#🔨base-gamma-support
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Good point.
no error logs so far by the way
If adding those arguments to the executable work directly in the later versions of Windows, then I would actually say that is a much better way of doing it than the ini file
i am testing your examples as well and only changing path, so its supposed to run this cmd and then run the DX11 exe by itself after?
Can you also add /High in front of the affinity argument as well and run it, because if then that would solve the whole debacle
that would run the process as "high" as well as set the cores
No, no no.... If you are modifying the executable like that then the ini file changes are redundant and might actually cause issues. Only do ONE or the OTHER.
Also, if adding arguments to the executable directly, then you don't need the path after, refer to Gulag's pic above.
No change
I'm doing a quick reinstallation just to be sure, I'll try again in a moment
no i made the changes in the ini and then started mo2, didnt make any changes in the mo2 just screenshotting what it looks like in the paths
There is to say that now my .ini looks more like the one Wild send before
Did it set the priority to high or was it running as normal in the description in Win task manager
For some reason the prioirt it always high whether i have anything added or not, so it's not clear
So I've unpacked and made edits (and kept your default alife.ltx handy in the event I fucking break something lmao), but how might I go about repacking said unpacked files?
Ah, if it runs it as high by default, then there's no need for that argument.
No need, you just put the file in a blank addon in MO2 in the same path as the original, it'll over-write it and load.
Also have this, only need to tick Core 0 off manually every time
Okay, so i did the Complete Install, no errors. Started the game, no crash or console Errors. I have no clue why this works. Also 0 is still ticked off.
Clueless 
Yep, but as said before this doesnt help. We are no closer to knowing why.
Ok, I see from the screenshot now....
@gentle tulip come in here 
Shit falco's summoning wizards
He just said in #old-feedback-suggestions something that could be worth
I have arrived
its something we already mentioned about changing the size to 11 i believe 
Right peeps. Those of you on Win 10 or 11, IF you can right click the exe file in the BIN folder and manually add arguments to it as in Grulag's screenshot above then please DO THAT instead of ini file changes. It is much more reliable.
so I updated gamma and now my save doesn't work ;_;
Well here it's 5AM so I don't respond of my actions
We need the log
When i tried to change mine it went back to 0
which one?
and right now it's 0
did you update with a complete installation ?
Look the title of the channel
Oh, ok ok, and yes I did complete install
IF you are running Win7, forget it as Win7 will not disable core 0 anyway reliably.
Okay, so compress the edited alife.ltx to a .rar and install through MO2?
Yes, basically. Make sure the file structure is right, that it passes the necessary folder structure and Mo2 doesn't complain
Mags Redux?
So everyones good on the Core 0 thingymabob?
Your unquestioning aid is appreciated, freedom loving scum ❤️
Nope
ohhh, do I need to re-enable optional mods after an update?
while there is much hustle and/or bustle in this channel can someone tell me if the only revolver in the game is the rex?
Yes 
I see, thank you for the help <3
Erhem. It's "Merc loving scum"

Oh dear
No it doesn't
I just did a complete install
Now I'll try again
you are a genius, that works
just need to test if it still applies if you launch the same exe through mo2 @brisk zinc @desert robin
Trying this one again, size=11 this time
@brisk zinc save works now! tyty
If doing the thing with notepad doesn't work, I'll try with the bin thing
But I don't know what to put in there
To answer your original question, this is why I didn't like the syntax in this method.
The theory is that the binary used is not the game binary, but CMD.exe (dos prompt in other words)
Then the arguments is what actually starts the game by first locating CMD.exe, then inside that it runs START, which then defines the parameters for running the DX11 exe eventually.
It's a crapshow way of doing it.
The better method (if you can) is to directly right click the executable and simply add the affinity argument and possibly also the high priority one to that directly.
When you do that, you can have the "default" section for 11 in your ini file, as it calling the executable will add the native arguments to the exe file that you set in windoze by right clicking it and adding arguments.
Oh shit oh shit!?!?!? IS THIS IT?!?!?! DID WE CRACK THE CODE?!?!?!
awww, but I guess updating resets keybinds :(
Try it
make sure that you have your proper pathway here
So i can get to do a clean Slate and not be worried about Magic i'm not supposed to Wield
^make sure you choose this
yes it will, but you need to revert the changes made to ini back to the "normal" default....
ok
Well I didn't do that, I don't even know if there was something like that before
I'll check
to repair armor can you disassemble other armor for their parts?
yes
Yes, but you still need the Repair Kit for it
This whole time i was specifically not doing that.. 
#old-framerate-optimisation message I have no idea what this is telling me to do, could someone help?
hahaha
Take a sit, you're in for a ride
cause as I said in my little wall of text, the changes in ini become academic because you are changing the actual arguments for running that executable within or without MO2
Hmmm, sounds exciting
We are unwravelling the literal divinci code of GAMMA right now
OH FUCK ME IN THE ASS
i have seen god
Saved for posterity
@gentle tulip DID IT, I'VE PINGED HIM AND HE DID IT, THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
I would rewrite that guide in Framrate, but I can't screenshot the exe properties changes as I refuse to use Win10 or 11 hahahahahaha 🙂
Holy shit, you legends
I'm assuming that this will be formulated into instructional post for the layman (i.e me) in #old-framerate-optimisation ?
Wait so, Falco can you make a Definitive solution and pin it?
I shall now diminish
Can I not just right click the process and untick it like before? Isn't that the same thing?
Okay I'll do it
I'm so lost
Give me a sec
dont worry we will deal with the aftermath, thanks for the help
yes, but you would need to do it every time
We were trying to make it work, now apparently it's working
lol well congratulations, I assume this is a good thing
Give me a sec, I'll post the thing and ping you attach everything god FINALLY
Me right now
your sacrifice was not for nothing
You did this to yourself mang
Nah, it was for nothing 
no matter which method i use all cores are still checked. i'm wondering if it's because i have a space in the file path of the anomaly executable but i'm kind of done messing with it
ssshhh don't tell him.. he needs comfort
Everything works as it's supposed to the only thing that's not in working order is the Shortcut Icon, technically i can leave it as is but i'd rather do it right without not knowing why this works 
Sit tight for Falco's definitive solution
What you do by adding the arguments to the exe file by right clicking it is so that every time that exe file is run those arguments will run with it. It is a more reliable way of doing it than editing the ini file for MO2.
P.S. you can also do it slightly differently in Win7 by adding to the target path, but as I said earlier it's redundant as disabling cores per process in Win7 is a little flaky.
Everyone liked that.
so what exactly do I need to do as far as process affinity goes 
I've been struggling with performance issues in general, this Core 0 thing is my last effort before I call it. I can get it to run generally well but as I turn or render certain areas the FPS drops. Hopefully this can help fix it?
If you are on 10 or 11, revert all your ini file changes back to the way they were by default for that section, then change the arguments section by right clicking the exe file itself - see the screenshot way up by Grulag for an indication. There is also no need for any path arguments if you modify the exe properties.
with this also follow the rest of #old-framerate-optimisation to hopefully get better fps as well
Goodbye Sweet Prince

