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[regal bolt]

Well, I guess it is a blessing, not a bug. 😅

[slow bolt]

as short as possible? that aint immersive

[celest forge]

I guess he means no weird empty spaces at the start and end of healing animations

You know, those 2 seconds after bandaging or the "zipping up your jacket" after using a med kit

[regal bolt]

I know it is for zipping, but this is about common sense. When there are mutants roaring and gunshots blazing around you, you won't hear zipping. And another moment, during animation play camera must not be moved. Player must still be able to turn camera freely. In other words camera must always stay under player's control. It is a golden unwritten rule of a good FPS game. The only exclusion for camera control interception is when you get under psi-control of a Controller mutant. Damn it, all these tiny micro mechanic features may ruin the game experience if realized and tuned unproperly. When animations delay or take control from player without any adequate reason, it simply forces player to switch all these animations off. And he wouldn't have done that if animations behavior were realized properly.

[regal bolt]

For me "unimmersiveness" occurs when a stalker moron taking his time applying medicine without any haste when he is about to get killed by approaching enemies.

[pallid path]

Do you guys know if the 'Random Artefact Spawn chance' effects the OVERALL Spawn chance?
Or just the chance that
{IF a artefact spawns - This is the chance it is a random one?}

Or is it

{This is the chance that a random artefact will spawn independantly of the normal ones}

????????

[frigid notch]

hello, I was reading the announcements for next update and saw that as val variants are getting removed. im wondering is there a way you can add them and others like ar hera back to the loot pools?

I got redirected here and Im really hoping someone can help with this 😄 kinda dont understand why we cant just keep the variants

[onyx shadow]

idk if this is a modding question or not but how do i change hand models for wastelander outfit ?

[grizzled gorge]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1184536402843668490

[frigid notch]

thank you

[onyx shadow]

is it easy to do by editing config files ?

[grizzled gorge]

i think you should be able to do this in G.A.M.M.A. Hands Legs Models Swap // mod_system_THAP_Rework.ltx

[onyx shadow]

thank you

[regal bolt]

Wanted to mention about location transition mechanic. The location transition must not happen automatically. I used to depart to another location several times by accident in a heat of a fight. It would be nice to visually indicate the location transition zones by highlighting, or at least add an icon that appears on a HUD when player is located inside location transition zone. Then player simply presses a hotkey or combination of hotkeys in order to initiate loading of next location. No more accidental transitions gonna happen. Maybe there is already a mod like that?

[grizzled gorge]

you can disable "206- Areas transition without confirmation (smoother gameflow) - Tom_Sharikov" to revert to the old transition system

[regal bolt]

thank you!

[humble remnant]

If I wanted a commission a mod to add minor limb healing to vodka, is that a thing that is allowed here?

[celest forge]

While I agree with you, at the end of the day, none of these mods, not even gamma itself, is developed by a professional team or experienced game developer except from a few isolated cases. We're also not paying for the product, so while it would be cool if someone fixed all of the issues with animations, we're really not on a place to be demanding stuff

[regal bolt]

Sure thing, I am not demanding anything here. It would have looked very funny if i did. I am just pointing it out. Cuz for me it is very heartbreaking to see the tremendous amount of brilliant work, done by a talented modders on a basis of pure enthusiasm, vanish in vain just because of flawed mechanics.

[tiny glacier]

I wonder how feasible it would be to mod a MGS-style cardboard box, using the disguise mechanic applied to all human factions and being discovered if you get seen moving in any way.

[obsidian void]

Is there a simple way to make a copy of a model and texture, rename them, and point the model to the renamed texture?

I tried using pavel's blender addon to import the ogf, change the texture name, export the ogf (with a new name) but my new model just looks like a dark purple color? I'm a little lost when it comes to modelling stuff

[static nebula]

https://github.com/VaIeroK/OGF-tool/releases

use this instead of messing with the blender stuff lol

not sure if you'll have any better luck but it's a lot less tedious

i think barrybogs mentioned a newer tool actually, but this is the one i use

[vague sphinx]

@thin kelp Hello, sorry to bother you, I was wondering how you were doing to view each models ? I'm trying to sort them a little bit but spawning stalkers ingame until I have all the models visuals seems a bit impractical

I'm really just trying to get a picture of each

[thin kelp]

I would just do it in blender if you wanted a view from each, if you were trying to do it from in game with the spawner its not really designed with getting singular models

[naive snow]

Use AXR Toolset to edit the OGF file and point to the new texture with the OGF viewer

[obsidian void]

Thanks I'll have to look into that

[naive snow]

Just be aware that all paths referenced in the OGF are relative paths to the GameData folder. I recommend you create a new entry in your MO2 to launch AXR toolset so it sees all the same files and paths as when your game is launched

[obsidian void]

ah nice okay

[regal bolt]

Anyone knows what mod is responsible for this file?

compiling shader model_scope_lense
! c:/anomaly/bin/..\appdata\shaders_cache\r1\model_scope_lense.ps\0010000
! error: (11): error X3003: redefinition of 'm_hud_params'

[simple scaffold]

did you delete your shader cache? do that first.

mo2 has a data tab under where you select what executable to run.

in the panel opened by that tab type: model_scope_lense

that will tell you what addon has that file. It might be a more complicated problem and the cause else where, but this is a starting point

[regal bolt]

I found these two

[naive snow]

R1 that would be DX8 if I'm not mistaken, the rest is shader cache stuff so try !shaders for that.
Probably a file that touches the scope lenses?

[regal bolt]

Will try

[naive snow]

If you have Notepad ++ you could try searcing your C:/Gamma or C:/Anomaly. You might have to also unpack the .db files for anomaly to search properly. Look for that line of model_scope_lense in *.ltx or something

Yeah the file is part of the .db packs of base anomaly

[regal bolt]

That made the save crash on load

[naive snow]

Since I'm seeing that you have 458, your best bet is probably to reset your shader cache by purging it

[naive snow]

Did you use the shader cache delete option from the anomaly launcher or did you do it manually as you should?

[regal bolt]

Manually

In file explorer

[naive snow]

Alright and what does that new log tell you?

[regal bolt]

compiling shader model_distort_2
compiling shader model_distort4glass_2
compiling shader model_distort_4
compiling shader model_def_lqs_2
! Invalid ogg-comment version, file: c:/anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\sounds\monsters\controller\controller_tube_prepare.ogg
! Can't find texture 'wpn\wpn_gas_block_ar15_colt_m4_front_sight_gas_block_std_lod0_d'
compiling shader models_lfo_light_dot_weapons
! c:/anomaly/bin/..\appdata\shaders_cache\r1\models_lfo_light_dot_weapons.ps\0010000
! error: (2): error X3003: redefinition of 'screen_res'

[naive snow]

Did you recently add a new mod that would modify some models red dots or something?

[regal bolt]

No. All mods were present since the beginning of the save

[naive snow]

Did you update any of them prior to the new crash?

Also this is probably better off in #🔨modded-gamma-support

[regal bolt]

It's already there. I just wanted to know if any of you knew the root of the issue

[regal bolt]

No. I reinstalled my game from scratch a week ago and didn't use the installer midrun

[naive snow]

Could be loads of things writing in screen_res ...

[regal bolt]

Crap. so there is no easy wa to determine?

[naive snow]

Try this I guess?

You could also grab a .ps file viewer and try opening up the problematic .ps image

[regal bolt]

What is that?

[naive snow]

Notepad++, Search in Files, looking into C:\GAMMA

[regal bolt]

I will download the notepad++

[naive snow]

A load of .ps files do write to screen_res

Have a look in the various .ps files that were causing issues and crash, check for the mention of screen_res

[simple scaffold]

might be easier to just uninstall all the mods you added since the last time you played. delete your shade cache. make sure the game works. then add the mods back one at a time, deleteing shader cache as a propriate.

[regal bolt]

Will try, but I did that prior to starting a save, to make sure it would work

[naive snow]

Unlike the R2 version of that file, the R1 file does redefine the uniform float4 screen_res;

You could try killing that line and clearing out your shader cache once more, see if that allows you to jump over that hurdle

[regal bolt]

So deleting the second line inside that file?

[naive snow]

Yeah, just make a note of what you just did or back up the file and rename the extension .bak or something

[regal bolt]

Will do

[regal bolt]

Okay. Just made a backup copy with .bak extension and now do I nuke that line?

[regal bolt]

Okay. Done. The base modpack +!dx8 works

(The weapon from the stash that started causing the issue works in base GAMMA)

I'll try re-enabling my mods and nuke that "screen_res" line from the .ps file. Let's see if it works

It worked

I'm astonished

[naive snow]

Sweet, looks like it really was that postscript file then

[regal bolt]

Yep. Thanks man! ^^

This Notepad++ is quite a useful tool for mod scripting

Opens files no normal notepad could

[naive snow]

It's a pretty good substitude to visual studio and other text editors yeah

[regal bolt]

Okay. I'm gonna go back to my game. Thank you for the help Burn! ^^

[wispy burrow]

been reading a bit of Lua and some scripts already in Gamma to alter this small script from momopate
#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message
into something that fits my use

local interval = 10
local last = 0
local twohanded_list = {
    ["twohandy"] = ini_file("items\\settings\\twohandy_list.ltx")
}
;;Setting up filepath to twohandy_list.ltx for reference

function actor_on_update()
    if ((time_global() - last) > interval) then
        last = time_global()
        if (db.actor:active_item():section(), twohanded_list) then
            if not (db.actor:active_detector()) then
                return
            else
                db.actor:force_hide_detector()
            end
        end
    end
end
;;Checks after every set interval to see if active_item match the names in twohanded_list and force_hide_detector if it matches

function on_game_start()
    RegisterScriptCallback("actor_on_update", actor_on_update)
end

I haven't tested it yet but I would be grateful to receive comments on what I'm doing wrong 😅

[random fulcrum]

