╓☢stalker-chat

[wise dagger]

Istg as much as a fun time hardbass can be sometimes its just the same tones over and over song after song

that's why I listen to Uamee

[torpid hull]

and honestly

the majority of hardbass listeners are western teenagers

[wise dagger]

yeaah

thats why most the new ones are in english

[proven raptor]

there should be a word like weebs but for people obsessed with eastern europe

[torpid hull]

slavaboos

too bad they cant find good music (blyatnik and chanson)

[wise dagger]

slavaboos
wearaboos
weeaboos
ect.

its just cultreboo

[torpid hull]

none of these kids ever hear of Mikhail Krug :(

[stark wyvern]

weeaboobs

[torpid hull]

i love Michael Circle

[wise dagger]

I think I spelled the German one wrong though

[torpid hull]

fucking michael with no angles

[torpid hull]

wehraboo

[wise dagger]

yuh

[wise dagger]

people who think the tiger had a perfect transmission

[turbid heart]

Can we get a enhanced edition sub chat ?

[torpid hull]

oh shit this isstalker chat

[torpid hull]

why

people play those?

[turbid heart]

Bcs I want one

[torpid hull]

have fun lol

[proven raptor]

i'm sure the mods will be glad to hear your proposition

[torpid hull]

im sticking with the old jank editions

[proven raptor]

oh chatter

you have no idea

[torpid hull]

enlighten me

[turbid heart]

I agree enhanced really isn’t as bad as some make it to be

[stark wyvern]

🔦

[proven raptor]

the "enhanced" edition games in some places have even more jank than the originals

one step forward two steps back kind of deal

[stark wyvern]

extra janky edition

[fair remnant]

Anyone able to tell me where the inverno install guide is?

Aint used gamma in ages so ive forgotten

[proven raptor]

!winter

[dawn marten]

@fair remnant Remove the NEWCOMER role to access the links - https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029827096488452137
Choose only one:

• Project Inverno for GAMMA: #1118326896296480799 message (recommended for DX11 players);
  Support thread: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1316762917110288414

• Yet Another Winter Mod (YAWM) for GAMMA: #╟🔰☢newbies-chat message (recommended for DX9/DX8 players).

[fair remnant]

Thanks mate

[wise dagger]

I have them installed bc I was curious and honestly I don't see the diff between base classic stalker and the enhanced

the look and feel the same

[mental furnace]

sleevs

[jolly thicket]

is there a list somewhere of which artefacts spawn more likely in which anomaly ? i accidentally gave my good artefact that gave me carry weight ( i am a loot goblin) to a quest so i need to find it again

[brazen dove]

is there a setting to remove all ui from the game completely?

I know there is a way to toggle it but it keeps coming back when loading back in

[stark wyvern]

settings > visual > UI/HUD > turn off HUD

then press H to hide the body health thingy

[twin timber]

Which NPC do i have to talk to to change factions to loners?

It seems it's not that fat bald bastard

[stark wyvern]

you cant change to loners

[twin timber]

Huh

Weird, why?

You can change to every other faction that's not an enemy

[molten bone]

I dont know

[stark wyvern]

because yes

[sick yoke]

it's just not possible

[rose musk]

npc's are so all over the place on TTK man

just watched a stalker with I think a silenced 9x18 pistol 1v3 mercs

????

guy shot 9 times and got 3 kills

[brazen dove]

will running gamma on ssd be a lot faster and have better performance than on an hdd?

[proven raptor]

it affects load times more than performance

at least on my™ machine™

[oblique reef]

NPCs don't follow the same ballistics formula the player does iirc

[sick yoke]

Yeah they don’t

They use base anomaly rules for that

[rose musk]

just hilarious watching 1 guy tank like 8 ak shots in basic bandit leather jacket then a merc in heavy gear dies in 3 pistol shots

why even buy better armor bros

[dull warren]

yes,

the worse your potat the more u get, if your pc good, only like loading times, for my mid pc, it made me load faster and smoothed out my shit

[twin timber]

How do i throw glowsticks now

The usual key isn't working anymore

[oblique reef]

Check glowstick binds in mcm

[twin timber]

Long press V... but still doesn't work

Changed to no modified and won't work either

I am at a :.|:; here

[proven raptor]

get out of my head

[tardy dove]

Hey uh

Guys

Whats the default keybind for switching to the underbarrel grenade launcher

I just realized that its not set on and V is already taken for switching sights

Whats your keybind?

[blissful ivy]

just make it V and make sights B

or vice versa

[tardy dove]

B for me is holstering the weapon

[blissful ivy]

just make it... not that

make holstering ANYTHING ELSE

since its a pointless keybind

[tardy dove]

I guess that is a viewpoint

[blissful ivy]

i made holstering the period key

so

idk

i just dont use it

[twin timber]

Man

ReTune makes this game's ambientation so MUCH better

Y'all should try turning it on on MO2

[dull warren]

make me

[tardy dove]

God damn it

got my first Exo and I didnt even finish BS

And its Renegade Exo

[dull warren]

trade in time

[tardy dove]

Did they buff the Renegades in Truck Cemetery or something

I just killed 15+ of them

[tardy dove]

I am a Loners

is Loner Exo better than renegade one?

[dull warren]

idk probably, check the stats

[twin timber]

Renegade crap is usually better at defending from bullets

Better than loners that is

Loner stuff tend to be more balanced towards anomaly and bullet protection

Wait, do renegades have an exo?

Or is it bandit

[tardy dove]

Renegades

I have a Renegade Exo on me that I got after killing which seems to have been a main base or something

Usually they were always only like 4-5 of them, but this was quite alot

There were 2 exos of them, even

[eager rose]

I feel like getting drug and tool kits should allow better/more plentiful/higher condition items for the factions you give them too

Concentrated in those relevant areas divided by how many faction mechanics and medics there actually are

Having the merchants ask for ammo and artifact kits seems appropriate too

[twin timber]

At least giving a medic a drug kit should lower their prices for meds

[dull warren]

it is immersive u get basically nothing

cause thats like real life

[twin timber]

Man, i HATE sleep in this fucking game

Every single time i want to sleep the game tells me fuck you, woke up early after less than half you wanted

And this shit is supposed to happen because you're in a noisy stalker hub

BUT I'M IN MY HIDEOUT

IN THE BED I CRAFTED MYSELF

[snow jackal]

the zones calling out to you

[boreal isle]

whats the setting to turn on a scope? nvg

[radiant star]

=

[boreal isle]

what mod is it in MCM

[radiant star]

3dss or 3d shader scopes, dont think what you're looking for is in there though

if you wanna turn on the nvg of a scope you do =

if you dont want it to be pixalated you go there (that goes for thermals though, not nvgs)

[boreal isle]

i changed on my other MCM settings, just forgot how

[boreal isle]

doing an invictus with default everything

lol

[radiant star]

mcm > 3dss would be it

[boreal isle]

i only see 3d scopes unless im blind

[radiant star]

well then click on 3d scopes

[boreal isle]

dont have an option to change any bindings, i just need the keybind to toggle the scope on and off

picked up a PSO and it's black

[radiant star]

its pitch black and shows nothing?

if so, thats a bug

[boreal isle]

the reticle is black

turning it on turns the chevron red

[radiant star]

and when you look at the scope on its own it says nv on it?