Of course, if you are on 10 or 11 none of this will prevent it calling the evil mothership back at MS HQ.
Still, I'll let you buy your own tin hats....... 
oh btw for the core 0 thing
For Science
Yeah, already did as much without radically potato-ing my game. I found that sunshafts were the biggest offender and disabling them increased my FPS significantly, but I'm still having issues. I think the modpack may simply be too intensive for my hardware, unfortunately, regardless of graphic settings. What's odd is that I can run, say, Tarkov just fine.
if you have spaces
Right, it's 4:15 am now for me, so I'm off to sleep.
As always if I can help out at all with any Win typical issues, then please don't ask haha 🙂
farewell sweet prince
You guys are speaking in tongues for me I swear, I just want to LARP as a paramilitary goon eating beans in a warzone
to simplify
every time play game, have to do thing to make game work good
now not have to do thing, game work good cause big brain men fix thing
oh now i get it
they make the thing that works for me already work for other people
im the smrt >:)
So, you guys figured out how to disable Core 0 on every launch. I assume some sort of clearer guide will come out in the near future on how to apply this?
HOW TO TURN OFF 0 CORE
Problem:
"How the fuck can I make that 0 core thing work?"
Solution:
I recommend a clean install, like from scratch, because it was the only way it worked and because it's what I did, so your mileage may vary.
So yeah, your "GAMMA RC3" whole folder needs to be deleted. Before you do that, YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR "downloads" FOLDER that you can also find inside your GAMMA RC3 folder.
Again, just to be sure, THIS IS HOW ME, MYSELF AND I, DID IT, BECAUSE I WANTED TO.
I did it just to be sure that everything was clean and new, that's the only reason.
I don't even know if it's necessary, but it's working, I know that for sure. Try it before you actually delete everything, it could work, who knows?
So, do this:
- IF YOU WANT, delete your GAMMA RC3 folder (keep your "downloads" folder)
- extract it again
- open MO2
- select Anomaly folder because it needs to know where the game is
- done, close MO2
Now, here comes the fun:
- open your ModOrganizer.ini that you can find in your GAMMA RC3 folder
- search for
[customExecutables], change "size=10" to "size=11" - then, search for
[recentDirectories] - now copy this code that you can find below, you'll need to paste it LITERALLY ABOVE
[recentDirectories]. (see first picture) - below you can find the code with MY "
bin" path, you need to put YOUR OWN PATH
11\arguments=%ComSpec% /C Start /High /Affinity 0000000000000FFE E:\\Anomaly-1.5.1\\bin\\AnomalyDX11AVX.exe <-- CHANGE THIS WITH YOUR PATH (and delete this line) 11\binary=C:/Windows/System32/cmd.exe 11\hide=false 11\ownicon=false 11\steamAppID= 11\title=STALKER GAMMA DX11AVX 11\toolbar=false 11\workingDirectory=
- save, close, done
(Thank you @whole pewter for the code you absolute madman legend fortnite minecraft gamer Win7 enjoyer)
Now, open your MO2, open the drop down menu (second pic) and select this one (third pic).
Congratulations, you're one of us.
Enjoy your guide
can you keep ur downloaded mods tho
read again lad
i did
first sentence in solution
Jesus Christ IT'S EVEN WRITTEN
i mean i kind of just dont see how downloaded mods will affect everything else /shrug
oh
"of course you need to keep your "download" folder"
ok
Okay I'll make it bigger with this
im having a difficulty wiht reading comprehension today
dont stress
🤌
alright, clean reinstall, my bandwidth will never forgive me
You already have your mods because the "download" folder is safe aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You won't need to download anything
It's already inside your "downloads" folder
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA it's writing and I'm screaming too

@brisk zinc this was actually my problem. i had a space in the directory but wasn't putting quotes in the right part of the file path
I'm confused, I'm not trying to delete my downloads folder. I don't have the original zip files anymore.
Just do a Fresh Download
So, to reinstall from scratch, need to do a full redownload
you don't need to delete anyting

Ok i finally got it. Just tried this and it didn't work, I had to change the [customExecutables]size=11 and also

i am currently trying it without an install, not really working that way? 
Like you have a guide that clearly said that MYSELF did a clean installation because I WANTED TO
You're not obligated to do so
Make sure the path is correct when you change the config in modorganiser.ini
Try my example
I got it working without a reinstall
ok
Change your path... just tried and it works...
It's not a big deal, I've fucked with my installation a lot anyways. Probably best to try it completely clean if I'm ever going to get this modpack working.
When i used backslashes \ it fukedd the path up (in the .ini) but they work in the modify executables part
I didn't understand one thing, you don't have your "downloads" folder anymore?
What "downloads" folder are you talking about? The only one I know of is the default one Windows comes with.
Which, I do have.
its in GAMMA folder lol
My brother in Christ 🤝
Open your GAMMA folder 🙂
I'm going insane

The cost of CPU core 0 off
Again it's 5 in the morning here, bear with me
everything u need for GAMMA installation process is included in that folder
Basically^
My brother in Allah, that's not what "from scratch" means
Around here it does though!
I understand now but that wasn't what I was gathering from what you wrote
Everyone understand that, how come you didn't? Hmmm?

