╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[naive snow]

Ohh ids

Hmmm you could maybe print out the id list of every single thing the debug can spawn

[void obsidian]

but that's just basically the same thing as manually writing it. im hoping the prefetch builder would build one based on what the user's got active atm.

unless there's actually a thing that prints out all the item ids, in which case would make this a lot easier hahaha

actually, i just noticed something:
So the prefetch builder is working, but i cant help but notice it's also made changes to the actual Anomaly prefetch config

anomaly as in, the directory we're not supposed to touch because MO2's supposed to handle that

think it's getting the error because of this?
i thought running the application through MO2 would only let it write the virtual one, but it's also writing to the actual anomaly (dir) one.

[naive snow]

You still need the actual anomaly files ones, or is your Prefetcher only meant to be added on top?

[void obsidian]

I've decided to not add it as a mod but as an application you can run if you want your current stuff prefetched. Then run the game

made some progress, got to the main menu, so i must be doing something right..

[naive snow]

Now check the memory your exe takes when you run a game in your task manager

We're at 14 gigs or something atm

[shell grail]

I have OCD and I need fps counter pls

[static nebula]

If you have reshade there's one in the settings

[slow bolt]

Riva tuner mandatory app

[random fulcrum]

rs_stats 1

[shell grail]

but Grok removed reshade

[slow bolt]

[shell grail]

i just want fps

[random fulcrum]

oh no!

[open oasis]

@naive snow let's say that in theory i would be willing to modify every weapon sprite to have a magless variant to be used in conjunction with Mags Redux, what would actually be required of me to apply the magless sprite version to a magless gun?

if that's even possible?

[naive snow]

Don't think, there's no way really to specify if the weapon is loaded with an empty mag or simply if the mag is loaded but empty

[open oasis]

i'm not trying to make distinctions between empty mags or filled mags

but between whether there's a mag in a gun or not or not at all

like the current sprite becomes the mag version and the non-mag version that i add becomes a copy of the weapon like it happens with scopes

i think

[naive snow]

Yeah but what I'm saying is the game doesn't know either if you don't have a mag or if you have a mat but zero bullets in it. It's the same to the engine

[open oasis]

why would it need to make that distinction

if i right click a gun and there's no "eject mag" option then there is no mag

if that is possible then surely making that sprite distinction would be possible?

if no eject option then display the magless version

[naive snow]

Hmm I guess the gun does know if you have one or not

Yeah it would be possible I guess. Just a hecking lot of work with all the different icons

[open oasis]

if i make the icons would you be able to help me with this?

[naive snow]

I don't know how to properly code for shit, sorry

You could ask the guys from mags redux if they have a discord

[open oasis]

like the way i imagine it going is another atlas is created for empty guns, and then a script checks for whether the gun is empty or not through that context menu with "eject magazine", and then if it's empty it's converted to the magless copy of the sprite

[naive snow]

Dunno either about doubling the memory footprint of all icons tho

[open oasis]

@simple scaffold would something like this be possible if i were to create an entire .dds of magless guns?

[open oasis]

that would just be an additional atlas

like so many mods provide one already

[naive snow]

Don't forget that not all guns are in the primary atlas, you have multiple atlas

[open oasis]

i can start with the primary one to see how it works

i just need reassurance that it's possible and someone would help me with the syntax part since i also don't know how to code lol

[fringe frigate]

https://discord.com/channels/833709559067443230/855105536081264660
they be chillin in EFP

[open oasis]

cant load this unfortunately

what are they saying @fringe frigate

[fringe frigate]

wym, you cant join EFP discord?

[open oasis]

the preview doesn't display any messages

[slow bolt]

because arti lives in EFP discord

[open oasis]

i'm not joining an entire discord just for that lol

wait arti?

didnt ravenascendant make the mod

[fringe frigate]

join and find out

[open oasis]

i don't play EFP

[fringe frigate]

ok

[naive snow]

Why not? Do you want that mod or not?

[open oasis]

not high priority as i have other projects going on atm just thought it'd be a fun idea to toy around with here, also i recall someone else asking

if there's interest they can reply to me in here

i pinged ravenascendant who i assumed to be the author of the mod

i'm not joining a discord of a game i don't play to ask a single question

if they "live" there that's on them as far as i'm concerned lol

[void obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-arise-dog-pooch-car-window-gif-19510325

[void obsidian]

Need a bit of help understanding MO2's virtualization. I'm trying to build a prefetcher builder that you're supposed to run using MO2 (hopefully giving it access to the virtual version of the anomaly folder) to compile all the model paths that addons.. add onto the game for prefetching.

It's currently working and writes a prefetcher file, but i have the assumption that it's compiling paths from the untouched anomaly folder instead of the virtualized one. Any help?

I'm running the damn thing with MO2 but i think im missing something?

I narrowed down the prefetchbuilder to only include paths for actors, monsters, and dynamics
I couldnt launch the game but with this i made it to the main menu, but crashes on load of a save file/game

[slow bolt]

We already have that

PFGen

It does exactly that

[regal bolt]

Please add try catch to your mods

[slow bolt]

No

[grave notch]

is there a reason why none of the gamma gun models have flashlight attachments? (or am i just wrong about that?)

[slow bolt]

Flashlight attachments dont exist

[grave notch]

"But someone did make working flashlights on weapons with the Gunslinger mod on Call of Pripyat"
https://youtu.be/sqlgPiQBx6I
someone mentioned this? maybe its too different but?

[slow bolt]

Bruh

Anomaly has no working flashlights

Show me other modpack that has them that isn't gunslinger

[surreal gust]

Bro these are engine features. Not some cheap lua code. If you really want this then port it yourself

Most gunslinger mods for Anomaly are just animation ports

And never the features themselves

[grave notch]

okay thanks for the explanation was just wondering

[void obsidian]

oh dear, ive been trying to reinvent the wheel

Where can i find PFGen?

[slow bolt]

#1035807043933720576

[void obsidian]

thanks

[regal bolt]

I wonder if programming a better AI for Anomaly would be hard on a scale of 1 to 10 (By better I mean not taking position where you are and actively circling around you while running instead of running through you, taking actual defensive positions, being able to freely move around the maps based on the terrain avaliable to the player and writing a few scripts like artifact hunting if passing by an anomaly field or sneaking up on a mutants lair. Squads of stalkers wandering the zone at random on not preset paths, nighttime adventurers would sneak around instead of just blowing their flashlights in the open (even most rookies know not to do that) and making them basically more terrain friendly)

[regal bolt]

I mean. We already have the "Anti AWOL" Code in the game. Isn't it possible to invert it's function to make companions not being able to move closer to you than 5m?

And making the entirety of the flat and slightly curved terrain accesible for their movement instead of a few set spots that show up when you press num3

And maybe scripting a more active Alife to not make the zone feel as desolated as it is now. Literally pulling a list of lines of code to basically mimic some scripted events from the base games like the defense of the loners from a bandit attack at the car park all the way to proper full bliwn assaults of Pripyat like in CoP

Make loners and other factions move up north more and actually message for backup also when you're in vincinity and make these fights last instead of killing everyone before you even get there by literally putting NPCs in scripted positions like CS CNPP assault where they just shot into the void or by making the NPCs unkillable unless you enter a certain distance from them (taking active action), or some time passes (leaving them to their fate)

[random fulcrum]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/interactive-pda-01

[vale knot]

love this addon

[random fulcrum]

also why not just look into it yourself

like

[vale knot]

the getting paid to help people out its nice

[random fulcrum]

you have all these great ideas

why not bring them to life yourself

[regal bolt]

I use that mod already, thing is I don't wanna feel like the main character, but more like a member of a group. It would give it more of the OGs style of just being in the right place at the right time instead of being the leader of an assault squad

[random fulcrum]

how the fuck does helping a guy that sends a sos signal on the pda makes you feel like the main character

whatever

https://tenor.com/view/boar-good-evening-gif-24254135

[regal bolt]

Because I can't code and I am unable to learn it on my own, as well as I fear for breaking my game more than it already is. Basically I am unqualified, even if I wanted to be

[random fulcrum]

jesus what a mindset

it's not like

everyone

that mods the game learned to do so because they wanted stuff changed

everyone

[regal bolt]

That never happens in the north like in pripyat or outskirts, as there never are squads of any factions there besides bounty squads, monolith and sin, and the one squad of loners and mercs never move out

[random fulcrum]

then tune your zcp numbers

[regal bolt]

Problem is I cannot learn something as complex as a programming language on my own. I can learn cool, short and interesting facts like that singularity is an epicentre of a black hole, but not much more sadly. I am physically uncapable of that

[random fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nawh-no-way-fr-gif-22615915

[regal bolt]

I am literally too stupid to do that. You satisfied yet?

I wouldn't even know where to begin

[random fulcrum]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/index.html

google maybe

[regal bolt]

don't die Seeing this as the end of the first page doesn't spark up optimism

But I'll see what I'll get out of it

[wet grail]

what

lua is legit straight forward to learn

you have to be legit a smooth brain if you cant learn it by yourself and some youtube videos

[vale knot]

you can prolly get a pretty cheap course

[wet grail]

all i see are excuses

[vale knot]

i got a course for python ive been sitting on for over a year

[wet grail]

me with my modeling course back from 2020

watched 2 classes and never opened it again

[vale knot]

i dont want programming to be my job so i never bothered

[regal bolt]

Did you learn it?

[vale knot]

it was free doe

[wet grail]

enough to do what i wanted with my modlist yeah

[regal bolt]

kay

[naive snow]

I did full thousand line python script with chatpgt's help. Learning to code is easier than ever. It's wonky and hard coded to hell, but it does what I want it to do

[vale knot]

my roomate is a python tutor

i always got help if i need it

[ebon ginkgo]

Anyone happen to know which script controls music playback?

[stuck merlin]

anybody knows if the black market mod is save to deactivate ?

[obsidian void]

AFAIK it should be fine. It will take some time in game for the trader inventories to refresh

[stuck merlin]

ahhh alrifght thank you .)

[coral mulch]

Hey so does anyone know what would be changing the mouse sensitivity between weapons in a Stalker Mod? I'm trying to play the new True Stalker mod but this is really bothering me. Not sure where to go for answers so I'm hoping someone here might know. Sorry if its off topic.

[steady apex]

It's a feature of og games

Handling of the guns affect sensitivity

[open oasis]

i don't think you can fault someone for saying they might not have the time or capabilities to learn programming themselves, but the way i interpret this channel's function is also to talk about making mods rather than suggesting them so it has to be either making the mod yourself or not asking here

just my 2 cents, i also don't wish to learn syntax yet i read the scripts and change values sometimes, it's not black and white like that

you can have an interesting idea and not be able to fully realize it yourself, this is a thing that happened all across history lol

[fair flax]

can someone help with this mod?

its a mod that adds a new faction into the game

[coral mulch]

of the og stalker games? because i played through the ABR mod and didn't have this issue. It's unfortunate bc it's very difficult for me to adjust to.

[steady apex]

Yes

[soft burrow]

Is there any list I can copy or reference of NPCs whose bodies don't despawn?