[boreal isle]

no, it's not a NVG scope, some of the non-NVG scopes turn on and off

the PSO has a red reticle when you toggle it on but that's not my question

I just forgot where the keybinding is to toggle NVG/scopes on

[digital crater]

I was so excited to be able to fully repair this SVD before I got expert tools, but now that I'm using it, it needs that +25% fire rate upgrade BAD lmao. without upgrades, I think the SV98 might just be better

[twin timber]

Oh cool, a gun jam ended my invictus run

a less than 1% chance jam

[boreal isle]

it's the "reflex sight mark switch" keybind

ill show you sec

[radiant star]

that one would be =

[boreal isle]

i DM'ed you, idk if u knew non-nvg scopes could turn off/on

[radiant star]

yeah i do know, its usually =

[foggy oxide]

I think I'm done with Gamma today. I planted an IED for a chimera but the pathfinding broke and it went around it on a longer route.

Then a second one jumped and double tapped me

[twin timber]

IEDs only really work for pseudogiants

Those bastards

[boreal isle]

invictus?

[twin timber]

HOLY SHIT

I can FINALLY put a laser on my Five seven

THANKS GROK

[ripe lagoon]

grok

[last mesa]

grok

[radiant sage]

[snow jackal]

who up grokking they gamma rn

[fierce lodge]

Thanks Grok the AI

[twin timber]

Grok

Anyway, whoever answered my prayers and made the damn five seven have it's LAM kit actually work, i love you

[torpid shard]

at grok

[pliant palm]

YEEEEEE

[blissful ivy]

gorlk, what does this mean?

[drifting gate]

I JUST LOVE IT WHEN THE SIN MEMBER STANDS DIRECTLY NEXT TO TWO PSEUDOGIANTS AND ALL THREE OF THEM DECIDE I AM THE GREATEST THREAT TO THEM ALL

[sick yoke]

are you playing on 0.9.4

cause if yes then you literally are (sin and mutants are friendly)

[drifting gate]

Oh

[snow jackal]

sin can have mutants but i cant have ryan gosling watching my back

pls fix for .94

[drifting gate]

Are exo suits worth it?

[torpid hull]

depends

if you want to sacrifice walkspeed for slightly higher BR and Balres than some other heavy suits

90% walkspeed is not worth it at all imo, just find a hybrid or other heavy suit

[celest sparrow]

They are dogshit but they work just fine if you don't have any Artifacts to make a proper build

[drifting gate]

Why did I randomly hear monolith while talking to a clear sky guy in rostok???

[summer condor]

does the sin exo still have 6 slots

[crimson sand]

Can anyone tell me where the guy that sets up my milspec pda is at? I got a message to search for some guy in the bar to get my pda set up but i cant see him anywhere
Does it even work that way? I unlocked pda codes for a few factions but it tells me i cant see them on my pda (i have 3.0) since i need a more advanced one. Can't craft it and i dont know how to do it

[uncut estuary]

i think 3.1 is debug only but it works.

[crimson sand]

Ah ok, weird, i went on the milspec moddb page and couldn't find anything about crafting it, it just says its expensive to craft -.-

Thanks man

[uncut estuary]

the description in mcm says the same. i wanted to try it so i did via debug in my last run. fun feature imo.

yw

[formal current]

so who tried to raid the server

[olive abyss]

Hi, Do cars work with DX9?

What is the key to start a car?

[uncut estuary]

detector key 6

[olive abyss]

Wow, that is far out. Thx.

[oblique quest]

Must be somebody who has a suit based on a Monolith suit. Seems like their idle dialogue is actually based on their model, not their faction; so sometimes you have Bandits saying loner idle dialogue, or a Clear Sky saying Dutier idle dialogue, etcetera.

Or maybe DICK just has some mistakes in the code, causing a similar effect to what I described but not being totally consistent about it.

I was thinking about the damage numbers on ammo types in Gamma and the damage numbers on ammo types in Tarkov and realized that part of the GBOOBS soup was messed up and that's why it feels weird: FMJ does the same damage as AP.

It should be that AP does the same damage it does now, but FMJ does a bit more (but not as much as HP, obviously), 'cause that's the missing puzzle piece.

The extra tactical decision to specifically use FMJ against light-armored stalkers (that you still wouldn't use HP on), making FMJ less miserable (heh) to use against mutants (which is especially important for ammo types which don't have HP), and just generally making FMJ feel slightly less like junk you only use when you have to because you don't have anything better.

[storm saddle]

Fmj dealing the same dmg as AP is.. fine. Fmj is just your catch all option. It deals damage to everything cheaper than HP and AP, ofc it's gonna feel a little worse for it's versatility

If you give fmj a global damage buff then I think it'd make specific smgs be more oppressive than they already are

[valid crater]

FMJ is cheap and reliable, just sometimes needs more bullets to kill some targets. But it gets everything killed in the end, no matter if mutant or armored enemies.

[storm saddle]

(I wonder which ones I'm talking about? Any guesses?)

[foggy oxide]

I love the Glock 19 I found. 40 bullets and 1200 rpm make me go cheeki breeki

And it fits in the melee slot

[storm saddle]

Also, what situation are you in where fmj feels bad to use against light armor stalkers? Even the poopy rifles one tap down most stalkers if it pens and even if it DOESN'T it's one head and one chest

[foggy oxide]

I love the p90 but the ammo for it is expensive to craft and to buy.

[storm saddle]

Like the ADAR penning the soft skull—

[storm saddle]

Excuse me

Did you just say 5.7 ammo was expensive?

[foggy oxide]

The ap ammo. It costs 45 in pistol powder

[storm saddle]

It's got the best ammo economy in the game tho. Literally all pistol calibers break down into it

Ohhh

Ap

[oblique quest]

Considering how much dirt cheap HP you can get from Butcher, no pistol ammo is truly expensive once you get the ammo kit.

[storm saddle]

Tbh you don't need AP on the 5.7 smgs. They fire so fast and with such a high mag size the fmj will carry you to the end game

[storm saddle]

Like 22 ap on the fmj Is.. really good when you consider that's only 3 shots to pen a apoc helm and you have over 700 ROF with laser beam recoil

[oblique quest]

Even .357, 'cause you can get relatively cheap HP rifle ammo from the Butcher and break that down to get green powder.

[storm saddle]

If you even graze enemies skulls you will delete them from the game

And cuz the 5.7 is so cheap(fmj) you can just hold down m1

Without care for costs

[oblique quest]

I'm talking maybe 15%-20%. Not that huge, but enough to be noticeable, especially on mutants.

[storm saddle]

But I mean if you don't like it then

Opinions nd shit

[oblique quest]

The jump from FMJ to HP is currently like 100% or something nuts, so it's still not a replacement for that against mutants and truly unarmored stalkers.

[storm saddle]

Yeah, but my question is why and what would it change? Rifle calibers with fmj already one tap down if they pen with a headshot

Buffing smgs is just like a 'why' so I don't think that's necessary

(Does 5.7 fmj really need more damage?)

[oblique quest]

Yeah, but an entirely mag of 7.62x54r 7N1 struggles to kill a boar with flank shots and guys with Adidas jackets can shrug off a shot to center mass instead of getting knocked on their ass like they probably should.

[foggy oxide]

Not really.

[analog palm]

i think that's just boobs being funky

vanilla gamma damage feels very off

[storm saddle]

Those Adidas jackets are gonna shrug off center mass shots regardless of a 20% buff. Plus I bet you're talking about the mosin. The snipers (especially the early game ones) don't need to be one tap chest-ing stalkers

[foggy oxide]

I think a lot more smgs should fit into the melee slot tho

Like the pp-2000

[analog palm]

i think none of them should

[storm saddle]

There's some inconsistency in his design philosophy

[analog palm]

pistol slot is for pistol

[storm saddle]

Some HP smgs fit others don't

[oblique quest]

This is more of an issue which exists because not every ammo type has the clean HP/FMJ/AP system.

