╓☢stalker-chat

[harsh sandal]

Or doing double barrel invictus like me

[lethal steeple]

back when you could start with the sawn off db

[harsh sandal]

Yeah

It was goat

[lethal steeple]

ye that shit was the shit

[harsh sandal]

Even after all the nerf

But then they decided it should be no longer relevant, no more db start

Hence no one uses it nowadays

[celest sparrow]

No fun allowed

[harsh sandal]

It should be a tier or can be put in melee slot fr

[celest sparrow]

[harsh sandal]

[marsh bridge]

slugs aren't that bad but yea if you're using slugs in a double barrel just switch to a pump action already

[lethal steeple]

the thing with slugs is that they're not good at anything in particular

like if you want them as mutant ammo then they're objectively worse than buckshot for a multitude of reasons

if you want them as low level human mob clearers then they're worse than buckshot too because of how armor works and at that point just use any pistol bullet ever

and they struggle extremely hard against anything that they can't pen on the second shot because of the firerate and recoil of basically all shotguns

they're just mediocre as fuck

i think darts are outright bad because they blow ass against mutants, are overkill for low level human mobs, and still struggle against armor because they don't have high enough ap to warrant their use when compared to, again, pistol calibers

which are cheaper, lighter, and faster

[blissful ivy]

i mean i have success with slugs on the MP-155 so idk

2 shots drops most stalkers that arent heavily armored

but thats just my experience

[lethal steeple]

wow that's literally what i pointed out

[blissful ivy]

maybe but recoil is a joke on shotguns

just move mouse down just a little i guess

[lethal steeple]

as is on all weapons but they have the highest in the game bar the scarh

[blissful ivy]

fire rate can pose an issue

why is that? why does the scar h have massive recoil

just overtuned?

[lethal steeple]

yeah like would i shoot 3 times with a 120rpm gun or 4 times with a 800rpm gun

✨balance✨ because of the ubgl or something idk gamma's balance is ass

consistently inconsistent

[blissful ivy]

as if any of the 5.56/5.45 guns with gls arent just as good as assault rifles

[lethal steeple]

i know right

i insist that the only real way to alleviate that is to tidy up and cut down the weapon pool to just essentials and actually meaningfully different guns that then get an actual thorough balance pass to make them as distinct as possible

leave it up to the end user to add other weapons

adding weapons is the easiest thing to do when modding the game after all

but having like 160 guns in the base game where 80% of them are assault rifles which ALL FEEL THE EXACT SAME dude?

nah

and i will die on that hill

hell fucking tarkov has less firearms than gamma and even unmodded most of them feel distinct enough from each other

in the quintessential "it's only the ammo that matters" game

[celest sparrow]

i would do changes that will make people cry because it's not realistic gun behavior

[lethal steeple]

considering making high level mobs deal increased damage to you i think different damages for weapons is going to get yes-man'd

[celest sparrow]

he makes Type D weapons deal more damage but he increases the Damage and AP reduction of Monolith / Sin / UNISG

can't have the player be strong, no sir

[indigo bison]

I don’t know why but it’s really satisfying to stealth clear a squad of stalkers guarding a specific area

I done the great swamps southern village and I probably saved on a ton of meds and bullets

Also got some buckshot pellets and a sniper from one of the guys

[hollow wadi]

But
Sometimes funni "sniper" in Cordon
That's about it, that's the use

[valid crater]

I'm actually mainly running around with 5.56 and 5.45 + UBGL. That additional heavy punch from M203 and Vog nades is just too good, especially for the occasional UNISG and Sin Encounters ... , additional: ammunition for them is cheap and plenty, and they kill stuff. I basically use AP all the time against anyone. It just drops any human being. No need to think about if it's economical. For long range the SV98 carries well too, with just the AP ammunition.

[sick yoke]

zero investment is better because it has "hundreds" of guns that are all balanced 👍

[lethal steeple]

this but unironically

[tribal steeple]

Finally beat Clear Sky and yeah that kinda sucked
It sucks cause like the faction war stuff was genuinely interesting and cool but like every other aspect about the game sucked really bad

[blissful ivy]

my point exactly

the scar-h is just overtuned

to be shit

[celest sparrow]

It's perfectly fine

the other 7.62x51s are the issue

[blissful ivy]

recoil is through the roof

its absurd

for no real reason

[celest sparrow]

"It has too much recoil"
Yeah and it feels good because of it

It feels powerful while most of the 7.62x51 BRs have little to no recoil

which is stupid yeah I can beam people with 7.62x51 like it's 5.56

[blissful ivy]

i mean, .308 isnt that bad

.223/5.56 is super easy, .308 is mildly difficult at modern battle rifle fire rates

which is usually less than 700

[hollow wadi]

Chat, he's using imperial units

Fry his feet

[lethal steeple]

he did the irl comparison

put the chainsaw to his tongue

[steady crater]

@tough prawn lowk still need help with this, i cant find a guide on it 😭

[thick sedge]

you're nuts dude

balls even

[rigid stream]

[tribal steeple]

Every time you post an ingame screenshot I have to prepare myself for the shitpost its gonna be

[tough prawn]

Bro just look at the moddb page

Or check the zip if it has a readme

[steady crater]

oh i found it

[blissful ivy]

theyre just what i grew up with

leave me be

[hollow wadi]

Re-educate him

[blissful ivy]

shut up pink-red name

banned

[thick sedge]

[long torrent]

||dw the Russian empire under peter the great used english-derived units||

||unfortunately, Dry is from Kazakhstan||

[blissful ivy]

[blissful ivy]

did you see the image i sent you?

kasrkin armor

[thick sedge]

where 0.9.5 alpha

[cursive wagon]

Yea

[celest sparrow]

in my van if you want to try it out

[cursive wagon]

Lolipop?

[severe wren]

I noticed that i've been getting precisely 0 stash locations past the army warehouse, is it because i haven't done radar yet? Or has there been a change so you can't farm stash locations below red forest to get stashes in jupiter and beyond?

because i tell ya, it hurts to have done radar just now and have no stashes in red forest waiting for me

[thick sedge]

my butt hurts what's happening

[vivid turret]

! Stash

[dawn marten]

Stashes are empty by default. Getting stashes is the main way of progressing in GAMMA. White stashes can contain helpful gear, while yellow stashes are guaranteed to have a toolkit in addition to regular stash contents. Stash locations are determined based on where you are when you receive the coordinate, they always generate in or near the area you are currently located.

How to get stash coordinates:

1. Complete tasks (this is the main source of stash coordinates)
2. Loot dead bodies
3. Read looted PDAs (right click -> View them in inventory). If it's locked, go to a mechanic to unlock it
4. Buy coordinates from Sid or Cold (only available in the south)

How to get yellow stashes:

1. Complete 7 tasks
2. Get a stash coordinate afterwards - this can be from any source, e.g. the 8th task, a PDA, looting a body
3. That stash coordinate has a 50% chance to be a yellow stash. If you didn't get it, keep doing step 2 until you get a yellow stash

Exact stash location generation spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uQxe5sVL5UHHkGYdRqtgsh5OrLX1MfwdZrMJG1IuRAs/edit?usp=sharing
Tool chance spreadsheet: !tools

[vivid turret]

Get past red forest and you'll have plenty of stashes

[grave pivot]

How do i maintain a barrel without a toolkit? I know that a ramrod exists but idk why its not working

[severe wren]

meaning i need to go run around jupiter in absolutely dogwater gear, desperately trying to get expert tools so i can get my actual gear running. The pain begins again

[green gyro]

cleaning kit

[grave pivot]

I got a DVL 10 sniper with a green Barrel, i got all the green parts for the Sniper, but the Barrel is at 70%

[severe wren]

Also, does anyone know a way to get like, 600kg of gear from rostok to jupiter that doesn't involve running back and forth 17 times?