    ["twohandy"] = ini_file("items\\settings\\twohandy_list.ltx")
}```
this can be
```local twohanded_list = ini_file("items\\settings\\twohandy_list.ltx")```

[fossil snow]

hi is it ez to increase laser brightness or needs advanced knowledge?

[copper jewel]

which script file responsible for the chace of dropping money in dead bodies?

[naive snow]

Hey any of you know if we supply Grok with some gitrepo for our mods, will the gamma modpack install from there or only from a moddb page for updates?

[grizzled gorge]

Yes, you can leave it on git, just make sure you do the right path aka gamedata/folders... (users may have to check "forcegit" if they want to update your mod tho)

[naive snow]

Alright perfect, same as the optimization models then, thanks

[regal bolt]

Hey man. Remember the fix you helped me with yesterday? It fucked itself again, but now shows the other line as the damned error, and somehow o DX9 it works fine

[naive snow]

What's the new error?

[naive snow]

DX9 uses R2 as the shader base, so you'd use different .ps files altogether, hence why it works

[regal bolt]

Let me get the mods set up again and delete the og line and it will pop up

[regal bolt]

Can't I just copy over the R2 files to the R1 folder tho?

[naive snow]

Make sure you also delete shader cache between every reload of your tweaks

[naive snow]

Nah cause they're not meant to work with DX8

[regal bolt]

But they have literally the same code besides that one line, that as seen yesterday worked

[naive snow]

I think it goes something like R1 = DX8, R2=DX9, R3=DX10 & 11

[naive snow]

but there's bound to be other files in there that are not the same. Plus copying a single file won't actually change anything if they're the same

[regal bolt]

Then how is it that DX9 works and DX8 doesn't? DX8 doesn't support the same functions but m_hud_param is a function defined by one of the mods, not by the renderer

[naive snow]

I'm not an expert on graphic APIs but I can only guess that on DX9 some functions might be expecting more parameters or less than those defined for DX8. I haven't gutted Xray nearly enough to have a proper answer for you at this moment. If you can get a clean log after a shader cache delete tho I can help you debug somewhat

[regal bolt]

Forgot about the log. Here is the error message

compiling shader models_lfo_light_dot_weapons
! c:/anomaly/bin/..\appdata\shaders_cache\r1\models_lfo_light_dot_weapons.ps\0000100
! error: (3): error X3003: redefinition of 'm_hud_params'

[naive snow]

Lets move this to #🔨modded-gamma-support Probably something in your mod list is looking at scopes or something. Drop over there the exact mods you added and I'll have a look there

[surreal gust]

isn't r1 render dx9 but full static lighting?

[naive snow]

I think I messed up and it's actually R1 = DX8, R2=DX9, R3=DX10 and R4=DX11, cause I'm running DX11 and I only have a R4 folder in my cache

[surreal gust]

i know but dx8 is not dx8

its a lie made by coc devs

r1 is dx9 but almost completely static

this also explains why most if not all dx9 mods work with dx8

[onyx shadow]

i edited the hud position of saiga dushman but i can't apply it

i think im doing something wrong

[faint meteor]

I have ran into a weird issue. I had to deal with Item UI improvements gun scaling causing a LUA error. I replaced the weapon scaling script in that to not trip the error again, but now I am getting this error.

! [SCRIPT ERROR]: x:/anomaly\gamedata\scripts\ui_inventory.script:2106: attempt to index field 'ico' (a boolean value)

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CScriptEngine::lua_pcall_failed
[error]File : E:\Github\xray-monolith\src\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
[error]Line : 257
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments :
1 : [Lua] x:/anomaly\gamedata\scripts\ui_inventory.script(2106) : Picker_Toggle

LUA error: x:/anomaly\gamedata\scripts\ui_inventory.script:2106: attempt to index field 'ico' (a boolean value)

Check log for details

stack trace:

Any suggestions?

[undone lily]

Yes but R4 is DX11

[undone lily]

What’s the idea behind this ?

[wispy burrow]

it's a workaround of slot = 1 also forcing single_handed = 1 by forcing you to not be able to pull out detector when weapon with section name in a .ltx list is the active weapon

the above code however completely disable the ability to pull out detector however

I'm still looking into what I can change to fix that

I'm new to lua and lua in Stalker though so I don't really know if the method is correct

[forest sluice]

somebody know where the free look script is in the game files or how i could find it

[quick badge]

Hey! Anyone know where to modify satiety/thrist accumulation?

[forest sluice]

Thirst seems to be hardcoded in mod "G.A.M.M.A. Sleep Balance". But if you're new you might want to give the game a try the way it was intended to be played.

actor_status_thirst.script

[quick badge]

Might say new to gamma, not new to insanely modded anomaly. Gonna give it a try to see how fast I get thirsty. Didnt like it before and basically always had values halved. Thank you!

[subtle scroll]

I love the M3A1, is it already available as a standalone?

[uneven sable]

What winter mod for gamma you guys recommend ?

[versed wave]

where the fuck are ks-23 sounds are defined after mod_system_synced_sounds.ltx was nuked by Oleh's Weapons Sounds Tweaks and Fixes?

[fair inlet]

in the shotgun config

mod_system_weapon_sounds_wstfg_shotgun iirc

[versed wave]

thanks!

[forest sluice]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1118326896296480799

[summer hornet]

quick question where do i add items to stash loot pools?

[fair inlet]

See grok_treasure_manager, it's quite simple.
If you mean items new to gamma you also should also assign tier for them in items_tier iirc

[summer hornet]

just adding some items i added back to gamma to the stash pools also is there a way i can weight items to have them spawn on stalkers more often?

[fair inlet]

well you can just tweak the pools is death_items but it's tedious. I guess there should be some convenient injector.
I also know guaranteed_drops config, maybe you can make use of its functionality

[somber ember]

Hello, noob question, I recently been able to open some hd model ogf files through blender but it seems that in game these models have more detail/and colors can any one help me with how can I add or open them both to have the same colors and details?

Any help would be great

[summer hornet]

i think there is a plugin idk though haven't tried anything like that yet

[somber ember]

I can open them but they don't have colors and don't look the same.

[summer hornet]

post a pic

[somber ember]

These two are freedoms

[summer hornet]

did you also export the textures?

[somber ember]

How do you do this?

that would help

[summer hornet]

hmmm im not good at teaching lol so heres somthing i think might help you out a bit
https://youtu.be/mURA2g1rOSc?si=lVZpHHoaHmQy9KtK

another question i need to check if the changes i made work so how do i spawn a boat load of stashes?

[fair inlet]

I'm not aware of any specialized tool, but you can make some simple script using create_random_stash function
And you can always buy them from Sid or Spore, but you won't get north stashes this way

[summer hornet]

thanks time to get rich and spam stashes lol

[somber ember]

thanks

[summer hornet]

not sure if i did it right opened 100 stashes (it took waaay to long) and did not find any of the weapons i tried to add back into the game

[naive snow]

Make sure you have the Blender opening through your MO2, so your C:\Anomaly is properly virtualized with all of your mods. Then make sure you have the proper paths set up in your Blender Xray Addon, then when you import your .OGF, the textures will follow along

[dull crest]

hey i'm attempting to make some changes to a mod in the load order (328- Higher Rank NPCs Headlight Disabled - KraizerX), but for some reason that I can't figure out it won't work and pulls a Lua error, "attempt to index a nil value." This doesn't make sense to me because all I'm adding is for the script to base headlights off of faction rank instead. Can I get some help with this at all? I can send over the test file, but any help for a newb modder would be dope as hell

[somber ember]

how exactly can I get blender to run through mo2

[shy junco]

anyone know any good texture software

[naive snow]

In the drop down where you can chose anomaly launcher or whatever DX you want to launch with MO2, you can click edit in there and add a new entry. Pick your blender 3.6 and copy the settings from the other entries. Launch it through there

[somber ember]

Thanks I will try.

[grave notch]

is there a way to change the mag capacity of a specific gun in its game files? / how would you?

[open oasis]

do you mean like with Mags Redux?

[grave notch]

nah like just changing 30 to like 45 or 60 in a game file idk if thats a thing thats just a number change or something but like for example if i wanted to make a specific gun variant like the L85_m3 have 60 round capacity instead of 30 could i change its files to say that and it work?

[naive snow]

Sure. Just find it's .ltx file and change the ammo_mag_size and ammo_elapsed values to whatever

[somber ember]

it starts launching and gliches out and dose not finish running

[naive snow]

Did you fill out everything properly in the MO2 entry for it?

[somber ember]

thats my settings

is this correct

[naive snow]

Clear out the argument field

why did you use the entry for the virtual folder explorer

[somber ember]

I am a noob

It launched thanks

[open oasis]

@naive snow

The hud/world model part isn't as important anymore. I can pretty much run the weapon through my pipeline and spit out a decent polygon count model and textures for world models. Since the hud model will only ever be a single instance (since it's the one you hold) we can spare a bit more polygon on those. The bone hierarchy will always be a problem because naming convention across mods is almost non existent
_ _ - #1185796123575722084 message

can you elaborate upon this? what is "naming convention" (i assume the name of each bone/point?) and why is that an issue with hand rigs?

or did you mean actual weapon model names/attachments

because i might be an idiot for interpreting it in the former way

[naive snow]

No I meant the actual bone names and hierarchy. Every motion looks for the proper bone names to know which bone in the hierarchy to move. You also need the proper bones parented. Exemple, the bullets bones need to be under the magazine bone so they move with it when it's grabbed.

[open oasis]

and the mod creators decide how to name them?

[naive snow]

Pretty much. Like I de-fucked the bones from the G36 rwaps variants earlier for the magazines not appearing in the world model in #1180329195600105555

[open oasis]

how many bones can one of these animations have?

[naive snow]

I haven't delved too deeply into _hud models, but I've seen upwards of 25

[open oasis]

and can the issue not be addressed with something like the Notepad++ function where you go "find all X in file(s) and rename them to what i need"

or is it more complex than that

to like address the issues with the BaS rigs

[naive snow]

.ogf and .osf and such need special programs to edit/read block chunks in the files

[vale knot]

I love proprietary file formats!

[naive snow]