I want to automatically leave trash in dead bodies but exclude the ones that don't despawn

Or even better than a list, if I can check if a body is set to eventually despawn?

[random fulcrum]

story ids

or important npcs

both are the same thing really

mobs that spawn during certain quests are also story related

think cnpp and scorcher

but not the entirety of mortal sin

[dusky magnet]

I'm kinda losing my mind, the latest update broke something with how my mod is having its mod_system ltx file loaded and now it won't load the dialog IDs for Grok and Darkasleif's armor exchange, so you just get a fatal error when talking to faction leaders.

Specifically #1187602255445250128 message

[dusky magnet]

Nvm I finally figured it out, I needed to change how I wrote my DLTX file to add my dialog to the list of dialog files rather than try to overwrite it again. It's weird how that didn't break until the update

[simple scaffold]

Other way around. Default icon is magles and the mag is added as a layer like scopes are.

[open oasis]

would you agree to implement this if i provided you with an atlas of magless guns?

like i genuinely don't know how difficult it would be since i don't really know syntax so if it's too much hassle do let me know

[soft burrow]

@undone lily hey I updated/fixed my mods that are included in gamma
#1138977050556895364 message
#1134322406199140483 message
GTF now has an easily expandable list of npc section names for whenever someone finds an npc without task completion dialogue.
IPF wasn't working on guns with scopes/modkits attached, fixed that too.
wish you happy christmas

[undone lily]

Thanks will update shortly, I did another mistake for sss19.0 and atmospherics

[steady venture]

how is bloodsucker transparency/invisibility handled, it is extra texture, or how? because afaik it is not fully transparent, more like transparent and refracting light differently

oh nvm, seems like it is particles

[soft burrow]

I think AlphaLion's balanced mutants mod managed to change their invisibility trigger distance if you are interested in that

[steady venture]

Yeah, I was looking for the particles, so now I am trying to get familiar with Particle editor in SDK 0.7 and it is somewhat frustrating

[steady venture]

also, would you know, if there is a way to import .xr to blender?

[slow bolt]

.xr aint a model

[celest forge]

Ain't .xr files particles

[shadow cave]

42

[steady venture]

Yeah, particles

Particle.xr

[summer burrow]

We need scopes for the chimera hunter, I NEED to be sniping mfs again like when the toz sniper was around with barrikada

[obsidian void]

@steady apex I made a couple edits to your keep crafting window open script and now crafting correctly uses the tool's "degradation_factor" parameter as defined in the .ltx. (before it would simply remove 20% durability) You can just have this. It also correctly uses this value for disassembly. It still returns a default 0.2 value if it does not find the parameter, to prevent a crash.

This also means there is no reason whatsoever to grab the "degrade_value" from the item_repair.script

[opal pilot]

Hello. Is there a way to customize inventory weapon context menu? I want to get rid of favorite, and other shit and just keep disassemble, field strip, etc. to reduce clutter and prevent accidentally clicking the wrong thing. Much thanks.

[soft burrow]

take a look at custom_functor_autoinject.script
I believe the "mark favorite/junk" option is from Sorting Plus, so you'd have to find the name of its functors in its script files.
"favorite parts" is from my mod Indirect Parts Favoriter, you can just disable that one in MO2 to remove it form the context menu

[opal pilot]

thanks! will have a look, i had previously searched all files related to WPO but couldn't find the associated lines of code. is there a way to add "field strip all" above field strip dropdown menu itself, bypassing the dropdown menu essentially, when you just want to take everything?

[soft burrow]

yes it's possible, custom_functor_autoinject.script has instructions for that too

[opal pilot]

i looked at the file, can't see any lines with field strip , favorites, etc. just general code that i don't understand.

[forest sluice]

Is it possible to print to a log file? The console gets written into so much, i have trouble seeing my log prints.

[wary forge]

does anyone have a mod to repostition weapons?

[open oasis]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1118909693813862492

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1119571276491661312

[dark leaf]

Does anyone know if there is a working mod to have mouse5 toggle the free zoom, and not require a hold? There was a mod for this in the past, but changes that Grok has made to this update cause it to not function anymore. #1158305681644998716 message I don't know very much at all about modding and scripts. I tried to look into the files but I really don't know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated.

[worn fiber]

I noticed that some weapons have additional recoil effects besides the recoil from weapon file and Enhanced Recoil. Does anybody knows where these extra recoil effects come from? Good example would be the w_scar_siber.ltx.

[fair inlet]

could be camera or "model" animation

.anm and .omf respectively

[worn fiber]

In case if w_scar_siber.ltx it's like a 2 frame crosshair jump.

[fair inlet]

I'm not knowledgeable on how to edit them, but you can definitely remove them completely via config. Camera animation can also be replaced

[worn fiber]

Is it referenced in w_scar_siber.ltx?

[fair inlet]

yes, hud section, anm_shot/ anm_shot_aim parameters

or anm_shoot 🤔

[worn fiber]

Found it.
anm_shots = scar_hand_shoot, scar_shoot
Something inside "scar_hand_shoot" causes the crosshair to jump up and down. Now I need to figure out what to do with this becasue I can't just delete it.

[fair inlet]

seems like camera anim, you can replace it with blank

though that would affect all weapons using this anim obviously

[worn fiber]

You mean like an empty file?

[fair inlet]

yes you can find one in mo2, it's named empty.
Or maybe you can just delete it, I didn't try

[worn fiber]

Deleting it worked. It was BAS camera effects.

[tight osprey]

Has anyone already made an addon that restores, fixes or balances removed weapons? Like the SVT, Hera, L96, etc.

[naive snow]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1176951529157173349

Just check on the #1035807043933720576

[open oasis]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1184536402843668490

although despite playing for about 10 hours with this mod on i was still not able to find the guns added back, probably because there are so many weapons in the game already (i have some additional weapon mods)

[tight osprey]

Aye, thanks!

[reef dove]

Will simply deleting reaction_joke_8.ogg from Better Merc Voices cause any issues? Never did any audio modding and the configs only reference the folders, so unsure how it is all handled. Or would I need to renumber all the voicelines?

[sacred token]

Or replace it with an empty sound. Would probably the safest and easiest way

[reef dove]

Sure. But that's not a "real" solution. Though that is what I've done, for now.

[sacred token]

You probably need to search the scripts and find the file containing the string "reaction_joke_". Should be easy enough if you already know which addon adds this sound file. If you can send me the script file I can tell you what exactly you can do

[reef dove]

There is no script, that's the thing. Config references the folder, so base Anomaly handles the rest. I want to avoid changing default scripts if I can, especially with something so minor

[pale rivet]

Hi, what git clone is the new launcher using?

[sacred token]

Ahh, I though the sound file is from an addon. Unfortunately I am currently away from my modding setup. I can help you tomorrow if you didn't figure it out until then

[reef dove]

It is from an addon, but I'm guessing the base game uses the same names. Or it cycles through all files in the defined folder

[naive snow]

I need to test something with foliage, is there a way to start in a map like Fake Start (with F2) but other maps?

[slow bolt]

You can go to swamps from the fake start

[naive snow]

How?

[slow bolt]

Honestly, i keep stumbling into there by accident

Its behind one of the pillars. You just get instant level transition there

[naive dew]

I want to override a function, namely IsSpecialNPC in dynamic_news_manager script. However, the function is within the class DynamicNewsManager. Do I override using dynamic_news_manager.IsSpecialNPC or DynamicNewsManager.IsSpecialNPC ?

[steady apex]

dynamic_news_manager.DynamicNewsManager.IsSpecialNPC

[naive dew]

ah gotcha, thanks!

also what's the difference with directly monkey patching the function vs putting it in on_game_start? I see both being used

[steady apex]

The order of patching, on game start is later

If you really need the patch to be later then use on game start

[naive dew]

I see, thank you demonized sensei

[naive dew]

oh looks like I have to add self as the first param too

[tight osprey]

Wasn't there an add-on that replaced the crappy Misery knife models with higher quality ones?

[topaz stirrup]

Hello, I would like to modify the pka scope so that it is no longer pip, as it is the only attractive alternative to the acog on the ak guns. Which file should I update to make this happen?

[vale knot]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/dead-air-knives

this one maybe?

ah it replaces the configs

and will go back to vanilla animations

as usual in stalker modding its never that simple

[random fulcrum]

simply dltx it to only replace the visual

[lost jay]

stlaker stories

[vale knot]

would that work? idk i kinda assumed the way knife anims worked like weapon anims. tied to the model

[random fulcrum]

maybe then rerig

rerigging a model to work with other anims is braindead easy

[vale knot]

i never tried it but im sure i can

[mighty apex]

Hi everyone! I need some help. I'm trying to make a custom npc, at least spawn him for now, without any quests or dialogs. I followed anomaly modding book and used duty expansion mod as a reference. The game crashes every time i'm trying to spawn him. I don't know what i'm doing wrong, i don't use any custom assets.

[mighty apex]

P.s. i also aded name strings to both eng and ru files st_characters. And also added dialogs_seryoga, npc_profile_seryoga and character_desc_seryoga to system.ltx as the guide says.

[hexed cosmos]

quick question does a Lee-Enfield rifle mod exist for gamma?

[sacred token]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/dltx-lee-enfield-from-taz But it looks outdated

[simple scaffold]

It's not hard, redux already includes a script for drawing arbitrary icon layers. But I don't have a working computer right now and even it I did I'm not personally that interested in this idea.

[open oasis]

understood, thank you for your time

[surreal gust]

it will replace it with the one from vanilla abobali

thats if one already exists for abobali

[open oasis]

man was looking for an excuse to butcher the name of the game twice 💀

[celest forge]

#1100689401966755870 message

[stone ingot]

really minor question but wondering if there's a simple way to remove the yellow/white objective arrow on the minimap by replacing with a blank texture

[spare gale]

Is there a simple way to remove the fuel requirments for lamps in the hideout furniture mod? Im sick of having to fill up all the lamps i have and just want them on perminently

[reef dove]

Not entirely sure, but from a quick look it seems like you can change it in GAMMA\mods\SixSloth's & Veerserif's Hideout Furnitures 2.2.1 GAMMA patch\gamedata\configs\items\items\items_hf_nomad_lights.ltx

[naive dew]

anyone know where item usage or crafting sound effects are configured?

[naive dew]

ok, I kinda sorta found it

now I'm stumped on actor_effects settings, what do the numbers correspond to? For example: [container_tool_af_aam_dummy] 0 = actor_effects.use_weapon(0) ; 1 = xr_effects.disable_ui_inventory(db.actor, nil) 2 = xr_effects.disable_ui_lite_with_imput(db.actor, nil) ; 378 = actor_effects.use_helmet(0) ; 379 = xr_effects.disable_nv(db.actor, nil) 550 = level.add_cam_effector('camera_effects\\item_use.anm', 8053, false,'') 1460 = xr_effects.play_inv_aam_close() 2351 = xr_effects.enable_ui_lite(db.actor, nil) ; 5150 = actor_effects.use_helmet(1) 2750 = xr_effects.enable_imput(db.actor, nil) 2751 = actor_effects.use_weapon(1)

[spare gale]

Thanks, i'll have a look through the config 🙂 was not sure where i should be looking for it

[reef dove]

Try changing "fuel_duration". The psi-light is set at 99999, so just do the same for the others. You still have to fuel them once, I suppose. But should be the easiest solution from what I can see

[spare gale]

Looks like they have a power consumption and a fuel duration setting so i'll have a look

ah 😄 we looked at the same time.

