╓☢stalker-chat

[uncut agate]

is "hold the ground" just perma-bugged if an emission takes place while you're doing it? I've been sitting at flee market like an asshole waiting for the rest of these bandits to show

[mental furnace]

yeap

[uncut agate]

fabulous

imma try taking antibiotics when it starts ig

[mental furnace]

do it after emission

[uncut agate]

yeah, worst comes to worst, ill reload my level change and do that

[limpid cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-spin-hat-one-brain-cell-gif-2745719316163357325

[celest sparrow]

Or set Stalkers to die instead to explode during Emissions

[mental furnace]

finally got better today gonna do some testing gaming

[celest sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238615665921884270/1345754588539519059/caption.gif

enjoy the gei2 build

[mental furnace]

[celest sparrow]

[dusk fractal]

hi guys, I have found SR-2M Veresk or how it is called and part of its stock is purple as if texture is missing. Is it because some reposition mod was added into gamma?

[mental furnace]

so i start as CS ?

[celest sparrow]

probably will want to wait until the CS dialog issue is fixed but you could just start the story afterwards I guess

[mental furnace]

[celest sparrow]

also #💻tester-lounge

[mental furnace]

[thick sedge]

I cannot fathom how tarded I am not using my N key at all after crafting a tier 2 NVG

I used the torchlight it comes with it till now

[mental furnace]

just fill all maps with glowsticks nothing could go wrong

[thick sedge]

that would be the next update being them throwable

[marsh bridge]

they are?

[mental furnace]

they already throwable

[thick sedge]

what the hell

[mental furnace]

[thick sedge]

ok I'm buying dozens from dushman

[zealous verge]

ngl found some old poster of stalker soc

[peak geyser]

a reposition mod won’t cause a texture to be missing / not found. It’s possible the texture got moved around or the ogf got overwritten. Any extra mods on top of gamma?

[dusk fractal]

no, no mods. Usually stock was not visible but now weapon is moved a bit on the screen. I last played gamma long time ago

[peak geyser]

I see, the texture may just be missing then would need someone else to confirm

[dusk fractal]

do you need a screenshot?

[peak geyser]

that would be helpful

[dusk fractal]

as far as I remember this part was hidden last time I played. I'm pretty sure that FOV change won't fix this

I mean you won't be able to see stock at all. It was behind viewport

I have seen similar color with some suits (hand models) in the past because of missing texture

[keen bronze]

Incredible mistake on my end missing thing

[astral estuary]

Is there a spreadsheet of the modlist for gamma?

I wanna check out some mods

Aint on my pc

[unborn tendon]

Thoughts? haven't played in a while. debating 3 guns which to mainly use as my starter currently. Mp9 brugger thommet. stm-9 gen 2. or a mp5A3 frasier than i just looted off a fellow merc...keep in mind for stalkers i predominatnly have an sv-98 that i found with a green barrel and repaired

[peak geyser]

you could technically check the GitHub for the “mod list” but I’m not sure if it’s updated

[mental furnace]

good choice

[peak geyser]

https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/tree/main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_data

[unborn tendon]

the anti stalker sniper weapon. yes. but i have 3 guns for the early ammo and im spoiled for choice and can't choose...

[peak geyser]

i always love the fraiser

[unborn tendon]

never got the chance to use it. is it better than the mp9? or the stm-9?

[peak geyser]

but I’d choose a shotgun over all of them

[mental furnace]

what u cant choose?

[peak geyser]

it shoots .45 which makes it automatically better it’s c kit for a reason

[unborn tendon]

debating 3 guns which to mainly use as my main. Mp9 brugger thommet. stm-9 gen 2. or a mp5A3 frasier than i just looted off a fellow merc

[mental furnace]

fraiser

[unborn tendon]

i guess u got a point. i got a gold stash in garbage anyway. i could spam buy hydroshock

[peak geyser]

choose whichever you have most fun with though, the mp9 spews bullets and can be a funner experience

[mental furnace]

[unborn tendon]

i did find in a shitty condition the "chimera hunter" toz. but i got no ammo for it. and too early to craft it since i got no tool kits

[mental furnace]

butcher sells it cheap

[unborn tendon]

plus id need to repair it anyway

[unborn tendon]

the ammo?

[mental furnace]

ye

[unborn tendon]

i don't remember shrapnel being sold

anywhere

unless my memory is faulty

[mental furnace]

any ammo is good

[scenic trench]

butcher sells every hp ammo type (maybe not federal tho)

[atomic pebble]

https://youtu.be/Q_CLcejKATw

[vapid cobalt]

what am i supposed to do when the enemy is hiding in a bush at night with a machine gun and i cant go anywhere

i cant see him but he can see me

[outer ember]

anyone know good hand models aside from thap and using gfy?

[mental furnace]

try gorka pack

[outer ember]

ooh looks very nice

dont see anything for the exos tho

might fuck up the exo healing anim

nvm thap required, ill try this out tyvm

[valid crater]

You use a well thrown grenade.

[vapid cobalt]

hes on a hill in army warehouses by a broken tree

i beat him by loading a save and rushing his position

[peak geyser]

looks good on my end. try typing wpn_stock_ar15_mesa_crosshair_hydraulic_buffer_tube into the MO2 search bar and see if you find anything. that is the texture that is supposed to appear there

you may need to update because latest 3dss has this file

[dusk fractal]

none found. I have downloaded gamma few days ago, no errors or warnings

[peak geyser]

interesting, it should be there

[dusk fractal]

here, right?

[peak geyser]

yes, thats correct

should look like this

[dusk fractal]

does your mo2 shows which mod is it?

also I dont have 3d_shader 4.03 on clean gamma

[peak geyser]

that’s the newest version, I just manually downloaded it instead of updating gamma

actually didn’t 3dss update recently? you might want to update 3dss by itself

[silver star]

IS There any tutorial on how warfare works?

[atomic pebble]

take smart terrains, destroy groups and that's it

[mental furnace]

!warfare

[dawn marten]

@silver star
G.A.M.M.A. isn't built with Warfare in mind, and Warfare is known for bad performance, bugs, and various issues, which is why it is not recommended.

You are free to play it if you wish, but please understand that support for Warfare-related issues will not be provided in our support channels.

[lethal steeple]

#📢development message @mighty viper yes it's supported but almost no weapon is properly aligned when scoped and aimed down sights

especially snipers, some of them have a NASTY offset to them, from where the barrel bone is positioned and where it's pointed to

hipfire is also offset a lot on a lot of weapons with eft reposition styles since basically nobody cares about proper orientation and shit

[opaque moss]

they ar ealready repositioned

[celest sparrow]

I was going to ask if weapons were aligned for 3D Ballistics to be enabled

[opaque moss]

haven't you seen any screenshots with an ak where the reposition is pure ass

that's the 3db repos

[sick yoke]

it looks like ass so we can have "realistic" bullet ballistics

this is truly one of the moves of all time

[opaque moss]

even then, what's even the point of making it so that bullets don't go into the center of the screen if we're just gonna make them go into the dead center of the screen anyways

[astral estuary]

yo what kind of rep do i need to have, in order for mercs or freedom to sell mauser mk1 upgrade kit?

or is it just nimble that sells it?

goodwill

[random grail]

Nimble doesn't have "exclusive" kits anymore

[rigid stream]

felt funny because nimble doesn't sell newly added kits.

[tame trellis]

anyone playing using the demonized MT exes? How's stability?