I honestly haven't played around with hand models and how the motion animation picks the right bone to move, but I'm guessing it's part of the motion and the engine just picks from the Hud model whatever the bone name is

You could semi-automate the renaming process, but that's importing every model, picking apart the armature, renaming/placing the bones. Re-export. And that's for each _hud model. Weapons have a _hud model for every possible scope they can have. Meaning you can have 16+ files to correct for a single gun

[open oasis]

yikes

that's good to know though i have been interested in maybe making some animations for some items but don't really know where to start

sounds like a can of worms i wouldn't necessarily want to open lol

[naive snow]

Indeed. Yikes. Tho you could make a script to duplicate armatures and slap them on from models to models for a quicker workflow. It's how I do a part of my automation

As long as items have the proper bone setup it should be fairly simple

There's plenty of models and animations already done. If you want to dabble in blender a bit you could get the general idea of how it's done

[vale knot]

Last time i made a mod in blender it took me 2 hours to add tritium to the five seven

And the worst part is i lost that mod

[naive snow]

Pavel's blender addon is so much easier to work with than the sdk tool sets for maya that are deprecated

[vale knot]

The fiveseven we have now looks much nicer anyway

[naive snow]

Did you just strip the tritium sight from another gun?

[vale knot]

Nah i made the mesh from scratch

Ie: 3 cylinders

[naive snow]

Did you have to make lightplanes?

[vale knot]

I basically reverse engineered how ppp did it

[naive snow]

I haven't messed around with those yet

[vale knot]

Yeah the shader is lightpanes iirc

And you make the texture the color tou want

More transparency = dimmer tritium

I like my tritium dim, like the new beretta for example

[naive snow]

I need to incorporate this shit into the simplification pipeline but I'm honestly afraid of breaking the monkey coded script with this

[vale knot]

To further this i also made the texture a circle thats brighter in the center and fades out near the edges to make it a little more nice looking than just a flat coloe

Lemme see if i can dig up the pic

[open oasis]

where would i begin?

[vale knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802325785436356678/1079305829896949760/ss_christian_abrams_02-26-23_02-35-48_fake_start.png?ex=659119e2&is=657ea4e2&hm=fb485cb5e6a82c1904389f031ce627addd8e3cfeb28a1fd0c4915e740d93cb8a&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802325785436356678/1079317302052388965/image-146.png?ex=65912491&is=657eaf91&hm=2ccdf48ef6a01e71b4e55ae64811197ef0094c0934d22ddb496b7bacd8fd26ab&

[slow bolt]

same. took me 2 hours or even more to line up a water bottle to a canteen animation

[naive snow]

Nice little falloff, good work

[vale knot]

Unfortunately i lost this mod

One of the ones i forgot to save when moving to new ssd

[naive snow]

Depends. What do you want to do?

[naive snow]

Now that you know, make it back

[open oasis]

i've been thinking of completing the FDDA animations to where everything has an animation rather than plain camera movement, as in items and actions that don't have any models associated with them yet

[vale knot]

The new five seven we got is finee

Not needed tbh

Lemme take a quick look for it

[naive snow]

You could have a look at how the other animations for those are done. Import some motions and see how it works. Like the food stuff and whatnot. I'm afraid of messing with FDDA because it's the leading cause of busy hands

[open oasis]

so would i need to download Blender and import the files into it? how would i learn the controls and how to "record" my animation and move the models efficiently?

[vale knot]

nah that shit gone

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gone-reduced-to-atoms-end-game-infinity-war-gif-15573921

[naive snow]

There's plenty of videos on YouTube about how to animate in Blender. For Blender I'd recommend version 3.6 and you need PavelsBlend xray addon to work with xray's engine files

[slow bolt]

well if anims are done like other FDDA items - not much to be afraid

[naive snow]

True. I'm just not a 100% if like sound files, they work with timing comments to tell the engine specific cue times.

[slow bolt]

sound files? you can add comments to tell the engine what to do, but since only you are supposed to hear that - they are not needed

[naive snow]

I guess the thing left to know is if animations keyframes are baked down to everyframe or if interpolation and key weighting is handled in engine.

[open oasis]

i believe those comments work based on frames or ticks in the animation

i recall messing with that in CoP

[slow bolt]

welp that is above me

All that is needed for FDDA is someone who can animate. I bet models can be easily found

like i myself want to animate simply because that is severely lacking

[naive snow]

Do you know if the current arm models have a rig file or an IK chain?

Because animation without a proper rig is painful

[slow bolt]

definitely have a rig

but yeah i know barely anything about animating

i know basics

[static nebula]

pretty sure it's baked down

[naive snow]

Oh yeah didn't you do the reanimation project for the sr2?

[static nebula]

yeah, the Saiga too

[naive snow]

Think you could give some tips to klip to start off animating for fdda or how weapon rigs kind of work?

Are the animations done per weapon and do they simply pick bones based on name?

[static nebula]

wdym by pick bones based on name? 🤔

[naive snow]

As in, does the animation file contain both the bones to animate the hud model and the arms or is the file only animating sockets to which the bones get parented and moved according to name? (I have no idea how the animation system of xray works)

[atomic cloud]

I have no clue what im doing but i finally managed to break the boars, i made all the boars like this, im accomplished

[open oasis]

i have seen Synd1cate's stuff, it's rly good

[obsidian void]

Hey does anyone know if there's some kind of mod or fix for drag and drop crafting to correctly use multiuse items? Currently for example, if you drag and drop a multiuse bottle of vodka on cloth for a bandage then the entire bottle gets consumed.

Alternatively, can someone point me to the script which handles the drag and drop crafting?

[static nebula]

im not knowledgable enough to answer questions like that honestly 😅

[open oasis]

rip lmao

idk i might just download Blender and mess around by myself when i get back home

[grizzled gorge]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/151-banjajis-crafting-system-improvements Try DM Banjaji ?

[wanton topaz]

Is there anyone in here who knows about Map Making for GAMMA? I’m considering making a map but could do with chatting/msging someone who knows about the process first.

[grizzled gorge]

@surreal gust or @xcvb_ on anomaly discord

[wanton topaz]

Thank you.

[wanton topaz]

Ugh- I’m getting that “Done reading? Check out Bots” in Anomaly Discord? How to remove that and type please?

[surreal gust]

You need to go to #bots channel

and type .rank stalker

[wanton topaz]

Ah thank you. Actually, you were recommend to chat with about map making. Do you know anything about the process for Stalker and would fancy a chat/PM sometime if so?

[surreal gust]

Yes I do know how to make a map for anomaly

[wanton topaz]

I’m considering making one myself. I work in the games indus as an artist so have experience- BUT no idea in regards the Stalker methodology. Would you be free to discuss sometime? i understand if not of course.

[surreal gust]

I can link you an ukraininan video that explains how to make a map for call of pripyat

including terrain

terrain texturing

and more

[wanton topaz]

In Ukrainian language?

[surreal gust]

just remember to put the subtitles in english

they are auto translated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpQbhIPNKTM

[wanton topaz]

Ah ok cheers- does it explain everything etc or leave loads for you to find out yourself?

[surreal gust]

Autodesk was used for modeling the terrain

Either way blender will work fine

[surreal gust]

pretty much everything

including how to texture the terrain

how to set different materials

after you're done with that i'd also recommend his channel

[wanton topaz]

I have made a LOAD of my own models too btw- buildings etc.

[surreal gust]

on how to make ai work properly

This is the guide for porting a level to anomaly

Not made by me

[wanton topaz]

How would you describe the process..? Is it very difficult-awkward or pretty smooth and streamlined if that makes sense?

[surreal gust]

This text guide isn't explained perfectly

[wanton topaz]

This would primarily be made for GAMMA but I take it that means it has to go via Anomaly anyway yes?

[surreal gust]

But I will help you when I can

[surreal gust]

GAMMA is a modpack for anomaly

[wanton topaz]

Appreciated.

[surreal gust]

You may get a crash for .ltx file reasons

But they are easy to fix

[wanton topaz]

If possible, what would you say the timeframe is for making a level about the size of Zaton?

[surreal gust]

You will need this to merge the spawns together so that it works properly for anomaly

[surreal gust]

Stalker levels are measured in real life size

so 800x800 long terrain from Blender exported to SDK

It will be 800 meters long

Firstly, watch the video and after you're done make sure it works for call of pripyat

Then after that watch his other videos on what you need

And then read the guide from here

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/

At 16.1 is where the modding tools are listed

This includes the SDK

[wanton topaz]

Ok will do. Once I’ve seen them I’ll have to decide wether I’ll have the time needed for this really. Could you say roughly how long a map like Zaton would take someone?

[random fulcrum]

port doom's e1m1 to stalker anomaly

[surreal gust]

Make sure the SDK you download is 0.7 version or modified 0.7 version

Anything below that will not work

[wanton topaz]

Could you say roughly how long a map like Zaton would take someone?

Just as a rough guide?

[surreal gust]

to make?

[wanton topaz]

Yes

[surreal gust]

I don't know honestly

It could probably take months

[wanton topaz]

What maps have you made/are making?

[surreal gust]

I'm making one which is already work in progress

I'm just testing the terrain mostly

[wanton topaz]

Promzone?

[surreal gust]

Nope I'm making my own

[wanton topaz]

Ah ok

[surreal gust]

Why would I use an existing map made by some team lol?

[wanton topaz]

Could use something like Gaea to do a Terrain?

[wanton topaz]

Sorry- I thought it might have been your map.

[surreal gust]

I only used blender

I generated the terrain using A.N.T landscape

[wanton topaz]

Ah ok

[surreal gust]

And heavily modified it using sculpting

Some terrain pics

These are from the last time I touched the map

About 5 days ago

[wanton topaz]

Nice..! Good to see that..!!

[surreal gust]

The terrain itself is about 130k polygons

Since I want to avoid the blocky edges

that you would get without smoothing it

[wanton topaz]

Is there an ideal- say like 1x1 meter per poly for Terrain or something?

[surreal gust]

I dunno much about Blender

[wanton topaz]

Ingame I mean

[surreal gust]

What do you mean

[wanton topaz]

https://www.artstation.com/meshcarver

[surreal gust]

By materials?

[wanton topaz]

No, so each poly of the terrain equals 1x1 meter. Is there a guide how big to make each poly?