Yeah i'll try changing the duration and see what happens. Thanks!

[spare gale]

Yep that did it! thanks a lot

[hardy hound]

works anyway

[vale knot]

[elfin mason]

Has anyone made a mod to make sawn of shotguns work in the melee slot?

[random fulcrum]

almost all orange people has done so once before

[elfin mason]

Would love a link if one exists

[random fulcrum]

man lives in an alternate timeline where search bars weren't invented

[lethal garden]

Could anyone give me advice on how to edit and save weapon stats? I can imagine its somewhat similar to editting hud values of weapons using Draggable Hud Editor. Im editing some helmet icons, and wanted to add ballistic resistance since I added a helmet to its icon.

[rose glacier]

This might be a bit far fetched but il try, Does anyone know if there is a mod for GAMMA that lets me adjust walking speed like in tarkov? (Using mouse wheel up and down to change movement speed)

[slow bolt]

No

That is incredibly specific and also useless

[rose glacier]

aight thanks

[hearty yarrow]

grokks gotta go fast in changeable in the mod confing menu

[tacit ginkgo]

Hi, anyone knows what do?

[frank flicker]

Do you have 340- Black market mod, and any weapon mod (UGP) ?

[tacit ginkgo]

UGP?

[frank flicker]

ultimate gun pack

[tacit ginkgo]

No

[frank flicker]

And black market mod ?

[tacit ginkgo]

Yes

Sorry, I missed the "and" in your question

All works if Black Marked off but I like it

[frank flicker]

hmm, if i see correctly you are using mags (weapon mgazines) mod? Try look via GAMMA launcher for those files you will even see in what mod they are, you can use a filter in right corner

[tacit ginkgo]

I'm not that's the thing

[frank flicker]

but it seems that you have, mags folder in your game, try find it (blackmarket_mags.ltx) via launcher and delete it (just make backup for it, for sure)

and are you sure that you dont have any of these mods ?

[tacit ginkgo]

Oh, I have the ones you have enabled, not the other two

[tacit ginkgo]

If I delete, I get error that it doesn't exist

[frank flicker]

Well dunno then , only try reninstall whole gamma

[tacit ginkgo]

Yeah nah, I'll play the gamma economy then, but thank you

[grizzled gorge]

Traders overhaul activated ?

[tacit ginkgo]

Yes

[grizzled gorge]

Bm is not compatible with traders overhaul and works on top of gamma economy

[simple scaffold]

start like this: edit the gun icons to have no mags attached. make a new icon file with the magazines in: textures/ui/ui_icon_klip_mag_icons.dds. (i'd try and do this so that one magazine icon can be used for several guns, but you don't have to.)

make a new item ltx named w__mag_icons.ltx

in that make a bunch of sections that look like.:

[tch_mag_abakan]; all must start with tch_ or things will break.
icons_texture    = ui/ui_icon_klip_mag_icons.dds
inv_grid_x                                                = 0 ;based on the icon texture grid 
inv_grid_y                                              = 3 ;

then for testing add the mag icon to the weapon icon like scopes are by adding to the weapons actual section lines like this:

        1icon_layer                 = tch_mag_abakan
        1icon_layer_x               = 57
        1icon_layer_y               = 20

adjusting the x and y to get the mags in the correct location.

the new ltx file and the icon file would be used by the final addon.

the values 1icon_layer lines will be used by the script in another way but will be the same values.

the script would be fairly simple to set up. if you havn't found someone else to do it once you have all the art ask me again.

[open oasis]

alright, can't promise to succeed but i'll definitely try, i'll start working on the atlas, thanks 👍
i'll ping you if i get stuck or if i make any progress

[obsidian void]

Can anyone clue me in to how I can modify or set an .ltx value with an MCM menu? For example, I want to make the repair_min_condition parameter on tools configurable with a menu.

So far I haven't found a single mod example which can do this directly. For example, in the Configurable Item Cost Modifiers mod, demonized had to monkeypatch the on_get_item_cost function in order to inject the new costs:

function on_get_item_cost(kind, obj, profile, calculated_cost, ret) local obj_kind = get_kind_override(obj:section()) or SYS_GetParam(0, obj:section(), "kind", "") local old_cost = ret.new_cost or calculated_cost ret.new_cost = round(old_cost * (settings[obj_kind] or 1)) if settings.debug_mode then printf("item %s, kind %s, old cost %s, new cost %s", obj:section(), obj_kind, old_cost, ret.new_cost) end end

Can anyone shed some light on how I can do this for the repair condition minumums?

[obsidian void]

Okay. I figured out that the ltx parameter is retrieved in the function UIRepair:Reset in item_repair script. I have the function behaving as I want, but I need help to turn this into a monkeypatch. here is the code:

`function UIRepair:Reset(obj,section)
local ltxMinCond = ini_sys:r_float_ex(section,"repair_min_condition") or 0
local green_threshold = (tonumber(ui_mcm.get('dynamicrepairicons/green')) / 100)
local yellow_threshold = (tonumber(ui_mcm.get('dynamicrepairicons/yellow')) / 100)
local orange_threshold = (tonumber(ui_mcm.get('dynamicrepairicons/orange')) / 100)

local minRepairCond = ltxMinCond
if ltxMinCond >= 0.75 then
    minRepairCond = green_threshold
elseif ltxMinCond >= 0.50 then
    minRepairCond = yellow_threshold
elseif ltxMinCond >= 0.25 then
    minRepairCond = orange_threshold
end

self.section = section
self.obj = obj

-- Settings
self.repair_frame      = ini_sys:r_string_ex(section,"repair_ui") or "ui_itm_repair_1"
self.use_condition     = ini_sys:r_bool_ex(section,"use_condition") or false
self.min_condition     = minRepairCond`

How can I do this without overwriting the items_repair script? I'm no good with monkeypatching

[edgy tendon]

This might be a long shot: I tried to edit this in the config files of True Stalker (openxray), but it doens't work. I also tried applying it to the texture node, but no luck. The hud texture has a different name than usual I think (ui_actor_hud_wnd_ts.dds). Do you perhaps know where to look?

[naive dew]

where does printf print to? Console or logs? Trying to pinpoint something but can't see any print statements

[random fulcrum]

both

log is just a log of the console

[past barn]

Yeah it doesn't work for me either. Other parameters like position do apply so this config is what controls the minimap. Idk how could you change transparency of the actual map area then tbh. If you're looking for the compass texture then it's in gamedata/textures/ui/ui_actor_hud_wnd_ts.dds on the top left

[ebon ginkgo]

So I just tested it, and it looks like the max length for custom music tracks is 10 minutes. Anyone else find that out?

[simple scaffold]

The lowest effort monkey patch, only slightly more compatible than a direct script edit, but also sometimes the only option, is to replace the entire function from another script.

Copy your modified function into another script and add script_name. to the front of the function name.

In this case the line would look like function item_repair.UIRepair:Reset(obj, section)

This can break other monkey patches that may be on the same function. Adjusting script names can sometimes resolve this. Would need to test to find out.

You need your entire modified function in the new script. Not just that one line, that's just the only difference between it and the direct edit version of the function

[open oasis]

hey Raven since you're already online, work on the atlas is coming along nicely, if i understood correctly you'd want one atlas with no mags at all and one atlas with just the mags so that they can be layered on top of the magless gun kind of like an attachment? @simple scaffold

where will the existing with-mag weapons will be used?

[obsidian void]

wait so I can just drop the whole function in a script and that's it?

[simple scaffold]

With an identifier telling the game to put this function in the other scripts name space. Replacement monkey patches are very easy, if you are the only one. Its when you need co exist with other patches on that function that things get hard.

Start here

[obsidian void]

I'm pretty sure that "keep crafting window open" monkeypatches this function.

[simple scaffold]

They won't. You are basically changing the magazine into an attachment like a scope icon wise.

[obsidian void]

local ResetSuper = item_repair.UIRepair.Reset item_repair.UIRepair.Reset = function(self, obj, section) ResetSuper(self, obj, section) -- Set repair kit name, uses and icon, store uses -- Delay because of alife shenanigans when using multiuse items with -- heavy scripting like this CreateTimeEvent("totally_not_random_event" .. random_number(1, 1000000), "update_ui_delay" .. random_number(1, 1000000), 0.1, self.CollectValidItems, self, obj, section) --self:CollectValidItems(obj, section) -- printf("Calling override Reset") return true end

this is from keep crafting window open

[simple scaffold]

For this all you need to do is make sure your script runs first. For the most part scripts are run in alphabetical order. So if thier script name starts with a "z" start yours with an "y". If they are "b" make yours "a"

[obsidian void]

so something like this? `function on_game_start()
item_repair.UIRepair.Reset = UiRepair_Reset_Monkey
end

function UiRepair_Reset_Monkey(obj,section)`

[simple scaffold]

They are "wrapping" the function or doing a daisy chain patch.

They make a copy of the function that they call from their version after doing additional stuff.

As long as you replace the function first they will be copying yours not the orginal

[obsidian void]

and then of course the rest of the function after

[simple scaffold]

That might work, if you add self to the first spot in the parameters list.

It might not work depending on how other patches are written.

Patching in the ongamesrart function is delayed. Good of you need to let other patches happen first. Not good in your case.

Copy your function to a new empty script. Make the one change I described. That's all you need. No ongamestart or = some odd name.

I personally don't like using = assignment for monkey patches unless it is strictly necessary, I think it looks messy.

[obsidian void]

oh okay so I can just put the entire function UIRepair:Reset(obj,section) in a script and it will run. cool. I was just copying what someone else did

[simple scaffold]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y4IYgIpjkNcLkcr7EHpdVJovDQzTovbAIW0z5y7o6_M/edit?usp=sharing

I go into detail here

[obsidian void]

function UIRepair:Reset(self,obj,section)

but like this right

[simple scaffold]

It's part style. Demonized believes that the syntax with the = makes it more obvious that you are patching. I think it is messy looking. So depending on who ppl learned from they may don't one way or the other.

[simple scaffold]

Need the target script name with a dot infront of the function name

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[obsidian void]

ah of course function item_repair.UIRepair:Reset(self,obj,section)

[simple scaffold]

Yeah. Adding the script name there tells the game to modify that this function is being defined into the other script not yours. Replacing what is in the other script

So just make sure your script is alphabetical before the crafting window one and you should be set

[obsidian void]

uh oh, _g.script didn't like that

I know the function works when I overwrite item_repair.script

[simple scaffold]

Log will have full stack trace. Might explain

[obsidian void]

it was the self parameter. I removed it and it seems to be working

yep works like a charm now

[simple scaffold]

Self is needed if you change the : to a . Which is used with the = style of patching for reasons. Another reason I like the style I do, I can still use : and ignore the self parameter

The guide tries to cover that. At least the version I linked above. The one in the modding book is out of date

[obsidian void]

hell yeah now I need to apply this to other scripts I'm overwriting lol

Configurable tools

[simple scaffold]

That was why I wrote the guide. grok, fdda and something else were all trying to change actor_effects script. I wrote patches for those add-ons then wrote a guide because I didn't want to spend all my time on making compatibility monkey patches for other ppls stuff.