With "from scratch" I always mean = keep the "downloads" folder INSIDE GAMMA because that's where your mods (to be installed with the installer) are
Sorry if I sound aggressive, I'm not trying to. My point is though, from scratch normally means literally from nothing (to me, at least), which means a full redownload/reinstall to me. I ought to do that regardless since I've messed with the files a few times trying some of the suggested tweaks, so to make sure I didn't mess anything up a clean reinstall is probably best practice.
thats how mine looks 
I figured you referring to downloads simply referred to when someone misconstrued something earlier, which is my bad.
Yeah cool. ANy luck?
nope, mo2 runs but nothing happens after
?
If you have a space in any of the folder names for the anomaly executable file path you need to have quotation marks around that folders name or the game won't launch.
yes
It's okay don't worry, it's only a thing that's been written 100000000 times and basically everybody knows it, it's okay... (
)
Jokes aside, I guess you learned something new. And don't worry I understand your point of view
Like I said with "clean reinstall" we always mean "keep that downloads folder", it's automatic at this point
Gotcha, I get what you're saying now. That usage is specific to this server then? I'm newer here and have mostly just used this place for bugfixing, etc.
Launching with the cmd exe in mo2?
yes
Oh you're new, that's why
Why you didn't said it before
small brain
My bad my brother in Buddha 🤝 
No worries lol, I get it. I should've been clearer about that anyways
BTW yes it's really the "usage" in this server, we learn how to bugfix on a daily basis
We're like a big family at this point
Shit, @graceful iron I got mine working but feel like im leaving you out to drown.. i cant understand why its not working for you... hmmmmm Exact same setup as me 
I had to restart mo2 if that makes a diff? And cant edit with notepad while mo2 is open as it saves-over
own familial dialect and everything lol
Regardless, thanks for the help, and clarification. I'll try this stuff later
no its fine, but i have a feeling it wont just be me so i guess we need to find a troubleshooting or another way
What's your problem?
i made sure to close it every time
Ah! Might have it
Replace your path with this, (note the single slashes not double like you have)
%ComSpec% /C Start /High /Affinity 0000000000000FFE F:\GAMMA-RC3\anomaly\bin\AnomalyDX11AVX.exe
and update to your path obv 
🤞
But mine are double 
yeah weird hey. Doubles didnt work for me but singles did
Fair enough
What about cores?
I don't know if it's the same for everyone now that I think about it
Should be, as it checks for 64 and just turns off the first 0 as far as i understand it, so regardless if someone has 4 8 or more, it's still going to turn off 0
If cat's pc didnt explode he should be back by now 
im worried for his safety. its scary out there
Did he already tried to do the thing with ModOrganizer.ini?
yeah, what the way i worked it out was just to add the string to the new cmd via mo2 editing the .exe in there
changing it to single slashes works 

Guess I'll add it to the guide as well
falco please add it as a troubleshooting part
And with that, it's off to play the game now. Farewell all ❤️
Already done my man
Before you go, increased distance on my alife.ltx to 5000, no stuttering, no framerate loss?
Problem solved?
uhh lmao. I dont get how that works, but hey if it works it works? I set mine to 850 (750 default) Because as far as i am aware, the bigger it is the more resources it takes but yeah.. Might be one for the Anomaly discord to elaborate further, they were where i got my knowledge of it. Xray man, it's magic.... (i use 850 as my rig is a beast and i like the added 'live' zone from the bigger distance
One small thing i think might be an issue @bold aurora IF it works how i think it works, having 5000 could cause some issues. Basically it sets the 'active' area as far as that number is. The higher its set the more things 'happen'.
Example might be needing to go find an NPC, so when you get sort of near it (within 750) it activates.. but now you have 5000 it will possibly activate from different maps away (if its not localized to that map somehow) and cause stuff to go a bit weird..
Huh.. I see.. maybe I'll lower it a bit?? 😅
Anyway maybe head to #╙🖇mods-making-discussion for more about this
Thanks for the help, enjoy your freedom 

this is what my .ini line gets changed to when typing in the correct info
11\arguments=%ComSpec% /C Start /High /Affinity 0000000000000FFE C:/"Stalker Anomaly"/bin/AnomalyDX11AVX.exe
11\binary=C:/Windows/System32/cmd.exe
that actually works for me btw. the \ in the file path does not and I had ot have the quotes around Stalker Anomaly folder name for the game to actually run
so is there an issue ?
I had one like 4 hours ago but then I came back and found the solution in all the comments above about it
much has been learned since 4 hours ago
Can Falco add this as additional troubleshoot then aswell? Click the Green and blue tools, go to the CMD (STALKER GAMMA DX11AVX) and add " infront of and after your Root Anomaly folder's name if it has a space. Since for me, and others it appears to Overwrite the .ini everytime, if you change it here it stays.
@willow hawk check the pinned message, something was wrong with the new core0 affinity automatic method in #old-framerate-optimisation so a few people here did some troubleshooting to get it to work so you might want to update the framerate optimisation one ?
dont keep talking in #🔨base-gamma-support
it already got flooded enough
Yes I'll add it in a new message because I've finished the characters, it happen when you modify a message
I'll add the other thing that RcB said as well
What is this random shaking effect?
occasionally just walking around or doing nothing, the screen will start shaking intensely, as if your character needs painkillers. It goes away after a little bit.
Only started, with this update.
The carpal tunnel is kicking in, you're becoming a true gamer 
DOA, it happens when you get close to Vortex or any other Physical (damaging) Anomalies
DAO*
Dynamic Anomalies Overhaul.
People just need to read

I'll check the size thing
Deleting folder makes 0 sense
Rebooting MO2 is the key
If people can't copy paste stuff, I can't do much about it
if the #old-framerate-optimisation one does not work just check pins here i guess
It's the only thing that worked for me though
But I think it was the new ModOrganizer.ini that worked in the end, not the whole folder deleted so I agree with that
copy pasted it and changed file path. the problem was that my anomaly folder is named "Stalker Anomaly." Someone else mentioned if you had a space in the name you needed quotes around it. Did the trick.
Aaah
@willow hawk how long will the really rare artifacts be there after an emission
everytime i open MO2 to launch gamma it resets the modorganizer ini
close mo2 when editing ini, save and close ini and then open mo2
its closed when i change it
It worked earlier when i added the new executable for the core 0 fix but now i cant add the quotes to the filepath
what are you trying to chaneg
Click the Green and blue tools, go to the CMD (STALKER GAMMA DX11AVX) and add " infront of and after your Root Anomaly folder's name if it has a space.
thats what im trying to change but mo2 resets the ini back whenever i open mo2
Alright changing it in MO2 worked
Infinitely
Since no stalkers are going there
wait so, they can stack with each Emission?
No