[surreal gust]

I don't know if there is one.

[wanton topaz]

Ok- normally 1x1 meter is a nice base to start with.

[surreal gust]

I really hope to finish my map

Every day when I progress I just feel like the terrain isn't good enough or done yet

The hardest part is the AI

[wanton topaz]

Yeah- keep going with it. Ask others about the AI maybe?

[surreal gust]

Since you have to config every smart terrain .ltx to your liking

I know how to the ai

It's not really easy

[wanton topaz]

So it involves coding sort of too?

[surreal gust]

Not at all

To make ai functional

You need an AI map (navmesh copy)

[wanton topaz]

Ah ok

[surreal gust]

Smart terrains (for gameplay reasons)

Graph points (where npcs travel to another location when inside or outside of online state and for travelling to another graph point when offline)

Way points (used for telling what should npcs do, like patrols)

Smart covers (animations used mainly in bars)

Not all of these are required

But if you want to make ai work properly then you need to do these

[wanton topaz]

So making the map visually- placing trees and buildings etc is fairly easy. BUT, doing the AI side of things is the really difficult part? Is that correct?

[wanton topaz]

Either way- thanks for taking the time to explain mate, really appreciate it.

[surreal gust]

Yes

Also if you added a lot of objects in an existing AI map

[wanton topaz]

I’ll go thru the vids and see what I think.

[surreal gust]

Rebuild the ai map again

since the ai map is where npcs can move

To add a node you need to use the "Add" button

And click generate full on the sdk

Make sure you have created a snap list for the terrain

[wanton topaz]

Ah- that video only has Russian generated Captions

[surreal gust]

You can click the "Auto-translate" button

And select english

[wanton topaz]

Ah ok..!

[naive snow]

@open oasis So I dug a bit, you only really need to import a set of arms, and an .omf (select the motion you want) and you can start disecting the animations.
Ex: the coffee drinking animation on a pair ofarms
Some animations also have a camera movement animation packgaged as .anm

[open oasis]

oof this looks complicated

even more so for a non-native speaker, i don't even know what a "clavicle" is lmfao

[naive snow]

Just image bones as a skeleton really

[naive snow]

It's just the collar bone FYI

Maybe this display will be better. FYI bones are kinda wonky in their display maner with Xray and blender

[surreal gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5STEQNcbeA

damn

[slow bolt]

You can ignore the camera Animarion and use the existing one

[obsidian void]

Woah. This is amazing. Dude is leaving gammas crafting system in the dust

[static nebula]

fyi, if you plan to create new animations it's better to use a rig than the in-game arms

[naive snow]

Do you know where the rigs are?

[static nebula]

there's a couple pinned in the modding arts channel in the anomaly server, i can send the one i use if you like

[naive snow]

I'll check those out later

[somber ember]

I cannot get the gamedata folder to open It says

And the same for some other ones

[naive snow]

How are your paths lookin in the addon?

[naive snow]

You didn't fill out any of the paths, that's why

[naive snow]

You probably should also pick the actual anomaly fsgame.ltx file in the anomaly folder instead of moving stuff to your desktop too

[somber ember]

ok

But when I select my fs ltx file it says " Error ltx file has no parameter $objects$"

[slow bolt]

Use mo2 and launch blender through it

[somber ember]

I launched it through blender this whole time but still no difference

[naive snow]

Yeah it simply means that your fsltx file doesn't have an entry, populate the paths like I showed you with mine

[somber ember]

I am a noob, so this just means write everything like on yours correct?

[naive snow]

Click on the folder icon, then on the cog next to it and find the same folders and shaders in your anomaly. You can use mine as a reference

[somber ember]

cog?

[naive snow]

For the shaders, if you don't have the SDK 0.7 installed you'll have to grab those from the _unpacked folder of your anomaly. Meaning you have to go to C:\Anomaly\Tools and run "db_unpacker_all.bat"
This will create a _unpacked folder in the same place. What I advise you is to move the content of that folder to a new mod (create an empty folder, name it how you want in your C:\Gamma\mods) create a "gamedata" folder there and move the content of your _unpacked folder in there. Refresh your MO2 and enable that new mod. Relaunch blender and now when you select your paths you should have all the required folders

Make sure to turn off that newly created mod when you actually launch the game

These are the shaders

[somber ember]

it stayed the same

[naive snow]

You have to enter the paths yourself by clicking on the folder

[somber ember]

what do i pick for ltx because it still says Error ltx file has no parameter $objects$

Me noob

[naive snow]

Just leave it as is, the fs ltx only points to the other paths. It's meant to fill the other fields for you

Fill out the red fields

[somber ember]

filled in one and this happned so what do i do for engine shaders and compile shaders file

[naive snow]

Now do the whole step I mentioned here for the other 3 things #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[somber ember]

I already done it

[naive snow]

Then go fetch the correct shader files like I have in mine(check the names and find yours

[somber ember]

ok

[naive snow]

They should be at the root of your Gamedata folder

[somber ember]

can't find the engine and compile shaders file

😭

help

[naive snow]

You did move the _unpack folder content to a mod, enabled it in your mo2 and restarted Blender right?

[somber ember]

yes

[naive snow]

Can you find the files in your mo2 hierarchy?

[somber ember]

blender is the one

[naive snow]

Did you put everything in a Gamedata folder?

That red x means you didn't

[somber ember]

gamedata folder?

how

[naive snow]

Just create an empty folder named Gamedata at the root of your blender mod

Shove the other folder in there

[somber ember]

what other folder

[naive snow]

The content of the _unpacked

[somber ember]

this is how it looks

and lastly

is this how it suposed to look like

[naive snow]

Now refresh your MO2, the red x should be gone

Relaunch blender and you should be able to find them now

[somber ember]

ok

worked like a charm

now i can open ogf files and the textures and colors will folow along right

?

[naive snow]

Set your object folder, it's inside of the gamedata/meshes folder

[somber ember]

ok

[naive snow]

But yes you should be able to import models now with textures

[somber ember]

this is what i get when i import a ogf file

still no colors and texture

[naive snow]

Which file is this?

Did you enable textures in your viewport too?

[somber ember]

ogf

[naive snow]

I meant the Path of the file

[somber ember]

Actors - Stalker_dolg -

this is when i click on it

[naive snow]

Pink means you're missing a texture

Which one of the dolg?

[somber ember]

1.ogf

[naive snow]

If you have the right paths, you should have this:

[somber ember]

how

[naive snow]

Are your paths still properly set and you're still running the blender mod yeah?

[river fjord]

🥹 why the fuck do you have anything related to blender in mo2

[naive snow]

Its how he named the _unpacked DB folder for the right virtualization of his Anomaly content

[naive snow]

From this I'm guessing you you installed your Anomaly game in your C:\User\olegl\Documents\ correct?

[somber ember]

I moved it their

yep

[naive snow]

Can you find act_stalker_dolg_1.dds in your files of MO2?

[somber ember]

no

[naive snow]

Can you look in the files of your Blender mod, if it's there

[somber ember]

like this

[naive snow]

In the Blender mod you created:

Mine is named Anomaly unpacked Models

[naive snow]

When you say you moved it there, did you follow all of the moving steps from: ? #╭📖faq message

Or did you just move the folder and thats it?

[somber ember]

moved folder and that it but

thats what i found through files

[naive snow]

Well if you only moved the folder you probably fucked up your whole MO2 and thats why the paths are broken

[somber ember]

so I restart everything

basicly

[naive snow]

No just follow the #╭📖faq message

Move your Anomaly and Gamma properly

You can probably skip the deletion of your Mods folder inside of Gamma, just delete the mod organiser .ini and reset the path of your MO2 through the Gamma launcher

Why did you even move it in the first place?

[somber ember]

I only moved my anomaly folder to documents and thats it

I did not move my gamma

[naive snow]

Yeah moving the anomaly folder will break MO2

MO2 is still trying to path everything to your previous location, it's messing up the internal paths of blender too probably

So do the Steps for Moving Anomaly and do the Last steps in the third section (the gamma launcher stuff)

[somber ember]

ok will do it later and tell you when I am done thank you so much for the help so far

🫡

[naive snow]

Dont give up

[turbid lily]

Is there a larger version of the indicators for Cr3ips icons?

[half coyote]

Am sorry to ping you out of the blue but i could use your help with your nvg mod. Put simple everytime i turn on the nvgs i may as well use a flashlight i have tried messing with the settings for the mod i have turn the shaders off and then back on the only thing i havent done was delete the shader cache. If you dont mind i could use your help thank you.@mystic solstice

[naive snow]

You should rather ask in #🔨base-gamma-support first before pinging a modder directly, especially if it's a mod part of vanilla gamma

[somber ember]

It did not change still not texture and not colors

Don't kow what to do now

[naive snow]

Do you see the texture in your mo2?

If not that means the link from moving your Anomaly is still broken

[somber ember]

some

[naive snow]

Those are the meshes, what about the texture?

[naive snow]

And if you launch blender now, can you import a model correctly?

[somber ember]

i don't think so but this is what i get when i import a model

[naive snow]

Hmmmm and are your paths still going and pointing to the moved Anomaly folder?

[naive snow]

Try setting a FS Ltx file, find the one from anomaly

Use the one from your Anomaly folder and set back every other folder manually like you did previously

[somber ember]

were can i find one Gamedata?

[naive snow]

Yeah or the folder above it in the Anomaly folder

[somber ember]

can't seem to find one

[naive snow]

Mine was here
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/967696698065436682/1186379845941330072/image.png?ex=65930955&is=65809455&hm=ad8788b002fbc315e1351014c41cf64409794e5ab28ba90e98d45f7203b66aff&

[somber ember]

I don't think i have a fs ltx file

[naive snow]

Here's mine, place it in your anomaly folder

[somber ember]

I found it but thanks anyway

just now

[naive snow]

Where was it?

[somber ember]

it was their i just missed it

but know as i put it in

[naive snow]

Rename it and reassign the folders properly

[somber ember]

rename it differently?

not fsgame

[naive snow]

Well the name it's supposed to be, not fsgame - Copy.ltx

just fsgame.ltx

[somber ember]

ok

still the same thing

should I reinstall gamma, anomly, blender, and the pluging and restart?

Or is their something that I am missing

?

[naive snow]

