╓☢stalker-chat

[blissful ivy]

or 3dss

[onyx raptor]

Yeah

[blissful ivy]

so i can get you one that works one min

[onyx raptor]

Alrighty ty

[blissful ivy]

working on it rn

done

should be ok for you now

hope one day you can use DX10/11

[onyx raptor]

I will once I build my new pc lmao

Ty

[river parcel]

anyone know what's up with the KS-23 having jams at max condition with 0.9.3?

[blissful ivy]

its a bug, 2 guns do that

no big deal

ks-23 jams arent a big deal

theyre very short animations iirc

[river parcel]

yeah it's just weird

which other gun, by the way?

I've noticed it'll happen rarely when using an upgrade kit on a gun, but saving and reloading the application of the kit fixes it

this is the first time I've seen it just happen with a stock gun and I wasn't sure if it was intentional or not

[blissful ivy]

im not sure the other one i forgot

anyways, just emptied rostok, now onto the next faction base

because im masscring EVERYONE so i can beat Geo's record

BRO BACK TO BACK??

psy storm

THEN EMISSION?

[muted spruce]

Initial D

[blissful ivy]

bro PLEASE

[blissful ivy]

alright guys, what faction do i kill next? anything but eco, CS and freedom are on the table

well i guess im killing mercs, since theyre causing issues for me

[valid kernel]

So, are the barrier invasions actually a thing? I've always seen lukash's messages but this is the first time I've gotten one while actually at the warehouses and there's just....nothing here.

[celest sparrow]

Yeah

You need to talk to Lukash to trigger it

[valid kernel]

Ahhhh

[blissful ivy]

have you guys ever had a companion lose their "status" or whatever and all the factions start shooting at them?

like a duty companion all of a sudden being shot by mercs

but since im CS he should be left alone?

is there a fix?

anon i know you are smarter than the average bear, do you know?

[celest sparrow]

Only ever heard of this happening with Hip around Factions that were Hostile against Loners

[blissful ivy]

well this duty companion of mine is being shot by mercs

so i guess im shooting my duty companion idk man

[oblique reef]

Only notice that when under disguises

[blissful ivy]

well ok, im just gonna have to let him die to mercs

hes not a big deal, i mean if the quest giver didnt fucking die he wouldnt be here

[sick yoke]

mdr

[blissful ivy]

he would be gone doing whatever it is that happens to npcs from search and rescues

[river parcel]

bro... I just carried an MDR back to my stash that dropped off a UNISG

what the fuck lmao

[blissful ivy]

EYO WHAT THEY DO TO MAH BOI'S LEG???

brother mercs are so mean

this dude been with me through it all, and this is how he goes out? damn that sucks

rip sergeant gordienko

you were the goat, but damn is it annoying having you get shot at every 2 seconds

[sinful osprey]

cnpp here we come

[river parcel]

the way the ragdolls freak out sometimes is just hilarious

[blissful ivy]

mines funnier XD

or the one dude that died in AW

in my save

that is stuck in the floor

and hes freaking the fuck out

and has been there for about 30 in game days

[muted spruce]

In my old save there was just a controller that would not despawn

[river parcel]

the ragdoll physics is a gift

[muted spruce]

He was there from day 3 to the end

[onyx raptor]

Are there any mods to make humans smarter rather than just walking straight toward me? Seems like they only use cover like 20% of the time

Feels esp bad with the bandits

[river parcel]

they often times need cover to be nearby and have line of sight with you to choose it

[onyx raptor]

Yeah they aggro from far away and then just walk toward me while I peek them from cover

[river parcel]

enemies are very dumb out in the open, but in the more dense maps they take cover quite well

[muted spruce]

looks at brain scorcher

[river parcel]

brain scorcher is weird, since there's not a lot of positions in there where they can take a crouching cover

when you get out into a map like outskirts, they'll make great use of crouching behind boxes and ruined cars

plenty of windows for them to make use of

[onyx raptor]

The most interesting firefight I had was when I set up across the building in dear city with a ton of mercs in it

[blissful ivy]

this dude seems to be hellbent on the same thing

[onyx raptor]

And started shooting at them

[blissful ivy]

also how should i go about kill farming?

[onyx raptor]

They actually utilized cover

[blissful ivy]

i got 8k kills to get

[onyx raptor]

I’m beginning to wonder if bandits are just designed to be stupider

[blissful ivy]

they are iirc

theyre also nerfed for some reason

they take MORE damage in gamma

[onyx raptor]

Like those mf’s will walk slowly toward me while some across an open field clear as day

[blissful ivy]

a duty member takes like 10% less damage and AP than bandits

[onyx raptor]

With no care for their safety

[blissful ivy]

why? no clue

[muted spruce]

Cauae they poor

[blissful ivy]

so are loners

[muted spruce]

Ye

[blissful ivy]

i dont see why theyre further nerfed

[muted spruce]

But Bandits are like, super poor

[onyx raptor]

As a loner I am not poor

[blissful ivy]

YOU arent poor

[onyx raptor]

But they are

[blissful ivy]

but look at your comrades

[onyx raptor]

For some reason

[blissful ivy]

theyre broke too

[river parcel]

idk bro I see some exo loners walking around those guys are a wildcard

[onyx raptor]

I guess it’s just my main character status

[muted spruce]

Loners are hobos too, but those hobos have acquired a box to live in

[blissful ivy]

exo bandits too

those are a thing

[muted spruce]

Bandits kill each other over food and Vodka

[river parcel]

yeah but you barely ever see them outside like, dead city or the jupiter base

[blissful ivy]

on an unrelated note, three days grace goes hard as fuck

back to stalker

[onyx raptor]

Real shit

[blissful ivy]

my buddy lost out on going to a concert

because grad is that day

poor guy

he absolutely loves TDG

[onyx raptor]

Anyways, I want an svd

[last mesa]

That just sucks

[onyx raptor]

Tell me how I get a kitted out Remington to drop before a basic svd

[last mesa]

Get a spy mission and kill the spy

[blissful ivy]

basic svd sucks

just to lyk

SVU or SVDS is the only way to go

(kill duty)

[onyx raptor]

Yeah but even a kitted out Remington before the most basic svd is crazy

[blissful ivy]

they have SVDS in spades

[blissful ivy]

not really

[river parcel]

could be loot tables. the SVD I got in my most recent run dropped off a zombie lol

[onyx raptor]

Do the duty fw the Mercs or no cuz I wanna be a merc for my next playthrough

[blissful ivy]

no

they hate each other

[onyx raptor]

Good

[river parcel]

mercs just get bandits, freedom, clear sky, eco as allies

[last mesa]

Not really. If you headshot with 7N14 or 7N13 (AP) you're pretty much one tapping majority of the zone

[blissful ivy]

but they serve no purpose (duty)

[blissful ivy]

no i just mean RoF wise

[onyx raptor]

Do the military have an interesting story pathing?