[obsidian void]

lolll

[simple scaffold]

Monkey patching was basically unheard of in add-ons before then (2021)

Monkey patching guide and MCM are a toss up for being the most influential things I have done. Probably MCM has had a bigger impact.

But not by as much as one might think.

You can actually monkey patch the base game options UI and get 90% of MCMs functionality (mostly because MCM is 90% a copy of the base game options script)

On the other hand without monkey patching and DLTX gamma would be impossible, maintaining the compatibility between all those add-ons would be a Herculean task.

[obsidian void]

yeah no kidding

hmm. trying to patch utjans item ui improvements:

` 1 : [Lua] ...y/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\z_item_icon_info_monkey.script(134) : Add_Parts_Bars

LUA error: ...y/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\z_item_icon_info_monkey.script:134: attempt to index global 'settings' (a nil value)

Check log for details

stack trace:`

I didn't change anything about the function so I must be missing something in the monkey script. It works in the overwrite

an now I got a global variable crash on the other script too.

`FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CScriptEngine::lua_pcall_failed
[error]File : E:\Github\xray-monolith\src\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
[error]Line : 257
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments :
1 : [Lua] d:/anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\ui_item_monkey.script(7) : base_build_desc_footer

LUA error: d:/anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\ui_item_monkey.script:7: attempt to call global 'refresh_strings' (a nil value)

Check log for details

stack trace:`

[edgy tendon]

Ok, thanks for replying. For now I'll just remove the minimap and artefact panel with position parameters, it'll be harder to find bodies but fuck it; I'd rather have more immersion.
Where can I find the lines for the hud clock so I can move it? Need to keep that unfortunately because there's no clock in the inventory section...

[simple scaffold]

Script global variables need to be addressed with the script_name. prefix in order for you to use them. Same with calling functions in the other script

Locals in the other script you can't touch. There are sometimes work arounds but they are bespoke and oftain very advanced Lua

[past barn]

I have no clue tbh. You could try the clock section in the minimap's config (it's on the bottom) but the note says it's not used to that probably won't work. My only suggestion is to ask Cheeki Breeki, he or someone else managed to move the clock and the status icons: https://youtu.be/KLMV3U02oMs?t=445

[edgy tendon]

haha, i just made one myself, looks a bit different than his. I actually watched that video but not that far in.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kftiu2naq2vzv5c/true_stalker_minimal_ui_v0.1.zip/file
also made this a couple days ago:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/d9divrkw3yhdei2/true_stalker_vanilla_sounds_v0.3.zip/file

[past barn]

Looks cool

[open oasis]

wow that looks fucking dope

[edgy tendon]

thanks

[reef dove]

What handles the animation for using medkits with exosuits?

[slow bolt]

FDDA with gunslinger addon

[bronze abyss]

Hi everyone!

I have a question.
How can I start making textures and models?
So do you guys have any really useful tutorials for this ?

[lean dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwTYYH5zLjo

[naive snow]

If you search in this channel for the keyword "Blender", I guided someone through the steps to properly setting up Blender through MO2, running the _unpack folder as a mod and setting up your environment overall

[vital dock]

is there a way to do something like nifbashing in bethesdas games, but for anomaly?

[simple scaffold]

Editing the model meshes? Blender see above comment

[wooden thistle]

Hello guys!

So, I downloaded a ready-made mod that changes the NO DATA portrait to Niko Belik. I went to the folder with textures, replaced Niko Belik in Photoshop with the DDS plugin with my own photo.
Saved, replaced, installed the mod.
When starting a new game, it gives an error that there is a discrepancy in the 426 line D:\x-raymonolith and so on.
I also noticed that when I try to save a photo in Photoshop in DDS format (with its own icon), Photoshop shifts the photo by several pixels.

How to solve this problem

[fringe mango]

@mystic solstice you're the beef from beef's nvg right? i saw your comment on the moddb page saying you're working on an update but won't do all the goals on the roadmap you listed in the nov 2021 update. is the dynamic tube control one of the goals you're working on?

[mystic solstice]

you mean to like flip up one side of duals so you can use detector at night?

[fringe mango]

yea, that's the way you described in the comment

[mystic solstice]

yeah, that is "easy" in a sense other than figuring out what to keybind it to - the functionality already exists to a degree as it can be adjusted in MCM settings (e.g. instead of dual dubes, you use say single right)]

[magic timber]

How did the text that determined a specific weapon_fov looked on the .txt ?? wasnt it "wpn_fov = 0.9 " or wpn_fov = 9.0 ?? (i used to change them values all the time before but now i cant remember)

[fringe mango]

awesome! couldn't it just be N + a modifier? shift + N for example

[mystic solstice]

making it a keybind is mostly just writing the script side to choose what goes where ... but then i'd like that to be configurable in MCM so people can choose what representation they want

mostly i just have no time to write shaders atm, although i've got some progress here and there for condition/procedurally generated cracks in the lenses and some improved autogating effect and so on (i don't have a ton of history on this gamma discord so if you look at it you'll see)

[mystic solstice]

not a bad idea - tbh given how MCM has made keybindings easier it's not too bad really because it can always be rebound

[fringe mango]

true, MCM wrapper is a godsend

[mystic solstice]

Raven is the god of LUA lol

[fringe mango]

anyways, very excited for the update! been wanting a way to use devices with night vision for so long

thanks for your work!

[steel willow]

I have a really simple question but it's stumping me, I'm literally just making my own loading screen text, I know where GAMMA keeps it, it's part of Gamma UI. I was modifying that just to see how it looked but notice in game it still loads the default Zone tips, which is odd.

Anyone got any idea? the file with them in it is entirely modified, not a single original bit of that text exists, so it must be getting called somwhere else.

[slow bolt]

Original anomaly files are still in there. You are modifying the mod files

[steel willow]

I would have assumed it would just overwrite them, is the thing, and it's specifcially the Gamma ones from GAMMA UI that are still loading

[slow bolt]

oh well if you know which ones are loading - modify them too

[steel willow]

That's just it, I have

[slow bolt]

It cant load something that doesnt exist

so you missed something

[steel willow]

I just cant find where else these would be, the GAMMA loading screen pulls from ui_st_loadscreen.xml in GAMMA UI, that files been entirely edited, yet they still show up, which is odd

[fringe mango]

what's the path of the file(s) you edited?

[steel willow]

Well, right now all I did was edit the direct xml in Gamma UI>Configs>Text>Eng>ui_st_loadscreen.xml

the plan was to eventually make my own mod to overwrite it, but that's where the text is, so I thought, might as well see if this works, can't see anywhere else those files would be, kept the original as a copy in case I broke anything.

Weird, even making my own mod, overwriting over GAMMA UI it resorts to the original file and textstring, it must be saved somewhere else as well, I just can't figure out where

oh might have found it, the "Gamma Massive Text Overhaul Project" also seems to have a loadscreen.xml

but its odd I'm overwriting that too, idk, I'll keep at it this shouldn't be so difficult

[slow bolt]

Well is your mod loaded after those two?

[steel willow]

loads before both of them

[slow bolt]

well, uh, there is your answer

Load your mod after both of them to overwrite

[steel willow]

I did that before and it crashed is the other thing, I'll get it, at least I know which two files it's interacting with now

[slow bolt]

Loading before does nothing as your files lose the conlict

[steel willow]

god of course it was me missing a </string> in the xml file

Ok, it loads but somewhere the game thinks they're are more text strings than I have, must be getting told somewhere else how many there is, worried that might be a base Anomaly thing and not so easy to fix

well it works, but the game is definitely being told to expect the normal 109 string ids, and if it doesnt get on of the ids I've made it blanks

https://i.imgur.com/MqsxJ4h.png

so the solution is find where that's called, or write 109 of my own goddamn loading screen tips

[simple scaffold]

loadscreen.script

[steel willow]

I mean I figured it was a script I just can't find it so I can replicate it, where is this normally?

[obsidian void]

it's packed in the vanilla anomaly files

[steel willow]

Damn, I thought that, went looking for ages could not find anything that seemed to call to it

I'm assuming it's in one of the games db0 files so I'll just work with that Raven dropped

[simple scaffold]

I figured you weren't looking in the unpacked files considering how obvious a name that is.

In the anomaly folder there is a tools folder. In it is a bat file that will decompress the db0 and make you a reference copy of all the configs and scripts. The one with all in its name will also decompress all the art assets, eats up a lot of he space tho.

[steel willow]

This is my first time really looking at any Stalker files. So I was just dipping my toe, good to know, I can work from there.

It is very much appreciated

and there it is, sick, I'm assuming I could add to the number of these I have for a while. My friend group want to add a ton and it's a fun little gag to add to their own games.

I don't see it being useful for anyone publicly, mind, it's all very meta

[simple scaffold]

Yeah. Also since it gives you the level name you could do level specific ones like one just for the bar: "how did the faction with a stick up it's ass end up sharing a base with a gambling den and the closest thing the zone has to a nightclub?"

[steel willow]

Oh see that's a really fun idea

Might work on that

I'd need to figure out how but now I know how to see these scripts I'm sure I can work it out

Right now the xml is just a series of strings in a table, so I'd probably need to do more than that, I can see it checks the level name but it's pretty late, I dont know if I have the energy to work that out just yet

[obsidian void]

Hey guys, I'm working on the problem of drag-n-drop crafting with multi-use items. the functions that handle drag-n-drop are in itms_manager.script. Here is my updated function so far.

At the moment, it actually works - multi-use items are now reduced by a single use when drag-dropped. The problem is the output item. If the output item is multi-use, it always spawns with ALL of it's uses. Obviously that's a problem because it can allow you to get more output than input.

I'm trying to set the uses of the output item but so far my attempts to call the set_remaining_uses function on it result in a crash due to returning a nil value

Here's an example of my last attempt to set the uses of the crafting product:

-- Combine basic items as usual for non-multi-use items or depleted multi-use items actor_effects.play_item_fx("item_combination") alife_create_item(sec_new, db.actor) local new_item = alife_create_item(sec_new, db.actor) if IsItem("multiuse", sec_new) then new_item:set_remaining_uses(1) -- Set the remaining uses to 1 for the new multi-use item end alife_release(obj_1) alife_release(obj_2) end end

But as I stated, this results in a crash which reports that the method set_remaining_uses is a nil value. I'm sure I'm missing something crucial to grabbing the object that is being created.

I suspect I need to grab something or change something in the item_combine function

item_combine = {} n = ini_craft:line_count("item_combination") for i=0,n-1 do result, id, value = ini_craft:r_line_ex("item_combination",i,"","") if id and value then local str = str_explode(id,":") if str[1] and str[2] and ini_sys:section_exist(str[1]) and ini_sys:section_exist(str[2]) and ini_sys:section_exist(value) then if (not item_combine[str[1]]) then item_combine[str[1]] = {} end item_combine[str[1]][str[2]] = value else printe("!ERROR item_combination | wrong section names") end end end

But I am at a loss. I think this is the last piece of the puzzle to make drag-n-drop crafting actually viable.