[astral estuary]

there should be more upgrade kits

for weapons

[lethal steeple]

"as realistic as playable is the motto" after all

[lethal steeple]

nah i haven't seen them yet

hip fire isn't really what bothers me since everybody plays this shit like if it was resident evil

it's there for aesthetics so it being ugly is a straight downgrade

the thing i'm more worried about is ads firing because that shit needs actual micro adjustments to make it properly aligned with the crosshairs

even more if the barrel bone is offsetted on the model

which is (or was) the case on a few weapons

[astral estuary]

Some aks have that disorder

[lethal steeple]

i once tested snipers a handful of moons back with 3db and they were COMICALLY offset

like not even at extreme zooms

30m out and you're aiming a full head to the right to land a shot

[graceful quiver]

I think SV98 kinda suffer from that too

[lethal steeple]

the barrel line not even coming out from the center of the screen

i think it's best practice to only enable it for hipfire

even if you can't shoot your gun without aiming it

[opaque moss]

seriously how is this repo even necessary

like this one is just comical

[lethal steeple]

there's so many ways to go about it but the solution chosen was moving it to the right and making the pivot more pronounced

[mighty viper]

ATHI has realigned all guns

[opaque moss]

yeah literally

[lethal steeple]

viewmodel pos is one part of the bigger picture

[opaque moss]

and even then rotating yaw to the left is counter-intuitive with how fov cameras work

[lethal steeple]

i suggest you enable the 3db crosshair and barrel line

[mighty viper]

Yes that’s something I’m considering

Because that’s the main reason I want 3D ballistics : to make lasers more useful

[opaque moss]

you wanted to make lasers more useful so you made it so all guns point to the center of the screen

[celest sparrow]

Well yeah, how else is laser gonna be center

[mighty viper]

With 3D ballistics that’s not the case

Bullet should follow the laser position

[celest sparrow]

I'll see about that later

Need to remember how to enable the 3d crosshair

[opaque moss]

have you taken a glance at ts#╓☢stalker-chat message

[celest sparrow]

[sick yoke]

csgo position

[candid meadow]

Anyone call tell me how install HD models?

[lethal steeple]

but the laser is arbitrarily positioned on the model tho

more often than not to be roughly aligned with the crosshair

but not necessarily

[mighty viper]

Just like IRL

Lasers are straight with barrel or slightly inclined to be zeroed at a given range

That’s something you have to account for when aiming with a laser

[mighty viper]

I don’t get what you are showing here

[opaque moss]

other than the wacky ass position, from what I can see there guns have been made so that they point to the center of screen (because otherwise I literally can't find an explaination as to why the viewmodel would look like that). so if guns already point to the center of the screen and the player gets to have an actual reference of where the bullet will land, lasers are completely useless and redundant

which also suggests that athi bothered to make all laser meshes be completely aligned with the barrel, repositioned every single gun just to make lasers unnecessary

[unborn tendon]

been playing for only 3-4 hours. got to rank 4667.....started sneeding my own merc teammates and got the damn best helmet in the game xD. damn it i want the ace suit now

i JUST got the damn 2nd tier tools too xD now it will just sit there miserably

can even do anything with the helmet at the current stage? i don't remember.

[candid meadow]

Why every model of my armors have these hand open gloves? I prefer the closed ones

[opaque moss]

and btw there's basically no games with 3d ballistics that have viewmodels like that, so I can't find a rational response as to why all this work was made if the whole point of 3db was to make lasers more useful

[inner heron]

is it possible to acces debug if you dont have the launcher? i redownloaded gamma back when there was the dmca stuff or whatever and i dont have the launcher since it was an alternative download method grok posted

[blissful ivy]

better for shooting probably

[blissful ivy]

you have MO2, no?

it should have the launcher in the launch options box

[inner heron]

i have mo2, just not the actual gamma launcher. maybe im confused, i thought i remember turning debug on in the gamma launcher

[blissful ivy]

you turn on debug with anomaly launcher

which is in MO2

just click the part that says DX-11 or whatever

and change it to anomaly launcher

[shadow cave]

I can't wait to try out the new armor system, I love collecting cool armor and now that they're all changed around my favs might change around too

[lethal steeple]

https://youtu.be/2dxRGoaH2vw

[grave pivot]

Misread that as Lances 😭

Adding medieval weapons in the Zone

[lethal steeple]

with the bullet callbacks making a crossbow is really really really not out of the question at all

the issue as always is animations tho

but arrow retrieval is entirely possible

however not a traditional bow because there is still no way to have a delay between clicking and firing the gun

[subtle jewel]

To be fair, it happens so fast you could animate a fake arrow shooting forward that just disappears eventually, leave the actual bullet to be invisible or something

[lethal steeple]

nah i'm not talking about the arrow in flight

that can also be faked with the bullet callbacks since there's a bullet on update one

just interpolate an arrow model to the position of the bullet

have the bullet not render a tracer

that's it

oh wait the bow could be always drawn

[subtle jewel]

I was talking about the arrow being launched from the string for a couple of frames

[lethal steeple]

that way the delay doesn't matter

[subtle jewel]

Oh you meant the drawing back of the string

[lethal steeple]

ye

[subtle jewel]

Could you highjack the left click to draw the string instead of going into a scope view?

Block hip-firing

[lethal steeple]

that's also an interesting idea

make the hip fire pos just not show that the bow is fully drawn, not allow hipfire, and when ads it's shown to be drawn

[subtle jewel]

Play the reload animation scoping to draw the bow string back, unload on leaving the scoped view

[lethal steeple]

huh

hmmmmm

i mean it sounds possible iirc there is support for contextual animations like that

[subtle jewel]

Just gotta block firing until the full reload animation is played

[lethal steeple]

the gunslinger ports have a lot of very specific animations

[subtle jewel]

True

[lethal steeple]

maybe a bow actually is entirely possible

[subtle jewel]

Could be an interesting experiment

[opaque moss]

maybe the arrow could be made into a sort of dynamic object with script attachments?

that way it can be also retrieved and stuff

[lethal steeple]

for retrieval i was just thinking of using the bullet callbacks to spawn an arrow item where the bullet hit

that you can then walk up to and press E on

[opaque moss]

so the arrow would go from rigged object from the bow's armature to bullet to spawned object?

[lethal steeple]

yyyyyyyye

like

have the bow just shoot out a regular bullet as far as the game is concerned

[opaque moss]

and also what happens when the npc hits the ground when it dies

[lethal steeple]

with no tracer

and with an arrow model interpolated to its position via bullet on update

[opaque moss]

can the arrow be constrained?

[lethal steeple]

if the arrow hits a mob then i guess you can compromise and send it to its inventory

and not spawn the physical model on the body

[opaque moss]

hmm can't you sort of make the arrow be constrained to the root bone of the npc or something

[lethal steeple]

idk this is all just brainstorm crack theorycraft

thing is available tech does suggest that it is indeed possible if you think about it at least at a basic or "decent" level you feel me

[opaque moss]

yeah yeah ik

I don't even know if it's possible to rig bows for x-ray since you can't change scales

I guess you could do it with an ik chain

[mighty viper]

That’s because there’s not yet slight gun movements when shooting

Which is easily doable

[opaque moss]

ok for the time being can we have decent viewmodels thx

[mighty viper]

Please define decent

The photo you linked is exactly the kind of view model I’m expecting from a FPS

If you mean centered weapons where you can’t see shit as soon as a scope is added, no thanks

[lethal steeple]

scoped variants can have different viewmodel positions to

o

a russian scoped ak could be just put lower on the screen and tilted upwards to still be aligned with the crosshair

[opaque moss]

[celest sparrow]

Destiny mentioned

[opaque moss]

idk i would expect something that allowed me to see through my sides

[lethal steeple]

godwin's law

with all this viewmodel talk can the sprinting hand movement animations finally be addressed dude like

please

there is no way in hell anybody thinks that animation loop is in any way shape or form better than the vanilla anomaly sprint hand movement

[opaque moss]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-sog-soggy-cat-fact-check-fact-checked-gif-3086258029609134343

[sick yoke]

Random mw2019 view models

[mighty viper]

I am well aware of this thanks and I’m glad we agree

[mighty viper]

Hum for real ? Never paid attention

[lethal steeple]

shit does this motion

[mighty viper]

Hum let me find the mod responsible for this just so that I can compare

[lethal steeple]

it's not noticeable on weapons with a dedicated sprint animation

or not THAT noticeable

but on weapons that don't have a sprint anim gahdaym

@mighty viper

look at that

[mighty viper]