[blissful ivy]

and 60rpm is ass

[blissful ivy]

no

[river parcel]

the 60-75 RPM on the SVD and SVU is rough, but you can work around it with 7N14

[onyx raptor]

Cuz I’m looking for something different from loners but not monolith because I hate the monolith

[river parcel]

SVDS is such a nice upgrade though

[blissful ivy]

honestly, anomaly is kinda just mid at stories

[last mesa]

That's what I mean. You don't need ROF if you one tap

[blissful ivy]

not just rough, unacceptable

[onyx raptor]

It’s really interesting if you don’t know a lot about stalker

[last mesa]

110

[blissful ivy]

dont care, it is miserable when you are aiming center mass tho

which is easier

[blissful ivy]

did they fix it?

[oblique reef]

Go play the OGs

[blissful ivy]

the SVD used to have like 60

[blissful ivy]

mid

without mods the gameplay is so shit

[celest sparrow]

Play Stalcraft instead

[blissful ivy]

its not boring, but its annoying

[blissful ivy]

DONT

EVEN

[river parcel]

It would suck if you don't aim for headshots, but that's really not the worst limitation in the world

[blissful ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-stomp-space-marine-get-the-fuck-out-gif-3829573095698143846

[last mesa]

Yes, but it's supposed to be a sniper for a reason

[blissful ivy]

yeah snipers are taught center mass

[muted spruce]

Find man, deliver rock piece - kill religious folk - kill annoying army man

[blissful ivy]

not heads

[last mesa]

Nope. It always had 110

[blissful ivy]

theres a lot of SVDS tho

not sure how many drop

but at least 1 had 60

[last mesa]

Not in games

[blissful ivy]

doesnt matter, i will be using my ammo efficiently

hitting shots

heads in stalker have fucky hitboxes

and duxs character models dont help

[last mesa]

How is hitting heads less efficient?

[river parcel]

the wood furniture SVD that has the different upgrade path does start with 60RPM base

[blissful ivy]

you can miss easily

on moving targets

thats why

[river parcel]

have one in my stash I used for half my run before getting an SVDS to drop off a mono in jupiter

[last mesa]

Oh! So it was past the upgrades.

[blissful ivy]

i often shoot on moving targets, and this FUCKING MOUSE is broken

so i often over correct

[last mesa]

Bruh

Adjust your DPI and mouse smoothing settings

[blissful ivy]

i dont have another mouse and i cba to get another rn

[muted spruce]

The enemies also dart around like scout from tf2

[river parcel]

It's an excellent rifle, 7N14 one taps basically everything that isn't in an exoskeleton

[blissful ivy]

brother, the DPI and smoothing isnt the issue

the mouse is

its like this no matter where, i need a new mouse

i literally have the mouse equivalent of stick drift

[last mesa]

If you overcompensate it sounds like you used mouse smoothing. Did it myself a year or so back, but I turned it off and now I hit my shots like I did back in the day

[blissful ivy]

no smoothing is off, im not smooth in the brain department

and my DPI is fine, before the mouse started being shit, it was fine

[muted spruce]

Enchance pointer precision?

[blissful ivy]

anyways, getting a new mouse soon, might as well get one with side buttons

because this damned acer office mouse (from when i got the PC) is not cutting it

[last mesa]

Something like that

[blissful ivy]

that and the left click is literally... smooth? if thats a way to describe the click

its like soft

no real click anymore

[muted spruce]

Progressive click

Wild

[blissful ivy]

?

wut

[muted spruce]

Its a joke

[blissful ivy]

oh ok

[muted spruce]

Cause like, it dun click anymore

Iirc that is actually a thing tho

[blissful ivy]

yeah its actually almost silent

[muted spruce]

Like, it is not an on off value it is a pressure based thing

[blissful ivy]

so thats prolly bad

its like when your buttons on a controller get all soft

and they stick out of the controller less

[muted spruce]

Ye

[blissful ivy]

because the button contact is worn in

keyboard is still fine, but it takes a lot to kill a keyboard through normal use

[river parcel]

base stats with no upgrades for reference

[blissful ivy]

the dude pile

7 random guys

would be 8, but dooty guy had to go

[river parcel]

great rifle, notable improvement over a bolt action 7.62x54 since your scope doesn't fly around so much, though at short ranges you'll run into the fire rate limitation much more often

(and the SVDS has identical stats but with different upgrade slots and +1 reliability, +1 recoil control, and +340 RPM)

[last mesa]

I completely forgot renegades had an outpost at the Truck cemetery. Got smoked by a guy in an exo

Also what are exos doing in the south? Thought they were supposed to be only north of AW?

[river parcel]

they can travel after being generated for sure

[blissful ivy]

where should i go for the long range shot?

CNPP?

north or south?

[lethal steeple]

+1 is wild to even mention

what does recoil control even mean dear player

or reliability for that matter

[river parcel]

it's a short enough list of changes that I might as well be thorough

[blissful ivy]

its something i put on my gun to hope it does something

even when it dont

[last mesa]

That I leave for you to figure out

[blissful ivy]

mean

but yours was CNPP

so i assume thats a good choice

flat and long

so its best id guess

also wheres the patch mod

[river parcel]

longest shot has some potential on different maps for sure

north CNPP roofs

[blissful ivy]

well 359.9 is the longest possible

by engine limits

360 is derender

[river parcel]

radar checkpoint sniper nest to the mono spawns at the end of the road

[blissful ivy]

not that long i dont think

[river parcel]

truck cemetary towers if you can find a squad to spawn there

Zaton's big hills could have potential

probably the hardest part about getting the longest range shot is not the spot, but the accuracy modifier letting you hit the headshot lmao

guess there's always the gauss rifle

I don't remember, is there a direct sightline from the elevator lab roof in outskirts to the river port?

[blissful ivy]

do accuracy upgrades even do anything?

[lethal steeple]

yeah??