[grave pivot]

Cleaning kit... Ill take a look.

[thick sedge]

recruit people

[dusk vessel]

you can put it next to the guide at the bar

into chests

[severe wren]

you are a fucking genius

[dusk vessel]

put it into your invenotory and talk to the guide, you can still purchase his fast travel while having 2.1 tons of stuff

[severe wren]

i hadn't even considered teleporting

[dusk vessel]

thats what i did already

once youve fast traveled just put down any chest and do move all

you can exceed the weight limit of chests by using move all

normally i dont endorse exploits but some just avoid a headache lmao

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow got covert ops achievement by being very noticed and seen (literally rogue + t3 jump height arti + t3 skates let me just jump into the second floor and talk to carter LMAO)

[severe wren]

Aye, i'd rather not turn my brain into porridge from running back and forth between rostok and jupiter at least 20 times. I'll arrange the Great Move from rostok into my traditional Jupiter Gooncave

[celest sparrow]

it's exactly what I did

[vivid turret]

Get a cleaning kit of your weapon, there's supposed to be a letter corresponding to the cleaning kit

[turbid frigate]

I am wondering, is going all the way to Jupiter/Zaton early game worth it for the Expert tool loot pool? Like travel by guide, is it even possible?

[thick sedge]

grok add sensible moving system and a 20% chance your caravan gets raided

[grave pivot]

Brain Scorcher

[thick sedge]

don't wanna see fellow stalkers with 800 kilos on their pockets right

[vivid turret]

You'll get your brains fried still

[turbid frigate]

Man I thought I could go early game

[sick yoke]

unfortunately i'm kind of running out of ingame time for the speedrun achievement

only 15 ingame hours left

[grave pivot]

Gotta kill a morbillion monolithians with Mid game gear first, Stalker

[vivid turret]

Not even mid game most of the time

[celest sparrow]

you're pretty much at the end
you got through the longest part so you should be fine

[turbid frigate]

I have done that a gazzilion times already it's getting repetitive

[celest sparrow]

I think

[grave pivot]

I got blessed with a nearly fully repaired AK at Day 3 lol

[vivid turret]

Raid on BS with a PM

[sick yoke]

at the second bs runthrough so yeah more or less

[celest sparrow]

having to find Carter is my least favorite part of the playthrough

[turbid frigate]

Play Freedom or Merc and you will encounter Monolith day one, from my experience that is the case

[vivid turret]

Lucky bastard..

[sick yoke]

did not realize how goated rogue arti is though

[turbid frigate]

My current run, day one at Merc Dead center, all hard survival difficulty. Right after spawn like 1 minute, a Merc Master died to a Pseudogiant and drop a green barrel SIG 550 and a green barrel Coonan

[vivid turret]

What's coonan

First time hearing

[thick sedge]

that handgun

.357 goonan

just another hardballer...

[turbid frigate]

Coonan is the youngre shittier brother of the 50. AE deseart eagle

[vivid turret]

Uh huh.

[turbid frigate]

It's the Deagle, but worse in every way

[vivid turret]

Man I once found RSh

But then I fucked up and died

[turbid frigate]

Here, notice the green barrel on both guns in my equip, this is 1 minute after spawn in New Game btw

Look at my rank and money for proof of New Game spawn

[vivid turret]

100% armor parts?

Looks sketchy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299198976293208136/1465355661843108054/togif-4-1.gif

[dusk vessel]

you can go there for like 20 seconds

until you die a scripted death

gotta disable miracle machine and brain scorcher but those arent too difficult

[grave pivot]

And a SIG 550 too, although i chose the AK since NATO weapons are harder to acquire as Duty

[vivid turret]

It's def less than 20

Around 10

[vivid turret]

I got both UNISG RDs on Jupiter

I think it was Jupiter

The 9x39 and AK

[grave pivot]

Time and Underestimation is the only true Obstacle to MM and BS,

Ever since my sorry ass ran out of Ammo when i raided MM and BS for the first time, i knew that 1k rounds for each gun shall be my standard for the two

[vivid turret]

Mm is easy if u get a buncha balls, BS can be passed with uh

The ghost artefact

I forgor name

[grave pivot]

Ohhh, the Phantom Star?

[vivid turret]

Yes

[grave pivot]

I never thought of that Ngl

Quite a genius idea

[turbid frigate]

Yeah he drop all of that with 100% some reason, not all though, his exo model should has like 6 parts but I only got 4

[vivid turret]

If you have more than 100 movespeed, you pass it right in time before it dissapears

But a bunch of mutants spawn there amd the can block you

[grave pivot]

Red line Jacket, and a bunch of Phantom stars

[vivid turret]

Yup

One is enough, you can use other perk arts to repair it

Problem stands is that you gotta find Phantom star in the first place

[severe wren]

Lmao, tried to jump to jupiter from rostok with over a ton of gear on me and the game crashed

[vivid turret]

But the moment you take off Phantom star everyone starts tracking you

[turbid frigate]

I clear BS with SR-2M always, in close quarter it is a laser beam

[vivid turret]

So better be wuick with it

Quick*

[turbid frigate]

I remember back in the day when GAMMA only has like 300 or so mods, I tried the Phantom Star, walked into a group of enemies and activated my Exo PSU surge. It pulse with electricity and downed all of them, I then go around and stab them with my Kukri, was fun

[dusk vessel]

for miracle machine you do need to bring a lot of ammo

and some IEDs

but brain scorcher you dont need that much ammo, rather good aim and positioning

[tough prawn]

i genuinely think mm is worse than bs

[dusk vessel]

i mean bs you deal with radiation

road to bs is just as hard as bs itself sometimes

[grave pivot]

There is no limit to Dakka, bring Hip along and have her carry 30 kilos of Ammo

[dusk vessel]

!hip

[dawn marten]

🫵

[dusk vessel]

i play factions who are enemy with loner anyway

[grave pivot]

I use hip for practicality.

I simply love men more, but for some reason she is somehow invincible

[dusk vessel]

ive killed her more than once i dont think shes invincible lol

i mean i didnt kill her specifically just whenever i attack rookie village

[grave pivot]

To npcs, she is basically a meatshield, but she is as vurenable as any stalker when you shoot her

[dusk vessel]

ah

i guess its a good companion for new players to have

i prefer playing the game myself than watching an npc do fighting for me

there is other games for that lol

[grave pivot]

Thats fair, i like it more aswell. Although having a buddy would be nice imo

Cant go wrong with another pair of Eyes and Ears (and a backpack )

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow speedrun achievement done 👍

i do think i was kind of cutting it close though

[severe wren]

got expert tools out of the first yellow stash from pripyat

hybrid suit and sphere helm, here i come!