there's a limit per zone
Ahh
to 1 artefact
so let's say there's 3 spot
and there's x % chance to spawn artefacts
after many emissions all 3 spots will have 1 artefact
in labs the chance is high, so after 2 emissions, the lab should be filed
oh thats neat
i figured it just always spawned 1 artefact after an emission if the artefact was picked up before the emission
Yea
its this a new anomaly ?
also there is a reason why no one its selling me armors or guns ?
have to find and repair them now
another question , i have and aps with the upgrade kit on it , but i cant put the suppressor on it
hover over the gun, what does it say what attachments fit?
it should lol
i know Xd
Hi, i want to start a Sin playthrough, but I am concerned with the state of the current radiation system and the fact that I start quite high up north without a gas mask or anything. how am I supposed to survive?
wait until grok fixes mono/sin loadouts
or give yourself a mask with debug
did he say when he will alter the loadouts? I wonder which one he will add, so i give myself the correct one
For Mono/Sin i'd say the same as UNISG
the GP-25
or 49, can't remember
it's the Snork Mask
was there a plan to give them a different starting armour too? or just the same overcoat
if i want to let time go without sleeping ?
How can I see if the process affinity is working?
task manager, get details on xray.exe, set affinity, see if 0 is ticked off
I don't see xray.exe in there
well its not literally xray
I see these two
guess it's not working
ummmm, how do I set that up?
..did you do the steps in pinned?
aside from the downloading or deleting mods stuff
yea, let me try it one more time in case I fucked it
look at the ini. make sure the path is correct
and make sure you do this
search for [customExecutables], change "size=10" to "size=11"
this is for the cmd
once you did all that, i want you to try and launch trough the cmd if it doesn't work click the green tool https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922555488665743391/971308450187448370/unknown.png?width=960&height=482 and screenshot what i screenshotted
what in the
which is stalker anamoly
" infront and after root folder
I have multiple mod packs in my S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anamoly folder, that's why it looks so weird lol
quotations worked, ty!

it's launching at least
yep, good there
ty!!
any thoughts on this?
I guess if I have no freezing issues I'll ingore
thx again
love this community
Question about the adjust scope hud mod, I am trying to move the weapon farther away or move closed but it doesnt work. I am pressing the required buttons too. whats wrong
it's the numpad plus and minus
i can fix the small mask but not the big one
Look at bottom right
when you press on the other Mask
ur right i need the medium kit
it doesn't work for all sights and 2D scopes
ok
i basically just want to make the weapon look smaller when its in my hands not aiming
the scope takes up a lot of space and my eyes hurt
is there perhaps another setting that can address that?
hud_fov
press b to lower your weapon?
Pressing every time is too much
hud_fov 100
i subconciously press b lol
That helped thanks
Idk what it is but it irritates my eyes when something dark is obstructing my view. Its fine on the k98 but the PU sight is too damn big on the sks
@slow fox oh you also have to press shift
Yes i did
it work?
Why does Librarian in CS base talk about a pseudodog? Theres none around?
It runs between the canteen and its kennel, usually
Is there a way to avoid radiation patches in early game? Even with Geiger counter in hand and set to environmental, it only shows radiation when you're actually getting radiated. Any tips on that?
im like 10 hours in and still getting smashed by rads. Rads are actually deadly now, which is neat but kind of a pain. Just smokes and beers man..
On the plus it makes me actually need to USE smokes and beers now. Before they were just sellables. Batteries are still a joke though, so i doubled the drain and that offset it pretty nice and made them actually useful/valuable again.
The change in rads made me get a proper head gear repaired. Army warehouses kicked my butt a few times just with radiation lol
Thanks, I thought maybe I'm missing something obvious here on how to avoid radiation 
before i never took rads seriously, now they keep me awake at night
is there a new rad overlay? I keep getting this weird texture that pops in and out
I believe DAO modified some values in postprocess.ltx
This grain fx is terrible lol
I'll make a post in feedback then
LOL! It's there in base Anomaly. I've mentioned this a few months ago. There's supposed to be a pseudodog in front of the Doctor's tunnel as well...but even that furball got removed
why i lose rep if who give me a quest die ?
you let down a dead person, even worse imo
How can i open apartment 26 in pripyat?
I have a stash marked there which i want
The door is locked
I got streloks manuscript from outside, through the window
I worry the stash is inside the room
Is there a way to get on top of that hotel maybe? I think I checked but who knows
Can anyone think of a reason why there are 2 freedom members agro to me (as a Loner) in the base at Army Warehouse and all other freedom members are fine?
Bounty hunters
I though Bounty Hunters don't trigger inside bases like Rostok and inside Army Warehouses
They did for me
and as soon as I shoot them the whole freedom base agros
Is Chimera growls ever getting removed?
what autumn texture mods are recommended
I thought i seen it in the stall of the canteen next to the trader
Of the CS base
Think about why I'm not removing it 
||cause all add-ons would have a different number afterwards||
There is a complicated answer to this in terms of Dos commands.
However, the TL;DR of it all is that singles should normally be used for something like this, not doubles. Most engine translators will change the doubles to singles for their own purposes anyway. You can see an example of this if you try and type a filepath with doubles into a post in a application like Discord. A copy paste of something you write in Notepad with doubles will appear in a post here with singles. This is because the "translator" in Discord in fact recognises those doubles in a path as singles anyway.
I'll post a second method with screenshots later in feedback or somewhere that should be much easier for people to do than modifying the ini files. It's basically the method that Grulag used. It also means not having to know the file path, or dealing with ""'s due to spaces, etc etc.
That way people will have 2 ways to do the same thing. 1 for people comfortable with ini file editing, path names, and how Dos shell arguments work (the method Falco cleared up) and 2 which will be a bit more point, click, enter less text and the same text for everyone regardless of paths.
I think you will find #2 to be much easier, but give me about an hour to do some RL stuff, take screenies, edit them with some scribble, & then post it up 🙂
P.S. The changing of size=10 to size=11 in the ini just formally changes the number of items that MO2 sees in the drop down box when you click on it with MO2 open. You had 10, then you added this new one, so it should go from 10 to 11. The ini file is created when you do the first install Gamma steps and make a portable instance, and that 10 and all the entries are as a result of MO2 "scanning" the game directory you specified for where the game "lives" 🙂
It's nothing more complicated than that. Anyway, I'll make an "easier" more foolproof guide with lots of screenies in a bit.
Is there a way to access hips hidden inventory? I don't think companion inventory unlock mod is working with hip.
She has this broken svt and an ak that I can't seem to get from her. She constantly tries to switch weapons during the fight.
It may be that she acquired the SVT before becoming your companion, then you should go to MCM > companion inventory unlock, and disable the "only show items companion acquired while on your service"
Oh, I've never seen that option! Thank you!
@willow hawk Here is an easier way to disable Core 0 using MO2 without editing any files or knowing paths etc. I have put it into 5 easy slides. Feel free to add this as an alternate method in #old-framerate-optimisation if you wish 🙂
Oops, one sec need to remove black areas from shots
just wondering, is there a way to get back the vanilla visuals for a few of the anomalies? the new vfx look great but i'm a sucker for the subtler vanilla look
My stalker has been awake for 72 hours or so and he's still not "Tired enough to sleep" lol
unticking cinematic vfx in the modlist should make them appear vanilla again i think
COCAINE
Idk if it's cause the caffine tabs and energy drinks.. orif the mods not working.. or he's randomly gonna die from sleep deprivation tbh
he's doing lines when you pause the game
All slides. Instructions printed on them.
Ty this fixed my Issue
aweseome ty. i figured it was cinematic vfx but i didn't see it in the modlist. does it also use hollywood vfx?
not really tho.. I needa get my guy to sleep pls help
did you try the sleeping pills?]
Oh fuck. :/
@brisk zinc Made an alternative method for you from this morning. Perhaps you could pin this if you want - see slides above.
WAIT THERES ACTUALLY COCAINE IN THE GAME
fuck.. i took like 6 sleeping pills and my guy is neither sick or tired. I think I got a cursed stalker. LMAO
definitely bugged, one should do the trick
guess you don't have to worry about sleep 
Ayy.... Late night parties with the mutatants.. forever... Woooo
Yes, thank you for your contribution
❤️
no probs. It was early morning for me, half asleep, and I probably confused a bunch of people myself included 🙂
Did the last update with DAO include a Chemical Resist change?
@willow hawk Looks like the same thing is happening to helmets too, including those with chem resist upgrades
did i misread something somewhere or can you "install" upgrades in your backpacks? i cannot quite remember
like aluminium frame
Far as i know, not in gamma. efp yes.
you changed the sleep deprivation settings? also if even with sleeping pills you cant sleep you definitely broke something
Is there a way to save mod keybinds and mod settings so i dont have to setup mag and zoom keys everytime after updating mods?
I need to make a pinned thing of this
I will, but first, I'll answer you
Rename your GAMMA MCM options mod and use that instead of the updated mod
Thank you Shifty 
Also, when you want to do a "complete installation", you need to save your user.ltx if you made any change
Because that file IIRC contains the "normal options" things, like mouse sensitivity, video, audio, etc., while the MCM mod only contain the "mod options""
user.ltx are your normal settings (video, audio, keybinds, etc)
So, can we ignore the "path too long" errors if powershell=1 before starting the installation?
TROUBLESHOOTING FOR THE 0 CORE THING because I don't have Nitro so I need to do another message and pin it (seriously Discord?):
The whole guide didn't work for you? Try one/all this:
-
Instead of double
\\in your path, change them to a single\. You only need to change the\\in your path, don't change anything else.
For example, this is with my path: E:\Anomaly-1.5.1\bin\AnomalyDX11AVX.exe -
You should have in your drop down menu a "CMD (STALKER GAMMA DX11AVX)" thing by now.
Click the Green and blue tools inside MO2 (see pic for reference), go to the CMD (STALKER GAMMA DX11AVX) and add"in front of AND after your Root Anomaly folder's name, if it has a space. This is because it appears that the .ini gets overwrite every time, but if you change it, it will stay.
Did you start the installer with admin rights?
Forgot.
💀
Try it and let me know
Okay, it probably is just one specific mod that don't like the thing, don't worry
Do the installation anyway
inb4 okay_cat129 barge in saying "no Falco it can't be you stoopid"
Is this a fresh install or updating?
Update.
So just the GAMMA things
Trying it right now just to check
i think its not just one mod that gets this error
idk if we should just ignore it or if we have to go back to deleting mods folder