True

[opaque moss]

then you should agree that weapons should point forward and not to sides as if the gun was being held by someone behind the actor right

[mighty viper]

Yeah agree but it’s not easy to have everything

(Clear center vision, scopes that don’t obstruct half the screen, etc)

[opaque moss]

just move the original reposition slightly to the left if you find it to be that bad

but don't jack that shi all the way to the right lol

[lethal steeple]

the other solution is to just remove russian scopes

just have the smaller nato scopes make the dovetail picatinny rail adapter appear on the ak

problem solved

[mighty viper]

Tbh I prefer guns a lot to the right to have a better vision of what’s in front of you

[mighty viper]

That’s basically using a steamroller to crack a nut

[opaque moss]

i mean yeah me too i think it's a bit too centered but at least it points forward, and imo poses that don't point to where the action is happening (right in front of you, no deviation) are just counter-intuitive by nature

bullpups for example are a hell of a bitch to pose but you can still get an alright pose if you just keep all the principles together

for some reason the camera guides don't show up in the render and idk how to do it but you get the idea

[lethal steeple]

i never understood what the 4 boxes are for

i've seen some people have spheres there

what's the point

[opaque moss]

it's mostly for camera anims, they kind of set some bounds for extremes and such

but it's also to keep perspective coherent, same as the floor

@lethal steeple

[shadow cave]

Anyone know any good revolver mods?

[blissful ivy]

#1100689401966755870

you got options here

colt peacemaker, S&W 500 magnum

bunch of others

[outer totem]

The what

[shadow cave]

Awesome, thanks

[blissful ivy]

nothing really

just a guy was named borka fat

he did lots of lying

was banned

explaining server lore, thats it, im officially old in this server

[dusk vessel]

i remember

he was here not long ago

[outer totem]

Oh i scrolled down from that reply

Sesms like a loser

Discord try not to shit itself challenge

SNowihavesomegossiptoreadupon

Wow

Holy shit discord

[valid loom]

[outer totem]

Lmao its the same guy pretended to be rihc in the newegg discord

Rich*

Heard about him there too, named StarFroggo or something

[polar lark]

saw the other day that mod that makes military nets around the map interact with light (as, they cast shadow etc), anyone remember the name? Can't find it

[inner heron]

brain scorcher loot was good to me

[blissful ivy]

yeah

[blissful ivy]

mhm

[hushed pier]

idk why people turn up graphics until they sitting on 60 fps

that shit feels like lag bro if you experinced higher numbers like 144

[frank oxide]

This just in: higher refresh rates ruin gaming forever

[hushed pier]

Its like after taking meth, weed does not hit the same, but does that mean you lost, no. it means you experienced a better high and you won't settle for the shit

[frank oxide]

Gotta stay on my 24hz pal tv

[hushed pier]

bro gatekeeping his eyes

[quaint yoke]

Comp games i go lowest single player i go highest till 70fps

60-75fps is insane jump in smoothness imo

[hushed pier]

anything under 100 is lag

im too far gone

[frank oxide]

Me glad to get 60fps and being happy about it

16.6ms latency

[hushed pier]

Gratefullnes + ignorance = Unbeatable combo for happy

[frank oxide]

I get my happy wherever and whenever i can get it

Shit is rare as is

[hushed pier]

im guessing you have that same look irl as the profile pick, must seen some shit with the legend rank in gamma server

[frank oxide]

[hushed pier]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[muted spruce]

Lowk I got this off a merc 3 days in

[inner heron]

yeah

desire sensor is real though

just picked this baby up

[grave pivot]

Above 45 fps for me is a luxury

[cerulean fable]

The fourth arena fight in Rostock is genuinely impossible. It’s not because fighting three guys is particularly difficult, it’s because you have a bunch of allies that look exactly the same as the people you’re supposed to be killing. They do not shoot at the enemy and just wander around aimlessly. I have died at least 10 times at this point because I can’t tell who is an ally and who I’m supposed to be shooting at

[grave pivot]

Git gud :)

[cerulean fable]

It’s not a matter of skill in this instance. This is just flat out bad conceptually. You cannot tell in a split second who an ally is from the people you’re supposed to be shooting at, least of all because they make no effort to advance or shoot at the enemies. Every single time you see a target you have to wonder if that’s an ally or an enemy. That’s not skill, that’s random chance.

The only thing I can get good at is seeing how fast I can get back into the fight from a reload and roll the dice again to see if the people I’m shooting at our allies or enemies.

[muted spruce]

Naur it skill

I did it in one shot, you just need to be aware where your team spawns

[cerulean fable]

You actually just proved my point perfectly, you didn’t use any skill at all, you just memorized something.

If the fight goes on for more than about 30 seconds, their paths have completely wandered off into random directions

[muted spruce]

It's not that deep man

The most annotying one is either the last one or the hammer man fight

[cerulean fable]

I really strain to believe how anything could possibly be more annoying

[thick sedge]

@muted spruce

#╓☢stalker-chat message

[muted spruce]

You'll get it

What

[thick sedge]

[muted spruce]

Dun think so

Been a while now

The upgrade kits are the only way iirc, but they cost sooo fucking mucj

[thick sedge]

what the flip

[muted spruce]

You can see with right click weapon, details

[thick sedge]

this thing one taps stalkers (maybe below master rank) in the head with fmj

[celest sparrow]

what the skibidi

[muted spruce]

6-7

[thick sedge]

there's absolutely none except kits and its suppressor

grok fix this™

[muted spruce]

60k out of your account to you

[cerulean fable]

Fuck this, I’m going to make a mod that just removes your allies from the fight. I’d rather be fighting 3v1 than 3v1v2

I’ll publish it once I’ve made it

[steep elm]

I'm stuff

[inner heron]

I don't think any arena fight has ever taken me more than 2-3 tries lol

[outer totem]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[solar chasm]

There isn't any cos it doesn't have any attachment points for a scope being the austrian army standard version

[thick sedge]

guess I'll buy one of the kits

[solar chasm]

Or find the OSW version

Idk if it's the same as live but it has a laser on dev2 nowdays 😛

[peak geyser]

its the same as live because latest 3dss adds the laser

[solar chasm]

noice

[astral estuary]

Sa-58 OSW is the best gun in the game

[astral estuary]

Ive played anomaly for years, that one fucking arena fight is so annoying, even though its very easy. With me often just shooting at what is infront of me, there is literally no reason for allies to be in that fight

[blissful ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/explaining-stalker-сталкер-флинт-сигма-gif-15010663227243103228

him asf

[compact tangle]

did you guys loot while disabling the brain scorcher? xd

[minor radish]

he drank too much lean

[inner heron]

Is the svds upgrade to 556 still better than the 54r default?

[pearl galleon]

THE BLUE MAN STRIKES AGAIN

[junior garden]

Whats his name?

[minor radish]

Leanman™

[analog palm]

holy shit this is literally me

just add a unshaved beard

[fallen atlas]

So you're a con artist?

[dusk badge]

what we got in our 5 slots on the belt METAs stalkers?

[wraith mason]

I'd start with a compass, empty, full empty and balance it from there. Maybe add a heart of the oasis and a chimera or pseudogiant pelt or something. Idk if it's meta but I think it's a good balance

[pliant kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/gherkin-pifi-deepfake-arrested-development-blue-myself-gif-18198242668930837460

[peak geyser]

I go for compass full empty fireball and then the rest should try to balance out the negatives, heart of the oasis is good and you can add maybe a pseudo giant hide or a chimera hide, higher belt slot armours are where I would add an empty

the lvl4 plate isn’t bad either

[analog palm]

i wish

[analog palm]

steel plates

i dont believe in magic rocks

[quaint yoke]

is this a bug or like an easter egg

[idle kelp]

Don't worry about it, the text is an easter egg but the error itself pops up to prevent any actual serious issues

Just ignore it

[valid loom]

Personally its just a cheaper and more varied ammo option for it

[fallen atlas]

The more complicated answer is: There is a script that detects quests that can't be completed or will crash the game and instead replaces it with that message.