[analog palm]

knife for knife, bino for bino

[oblique quest]

Don't have an HP for that ammo type? Fuck you, eat rocks, mutants and rookies will eat a billion rounds.

[foggy oxide]

I dunno what you want. You can still use your knife with quick melee, even if you don't have it equipped

[storm saddle]

The snipers/most high caliber rifles aren't meant to be one tapping chests or used against mutants. They're designed to be bad

Against mutants I mean

Against stalkers it's to force headshots

And even if you're NOT hitting head it's still a 2 shot

So I don't see the issue rlly

@oblique quest plus there's a 10% damage penalty for hitting chest. Stalkers only take 0.9× to the chest

So the mosins like.. 50 damage still wouldnt be one tapping chests if it dealt 60 instead

[foggy oxide]

Don't snipers also have a bonus to Armor Penetration?

[storm saddle]

Bolt actions get +5 AP yes

[oblique quest]

That makes sense for stalkers with armor, but it also applying to stalkers which definitely don't is a funny edge case.

[storm saddle]

Regardless, yeah, center mass rifle shots won't be dropping people like it would irl. If you want that insurgency sandstorm experience. I told another guy that if he wants a 'realistic' experience he needs to crank the damage of penetrating shots and drop the damage of stopped rounds to literally nothing

[oblique quest]

I can't help but wonder if I have more aim sway than everyone else. 'Cause aiming rifles in Gamma feels like trying to aim a pistol in Hunt: Showdown.

[storm saddle]

Arm dmg makes sway way worse

[foggy oxide]

I'm still questioning why the lever action doesn't get that ap bonus.

[oblique quest]

Arms are 100% (and it definitely does get worse with arm damage). Might just be a BHS:RO issue.

[foggy oxide]

But I guess others still see it as an overpowered starting weapon

[oblique quest]

It's pretty fucking good, TBH.

[storm saddle]

If you changed your mcm settings like arm power, it makes sway worse

[oblique quest]

Especially since that fucker's only ammo type (.357 "HP") is clearly actually JHP, having both appreciable pen (instead of effectively if not literally none like most HP) and huge damage.

[oblique quest]

I did not, but might need to in order to make it slightly less bad. Feels hard to land shot on dudes more than, like, 15 meters away unless I'm "prone." Which makes getting headshots with irons very tricky.

I would crank it up and show video, but as far as I know we're still

[storm saddle]

Wait what?? Arm sway really isn't that bad

[oblique quest]

Like I said, it might be a BHS:RO issue. Since it talks about aim sway being worse unless you do something, but I swear I did it and it's still bad, but maybe it's just like that. I wouldn't know better.

[storm saddle]

RO might have different default settings

[oblique quest]

I really like BHS:RO 'cause it's more Fallout New Vegas-like with limb health, instead of what-the-fuck-ever BHS is normally supposed to be.

I love being expected to eat a medkit and then yadulin (and be quick about it or it doesn't even work) literally every time I take damage

[rigid stream]

no shit that the grok's bhs was taking shit off tarkov.

[oblique quest]

It would be slightly less aggravating if Gamma had the version of FDDA which makes Yadulin bottles have multiple servings (and splits water bottles into 5 servings instead of 3).

[rigid stream]

either way, at base gamma weapon sway is already there reguadless of condition

thats Anomaly design at core.

nothing to do with FDDA

[rigid stream]

hell, Misery mod even

[storm saddle]

It's not really that quick either... you get like 40seconds to a minute to yadulin

Plus bandages and stuff have different times nd whatever

[oblique quest]

I know it's not like an active reload window, but the point is you HAVE to this and then you HAVE to do this and you HAVE to do it in this order and you HAVE to do it in time and basically every time you take damage or, again, you can basically just go fuck yourself.

Makes the inverse difficulty curve even more impressively fucked up.

[analog palm]

tedium curve

like liked bhs

[oblique quest]

If BHS were literally just the health system from Tarkov (which exists as another mod, by the way), that's very different from BHS.

[analog palm]

i mean body health systems generally

not just gamma

[oblique quest]

BHS is like the worst of Tarkov's health system and the worst of Fallout: New Vegas hardcore mode's limb health system combined.

You die if your torso or head health are depleted and the only way you can heal limb health is to use a stimpack and then a doctor bag and if you don't have one of the two then too bad, so sad, go die I guess.

[mental furnace]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1401274045223407616

[storm saddle]

It's really don't think it's that bad if you get used to it. Taking damage, especially lots of it, is meant to cripple you

[analog palm]

and becomes completely irrelevant once you get abundance of military stims

[mental furnace]

[oblique quest]

Yup, it only serves to make the first play session or two even more hellish and then basically doesn't matter.

[storm saddle]

That i agree with. BHS becomes significantly less impactful the more meds you have

Especially temp heals

I've had my whole body orange before

[storm saddle]

I like it for what it Is. I like it more than RO since RO has no temp heals which means you're often forced into during surgery mid fight unless u wanna die to a 0 HP chest

[oblique quest]

I'm not even sure that it still has that. Although I'm not running around in an exoskeleton with a suite of gee whiz artefacts and tier 4 additional plates, so I probably wouldn't be able to tell.

[storm saddle]

Better you are the more you'll die to 0 HP chests especially with RO

Since you won't be dying to your HP hitting 0

Or you take more dmg with high balls%

[oblique quest]

Balls%

[storm saddle]

Yeah ballistic res

Ballistic res means less boolet damage but you can still take torso dmg

And torso health Is like max 20 HP or sum?

So take 20 chest shots and it's gg

[oblique quest]

Yeah, but shortening it to "balls%" is just silly.

[rigid stream]

torso and head hp are basically double of what arm and leg hp got

[storm saddle]

A little silly are good

[storm saddle]

12 then

[rigid stream]

the certain case where i lose all my torso-head hp before dropped general hp to 0 is in the case of late-game with 85%+ balls res

[storm saddle]

In gammas BHS your temp HP will keep you from flat lining but RO, like I mentioned earlier, requires surgery every now and then

[oblique quest]

Anyway, it sounds more like what Grok actually wants for Gamma is a souped-up version of the Tarkov body health system mod which probably has a bunch of the meds tweaked.

[storm saddle]

Yeah hence what I mentioned earlier. RO mandates surgery often in longer fights

So u don't die to torso hp

[rigid stream]

yeah, it really is tedium that you have to surgery every blacked limb.

[oblique quest]

(Unless you turn off the surgery and splinting system because it's the same kinda shit, then you can just eat a medkit or stimpak and hide like a bitch for a few moments like usual.)

[rigid stream]

iirc, wasn't losing head hp is the only case you can die in bhsro

[storm saddle]

Grok wants what he has right now I'm pretty sure. You temp heal through fights and full heal after

[storm saddle]

Really? Not chest HP?

[oblique quest]

I have have barely survived a barrel explosion with all my limbs crippled and single digit health, so I guess it depends.

[rigid stream]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message atleast from what i remembered playing with it

[storm saddle]

Huh.. I see

[storm saddle]

Healthgate prob

[rigid stream]

one-shot protection still kicked in yes

[oblique quest]

Anyway, I like BHSRO because it feels more like what I'm looking for. It also rather ironically makes it harder to quickly recover all your limb health.

[storm saddle]

RO requires more micro

Which isn't my thing

So it's opinion ig

Do what u like

I just don't like having to do surgery to avoid flat lining due to head HP

[oblique quest]

More tedious, less rigid.