Well @fleet grail
At this point you can be our sacrificial lamb
dont spam installation or moddb will put you on bad list though
Just because it's a hassle do the right click>admin everytime, I've directly put "start with admin" in properties
And it work
Windows 11 "start with admin" is somwhere i cannot find it
without deleting mods folder? it does not give any errors ?
Nope, nothing
windows 11 

Windows 11
Windows 11 Pro "HP proprietary Edition, now with 10Gb more bloatware" 
Expression : I
Function : CInifile::Load::<lambda_09b1998f39da0b770d173ef2710f9a54>::()::<lambda_1f1cfbb500e08f480d4770e069203744>::operator ()
File : Xr_ini.cpp
Line : 312
Description : Can't find include file:
Arguments : sound_layers\wpn_AR_sounds.ltx
stack trace:

Game doesnt even launch
Still downloading btw, what the hell did Grok put inside that .zip, bricks? 
How many mods do you have?
275, same as i've always had
missing mod files
275 mods tho 👀
even if the mod is installed, its missing files 
with that specific error
wait let me get the mod first
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/blindsides-weapon-reanimation-and-rebalance-jsrs-patch usually its this mod causing the error, download it manually and put it in downloads
whats the size?
This is in "mods" files
Going to do a complete installation brb 
I'll do the following now;
- Delete /mods
- Launch G.A.M.M.A._Installer (As admin)
- Tick Powershell, Close and restart PC
- Launch G.A.M.M.A._Installer (As admin)
- Tick Powershell again 'cause fricking why not?
- Complete install
I don't see why you need to restart your PC but okay I guess?
make sure you are using the 3.2 installer and i suggest you wait before reinstalling again cuz moddb exists
dont tell me you were using the 3.1 ?
No, i was just about to ask should i use 3.1
no
Mods folder was only 4 Gb 
Hmmm
summon Grok
The bigger problem is that it doesn't say what mod is
Opening the game, let's see
I'm in
@willow hawk doing a complete installation bring this, I don't know what mod could be
The game works, I have 274 mods

@fleet grail check that mod I guess?
100
@fleet grail try 100
Because he can't start the game
He also have that problem
We seriously don't know why
What's the crash ?
@willow hawk should be this
Whats dl.html ?
How many add-ons / red crosses @fleet grail
Probably blocked... check Moddb
Of course after 5 install you are flagged as a bot