[sick yoke]

anyway my build now basically just makes me immortal lol

80% dodge + 60% bullet res is so silly

[celest sparrow]

Now for another run

[sick yoke]

Yeah unironically

I’m going to do more runs to keep getting the arena arti lol

It’s a good unbreakable arti that I can just fill my belt with in early game

Also I have infinite hat uses too because there’s an uncommon arti that repairs hat by 2% for every kill during perk lol

[median ridge]

Dodge?

[lost bridge]

Fucking loners spawned right in front of my position and mistook one guy in an exosuit as a monolith near X-8 and had to reload because there was another squad in there I pissed off

[severe wren]

so artefact aplication modules no longer exist? You can just hang artifacts directly on the belt?

[scenic trench]

only exist for a few mission types
otherwise you can slap em on whenever you want

[severe wren]

understood

[tough prawn]

is jumping really fuck all effective against giants?

[scenic trench]

its not
but the timing for the stomp is, kinda finicky

[dry bone]

be me, grind tasks for yellow stashes, hope for advanced tools, forget that advanced tools can be crafted...

[severe wren]

I've seen screenshots of people having an extra gun in their vision slot, is that somewhere i have to toggle or is that just a feature of some special guns?

[fallen atlas]

The game recognizes the jump as long as the velocity is making you go up.
The moment you start going back down the slam will get you

[severe wren]

cause i tried to fit a pistol in there and it wouldnt go

[tough prawn]

the "fuck miracle machine, never going back there again" fit

now to farm and BS

[tough prawn]

good to know

used up 300 hydrashock

[fallen atlas]

I was surprised to find that out too btw.

I figured the game would be checking if you're touching the ground

[tough prawn]

who codes with logic am I right?

[fallen atlas]

But nope, it checks if you're flying upwards.
Falling and standing does not count 😂

[tough prawn]

GSC were the pioneers of vibecoding even before gen AI was around

[humble saffron]

is because yo shotgun only got two shots

[tough prawn]

I was using a ump

I swapped after

[humble saffron]

rest in peace

hydra shok not the same after the rebalances 🥀

[tough prawn]

45 hydra a shadow of its former self

[grave pivot]

How do i get rid of the white fog i get when i go to a radiation spot? Its pretty annoying and it hinders my ability to aim because in some cases i wouldnt be able to see a damn thing.

[near estuary]

!radnoise

[dawn marten]

@grave pivot
To disable the radiation noise/grain effect, do the following:

1. Go to [GAMMA]\mods\G.A.M.M.A. Radiation Dynamic Areas\gamedata\configs\zones
2. Open zone_field_radioactive.lxt and find the line

postprocess = postprocess_rad
Comment it out like in the image example below, with ; in front of it

3. Save the file.
   ⠀

[near estuary]

it's already extremely low but here you go

[grave pivot]

Noted, tysm

[autumn ferry]

Bruh acar artifact is so goated

I found that shit randomly

Like going against only physical dmg peak
Going only against psy damage peak

Going against both u will get destroyed twice faster but i aint complainin

That shitvrestores hp and psyhp at fucking amazing rate

I also have a heart

Like wquip heart and scar, pop a medkit just in case if ur like fighting wgen fighting on enemies and u basically have uber from tf2

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-team-fortress2-uber-ubercharge-gif-25046063

[quick jacinth]

is it a bug that Deer Hunter says in its description that it uses Lupua, but shows Federal?

[green shale]

where does it show federal

take a screenshot

[quick jacinth]

here

[waxen plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C80TWlTC1o

[green shale]

that would be because this mod exists

G.A.M.M.A. Deer Hunter as 338 Federal

[waxen plinth]

is it worth attracting the devs attention?

[quick jacinth]

ah, ok, its just a remnant in the description, got it

[green shale]

yep

[quick jacinth]

and if i want to bring it back as lupua, should i just disable this mod or it is now intended to be federal?

[hollow wadi]

Oh hey look GMTOP :DDDDDDDD

[hollow wadi]

Just disable the mod, yes

[wanton veldt]

how do i fix this

[hollow wadi]

!shaders innit

[dawn marten]

@wanton veldt To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.

[grave pivot]

Why it all so dark

[edgy moon]

Here's Semenov, able to facetank and solo a pseudogiant, but become paper thin once he's with you

[grave pivot]

Btw, do yall have any food mods besides western goods that yall would recommend?

My stalker is feeling quite hungry.

[green shale]

man that description just reads like someone copy pasted the marketing blurb. it's so self congratulatory

[severe wren]

Your aura is too weak, thus you weaken him to the point he becomes mortal 😔

[quasi grove]

man i do not understand gamma sometimes

yesterday i could lunch the game no problem today it dies

[quiet wasp]

Is there any crazy mod that adds a handheld Dushka, NSV, W85, Kord or whatever else there is chambered in 12.7x108?

Or maybe mounts them around the map?

[nocturne trench]

are the revolvers in stalker any good

I wanna big iron

[tough prawn]

Which stalker

Theres like 2 in gamma default

Maybe 3 with the mateba? Not sure if its enabled

[hard mural]

Lol, such a funny name

[lethal steeple]

numbers at the bottom are accurate sometimes

[green shale]

oh, true, accurate-ish

a sliding scale of accuracy

[lethal steeple]

bullet speed is 0.67x what it should be for example

damage too

recoil control is ??????

[green shale]

recoil control may well be accurate in the sense that it is performing some calculation on an actual stat of the gun, it's just meaningless

(versus "inaccurate because someone literally typed numbers in a node in an xml file")

[near estuary]

[green shale]

amended

[dusk vessel]

I always wondered if the +5 is just written or actually working when shooting bolt actions

Not like it matters for this particular rifle but in general

[lethal steeple]

what if you get the mythical babushka sewn weapons that are made of textiles and sometimes a whole jacket

(i know it's visual and fixes itself when hovering again)

[lethal steeple]

it works on some bolt actions

it's extremely inconsistent

[green shale]

iirc the +5 is hardcoded into most of the bolties in the gbo script because of course it is

but god knows if that's getting updated to cover new weapons as they're added/removed

[lethal steeple]

some bolts that don't have the bonus were justified by grok with "well it's because the ammo is only fired by bolts" but then the k98 has the bonus

[dusk vessel]

Even the mk2

[lethal steeple]

some lapuas don't get the bonus

some do

[green shale]

you're basically seeing the fundamental issue with deciding "all damage should be decided by the bullet's caliber" and then going "ah shit this makes most guns completely pointless replicas of each other"

and inconsistently applying fixes to calibers sometimes, and to individual guns at others

[dusk vessel]

Well... Barrel length should matter a lot for damage

[lethal steeple]

and also the fundamental issue with bloating the gun selection all the way to the andromeda galaxy

[dusk vessel]

Velocity times mass equals force or something like that

[lethal steeple]

bro just can't remember all the guns

[dusk vessel]

Always found it funny that short barrel guns do the same dmg as long barrel

[lethal steeple]

not always

but yeah

[dusk vessel]

Some exceptions

[lethal steeple]

consistently inconsistent

[green shale]

hot take: in a shooter with arcade roots, gun stats should not be an emergent principle of physical properties of their IRL counterparts

that way lies madness

i mean that's not a hot take at all but it's how you get swarmed by realism bros

[dusk vessel]

You can take irl as a guide but gameplay always comes first

[lethal steeple]

even tarkov prioritizes gameplay over realismo accuracy

which is crazy

[tough prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-i-don't-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-gif-1116642795181823087

Me in my run cuz the tedium is too much

Gonna play ZI instead

[hushed pier]

pussy try dildo only run while enemies have aimbot and you get no money

[tough prawn]

Self harm

[valid crater]

There's the Rex and there's that real big D-Type one, forgot the name, think it used the same ammunition as the Vykhlop.