[rigid stream]

the same reason why i also dislike mags.

[oblique quest]

Either way, still keeps you from being able to just go crazy nuts with healing all your normal health with Scar and go forever off that.

[rigid stream]

sounds fun on paper, but holyshit its tedium the longer you used it

[storm saddle]

HP regen builds don't work anyway since one burst will kill you without balls%

[oblique quest]

As somebody who played/plays Tarkov, mags isn't that bad.

[storm saddle]

Mags is.. also opinionated I guess. I like the idea of being punished for bad reloads, but the reload speeds in gamma are so fast it doesn't really make a difference

[oblique quest]

I like the ability to get mags which are upgrades instead of all mags becoming upgraded contingent on getting a certain version of that weapon, for instance. I also like getting more ammo from deads and stashes, but having to work for it a bit.

[rigid stream]

also as a former tarkov player, yes.
it doesn't look bad on tarkov itself.
it just tedium in stalker and it doesn't even fit its design to begin with.

theres a reason why mags is an optional mod and not base gamma lmao

can't belive about seeing more newbies complain about its system

[oblique quest]

Because apparently the average Stalker player will get assmad about not having infinite Stanags in hammerspace instead of having to make a tactical decision as to how many to buy and what to load them with.

[storm saddle]

Not even valid cuz you can just drag them from your inventory to your carrier within seconds anyway

So that's on them

[rigid stream]

also i dislike drummags because of how much of a crutch they are.

[oblique quest]

That's just true, period.

[storm saddle]

I think most mags players only use it for the broken ass mag upgrades

[rigid stream]

im okay with extended mag but not drum

[storm saddle]

Turning a gun with 20 to 30 rounds to 75+ is a fucking balancing nightmare

Some guns are balanced with their mag size in mind

[rigid stream]

mfw ruger with 100 5.56 drummag

thank god theres no 9x39 drummags

[oblique quest]

The only game which kinda does those right is, ironically, Tarkov (at least in the case of SPT with Realism).

'Cause if you want to use that drum with that huge capacity, whoops, you're slow as fuck and have tons of inertia and also your gun's ergo is fucked so it controls like a cinderblock and also reloads super slowly and also repacks super slowly.

[storm saddle]

I saw a guy running around with a 7.62×51 scar with a 70+ round mag

All I could do was laugh

[oblique quest]

Oh, and it fucks your reliability and makes it malfunction way more.

[rigid stream]

thats the exact core case of regular tarkov.

[oblique quest]

But none of that really applies here, so yeah it's just lame as fuck. Like drum mags usually are.

[warm verge]

yea they do

[rigid stream]

spt are just normal tarkov, but you can mod the shit whatever you like
except being singleplayer obviously

[storm saddle]

Mags just need more limitations. Less slots and weight limits for carriers

[rigid stream]

which there is, not much armor that give you large mags slot.

[storm saddle]

Mags is supposed to punish/limit your long fighting capability but you can just say 'fuck you 3 90 round mags'

[rigid stream]

i still hate some of drum mag are marked as "medium slot"

[oblique quest]

I don't think normal Tarkov has nearly as much of a palpable effect on your gun's ergo nor does it affect reload speed.

[storm saddle]

I meant weight limits. Like carriers that can only hold 5kg or 10kg of ammo

Suddenly those drum mags got a trade off

Big ammo but

How many can you actually load or fit

[rigid stream]

how to make drum mag balanced.
nerf its moving speed while have it loaded

[oblique quest]

Honestly, what if, hear me out, higher weight reduced movement speed. Like, period. So what if your weight limit is 200KGs? If you're carrying 160KGs just because you're far from your limit doesn't mean you should sprint like the breeze.

[storm saddle]

Exoskele?

[oblique quest]

But then that has its own slowdown built in.

[rigid stream]

well, the weight system in stalker already interfere with stamina regen, so, it could possiblely work with it

[storm saddle]

Tbf it alr does. 90~95%

[rigid stream]

which leads to it like carrying 20kg of stuff effectively give you infinite stamina while higher, close to weight limit give you regen penalty.

[storm saddle]

Ppl just spam epipens anyway

[ancient dragon]

You ever get in a firefight and midway into it you can't reload anymore?

[oblique quest]

Anyway, in the end we can agree that nothing can serve everyone's tastes, which is why it's cool you can fuck up the modpack with even more mods and fucking with the configs.

[storm saddle]

Nah cuz no fights last that long early game and late game you get enough mags to drown someone's stash in tarkov

[analog palm]

in my experience, getting loaded doesnt reduce my max speed, just makes me get tired way faster, also takes like 40 metres to come to a stop

[rigid stream]

also its core mags design, it punish you for wasting ammo, missing shots.

[ancient dragon]

I was referring to mid-game with small ass mag loadouts

[analog palm]

shotgun

[ancient dragon]

Its not missed shots, its suppressive fire

[rigid stream]

thats the way stalker works.
you get stamina regen penalty the more you're loaded

[ancient dragon]

But saigas....

[oblique quest]

Small loadouts? I'll have you know my 7 PMM mags is quite huge, thank you.

[storm saddle]

Never ran into this issue. Ks23 + 5.45/5.56 rifle

[analog palm]

saigas are pretty bad

basic ones at least

[ancient dragon]

fair, I did prefer using ks-23's back then

[rigid stream]

ks-12 still supreme to be gods of shotgun
saiga merc is okay i guess
nerd are just the same but 2 less shell

[storm saddle]

Which is completely fucked by epi spam lol

[analog palm]

i played with mags a few times and i just slugged everything. only started using mags when i could carry 10 drum mags at once

like, it doesnt make the game harder or more strategic

just more tedious

[rigid stream]

it just tedium

thats it.

[ancient dragon]

Realism.

[analog palm]

no

realism is a shit argument

gameplay comes first

[ancient dragon]

Tf you mean nuh uh

[analog palm]

and i'd argue it actually makes the game easier in a sense, putting 100 rounder on my gun and staying scoped in and tapping heads, clearing the entire map without reloading

[valid crater]

Someone once made a weight/volume mod for the original SoC, was bugged like hell but you had item weight and item volume, and backpacks and such had a max volume. That made things very complicated depending on item volume.

[oblique quest]

And to me "wait, what mag do I have loaded again" "wait, did I repack my mags" and "shit, what load spread do I have again" is valid gameplay.

[median beacon]

My realistic ass when I'm putting 30 bullets into an empty mag to kill the bloodsucker after me:

[ancient dragon]

to be fair, its kinda funky to fit an lmg with 7kg (its light maybe) but your backpack is the size of a fanny pack

[storm saddle]

Mags made me carry a backpack to drop to repack my mags in less than a second in

Lol

[analog palm]

yeah

[storm saddle]

I love unintended game design

[analog palm]

you just learn to game it

cause it's a game

[oblique quest]

Imagine not turning off instant load in stash.

[valid crater]

That's what knifes are for.

[storm saddle]

I play how things are typically intended to be used

[median beacon]

No I am not doing the freedomers quest please stop asking me to knife a bloodscuker please

[oblique quest]

I'm the opposite, I fuck with everything to be more to my tastes.

Even if that means stacking the deck against me.

[storm saddle]

Once I start tweaking to 'my taste' there is no longer any discussion to be had with others

Because we all have a massively different experience

[valid crater]

There is no "as it's intended to be played", there's only Grok's idea and your own taste to adjust everything.