[steady apex]

Set remaining uses expects game object but you use it on server object

You need to create time event in which you get game object by id and then use your uses method

[open oasis]

@simple scaffold took me a few hours but the magless icons are more or less finished - from what i understood you now want an atlas of just the mags without the weapons, so that they can be pointed to as if they were attachments, however i don't really know how i'd get their position once i'd be done

oh this is not all of them there are custom mods that introduce their own atlases but this is just for experimentation, i'll do everything once i know this works

[simple scaffold]

Trial and error.

In theory you can take the relative cords of a point on the gun. (Meaning the 0,0 is the corner of the icon not the file) and subtract the relative cords of a point on the magazine that should line up with the point on the gun. The result should be the correct cords in the gun icon to place the corner of the mag icon to get an alignment.

Reality probably won't be that clean and some adjustments will be needed.

[open oasis]

so it'll have to be trial and error for literally hundreds of guns?

[vale knot]

Not to mention you'd have to add this new system for every new gun added

[obsidian void]

I am not really sure how to do that... And I guess there's not an argument in alife_create_item to create a certain number of uses for the item from the start? Would you be willing to write that portion of the code?

[open oasis]

i don't mind making magless versions for new weapons that come out as well as modded ones that i use but i'm definitely not making an entire sheet of mags just to have to fit them one by one manually

it is literally hundreds of guns lmfao

i thought there was a way to use a script to fit them kind of like what Burn did with his attachment fix, some mathematical equation

like i thought if i just left them in their original position they could be layered on top of the gun as if the mag was always there

[obsidian void]

The problem with that is different guns can share the same magazine type. So if you place a 5.54 mag where it would fit an ak74, it might not line up with the ak74u for example. Unless you create individual mag sheets for each gun

[open oasis]

that's what i intended to do but i didn't think i'd also have to manually place them on the grid

making a mag for each gun would be the same amount of work as making them all magless

which is about 3-4 hours of tinkering

[obsidian void]

Well assuming each gun has it's own mag sheet and the icons are the same size you should be able to align them the way RavenAscendant was saying

[open oasis]

i wouldn't know how to after physically creating the sheet

[obsidian void]

Right that involves script

[open oasis]

like okay now that i have a .dds file of all the mags how do i convert that to uhh

1icon_layer_x=1 1icon_layer_y=1 type of deal

[obsidian void]

Yeah dunno I've never messed with the attachment layers sorry lol

[open oasis]

and i'm not saying i do but i just want to figure this out beforehand so i don't waste my time

Burn is saying i should be able to keep the mags in place and then use the same coordinates as on that weapon

the plan was to have this be on one sheet:

then this on the other:

and like align them, but for each gun

[obsidian void]

Yeah makes sense

[open oasis]

i'm hoping that is possible, Burn is telling me it is

[obsidian void]

Is this for mags redux?

[open oasis]

and the script where that is actually made an attachment will be made by Raven hopefully (if he's satisfied with my work lol)

[open oasis]

yep

[obsidian void]

The reasoning is sensible, this would be handled differently from other attachments since those use the single icon and then get placed on the weapon with script

Of course as we said earlier each weapon will need it's own set of mags icons

[open oasis]

from what i understood the current mag weapons will be replaced with the magless version completely, the one i finished making, and then with Mags Redux equipping one with a mag will change it to the mag version with the mag "attachment" on top

[open oasis]

that's already acceptable

i'm just going to go over each gun again and remove the body

like i did with removing the mags previously

this is just for the base weapons so far i have not worked on the extras like the SR-25 or ASh-12

i just want to know it works before i continue working on the stray sheets

gonna look something like this

hopefully i don't mess up too bad with the spacing and whatnot

[steady apex]

CreateTimeEvent('newitemevent', time_global(), 0, function()
local obj = level.object_by_id(s.id)
if obj then
 -- your code here
 return true
end
end)

[obsidian void]

You are a saint. I will try to implement this when I get back home

[simple scaffold]

You can probably pack them in tighter. Probably into a single 50x50 cell for each.

#805830708526055474 message

The icon editor tool helps

[reef dove]

So unless my brain is totally melted; timers are defined in milliseconds, correct?

[open oasis]

i don't have access to this link, if i am to change the way the icons are layered i'd definitely need your help pointing the weapons to their new mag locations

[simple scaffold]

Depends. Some are defined in in-game seconds. Which is affected by time factor. Time factor is generally 6 meaning 6 in-game seconds to rl seconds.

[open oasis]

thought i'd make this simple so as to not be so dependent on you

[slow bolt]

Join abobale discord

[simple scaffold]

The ease might be worth the risk space. At least during version 0

[open oasis]

didn't quite catch that, is it okay to continue working on the sheet with the current spacing? english is not my first language

i could bunch them up to save memory and space but then i'd have to point each weapon to its new mag location

which is a massive hassle

from what i gather currently there's no need to do that

since the mags are in their old weapon space

[reef dove]

Right. Well, milliseconds seem to check out in this case at least. Changing the stupid Brain Scorcher timer for my next playthrough; I hate being basically forced to sprint through it

[simple scaffold]

Do it your way. Makes a bunch of the math easier in the code later as well.

[open oasis]

ah okay great

[simple scaffold]

Make one a bass and one a xylophone and fight a controller?

[regal bolt]

@fathom wagon Hey! Got a quick question. Do you think it would be possible to make a mod like your "artifacts heal limbs" for BHS, but with Suit life support systems?

[simple scaffold]

That would depend entirely on if the suit thing is setup to let other mods adjust it's values.

It would be possible to force it even if it wasn't set up to make it easy.

It possible to make a mod that changes almost anything about another mod.

[regal bolt]

Okay. Thank you

[fathom wagon]

Those are the upgrades to the suits, correct?

You could add it if you can find the value on the suit and try to convert it to a value. Could make a value in the table in my mod that is just made for armor values. Set to 0, and actively check your armor as you equip items to then set the value accordingly.

I won't be able to work on any coding for a week, so I can't work on it just yet.

I thought of doing it back when I finished the final version, but went against it as I only wanted artefacts to do it as they are anomalous. Gives you more freedom in how they can act within the game's story limits.

[obsidian void]

https://tenor.com/view/good-news-gif-20210278

We fixed drag n drop crafting 🙂

The cigarette and vodka recipe is simply to test 2 multi-use items

The system now handles multiuse items correctly. Theoretically we could also expand the item_combine code so that recipes can require a certain number of uses, or perhaps even require tools. This will open the door for way more use of the drag-n-drop crafting system!

[regal bolt]

Understandable. That would be cool to have anyways.

[slow bolt]

oh god damn

now that is something

[obsidian void]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-its-alive-ace-ventura-pet-detective-gif-3447515

[slow bolt]

it pulls from the crafting recipes file?

[obsidian void]

yep the [item_combination] section

[slow bolt]

okay this is epic

[obsidian void]

The code balooned from this:

`function dropdrop_ArtyContainer(obj_1, obj_2, sec_1, sec_2) -- Put artefact in container
local cont = sec_2
local arty = sec_1
if ini_sys:section_exist(arty .. "_" .. cont) then
local cond = obj_1 and obj_1:condition()

    actor_effects.play_item_fx("container_tool_" .. cont .. "_dummy")
    
    alife_create_item(arty .. "_" .. cont, db.actor, { cond = cond } )
    alife_release(obj_1)
    alife_release(obj_2)
end

end`

to this:

[slow bolt]

I assume this would work for every craft(with 2 items at most)?

[obsidian void]

yep the change happened in the script so anything defined under the [item_combination] section in craft.ltx can work. for example, my test combo is

cigarettes:vodka = cigarettes_russian

as you saw I was also able to combine a splint with aluminized fabric to make a single use of the ALU splint

splint:prt_o_fabric(4 or whatever) = alu_splint

[slow bolt]

this can be a mod of its own

[obsidian void]

really it's just a bugfix

the drag-n-drop crafting was there already but it never accounted for multiuse items

[slow bolt]

huh

[obsidian void]

item_combine = {} n = ini_craft:line_count("item_combination") for i=0,n-1 do result, id, value = ini_craft:r_line_ex("item_combination",i,"","") if id and value then local str = str_explode(id,":") if str[1] and str[2] and ini_sys:section_exist(str[1]) and ini_sys:section_exist(str[2]) and ini_sys:section_exist(value) then if (not item_combine[str[1]]) then item_combine[str[1]] = {} end item_combine[str[1]][str[2]] = value else printe("!ERROR item_combination | wrong section names") end end end

I believe this is the function responsible for creating the parameters for the [item_combination] section

This is where it could theoretically be expanded to accept new definitions in the ltx, for example, a number of uses perhaps, or a tool.

I'm picturing something like

vodka,2:cloth,1 = bandage

Not that I really feel like working on this any more. At least it's in a functional state

[slow bolt]

the tool thing could work by simply iterating every item you have and comparing the section name to the tool section name

[obsidian void]

yep exactly

there are also right-click crafting scripts out there, like this one: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1096798855133143100

which are also cool but of course that bloats the right click menu

I was able to modify the lockpick crafting script so it requires a rasp and a multitool, uses 2 scrap, and then chips durability off both the tools

[slow bolt]

okay, that one i was looking for. Wanted to add right click menu to heal specific limbs and stuff

[obsidian void]

mmm this might help. At least it can show you how to add a new functor

would be really cool with that knife surgery mechanic we talked about

[slow bolt]

yep

exactly the thing it would use too

since all it needs is to run a script on clicking the option

[obsidian void]

now to see if I can monkey-patch-ize this lol

annnd it crashed. Go figure

yay it works

[slow bolt]

At this point might as well co-develop the mod lmao

you got ahead of me in scripting the FUN features

[obsidian void]

I also made field cutlery do sugery LOL

[slow bolt]

yep, see

[obsidian void]

weirdest thing is how the tool requirement doesn't work on the swiss knife

I still can't quite wrap my head around that. Maybe I need to use a different dltx syntax

or maybe the item class is an issue? idk

[slow bolt]

well it should be used with the right-click. i assume that would get passed the ID or the object itself that you can manipulate in the script

[obsidian void]

yes that would be better

[slow bolt]

and the durability decrease can be lifted from ADB since it does that

[obsidian void]

double clicking the knife and accidentally doing surgery is no bueno

[forest sluice]

Is the artifact crafting icon grid also considered a "bag"? What is it's name?

[magic timber]

Out of curiosity, from 1 to 10 how complicated is it to make guns compatible with "BaS sights n scopes" ?

[zenith fjord]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone would know if there's something I can do about excessive spawn in the red forest. The first time I went through I had to fight the entire Sin faction to get passage, then the next time it was about 15 sin+monolith

[obsidian void]

Hey you! Not saying I don't appreciate your help (your code DID work) but...

local box_size = IsItem("ammo",item_reward) local max_uses = IsItem("multiuse",item_reward) local uses = max_uses and (max_uses >= 2) and 2 or 1 if uses then amount = math.random(1,uses) end alife_create_item(item_reward, db.actor, {uses = amount , ammo = box_size})

It does appear that alife_create_item can use an argument to create an item with a certain number of uses.