Honestly at first when I saw it I thought it would give me like, coordinates for some fancy stash or something

[near estuary]

!pdaerror

[dawn marten]

@quaint yoke

Just ignore it.

Critical Error on top of certain tasks was done on purpose to prevent autofailing once accepted through the PDA Taskboard.
It can also appear on tasks that require you to go into maps you can't access yet.

HEX code is just an easter egg, something similar to the "Kill Strelok" PDA.

[sweet forge]

did the starter nato weapon loadoat five seven always had this model and change in icon or did i fuck up my install, also the vityaz looks like a escape from tarkov fully kitted weapon now is that new?

like this

[idle stag]

Is it normal that i lose 10 fps when i wear helmets?

[celest sparrow]

might be due to the mask overlay

[idle stag]

Is it that unoptimized?

Helmet is crucial for immersiveness, but 10 fps lose damn

[hollow wadi]

Yeah, and when it rains it eats more

Immersiveness when Strelok made it to c-con in a hoodie

Weak stalker

[celest sparrow]

[idle stag]

My rig isnt weak, but i feel every fps lose

[thick sedge]

is KSG-12 any good chat

unrelated but is the other 23x75 a slug shell?

the red barrikada

going to craft handful of buckshot 23x75 anyway

[mental furnace]

its peam

[thick sedge]

what peam are you referring to

[undone osprey]

https://www.moddb.com/addons/precomputed-gasmask-noise got ya

[wraith mason]

Barrikada is a slug, yes. It's good for armor. The shrapnel is good for mutants.

[mental furnace]

what u wrote above

[flint ruin]

I feel like every update im back in this server for the "how i fix"

It somehow always manages to break something

[foggy pier]

Isn't there a problem with lasers ? They are invisible when lit (unless I use free zoom then they appear normally) and show up when aiming. It should be the other way around, meaning they should appear normally except when aiming where they would disappear...

Also does it with weapon lasers btw, it's not just for this specific red dot sight's integrated laser pointer.

FOUND A FIX : Set the dynamic objects view distance to max

[stable trout]

Guys, is the "death lamp" in GAMMA? I mean I have never encountered it but I am just curious

[foggy pier]

Came across it a while back. Terrible but pretty artefact.

[stable trout]

Interesting, does it have a good sell value? And what anomaly type have you found it at?

[foggy pier]

IIRC, I found it in Jupiter in a toxic anomaly field... It was a long time ago though, Gamma has evolved since and I never encountered it again after that.

[stable trout]

Ahhhh

Yeah it probably is not there anymore

Since radiation emmiting from artifacts was removed, and that was basically the only thing that thing did XD

[foggy pier]

True. That's sad though, I liked the little thing.

Even though its sole purpose was trying to kill me.

[stable trout]

Yeah but like, what even was the purpose 😭😭

Like one good thing about it

[mental furnace]

yes and its only purpose is food for feeding artefact melter

[thick sedge]

does it 2 shot stalkers in the torso?

[stable trout]

Wait what?

[thick sedge]

I haven't done basic math over what it can do

BR6 is crazy

[mental furnace]

its useless

but if u wanna go to afterlife quick its your choice

[celest sparrow]

It can sell for a decent amount I guess

[stable trout]

But radiation emmiting was removed no?

[stable trout]

But I was mainly asking about the melter feeding. You can feed him?

[celest sparrow]

yeah

to restore charges

[mental furnace]

feed them with magic rocks

so it can make other magic rocks stronger 💪

[celest sparrow]

i used to rock to improve the rock

[stable trout]

What artis csn feed it?

[celest sparrow]

any

[stable trout]

Oh

How?

[mental furnace]

drag melter to artefact

its gonna eat it

[stable trout]

Oh

Nom nom nom

Good to know

I can put moon to good use

[thick sedge]

what tier 2 and 3 artis should I hunt or fuse for ballistic armor on a seva suit

or should I just hunt a good ball armor

[near estuary]

empty, full empty, wrenched

[gaunt shuttle]

damm, i have the VSS Vintores but now i have the other Variation so now i cant decide if i should use eather 😭
(ps i have mags on too it a desicion of aisthetic realy)

[hushed pier]

I love that on the blades of the zone mode there is 7 british flags reactions lol

[wraith mason]

I guess. I mostly shoot them in the head and it wrecks them.

[weary cedar]

pretty sure it 1 shots most stalkers in the torso yes

last i remember shrap 25 also 1 tapped exos in gamma but then again that was 2024

[mental furnace]

yo

[weary cedar]

hi

[mental furnace]

how is tamfr doing?

[agile epoch]

I am nearing completion. Juuust need a working bolt.

[weary cedar]

i forgot about it tbh

3dss doesnt work no matter how hard i try

and im kind of lazy to patch BaS for guns

[mental furnace]

aaaaw🥀

[agile epoch]

Forgot about this one as well. Took this like a week ago. Bro got the new "missing texture" camo pattern. It's super effective.

[weary cedar]

last thing i worked on was VSK-94 and it barely worked

vsk in question

[thick sedge]

are the contents of rf packages worth it chat

[weary cedar]

sometimes

if you enjoy getting random bullshit they're worth

[thick sedge]

not sure if I want a package in army warehouse

[vapid cobalt]

EXACTLY as i was about to load into rostok a psystorm happened

and i almost got my shit softlocked running to cover while the psystorm was actively whooping my ass

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-australian-cougars-darkviper-gif-523573092545505578

[leaden island]

Always carry the anabiotic

[gaunt shuttle]

stalker taunts me more

where do i get mauser box magazines from? CS?

[thick sedge]

nato people

[grave pivot]

Some guns match parts with other guns. I once had a 2lv part from a mosin match with an SVD.

Its easier for me to go kill stalkers instead of buying

[mental furnace]

they tried to kill me when i was hunting artefacts and they all got roasted

[gaunt shuttle]

had one of those oh "fuck moments" while doing a monolith assassination mission tones of sin and monos at red forest (naturally) so had to try and figure out where the target is, killed the target turn around to flee back towards Jupiter and find a squad of sin and monos behind me alerted to my shot!
threw a grenade in panic which landed in a nearby tree fortunately 4 of the 6 man squad ate shrapnel, made a fighting retreat back to Jupiter.

[hasty spindle]

Ok, what are people's thoughts on the DVL-10s, both the Urbana and the Saboteur?

[flat phoenix]

I'm a saboteur kinda guy but you are limited in ammo types

[inner heron]

They're meh

[rigid wolf]

yeah i enjoyed the pre mutant 338 federal

[inner heron]

.338 federal is fun to play around with but a bit overkill

I'd rather have an r700 mod x if I'm gonna run a bolt action

[valid crater]

You can always right-click your personal PDA and cancel a package, to get a new one somewhere else.

[flat phoenix]

Yeah you're not running the DVL 'Saboteur' if you're on a budget lol

[violet swallow]

Here's the fix for that #🔨base-gamma-support message

[violet swallow]

Saboteur is 🔥 , the Urbana is 💩

[scenic trench]

saboteur was .338 , right?
(can't keep the names straight)

[sick yoke]

Yeah

[violet swallow]

yeah, the .338 federal mutant killer

makes you feel like a 19th century big game hunter

[scenic trench]

still should be able to put sights and not just scopes on it

[violet swallow]

you can use the Elcan with it's backup sights

[flat phoenix]

Yeah saboteur is a great but expensive to use mutant killer

[dusk vessel]

would be cool to have some safari rifles mabye

[flat phoenix]

The big mutants you'd want to save the thing for will require more than a few shots, and the ones you really wouldn't want to waste bullets on might actually die in one hit

[violet swallow]

Oh god yes, like a .375 H&H express rifle

[flat phoenix]

The Saboteur is still awesome because it's cool though

[dusk vessel]

i dont like how low the velocity on the sabatour is

i prefer the deer hunter

[violet swallow]

or a .416 Rigby

[dusk vessel]

its got like double the velocity

[flat phoenix]

The Toz-34 Chimera Hunter is just such a weapon btw

[dusk vessel]

700 nitro express iirc

[flat phoenix]

An adapted gun for big game hunting, basically.