[storm saddle]

This is partially why I despise how tweakable gamma is since half the time that newbie complaining about artefacts/armors probably set his drop condition to 100% or some shit and is rocking a nosorog and is confused why he doesn't have 90% balls res

[storm saddle]

(Real example)

[oblique quest]

I mean, it's not like we have beef stew and you have clam chowder, it's more like you put salt and pepper in your beef stew and I put onion powder and garlic powder in mine.

[storm saddle]

It opens up a very big can of worms

Is my point

The difference between an unmodified gamma and a modified one can be as small as 'I made the morphine 20 minutes again', or, 'I just killed gavrilenko for a 100% nosorog suit before BS'

[oblique quest]

Well, in the end it is Groks Automated Modular Modpack for Anomaly, not Grok's Automated Fixed Modpack for Anomaly.

If they want to fuck with it, they're free to fuck it up too.

I think it would be kinda nice if items which despawned because you rolled bad on your scav checks spawned some relevant junk instead.

To imply that it was unsalvageable but you still have the option to get something out of it (and its existence is still implied), instead of it just evaporating into thin air because lol lemao.

[warm verge]

IS THERE ANTI SAVESCUMMING NOW

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

that is SO hilarious

🙏

[oblique quest]

Is there? How would that even work?

[warm verge]

i got hit with an error about savescumming

lmfao

[oblique quest]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-skeleton-funny-tiktok-sus-gif-5161896079061185003

[warm verge]

gg

[frigid gyro]

dont call it savescumming
its tactical reload

[hexed moat]

i'm wondering, was radiation strength toned down in any recent GAMMA version? Because I barely ever get radiated to a point where I need to use radiation meds/vodka/cigarettes so far. I'm still in the south, admittedly, if that makes any difference. That is with the Sunrise Stalker Suit

[last mesa]

It did

Basically deal no damage

[oblique quest]

Unsure. I still ran into a packet which fucking killed in my army warehouse, so....

[last mesa]

I mean they nerfed radiation few patches ago

[frigid gyro]

i think one thing that has changed also iss that you take dmg at way higher doses

[oblique quest]

They did make it so that low-level radiation just hurts stamina instead of health, though.

[last mesa]

Ye

[oblique quest]

If it maxes out I swear it kills you even faster than before, though.

[hexed moat]

i barely seem to get radiated at all though

[oblique quest]

Me when I have a gasmask

[last mesa]

What armor you even use

[hexed moat]

i fixed up a fancy gasmask recently, but I really never ever need to use it xD

i remember this not being like that when i last played

[last mesa]

Just spit the armor.

[hexed moat]

gotta check, gimme a sec

[storm saddle]

I mean yeah I agree it's called that for a reason but it makes discussion about it difficult when people stray from the base settings, yfeel?

[warm verge]

OK THIS ANTI SAVESCUMMING SCRIPT SUCKS DICK....... SMH..

[storm saddle]

This is why my advice is usually kept vague

[oblique quest]

OK, not needing to wear anything is wild unless you aren't going north of Rostok.

[storm saddle]

Are you save scumming or just trying to load a save

[oblique quest]

True, but this chat right here isn't even Gamma-specific, bros could show up talking about shit like Anthology here.

[warm verge]

IM LOOTING BODIES REGULARLY

NO SAVESCUMMING INVOLVED

[storm saddle]

You'll have people say 'I'm playing gamma' and then tell you they've got expert tools before BS

So like

Idk man

What do u want me to tell u

[storm saddle]

Wonder what's goin on there

I haven't procced any anti save scumming measures but I don't load saves often

[oblique quest]

What if, hear me out, you could dismantle extra gunsmithing kits to get a few scrap metals and power cans?

[odd sky]

Somehow ended up in the Monolith control center and theres so many of these rats 💀

[storm saddle]

I mean yeah that's fine
Id have to bust ur balls if it was an expert tools craft tho

[hexed moat]

Tigerstripe Stalker Suit with 8% Rad Resistance

[storm saddle]

The greatest troll I ever made was asking for a recipe to craft expert tools used 10 advanced tools, but then making the craft take expert tools. The true middle finger to all the 'let us craft expert tools!!!' Crowd

A shame I never got to see it actually become a thing

[oblique quest]

If it took 3 (or just 5) but it needed expert tools, that'd still be neat for quest completes.

[odd sky]

What exactly causes zoom able scopes to randomly start being grayed out ehen you ads?

[uncut quarry]

There's a mod that adds craftable expert tools with a total of 8 advanced ones

Or complete snitch quest for free expert

[median beacon]

That's actually goated idea

[leaden jackal]

yo i play as a monolith and after i found the wish granter i didnt recived any main quests (end?)

[foggy oxide]

How much vadulin do I have to eat to go blind?

[median beacon]

Ibuprofen gang

[uncut quarry]

1

[oblique quest]

I miss painkiller shots giving bleed reduction.

I wish stimpaks and glucose shots just used the metamizole animation. I don't like that weird injector, TBH.

[odd sky]

Ibuprofen on top fuck everything else

[median beacon]

fentanyl on top, then ibuprofen

Yadulin is just shit tier

[pale holly]

gee i wonder why it costs like half to quarter of the other two

also yadulin restores 4 h/t and 2 limbs and fentanyl is 3 on all. so its not completely useless (or was it the other way around)

[dusk vessel]

damn 48 swigs of nemiroff for 540 rounds of 7.62x54R PP is a damn good deal

ah and 21k

[rapid glen]

Yadulin is peak when you’re broke af and need post heals.

Renegade playthru on hardest difficulty means eating some yadulin from time to time.

[pale holly]

48 swigs is like what... 20 liters of vodker roughly

[dusk vessel]

25 yeah

i didnt buy any its just what i had in my stash

converted putinka and flask vodka into nemiroffs for the trades

[dusk vessel]

7 chimeras in outskirts

mabye i can finally craft a compass

8

[mild gust]

After having been gone for a year I tried reinstalling Gamma, I'm having some trouble that I dont get the right amount of mods to load in MO. I tried reinstalling twice ;_;

[dusk vessel]

nope only 1 chimera heart of course

[oblique quest]

Gameplay protip: It's probably your antivirus.

[valid crater]

May still be cheaper to ask a medic. 🤔

[pale holly]

slightly cheaper to use a medic, yeah. especially if bandage +yadulin doesn't fully heal limbs

[tropic grove]

Do renegades have a medic except for dark valley?

[oblique quest]

"Hmm, I wonder how many stashes are in the swamp, haven't been there yet"
11 STASHES INCLUDING 4 GOLDS

[dusk vessel]

medic is almost always cheaper, but you are often times far away from one

especially if your torso hp is reduced to 0 and its only alive through yellow postheals

[torpid shard]

I try to play mono, the game bricks itself because a monolithian is spawning in with some shit after ten hours of gametime
I try to play clearsky, the game spawns me without all of my starting items

[scenic geode]

what button is used to switch from scope to ironsights and back? it used to be "v" but now it doesnt work

[latent elbow]

Rip expert tools

[latent elbow]

You need a compatible scope to do that ? Or is it the same key for side scope ?

[mild wing]

4th crash of the day in the north

i'm tired boss

i don't think the game has ever been so unstable for me

[latent elbow]

Playing with mods ?

[mild wing]

almost nothing outside of vanilla

just a run timer

but i'm not asking for tech support, just venting

[latent elbow]

Fine by me the only support I can provide is sending funny stickers

[sage schooner]

you should try not crashing the game

thats sure to help the stability

[scenic geode]

yea, same for side scope

im trying to use it on pistol like i used to do before but doesnt work

[latent elbow]

Is the last time you used it was before the update? Maybe it has been messing around ?
Maybe remove scope/ put scope on save and change map and restart the game help like for some other scope-related issues ?