It works perfectly fine
This if Moddb doesn't go back in time
Try to NOT check frequently
You saw 37 minutes, okay, don't check anymore
can i swap to my phone's 5G mobile and skip the wait
Download this and use the VPN in #old-only-installer-support
Or use another internet connection yes
It could be a good workaround if it works, since you don't need to download anything, this of course if you already have the whole "downloads" folder
After you have downloaded the archive just put the mods zip in GAMMA RC3 downloads
If you are sure you don't need to download anything in terms of add-ons, then yes simply use your 5g and do a complete install
We dont have limits on our mobile internet plans here
Should i delete /downloads just to be sure?
Where? Time to move there
West Mongolia (Finland)
If you download the whole archive you can just put it in there
It will ask you to replace it
dont, never delete that
Done it twice today
moddb really hates fast connections, having a slow connection actually saves you from moddb blocks
slow internet for the win (as long as the slow connection is stable)
using a fast connection once every hour or 2 is fine for them, but more than that and you are a bot
Installer needs a button "Check if band from Moddb"
½ way installed and 0 errors.
Guess its solved
"check if you are a bot" button
"how many times have you attempted to install gamma within the past hour" "5" "you are 99.9% a bot"
Add a "Check if band from Moddb" button as a captcha 
Aight game works now
check if artefacts still reset 
day 13 without sleep. my stalker is stronger then your stalker - rest if for the weak.
Tested, doesnt reset now.
why are you putting this in #🔨base-gamma-support ? also as i told you, you either changed the sleep deprivation settings in game or broke something in the mods that edit sleep 
Too bad i already lost my 90ish Firefly
Ok, a few stupid questions if i may:
- Artifacts and their condition. Saw something about "empowering them", not sure how. Any tips?
- For some reason there are little to no BGM and ambient sounds. What affects it? May i just slap BGM pack on top of GAMMA?
- How do i enable dead body icons on minimap (like in original stalkers)? I swear there was an option, can't find it now for some reason. Sorry & thanks.
is this mod thinking of adding a Overdose feature? For realism
I just noticed you can take like 4 morphine back to back and it just makes you a lil woozy or tired \
- Artefact Melter™️
- You mean music? Check in options, if you mean sounds, go for it
- 169 in mod loader
- #│📚manual artefact melter, artefacts reinvention
- most ambient sounds are disabled by soundscape overhaul since they are kind of annoying and have sounds like zombies and dogs that dont actually exist so its just (scare factor) or something
- disable 169
^
Thanks though
Gotta fiddle a little. Can't have my game quiet, i need annoying sounds in background.
Literally the only server where people fight to answer...
how about play and try to be helpful on 2nd monitor
haha funny
if you want help with a changed and gutted gamma mod list please go to #🔨modded-gamma-support otherwise if you have a base gamma mod list feel free to ask for help
@tribal plover speaking of "sound", I think it's sounds, GAMMA already have something about it like Soundscape Overhaul and Horror Overhaul, check in the first separator in the mod list "1- Audio" for more, to also have an idea of what's already in
Did 9x21 get nerfed?
a bit yes
"abit" its onpar with 9x19 ap
its supposed to be just a more powerful 9mm AP
whats the exact AP value now?
0.38, same as 9x19 AP
Here's a serious question - so - in the game there is a few armors that reference a faction called "Final day" but i've never heard of them outside the reference to the Armor/Helmets. was that faction going to be modded in at any point?
it has to do with stalker story/lore
you can look up the faction i guess, never know if someone made a mod on moddb about it
Yeah it was referenced in SOC I didn't know if there were plans to actually add members of the faction - Just thought of it because a helmet I came across
its cut content if i remember correctly
Newbie question. Will moving my Anomaly save to Gamma read it properly and unlock the 3 factions for me on a new game in gamma?
or do I have to redo the quests
they're unlocked by default? atleast for me they are.
sin renegade and unisg?
Mhm
you can just type the faction names in the starting menu to unlock them
Also, anomaly's bypass type-im men-
no
ah yeah I'm aware of the type in code
I just wanted the achievement done so I get them permanently
i have no idea if putting a save in like that works, but you definitely wont be able to launch the saves if they were vanilla or other mods
#📢development i guess put your thoughts in #old-feedback-suggestions 
I think not being able to launch the save is fine. I think ive done most of the things I can do in vanilla anomaly
hopefully gamma is potato friendly with new guns
BaS always caused issues for me for whatever reason
even on a fresh install
Is there any link to the soundtrack for this modpack?
@graceful iron why inventory scroll really slow after update
tf ?
#old-framerate-optimisation especially the core0 affinity for stutters and check the pinned messages here
I think I know what you're saying
It's a thing that has been there from the very beginning, sometimes it get stuck
ohh I will try that right now
I always thought the stutters were because of this toaster I'm running the game on lmao
@junior epoch you can stop the reaction spam now please, thanks
i7-11700K RTX3080 = 47-65fps depends how many bandits try to steal my mosin
Ryzen 7 3700X RTX3070 = almost like you 
It's an old game of a mod based on a modpack from a mod from a game etc. filled with 275 mods, it's normal at this point
65fps on a 3080 and i7? I got a i7 with a 2060 nearly maxed with shaders and I jump between 138 - 112
qwat
Maxed what exactly?
Might be geforce doing some stupid stuff
everything but view distance and the filtering
dlss maybe?
and SSAO
V-sync fucking with us?
I turn V sync off
Nah aint got vsync on.
I mean G-SYNC
could be old game new gfx card not optimized for each other type of thing as well
Playing on 2560x1440 tho
Obviously, me too
could be resolution
I've got a question about the 0 affinity tweak. Do I need to now load with the 'STALKER GAMMA DX11AVX'?
Since I've done the tweak
Atleast i get 1900 fps on loading screens
Yes
LETS GOOOOO
yes just launch that
I thought so but wanted to confirm
This is my favorite channel but I must go before I get put in time out 😢
I cant use Core 0 tweak since MO2 still thinks my anomaly is on my desktop
Can i safely reinstall mo2?
wait, you have mo2 installed ?
I suggest you to uninstall MO2 and make it portable
portable instance, never install mo2
We always recommend to NOT have MO2 installed because it can bring issues
how to delet portable and make new
Literally uninstall it
go to settings and uninstall mo2
then open the mo2 exe in gammaRC3 and set up directories there
windows settings
win 11 dont have that?
Win 11 is so poop its buried somewhere
probably installed itself overnight lmao
theres no mo2 installed
then you didnt install it, you are fine
close call... would have probably needed to install again and at this point i am too scared to tell you to do it again 
if it works, dont fix it at this point
btw is dx11 recommended even if the machine isnt exactly a modern machine
ive been running on anomaly in dx8
you can try dx10 for better stability i think
0 core instant +20fps
along with the framerate opti settings
0 core works on dx10 too? neat
yes, it works on most programs, its a windows/task manager feature
@fleet grail You should be able to change the location of anomaly through the MO2 settings
that nice, I didnt know that