Silly goose

Though that is my fault for not investingating other instances of the function to make sure first

[obsidian void]

`function alife_create_item(section, obj, t)
--[[
section: [string] (required)
item section

obj: [object/table] (required)
    owner of the item we want to spawn. can be a game or server object
    it can be a table {pos,lvl_id,game_id,id} for custom spawn in the Zone

t: [table] (optional)
    item property table, can be used to process spawned item, like spawning multiuse item with specific uses for example.`

[naive snow]

The mine is their base in red forest so you're bound to draw attention if you don't sneak through

[naive snow]

Not that hard, but you do have to be somewhat decent and properly setup with blender to generate the new .ogf (models) required. Then create the right hud reposition

[magic timber]

so blender + hud reposition, ok thank you boss

[naive snow]

To my knowledge yeah. You can easily rip the scopes from other guns and just transfer them to the right bone in the weapon you want. Just make sure that textures and materials are all properly set up in your xray:material custom properties. Afterward it's the HUD positionning to line up the scope sight with the ADS aiming (the debug menu is really useful for editing HUD stuff)

[naive snow]

I've helped out someone setup their Blender Xray addon properly a couple of weeks ago if you look in this channel with the search from me with the keyword blender. (It involves setting up a bunch of paths properly and some setup with MO2)

[obsidian void]

can anyone tell me the correct method to check the player's inventory for an item (a specific amount of an item)

well get_inventory would just make too much sense

[obsidian void]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-gif-5272156

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-gif-10618052

So I said I wasn't gonna but I just successfully expanded the capabilites of drag-n-drop crafting.

Not only are multi-use items correctly used, the recipe format has been expanded to look for a count, so not only will any old [item_combination] recipes work (count defaults to 1), but now the number of items used AND produced can be specified in the recipe configuration. With multi-use items, uses will be degraded or created. With non-multiuse items, the appropriate number of items will be required and will be produced.

It's pretty robust. The in-inventory crafting is now quite useful.

[muted mortar]

I got directed here for this - anybody know of a way to reduce or eliminate the stagger NPCs do when you shoot them in gunfights? Shoot anybody enough and they get stuck in that animation then you just line up their head. Pretty boring after a while. I think gunfights would play out better without it so if anybody knows of a way and could tell me, that would be appreciated

[naive snow]

I guess you could always remove the stagger value on all of the ammo?

[slow bolt]

It aint that

They stagger when they take a lot of damage

[steel willow]

Just want to show appreciation for people who helped me get this stupid idea to work

https://i.imgur.com/fHFXnKy.png

Me and my friends have been adding to this for a bit now

it just keeps getting bigger

[fallow ingot]

is it possible to port npc models?

[subtle scroll]

Hey anyone know of how to fix this issue? Expression: <no expression> Function: CInifile::r_string File: D:\a\xray-monolith\src\xrCore\Xr_ini.cpp Line: 1171 Description: Fatal Error Arguments: Cant find veriable class in [wpn_adar2_15]

[queen pine]

@subtle scroll Update your GAMMA Launcher:

1. Add your GAMMA and Anomaly folders to the Windows Defender exclusions and disable real-time protection temporarily, before downloading the file.
   You can find these settings here:

Windows Security > Virus & threat protection > Manage settings

2. Grab the latest launcher: #📢announcements message
3. Go to [YOUR GAMMA FOLDER]\.Grok's Modpack Installer folder and extract the G.A.M.M.A. Launcher.exe and the resources folder there (picture for reference below)
4. Launch the G.A.M.M.A. Launcher.exe with Admin Rights and either:

Follow the instructions from a Helper that is helping you.
OR
Press Install/Update G.A.M.M.A without disabling anything.
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[slow bolt]

Make sure your gamma launcher is version 6

expected a different paste, unfortunately

[vital dock]

say i'm editing a character model, saving and replacing the old one
do I need to start a new playthrough (like for those hd model mods), or can I just continue with my old saves?

[wicked latch]

hi folks, I want to remove LMGs from elite monolith loadouts. I have cleared whole Pripyat and Outskirts, got 4-5 PKPs instead of any good 9x39 gun.
What is the best way to do it? Is it in .Grok's Modpack Installer\resources\Stalker_GAMMA\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches\gamedata ?

or maybe there is some \modpack_addons responsible for NPC loadouts?

[simple scaffold]

As long as the model name isn't changed you can use old save

[regal bolt]

Just go in the CNPP bunker.

[wicked latch]

I know how to add stuff into loadouts using DLTX approach, but how to remove?

[sacred token]

Also with DLTX https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dltx.html#field-deletion

[soft burrow]

I really want to disable the camera roll when leaning left or right.
Anyone got a clue?
I already checked the INERTIA mod's leaning .amn files with blender, hoping to find a clue, but it looks like they're just a little wiggle that's added on top of the normal camera roll.

[slow bolt]

Pretty sure some leaning mod did exactly that

[steady apex]

how do you lean without camera roll

[slow bolt]

Moves the camera since you dont exactly "lean" irl, but peek

Q would be a bit down, then left

[steady apex]

so you have no way

since leaning is rolling in stalker

[slow bolt]

i dont remeber how it worked in there sadly. Dont even remember the name of that mod

[steady apex]

to disable camera roll while leaning, do db.actor:set_actor_lookout_coef(0)

its a modded exes feature only

but you might have no leaning at all with that

[slow bolt]

I tried to find that mod, but sadly i failed

I remember that the mod used a gif for a picture

It was a dude leaning and showcasing the animation change

[random fulcrum]

maybe add a camera anim that tilts to the opposite direction

[soft burrow]

Is this a console command? is it going to persist after I close the game?

[random fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/neverita-uvst-bad-bunny-conejo-gif-26642123

[steady apex]

you put it in a script in some callback

try in actor on first update

[soft burrow]

oh okay

[soft burrow]

you were right

[soft burrow]

it would have to be an animation that starts counteracting the vanilla roll and then holds the final roll angle for as long as I keep pressing the key.
can stalker camera animations even do that last part?

lol lookout_coef(2) is wild
can almost stick my whole body out the window

[steady apex]

there are no limits on values, negative value will swap directions

and 2pi will make a full circle

[soft burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/barrel-roll-panda-barrelroll-funny-gif-4935160

[slow bolt]

Best bet is to find that mod

It exists

[soft burrow]

is there a similar thing to this but for the crouching height?

[wild sphinx]

LTX noob here
Trying to make a patch for Nav's Masks for a mod that adds more helmets, I already have a modified actor_effects.ltxthat would work, but what would be the better option of adding into the original one isntead of overwritting? I know DLTX can do this but am noob.
Mainly trying to set it up so if someone has another patch for such, it doesn't conflict, and be more easy to jsut add

[obsidian void]

Hey @steady apex, would you be willing to update "Parts in tooltip" to include an option to display the weapon parts in the second slot of the details window, instead of at the bottom? Is that even possible?

I have disabled WPO's parts condition at the top because to me it didn't make sense to have two redundant sections of information in the window, and I prefer the way your mod does it over how WPO does it.

[steady apex]

You can make the edit yourself

[obsidian void]

I did look at the code but I got a little lost. I'm sure if I took enough time with it I would figure it out. Could you clue me in to how to change the position in the details window?

[steady apex]

I have no idea how details window is build up

[obsidian void]

haha!

[steady apex]

If you meant the actual tooltip, I think it patches some ui function so it always draws vanilla stuff first and then the parts

[obsidian void]

I was worried that might be the case

So basically I would have to patch the utils_ui script in some way to place your section at the top.

[obsidian void]

I assume that is what WPO is doing here in the utils_ui_custom.script:
`
class "UICellPropertiesCustom" (utils_ui.UICellProperties)

function UICellPropertiesCustom:__init(functor) super()
self.functor = functor
end

function UICellPropertiesCustom:OnListItemDbClicked()
if self.list_box:GetSize()==0 then return end
local item = self.list_box:GetSelectedItem()
if not (item) then
return
end

if item.func then 
    if item.params then
        pcall(self.functor, unpack(item.params))
    else
        pcall(self.functor)
    end
    
    self.action_moment = time_continual()
end

if (self:IsShown()) then
    self:OnHide()
end

end`

[slow bolt]

UICellPropertiesCustom:OnListItemDbClicked
implies the item was double clicked

[obsidian void]

Yeah I honestly don't exactly know what this piece of script is for lol. I will have to review the function I commented out in the jamming script

[fair inlet]

I mean this is how it would look like if the irons were aligned

[slow bolt]

TLDR model error

[fair inlet]

different weapon but you get it

[steady apex]

no such thing for crouching unfortunately

have to add that

[slow bolt]

Wait, isnt it aks-74u?

those irons are raised

[fair inlet]

nah just ak74, 74u is even worse

[slow bolt]

Model error then

They supposed to line up, but cant

[lethal garden]

This is the CBJ from the Misc. Weapons Pack. Now, this thing has SEVERE weapon sway when ADS, does anyone know a way to reduce the sway when aiming? In the LTX file maybe?

[rotund lotus]

Adjust the recoil on it

If u dont know pm me and ill send u mine overall config on the misc weapons

[atomic haven]

Hi ya'll would anyone happen to know the code/script in the game files that determines how long a stalker stays wounded before getting back up? I modified a script file so that important NPCs can't die and only get injured but my problem now is that they don't stay injured for long enough.

[tawny yoke]

Function : CScriptEngine::lua_pcall_failed
File : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 262
Description : fatal error
Arguments :
1 : [Lua] ...ma/anomaly\gamedata\scripts\grok_artefacts_melter.script(419) :

LUA error: ...ma/anomaly\gamedata\scripts\grok_artefacts_melter.script:419: attempt to index field 'cond_t' (a nil value

any idea how to fix this?

this is the 419 line = zz_item_artefact.cond_t[obj_1:id()] = self.con_val[4] / 100

[atomic haven]

Anyone got an idea how to do this?

[obsidian void]

I think this must be the patch that adds the wpo text at the top of the tooltip

`original_build_desc_header = ui_item.build_desc_header
function ui_item.build_desc_header(obj, sec, str)
local _str = ""
local _str2 = original_build_desc_header(obj, sec, str)

if obj and IsWeapon(obj) and not IsAmmo(obj) and arti_jamming.has_parts(obj) then
    local parts = item_parts.get_parts_con(obj, nil, true)
    local display_str = ""
    for k,v in pairs(parts) do
        display_str = display_str .. process_part(k, v)
    end
    if display_str ~= "" then
        display_str =  " " .. clr_p .. gc("st_name_issues") .. "\\n" .. display_str
        _str = _str .. display_str
    end
end
_str = _str .. _str2

return _str

end`

Looks like it monkeypatches ui_item maybe?

[slow bolt]

It does

[raw badger]

hello guys is the lever action rifle include in default mod pack or where can i find one

[surreal cipher]

its included, but I think you would get better results asking on #╓☢stalker-chat or #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

btw, quick question: does anyone knows if is it possible to code a script that would add some kind o "trembling" to the weapon being hold, like actor is shaking or something?