[neon jacinth]

what is this arcane rain dance type procedure

[neon jacinth]

when was the last time i used this gun-scope combo

[hollow wadi]

Hey bud
Not an acceptable display name
Better change it

[scenic geode]

its people who speak english over here, they dont understand what that means

i dont speak with russians on this server

but ok

[hollow wadi]

I don't think you understand how server-wide rules and chat filters are

[tepid salmon]

what the fuck is that reasoning

hahahah

[leaden jackal]

can i complete the Mission Afterglow as a loner?

[random grail]

Ye

[leaden jackal]

how do i start it?

[random grail]

!storyline complete mortal sin first and wait for message from faction leader (sidorovich)

[dawn marten]

@leaden jackal #│📚manual message
📚 Storyline Progression Guide™

[leaden jackal]

and how do i start mortal sin?

[random grail]

Complete living legend
First

[leaden jackal]

and? i need to talk to?

[random grail]

Sid

[leaden jackal]

okk thx

[snow jackal]

120k still running around with an axe and no gun lmao

[foggy oxide]

does the ghillie suit actually work?

[lusty gate]

No

[tawdry flare]

bruh

got blasted across the map by a bandit, lmao

[proven raptor]

nuh uhhh

it does actually give you a tiny tiny stealth bonus but only if you're standing still

however stealth in stalker is not a thing to begin with

so yeah it's useless

[lusty gate]

:(

[drowsy grail]

ah, i wish i could cosplay as solid snake and lay down in high grass, letting bandits pass me before going for epic cqb takedowns and dying

[neon jacinth]

beans: devoured

no img perms

time to stalk in the zone

[scenic geode]

guys, i have no letters on weapons (im talking about A C B or D tiers) and dont have icons on consumables, meds and everything

how is option that hides all dat called?

[neon jacinth]

missing mods? check if you have #📍577-mods-in-mo2

otherwise #🔨base-gamma-support

[high merlin]

goddamn... game looks beautiful

[tardy dove]

Guys

an honest question

Does talking to Gatekeeper and wiping out that Monolith attack ACTUALLY lessen Monolith NPCs in the BS?

Or should I just totally ignore it and go straight to BS, and save my ammo and medS?

I mean the Zone rules are something and what the NPC says is something different

yes he says it "clears up" but does it actually do so?

[sick yoke]

No

[tardy dove]

Well, time to skip him then

Doing BS in Invictus, pray

[celest sparrow]

Why skip him

[tardy dove]

I want to get north as fast as I can

So I don't want to waste ammo

I already got an exo suit so I need an exo repair kit - so, I can wait on the main story for some time

[celest sparrow]

[rose musk]

16 yellow stashes in finally

gunsmithing tools

[formal surge]

Got around to the scorcher last night, been a update or so since I played def spicier than the last go

[blissful ivy]

At that point just do last dawn

[rose musk]

it was pretty chill i'm playing eco

only like 4 in-game days

[supple pebble]

I have graduated from the newbies channel

How are my expert stalkers

[stark wyvern]

glad to see you managed to escape from that hellhole

[supple pebble]

In all fairness it was mostly chill

[blissful ivy]

mostly dickheads, like me and a few others

good thing is that you wont hear borka saying shit like "2k isnt 2k, its more like 1.5k"

like a nerd

since hes muted for a few more days

[supple pebble]

Oh god

[blissful ivy]

hes one of the only people who actually cares

[celest sparrow]

Let my homeboy Borka Fat free

[blissful ivy]

i dont really care, 5 days was a little much

but its funny

so who cares lmao

[celest sparrow]

it is funny

[supple pebble]

Muted boys need to be put in a zoo for entertainment

[small ermine]

wat he do

[celest sparrow]

Ping Grok

[small ermine]

ooh no the

[blissful ivy]

yeah basically

but i think they gave him 4 too many days of a mute

ngl

5 whole days for one goofy @ is kinda big

[haughty stone]

Why?

Oh, I read it

[blissful ivy]

[normal island]

He was on 5 warnings

[sick yoke]

Only 5?

[mortal finch]

How many warnings = ban?

[normal island]

I guess it depends on the warnings

5 off topic reminders are not the same as 5 times "please stop posting slurs" warnings

[mortal finch]

Yeah I understand

It makes sense

[twin timber]

Is there a way

To make lasers like

Stronger?

I can barely see them now

[river rover]

Wait

He got muted?

[celest sparrow]

Yeah, from pinging Grok

[river rover]

He did get muted

[twin timber]

Oh shit a random legend rank nosorog wearing free stalker spawned in rostok

I'm gonna follow him around

[craggy flower]

Awesome. I can finally chat here!

!lvlup

[dawn marten]

@craggy flower
Legend - lvl 60 (445,550 XP)
Master - lvl 46 (213,325 XP)
Veteran - lvl 35 (101,675 XP)
Professional - lvl 26 (46,475 XP)
Experienced - lvl 20 (23,850 XP)
Trainee - lvl 12 (7,030 XP)
Rookie - lvl 6 (1,625 XP)
Novice - lvl 0 (0 XP)

You get XP by chatting in the text channels (5-13 XP per message, it is random);
Type /rank view in #🤖bot-commands to see your level;
Type /rank xp_level in #🤖bot-commands to see how much XP you'll need to reach the level you're interested in.

[mortal finch]

[dusk vessel]

sometimes gun autism chat

but probably the most chill chat in the server

thats public anyway

[dusk vessel]

same vibe when my teammate buys an awp in csgo and i dont buy a gun and just follow him around to pick it up when he dies lmao

[twin timber]

He died to a bunch of bloodsuckers on AW

The guy had a KS-23 and somehow still died to them

Didn't drop anything useful sadly

[dusk vessel]

im not such a big fan of shotguns

ill always prefer an smg or 5.45/5.56 rifle with hp

[twin timber]

With the buffs to other ammo HP that's actually way better

[dusk vessel]

especially 5.45

[twin timber]

Now i'm not obligated to use hydra shock anymore

[dusk vessel]

on the storm, it might be the best mutant killer in the game

if were speaking about rifles

dunno if ppsh or vector still hold the crown

ppsh just because its easy to find and cheap asf ammo

[blissful ivy]

no thats offtopic

its a lotta people

but theres less fights

for sure

[blissful ivy]

i mean, vector only holds the crown for all but giants

the giants is the KS-12

and it can do well on anything else as a bonus

[dusk vessel]

yeah

between these 2 your aim and movement is gonna be more important

than a difference in firepower

[snow jackal]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/pearto-replacer-for-photo-of-a-loved-one

[oblique quest]

So I am close to the next rank. Felt like I had that one for a while.

[clever acorn]

hmm does the ahroprom underground controller not work for brain game for any reason?

[twin timber]

nONE OF THEM

There's a fucking KSG that can hold 4 gauge shells now

It's like

13 whole shells for you to have fun with

[summer condor]

i wish that thing existed in real life

[radiant sage]

[latent elbow]

Is there any benefit for using the shortened silenced KS-23 rather than the regular one ? (Beside the look of the gun and pretending I'm the Ukrainian Anton Chigurh )

[inland spade]

Not really

Besides lower weight

[latent elbow]

Both are pretty the same uh ?