[tough prawn]

Rsh 12

I think

[dusk vessel]

Its a 5 round 12.7x55 revolver

Can take some scopes too

Just use the escape of tarkov wiki if you want to know about gamma guns

[stiff wyvern]

brother, i just went AW day ONE to fight some mercs with fanatic

[rose musk]

all I get from this convo is just run a hornet and you'll be alright

[stiff wyvern]

both recipes and look at those guns

[valid crater]

Yeah, basically you can use a ShAK 12, Vykhlop and the RSh 12 and use the same ammunition for all of them.

[stiff wyvern]

[rose musk]

[dusk vessel]

Could prolly solo the whole game with just the hornet

Its really good

[rose musk]

100% you could

[valid crater]

Well, that Exo recipe should not drop that early with that low rank and low scavenging skill, it should despawn I think,

[stiff wyvern]

it can drop, it is just extremely rare

i had have seen it several times during several patches and playthroughs before the scav level requirement

[valid crater]

Looks to me like progression was set to "full" instead of default setting.

[stiff wyvern]

nope

vanilla gamma

• mags

[lethal steeple]

that option doesn't affect the book's drop chance

it's only for armor and helmets

and you unlock every armor and helmet at around 6k rank xp

which is attained in like a day and a half ingame on a bad playthrough

[cedar bramble]

peeps you think anomaly will ever be updated again to 1.5.4 or 1.6/2.0?

[dusk vessel]

There is some legend stalkers in aw usually

Either loner merc or freedom

[lethal steeple]

there is work being done on 1.6 but since like 3 years ago at this point

[rose musk]

random bandit legend in AW with a makarov and a nosorog

[lethal steeple]

progress IS being made tho

just EXTREMELY slowly

[cedar bramble]

@lethal steeple yes the last blog entry is like almost 3 years ago, is there even dev team anymore?

[dusk vessel]

You just know that guy has seen everything and shot everything

[lethal steeple]

the thing with 1.6 is that it'll basically be a new modding platform altogether so gamma will remain on 1.5.x

[lethal steeple]

yeah but they don't post in the anomaly server

funnily enough

idk why and idc enough to ask

but i've seen progress videos and pics

[cedar bramble]

good to hear theres some development going

they should also merge the custom engines we got in recent years[including the name that cant be spoken]

[lethal steeple]

aoe isn't even open source dawg how would they merge it

[cedar bramble]

maybe it will be open in future, also there are other xray forks

[atomic pebble]

To 1.5.4, not to 1.6

[lethal steeple]

like my guess is that work on 1.6 slowed down to a crawl because people are waiting on yohjimane to complete his work on openxray

since he did talk about making the oxr changes available to anomaly

that's just my theory tho

[cedar bramble]

like if the mushroom engine devs didnt monetize that engine for that long, why keep it closed source. You keep it closed source mostly for being an
EGO prick OR monetizing it.

which neither apply

[atomic pebble]

Yes, just the devs are doing other thingis, Anomaly 1.6 right now isn't their focus

[lethal steeple]

why do people insist that closed source is a thing of ego

[dusk vessel]

He did say neither apply

[lethal steeple]

ye true

still a valid comment to make

but true

[wintry frigate]

been playing Project Silverfish all week and now i want to just go back to gamma.....

[dusk vessel]

You can hide all sorts of malicious things in closed source so yeah

[atomic pebble]

The people just want polish his engine or smth brat, apart the main dev isn't only just working on that addon, or shrimply they don't want someone take his addon and that people like certain user had the probability of don't put their names on the credits and complain to em when the addon doens't works as ideal

[lethal steeple]

same way you can do so in open source projects

[cedar bramble]

my opinion is that if you dont want to monetize project, you then keep it closed because you have your own vision that is only right for something and dont want others to spoil it, or want to keep it the code for yourself to have it only for yourself, your own cool creation that others can only admire, but not copy or built upon. Sometimes you also dont want forks because people will make crap and then that crap will be associated with your work.

[lethal steeple]

not a solid point imhi

o

[dusk vessel]

At least there you can look for it

[lethal steeple]

yeah but repositories are huge

sure lemme look around in one of the idk libraries to find a suspicious block of base64 vomit

[dusk vessel]

Lmao

Fair enough

[harsh sandal]

[atomic pebble]

Me when i see gamedata.sq in OGSR mods :

[harsh sandal]

Good I love find the scanner quest inside a burning house in AW

[cedar bramble]

hmmm ive played it so long ago, i havent remember the data folder files, the gamedata was obfuscated by packing it in sql library?

[atomic pebble]

Current OGSR mods like Secret Trails Remake and NLC Improved have a new format of .DB, gamedata.sq where the mods are compressed ("closed source improved").
I tried to extract Secret Trails Remake and NLC Improved with my "common extractor" and it just doens't extract

[dusk vessel]

Ah yeah

Some modern games also use a gamedb file

If thats decrypted people can mod the game freely in many cases

[cedar bramble]

i would pack the gamedata and salt it with some inane phrase and use on the fly decryption like bitlocker/truecrypt that come with the mod hehe.

[atomic pebble]

Or like the devs of New Project that basically did a system that do bullying to u if u try to extract the mod

[cedar bramble]

what did they do?

[unkempt glen]

If I clear all the bandits in an area for a spring cleaning task, can I just let it be for bandits to respawn to track them even more?

or does it stop highlighting bandits after I clear the map once

[atomic pebble]

The devs of New Project bulit a in-engine system against the extraction of the files, while u are in the process the system will generate random crashes and spawn a comment "making fun of u", soo basically is impossible get the files uncompressed if u aren't a dev

[cedar bramble]

neither monetizing the project, and not allowing it to be open source, the verdict is ego disorder heh

[atomic pebble]

Maybe they will make the mod open source when it be completed with the chapter 3, idk

[atomic pebble]

my opinion is that if you dont want to monetize project, you then keep it closed because you have your own vision that is only right for something and dont want others to spoil it, or want to keep it the code for yourself to have it only for yourself, your own cool creation that others can only admire, but not copy or built upon.

Also:

neither monetizing the project, and not allowing it to be open source, the verdict is ego disorder heh

[cedar bramble]

ok. give them some leeway, let them cook, release final version and maybe then open it up after you accomplished your release and get all the praise.

[wintry nova]

how do you get artefacts volume 3 since the rework? i'm at max eco rep and they don't have it

[sick yoke]

in jupiter

[oblique shadow]

loot is preset now?

[wintry nova]

they didn't have it either

[sharp schooner]

find it off master and legend stlakers

[radiant star]

rep wont matter, book 2 and 3 is at juputer station eco bunker

[wintry nova]

any particular faction?