[river parcel]

I'm sure the accuracy upgrades have a small impact on weapon accuracy, but for the actual stat on your gun, yeah you shoot bullets in a cone

[lethal steeple]

fuck kinda question is that

[river parcel]

using upgrades on a weapon seems to have marginal improvements at best, but going from 70% to 80% or 90% on different rifles is a pretty noticeable difference

with some of the less accurate guns it's almost not worthwhile to even equip them with the more powerful optics, because zooming in won't make you any more likely to hit your target with them lol

[blissful ivy]

idk if all the others do nothing, does accuracy?

thats why i asked

[lethal steeple]

no upgrades do nothing except for suit durability

[blissful ivy]

but since it does, then imma upgrade

[lethal steeple]

idk where would you even get that from

oh wait yeah you were an invictus rat

[blissful ivy]

yeah lemme guess, misinformation?

lots

[lethal steeple]

people there say the code of the game doesn't relate to experience

[blissful ivy]

alright yeah

like always

momo is right

nothing new under the sun here

correction, momo is almost always right

[lethal steeple]

i mean like come on

lmfao

[blissful ivy]

99% of the time

[sinful osprey]

looted a monolith rog in the cnpp lets go

[lethal steeple]

now it's a sin being right because i do reseaech

[blissful ivy]

or like lysol, 99.9%

[lethal steeple]

sue me

[blissful ivy]

idk idc

[blissful ivy]

i get corrected, meaning learning

if i ever wanted to be more than an ltx editing chump, learning shit is a start

maybe one day the prized orange role could be mine

(doubt)

[river parcel]

I do wish the upgrades page would show you the end result instead of the modifier being applied, but updating text for every single weapon in the game is probably just too tedious to be anyone's priority

[onyx raptor]

Does anyone know if escape from tarkov rifle pack works with gamma?

[lethal steeple]

it's not even a modifier

it's a hand written value

that's made for vanilla anomaly guns

99% of weapon mods just recycle anomaly's upgrade trees

so they don't consider any stat changes

which is what leads to upgrade text not matching at all with what they're doing

[blissful ivy]

ugly ass gun

[onyx raptor]

Why is it tune tone with only a wooden stock

Wth

At least give the scope mount purpose in life man.. left it without a scope

[lethal steeple]

like really the only weapon mods i've ever seen to use custom made upgrade trees are what blackgrowl puts out

[blissful ivy]

im not keeping it

i hate that thing

[sinful osprey]

I really do think there needs to be like 2-3 more late game NATO guns
cause it's like... type 20, m4 protector, m249, what else? everything else is kinda mid game assault rifle

[blissful ivy]

i like the tactical PKP more

[onyx raptor]

If only you could switch stocks

[onyx raptor]

Real asf

I love my nato stuff

Ig they get the job done well tho

But there’s not a lot of variety in comparison

Ngl tho I just like more modern looking stuff, never been a fan of wood furniture or only polymer with like 2 empty rails

Unless it’s like a mosin or garand

[sinful osprey]

I usually prefer WP but if you're in a faction that only sells NATO ammo and most of your allies sell NATO ammo, it'd be nice

like there's the rd47 and 74, and I just found a draco rd47

[onyx raptor]

I really like the mk47

[river parcel]

I had a question half typed out but my power went out in this storm lmfao. What all is going on with that system? I've heard it's a nightmare but I'm completely unfamiliar with it

[onyx raptor]

It sounds awesome

[sinful osprey]

I just want more like that
LAM
scope compatibility
I could take or leave extended mag but it's nice

[onyx raptor]

I basically only use the kit that has a long scope and a canted rmr

I think it’s a leupold..?

I would like if there was a scope like a holo with a a toggleable magnifier though

Sight* ig

[sinful osprey]

I'll almost always pick an LPVO or the spectre

[onyx raptor]

I like the spectre too

But I love big scopes on ar’s even more

Idk why it just looks good to me unless the gun has a short barrel

But yeah that’s an issue I have aswell, not enough nato stuff, which is why I was wondering if eft rifle pack works with gamma or not

[lethal steeple]

it's always additive due to engine limitations but all upgrades' section (read: their in code "class") has a field called value, whatever gets written for that field is what the game will display as what the upgrade does to the stat it's affecting (which is also something that's hand picked and doesn't have anything to do with what numbers the upgrade is actually moving)

[onyx raptor]

I like the scar’s too

Wish they had a little bit less recoil tho but Ik it makes sense

Something feels good about shooting a scar full auto tho lol

[lethal steeple]

so you could have an upgrade defined as following (purely example since idr the actual field names):

[my_upgrade]
value = 10
text = "handling"
hit_power = -0.1
fire_dispersion_base = +0.05

which would show up in game as a +10% handling upgrade

but it reduces 10 base damage, and improves accuracy in 0.05°

not a 10% reduction in damage, nor a 0.05% improvement to accuracy

[sinful osprey]

I just wish there were more NATO assault rifles with a LAM
cause god those are so nice to have for CQC
so many WP rifles have them despite NATO popularizing the peq box
otherwise yeah any assault rifle is usable so long as it can take a decent optic

[lethal steeple]

no, it's not terrible, it does what it's meant to do and it does it really well, what's terrible is that people don't make custom upgrades to accomodate the stats of their guns

[onyx raptor]

I honestly want something with a canted vertical grip

[lethal steeple]

and most of them (looking at one particular dude tho) often say to the 4 winds that the upgrade system sucks ass and that it should be revamped

[sinful osprey]

I think they look a little goofy on assault rifles
after all they're meant for mgs

[lethal steeple]

just because they don't want to learn how to use it and how to develop for it

[onyx raptor]

Ofc I meant for lmgs

I don’t use lmgs a lot tbh

[blissful ivy]

G36K goes up there too

[onyx raptor]

But I like to switch it up every now and then

[blissful ivy]

its a great rifle

[onyx raptor]

I really like the ron weapon pack

[river parcel]

Interesting, so is the problem really solvable then, just tedious to redo all of them?

[lethal steeple]

yeah

problem got ignored and pushed to the side to the point it's a logistics nightmare going back and fixing it all

which is why you see reactions like raving about how the system is terrible and it needs to be redesigned from the ground up

[onyx raptor]

Never used the g36k and just had it sitting in my inventory cuz I had a protector, might try it out

[river parcel]

That's a shame, it's one of the weaker points of the game that would be nice to see polished up at some point

[lethal steeple]

although nowadays, with all the stat changing functions exposed to the script layer, you could just work your way around it with no problems

i mean

i've done it before

[celest sparrow]

It would mean something if most of the stats did something

[lethal steeple]

the recoil mod has recoil be affected by both recoil and handling upgrades

by the value that's shown on the card ingame

recoil upgrades reduce intensity by what it says it reduces
handling upgrades reduce randomnes by what it says it improves

no i'm not going to do it

[blissful ivy]

its great

was better in 0.9.2

before they fixed the acog thing

because in 0.9.2 the acog on the G36K came with a canted RMR sight

the base acog mind you, not the kit

[ripe lagoon]

@lethal steeple hey do you know if misfire_probability is used in vanilla jam probability calculation?