[inland spade]

Yeah. You have the normal ks which can shortened using a barrel and theres a stockless ks 23 that can be made into ks drozd using a kit

[dusk vessel]

i was talking outside of shotguns

[latent elbow]

Because silencer doesn't really work, shooting once with and everyone gets mad in the radio

[twin timber]

Oh

Get the drum mag RPK-16

Lotta HP 5.45

Good luck finding it though lol

Shit's rarer than the fucking Kriss vector

[pale holly]

squirrel annihilator 9000

[inland spade]

Well my go to anti mutant weapon for now is still p220 xxx with hydrashocks

Unless i bring a shotgun as my main arm

[pale holly]

good thing i yoinked one off an isg guy

[dusk vessel]

silencers in this game work like a barrel extention for some reason

so you get better damage velocity accuracy even less recoil

its kinda dumb how op they are

[twin timber]

Yeah they for some reason only make your gun decrease condition slightly quicker

Which sucks ass, I like the gun sounds

[dusk vessel]

also a bit higher jam chance

[twin timber]

Wish supressors actually did their work on making enemies not find me as easy instead of flat out raising your damage AP and accuracy

[latent elbow]

Doesn't seem to work with the Drozd, condition never seems to decrease

[twin timber]

That thing can be called a supressor?

[latent elbow]

But when shooting with my RD5.56 nobody reported my shooting but when I did so with the Drozd everyone reported the shooting

Don't really an issue though

[dusk vessel]

if youre firing supersonic ammo the supressor wont do all that much

theyre still gonna hear the sonic boom

its only with 9x39 and such that its truly stealthy

[twin timber]

What do you mean reported

Like, the PDA messages?

[dusk vessel]

"i just heard small arms fire in truck cemetery"

[twin timber]

That doesn't really matter

[dusk vessel]

yeah it doesent

[twin timber]

The fuckers can hear you kill things with a knife

[latent elbow]

Yes

[dusk vessel]

and they think a kar98 is a shotgun

[latent elbow]

Yeah that's true

Like killing a mutant in a cave and some say "Just saw a stalker kill a boar with a knife" wtf bro where are you hiding

[twin timber]

Anyway, silenced guns just don't work like they're supposed to

Not even with silent kills enabled

[pale holly]

all suppressors now do is an increased jam chance. they don't make the gun dirtier faster

[twin timber]

Speaking of jamming

[oblique quest]

Bro hiding in the background like

[dusk vessel]

while its true that there are some supressors who can improve ballistics marginally

[twin timber]

It's happening a LOT more often now

[dusk vessel]

its not a 7% increase

[twin timber]

Even with gun all green

Died like, twice because the fucking shotgun jammed right when i was shooting some dude

[pale holly]

grok added a mod for innate jam chance, even on fully repaired guns. its in MO2, you can disable it

[dusk vessel]

!silencer

[dawn marten]

@dusk vessel

• -33% gunfire sound detection distance
• +7% damage
• +7% ammo penetration power
• +10% impulse
• +3% muzzle velocity
• -10% spread
• -18% recoil (doesn't affect camera movement, only camera climb)
• +33% innate jam chance (e.g. 6% jam chance becomes 8% jam chance)

• No more accuracy debuff when moving and shooting with a silencer

[latent elbow]

Never get a single jam on my Drozd

After a few hours and a dozen ammo shoot

[dusk vessel]

for the most part, supressors make guns more stable and have less recoil

[pale holly]

i understand why grok added it, but not a single time did i go "oh wow how fun! my gun jammed, this is so interesting"

[dusk vessel]

theyre not barrel extensions as they work ingame

[latent elbow]

I play Farcry 2 at the same time I'm jam-proof 😂

[pale holly]

i dont know enough about suppressors to comment. overpressure and all that jazz

some guns apparently stay cleaner because of overpressure, better make weapon parts drop condition less often too

[latent elbow]

Yeah it's all about redirecting the gases

[normal island]

100 gun nuts vs 1 understanding gameplay elements based on game design and balance and not realism

[last mesa]

i hate GAMEBALANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802786473887662090/1368164889503203399/1746263237358988.gif

gif fail

im going to kaput

[normal island]

!embedfail

[dawn marten]

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[latent elbow]

Agreed, better seek gameplay and game balance rather than realism

[dusk vessel]

its bad balance

[normal island]

You're gonna make all of these guys have a heart attack

[blissful ivy]

it is indeed a bad system, putting all the gun shit aside

ah yes, gun jam because we want jam mechanic used

[latent elbow]

Besides in "real life" silencers don't really silence gun sounds

[dusk vessel]

completely ignoring any realism, i think its bad balance to make supressors this strong

[blissful ivy]

thats why its a -33% detection range

not 100%

or 80%

[dusk vessel]

clearly they disagree, wonder if there is a way to change it myself

[latent elbow]

Yeah I've figured out that 😂

[blissful ivy]

i just dislike the buffs it gives gameplay wise

of course it was done to balance the fact that stealth just doesnt work

[dusk vessel]

the recoil alone is already very strong to have

[blissful ivy]

but id rather suppressors just have the range buff and thats it

[dusk vessel]

can keep the accuracy for balance

[blissful ivy]

nothing else

no other ups and downs

[dusk vessel]

but damage and ap? thats too much for a minor drawback

[blissful ivy]

just less detection range

[dusk vessel]

nah recoil is fine

[blissful ivy]

i mean sure, but i dont think its needed

since guns are already basically lasers

[dusk vessel]

not all

[blissful ivy]

theres functionally piss all recoil

on like every gun

[latent elbow]

Recoil is fine because of gases management but power and ap ?

[blissful ivy]

except like 3-4

[dusk vessel]

im ignoring realism here

purely talking gameplay

[blissful ivy]

i just dont like the idea that suppressors just instantly make a gun better

i think just detection range is fine

recoil management shouldnt be affected by it imo

[latent elbow]

Yeah but for gameplay too isn't that a bit too op because side effects are very limited?

[last mesa]

FUCK BALANCE

WE GO FOR REALISM AND BALANCE VIA COST

[blissful ivy]

yes, thats why no side effects should be in place

[last mesa]

FUCK ALL BULLET

9MM IS SO ASS BUT YOU CAN BUY 600 OF THEM

338 IS SO GREAT BUT YOU ONLY CAN BUY 10

[blissful ivy]

i think suppressors should strictly reduce detection range

shut up sweizz

[last mesa]

i keep forgetting

[sick yoke]

10? in this economy?

[blissful ivy]

you sound like a retard

[dusk vessel]

he is

[last mesa]

ragebaiting

[dusk vessel]

no shit

[blissful ivy]

yeah but he doesnt need to make it painfully obvious

[last mesa]

successful

[dusk vessel]

youre pretty bad at it

its just annoying

[dusk vessel]

go to newbies chat or offtopic or brainfart

[last mesa]

idrc

brother

[blissful ivy]

me when people dont like me: "ragebait"

[last mesa]

?

[blissful ivy]

it was ragebait ALL ALONG

[last mesa]

now im confused

[blissful ivy]

[last mesa]

btw suppressor ain't cheap for most gun anyways ?

you still have to pay to have one or even find a gun that can use it

[latent elbow]

Seeking realism in a game where you shoot mutants and grab artifacts sound kinda dumb though

[last mesa]

we should be able to use artefacts! SPAWN ANOMOLIES!

[blissful ivy]

me when i find one on every other fuckwit i kill

[normal island]

Watch them swap "realism" for "immersion"

[last mesa]

imagine the artefact in our inventory accidentally go kaput and we have fruit punch over us

[blissful ivy]

artifact inate jam chance

[dusk vessel]

you skipped reading time in kindergarten?

its not about realism or immersion

just balance and gameplay

[latent elbow]

Yeah immersion and balance sound like music to my ears

[last mesa]

flame or fireball initate heat debuff and make your gun lose duration to 60%

Battery and flash able to absord electro anomolies but it have overchange issue

when it go over 100% it will go combustion mode and spawn 10 electro anomalies around player

idk about what artefact spawn within chemical zone ( fruit punch, etc )

Jellyfish/Meatchunk ?