[raw badger]

thanks for respond mate i found it

[surreal cipher]

I'm interested in trying to make a effect were, if your psy health gets low enough, your aim start shaking a little, maybe it gets worse the further psy health deteriorates

[obsidian void]

Look at body health realistic overhaul, it has a weapon sway script that it calls when the actors limbs are damaged. Might be able to adapt it.

Iirc it actually has a bunch of psy-health related effects built in. It's a very good mod, highly recommend

[wicked latch]

guys, there is file called "w_vintorez.ltx". I want to override scope texture. What is proper way to do it using dltx?

Original:

[wpn_vintorez_1p29]:wpn_vintorez
scope_texture                            = wpn_crosshair_1p29

I want

[wpn_vintorez_1p29]:wpn_vintorez
scope_texture                            = wpn_crosshair_vss

I have tried to use ! operator, but it is not working

[surreal cipher]

I see, thank you for the suggestion!

[steady apex]

rename the file to mod_system_vss_change_reticle.ltx and put it into gamedata/configs

[open oasis]

@simple scaffold hey, step #2 of the mod is complete, i have made a separate sheet for just the mags, moving onto step #3 - how would i go about making a list of all the weapons and their associated mags in one file? where do i obtain the positions for all the guns in accordance with their atlas?

sorry i know i'm getting into this with like zero knowledge lol

[open oasis]

@naive snow maybe you'd know how to help me with this? i'm looking for a list that points all the weapons to their respective place in the atlas

so far looking for ui\ui_icon_bas.dds in the files didn't net any results

[slow bolt]

simplest way is to search for weapons section name to find a file

[open oasis]

how do you mean? i am not able to associate the weapon image with its name

i'm not that experienced in the game

[slow bolt]

each weapon is pointed individually

[open oasis]

so uhh how do i go about pointing to a mag for each weapon in one file

how do i even find a comprehensive list of all the weapons in this atlas

[slow bolt]

what did you do exactly then?

[open oasis]

so far nothing, just made two versions of the atlas

[slow bolt]

ah, well then search for the .dds file name in all the files in gamma

[open oasis]

it doesn't include weapons that are not in the atlas yet

[slow bolt]

i would do that to find where it is referenced

[open oasis]

it should be like 4 weapons that are missing

off the top of my head the SR-25, G36, P90, and something else

oh the Vector i think

[open oasis]

i did that but for the mods section and so far no hits at all

the mods section is where i got the .dds in the first place

[slow bolt]

what did you seatch and where?

what is the file name for example

[slow bolt]

remove .dds

[open oasis]

okay running the search again, this will take a few minutes

[slow bolt]

its also the wrong slash

[open oasis]

i'm not looking for a file

i'm looking for references to this file in the .ltx's

it was the correct slash here

[slow bolt]

it isnt actually the wrong slash, nvm

the example has the wrong slash

[open oasis]

finally getting hits

[slow bolt]

you get a lot of them

[open oasis]

not as many as i think there should be

so far it's 101 weapons

should i cancel and take a look at the results

[slow bolt]

because it only needs to be referenced once per weapon, or once per inherit

[open oasis]

oh per weapon but not the scoped variants right

or actually no that would be wrong

it'd have to point to multiple places in the file for different scoped versions

[slow bolt]

but same file

you dont need to define the same file twice

[open oasis]

hm okay

[slow bolt]

either way use AnyTXT search

since it indexes - its instant

[open oasis]

ah shit all the hits are from attachments

now if i search in the BaS folder i get weapon matches

@slow bolt did i reach the right place?

that's only 42 hits though

[slow bolt]

most likely

[naive snow]

Launch your notepad++ through MO2 and search your c:/anomaly folder instead you'll get every mod assembled and virtualized in your anomaly folder

[slow bolt]

could do that, yeah. will be helluva lot less hits but they would all be the ones you want

[open oasis]

these are all weapons that i want i think

i'm just worried there are so few of them

how could it just be 42 guns

@naive snow like so?

i don't really know what you meant by that

i get more hits just searching the entire GAMMA folder but it's going to take ages

[naive snow]

Use Force Load Libraires

[open oasis]

it was already checked

[naive snow]

And then search your c:/ anomaly
You'll essentially get the same path/virtualisation as when you launch your game

[open oasis]

uhh

that never happened before

[naive snow]

What are your filters?

[open oasis]

i'm softlocked into that error message lol

[naive snow]

Use *.ltx instead

And make sure you have your anomaly .db archives extracted too beforehand

[open oasis]

i did not make sure of that lol i got 201 hits now

does that sound right

why am i not searching in the GAMMA folder though

like what's the logic behind that

[slow bolt]

because this makes sure you search the latest file loaded, instead of all of them

[open oasis]

ohh gotcha

[slow bolt]

less hits overall while also they are more useful

[open oasis]

does this look right

original:

(that's where i take the values from)

[slow bolt]

again, no .dds needed

[open oasis]

ah god fucking damnit

fixed

[naive snow]

You'll need the extracted archives as otherwise you're missing the base .ltx files of anomaly in your search

[open oasis]

i'll be going through these

[slow bolt]

are you doing a DLTX edit? you are

then if the x and y are the same - dont need to repeat them

ah,wait. those are mags

[open oasis]

no these are for the weapons

the mags will have the same position

since that's how i edited the atlas

[slow bolt]

if it is for the weapons, then why the section names are mags?

[simple scaffold]

Sorry I have COVID can't think.

The guns will replace the normal gun icons.

Only need special sections for the mags.

The stalker icon editor can help you get the grid numbers

[slow bolt]

you too got covid? what is this third wave

[open oasis]

shit i'm sorry to hear that man get well soon

[slow bolt]

@swift sphinx

[open oasis]

hi

that is not me lol

[slow bolt]

well he deserved the ping

[open oasis]

true i am the real klip

anyway uhh that's what i was told to do in the OP

[slow bolt]

that is for the mags

[open oasis]

okay but the mags are in that same position as the gun

in the atlas

that should be fine no?

[slow bolt]

if you want to replace icons for the weapons - section name should be the name of the gun, not mag

[simple scaffold]

Idea is replace normal gun icons with the ones with no mags.

Use the icon layers script to add the mag if gun has a mag in it. With redux obvs.

I can't do the finicky explaining now tho. Maybe you can help

[open oasis]

yeah the normal atlas will not be used

it will be replaced with the magless version i made

[slow bolt]

ah, well in that case need to replace icons for all of them with the same texture, but the position might be funny

for weapons i can help

[open oasis]

i am meant to layer the mags like attachments on top of the gun but i deliberately made them have the same position

so i don't have to do these one by one

[slow bolt]

but the layer stuff i dont know

@open oasis Replace the icons for weapons first

[open oasis]

okay, how do i do that

remove the "mag"?

[slow bolt]

change these to the respective weapon's section name

so, wherever you copied that from and put a ! before the name in []

[open oasis]

like so?

[slow bolt]

so like
[wpn_abakan]
bla-bla
bla-bla

in your file
![wpn_abakan]
bla-bla
bla-bla

yes

assuming that is the section name in the file

[open oasis]

it should be

[slow bolt]

do x and y coordinates even change?

if they dont - no need to specify them again

[open oasis]

i have literally not moved a single thing around

it's just the same position with no mag

[slow bolt]

then you only need one line there

x and y dont change, so you dont need to add them again

[open oasis]

keep this ok

[slow bolt]

and do that for every weapon bas has

[open oasis]

do i have a way of testing this in-game to see if it worked

[slow bolt]

create a new mod and put that file with a mod_system prefix

into gamedata\configs\items\weapons

Example: gamedata\configs\items\weapons\mod_system_whatever.ltx

[open oasis]

and i need to put the custom atlas inside textures\ui right

[slow bolt]

yeah

[open oasis]

testing now, fingers crossed 🤞

okay it didn't work

this is the .ltx directory

[random fulcrum]

gamedata\configs

not deeper

[open oasis]

this is the atlas directory

[open oasis]

oh

so it's just like the repositions

[random fulcrum]

you also have gamedata\gamedata\

[open oasis]

i'm so stupid

[slow bolt]

bruh

[open oasis]

oh no hang on that is just the name of the mod

i didn't change it

does that matter

[random fulcrum]

ah well then yeah it's fine

[slow bolt]

does it matter though?

[random fulcrum]

just move the dltx to the root configs folder

[slow bolt]

gamedata mod

[random fulcrum]

provak powerlevel

[open oasis]

oh SHIT

let's GO

ok so first things first i do this for all weapons in the list yeah

then we can continue

[slow bolt]

yep

ngl i would have just gave this task to LLM. too much mundane work

[open oasis]

we gotta start somewhere

i'm getting fired irl either today or tomorrow

i don't mind the extra work

i'm just not willing to layer each mag manually, i need to have this work with the current positions

i specifically made the atlas that way

[simple scaffold]

For the circled part you will need the grid x,y width and height from the original gun. Copy paste to here. The dds will be the mag one though.

[open oasis]

got it so for the mags variant i'll have to include the x,y coordinates

it's just the same listing process right

[simple scaffold]

And width and height. All to match to ones in the gun

Yeah. But no ! This is not DLTX, just a new ltx with a ton of icon sections.

[simple scaffold]

Need all 5 of these lines. They describe a complete icon.

[open oasis]

gotcha so for the [tch_mag_abakan_n] stuff i use all 5 lines

no ".dds" and exact same positions as from the original file

it's the list i'm making right now and another for the mags

ok, the good news is that the changes i made specifically to the BaS weapons work

the bad news is that there is a shitton of fucking guns that aren't BaS lmao

but i won't let that stop me

it's 01.30am i'm gonna take a break for now and return to the mags later

[atomic haven]

Hi, would anyone know how to lock a specific npc into a current state? I'm trying to make it so unique NPCs never die and are only wounded but when wounded are locked in the wounded state until you leave the area for example

[random fulcrum]

try locking the guy to a certain hp amount?

idk how would you do that without recurring to something like npc_on_update

and that's extremely expensive if you don't control it

[atomic haven]

Hmm, this is the code I have now which is like a mix between the Tougher Companions mod and the Immortal Important npcs mod. I think there's already a code which puts them at, in this case, 4 percent of their health.

Problem is, they still stand up after around a minute with full health.

Would you know where in the code I can put in the npc_on_update line or a different line that locks them to a certain hp?

[atomic haven]

what do you mean by this? Would I need to limit the npc_on_update function to only the specific characters to control it?

[fair canopy]

So your mod is going to show guns without mags loaded in them?

[uncut adder]

reminds me of a very old vids I've seen back in early CoP days, not sure if that author actually done the mod

[obsidian void]

He's trying to make icons for mags redux that can swap the way attachments do.

[fair canopy]

ah that's awesome. IMO last thing missing from Mags before getting into desolation territory

[wicked latch]

still not working

[atomic haven]

How do I make a script work only if another script is triggered?