[lethal steeple]

no

it uses the start and end ones

and ramps up

[river parcel]

That's pretty cool, would I have to wait until I start my next run to try it out or can it just be dropped into an older save?

[ripe lagoon]

thanks

[lethal steeple]

https://github.com/themrdemonized/xray-monolith/blob/all-in-one-vs2022-wpo/src/xrGame/Weapon.cpp line 710

you can see there it's not even being read

[onyx raptor]

Wb the aug looking rifles?

[ripe lagoon]

I guess it's some obsolete param form SoC

[onyx raptor]

The like dozens of them or something I didn’t really count but there’s a lot of em

[lethal steeple]

you can just un/install it whenever you want

[river parcel]

I'll have to try it out tomorrow hopefully if my power is back by then

Do you have a link on hand I can skip back to? I can just look for it later if you don't

[lethal steeple]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/enhanced-recoil-gold-edition

currently in the process of getting a remaster

[river parcel]

Sick, thanks

[lethal steeple]

no eta for release

[river parcel]

I vaguely remember an "enhanced recoil", was it a toggleable checkbox thing somewhere in the older versions of gamma?

[lethal steeple]

yeah it's a vanilla anomaly thing

grok isolated the part of a script that handled it and enforced it on with gbo

so it's enforced in gamma

[river parcel]

I see

[blissful ivy]

they shoot

in seriousness, theyre not bad

mid game tho

[river parcel]

Well, here's hoping I actually get to try it out soon lol. Thanks for the information, momo

[blissful ivy]

tbh im not liking my 74 pmc anymore

kinda just doesnt feel good

mid feels

[onyx raptor]

So am I just extremely lucky to find a protector before endgame or summ

[onyx raptor]

Man I love the 74m but I like the 105 more

Even though it’s objectively worse

[blissful ivy]

i dont enjoy the 105

not because its bad

[onyx raptor]

The recoil kicks like a horse yeah

[blissful ivy]

but because feels

no feels are better than performance

you can give me the shittiest shitcan ever

[onyx raptor]

Yeah I like a lil balance

In the two

[blissful ivy]

and i will have fun if it feels nice

[onyx raptor]

The m4’s feel good and are good

[blissful ivy]

but you give me something busted op but it feels like ass, never using it

for instance, the lynx mod i have, its super OP, but it FEELS so good

[onyx raptor]

But they can get a little boring

It’s a reason I have shitload of carry weight is so I can switch it up whenever I feel like it lol

[onyx raptor]

I like Barrets and svds most

Semi auto snipers make me happi

Lynx is there too but not as much as a barret

[blissful ivy]

i think its better

since it sounds better

[onyx raptor]

I just like beefy snipers really that’s all

[blissful ivy]

have you heard the CLINK after firing when it loads another?

and the boom is just peak

beats barrett any day

[onyx raptor]

Is there a wa2000 in gamma?

[blissful ivy]

yes

but it doesnt spawn

if it did it would look and feel bad

[onyx raptor]

I think the barret looks better really

[blissful ivy]

since its anomaly i think

[onyx raptor]

Ah not a gamma weapon

[blissful ivy]

barrett is lame

its so bland

[onyx raptor]

Barret is so beeg tho

[blissful ivy]

theres nothing special

[lethal steeple]

i'm sure the wa2000 wasn't even obtainable in vanilla anomaly

maybe it was buy only

[onyx raptor]

I like big antimat rifles lol

[blissful ivy]

either youve never seen the lynx, or youre just a barrett dick rider ngl

[blissful ivy]

maybe idk

[onyx raptor]

I have seen both

Both are very cool imo

[blissful ivy]

pretty sure lynx is just BIGGER

[lethal steeple]

yeah it was trade only

[onyx raptor]

Barret lonk and not bull pup tho

[blissful ivy]

its literally 4 inches longer

barrett is 4 inches longer

not a big difference

and the lynx is taller and wider

and just beefier

[onyx raptor]

They are cool in diff ways

[blissful ivy]

lynx is short barreled here, it can be bigger

[onyx raptor]

True yeah

But overall I like the stock of the barret more

Scope of a lynx more

[blissful ivy]

ah yes, tube

you can change the scope...

barrett is just stale

[lethal steeple]

the funny thing is that butcher sold it

and nimble

[blissful ivy]

its too overused

[blissful ivy]

fr?

[lethal steeple]

like nimble i understand

[onyx raptor]

I think it’s weird seeing a vert on a sniper too

[blissful ivy]

i believe that

[lethal steeple]

but butcher makes no sense

[onyx raptor]

It feels off to me ig

[blissful ivy]

thats just bad taste

from the owner of it

[onyx raptor]

Hey you’re the one who said it’s based on feels not performance

And feels are relative

[lethal steeple]

gear trading opens up possibilites like special and extremely rare weaponry to exist in the game and being justified

i.e. you can't find other people using the gun because of its scarcity

[blissful ivy]

i know, but i just mean the dude who owns it is stupid XD

in real life, all guns have a feel

and any gun worth money feels good

[lethal steeple]

that said i still wouldn't care for gear trading really

i ignored that even in the original games

[onyx raptor]

I like guns that make good noise

I like cars that make good noise

I like guns that look cool

[blissful ivy]

yeah all guns make good noise irl (except cheap ones)

[onyx raptor]

I like cars that look cool

[blissful ivy]

cars though? those are far more varied

most guns have a fun big boom and they usually look cool if its not some southern bubba gun or some shitty knockoff

[onyx raptor]

Southern bubba lol

[blissful ivy]

and the lynx has a much more neat history and mechanism

because bullpup

so the mechanisms are more neato than barrett

[onyx raptor]

Maybe so

But I’m incredibly basic and Idr fuck with bull pups much

I’ll use them as a change of pace but they’re not my favorites by any means

[blissful ivy]

well both are recoil operated i guess

[onyx raptor]

I like a little of everything but I usually prefer stuff like tac 50’s and honey badgers and 1911’s of some sort

[blissful ivy]

so theyre similar to some extent

[blissful ivy]

ew honey badger

[onyx raptor]

Mk17 is nice too

[blissful ivy]

ew .300BLK

icky

[onyx raptor]

It is an acquired taste

[blissful ivy]

i despise .300BLK

[onyx raptor]