[latent elbow]

Controller brain makes you reload your holstered gun

[last mesa]

controller if they are smart enough

no that should be Poltergeist/Burer jobs

[latent elbow]

Yeah for burer but poltergeist don't drop anything

[last mesa]

just add lootboxes

[latent elbow]

OMG

and skins !

Like BO6

[last mesa]

we already have skins.

[normal island]

And lootboxes

[dusk vessel]

the gamma lottery, whoever wins gets a copy without a bitcoin miner

limited time only

[latent elbow]

Joke aside I played Clear Sky Complete a long time ago and it gets unique special weapons with camo skin like a FN-FAL with Rhodesian camo patern imported in the Zone by mercs.

I like the idea of unique weapons with particular look

There is such thing in Gamma (don't know actually 😅)

[normal island]

White supremacy FAL

yay

Just what I want in my game

[latent elbow]

What's important here is the historical context

[normal island]

Yeah, of the apartheid ethnostate that was rhodesia and what that camo represents

And people oddly obssesed with that camo

[latent elbow]

Are they ?

[dusk vessel]

its a rabbit hole

dont worry about it

[latent elbow]

Oh

[normal island]

I've been asked 3 times to make that as a gun mod maker

[last mesa]

people do be obssesed ( larping nonstop )

[normal island]

And all 3 times I had to turn down weird ass racists obsessed with their little white supremacist wet dream gun

[last mesa]

it's fal

they got it wrong

[dusk vessel]

the fal is a fantastic gun, but certain amercians are very obsessed with the rhodesian one for political reasons

you can read up on it if you want, messy story

[last mesa]

i hope the people i know ain't like that

[latent elbow]

What a shame, the camo is great and the fact is such an "exotic" gun (speaking of geographically) can be found in the Zone was what made me think it was cool

[last mesa]

i mean people do collect and want it for their collection

[latent elbow]

But if it obsesses some supremacists dumb...

[normal island]

Not far from wanting a spencer carbine with a confederate flag wrapped around it

[dusk vessel]

different time and place but same ideals you could say

[normal island]

Or a kar98 with a swastika carved in the stock

[latent elbow]

Camo pattern and flags aren't really the same

[last mesa]

tbf it's depend on their intention

[radiant sage]

"several people are typing"

[latent elbow]

Even if some people recognise the pattern as a flag for what they believe in

[normal island]

When it's a very specific camo pattern design by an specific country for a specific use, not far from it tbh

[dusk vessel]

there is other pattern camos for the fal that look cool

i prefer the g3 anyway

[normal island]

But this is delving into another topics that are not for this place

[dusk vessel]

right

[normal island]

Based

FAL overrated

[latent elbow]

Don't FAL for it RIGHT GUYS

[normal island]

HK mogs FN so hard

[radiant sage]

[dusk vessel]

mp7>p90 aswell

[radiant sage]

The p90 genuinely is lame af

Like yes it's quite unique but apart from that

Shits ugly yo

[normal island]

Gun made for a specific purpose that went obsolete like 5 years after

[latent elbow]

But what about a G2 FAMAS with a functional FELIN system ???

[latent elbow]

Functional ingame

Oc

[dusk vessel]

Famas?

i think its in debug but i hope it never gets added

[normal island]

There's a mod that adds that

[dusk vessel]

🚮

[last mesa]

consider they were gun for a contest

P90 VS MP7

[normal island]

The felin gimmick doesn't work tho

[last mesa]

which is more compact and able to penetrate armor!

[dusk vessel]

i dont like bullpups and i never will

[last mesa]

MP7!!!!!!

[dusk vessel]

famas is the worst offendor

aug is the only one ill respect

[radiant sage]

When AR10

[last mesa]

how about Tar21

[last mesa]

SR25

[latent elbow]

That's all the joke bro

[normal island]

There is an SR25

[last mesa]

you mean the original AR10 ?

the Wood ahhh looking ?

[rigid stream]

[last mesa]

you prob need some one to animate it...

it's

unique

[dusk vessel]

M24 would be kinda cool

[last mesa]

and prob ugly

[normal island]

YES BROTHER SPIT YO SHIT

[dusk vessel]

but we got a bunch of bolt actions already

[last mesa]

we do have M24 ?

you mean the POLYMER VARIANT for the grunt in the middle EAST!

[latent elbow]

Tar21 ?

[last mesa]

i love IWI and their design

[normal island]

X95

[dusk vessel]

modernized 700 i guess

[normal island]

Same shit different smell

Still a tavor

[dusk vessel]

but .338 lapua

already got awsm and barret so probably not

[latent elbow]

Looks pretty close ^^

[normal island]

Add a .338 semi auto

Ez

[last mesa]

i was going to say we do have .338 rem

but no it's the other one

[latent elbow]

What's Rifle Dynamic? A company which got the AK license and made its own modern AK pattern ?

[dusk vessel]

i hope they dont mess up the G3s recoil

it does hurt the shoulder more than an fal but it has less muzzle rise

[normal island]

All depends on the animation

[dusk vessel]

yeah

[normal island]

Which are not made by Grok

So not like he can control that

[dusk vessel]

i know

but it seems the guys who are making it know the gun well enough

i have faith

[normal island]

He didn't make animations either lmao

[last mesa]

it just that

[twin timber]

Where's the fucking XM8

I NEED it

[last mesa]

it's still in the file but like

no one tried to remake it ???

[twin timber]

Damn it

[last mesa]

what if i pay juan to do it.

[twin timber]

Just like the LR300

[twin timber]

don't

[last mesa]

i don't have image PERM

[latent elbow]

Good ol' SoC F2000 with grenade launcher

[normal island]

There's like 3 XM8 mods

But it's a debug gun even in vanilla Anomaly

[last mesa]

find it on moddb!!!

[normal island]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/xm8-reanimation-and-model Took 10 seconds

[latent elbow]

Is there a leveled list system like Fallout/Skyrim mod ? Like if I downloaded and installed it it will be immediately available everywhere or just through the console, or even in a particular faction for example

[celest sparrow]

?

[last mesa]

RPF system ?

i mean RPG system

[latent elbow]

I'm not familiar with Stalker modding, when you add a new gun ingame how do you control how you will find it ingame ?

[celest sparrow]

You just wait until new NPCs spawn with it, which usually takes around 2 weeks

there's also NPC Loadouts which determine the ranks / weight of the weapon

[latent elbow]

You can like make the gun available only for a specific faction or rank ?

[earnest flicker]

What do you think about SR1M Giurza pistol?

[celest sparrow]

yeah you can do that

[wise dagger]

damn I just got a new merc kit, I can carry so many mags with this thing lol

like 11 without any backpack slots

[latent elbow]

Ok thank !

[twin timber]

Nice

Hmm i wonder if it'll work with grok's theseus ship

Last time i tried to add a gun from moddb it literally never showed up and i had to spawn it with debug

[wise dagger]

I just cleared the north duty checkpoint for a single assassination mission and I'm wondering if I should just clean the whole place out.. I still have plenty of ammo

[radiant sage]

Fuck it we ball

[twin timber]

You want that loot, don't you?

It could have spawned a hyper rare weapon... kill them all!

No witnesses

Multiple that homicide

[wise dagger]

Im playing merc so I am super loot motivated rn

bro wtf magnum just ran at me

[twin timber]

Mangun?