[sharp schooner]

pretty much anything i think

[radiant star]

!exo / that only goes for book 4

[dawn marten]

@wintry nova
Exoskeleton Repair Kit craft recipe can be found with 4% chance when looting stalkers of:

• Monolith, Sin, UNISG and Mercenaries of Master or Legend rank
• other factions (except Renegades) of Legend rank
  (GAMMA 0.9.4) This is also true for the T4 Artefact Recipe.

[sharp schooner]

oh he said 3

my bad

then uhh

iunno

wait for ecos to restock

[wintry nova]

whatevr book lets me do the final artefacts

[sharp schooner]

thatd be 4

u find that off stalkers

legend master whatever

[wintry nova]

because i've read two books and can craft tier 3 aretfacts, so i was thkning the third book

so murder rampage time

[sick yoke]

it's book 3 but t4

because lol i guess

[wintry nova]

time to pull out the saw and farm limansk

[opaque moss]

and party and lucy are still (somewhat actively i believe) working on the scripted attachments thingy

which i'm pretty sure is the main focus of 1.6

[grave solar]

average discord user cannot fathom things that make perfect sense.

[drifting trench]

hey, if I want to install a reshade, how do I need to do it? Can i just do it like any other mod, over the MO2 or is there a special way to install it?

[near estuary]

#╟🎑reshades message

[drifting trench]

which should i use

[near estuary]

gee idk

what do you run GAMMA with

[unique harness]

directx11 and 12

for amd gpus use vulkan

[drifting trench]

ok

[unique harness]

for older games and games like minecraft you should run opengl

[drifting trench]

then vulkan for me

[unique harness]

directx would fit too, you should try to use both first

[near estuary]

directx supremacy

[unique harness]

because vulkan is not that wide used so it may perform worse than directx

[drifting trench]

ok

thanks

[unique harness]

yw

i love how i got this error and trying to translate it, it leads me to rickroll

god damn i love this community.

[near estuary]

idk why but I will never find rickroll funny

there are SO MANY better things for that

[unique harness]

it seems funny in moments when you never anticipate it

[near estuary]

stickbug will always be my baby

[unique harness]

stickbug is cool but its not that recognizable amongst the most

[agile epoch]

It may not be the sidearm of a carpenter but this is the holy grail itself

Extendo mags and the 'switch' as the kids say these days

The Korth will bring you to Glory

[unique harness]

korth-6 🐐

[agile epoch]

why the fuck do they all go to the Swamp

I fuckin hate the Swamp

[atomic pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-slap-toy-stretch-toy-abuse-gif-8522373636109174808

[hushed pier]

funny clip today https://kick.com/jundolla/clips/clip_01KG38X5KRQ7XRNPM3C16RPJY8

[undone osprey]

that doesn't mean your open source xray fork is safe to use

there is a reason we disabled a few things in 1.5.x update

[undone osprey]

DirectX

[undone osprey]

nah thank you

[inner heron]

Does anyone know if duty and clear sky are going to be enemies once the armor rework happens? Or has that already been implemented

[autumn ferry]

Hey u guys know how to fix scopes having afterimage when ids and move em

[blissful ivy]

its not in the game yet

no

[inner heron]

Thank you, been a while since I've played

Would be really cool to see how it plays out in game

[blissful ivy]

i mean, i dont think much changes, ofc clear sky wouldnt roam to rostok anymore, and they would fight each other

[cursive wagon]

Loners get free clear sky rep doing missions in rostok after interacting with them once, im assuming thats being changed

[inner heron]

Yeah, more so want to try a cs playthrough again. I did one a while ago and it plays just like a loner. Swamp gets old fast

[cursive wagon]

So cs lovers have to actually hang out in the swamps

[blissful ivy]

that too i suppose

[blissful ivy]

good

GOOD

filter out the fake fans

rat bastards go "oh but i love cs" then say the swamps are the inner most circle of hell

[cursive wagon]

The more that join me in swamp rat behavior the better

[blissful ivy]

fuck outta here

lying fuckers

[lilac nymph]

The ammo ui wheel likes to show me my 7.62x54 ammo icon for everything

The wheel still works,

[inner heron]

The great swamp is awesome, very pretty too, but it's so repetitive after a while

[lilac nymph]

Fuck swamps

[cursive wagon]

There just gonna say they love CS and yet never send a picture of them even interacting with them or the swamps

[blissful ivy]

indeed

[sinful vessel]

Ah, finally get to message on here. I'm part of the cool kids now.

[marsh bridge]

a CS saved me as a dutier from a unisg in zaton one time so im cool with them now but im still not going to their shitty swamp ever not even if theres 3 yellow stashes there

[sick yoke]

they'd all be basics/med/gunsmith anyway

[agile epoch]

Ok so can't make medium kits yet and I'm doing a limited inventory challenge. Need to get rid of one of these. Nomad has more mags and carry capacity but the SEVA has 5 artis and pretty comparable otherwise.
Do you think the magazine capacity is worth that?

I'm thinking not, really. Once I get an advanced kit the backpacks will make up for the difference. And the SEVA has great psy protection.

Answered my own question I did

[marsh bridge]

theres an addon that adds craftable/buyable magazine pouches that go in the artifact slots that increase mag capacity for the specific size type

[agile epoch]

Might as well take the Nomad at that point

[celest sparrow]

okay but you can be like Strelok by taking the SEVA

[agile epoch]

ngl if I'm going for looks or rp or whatever the Nomad suit has absolute drip

Have you SEEN the badass hood

just looks so pro

[lethal patrol]

i gotta go back to zero investment soon, been on endfield lately

i still havent done my evil playthrough

[graceful quiver]

The AI seeing through grass is indeed annoying, but past that Great Swamp has become a memorable place for me lol

[oblique shadow]

anyone know if its ok to run momopate loot stabilizer? i remember playing with it a long time ago and caused some problems

[agile epoch]

AWRITE what the fuck game. Why do you have to put it in one of the places I just can't get to right now.

[daring crown]

disguise

[agile epoch]

The Wish Granter being a dick

[celest sparrow]

simply conjure "Nah I'd win" and you'll be able to get it

[agile epoch]

I have done that before but that ain't happening with a 590 and a Mosin right now lol

[real crypt]

The more I look in this server the more I realize that GAMMA players will spend their time doing anything but actually playing the game

[celest sparrow]

that's the GAMMA standard

[agile epoch]

tru but I'm not sure any stash is worth lugging a whole ass other suit that I gotta repair first

[daring crown]

I've just gotten off after playing 4h straight

[celest sparrow]

the Discord is just a lot more entertaining than the actual game

[daring crown]

any light duty armor is good enough

[real crypt]

I made the mistake of getting my friend into the game and when I came back he immediately asked me which gun to keep from a body and I was like FUCKING RUN DUMBASS YOU ARE IN A BLOWOUT

[graceful quiver]

birds crow
loud earth shaking rumbles
environment turns to hellscape
drawn out klaxon
Loot goblin friend: Which gun do I keep???