I will admit

[blissful ivy]

its the stupidest most shitty ass round

[onyx raptor]

I like how it looks and I like how it sounds and it’s light

[blissful ivy]

its just if 5.56 had a brain dead cousin with a lobotomy

[onyx raptor]

I got one in game lolll

[blissful ivy]

because it can be put in the same mag then the gun blows up

its also just not useful

[lethal steeple]

what the fuck are you talking about

[blissful ivy]

.300BLK

[onyx raptor]

My favorite tho is benelli m4 super 90

[blissful ivy]

a caliber i have issues with

[blissful ivy]

i got one

[blissful ivy]

yeah i got that

[onyx raptor]

I love benelli

They do so good

[blissful ivy]

yeah they do

so fucking fun i admit

[onyx raptor]

Wish there was one in gamma and not a plain m1014

[lethal steeple]

okay how is that on topic

[onyx raptor]

We were talking about guns in gamma and it sorta moved to this

[blissful ivy]

same thing

[onyx raptor]

Yeah but they look diff

:c

[blissful ivy]

they dont?

theyre the same gun

[lethal steeple]

"it's not an ak47 it's an akm they're different!!!!" ahh comment

[onyx raptor]

They do a little

[blissful ivy]

no they dont

i own one, the only difference

is the tube being blocked on the m1014

which can be undone easily

[onyx raptor]

The model in gamma does not look like a super 90 lmao

[blissful ivy]

this thing?

i live in canada

so it shows those results

anyways

thats the super 90

[onyx raptor]

Ja

[onyx raptor]

The model in gamma looks a bit different

[blissful ivy]

thats the M4

see how theyre the same fucking thing?

its because THEYRE THE SAME FUCKING THING

[onyx raptor]

Yeah I’m talking about the one in gamma specifically LMAOOO

[blissful ivy]

yeah i have one, and its the same as the ingame model

soo... its the same thing

the tube is a little different in game

because no blocker for the tube

and the thing is the ingame one is off in one way, 10 rounds rather than 8

[onyx raptor]

Maybe it’s the sight and color that is diff to me

[blissful ivy]

it is

[onyx raptor]

I’m used to to the m4s90 being fully black :P

[blissful ivy]

its more gray

[onyx raptor]

Yeah it reminds me of the m1014 in left 4 dead

[blissful ivy]

hold on imma get the image of mine rq

[last mesa]

Hey. Uhhh. Can anyone remind me of how to fix/circumvent the bug with the tracking device quest again? Spawning the tracking device in the menu did not work

[onyx raptor]

I would like a laser on the m1014 hut it doesn’t seem like it has any kits

[blissful ivy]

yeah idk where my image went, gotta go look in my dms, i sent it to someone

[river parcel]

You see, the only way to win is not to play. You gotta stop accepting those tasks

Same with the artefact target assassination missions, if you're not very close in proximity to finish them quickly, the NPC can just die to other causes and have their loot despawned which task fails you

[last mesa]

Oh

Crap.

So now I have a perma marker on my PDA?

[blissful ivy]

fucking hell i cant find my benelli

in images

[onyx raptor]

Yo how tf do I deal with pseudogiants

[blissful ivy]

shoot it

lots

[onyx raptor]

Man lost a shotgun

[onyx raptor]

With what

[blissful ivy]

what you got

[onyx raptor]

I got a saiga, an m1014, an m4 protector, a ak74, a mp5, a Glock 19, a m9, a desert eagle, and a kimber 1911

[blissful ivy]

i meant shoot it with what you have

anything

[onyx raptor]

So everything

[blissful ivy]

aim for the big eye

on its face

thats all i got

[onyx raptor]

What if I just shot it with an rpg?

[normal island]

Explosives are super effective against mutants

Given that it's raw high damage and mutants don't have any armor

[onyx raptor]

So m203 then

Would be less expensive than an rpg I suppose.

[lethal steeple]

explosive damage doesn't go through armor math even in vanilla

it's just modified by a thing's explosion resistance

only fire_wound (bullet damage) goes through armor math

[onyx raptor]

So you’re telling me a direct shot with an rpg won’t damage armor but just the body?

[lethal steeple]

which is why mutants are so durable after k_ap was downscaled by 90%

for what

you vs npc

you vs mutant

npc vs you

[onyx raptor]

Me vs armored human

[lethal steeple]

you vs npc, no it won't because explosive damage doesn't go through gbo

npc vs you, yes because armor damage is 7% of post mitigation damage

[onyx raptor]

That makes no physical sense

I love it

[lethal steeple]

this better fucking not go into a realismo argument

[spare mist]

Although EFP/Arti's doesn't need to do that. Their multi-hit fix works very well.

[onyx raptor]

I am not a realism nerd

So don’t worry about that

[spare mist]

The k_ap change was because Grok chose that to reduce multis

on top of Momo's multi-hit fix

[lethal steeple]

ye i told him to do that as a last ditch effort before the bullet callbacks were added

my multihit fix was when bullet callbacks were added

now it could be better

since script hits now carry the bullet id as one of their params

you can just cache the bullet id and not let it hit the same target id more than once

[spare mist]

I use Arti's in ArtiGrok and it works like a charm - using the new callbacks and bullet ID

[lethal steeple]

which is what i do nowadays

i'm sure arti does the same thing

[spare mist]

Yup - bullet ID is cached with a value of 1 for about 0.1 seconds. If another valid hit is detected from that bullet ID, it is ignored.

[sick yoke]

bullet goes against bullet protection, explosion go against explosion protection

[lethal steeple]

yeah that exactly

||i was the one to pester demonized to no end to add that||

||i also pestered him to add the bullet callbacks||

nobody else in testudo was crying about multihits because modders just took it for granted

[sick yoke]

i honestly forgot that bullets didn't have an id like

a year ago

[lethal steeple]

and i was going crazy about it around that time

[normal island]

pester custom engine guy to add his custom functions for future mods
don't do anything with them
stop making mods altogether

[sick yoke]

it just seems like a thing that should exist

[lethal steeple]

like mf i even had a multihit fix approach that just gave you i frames

[normal island]

https://tenor.com/view/based-uh-hello-based-department-based-department-american-psycho-patrick-bateman-gif-22458382

[lethal steeple]

you could only take bullet damage every like 3 frames at 60hz

[blissful ivy]

I FOUND MY SHOTGUN IMAGE

here it is

[normal island]

Nice airsoft gun

[spare mist]

We'll have to wait and see if Grok even adds an improved multi-hit fix and bring back the old AP values

[blissful ivy]

fuck you juan, crawl back in your hole

[lethal steeple]

nah i don't think the ap changes will be rolled back

[normal island]

I'll crawl in ur mom's hole

[lethal steeple]

it's the same issue as upgrades

he won't do it because it's already too late

[blissful ivy]

why would i put a trigger lock on an airsoft gun

[normal island]

Why would you put a trigger lock on any gun

[lethal steeple]

and since gamma is more relevant than vanilla anomaly

[normal island]

Just don't shoot it

[blissful ivy]

also thats a muzzle loader on the floor there, for the 1 person who cares

[normal island]

Chat is this man stupid

[blissful ivy]

its a law

[lethal steeple]

people mod new bullets to have the 90% downscale

[blissful ivy]

but ok

[lethal steeple]

natively

not as a gamma patch

[spare mist]

Unless I send them in as a merge request. That is how I got the PBA Ball change into GAMMA.