Nvm 0 core makes game stutter hard when taking mags out of suit, opening stash etc.
are you sure thats what causing it 
Yes
did you try with core0 enabled ?
why
lmao
It refreshes the inventories when adding/removing a mag from suit
Yes.
This is going to sound funny, but has anyone noticed that Higher fps = faster game and animations? i.e same as Fallout 4 and 76?
When reloading, the animation finishes faster, higher the fps at the current time (noticeable animation end - "click" when i.e reload finishes)
Is the tactical kit for this sold by WP factions or is it something the monolith trader sells specifically?
You can get it at the boat (if trader mod enabled? maybe?)
nimble sells it but its NATO factions that have it, at least clear sky i seen it with
gotcha
I'm getting warnings that a bounty squad(soldiers I guess) is coming to get me. If I wait for them at Cordon farm, will they eventually come or will they only spawn and attack me after I’ve moved to another area(garbage, swamp..) ?
they will reach you, eventually
bounty squads has code that prevents the hitmen going to your location if you're surrounded by allies
ofc if you are in a friendly base they wont attack
but yeah, as soon as you get away from friendlies get ready
Ok thx, I'll wait for them at the outpost then 
Does anybody know where ZCP settings data is stored ? It's kinda grating to have to set everything back up after every little update 
literally
Yeah I really need to make that FAQ
Grok need to make launcher installer button to backup and restore
what?
all you have to do is rename the mod, and you can backup your user ltx easily, why make it harder by making buttons 
makes grok appear more professional
will this also backup settings and keybinds? not MCM related
only mcm, you can backup user ltx in anomaly/appdata to keep the game settings
ty, always so helpful 
BACKING UP KEYBINDS, SETTINGS/MOD SETTINGS, ETC.
Problem:
"My user settings/my mod settings are constantly reset everytime I update/do something, what can I do about it?"
Solution:
Concerning user settings like keybinds or settings (duh), you can backup your user.ltx file that you can find in your Anomaly/appdata folder.
When you want to update or you need to perform a clean installation, just take out the file and put it back in when you're done.
Concerning mod settings, you simply need to renominate a mod called "G.A.M.M.A. MCM values - Rename to keep your personal changes". You just need to remove "- Rename to keep your personal changes".
So now your mode will be called "G.A.M.M.A. MCM values.
Next time you'll update or perform a clean install, you'll find two mods: the one you renominate and the old one. Keep your renominated mod and delete the other.
Another problem solved by just saying "check pins"
I think having an option to not overwrite user.itx would be good to have in the installer
I have a question about this
what do I do to get my downloads folder back in place? Just Overwrite it?
Could someone give me a basic breakdown of how to fix a weapon from broken parts, what to use for what? It's been a little while since I did it, and with the overhaul i can't remember how it all works 😂
For example what weapon repair kits I need to use etc
simplest way to repair a gun is by right click maintain when you have the repair kit in your inventory, you can replace each part and it will consume a use from the repair kit and you can check what repair kit a gun needs by right click details on the gun
there is also the option to find each part and replace it on the field by drag and dropping it on the gun but the gun has to be clean (in a high overall condition) and replacing this way reduces overall gun condition slowly with each part but is best used early game when you dont have the toolkits to craft or buy repair kits
third way is to craft/buy the repair kit but also get the parts for the gun, open a crafting menu (you can use the toolkits to do this by right click open crafting) and replacing parts in, this wont consume uses on the repair kit so its a bit more cost effective
ramrods, files and multitools are needed to repair the parts you have but can only repair parts on 60% and higher condition, there is a part repair kit that is sold by mechanics after you deliver the advanced toolkit to them that can repair parts on 10% and higher
i think it works but no, you install any mod by using the mo2 install feature, never put mods in the root anomaly folder thats used for gamma
the mod needs to be in zip file format for mo2 to recognize it
I finally loaded in, but aren't UNISG supposed to be hostile to CS?
wait what? you did a reinstall ? you can just move the downloads folder back into gammaRC3 and if it askes click replace
they should be hostile 
ah alright
and no i didnt reinstall yet
I got fast traveled right in to the middle of their camp in Radar.
you dont have to reinstall
so this is the folder that should be deleted?
start from here, you dont have to reinstall anything
Ik, I just made a downloads backup
Brilliant, thanks! Definetely a little different to vanilla anomaly then
WPO
its somewhat complicated at first but its kind of fun to have a few more things to fix in a gun than just one big condition bar
and its not hard once you get used to it
Oh yeah for sure. Glad I know about the no repairs on parts under 60% thing, that's what's stumped me I think, been trying to repair parts that are like 20% with the file etc
I think this might not work in my case
because my dumbass made the path too long 
also before i forget, you can maintain the gun in the long run by having a cleaning kit on you when going out, right click and maintain > clean part when they start becoming dirty
how? thats not too long it should work
put "anomaly(with game files)" in " marks
same for "STALKER GAMMA"
yea but it'll be E:\STALKER GAMMA\Anomaly (with game files)\bin\AnomalyDX11AVX
I'm concerned it won't work 
it works, just try it
and use the " for any folder names with spaces like what i showed you above
so it will be E:\"STALKER GAMMA"\"Anomaly(with game files)"\bin\AnomalyDX11AVX
wait...
oh
ok i think that should be it
yes i was wondering why it deleted mine as well 
So when will the new dynamic anomalies spawn on an existing save?
most likely after an emission
Just tried dragging a better part onto a weapon around the 20% condition Mark, and it said the weapon is too rusty to dismantle in field. What's the threshold?
best thing to do is to pay a mechanic to clean the gun, not sure whats the exact condition it needs to be
unless you have a tool that can clean the gun at that condition but i dont think there is a tool that can clean guns on 20% other than the actual repair kit
the threshold is ~26%
Ah, I'll have to find myself a toolkit, I remember being able to build some right grotty weapons from that as long as I repaired all the parts
i'm 100% certain that i tried to replace parts on a 25% gun and it didn't let me
just pray the gun has a dirty piece, so you can clean it with a cheap cleaning kit
cleaning parts boosts the condition like >10% usually
it does, so thats one way to get the overall condition up if you have a cleaning kit and one of the parts needs cleaning
you cant replace barrels on the field, so either try to find a gun with a good or dirty barrel condition since that can be cleaned easily or use a repair kit
damaged barrels reduce gun damage and AP power of the shots from it by large amounts so its not worth using a damaged barrel
getting the barrel dirty on a drop is a godsend
Hmm, okay, so, I need to change my approach, I've found near wrecks that in vanilla I usually expect to polish them up. But yeah, now it seems like I need to be a little more selective. I understand now when grok says expect to have your first weapon set for a while
welp I think I did everything right but when I try to launch it it just closes right away