Yeah thats normal, you still need the fill in your FS LTX file. Just like that, now fill in every other path like you did previously

[somber ember]

When i select lets say the gamedata folder the error pops out and dose not fill it out

[naive snow]

Which version of blender are you running?

[somber ember]

blender 2.8

[naive snow]

Could be worth updating, I'm on 3.6

[somber ember]

Ok I will do that

[naive snow]

If all else fails, delete and reinstall anomaly and gamma. Otherwise you'll have to reassign every single texture by hand

[somber ember]

ok

[somber ember]

same thing

[naive snow]

Can you not enter the paths?

[static nebula]

what error is it giving?

[naive snow]

It's just about the fsltx missing an entry for $objects$

[static nebula]

ah

[naive snow]

He should still be able to define the paths for the various folders. Thing is, he moved his whole Anomaly folder, so MO2 is kinda fucking around at the moment so it might be bad virtualization of the paths

Could be the fact that he moved his Anomaly to his Documents folder, windows isn't liking that path or something

[static nebula]

honestly unless they're working with like a hundred different models i would just set up the textures manually as opposed to going through the trouble of reinstalling or whatnot 😅

[static nebula]

very well could be it, i recall a while ago that someone was having issues with their installation because the file paths were just too long for windows to handle

[naive snow]

But the import will fuck up since he doesn't have the shader files either, the whole shader, compile and material option will also need to be filled out manually

Generally it's just a pain

Windows shouldn't be encountering path problems due to character limitation before 263 characters or something. My Documents tho might have blockers in place with path virtualization

Anyhow

[somber ember]

I got it to work

[random fulcrum]

Stephua Purpleface

[somber ember]

yep

[naive snow]

What did you do differently?

[somber ember]

I first filled out the game data and the rest and at last i did the fs ltx

[somber ember]

Thank you for your time and your help

[naive snow]

No problem, have fun with your project

[strange mesa]

Is there any built in real timer performance profiler for this people use? I want to watch in runtime what is taking up what proportion of ms for the games update loop.

In this channel becuse its for making a mod.

[random fulcrum]

rs_stats

problem is that it spits out EVERYTHING

[strange mesa]

Ok thanks

[somber ember]

🫡

[limpid geyser]

I'm trying to fix up the 5.45 Nimble Groza so it actually has the proper Groza fire sounds the base version uses.
There're like 3 different config files for groza in Gamma mods

Ig I just edit whatever's higher priority

[fair inlet]

fix? I did that intentionally
See mod_system_z_weapon_sounds_wstfg_ar_wp

[regal bolt]

Can someone fix the Knot degrading in % when using normal map transitions, it loses like 3% each time

considering that advance time during transition of maps is disabled.......

[limpid geyser]

Hey, thanks a bunch. I didn't know about that config.
aks74u sounds icky to me

[fair inlet]

yeah they are getting replaced next update, new ones are not great but still better I guess

[surreal gust]

Also one last detail I forgot.

In the spawn merge tool

When you open it there are 2 files

configs and spawns

They are empty.

Make sure to unpack the configs file from anomaly db folder (not gamma)

And put it there in the configs folder

And unpack the spawns too

Take the all.spawn file and put it in the spawns folder

Otherwise it will not work

[wanton topaz]

Cheers man..! So many things to consider..!

[surreal gust]

Also at anomaly server

meatchunk and thundervision are experienced mappers

[edgy belfry]

I need some help please. I want to just change the size of the cz52 because it is fucking tiny compared to how it should be so should i use blender? How do I go about changing the size of a weapon model?

[naive snow]

You'll need to edit the .ogf with blender and modify all of the corresponding models and armatures. Probably tweak the animations to fit the new size too

[edgy belfry]

Thank you, sounds a lot more complicated than I thought

[regal bolt]

Not really a mod, but making a spreadsheet. Haven't done much yet, just set it up. Thing is, I don't know all of this info off the top of my head and getting it all at once can be a pain in the ass.

If anyone (who plays with BLACK MARKET enabled) would like to contribute, let me know. Think this could be a handy guide.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMYqpEt3Zc7xIS7Qfb4rl4hoqtKHNmw4x8WDHrSrLHM/edit?usp=sharing

[misty mulch]

orrrr you could just read off the config files in that mod, e.g. black market mod folder\gamedata\configs\items\trade\presets

[regal bolt]

i managed to find the info in \gamedata\scripts (dialog_blackmarket.script) but it doesnt have the actual names of the traders. i think i'll be able to work with it though

[misty mulch]

yeah ["jup_b6_scientist_nuclear_physicist"] this is the name of the trader's squad

for example esc_2_12_stalker_trader is almost certainly either loris or xenotech because "escape" is the name for Cordon and "stalker" = loner

[regal bolt]

i think its Loris since xenotech isnt a black market guy

i do remember talking to Loris and he refuses to trade guns so this lines up

[misty mulch]

other traders are either randomly named or straight up have their set names in that dialog file

[misty mulch]

found it btw. if you simply search the file configs/text/eng/st_characters.xml (either from unpacked game files or GMTOP i guess) for the strings e.g. esc_main_base_trader_mlr you'll find their names

not 100% guaranteed esp for the randomly spawned ones

but it'll get you close

[regal bolt]

i found a more ghetto solution of going in-game, turning on map debug, and mousing over the trader squads on the map

[misty mulch]

really the trick is using something like notepad++ find in files feature

[misty mulch]

did you get them all? because i have the full list of names

[misty mulch]

dialogs_table = {
    Sidorovich (Cordon)        = "blackmarket_no",
    Loris (Cordon)            = "blackmarket_no",
    Flea Market traders        = "blackmarket_no",
    Butcher (Garbage)        = "blackmarket_no",
    Prof. Hermann (Jupiter)        = "blackmarket_eco_3",
    Prof Sakharov (Yantar)            = "blackmarket_eco_1",
    Dushman (Dead City)        = "blackmarket_any_1",
    Meeker (Outskirts)        = "blackmarket_any_2",
    Krolik (Outskirts)        = "blackmarket_any_2",
    Stribog (Red Forest)        = "blackmarket_any_1",
    Vector (Zaton)            = "blackmarket_any_3",
    Olivar (Outskirts)        = "blackmarket_any_3",
    Olivius (Dark Valley)        = "blackmarket_wp_1",
    Cutter (Darkscape)        = "blackmarket_wp_1",
    Flea Market traders (night)    = "blackmarket_wp_1",
    Truck Cemetary Bandit Trader    = "blackmarket_wp_2",
    Gen. Petrenko (Rostok)        = "blackmarket_wp_2",
    Major Zhurov (Cordon)        = "blackmarket_wp_2",
    Forester (Red Forest)        = "blackmarket_wp_3",
    Klenov (Jupiter)        = "blackmarket_wp_3",
    Sergeant Spooner (Agroprom)    = "blackmarket_wp_3",
    Cashier (Outskirts)        = "blackmarket_wp_3",
    Nimble (Zaton)            = "blackmarket_wp_3",
    Spore (Great Swamp)        = "blackmarket_nato_1",
    Skinflint (Army Warehouses)    = "blackmarket_nato_2",
    Ashot (Jupiter)            = "blackmarket_nato_3",
    Major Hernandez (Jupiter)    = "blackmarket_nato_3",
    Major Hernandez (Darkscape)    = "blackmarket_nato_3",
    Owl (Zaton)            = "blackmarket_nato_3",
}

[naive dew]

anyone know why certain sound effects (disassembling items, repairing equipment, opening/closing artifact boxes, etc) are all using generic sounds instead of their specific sfx?

[regal bolt]

had to afk for a bit thanks, gonna fill these in to the spreadsheet

[regal bolt]

theres a 4th type of blackmarket on this list im not too sure about

nato
wp
any (nato+wp of course)
eco

eco im unsure what that actually implies

im guessing they sell armors but no guns

but i'll have to confirm in game

[misty mulch]

this is where you go diving into the script

[misty mulch]

go read the gamedata/configs/text/eng/st_dialogs_blackmarket.xml file

[regal bolt]

ah thanks, i'll note that they buy NATO but don't sell

[misty mulch]

and if you want the specific tiers, seems like they're in configs/items/trade/presets/blackmarket_trade_presets.ltx - it also includes weapon buy and sell presets

[naive snow]

@simple scaffold is the math for icon rotation for when items are equipped fully done in the aaa_rax_icon_override_mcm ? Utjan pointed me to look at Maid's icons to try and figure out why silencers get a slight X offset when held vertically in the equipment slot vs when in the inventory horizontally

[simple scaffold]

icon overide fixes the placement of the silencers when the gun is rotated. a bug in vanila that get worse the wider your monitor.

utjan tested with icon overide installed

[naive snow]

I'm seeing some changes of the 11 december vs the 18 october version on the Rot mat, Maid's uses the 18 oct version

[open oasis]

hey, i haven't read the rest of the conversation, only noticed the link: this is not the complete mission, right? some of the info is wrong

[regal bolt]

finishing it up rn

[open oasis]

the trader at Flea Market does eventually sell Warsaw weapons

so "Nogunz!" there (which i assume is for traders who don't sell guns?) is wrong

the day trader i mean

[regal bolt]

I have one entry for day and one for night

[simple scaffold]

oh, yeah use the newer version. always. (now i'm wondering how i didn't get the 11dec update onto my github. send me that pls, my PC is trying to set itself on fire so i can't get at my modding files)

[open oasis]

yeah so the day one is set to "Nogunz!"

he does sell guns if you raise his supply level

the guy who sits at the top floor

[regal bolt]

even in the day?

[open oasis]

yeah i have never gone there at night, i'll post a screenshot for you

[regal bolt]

kk

[naive snow]

This is the one from the Moddb page

[simple scaffold]

i had do do a lot of work with that. the rotation math is hard because there are two sets of coordinate transforms involved and some of the math has to happen in one system and some in the other. i got it wrong a few times

[naive snow]

With both version of the file on a 16:9 ratio the offset still seems to be off

Wondering if I can just punch in a cheeky -2 on the new x value, do it reallll dirty

[open oasis]

actually hang on @regal bolt

is the night trader the one who sleeps inside the little shack during the day?

[regal bolt]

i think so

[open oasis]

the day one up top doesn't sell weapons but the one who's sleeping at the bottom does

that's what i meant

i can talk to him during the day

[regal bolt]

coul you give me the name of each one?

[open oasis]

the names are random Loner names i believe

[regal bolt]

ah ok

[open oasis]

i might be wrong

[regal bolt]

i'll check what they are in my save

[open oasis]

the day one was named Dmitro Paddle and the night one was named Nik Rusty

those sound like typical generated Stalker names

[regal bolt]

yeah ok the guy up top in my saved is Yurik Bug-eyed

[open oasis]

just to demonstrate this does works, i don't know if i'm meant to be able to talk to him during the day, i have the "No trade with random stalkers" mod off

it's 4pm in the recording

but i don't think it's Tier 1 selling?

[simple scaffold]