[lethal steeple]

ye but that's not fixing the secondary issues

[spare mist]

That is true. Would be a pain for modders (like the 90% change was when it was implemented back then)

[lethal steeple]

i will one day get back to the damage framework

after i wrap up recoil platinum

and i'll do an actually modular and unfucked gbo

[spare mist]

ArtiGrok is currently the closest version of that. But ofc it has Arti effects and my added stuff, but yeah GBO is goofy af

[blissful ivy]

i got a question

when video

[lethal steeple]

what's insane to me is that gbo is the way it is by design

it's conscious design to have it be extremely hard to work with and flat out incompatible with damage altering mods of any kind

[normal island]

Momo what does the first M in the GAMMA acronym stand for

[lethal steeple]

momopate

public enemy number 1

[normal island]

Chat este tipo es bobo hijueputa

[radiant star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912320242301149215/1383107792478670888/how_much_true.gif

[lethal steeple]

re bobina

nashe

de nascar

[normal island]

CACA pa cuando

[radiant star]

caca para hoy.

[lethal steeple]

puta supongo que podria ser a medida que vaya haciendo el framework de daño

quiero sacarme de encima el recoil platinum primero

[spare mist]

I hope this week. I am running out of jobs to apply to and get back to, so now I should have time to devote to video making

[radiant star]

(siemprie dice que tiene halgo para aser primero)

[normal island]

Y si te sacas esta primero

jasaskjdkasjdakjdjajkasjkajkajajajajja

[radiant star]

por favor chicos, solo besanse

[blissful ivy]

poor lad, unemployment (me too bro, me too)

im "between jobs" as those who are in denial about unemployment say

[spare mist]

I got faith that I'll get a job soon, but man do I wish it would come sooner rather than later

[normal island]

What if someone paid you to make daily videos shitting on GAMMA

[spare mist]

Once the video is done, I'll devote some dev time to my mods here then get on making more vids.

I may shit on GAMMA, but it is because of reasons I believe that it are shit. I don't got blind hate for it like I saw in some of the comments on the first video

Like some of them were pretty dumb reasons

[lethal steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/570412375124082718/1260786981496033330/caption.gif

[spare mist]

I plan to make more videos on more than just GAMMA, but I saw an opportunity at the time and made that first video.

[lethal steeple]

people really often see any form of criticism as outright hate

and then you get the "people" that say you can't criticise a free product

subhuman train of thought

[blissful ivy]

"Grok didnt let me setup my buttplug to vibrate whenever i shoot my gun, this is bullshit!" - average redditor hating on gamma for some reason they wont explain

[lethal steeple]

https://github.com/abbihors/buttplug-anomaly

[blissful ivy]

what the fuck?

[radiant star]

[blissful ivy]

thats a thing

[spare mist]

I wish I never read that

[blissful ivy]

lmao WHY?

[blissful ivy]

[celest sparrow]

I wish I had the technology

[lethal steeple]

it's an ancient thing

[blissful ivy]

this is the funniest turn of events

[radiant star]

check behind your ear...

[blissful ivy]

we have have the technology

[lethal steeple]

it's also unironically used as reference for api integrations

[cedar comet]

yooooooooooo WTF THAT DRIP

[blissful ivy]

no way fr?

[blissful ivy]

void drip

[lethal steeple]

i saw it being used as code reference for one guy that integrated twitch chat into anomaly

[spare mist]

There are some things I am better off not knowing - that was one of them

[blissful ivy]

anyways, anomaly buttplug bottom text

[spare mist]

I get why but how unfortunate

[normal island]

Ok I gotta set a new kofi goal now that I know that's a thing

[blissful ivy]

wait

whats the goal...

[radiant star]

[blissful ivy]

[radiant star]

caca por sierto

[blissful ivy]

juan... WHATS THE GOAL FOR?

[blissful ivy]

[cedar comet]

Dude the mercs hired my shadow demon to go kill slavs WTF

[spare mist]

I just remembered I will be playing GAMMA for the first time in about a month so I can have some background footage for the video

[lethal steeple]

about a month goes crazy

about a month ago i did one day of a playthrough after like almost 2 years of not playing the game as a game

and then didn't continue

[spare mist]

Got an SPT itch and have been messing around with that. Too bad my computer's CPU isn't strong enough to handle SPT and better AI mods. But to upgrade would mean a whole new mobo regardless of the brand I pick and that is a pretty penny

Not modding/making mods for it though - just playing

[blissful ivy]

why a new mobo?

are you at the height of your current socket?

[spare mist]

If I wanted to upgrade my CPU, AMD would need a new mobo for obv reasons (have Intel rn). With Intel, any upgrade from my current CPU would not fit the mobo. Different socket.

Pretty much yeah

Would probably not do much for GAMMA but it is something I have had my eye on upgrading for a while now

[lethal steeple]

replace usec 3 with caleb from blood

[blissful ivy]

AMD is a good choice

because intel is just falling off

its ok up until the 13th gen of any of them

and the i9s are over priced

i7 12th gen and down is ok, same with i5 12th and down, and i3? ignore it

AMD is just easier to understand though

[spare mist]

I came back to SPT at probably the worst time - 3.11 just released and had to wait for mods I used from an old install of 3.9 to get updated. And THEN an announcement of 4.0 going into development but switching SPT from use TypeScript to C# as a total re-write.

Modding is going to be weird when that shit hits.

[lethal steeple]

peer pressure barry into releasing the hideout map under the truck cemetery concept that was shown millenia ago

[spare mist]

Yeah, I was aiming for AMD since I had the idea.