[atomic haven]

Okay, I was able to make it so certain NPCs stay in a wounded loop using the npc_on_update function but now the problem is that, they are injured even when just loading into the level or loading a save. I was wondering, is there a way to make it so the npc_on_update function, which contains the loop to keep them wounded, only fires after the npc_on_before_hit function, which contains the script for me shooting them putting them into a wounded state without killing them? Basically can I make it so the function only works after another function is triggered, if so, how?

[open oasis]

the mod will show weapons without mags attached to them if they don't have a mags redux mag inserted - that way you can tell at a glance which weapon does or does not have a mag you can readily use; if the mag is inserted it is layered on top of the gun like an attachment

i'll be working on the mag layer next

[fair canopy]

ah cool. will it show which mag type or will it just be based on the base icons for each gun?

[open oasis]

and after i confirm this all works i will add the missing weapons

[open oasis]

no, just the default mag

making special mags for each gun is too much work

i am satisfied with just the one mag showing or not

[fair canopy]

yeah that would definitely be a hell of a task

[open oasis]

i want to be able to tell which gun is usable immediately or not

[open oasis]

each atlas has already taken me around 4 hours of work each and that was using existing sprites

i have no idea how to automate this so everything is cut and moved manually

how naive of me to think it was only 4 weapons missing from the BaS sheet lol when i checked the debug menu only around 10% of all guns were magless after doing those ~180 BaS entries

[fair canopy]

are you going to do all vanilla anomaly guns too?

or just gamma ones?

[open oasis]

i'm going to do all guns that appear in the game and have mag attachments, obviously

i just need a way to find their sprites and positions

i'm not too familiar with the game's file strcture

with BaS it was easy since it's all under ui_icon_bas.dds

i thought the majority of guns were in there 😭

[open oasis]

can you try without the :wpn_vintorez? when i was making repositions i didn't need that part

maybe it's different to what you're trying to accomplish idk

worth a try

[open oasis]

@simple scaffold okay i have created the w__mag_icons.ltx file like you instructed me which should be completing step #4, i am not entirely sure how to continue with the layering of the 1icon_layers, is that even needed anymore since the mags are in the same position as the gun?

i can continue looking for the other guns to de-mag while you recover

[naive snow]

You still need to specify the width, height and grid position of the new "mags" so they get layered on top of the weapon (unless you're just swapping back to the default icon if it's loaded)

[open oasis]

it is swapping to the default icon back and forth

the weapons and the mags have the same positions since it's the same grid

it's just the weapon is transparent with the mags and with the weapon layer the mags are transparent

i thought you could just skip that step and have it be layered with mags on top of the weapon magless

[naive snow]

Then simply pointing to the new image should be enough if you override the ![wpn_xxx] section appropriately

[open oasis]

then i probably didn't need the coordinates right

[naive snow]

Wait you're doing mags as an attachment icon or are you simply swapping the core icon?

[open oasis]

i- i don't know i'm just doing what Raven is telling me to do lol

Mirrowel helped yesterday too

the original weapon icon is now magless

it remains in the same position

the mag icon is also in that same position in a different atlas

so that i don't need to go and place each icon separately for each weapon

you can layer ui_icon_bas_mags on top of ui_icon_bas_magless and have the complete gun show as intended

[naive snow]

You could have simply reverted to the original icon I guess instead since they have the mags

[open oasis]

well Raven intended to do the mag layer as an attachment

i don't know he's the Lua wizard

[naive snow]

Either works really

[open oasis]

so what is my next step here?

do you know where i need to look to find the rest of the guns?

[naive snow]

Finish the 200+ weapons

Well a bunch are in the anomaly .db archives

You should have found the rest in your notepad++

[open oasis]

i think i have

how do i unpack the archives?

i have 90 weapon entries

[naive snow]

Go in your Anomaly folder> tools. Find the unpackall.bat or whatever and make sure you have enough space (it's 20gig of stuff)

It will unpack everything at the same spot under a _unpacked folder.

[open oasis]

and how can i get a list of all of them in N++? what do i look for?

[naive snow]

You can create a mod in your Gamma/mods folder, create an empty gamedata folder and move the content of the unpacked folder in there. Refresh mo2, enable the new mod at the very bottom of your priority list. Relaunch notepad++ and redo the search

Basically the .db archives are just a bunch of folders compressed (likes meshes, textures, scripts, configs, etc)

So search using the same filter as before with *.ltx

[open oasis]

yeah but i imagine i can't search for "ui_icon_bas" again since they're not BaS icons lol

what do i actually search to get the list reliably

[naive snow]

Just search for the line icons_texture or whatever in the config folder I guess in any .ltx file

Tho you'll get artifacts and other items included too

Usually weapons .ltx files can and will have multiple entries of these for each variant of the gun. Example is the wpn_sig550.ltx has an entry for the camo, the custom, the luckygun and a sniper version that doesn't exist anymore. The should all use the same atlas, but some of them might not

[open oasis]

and what atlas are those referencing

[naive snow]

Also, dont run the game with the unpacked new mod you just created, it fucks a bunch of stuff

[open oasis]

i'll take a look into textures\ui regardless but just trying to make this easier on myself

[open oasis]

so just move it to a different place yeah?

[naive snow]

No idea, bunch of guns are standalone atlases, others are single sheet icons, etc

[open oasis]

i already got everything from the packed version

[naive snow]

Nah just disable it when you want to run the game. It's a mod at that point

[open oasis]

wait so unpack it with the tool, search inside it, then zip it up and disable it if i want to run the game?

i don't get the running through MO2 stuff

[naive snow]

No you missed a step

[open oasis]

or unpacking through MO2

[naive snow]

You need to create a new mod, call it whatever you want

Go to your gamma folder, into mods

Create a new folder, something like Anomaly Unpacked Files

Inside create a new folder called gamedata

Move everything you have in _unpacked to it

Refresh MO2 and that first folder you created should appear as a new mod at the bottom of your list

Enable it

Launch Notepad++ through MO2 like you usually do

Redo the search

[open oasis]

and what do i do with the old unpacked

just delete?

[naive snow]

You can delete it, you don't need two copies

[open oasis]

also will i now be searching inside the mods directory and specifically that new unpacked mod

or all of GAMMA

[naive snow]

Just search your C:/Anomaly. If your Notepad++ is launched through mo2 it will see everything like if it had been moved to c:/anomaly

When you launch an application through MO2, it tricks that application to see files the same as the window in mo2 that has your files hierarchy, the outliner on the right (by default)

So you have all of the right files "virtualized" under your c:/Anomaly without needing to manually fix up conflicts or order of overwrites

[open oasis]

so it also sees everything in GAMMA?

[naive snow]

Otherwise, if you search in your Gamma folder instead you might find 5 versions of the same file in your Mods folder, figuring out which one is the right one is a pain

[naive snow]

Gamma stuff gets "virtualized" (a fake virtual path to your anomaly folder) so yes

Iirc, mo2 basically connects every Gamma/mods/"insert mod name"/gamedata to your Anomaly/gamedata

[open oasis]

i guess the issue now becomes just finding a reliable pattern to which atlas icons are being referenced

[naive snow]

Well the only way to know is to check the icons_texture line

[open oasis]

are you sure this will show me everything i need to find

[naive snow]

That basically tells any [item] what the icon sheet it should use

[open oasis]

even if it's got like stray results i don't mind

i just need to make sure all the weapons are there

[naive snow]

You should be getting way more results if you search properly now

[open oasis]

is this normal?

[naive snow]

If you miss one or two special cases you can always check in the debug item spawner what the weapon name is and search for its ltx name

[naive snow]

Did you create a gamedata folder in the mod folder?

[open oasis]

oh, no i missed that step

[naive snow]

You need to move everything in there afterwards

[open oasis]

that fixed it

yeah

[naive snow]

Gamedata folder is basically the root folder of any files for xray engine

[open oasis]

919 hits for icons_texture

here i should be able to find all the guns right?

[naive snow]

Have fun

[naive snow]

To my knowledge yes

[open oasis]

i'm just worried some weapons will not be included here and the majority of them i'll have to go out of my way to find

[naive snow]

Weapons can only be handled in .ltx files so if you're searching through every single.ltx you should find them all really

[open oasis]

okay yeah i had that *.ltx filter

i will also be having a slightly harder time since i have a few weapon mods

so distinguishing between which one is modded or not will be a pain lol

i guess i'll just have inherent mod support for RWAP, LEWD, and some solitary gun mods

[naive snow]

Tho like I said earlier, variants of weapons (sig550 for example) will have all it variants created in the same .ltx file. Those variants might use the same icon atlas, but not the same grid x and y

[open oasis]

how can i tell whether that is the case for the weapon i'm looking at

[naive snow]

The variants wont have the icons_texture line in some cases, but if they have a specified grid x and y in them they probably point to another icon in the atlas

Have a look at the sig550 file, you'll understand. Variants are often (but not always) delimited with a

---

Camo version

New values blah blah

[open oasis]

ah so going by separators

i'll just have to scroll through each file i find then

[naive snow]

The curse of dltx is that any mod can overwrite any of those values anywhere. Exemple my mod that switches the m4a1 tactical for my own. My change isn't in the actual wpn_m4a1.ltx file, but it overwrites the line of icons_texture of that file

[naive snow]

Since you don't really care about the actual icons_texture line you could simply do a search for any icon_grid_x or icon_grid_y (if those are correctly spelled out of memory). You just want those values right?

I know some of the guns have the scopes not as an attachment icon layer but instead the scoped section of the weapon overwrites which icon it is (the atlas has the core gun icon with every possible scope drawn in)

You can find some of these if you look in your ui/icons folder

The smart way to go about this really would be to write a small program that could look through every .ltx file, under any "[wpn_xxxx]" any line of "icons_texture","icon_grid_x","icon_grid_y" (grid size too for x and y) and write a nice clean .ltx file with all of that info. You'd get everything scrapped automatically for every single weapon. Pipe that info directly for the creation of the mag attachment.

Whenever you want to update for a new weapon, just launch your program and it spits out an updated .ltx file ready for use. Just create the magless edit and the mag atlas and you're done.

Manually copy/pasting all of that info by hand is insane work otherwise really

[atomic haven]

Do while loops just not work in Stalker? I've been trying to make a while loop and the game just crashes

[open oasis]

yeah but i'm not smart lol

that would be 1icon_layer_x and 1icon_layer_y

[naive snow]

Aren't those the position offset?

[open oasis]

is that not what you meant?

otherwise it's inv_grid_x and inv_grid_y

oh shit

i hit the motherlode

actually maybe not since those are all rusted to shit

there's no way some of these items are referencing that sheet right

fuck i have no way of knowing what's being overwritten and what isn't aaaaa

i don't know if any of these are actually used in GAMMA

[naive snow]

Yeah its those two you need and the size one too.

[open oasis]

ok none of the weapons are not being taken from that sheet thankfully

[open oasis]

okay that

we're not doing that

[naive snow]

Well it's the value you'll need, so buckle up

Since you need to point to the same position in your mag atlas

[open oasis]

i'm trying to do ui\ui_icon_ and that has 540 hits so maybe i could narrow the search down

[naive snow]

See now why I said it was insanity to do it by hand?

[open oasis]

icons_texture has 919 hits

[open oasis]

i see no other way

i'm not smart i can't make programs to pull all that shit for me lol