what does it look like without utjan's mod?

[naive snow]

This is with it off

[regal bolt]

both of those weapons in your menu with him are indeed only tier 1

and warsaw

so i think its correct at the moment

i wish there was a less confusing way to list them but i'll stick with day and night for now

[open oasis]

oh does Tier reference the weapons themselves? i thought it was a different term to say "Supply level"

[regal bolt]

with the black market mod, guns are categorized in to tier 1, 2, and 3, ascending in value

[open oasis]

ohhh my bad

i misunderstood then

[regal bolt]

so like an AKM or a basic TOZ is a tier 1

[open oasis]

i thought you mean which supply level unlocks selling guns

[regal bolt]

and a vector smg would be a tier 3

[simple scaffold]

any chance you feel like makeing a gun icon that is a grid and scope that is just a rectangle? i think the rotated might be off in both directions. being able to visualize it easier would help. (i have no gamming PC right now. so i can't do any of this myself)

[naive snow]

Sure, let me finish some other work real quick and I'll get you some .dds for it

[simple scaffold]

i can't run the game, computer fills the room with burning plastic smells when i turn it on. you will have to edit maids addon to use those dds for the gun you are testing. and test it on your comp. Like i can help. i just can't actualy do anything directly myself

[naive snow]

Yeah no worries I'm comfortable doing that. I'm not actually running Maid's icon, just whatever is in base GAMMA so that'd be the December version from Tiskar's

[open oasis]

(base GAMMA is Cr3pis' i believe)

[naive snow]

No I meant the actual aaa_rax_icon_override script is from Tiskar's, the icons

[simple scaffold]

I have old grok to get rid of the version without the _mcm it is out of date should not be used

They are probably fighting that might be your problem

[naive snow]

The other without _mcm is an empty script file

[naive snow]

There we go

The vertical silencer sits "lower on the center line" by 1~2 pixels, it's just enough to off center some of the thin silencers

Here so it's easier to see

[random fulcrum]

THE LED RIFLE

[simple scaffold]

so the scalling is fixed. (gun isn't streched) (i assume you are not running 4:3 screen ratio)

and the problem seems to only be in one axis. interesting

[naive snow]

I haven't tested yet with scopes but I suppose they'd be subject to the same thing? Unless it's the actual icon of the gun that sits higher itself

Yep scope too, you can see the white peaking overthe ekp 8-18

So it seems to be the actual gun icon that is shifted 2 pixels to the left when equipped

[simple scaffold]

get rid of both of the icon overide scripts here. put this one in: https://github.com/RAX-Anomaly/MagsRedux/blob/main/wuuts_icons/gamedata/scripts/aaa_rax_icon_override_mcm.script

[naive snow]

Still a problem

Can't easily remove the non-mcm verson, because 3 other mods write to it in GAMMA

Unless MO2 lets you specify a file to consider as "deleted"

Ah actually you can hide a file

[simple scaffold]

yeah just keep hiding it. until it isn't getting put in

i messed up my dating. there are two 11oct versions of the file. one is actualy 25jan

[naive snow]

Nay, same thing

[simple scaffold]

what happens with no icon_overide at all?

[gritty lichen]

can someone give me a pointer as to which files I should look for if I want to edit the starting loadouts?

nvm, found the loadouts addon

[naive snow]

Same thing? Which is puzzling

I'm wondering if it's not that icon rotation fix thing

[simple scaffold]

geb the icon rotation fix script.

[naive snow]

So the sight seems better, albeit a bit higher on the Y, but the X seems good. The Silenecr tho is fully off

Also gun is now stretched

[simple scaffold]

send me that script? pls. it is doing something similar to icon override, and probably breaking icon override while it is at it.

not that icon override is perfict. i am now 90% sure i aceditenly reverted a bunch of changes or never put them to the github.

fortunately i have notes i will need to fix it. just not a working comp to test it on when i do

[naive snow]

just remove the .mohidden at the end

The rotation stuff is different, doing some funky number stuff

[simple scaffold]

yeah, but that's from my final version of icon_overide. this is literaly just the rotation and ratio fixing parts of icon override.

or it was. they made some changes. i need to figure out if any of that would shift attachemetns

[simple scaffold]

there are two instances of * 1.02 delete them and reenable that script.

[naive snow]

[simple scaffold]

that script will make icon_overide not work when the icon size is changed.

[naive snow]

Heck yeah, paydirt. Well fucking done

[simple scaffold]

yeah someone was playing with math they did not understand

[naive snow]

So it would mess with Utjan's stuff?

[simple scaffold]

not the newest versions. he scales the texture but doesn't change the item cell dimensions.

by size I ment that, the number of cells it takes up. like how many bandages it is wide or tall. if someone changes that with icon_override this script will break that.

but as long as all that is changed is the icon it will work.

[naive snow]

It does feel like it's squishing the weapon in the inventory weirdly

[simple scaffold]

some of maids icons change the cell size and might have this problem.

[naive snow]

So for now I'll propose the removal of the two values you mentionned, should the script be removed in favor of yours?

[simple scaffold]

it gets a bit smaller. when you add a scope that goes off the edge like this one. so that the scope stays in the cell.

[naive snow]

Yeah but it feels like it's only squishing on the X axis, not the Y

But I might be insane

Okay no it does scale on the Y too

[simple scaffold]

too small a change to tell. i'd lean toward utjan not making that mistake. particuarly since i know it can scale a 1x3 icon to fit in a 1x2 cell wtihout making it look squished

[slow bolt]

Red symbolises your degrading mental state?

[naive snow]

So we should keep both your script active (even tho it seems inactive or overriden) and that utils_ui_icon_rotation_fix_mcm.script with the corrected values?

[naive snow]

I have been looking at weapons for far too long

[hybrid forum]

I unironically like this. Is this just to keep the game from crashing while you work on the model or something?

[simple scaffold]

remove those numbers in that script it can stay for ppl that don't use icon overide for now. i will cook up a compatablity fix. also if you are getting changes to gamma made: get rid of the non _mcm version of icon override.

[naive snow]

@slow bolt did Geologist ping you for the screen_res parameter or the m_hud_params problems on DX8 ?

[slow bolt]

#1137162280816099450 message

[naive snow]

Alrighty, I'll tell Grok in #1092834455300866068

[simple scaffold]

I will update icon override to have these changes like it should have had years ago. and publish it. i'll let you know when i do. at the same time i'll make a way for that other script to not break when icon cell dimesnons are changed.

is grok telling ppl to vote for anomaly on moddb?

[slow bolt]

dont think so

but i am also pretty sure Anomaly is competing against nothing too

[simple scaffold]

this is site wide. so anomaly is compeating with morowind rebirth. and doom infinite

[slow bolt]

Well, ngl grok should have said something then

[simple scaffold]

anomaly was second last year

[celest forge]

You'd be surprised

[simple scaffold]

@undone lily not trying to help anomaly win mod of the year? 😦

[celest forge]

Despite GAMMA's popularity, most people here don't even check ModDB and a decent population don't even know Anomaly is GAMMA's base

The amount of times people ask for a mod and someone goes "this has been in ModDB for months now" and the responde is "WOAH I DONT EVEN CHECK THAT EVER"

While other fan bases of mods are entirely rooted in ModDB and check it constantly for updates of the mod

[slow bolt]

Anomaly is a fork of Gamma with no mods and worse graphics

[slow bolt]

i'd say we are very aware of moddb

i dont check it. Because this thing exists

[random fulcrum]

but it doesn't show when mods are updated

[slow bolt]

Who cares about updates. Only mods worth the updates are either here or mine

[random fulcrum]

okay

[celest forge]

This takes away any traction for the site that this server could influence

If this wasn't a thing and people actually went in and checked the actual site the first thing they would see right the header would be the thing telling you to vote for anomaly

Lmao

[slow bolt]

Well yes, but this bot only posts new mods.
I much rather have it than not

[celest forge]

Still, it takes away all the traction that this server could possibly have on ModDB

Which would be a lot considering this place is nearing the user limit for a discord server lol

[slow bolt]

That bot is also how i know that NPC Revenge mod got rage deleted by its creator and reposted, who is now saying it never existed before lmfao

[strange mesa]

I have a career programming background, trying to get into how these lua scripts work.
Just wanted to ask if anyone has gotten breakpoints + some IDE to work yet?
Reading over all the scripts i have so far, everyone just seems to very verbose output to debug console.

[slow bolt]

its lua, so most IDEs work

Breakpoints wont work, as you need the whole goddamn game to lauch and run. And no IDE integration there

Maybe SDK

[strange mesa]

I see thankyou

[undone lily]

done

[undone lily]

no because the RSS feed doesn't work for updated mods

[random fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-game-mercenaries-stalker-game-stalker-gif-11586070399648579192

[slow bolt]

But it could

though idk how this one was done. I tried but decided not to mess with zapiers 9999999 functions and even more configs

[random fulcrum]

it really shouldn't

[slow bolt]

But.. but.. updates to Hip's hips mods?

[random fulcrum]

click the updated tab in moddb

[undone lily]

ask moddb to change it

[slow bolt]

Wait, it uses moddb something? well then

[undone lily]

yes

[slow bolt]

I assumed it was something 3rd party that checked new releases every x minutes(which is why it would be easy to post updates)

nvm then

[vestal pier]

Hi, could someone tell me what is the name of "Hardcore aim" file?

[strange mesa]

scripts/ui_options.script

It just looks like it changes the config values raw then and there within the options file

With a bunch of executed console commands for ai aim options

[vestal pier]

Nice, thank you 👍

[soft burrow]

yo what's the deal with math.atan()?

it's giving me weird results, all different to how it works in online lua compilers

I'm inputing the z and x coords of the REL_POS vector, just to be clear. Already tried switching them around, still get weird results.

[slow nexus]

le mao

[steady apex]

All inputs of trigonometry functions are radians

[steady apex]

Does it deserve that?

Literally nothing happened to anomaly this year

[open oasis]

hi @simple scaffold, i did my best not to bother you but i simply am not experienced with syntax enough to solve this on my own, since the entry of MCM on the modlist is yours i thought you might be able to help:

i am trying to get rid of the space in the image below by aligning the text to the left as far as it can go, however nothing that i tried last night worked; i tried looking for indent entries, however they're all at 0, i tried changing spacing, i tried changing the alignment of everything from align="c" to align="l", i tried extreme changes the height and width of buttons to see under which one the text is placed, nothing seems to have any bearing on the treeline buttons at all