[violet swallow]

it's a shotgun.

[flat phoenix]

You can use slugs too

[violet swallow]

it's still a shotgun.

[flat phoenix]

And?

It's cheap

Effective

[violet swallow]

becuase it's a shotgun. Stop being poor.

[dusk vessel]

its not a safari rifle though

its just a 23mm shotgun

[flat phoenix]

I mean a lot of safari guns are shotguns

Sooo

For good reason

They got big bullets

Especially when you put slugs in 'em

[dusk vessel]

i said safari rifle

[flat phoenix]

Sure

[dusk vessel]

i know theres shotguns, i dont like using shotguns

[stable trout]

guys, I wanna start a "misteries of the zone" playtrough, but I do not know what faction to choose. Duty I have played in my last playtough. Military is basically the same, and I want maybe some western faction, not necesarilly tho

[flat phoenix]

Be cool to get some anti-tank rifles tbh

[dusk vessel]

bruh

[flat phoenix]

old surplus shit as mid tier mutant hunters

[dusk vessel]

not necesery whatsoever

[flat phoenix]

I mean we got Supermutants dawg so

speak for yourself

KEKW

You wanted big caliber rifles

[violet swallow]

Look, I'm a simple man. I want a Weatherby in .375 H&H so I can decorate my hideout with pelts and trophies

[dusk vessel]

an anti tank rifle wont be very effective against giants

the way that gamma balance works

[flat phoenix]

It'd have to 2 shot 'em

to be worth

[dusk vessel]

no lol

[flat phoenix]

In the head

[dusk vessel]

wont even be close to 2 shot

[flat phoenix]

I know 'cause gamma balance

[dusk vessel]

if i know gamma balancing

[flat phoenix]

Hurpadurp

can't have a bullet that's good at both

Even though they do exist

[violet swallow]

look at it, so pretty...

22mb, I should probably have resized that...

[flat phoenix]

If there was ever a gun that was actually good at penetrating armor and also killing mutants, it'd have to be super specialized so a surplus anti-material rifle does kinda fit that bill, especially if you make it weigh its realistic amount

you aint taking that out all the time if it weighs well over 20kg 😄

It'd have to be really cumbersome, and really expensive to the point where you'd only ever bother to be cool at your own expense, or when you wanna take out a HVT

[random grail]

Rpg

[flat phoenix]

basically yeah that qualifies

IT'd be that kinda tier of weapon except it'd happen to shoot very expensive and probably rare ammo

[analog palm]

uhmmmmm

pkm

[agile epoch]

Finally did the BS. Unsure if I wanna brave Red Forest or Pripyat. Methinks Red Forest though idk if I'm ready for the menace that is Sin up by Forester. I can never get by Forester without seeing Sin.

[analog palm]

or

sr2m lol

9x21 is good against mutants and armor

unless im misremembering and it doesnt have hollow point variant in base gamma

[agile epoch]

9x21 can be used against mutants but idk if I'd call it good against them.

[analog palm]

hollow points kill chimeras in half a second

[agile epoch]

If you want a sidearm for mutant killing get a gun with HP

[analog palm]

or shotguns, ultimate in both anti armor and anti mutant, slugs rape anything that isnt exo

and exos get stunned so the double tap is free

[agile epoch]

if I had an auto-shotty I definitely would take that instead

[valid loom]

Emission is almost underway, bandits + loners fighting over the only shelter available.

[analog palm]

why is it so blue

[valid loom]

Me coming in with the only grenade I have

[mental furnace]

[valid loom]

used a glowstick

[analog palm]

i forgot those exist

[valid loom]

I feel dirty but more loot I suppose, being a passive clear sky guy

[mental furnace]

[violet swallow]

Yeah, their cave is really unfortunately placed. I've taken to fast travelling past it after BS using a guide, just so I don't have to whack Chernobog early and fuck my playthrough

[agile epoch]

On the plus side though there always seems to be a battle with Sin and either Mercs or Loners. Lotta loot you can ninja if you can avoid poking the main cave.

RF for me also has a stash by Forester so I'm taking my chances. Fingers crossed I get lucky with an Expert. It's never happened to me to get it first stash North of the barrier but who knows, might get one time lucky.

[inner heron]

If I may give you a tip for the cave, sneak in until you start to see the bonfire on the right, and throw 1-2 grenades at it. Grenades seem to ignore their shields that make them so tanky to bullets

Doing that makes the cave much much easier

Just run back towards the entrance after and shoot them from afar

[agile epoch]

An AK with HP generally makes short work of them as well as long as you can manage to land a few headshots.

The biggest issue I usually have is the flinching when they hit you throwing off my aim

Sin doesn't seem to have that flinch. At least not that I recall. It's been a while since I've fought them. Been quite a few patches.

[leaden island]

9x21 is ap only for me

[leaden island]

Man i tried the cave so many times with pure ap and heavy armor. Doesn’t work. Had to bait them all the way out to the forester’s gate

[near estuary]

he probably uses the custom ammo mod

[near estuary]

it doesn't

[inner heron]

dont use ap on sin

use hp ammo

[leaden island]

Tf lol

They had armor

[inner heron]

yeah youd think ap would work through their shield but nah

[leaden island]

Well it did eventually

I killed every last one

At the forester’s gate

[inner heron]

that is a great feeling!

[leaden island]

It’s the perfect choke for grenades

Also i planted a mine or two

[inner heron]

did this yesterday, same as you. 7 sin and one grenade!

[lethal steeple]

armor works exactly the same on sin as on any other mob

[agile epoch]

AGH WHY!

Fuckin

[inner heron]

ive read on here multiple times that hp is better for sin than ap. because of 'artefacts'

[agile epoch]

Red Forest strikes again

I creep through and finally get to Forester's compound area, don't save the entire way there, and then the game fucking crashes as soon as I open the gate at the wall.

[lethal steeple]

you use hollow points on them more commonly because more often than not sin mobs spawn with really low armor models

[agile epoch]

The damn crashes in Red Forest are about as dangerous as the chimeras and Sin

[lethal steeple]

so you don't have any armor to go through basically and just want to skip the 70% damage reduction with the hollow ppints

[inner heron]

damn homie pulled out the italics to prove their point

i see what you mean

[lethal steeple]

but really just fmj and aim for the head as with any other human mob in the game nosorog or not

[inner heron]

yeah fmj solves all

[lethal steeple]

yes sin does take an additional 1 or 2 headshots because of the damage reduction but it's basically the same

[inner heron]

spent my first few gamma playthroughs crafting ap for 556 and 545, never again

[lethal steeple]

i remember

back in the day when multihit was still a prevalent glitch

[dull warren]

9x39 and 762x39 my goats

[lethal steeple]

people thought that the sin shield was beatable with high ap and high enough bullet speed

grok even said this was an actual intended mechanic

[inner heron]

i mean, through intuition it makes sense

[lethal steeple]

nah but okay

[inner heron]

i always thought ap would "pierce" their shields before i looked up sin weaknesses

if someone isnt coming here to research every question, i wouldnt blame them for thinking ap is how you beat sin

[lethal steeple]

it's because people just overcomplicate the fuck out of the mechanic trying to explain it with lore

in discord chat

when they could just say they have 70% damage reduction

instead of "they carry powerful artefacts that cover them in a sturdy shield like forcefield that protects them against bullets"

[atomic pebble]

sees smth that he dislikes
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, EXCUSE ME?!?!, THERE A STORY BEHIND THIS????????????????