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[daring crown]

i laugh but I'd also be that guy

just drink the antibiotics or whatever

[graceful quiver]

Always carry one anabiotics indeed~

[obsidian dawn]

legitimately used to spend my off days starting up gamma, playing for 10-20 minutes then spending the next hour or so talking in chat

repeat until i complete a full playthrough

[solar chasm]

rofl

[atomic pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-it's-peak-mid-it's-mid-shaking-head-gif-14930609437819582275

[tribal steeple]

I am convinced guns in CoP are made out of cardboard
1-2 mags deep of semi-auto tapping and now im rolling d20s to see if my shots land on target

[blissful ivy]

yep

thats why i play gunslinger cop

makes it bearable

exept burers

those fuckers suck ass

[tribal steeple]

It only sucks because both SoC and CS had workshop mods that increased accuracy overall to negate it but CoP doesnt have it,

[fossil parcel]

shadow of chernobyl forever my goat

even if it’s lacking in so many aspects

every time strelok was on screen it was such a “hell yeah”

[dusk vessel]

just ran into a mono squad in wild territory thats never happend to me before lol

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow which mission is mausoleum btw

there's an achievement to do mausoleum and parasha code without killing anyone or something

[celest sparrow]

Oh

[sick yoke]

just don't remember what mission mausoleum is

[celest sparrow]

It's the Sarcophagus and MCC

[tall flower]

who should i side with for hips tasks barkeep or freedom?

[celest sparrow]

You just run and ignore everyone

[sick yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

that's going to be so fucked

thanking god for my ictv i guess

[celest sparrow]

I don't even remember if the CNPP counts

I simply didn't kill anyone

[blissful ivy]

CoP has them though

i thought

and SoC didnt have upgrades

just uniques that only lasted until they broke

but CoP has upgrades

[tribal steeple]

Oh I meant like steam workshop mods

[blissful ivy]

oh, just go get gunslinger of moddb

which is where most mods are

but you need a new game for GS

[tribal steeple]

Eh I can live with it its just annoying lol

[harsh sandal]

Incredible

After a hard fight in front of the hangar in garbage, I was on low HP. But because I ran out of med, I had to get inside the hangar to heal a bit at the campfire

The moment I stepped inside the main gate of the hangar, I faced the entire merc squad

[valid crater]

Someone got mercantiled.

[harsh sandal]

New run it is

[hollow wadi]

Mercs holding train depot, don't see that often

[graceful quiver]

I have seen a merc army spawned and almost took out both the Rostok entrance and Market

It's wild how these things can still happen outside of warfare

[dusk vessel]

military spawn inside of dead city merc base quite often

[blissful ivy]

i know its awesome

free missions and loot

[normal island]

GAMMA user discovers STALKER actually sucks ass

Endearing

[hushed pier]

im still goin

[blissful ivy]

make sure you keep that barrel good on that val, dont wanna lose the ability to fix it

[unkempt glen]

man this second yellow stash is fucking goated

free new sniper

that I could totally shift into lapua mag

it also came with an l85 but I would scrap that fucking trash so goddamn fast even if it had a green barrel

[sick yoke]

you can't change it to lapua

[unkempt glen]

The deer hunter kit doesn't change it?

[sick yoke]

you aren't supposed to be able to get the deer hunter kit

[unkempt glen]

I see

[sick yoke]

and it changes it to .338 federal now

the description is wrong

[unkempt glen]

dogstuck poltergeist

IT WASN'T STUCK

[near estuary]

[blissful ivy]

What goodies might be in here

[near estuary]

what's this mod called?

I feel like gambling

is this the thing?

[blissful ivy]

yes

that is

that rifle case had a shitass SA-58 AUS

no green barrel like the other 2 i opened

[near estuary]

kek

[blissful ivy]

the other 2 dropped a green barrel .338 and a green SVDS

so

yeah

[tribal steeple]

Nah it doesnt suck, ive actually really enjoyed SoC & CoP, just obviously dated mechanics, CS was pure ass though which I expected since everyone in here has openly shat on it.
CoP feels like the best of the 3 by a good bit, SoC is good too but not as explorative, but for an intro game its very solid

I did just run into this though thankfully they are invincible untill I get close to them

[unkempt glen]

Bro's chilling

[rigid stream]

bros indeed chilling while getting his dick bited off.

[severe wren]

They're scratching that itch, you know

Anyways, i've seen some people somehow shove guns into their vision slot, and me being a slut for guns, i greatly desire this forbidden power

is it a mod i need to download or a toggle somewhere in the gamma settings i need to find?

[unkempt glen]

not from what I remember

just pistols

and like three smgs

the MP7, P-90, and the russian one

[tribal steeple]

Im glad you guys noticed Vano too lmfao

[severe wren]

i tried to shove a p90 in there and it wouldn't go, and none of my guns go there

[unkempt glen]

oh wait you meant vision

idk then

you can put em in your melee slot

and then your knife in the vision slot

[severe wren]

yeah, some whores have the power to put a FOURTH gun into the vision slot, and i WANT THIS!!

I want to quad wield guns, armed to the teeth like a crazed lunatic

[tribal steeple]

yeah ok that PFP is fitting

[dusk vessel]

I think you can do it yourself

By editing the guns file

You can make any gun fit in pistol slot this way idk about vision, should be possible too

Could probably open a knives .ltx with text editor and see what makes it fit into vision

Then add that into a guns .ltx

Havent tested im just making an idea

[severe wren]

maybe my lust for wielding 4 guns will overwhelm me sometime and i'll do that

[dusk vessel]

Its not more than just changing some text lines but be careful with that

[severe wren]

my sickening greed for more guns

[dusk vessel]

Probably have to do it for each gun induvidually

[blissful ivy]

just wiped rookie

only one that posed a threat got a 40mm to the jaw

[near estuary]

this fucker was in truck cemetery 5 seconds ago

what the fuck

[blissful ivy]

also i just realized how shit the why we cant have nice things quest is

youre telling me some guy said "yup, 8k is enough for allat"

[blissful ivy]

npc transition magic

thats how it works

he will be in rostok by the time you get the WT too

so just go to rostok

[near estuary]

does turning off alife stop this?

cuz I'm genuinely tired of bullshit like this

[covert nova]

Dude be like

https://klipy.com/gifs/dayz-dance

[daring anvil]

FUCK ME.... this game sometimes...

I went to jupiter after the "no step back" quest for mercs...

train tunnel near helipads between bandit camp.... stash is chilling.

walk up hill to ventilation complex.... 2 chimeras.... wonderful night of stalker gamma

beautiful clear weather in the zone... but don't be fooled.... it's still cold

[covert nova]

Tbf, you can never really be off-guard especially in the north. The map isn't big enough for you and everything else that is trying to kill you

[near estuary]

yeah fuck this shit

zoneraker fails instantly as soon as I enter the map

BUT

only the spy dies

the other guy somehow sets up camp in the bandit base with NOBODY SPOTTING HIM

and then instakills me when I go buy ammo from Olivius

why do I even bother

[grave pivot]

I just got my 8th Basic Toolkit and 6th medical kit. And NO gunsmithing kit.

Gentlemen, i think i am going insane.

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-meme-seiun-sky-laughing-ishowspeed-gif-14113194394369007579

Im going to sacrifice a Rookie to Grok to let me be able to craft bullets,, puh fucing LEASE give me a Gunsmithing kit

STOP GIVING ME GREEN BARREL GUNS, AAAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAA

[frank oxide]

Just go clear 3 locations for Clear Sky

[grave pivot]

Im duty.

Ohh wait

I have a few IEDs

:)

Wait i can just craft it too

oh.