this is for my mod here https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1185683765054418994

could it be that a different config handles these buttons or that it's part of the modded .EXE? i couldn't find a solution through the four \config\ui files and i looked into the \script\ files as well

[hybrid forum]

I wonder if it would be possible to expand the range of types of ammo used in guns. For example, allowing a 9x18 gun to use 9x19, and vice versa. Without a caliber change from one to the other

[simple scaffold]

That gap is the x=15 on line 87

[simple scaffold]

Alot of the other mods are in a similar state. This vote is more a measure of community activity than anything else and that anomaly has.

[regal bolt]

Hey. Anybody knows of a mod for craftable "Beak" or "Beard's Tea"?

[open oasis]

that didn't work, i changed it to x="0" and the text position did not change

oh hang on there's another entry in GAMMA UI that overwrites this

oh shit that worked! this is why none of the changes were taking effect

G.A.M.M.A. UI under G.A.M.M.A. HUD completely overwrites all those settings you set

[open oasis]

https://tenor.com/bVdLh.gif

thank you very much

[gaunt glen]

hello, how can i add some weapons as exceptions in the lower weapon sprint script, i tried and it doesnt work

for syn reanimated saigas

actually never mind, i remembered this mod exists https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/lower-weapon-sprint-optimized, which has a keybind to black list weapons in-game

[onyx geyser]

Hey where can I find all the gamma ambient music?

is it these two files?

[oak trellis]

how do you convert a bumpmap into a normal color format so i could texture it in substance 3d painter?

normal as in like the blueish normalmap colors

[naive snow]

You need to extract the green, blue and the alpha channel, recombine those G = inverted normal.x
A= normal.y
B= normal.z

R = is your specular map, you can semi invert it to create a roughness map, but you'd be better off working in a specular workflow instead of a metalness workflow fyi

[naive snow]

That blueish normal map is a tangent space normal fyi

Invert your x and y channels depending on whether you're making stuff from directx or opengl
I.e the green channel inverted or not

[oak trellis]

stalker anomaly normals are directx right?

[oak trellis]

and also you could do the opposite to recreate it right

[naive snow]

That's pretty much how you create _bump maps if you don't want to mess around with the sdk texture conversion

[dusky magnet]

Right now I'm thinking of reverse engineering the armor trading system to make a mod where you can turn in unmodified weapons in exchange for faction-specific mods. There's a couple things I need to know before I really try to give this a shot.
First, are all scripts written with LUA syntax or is it a different language syntax? Second, is there a master list of the mechanics' in-code IDs to reference for dialog? Finally, I'm assuming the character_desc_'mapname'.xml are just files that are copied and pasted so that they have objects that can be directly referenced?

[naive snow]

It uses direct X yeah, but the actual channel packing is kinda funky. Your best bet is to create an over the top strong normal map, import it and test if it works properly in game, then tone down the strength once you've found the right channel packing math

[naive snow]

Like try using this image on a cube.ogf as an object or replace a gun world model with a cube and try with that normal map to generate a proper _bump

[dusky magnet]

Changing the last question. I saw that each map has its own xml that lists the NPCs and their available dialogs, which means that now I need to worry about merging two dialog tree edits together into one xml. Is there an automated system that merges all of the map XML changes into one like dltx or will I need to design this as a "patch" on top of the armor exchange?

[gritty lichen]

will i mess my save up if i edit the upgrade tree of an armor i'm currently wearing?

[random fulcrum]

likely

[bitter vessel]

Random question for you beautiful mod makers... Is it somehow possible to get the PDA to control spotify controls... For example if you play a playlist on Spotify, you could skip a song in game on the PDA, or if you wanted to see what was playing you could see the artist and title

[rotund smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-diver-eivind-frogman-gif-14830614

Does anyone know of a mod to be able to obtain that badass Diving Helmet? I've only seen one ever and asking Newbie Chat, a fellow member said it's from one Unique NPC. in my case it was a Sin member. I really want to be able to get that helmet and i cant find it in the Debug Menu

[naive snow]

It's probably part of an actor model itself, not an actual helmet you can debug in. You'd have to find the actor model, remove the helmet, create a new helmet with whatever other helmet as a template, set it's item config file and then spawn it in

[vestal scarab]

Maybe. You could look at the buttplug mod and see if you could work something out from it to the Spotify api. I don’t know anything about how the buttplug mod or the Spotify api work though, but I know someone else used it as a base to do some api calls https://github.com/abbihors/buttplug-anomaly

[fringe frigate]

omg thats a thing

[bitter vessel]

Thank you, going to look into this

[bitter vessel]

OMG I can't believe someone made this

[glass thunder]

can anybody help me set barrels to be changed via field stripping in game by editing WPO script?

[dusky magnet]

Goofy comment I found while browsing location XMLs

[dusky magnet]

Ok so I think I have everything set up but the game won't recognize the new XML file that has all of the new dialog tree text in it, so it hard crashes. Is there something I'm missing in the XML for the dialog trees or the mod info ltx?

[fringe mango]

what is needed to add laser sights to guns? i see there's laser_status = true in guns that have it, but simply adding this line on guns that don't doesn't seem to work (ie the player can activate the laser but there is no laser)

[dusky magnet]

The guns that have lasers have a model and likely a script that hides the model of the laser. You can see the laser itself if you open an ogf of the guns that have a laser

I dont know for sure how BaS handles it but thats the mod that introduced them

[dusky magnet]

Specifically, this is the error I get when trying to talk to xenotech. I have a dialog tree set up to the id in the argument, so I'm assuming the mod_system.ltx file is missing something since I included the dialogs xml dialogs_aftermarket_exchange.xml in it alongside grok's armor exchange

[fringe mango]

another question i had was related to the script in charge of gun firemodes/saving firemodes, some guns will remember the firemode selected by the player after map transitions/game loads while others just default to full auto

[naive snow]

You could take a look if you know which weapon in their .ltx file and see if they have something extra in there

[fringe mango]

i did, the only thing related that was apparent to me was "fire_modes =" for listing the gun's default firemodes

i tried changing the order too, to see if it would change what fire mode it defaults to. didn't work

[naive snow]

You'll probably have to look in your whole anomaly game files to find where the define is for fire_modes and see if there's something there

[dusky magnet]

Is there documentation somewhere for the format and usage of mod_system_zzz.ltx files? I've noticed a few different things have files formatted like that but I don't know what the syntax is supposed to look like and if all of these mod_system files are referenced somewhere else

[naive snow]

I believe the _zzz part is simply to bump the order in which the file would be loaded. It's lazy coding

[celest forge]

DLTX orders files alphabetically starting after the mod_system part

[dusky magnet]

Is DLTX in charge of adding .xmls to the list of things that the map xmls can read to find dialog trees? That would make sense why this isnt loading

[random fulcrum]

no

it's in the name

[naive snow]

So it might be a couple of things after digging. Some guns based on fire mode have an animation so that might be setting up an extra check that stays active past map transition. There also a local fire_modes in the arti_jamming.script. Another in camera_reanim_project.script.
There's also stuff about it in ish_toggle_scope, which looks to info.saved_fire_mode.
Some weapons have a preffered_fire_mode (dunno if that's just a typo)
So yeah you can look at that for further testing

Exemple of gun anim stuff

[fringe mango]

oh shit, thank you! i did a search with np++ on the unpacked files but it just found stuff from guns' ltx files, guess i should have dropped the 's' at the end

[dusky magnet]

I got a prototype working, only problem is that right now the gun that you exchange for only looks at the overall condition of the gun that you trade in, and the gun that you receive has pristine internal parts

But yeah my issue was just that I had empty <precondition> tags in the dialog xml that apparently causes the file to fail parsing

[naive snow]

Yeah if you only look at .ltx you'll only find the gun's config files. You need to also look in .config and . script

[fringe mango]

yaya i had the search go through all extensions

thx

i'll update you guys if i can figure out something

[naive snow]

The toggle scope script option is interesting, see if when saving after switching fire mode you can see the printed lines in the log or console, try to find when and how that info.saved_fire_mode is saved

[celest forge]

Iunno, the switch mode anim is merely a hands one

Like, the physical switch on the gun doesn't move even if it has one

BUT the transition thing could be related to the animation

[naive snow]

You could check how the smooth level transition mod is done so you can use the same map transition events to force save the weapon's fire mode

[celest forge]

Ngl i'd rather just

switch

every time I come and go

It's a single button press

[naive snow]

One of the things I hate is how the weapon doesn't save the current choice of sights for aiming. Like on my PL15 Lebedev, I have a laser sight so I can use the stupid bulky silencer and use the canted aim with laser. That doesn't save so on reload and whenever I pull it back out so I have to switch again.

[dusky magnet]

Just putting out a feeler in case someone has the answer already, but is there a way to get and set the values for parts of a weapon?

[unkempt trail]

Hello guys, I am looking for a mod, that changes animation of holding rifles while sprinting ? I have seen on some YT video, that player point his rifle in the air in one hand. Does anyone know what is this mod ?

[slow bolt]

oh god the cringe

someone had it in here

[regal bolt]

Just disable "41- LowerSprintAnimaiton - Skieppy"

It's not that invasive so enabling it again won't be an issue if you get tired of unfinished/broken/unpolished animations

[shell grail]

Balisong Knife for stalker?

[severe coyote]

is there a bone id for right arm?

[fiery basin]

hey what ui file is responsible for on-screen text like "reload" and "game over" i'm trying to make some edits

[fiery basin]