[lethal steeple]

or the evergreen "sin are considered mutants, you should use hp instead"

[dull warren]

mutants are mutants, sin are mutants , even the helicopters are mutants

[lethal steeple]

helicopters being mutants is the one i get the least like how the fuck do you come to this conclusion dawg

is the player also a mutant because he takes increased damage from hollow points even through armor

[analog palm]

actually

what are helicopters

[lethal steeple]

mobs with a health bar

they don't have hit callbacks

so gbo can't process them

so they're subject to fully vanilla damage rules

which are "hit to deal damage"

[atomic pebble]

anomalies, not a single pilot it's alive

[lethal steeple]

for this same reason they're multihittable, which is what also leads to people saying the tail rotor is the weakspot or hitting the cabin glass deals extra damage

[celest sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336380532363362304/1344787141523275837/XWyKuU6E.gif

Like 1/3 only say it because of the Armor they wear

and 2/3 say it because someone else told them

[analog palm]

idk man my slugs dome them just fine either way

if that doesnt work then nothing a spray of pkp cant fix

[mental furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764965033767600161/1414929403988672522/grimble22988_-_1965280827836956804_-_GIF_1.gif

[lethal steeple]

do you think it would be more intuitive if sin had idk like 99% ap reduction instead and it was actually an armor shield you had to go through

(number is exaggerated, relax liberal)

[analog palm]

apply more gun

[lethal steeple]

99% would make a exoskeleton unit 12.5% sturdier than eidolon

and a nosorog unit 50% sturdier than him

that's crazy imagine going through the castigators in limansk and having to work through a 600 deep armor pool

[analog palm]

can you even spawn copters in debug

[lethal steeple]

4 times back to back

[celest sparrow]

mfs be having the halo shield

[leaden island]

Fmj x54 7n1 feels like trash compared to 7n14

[lethal steeple]

that's because it's a worse version of it

not because it's fmj

because the middle x54 is also fmj

[leaden island]

With better ap…

[lethal steeple]

yeah

[leaden island]

So much so that my damage output practically triples

[lethal steeple]

that's not how it works

good old terrible naming conventions and stuff more like

[leaden island]

One bullet doing what three bullets can’t

[novel junco]

The good old Stalker jank (i meant to reply to this)

[near estuary]

that doesn't mean you're doing 3 times damage

[lethal steeple]

i mean ???

[near estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-what-gif-3784745843284049350

[leaden island]

I mean it quite literally does though

[lethal steeple]

no like for real like ???

is it jank if a red barrel is an "object with a health bar"

[near estuary]

@radiant fog take an average enemy and shoot 7N1 and 7N14 at them

[lethal steeple]

me when i don't understand damage and am confidently wrong

[sick yoke]

it just means that 7n1 didn't pen armor and 7n14 did

[radiant fog]

why me

[lethal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/special-week-chud-belly-uma-musume-gif-6862328070903788169

[radiant fog]

i dont want to commit moorder

[near estuary]

ur the funny numbers guy

[leaden island]

If one shot with bullet x Dora more savage than three shots with bullet y you don’t need a calculator or database spreadsheets to find the answer

[radiant fog]

why dont you use veers calc

[near estuary]

and I'm too tired from boringass lectures

[lethal steeple]

no way blobfish is the numbers guy dude what is this timeline

[near estuary]

half the time he's here, he talks about damage calcs

[lethal steeple]

bro had a stroke typing that out

[leaden island]

My phone doesn’t like me

[near estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/dora-the-explorer-dora-gif-14810631521244644065

[radiant fog]

d-d-d-eported

oh sorry i meant d-d-d-dora

[radiant fog]

that good enuff for you bub?

[analog palm]

who cares about all that

just dakka it

[radiant fog]

blicky

https://klipy.com/gifs/fat-guy-shooting

[mental furnace]

[flat phoenix]

My spirit animal

[radiant fog]

a fat guy with a glock? amazing spirit animal ngl

[flat phoenix]

Fat Bus Driver works too but a gun totin' fat bus driver

We need a fat stalker mod that lets you spawn as a really slow fatass. You get much less hip fire recoil but suck at aiming down sights

[near estuary]

@leaden island

[leaden island]

What, you never heard of effective dps concept?

Damage values on paper mean nothing if they can’t be applied as such

[celest sparrow]

what is blud yapping about

[novel junco]

This bloke is just saying shit

[leaden island]

I simply relayed my experience shooting 7n14 and doing more then triple 7n1 accomplished and everyone wants to jump down my throat for some reason

[valid loom]

Weird flex but ok

[celest sparrow]

7n14 does more than 7n1 though

7n1 is dogshit

[fallen atlas]

@mighty viper Were procedural animations fixed? Last time I used them equipping grenade launchers reverted the gun to using default animations

[valid loom]

Its a cheap round and does its job well on the lower parts of the Zone also accessible.

[celest sparrow]

I don't think the author ever updated it

[fallen atlas]

k e k

Seeing another thing I made make it into GAMMA feels funny
I just took animations from Call of Pripyat's AKS74u walk and sprint cycles and called it a day

[leaden island]

CoP animations haven’t already made it in after all this time?

[mighty viper]

It’s on my list to fix

[fallen atlas]

Oh neat.
Just note that it might need an engine level fix?

[mighty viper]

Otherwise I don’t think it’s such a problem

[mighty viper]

Hum really ? Isn’t that just missing animations ?

[fallen atlas]

As far as I can tell it switches back to default walking animations when ubgl is equipped.
Also breaks crawling animations if they are enabled.
The dev said they'd look into it, then ghosted the mod page since June.

Might be some engine check that isn't met

[celest sparrow]

🥀

they forgor

[waxen geyser]

does anyone use the Small Calibers Handgun Pack

[sonic walrus]

i did, its aight

[leaden island]

32acp?

[outer ridge]

God plinking a noso mono or chimera to death with .22 sounds as funny as it does tedious

[uncut agate]

Yeah I was gonna say, what can drive someone to want even smaller calibers?

[leaden island]

Surely 9x18 is weak enough

[uncut agate]

Ig .22 would be ok if it was incredibly cheap and an American 180 was added

Other than that...

[leaden island]

Full drum to kill a boar but it’s only 900 rubles to reload

[keen bronze]

Ten years later

Any ETA on the fix?

[mental furnace]

[keen bronze]

"The author is dead, rip"

"How do you know that?"

You already know the answer

||no answer at all||

[outer ridge]

Merc shows up with a Ruger .22LR AR15, laughed out of dead city for being broke

[sonic walrus]

no recoil and extremely high rpm would be fun for that

something like a SAW but with 22

[leaden island]

.22 is fantastic for cyclic rate

You can get to 1800rpm ez

[sonic walrus]

now use 22 kolibri

[outer ridge]

Im imagining Dushman pulling a funny prank where he tells a dude it's 5.56 and sends him into limansk

[sonic walrus]

thats just slightly more painful than getting full auto´d by an airsoft nerd

[sonic walrus]

lore accurate merc, too stupid to check what ammo the gun runs with

[sonic walrus]

replace with (the original joke is fking dead)

[vast oxide]

anyone know how to make npc's stop stealing stuff from my kills? i want them to loot their own and claim their kills but they take my shit too

[frank oxide]

!claim

[dawn marten]

@vast oxide
To make NPC's stop claiming loot from dead bodies, disable:

• G.A.M.M.A. NPC Loot Claim Remade
  If you want to make NPC's actually loot the dead bodies:

1. Disable 311- NPC Stop Looting Dead Bodies - DTTheGunslinger
2. Go to the Mod Configuration Menu - Useful Idiots and disable Only companions can loot or gather items

[frank oxide]

no middleground

either leave it as is or disable it

[vast oxide]

aww damn, guess ill have to leave it and sprint like usain bolt to each body. thanks bro

[stable trout]

I went with UNISG and I am doing their questline. I am still a rookie, with one properly functional gun, no proper armour, no proper medications and low on ammo. Oh, and I am in the outskirts

[placid flax]

Would anyone like to watch me stream some gamma? Not plugging anything in unless they want to watch!

[wraith mason]

You will have a rough time in the northern areas with almost no rad resistance. I also started a unisg run, but I started in Darkscape "naked" (no points used and I threw away the PDA, detector, etc). I had to go through Cordon first so I could make something work on the bandits with just the knife.

[steep elm]

So

I did this for my current playthrough to test it out, and I've been noticing an oddity.