since it's using cmd.exe it's not going to show any errors if there's something wrong with the syntax. just post what you have on your argument line there's likely an error in it somewhere
yeah or just click the green and blue gears in MO2 to modify them with the MO2 GUI
so what do i change here?
that bit at the end needs to point to where your anomalydx11avx.exe is
if theres a space in any of the folder names you need to put quotation marks around the name of the folder
ill post an example 1 sec
yes but it's only needed if there is a space in the folder name like the example above
ah got it
it's because my games folder is named STALKER GAMMA and my gamma RC3 is named Anomaly (with game files) - exactly like this
i literally told you to do that 
does it work now?
i thought i typed this thing right
no
if you try to edit that file with MO2 open it will revert the change when you close MO2
so just make the edit in MO2 itself or edit the file while MO2 is closed
I edited through notepad
and saved it
or should i rename my anomaly files folder to something simpler and shorter?
that would work as well just make sure you update the paths in MO2
oke 
you should just need to update the managed game path in the paths tab but I've never done it so I don't know for sure
just post your ini and i'll modify it
oke
btw I changed the anomaly files folder to Gamma RC3 so maybe that can cause problems because some lines are unchanged?
you'll have to change the other paths like for the launcher if you want to use it but the one you have set for the cmd launcher for core affintiy is correct
bruh do you know what a quotation mark is you used double apostrophes 
cmd.exe is using technology from the 90s it cares a lot
yeah it's the same file i just replaced the double apostrophes with quotation marks
aight
you'll need to update the path for the launcher if you want to use it through MO2 though
by clicking the green and blue gears and then just set the correct paths (binary/start in) for anomaly launcher
Just did it
it finally opened 
and core 0 is off 
I have played GAMMA a lot and I have amazing time playing it, great Stalker experience indeed. I used to have 240+ mods activated and the game was pretty stable, no issues. After some time I have UPDATED the GAMMA mod and I have noticed now I have only 80 mods active. The whole mod folder is a mess (before it was all in order from 1 to 300 or so). Now, I am totally lost which mods should be on and which should be off. Do I have to place them in the order as before (1 to 300). Is there any link how the latest version/s should be organized? Right now I cannot even launch the game, getting lot of errors. I appreciate any help. Thanks
only 80 mods enabled ? when was the last time you did a complete installation ?
just a small question
was ingame zooming removed? 
and what is the version of the installer you are using ? the latest one should be 3.2
no, make sure to rebind it in the mcm
Ah ok
you can first try #│🔧troubleshooting scrambled load order, but i think you might be missing a few mods and moddb probably flagged you when you tried to install
those 80 mods were activated by itself after the update... I see that my organizer is 2.4.4
you installed mo2 ? it should be 2.4.2 and a portable instance
there is a mo2 exe in gammaRC3 so you dont need to install or update mod organizer
make sure to uninstall mo2 in the windows settings, then launch the exe in gammaRC3 and set the directories/paths
the installer will show this when opening mo2
ok, i will try that
ok ok found it, it’s right now 
change any keybinds that are in red since it means they are conflicting with some other keybind either in the game settings or the mcm
How can I make the ground more bright? It gets really dark when it rains, and I can barely make anything out on my screen.
It doesn't make sense that the sky is bright as hell, and yet the ground is dark. especially at 11AM in-game.
I believe it's an issue with that specific weather and the new screen space shaders but it shouldn't be that dark. I've seen this question a couple of times but never a definitive answer. You could try deleting the shaders_cache folder in your anomaly1.5.1/appdata folder and then launching the game again to see if that resolves the issue.
I'll try that. What I believe it is, is the Dynamic Tonemap mod, and its adjusting the r2_sun hemi value
to something really low, causing it to be super dark.
you can change the minimum of that in the mcm
see if that changes anything as well
yeah good to know. It is a bit dark in some weathers so I'll have to make some adjustments and test it out later when I have time.
Lol. I delete shaders, but I can't check because ofc, when I load the save, it decides to stop the rain.
anomaly's weather is something else
MO2 it's 2.4.4 now, no harm in updating it
So? It isn't a problem
My working GAMMA game confirms it

Yes it install a MO2 thing in one folder but that's it
what are you doing falco? trying to make me go cry in a corner ? 
I'm serious, it's not a problem 
seriously grok said never install or update mo2 
Update as well? Really?
That's new for me
You can install it btw
You don't need to create a global thing
Apart from that, you can, you just need to make portable things
i know that, but it can get in the way when doing another mo2 install, it tells you that you already have another portable one
it can break some stuff later, how do you preach something you dont do 
I've asked him one time and he said it was okay to do more portable things
Because if you want to play another game that uses MO2, you can do that, as long as everything is portable
you can edit the weather in debug mode
Is the no grass addon still compatible?
F
I accidentally enabled the compass a while ago; how do I re-enable the minimap? I can't find the setting ;_;
So you basically enabled the compass mod?
yes
my brain does not want to work today
i dont recall recentdirectories being so far down
I feel something got jumbled
Yeah
RC3 Delete I reckon?
This is my thing if you want to try it
It's on 2.4.4 tho, I don't know if that can do something
I did listen cat 
yeah, now the ini is all sorts of out of order
well, it was before I changed it back and remained
game freeze then crash after playing 30 min or so
jhappened to me 3 times
using amd gpu
just gonna do a side by side comparison to see the orders of things