okay so i found the file for the game over text but i still can't find the one for "reload"

[neon remnant]

Good afternoon! Is there any mod or way to activate realistic damage (not like that not only I would be enough a couple of bullets to fall back)?

[rough radish]

someone should definitely make a mod for this

[pseudo steeple]

Hi all! How I can make the damage realistic? I’m tired of bandits in leather jackets taking 3 bullets to the face

[pseudo steeple]

Oh, hi, my comrade

[neon remnant]

Hi bro

[naive snow]

The armor display model isn't representative of the actual armor of the NPC so that leather jacket bandit might have more than a ski mask as a helmet. Caliber of weapon will also vastly change how much damage you do and how much penetration your bullets have. If however you feel like all of this isn't enough, put the game on easy and change the hit power multiplier to your liking

!Difficulty // Gamma has hard coded damage multipliers (on the bullets you fire and those you receive) that can't be changed unless you change the actual starting difficulty of a run. You can however change under your Settings > Gameplay > gameplay Difficulty the setting of Bullet Hit Power Factor.

[queen pine]

@naive snow GAMMA has hidden damage modifiers based on your chosen presets when you start a game. These can only be changed by starting a new game and can't be changed mid-playthrough. For more details on what the gameplay and progression difficulty settings are, see this link https://github.com/veerserif/GAMMA-manual/wiki/Difficulty-presets

[naive snow]

Also just stop shooting bandits in the face with 9x18 fmj and expecting one hit kills

[pseudo steeple]

Well said, dude. I just expected to go into hardcore mode and just die from a couple of hits, but that's how it works. In general, thank you! I'll keep it on mind

[naive snow]

Once you'll get proper calibers (5.45, 5.56 and up) getting one hit kills on bandits will really become the norm. You could also use a proper ammo type if you see a lightly armored target. Exemple, using Hydrashock .45 on a leather jacket bandit will result in a one hit kill most of the time. Use the command of !ammo to learn more on how ammo works and why

[dusky magnet]

By the way, does anyone know if the AS Val reanimations have caused the weapon id names to change for them, or are they still just wpn_val ?

I'll be able to confirm it in a few hours when the update finishes downloading but I figured I'd ask

[fair inlet]

section names are same

[mighty crane]

I'm... not sure if this qualifies as "making a mod". But I'm trying to figure out how to make a personal edit of a gun, where I can choose all the upgrades instead of them being locked out. I've looked into the guns' .ltx file, but trying to make head or tails of it is a bit... much.

[dusky magnet]

I feel like I've seen a mod like that on the addons page already, you could grab that and then just apply it to rest of the guns

[mighty crane]

I installed it, actually. And I can't tell the differences. I thought I could sort of squeeze out what was done, but...

Sorry, by install, I mean... downloaded it, and looked inside

I can sometimes figure out some features to modify in something like Java, sometimes, like for Starsector, but I feel like I'm missing something >_>

[naive snow]

You'd have to check in the logic behind upgrade trees, as even armors use the same upgrade stuff

[mighty crane]

Shame you can't just, console/debug it. Urg.

I'll look more.

[vestal scarab]

A mod to do that already exists #1159960284081950932 message

[vestal scarab]

Unless you want a specific version of a gun with all upgrades but other guns to not have all upgrades. Then you’d need to make a new upgrade tree and a new gun using the new upgrade tree

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[wintry rampart]

Sooo . I've installed Gamma and then topped it off with UGP .. and a mag pouches mod which gives those additional belt mags or something ...

Now something weird is happening .. i can't load bullets one-by-one. If i change the option in the mod settings to completely fill the mag, then I can load mag fully, but the option to individually load them suddenly stopped working!! What gives ?

[regal bolt]

Hi. I thought about such a thing as a radial quick menu, but only for the device slot. It would be great to press the button, select the desired device with the mouse and get it without going into the inventory. If someone is in the course, is it possible to do this?

Or not only for devices, but for favorite selected items, such as cigarettes or water

[void obsidian]

About Grok's new prefetcher. Is there a way to fetch the existing visual models instead of having them in a long ass list?

[naive snow]

The list is already the existing visual models

[void obsidian]

Yes but what if someone had something like KVMAS’s models on? Or an addon not included in base gamma

[naive snow]

Youèd have to print out using a linux commandlet everything being written out of the .ltx files
Like something like this will print a .ltx with a !visual line for every line of _hud found in the gun's ltx file

ls ltx | while read -r l; do grep "[|^visual" $l | sed -e '/hud/d' -e 's;[;![;g' -e 's;:.;;g' -e 's;visual.*;!visual;g' ; echo "" ; echo ""; done > /mnt/c/mod_system_zzzzzzzz_burn_world_models.ltx

[void obsidian]

Think it’s possible to write this out in C# and kinda just let it be it’s own application?

Kinda like how you sometimes have to “Clear shader caches”

You gotta “clear and build a prefetch list” everytime you add in a new mod if you want it prefetched

[naive snow]

You could I guess, I have no idea how you'd go about doing something like this

[void obsidian]

That’s the hard part.. got a direction i can look at to see just the paths to the visual models?

[naive snow]

Every single visual model is in the meshes folder under your gamedata

[void obsidian]

But does it include the ones added by addons?

Mo2 leaves your gamefiles untouched iirc

[naive snow]

Unless someone put his meshes elsewhere but you'd have to fight relative paths

I mean once you launch MO2 and an application through it, everything gets virtualized to your Anomaly folder, so yeah as long as you run your program out of MO2

I launch my Blender and notepad ++ through MO2 and several other softwares to see everything assembled in my Anomaly folder

[void obsidian]

Virtualized? Havent worked with something like that yet tbh.

How would i write the paths?

[naive snow]

Heck you don't even need the path, you just need the item id

This is meatchunk's

It's just the item IDs so HD models will also get pulled if the names of the objects haven't changed

[void obsidian]

But building the prefetch list needs me to somehow have the application scan where the ids are. And for that dont i need a path where it can start looking?

Ah, so i just need it to iterate over the mods in the mods folder?

[naive snow]

Just launch your application through MO2 so everything is virtualized already

[void obsidian]

That, kinda having trouble wrappingmy head around, if it’s virtualized what’s the path like?

Because im assuming it wont be the same path as MO2 is on

[naive snow]

When you launch an application through MO2, it fakes a path, a virtual path from your mod's folder to the Anomaly folder. So everything appears to be properly in your Anomaly folder. With the right files priority, so no conflicts

[void obsidian]

Ah

So basically, once the app is ran through MO2. The application can read the paths as if someone just manually installed the mods by dropping them in the anomaly folder?

Did i get it right?

[naive snow]

So you only need to point your program to Anomaly\Gamedata\ and get every item id out of all of the files. (.script, .ltx, etc)

[naive snow]

Yes

This is why you can enable/disable mods as you want without messing your actual files

[void obsidian]

Ill start working in it in a bit. But thanks burn! Kinda got a general idea how i can go about it

One last thing though,
Are the indentions on grok’s prefetcher necessary?

[naive snow]

Maybe?
Some items don't and actual prefetch the actual filepath + extension

[void obsidian]

Hmm, i think i’ll start with ogf’s first.

Thanks again

[naive snow]

Don't forget to include the files that are packed in the .db archives

[void obsidian]

The what?

[naive snow]

Anomaly files are packed in a format that is a .db, it's like a compressed pack of files. A lot of textures/materials and models are in those files. You'll find a Tools folder in your Anomaly folder with a unpack_all. It will unpack all of those archives into a _unpacked folder. You can move that folder to a mods folder and enable it to virtualize also those files (tho don't run the game with that on)

[void obsidian]

The app im trying to make kinda just scans the files for the ids/paths and then saves them to write to a new .ltx for prefetching.

i dont suppose you know a way to scan the .db and have it only return the paths and ids i need do you?

[naive snow]

The . db files once scanned at least once are static and don't change really unless Anomaly releases an update which is never™

So you could prepopulate your program with that information/path yourself

[glass storm]

what file should i open to change max carry weight? (i want to increase it beyond 50)

googling says to modify file gamedata/scripts/ui_options.script but i dont have that in anomaly files

[glass storm]

nvm found it thru MO2

mwahaaaha! everything shall fit in these pockets now

[void obsidian]

Almost there

[void obsidian]

Good news @naive snow The Prefetch builder is working.
It's getting the meshes (.ogf) and writing them onto the prefetch_single.ltx However this comes up:

oh wait

Sorry for the ping, i left that part out. My bad

[naive snow]

Pretty cool! How big is your Prefetcher memory footprint at the moment?

[void obsidian]

it's got a few issues

Atm i cant run a game with it because well

the prefetch builder itself is working, but i get the feeling like it's taking meshes it isnt supposed to or something

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-old-milwaukee-beer-drink-party-gif-22890849

[naive snow]

Because you're getting absolutely everything you might also be getting ollllld files that don't have their dependencies anymore

[void obsidian]

i need conditions to this, like how do i know which ones to get.

[void obsidian]

does /gamedata/mesh/ have old files?

[naive snow]

That's the issue and it's only gonna get worse with hd models packs

[naive snow]

It could

[naive snow]

Any mod can write to it

[void obsidian]

next to meshes had this file "old shit" but im sure i left it out since it only checks what's in the mesh folder

these are where it's getting the meshes from

[naive snow]

You'd have to look in all of the ltx files and get which meshes are actually used, compare that list and cull the rest, but there's no way to reference geometry for the actual levels that way

[void obsidian]

Well shit

[naive snow]

The omf file error is probably because you're attempting to prefetch an actor mesh .ogf and actor is looking for an animation file (.omf) that doesn't exist or that actor is not used anymore

You could manually add exceptions for files you yourself find

Might be quicker than finding a way around

[void obsidian]

Hmm think it would better if i call the Ids instead?

or are those only for items

[naive snow]

The lds?

Lods?

[naive snow]

Lods are referenced in the .ogf files themselves so they'll get pulled in at the same time