It seems all guns an NPC loots will share the same conditions for all their parts.

not sure if it's the same case for outfits as well.

[steep elm]

To specify, I'm not saying all parts in a gun will have the same condition %'s, but what I mean is one gun will have parts with randomly generated part conditions, yet all those said part conditions seem to get copied & pasted to all the other guns in that NPC's inventory.

So idk if the NPC's OG gun part conditions are what's initially copied over or what.

Needless to say, as a rookie I've already looted an SVD with a green barrel in Cordon

Just unsure if this issue is something only I'm experiencing or it's normal for this to happen when one disables those mods in the modlist.

[frank oxide]

this is probably the fault of the loot stabilizer, Grok spent some time changing how it works after a few months of "omg why do i find 4 green parts in one gun" and "why are all my gun parts at 1%"
as of testing and seeing what others say this issue was more or less fixed and green parts will be less common in the upcoming update

You can always disable the Momopate's Loot Stabilizer for the time being or try grabbing the new scripts from #📢development and replacing the existing ones

[steep elm]

Is there any downside to disabling Momo's LS?

or will that just mean I'll loot more green parts?

and by scripts, do you mean newer scripts for said LS?

[frank oxide]

savescumming becomes an option again for bodies of stalkers and mutants and pretty sure stashes if you disable the mod

if you leave the mod on in its current configuration = more green parts or other oddities

and yes that's what i meant

[steep elm]

Gotcha

[frank oxide]

https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/commit/5305b912ff7f0c9deedeeb6b30ee7afa00886bd3

[steep elm]

I'll see about grabbing newer versions of the scripts then to see if that fixes things

oooo

thank you

I understand the thought process behind avoiding savescumming, but man does it become annoying when you're in a heated battle that results in tons of player deaths and all the body markers just disappear

[lethal steeple]

the current patch in main gamma has only parts generation for guns enabled in the script

everything else is disabled

[marsh bridge]

To make NPC's stop claiming loot from dead bodies simply shoot them*
there i've simplified the message

[lethal steeple]

and that part is still broken in the main branch

the "downside" is that you get "worse" rng but you can savescum parts again

[steep elm]

I appreciate it yall

[thick sedge]

why did grok made them not loot the claimed bodies doe

[frank oxide]

They’d hoard shit for you and hog up the IDs

[thick sedge]

oh boy

[steep elm]

Hog up the IDs?

Wdym?

[frank oxide]

!65k

[dawn marten]

@steep elm Anomaly has a limit of a total of 65535 objects (IDs) in the game. Whenever the game engine generates a new enemy with items, it tags the object ID number to the enemy unit and its items.
The same goes for traders & their items, every time you interact with the trader and visit a new place and kill an enemy and check their loot, you make the game engine generate ID numbers. If that ID number reaches 65535, the game crashes, and you won't be able to play anymore on that same game file, unless you "free" some IDs.
You can lower the amount of used IDs by letting items despawn or by selling/donating them at any trader.

[steep elm]

and hey, I just treat it as second-nature loot hoarding just as I do

so imo it's not out of the ordinary to kill an NPC and to see him have fat loot on him

[steep elm]

oh shit

I didn't know this

[frank oxide]

NPCs would start holding more and more items on them from all the stuff they kill, which means that more item IDs are taken up

[steep elm]

fuck

[thick sedge]

looks like I'll be selling or crafting things in my dead city stashes

I never crash on my shitbox setup though

[frank oxide]

And well more items also just mean easier life

You kill someone and find out he’s holding like 50kg worth of items

[steep elm]

'tis true

[novel junco]

There is a mod that lets NPCs loot stuff offline, you can imagine that fills up the amount of IDs pretty fast

[steep elm]

Ok I wasn't sure if they did that passively or not already lol

I guess not then

[thick sedge]

nah what if they loot then it 'dissapeared' from their inventory

[steep elm]

So what about when you leave a region? Do NPC inventories reset or do they keep what they have until you come back and loot them?

[novel junco]

That never happens

Anyway, this is the mod that adds offline NPC looting option: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1318562256224780369

[placid flax]

Anyone know the rules on self promo?

Want to ask before I just plug my stream in

[frank oxide]

You can post links in #╟🎮stalker-videos📹

[clever canyon]

Afaik Npc inventories are set the moment they spawn on any map and they are stored “globally” so .. no they won’t get reset.

Not 100% sure .. but it should be the case.

[inner heron]

Nimble won't accept a trade for a perfect condition g36, is there a work around?

[thick sedge]

"the moment" thing is kinda funny cause NPCs start spawn in one area of a base so when you fast travel right away they spread out from one spot

[steep elm]

Gotcha

[clever canyon]

I mean it makes sense since as soon as you start a new game you are at around 35k ID’s or something.

Anyway you need to hoard like really badly and/or have npc spawns set pretty high to get to the ID limit, you can check by opening the console and type “save” it will tell you the amount you are at.

[steep elm]

thank ya

is this the global amount or just the amount of whichever region I'm currently in?

[lethal steeple]

global

don't worry about the 65k id limit

[clever canyon]

That’s every ID

[lethal steeple]

you won't ever reach the farlands

unless you actively want to do so

[steep elm]

[lethal steeple]

and even then it'd take you days and days of effort non stop

[clever canyon]

I personally saw the “out of ids” crash like 2 times in my time spent in modded support

[lethal steeple]

and i'm betting it was always from people that cranked the shit out of the stalker pop slider

[steep elm]

yeah I haven't touched the stalker nor mutie spawn rates ever

[clever canyon]

That and redone

[lethal steeple]

because not even playtime is enough to reach it like geologist was the perfect example of that, bro played modded gamma and had saves that reached far over 200 ingame days, no sign of being even close to the limit

[steep elm]

in any of my playthroughs

[steep elm]

Jesus lmao

[clever canyon]

At least if I remember correctly

[wicked bloom]

I've had several saves go close to or over a year in game across several patches

Never had an ID limit issue

[steep elm]

Feeling pretty reassured now

[clever canyon]

Yeh, if you are at least a bit sensible you won’t have issues with it.

[wicked bloom]

I would say I'm a pretty moderate hoarder too, though certainly not as bad as some people I'm sure

[lethal steeple]

surely the minecraft farlands analogy could be added to the bot command like everyone and their grandma knows about that concept

[wicked bloom]

I usually have like 6 or 7 blue crates, the 400kg ones, filled up

[clever canyon]

I don’t

[lethal steeple]

67

[steep elm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brick-meme-break-explode-gif-13868715770986833670

[lethal steeple]

there's people that get the "gta cheat" thing from the faction unlock command and that shit predates minecraft by 6 years at the lowest

[clever canyon]

I mean yeah .. same for me .. I just never played Minecraft or had any interest in it.

[wicked bloom]

Never seen a video of it in your internet travels?

Just by accident

[clever canyon]

I saw some I guess but not many, like I said never had any interest.