[unkempt glen]

fucks sake I gotta start taking nades off my belt when I'm in rostok

fatfingered G

very angry dutiers

[blissful ivy]

this is why no one touches zoneraker

because its retarded

[mental furnace]

no chimera hunter for you

[dusk vessel]

Force meadow stash i guess

[near estuary]

I hate it myself but there was literally no other quest besides it and that kill quest on that duty guy that just decided to vanish

"freedom start is great" my ass

[severe wren]

Why?! WHY the legs!? Why is it always the fucking legs!? What the fuck have my poor feet done to you, you bastard children of the zone!? For fucks sake!

[blissful ivy]

[rigid stream]

live up with all your imagination

[covert nova]

They are trying to aim for your balls, but y'know..

[near estuary]

[severe wren]

Every single mutant hits the legs, even snorks and chimeras, even though those jump around like they're on the fucking moon

[near estuary]

that's why I play with BHS turned off

[covert nova]

And then you take fall damage on your arms instead

[severe wren]

my poor, poor legs!

[blissful ivy]

get shot in the head and it breaks your leg

or some shit

[dusk vessel]

Ibuprofen and fent are your friends

Some random meds also do small leg post heal

[severe wren]

get hit in the legs by a mutant, spend 15 seconds using healing items to heal legs, loot mutant, wait for health to regen by a campfire, start moving. 2 minutes later, another mutant breaks your legs, spend another 15 seconds to heal said legs, loot mutant, wait for health to recover, start moving. Repeat 10000 times, break monitor, jump from window, break your own legs

[dusk vessel]

Or just get passive healing and run through the leg damage

[last mesa]

"Just walk it off"

[dusk vessel]

Exactly

[severe wren]

when i get the knot, i'm going to break all my limbs and never heal them again

[dusk vessel]

Joe swanson playthrough

[grave pivot]

Atleast you'd be wolverine. Just jump to unsheathe your broken ankles and stab em with it

[dusk vessel]

What does knot do btw

Never tried it

I just know you need to feed it artifacts

[grave pivot]

Johnny Joestar Gameplay

[dusk vessel]

Honeslty broken arms are way more annoying than broken legs

[muted spruce]

The rng as a whole is just really bad imo

[dusk vessel]

I ignore broken legs most of the time

[grave pivot]

Agreed, aim sucks

[dusk vessel]

The sway on healed arms is already parkinsons levels

[covert nova]

Just consume copious amounts of bandages and you can't lose

[near estuary]

[dusk vessel]

I have never seen a mf with such unsteady hands as the gamma player

A 3 yearold could hold a gun more steady

[severe wren]

nothing is quite as stalker-core as eating cooked mutant meat at a campfire and smoking a fat dart to make the radiation go away

[near estuary]

[near estuary]

of all the things to bitch about in gamma

the non-existent gun sway

[dusk vessel]

Its just annoying bruh

[near estuary]

it's barely a factor

average engagement distance is like 20 meters

[dusk vessel]

Its still dumb af

I like using bolt actions and scopes

[blissful ivy]

campfire heals limbs enjoyers:

[dusk vessel]

I still hit my shots no problem

Its just an annoyance

Broken arms sway makes sense

[blissful ivy]

ok whats with this guy and his aim?

[dusk vessel]

High off drugs or drunk also makes sense

[blissful ivy]

just has to shove it in where he can

"Oh but I can aim"

[near estuary]

riddle me this
have you ever shot a gun in your life?

[blissful ivy]

no one cares

[last mesa]

It's not true bro I care don't listen to him

[near estuary]

zero sway is only achievable while prone and on a bipod

[blissful ivy]

riddle me this, you cant hold one with broken arms

[near estuary]

you WILL sway when shooting from any other position

[covert nova]

Muh realeezm

[blissful ivy]

but yeah no sway is always there without bracing

[mental furnace]

i cant people still die

[blissful ivy]

you can brace it on your knee to help though

[near estuary]

problem is
the sway IS actually realistic

there should be more sway probably

from a realism point

[blissful ivy]

and when prone with a bipod you still sway because human bodies can NOT stop fucking moving

breathing and shit

[dusk vessel]

No shit

[covert nova]

Yeah, probably. And it was a joke, if it wasn't obvious

[dusk vessel]

Im talking about gameplay

Not real life

[blissful ivy]

because your gun is never fully braced without expensive setups, usually you still manipulate the gun with it to your shoulder

[covert nova]

Gameplay-wise it's pretty standard. Plus you can still hit your shots so why even complain?

[blissful ivy]

but you can Aim™

whats the issue

[dusk vessel]

The shooters i normally play dont have sway

[blissful ivy]

just aim better you clown

[dusk vessel]

Its not fun

[near estuary]

I already pointed out that gun-sway does NOT matter in 99,999999999% of engagements
and when it does, it's so minimal that it may as well not be there

[blissful ivy]

he means CS2

so we can just ignore that

thats like saying "usually i play baby mode, so this normal difficulty shit isnt what im used to"

or smth like that idk

[covert nova]

I'm sure there's a setting if you wanna play point and click with 0 sway. Singleplayer game, play it however you like tbh

[blissful ivy]

you can probably do shit like that yeah

[dusk vessel]

There isnt sway on hipfire iirc

Just inaccuracy

Could just ditch ads, might be better lol

[blissful ivy]

it goes where your crosshair is

so if you have a crosshair it goes there

[dusk vessel]

I have a crosshair

[blissful ivy]

then yeah you can ditch ads

with similar results

[dusk vessel]

I can deal with the sway, as i said i just think its annoying

Ive dealt with it this far anyway

[blissful ivy]

you truly can play it like CS2 giga-sweaty nerd, "shitstains on my underwear", i have a piss bucket to skip bathroom breaks games youre used to

[dusk vessel]

Cunt

[blissful ivy]

maybe

[covert nova]

Well I think there are bigger annoyances than this but I guess free speech or whatever.

[dusk vessel]

Im not like that i havent played cs in months atp

[blissful ivy]

ok and? its not my fault you give off cs player vibes

all you talk about is your aim i swear

always see it

[dusk vessel]

Ah yeah forgot to do that today

My aim is the best

[blissful ivy]

you did that earlier

so you already did it

[dusk vessel]

Doesent hurt to do twice

Or mabye 3 times?

[near estuary]

@blissful ivy and @dusk vessel will now passionately kiss to absolve their differences

[blissful ivy]

not a chance

[covert nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1410296524289609789/1410704161649066014/clip-38635106_4562473412.gif

[dusk vessel]

Its not that deep

[broken mantle]

you have never seen autism like how dudes shave miliseconds off their mouse response with math, just to be better at cs

respect

[dusk vessel]

I dont really care

[near estuary]

and then they get one-tapped by a silver with deagle

[dusk vessel]

Ive seen people like that

Cringe mfs

[broken mantle]

bro thought i was speaking to him 😢

[dusk vessel]

10k hours full sweaty but still shit

Very sad

[sick yoke]

cs2 doesn't have sway, just ungodly movement inaccuracy when inputting any movement for 0.000000000001s

[dusk vessel]

Counter strafing is a fun mechanic at least

[sick yoke]

anyway most games have a way to reduce/remove sway for a period of time (hold breath moment) so gamma not having any way to do it makes the sway feel worse by comparison

[dusk vessel]

I only really notice the sway when using bolt actions with high powered scopes

I know it isnt realistic but thats not what i care about

When i want realistic sway i go to a shooting range, not gamma

Honestly a hold breath would solve it for me

[near estuary]

you have 10k hours on CS and also go outside?
impossible

[dusk vessel]

Pubg and s2 have it afaik

[dusk vessel]

I dont have 10k hours bruh

Not even close

[sick yoke]

oh yeah i'm pretty sure gamma sway is also just more jittery than most other games too

[broken mantle]

how many then

[dusk vessel]

I meant other players ive seen

[sick yoke]

which is especially noticeable on high zooms

[dusk vessel]

2.5k

Since 2017

[broken mantle]

bro thats real sweat territory hahah

2.5k hours in a single game is a looot of time.