[lethal steeple]

and add tarkov hideout mechanics to hideout furniture

including the cultist circle

[lethal steeple]

speaking of modpocalypse

[spare mist]

Gotta find the guy who made the New Levels and hold him hostage until that is made

[lethal steeple]

did you see that professor lander was redoing the entire script layer

[spare mist]

No... now I am truly scared. What would that mean for us?

[lethal steeple]

it was the single craziest commit the modded exes repo has ever seen

i haven't really looked into it since i'm a hack

according to him it'd make things easier

and i trust in actual programmers

[normal island]

It makes me so sad that i'm just a retard gun maker instead of a script smart guy

[cedar comet]

IS THIS ENOUGH PPSH AMMO

[last mesa]

No

[spare mist]

Sometimes I wish I was you - I love using new guns every playthrough and I don't got the skills to do so. Have always thought about giving animation a shot but never got the time to try.

[normal island]

I'm assembling a team

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-i-am-tere-to-talk-to-you-nick-fury-gif-17148011

[spare mist]

I gotta focus on getting my videos and mod updates done first - one step at a time

[blissful ivy]

good news

i fixed that guy's problem

the guy in your thread with the ammo issue

just had to add the special ammo to the ltx

worked fine for the peacekeeper, so it should work here too

[spare mist]

I'll look into trying to incorporate the fix into the compat LTX like I mentioned

[blissful ivy]

yeah well i mean, im lazy as hell, so just did what i know

learning how to do that would mean using my head

its 1 am

im not doing that

and if my fix doesnt work... then uh

well i tried

if it works?

im just him

[spare mist]

From the looks of it, seems to hand off more of the script init work from the engine to work in a more standard Lua enviro. But, with that, comes having more strict Lua formatting from the looks of it + might need to use the few newer functions for certain utilities.

Pretty crazy, but I wonder if it does anything for performance.

[lethal steeple]

stricter lua is a win in my books

lua is way too forgiving

which is what leads to shit like busyhands being prevalent

making modding proner to crashes is a security and good practices w imho

want the game to not crash? improve your code

[fossil yoke]

How do I give myself experience

[cedar comet]

dont trust anyone not even urself

[valid kernel]

Holy fuck do the barrier zombies ever end?

[valid crater]

They usually end like two or three kills after you asked yourself that question.

[valid kernel]

I did not bring enough ammo for this shit apparently

[last mesa]

Yeah. I get you. I used like 300 HP rounds while scoring constant headshots to kill them all

I needed 2-3 headshots just to down an unarmored zombie. Then another round to kill it

Add to that the inaccuracy of the vityaz and the fact some zombies did have helmets? Yeah. Count was going up

But even then I'd take that slog anytime over monolith with multiple RPG spawns

Also I just did Miracle Machine. Is north unlocked or do I need to do the Rainbow Emitter as well?

[scenic maple]

i CAN FINALLY SPEAK IN HERE

[upper rock]

what i need to complete the main mission of agroprom ? i go to strelok stash and loot the two items and mission still say to go laboratory

[radiant star]

!storyline

[dawn marten]

@upper rock #│📚manual message
📚 Storyline Progression Guide™

[upper rock]

what is this ?

there is more to do in the lab ?

[radiant star]

what mission are you on

and click on that

[upper rock]

i cant click on living legend

[radiant star]

hover over it

(in game)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ltWH1CUjjv7KG2lzS0HY4YtQqs7nsW82CilzAULjJdw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

heres the link for LL

[upper rock]

bro

[upper rock]

i got this items

and the mission dont update :/

im gonna try to load old save

[radiant star]

you went into the agroprom underground and found streloks hideout and got his documents but the mission didnt update?

[upper rock]

yep

there is two items, documents and a box

document when i use it disapear

[radiant star]

and now you're current mission isnt following the trail? its still pointing you to agroprom underground labeled "underground hideout?"

[sick yoke]

you need his notebook

walk around his hideout holding f

[upper rock]

yea that it

[upper rock]

3 items so ?

i got two

[sick yoke]

the notebook is the only one that matters

[upper rock]

maybe i dont see the 3 one

but i see one in the wall and one in the stash

there is more ? im gonna try to see now

[radiant star]

the one in the wall

pick everything up

like a2 said

just walk around hold F and pick everything up

[harsh sandal]

Alright MM is done

Let say it was not a pleasant experience to fight everything with a double barrel and bad protection but I managed to survive

Also 5 game crashes

[languid oak]

fighting a pseaudo giant with a double barrel shotgun must be pain

[valid loom]

Such is life in the Zone

[harsh sandal]

It's actually the easiest part

to fight giant

[valid loom]

Ideally Id want to disable MM by now but Id be thrashed by phantoms with my crap psy protection

[harsh sandal]

sins however, I had to sneak to the second floor for a good cover spot before opening fire

almost died to a RPD mofo but I gained insane aim for a sec and threw a single slug into his face before hit could land the last hit

[valid loom]

bullet time lol

[upper rock]

Military documents in strelok place is important or i can sell it to sultan?

[lethal steeple]

you could've given them to reefer

but no loss really

other than some extremely minor character development for a non character

[hollow wadi]

Reefer is such a cool little fella
Too bad he dies instantly

[valid kernel]

Man whyyyy the fuck can you only put the PSO with the eyecup on the SVU

I don't wanna have that giant piece of shit on my screen

[valid loom]

The SV98 scope is available in trader

[valid kernel]

I don't think that fits on the SVU

And for some reason the PSO on the SVU doesn't zoom all the way?

The hell is up with that? It only has like half the zoom

[normal island]

Inconsistency in whatever AK that and the SVU's LTX files

[valid kernel]

Ah, nevermind

Through the scientific method I have discovered

[hollow wadi]

Welcome to "nobody bothered to make zooms consistent"

[valid kernel]

That for some reason the PSO 1M with an eyecup has variable zoom

While the PSO 1M without an eyecup doesn't

[hollow wadi]

Refer to this

[valid kernel]

Goofy ahh game

[hollow wadi]

Stalker :)

[valid kernel]

I'm just glad they zoom the FOV out when you put a scope on the SVU

Thought this shit was gonna take up like 60 percent of the screen

[valid loom]

Muh realism

[ripe lagoon]

I mean athi did bother
I'd just laugh at no 3dss players

[normal island]

God forbid people want good looking scopes

[hollow wadi]

Couldn't tell that was 2D scopes

[valid kernel]

The zone has blessed me with a PKM with a fuctional barrel before Radar. Monolith better count it's fucking days

Why..... did I even bother? Lukash you cheap fuck

[sick yoke]

did you shoot it once

[valid kernel]