[wicked bloom]

Fair

[lethal steeple]

well it could be written into the command like the gta cheat thing

[wicked bloom]

Still it's probably a safe assumption that most people would get the joke

[daring crystal]

Hey osays skeet irx isnt sold at bandit camp trader although my rep with them is maxed. are they only on sales later in the game

[lethal steeple]

"you know about minecraft? ever heard of the far lands? you can reach them, yes, if you really want to and focus only on doing that, it'll still take you a bunch of irl days to do so but you can reach it, otherwise you'll never see them"

[wicked bloom]

Accurate lol

Doesn't it take several days of constant powered minecart travel to get there? Idr exactly

But it's an even better comparison if so

Makes me wonder what the fastest way to inflate the ID count in gamma is

[lethal steeple]

turn the stalker pop slider from zcp to the max

and the game won't even load

you'll get the id limit crash as you start a new game

[wicked bloom]

[clever canyon]

Eh .. I guess that could work.. but the “!65k” command is long enough I suppose

[wicked bloom]

I need to try that

[dusk vessel]

it doesent really take that long if you use methods

[lethal steeple]

the same way as it doesn't take that long if you use methods for the id limit

see cranking up stalker pop

[dusk vessel]

unless you specifically go to the badlands you will never encounter them

the fastest method i guess would be going above the bedrock layer at the top of the nether and using the fastest horse

ive never hit the ID limit in gamma anyway

[steep elm]

I think

the swamps may be calling to me

https://tenor.com/view/scar-stalker-pibb-xtra-clear-sky-gif-14605512341377138525

[lethal steeple]

horses weren't even in the game at that point

[dusk vessel]

no they were

no wait 2 years off

regardless you can generate a world in beta 1.7.3 and then launch it on a modern version

[junior notch]

A mod that makes them sell their shit to traders would fix this

[agile epoch]

A mod to fix a mod

Peak GAMMA

[atomic pebble]

a port of PP ai will fix everything brat

[dusk vessel]

someone should then make a patch for said mod

and then someone else another patch for the previos patch

[junior notch]

99% of gamma playerbase ragequits

[atomic pebble]

That will be true, but it doens't quit that the port will fix everything

[atomic pebble]

Idk what the people do for exceed the limits of IDs

Just in this server i see sometimes that the people has that a problem with the limits of IDs, it feels weird see many cases with this type of mod, is not "small" but either sooo big as other mods

[dusk vessel]

prospectors project?

[atomic pebble]

Yeah

[junior notch]

Prosectors

Whatever the fuck that means

[dusk vessel]

ah misread

havent tried it mabye its time

[junior notch]

Dont do what i did and start the game on master

[thick sedge]

prosec deez...

[junior notch]

I took 1 hour to defeat the vehicle station bandits on PP master

[atomic pebble]

"A prosector is a person with the special task of preparing a dissection for demonstration", id say that is about people watching shit and had to handle see it

[junior notch]

Badass name

[atomic pebble]

Now imagine agroprom🤣

[junior notch]

Less places for them to camp you though

[dusk vessel]

sorry

gonna be doing it on master

[junior notch]

Pp is like playing a cego match lowkey

[dusk vessel]

im faceit lvl10 in cs

ill be fine

(mabye)

[atomic pebble]

the intended difficulty is Legend, that's how the devs play the mod

Legend is a new difficulty

[dusk vessel]

if you make it too difficult doesent it invite cheese

[junior notch]

This ai lowkey uncheesable

[dusk vessel]

as i said i havent played it

im making assumptions

[junior notch]

And it doesnt even have wallhacks like every other stalker mod

[atomic pebble]

And PP AI still has way to be expanded, in the future the devs will add the offline combat because they are testing a X64 engine

[junior notch]

I thought it already did

Those things are very unnoticeable

[dusk vessel]

am i gonna need to do console shenanigans to unlock legend difficulty

or is it just available

[atomic pebble]

Offline combat was disabled by smth, i just read smth about in PP server, i'll believe that was by performance-issues.

[junior notch]

My favorite part of pp aí is how they actually lose knowledge of where you are during combat só you can use hit and run tactics

[atomic pebble]

Just available

[dusk vessel]

well im ready to be humbled then xd

[atomic pebble]

If the 1.8 is released, i expect that the AI be enhanced besides the offline-combat, i saw that the devs are planning have a new weapon pack sooo perhaps the AI will have a feature related with attachments or weapon-related thingis

Omg, they are going to do it

[dusk vessel]

enemies using grenade launchers would be sick

i can already hear the crying if it was ever added to gamma

[atomic pebble]

they do it

This post of AI/Weapons addons surely it's related with add/quit attachments or add attachments according to the situations, for example:
Add a scope if the enemy it's far and the NPC needs be more precise

[dusk vessel]

i was binding my keys since i rebind most keys

and it has hold breath??

[atomic pebble]

yes

[dusk vessel]

ive been wishing for this in gamma since the very first hour of playing it...

[atomic pebble]

also has a alternative mode for hold the weapon

[unique solstice]

Why are NPCs detecting me through bushes and over far distances. Them cordon bandits are insane. Even at night.
My game difficulty is highest (very high?) idk if that matters...

[glossy drift]

NPCs can see through foliage unless you enable NPCs cannot see through foliage mod

[unique solstice]

Ah, makes sense. Wasn't this on by default before?
Also any reason why it's not on by default(seems to be an oversight kinda..)

[glossy drift]

don't think so, I always had to enable it since I started playing like 3 years ago

[dusk vessel]

isnt that the wrong one

should be Tosox Version

[glossy drift]

I use the one that Grok gave us in the modpack, if the other one is better please do share

[dusk vessel]

!foliage

[dawn marten]

@dusk vessel
So you want the NPCs to not see you through foliage anymore? Well, you're in luck.
They don't see you through bushes already.
There are now THREE ways to further circumvent the issue:

• You can learn how to properly position yourself, how to flank enemies or retreat so they lose track of you. Fight enemies dynamically and outsmart the AI, don't sit in a bush or walk into one thinking they will forget you. Get better at the game. Enemies react to to sound and hear bushes rustling. Avoid that.
• Download and enable this mod: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/152dltx-smaller-bushes to, per se, level the playing field, making some locations feel incredibly empty, whilst keeping bushes about knee high.
  ||||

Type !ctrlm in https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1012510897136222293 if you're unsure how you're meant to install mods on your own.

• Enable the G.A.M.M.A. NPCs cannot see through foliage - Tosox Version mod under G.A.M.M.A. Fixes. But beware. It has technical issues; you can abuse the AI by sitting inside a now solid walls bush, and the weapon tilt cover will trigger on bushes. It is not advisable to enable the mod.
  ||Again, ||

[dusk vessel]

its in gamma disabled category

the other one is in fixes

[lethal steeple]

this is a feature removed in gamma because it's unfair

[uncut agate]

on the latest patch, do you need rep with ecos to get tier 3 arti crafting in jupiter?

[lethal steeple]

like think about it, it's just a thump sound with a very short falloff for obvious reasons, throwing a small non luminous (as in tracer) projectile, that travels at close to 100m/s that doesn't have a flying sound or anything

and they don't have a switch animation nor an increased aiming time frame to telegraph the grenade launch

[uncut agate]

i found the special arti recipe already, just idk where to get the tier 3 recipes. ecos dont seem to sell it in jupiter like they used to

[lethal steeple]

you're fighting a dude that's spraying you and the next frame you explode

[glossy drift]

yea that's the one I was talking about

[atomic pebble]

In PP, atleast in the lower difficulties there a system:
When the NPCs it's in the process to load and shoot the grenade, there a signal from where comes the threat

[lethal steeple]

as in what

the grenade nearby circle thing from clear sky?

that really sounds useful considering that it explodes on impact and that it travels at around 100m/s, yeah

they solved npc ubgls

[atomic pebble]

No, is a different system.
Idk if i could explain it properly but:
Im in this place, then a merc sees me, he is ready to shoot the grenade (that could went until here), and the game spawns a HUD element with animation (in BIG) advertising that the merc it's launching that grenade from x side, then i have a few seconds for change my position and avoid that grenade, when the grenade impacts, the element dissapears.
I tried to found screenshots with that HUD element in specific but i couldn't

[lethal steeple]

eh i don't think that solves the issue either really

moreover as you said it's only on the lower difficulties

which means higher difficulties embrace the bad game design behind npc ubgls

[steep elm]

god would it be funny tho

enraging

yet funny

[lethal steeple]

imho reducing their speed by a lot (i.e. 50% or something like that), adding either a dynamic light or a trail to them, and maybe an in-flight sound would be much better than an icon that tells you "WATCH OUT YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE HIT BY A RIFLE GRENADE"

[steep elm]

https://tenor.com/view/disaster-day-of-crisis-a-search-and-rescue-game-yuorki-building-tornado-firestorm-gif-4350254806710784845

[lethal steeple]

of course not realistic at all but you also don't instantly die if you take a hit to the head or get a game over for taking a hit to the middle of your back

[nocturne trench]

Does anyone here play stalker14