[dusk vessel]

Over 9 years? Sure yeah it is

[sick yoke]

2.5k over 9 years isn't that much i think?

[broken mantle]

for me at least, yea. i have the same amount of time so im not hating lol

[near estuary]

I have like 1.5k on PAYDAY 2 since 2015

[dusk vessel]

Im saying ive encountered people with 10-20 thousand hours who still suck

[blissful ivy]

4k hours in dayz

True story

[broken mantle]

payday 2 is goated tho it dont count

[dusk vessel]

I reached the highest rank and retired essentially

[blissful ivy]

Payday 2 is not 1.5k goated

Its good ig

[lost bridge]

Installed CGIM 2 for IWP. Prob not the best screenshot I took, but nonetheless, it a great day to find that stalker who found an artifact

[blissful ivy]

I played it, its ok

[near estuary]

goated is a strong word
lucky and zero competition in the market

[blissful ivy]

But it starts to feel samey fast

[sick yoke]

yeah 2.5k over 9 years averages less than 1 hour per day lol

[broken mantle]

its still is a good game imo, theres nothing like it

payday 3 was an insult lol

[near estuary]

the always-online buried it

the lackluster gameplay didn't help

[sick yoke]

there's a "new" payday 2 mod that i saw that i want to check out with friends

[near estuary]

[sick yoke]

from what i saw it looks pretty cool

[near estuary]

well what's it called

[sick yoke]

restoration mod

[broken mantle]

its not a good idea to make the sequel to ur flagship game, substantially shittier and with less content than what the last game had

[near estuary]

the smaller amount of content is understandable
2 had like a dozen heists when it dropped

what's not understandable is implementing an always-online system for a premium store that never existed

[sick yoke]

yeah that's the jitter i'm talking about

[near estuary]

it doesn't do anything to cheaters either

[sick yoke]

it just super abruptly changes directions and shit

[dusk vessel]

its not noticeable on 1x zoom but on sniper rifles its really noticeable

[broken mantle]

theres a giant market for heist games tbh

[dusk vessel]

yeah exactly

if it was more smooth i think you could use your mouse to keep it on target still

or just hold breath

like so many other games have

[near estuary]

like what?
GTA 5 heists that are 90% busywork and 10% the actual cool heist?
or Crime Boss Rockay city

[broken mantle]

[dusk vessel]

arent they extremely repetetive though

[broken mantle]

payday 2 can be built upon and be done in a really good way

modernize it

[near estuary]

bro

no

[sick yoke]

zero investment is real heist game trust

[near estuary]

payday 2 is a walking corpse from a technical standpoint

[broken mantle]

id play it a lot, how many payday 2 players are there on steam

lemme check

30k players for a 2015 game thats pve

thats great numbers bro

[dusk vessel]

26k rn yeah

[near estuary]

I didn't say it doesn't have players

[sick yoke]

god damn 26k middle of the night

[dusk vessel]

its 36th thats crazy actually

[near estuary]

I said it's stupid to build a skyscraper on quicksand

[dusk vessel]

payday 3 is not even top 100

[sick yoke]

i was expecting like, maybe mid 10k

[broken mantle]

😭

[broken mantle]

lets agree to disagree

plus starbreeze was a great studio

[near estuary]

the reason 2 still has so many players is because 3 flopped hard

[dusk vessel]

its smarter to build something new but what a payday2 playerbase would like

[near estuary]

a studio that went bankrupt like twice

[broken mantle]

two truths can coexist

[broken mantle]

made bangers tho

[dusk vessel]

how is this stupid ass banana game still 19th

what the hell

[near estuary]

all of their games are rushed for quick profit

seriously

look at any of their past work

[broken mantle]

bro is stinky and knows nothing about games

bro u gon sit there and tell me motherfuckin the darkness is a quick profit game

gtfo

[near estuary]

release broken game
patch it up a bit
people buy it
abandon it

rinse and repeat

[broken mantle]

Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons???

yo u just ignorant

thas cool

[dusk vessel]

thats a lot of games

some even skip the patch it up a bit part

[sick yoke]

bongo cat is 4th lmao

[dusk vessel]

what even is that

[near estuary]

You're a dumbass who knows jack shit about Starbreeze and PAYDAY
"LEAVE THE MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ALONE"

you do you man

[broken mantle]

a lil desktop overlay app that taps everytime u click, it counts and has items n stuff

[dusk vessel]

is that this 2014 meme

[broken mantle]

a clicker basically

[dusk vessel]

bruhh

[broken mantle]

hard projection bro

love u hope it gets better

[sick yoke]

essentially just keystroke tracker with the bongo cat meme

you can buy cosmetics and shit i guess

[thick sedge]

hello

wrong emoji damn

[dusk vessel]

tf

[broken mantle]

[broken mantle]

hey bro play this banger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darkness_(video_game) youll like it

[dusk vessel]

nah

this is better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.Y.E.:_Divine_Cybermancy

[broken mantle]

barely comprehensible and extremely hard to get into banger

agreed

[dusk vessel]

french friend recomanded it to me

its jank but fun

[grave pivot]

Whats Starbreeze

[broken mantle]

game studio that are known mainly for the payday franchise

[grave pivot]

I have like, 3k hours in fnv over the span of 4 years

[broken mantle]

basically now is the shell of what it used to be, the dudes from the original studio made a new one called machinegames

[dusk vessel]

people say the best game obsidian made is new vegas but i think its kotor 2

[grave pivot]

Good times, used to spend 8 hours a day patrolling the Mojave

[broken mantle]

banger game

[tribal steeple]

funny duplication glitch

[grave pivot]

New Vegas has its ups and downs. I love it because of the memories i have of it, but it is true that it is old as hell now

[dusk vessel]

well

kotor 2 is from 2004

but exact same dev team as new vegas

playing new vegas after having played kotor 2 a lot you notice it

[broken mantle]

new vegas is an all timer

probably one of the best rpgs u can play rn

[tribal steeple]

lock in

[dusk vessel]

i prefer stalker overall but new vegas is good

can never go wrong with it

[broken mantle]

its more of a game with a story i think, stalker is more free form, pure gameplay

few games have the depth of writing and worldbuilding fnv has

[dusk vessel]

yeah

[dusk vessel]

if you like this aspect try kotor 2

because thats where the dev team learned to make it

[broken mantle]

i bounce against star wars settings but ill keep it in mind, i crave an rpg lately

[dusk vessel]

there is some 10 hour videos on just one character

[dusk vessel]

i mean, you can just... use swords and ignore the jedi stuff

[cloud saffron]

do the proto exos not need a power source?