I found it in a stash and gave it to him

[blissful ivy]

ew pkm not pkp

[blissful ivy]

yeah thats why

its like artifacts

where if you hand him a literal shitter

hes gonna give you piss all

[valid kernel]

Oh man if only it FUCKING SAID THAT

[blissful ivy]

it seems obvious

"reliable" hands him a shotgun with literally like 1 barely functional trigger

"like ok bud, heres your 2450 rubles you dumb mf" thats what id say to you if you did that

because he asked for a good one

and you gave him the sludge at the bottom of the barrel

[valid kernel]

Mf should find his own shotgun then

[harsh sandal]

I love jumping in one of the most dangerous thermal fields just to grab a mama's beads

[valid kernel]

instead of smoking weed and playing pool in his stupid goon room

[blissful ivy]

thats like saying that the president should go to iraq... wait a sec

you might be onto something

[valid kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

"It's just a wave of zombies. Should be no different than shooting at the range!" 40 zombies later-

[blissful ivy]

ok unrelated note, why does everyone act like the zone is the worst place in fiction

like metro exists, fallout exists, literally any good zombie story

like idk man, all the stalker nerds continue to say no one could survive there

like dawg the worst part of the zone is the PEOPLE

anything else is pretty simple

mutant? shoot it

anomaly? dont go into it

wow

[valid kernel]

Throw this man into the ballcrusher anomaly

[harsh sandal]

yeah, my life is worse

[valid kernel]

Most of these peple probably miss that a main theme of the zone is how almost anyone could just... leave? Yet they choose not to

[harsh sandal]

99% gamblers quit befere they win big

We are all here for fame and fortune

[formal wing]

i mean idk i think the zone is pretty bad

[celest sparrow]

Mutants in lore are a lot more resilient and dangerous than they are portrayed in the game
But at the same time, they're awfully rare to encounter
The most dangerous aspect of the Zone is the people

[blissful ivy]

yeah, and even still, the zone is home to some of the most dangerous weapons too

i mean theres not many places in the world where this many guns are lying around

aside from the USA

[celest sparrow]

But it's not terrible, and is often mentioned how Artifacts have provided alternatives to energy and advance science even further

[blissful ivy]

yeah that too

but mutants wise, not much stands up after a slug

even big game usually bows to the power of a shotgun slug, so i feel like those would be very common weapons

shotguns i mean

[valid kernel]

My ability to trade with bloodsuckers is miraculous and infuriating

[celest sparrow]

You really won't encounter any of the dangerous mutants
Controllers, Chimeras and Giants are RARE

[blissful ivy]

ok i can see giants and chimmys eating slugs

but anything else

and yes those are meant to be rare

[celest sparrow]

Bloodsuckers are probably the only real threat when it comes to Mutant encounters

[blissful ivy]

SoC does it decent enough

[formal wing]

i think we as gamers greatly overestimate how prepared any one person could actually be for hypothetical any video game scenario

[blissful ivy]

because i remember seeing 1 giant

like 1 controller

and no chimmys

so i guess its really rare

[blissful ivy]

yeah suckers are the most common dangerous mutant

the rest are something dangerous, but manageable

[formal wing]

that's not to mention i mean

the whole concept of a noosphere

[blissful ivy]

like boars, tough, but shotguns exist

[harsh sandal]

Controller

[blissful ivy]

still, the only people that really tap into that are people, so therefore people are biggest threat

[harsh sandal]

[blissful ivy]

i meant for the common mutants

not that XD

[harsh sandal]

[celest sparrow]

I don't think you'll ever encounter a Controller

[harsh sandal]

Who know?

[celest sparrow]

You're most likely bound to die from a Bandit than a Mutant

[harsh sandal]

You might accidentally travel near a lab or some horrible places

[celest sparrow]

Probably gonna telepathically tell you to fuck off

[harsh sandal]

Rickroll your mind

[celest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-drop-andy-sad-gif-3101954698583639925

[formal wing]

i think the real issue with the zone would come from the sheer number of people

[harsh sandal]

[valid kernel]

Let's be real. If the zone actually existed it sure as hell wouldn't stay under Ukraines control for very long

Western powers would be SCRAMBLING for that shit

[formal wing]

well yes

it wouldn't be random Joe Slavs fighting their way to fame & glory it'd be constant military attrition to fight for control over the place

[harsh sandal]

Me when 2 stone flowers weight 10kg

[formal wing]

well i mean

[harsh sandal]

[formal wing]

they're called Stone flowers

i'm not sure what you expected 😅

[harsh sandal]

[formal wing]

personally i like to believe that the world has already experienced some sort of long-term global destabilization related to or otherwise coinciding with the appearance of the Zone that makes that Not the case in the games

[blissful ivy]

so im just installing gunslinger for CoP, do i still need to nerf the burers?

because from what ive been reading, its been nerfed in the 2022 gunslinger update

[lethal steeple]

wow gunslinger is now good

[blissful ivy]

[valid kernel]

What do you mean?

[blissful ivy]

i really just didnt want to play CoP with the shitter ass gunplay of the trilogy

[blissful ivy]

in gunslinger, burers were infamously busted

[valid kernel]

Dude it makes total sense that you should need 8 grenades, a hundred round, 20 shotgun shells, an rpg shot and a landmine to kill one burer

[lethal steeple]

like you know how burers have this stance where they become invulnerable

[hollow wadi]

Weakling

[lethal steeple]

in gunslinger that thing lasts for 9 years

and it has a ludicrous amount of health

[valid kernel]

Gunslinger COP was my first stalker experience

[blissful ivy]

sure thing bro, i made it through SoC and CS

and im done bro

[lethal steeple]

AND it can take your weapons and shoot you with them

[blissful ivy]

im not dealing with that bullshit

[valid kernel]

I know full well the hell they created

[formal wing]

how elitist is it of me to say that you should just play the game with zero mods and if it wasn't meant to be then it wasn't meant to be

[blissful ivy]

nerf time XD

[blissful ivy]

very

GSC made a shitshow of gunplay

[harsh sandal]

RPG momento

[blissful ivy]

and im not having it

[harsh sandal]

[hollow wadi]

We playing Clear Sky gunplay raw

Put it in GAMMA

[harsh sandal]

And no ironsight pistols

🔥

[formal wing]

the shitty gunplay of the early games is what i remember the best

oh and that one cutscene with sidorovich that always bugs out

[lethal steeple]

say that in newbies now

watch how the chat instantly devolves into a flame war

[harsh sandal]

[lethal steeple]

because you can not disrespect the trilogy