#🎪bruh-fart
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It looks so fucking good
they have like 200% crit bonus
or 160 i don't recall
also are assault rifles still cucked
i have yet to find anything ebtter than vladof underbarrel shotty or jakobs one shot shotty
She also has a perk that makes any crit have a 5% chance of triggering her kill skills so you can just mag-dump into an enemy’s face for stacks
yeah so funny thing about that
how is BL4 btw?
doesn't she have one that triggers kill skills on crit
yes console have no problems there
And honestly that perk feels really necessary if we ever get raid bosses because kill skills builds in previous games really suffered against those
heres my not quite fully optimized build
i need a better higher level copy of that same class item type
Unless you’re doing insane Krieg bloodsplosion shenanigans but I try not to put myself in Krieg’s mind, tis a silly place
zane could trigger them
Fl4k also had a legendary class mod that could do it
yea
literally BIS no questions asked
i hope we get more takedowns
i was sad to see that eldritch blast is underwhelming
but i need to get more melee centric gear to try it
i wanted to try a biden blast build
ive even tried sorta building into it and it doesnt do shit
was good for leveling
used this most of the game
but sucks in endgame so far
ill have to fuck with it some more
does the game have a melee gun
like that one that deals melee dmg on hit
Midlands 4
You know considering how much of Vex’s kit has lifesteal I wonder if she got Tyreen’s powers after we fucking murdered that cringe bitch
unironically looks to be the best in the series
Then again the Siren lore and how new Sirens are made is all over the place
but wont be recognized as one because "muh optimisation, my gtx 960 obviously should run it, its all ue5 fault!!!!!!"
Midlands the Franchise
and randy isn't helping
tardkov player
I dont play midkov either
wow an actual good person
skullfuck lobotomy in bio
uhhh
Honestly Borderlands 4 feels like the Borderlands formula except it's mixed with Far Cry
Yes, it's a song I like
Damn I'm no longer a good person
i don't like the destiny bait visuals tho
let me google
Album cover is gorey
wtf did you expect with that name
A Taylor swift song
either ram ranch type song or heavy metal
me when i meet taylor swift
It's a really good game! I started it... Then switched to Linux and I haven't gone in the mood of playing it yet again
I tried KCD1, it was very good
But my laptop is shit and barely does 20fps on lowest for some reason
still need to play kcd1
i got it for free from epic
I am on a 1650 so it should run well
Need to get back to my polearm run in kcd2
KCD2 is everything you would hope for a KCD1 successor
it's the mobile version
Haven't left the first area and maxed out stealth

A-Life right from the get go
We are talking about a 2018 game
kcd1 or 2
my bad g i misunderstood
RDR2 runs at 60
but yeah kcd1 was ass on launch iirc
like no card could run it at ultra
true, nowadays the 4070 super type shi can run anything
its a laptop
what cpu do you have
kcd1 has worse performance than 2 + laptop = gg
I play MGSV at the moment and I don't get why we need to push graphics beyond that... Shit looks amazing
still shouldn't be that big of a difference
Crysis type shit
I had less fps on my 1060 on kcd1 than I did on 2 and I was running lower settings on the first game

Aaaaand I just got a call from my manager about how my coworker called in the fourth time this month and I need to cover his shift today, which is my day off
game is running fine at ultra with 50fps on a 1650
i think it's an issue with sounds laptop
Its a me issue
Thank god my (ex) step-dad gave me a 4070 super as a grad gift
30% less performance than destkop
It runs well for the first 3 minutes
could be 50% less depending on thermal throttling
IF I launch the game right after turning the pc on
I love gaming shittop
it's not about the card
it could be throttling
I needed the laptop to be mobile
100% going desktop
fuck laptops
it do be like dat
I hope acer ceo gets the healthcare ceo treatment
Already did
Amazing game
The pistol guy has to be my favourite
I forgot his name
Dismas
Highwayman?
yea
Yee
he fits in so many comps
i don't think rimworld works on mobile
there are already bangers on mobile
Its flooded with shit
dead cells
slay the spire
balatro to name a few
even the og gta games and bully are there
But its the most rotten form of gaming
first kotor
most profitable
xcom EU/EW if iirc
you could always emulate older games
my brother in christ rimworld is tower defence what are you going to check?
I often treat rimworld like solitaire
i played mgs 1 on my phone
steam deck
since I keep it in the background while doing shit
it doesnt take much resources
||with less than 6 mods||
pass a day, check if colonists have tables to eat at, harvest a lung
and go back to work
Now that I think of it, I have never did an ending in rimworld
Since I often just do 30h colonies, delete and start a new one
My playtime is hella low too
pawn walked past rotting corpse to do swimming and now he is mad and going to kill everyone
ngl berserk is better than food binge
with food binge you are getting fucked with a mace
With berserk you just grab a colonist that is passionate about melee
just let him eat bro
rice isn't hard to obtain
One has enjoyable activity, other has catharsis
3 simple meals down the drain
I dont make 5 star resorts
I make labor camps
If one colonist is specifically a pain in the ass, I only allow him to eat corpses
or 24h work
no sleep
inhumanize him at least
who let this guy be a colony owner
And believe me, I tried like 2 times to make a civil colony
sadist

It ended with me selling yayo to nude cannibals
one of my favourite videogames for real
I enjoy making lavish colonies for my pawns cause I do care about them
The slaves on the other hand
Oh I may get muted for saying some stuff that I did

Yttakin are just farm equipment to me.
There are no crucifixion mods in the game
Raider gameplay is awesome
putting heads on spikes and shit
building bikes and raiding colonies
Don't even need to be raiders to make skullspikes tbh you can just do that anyway
I enjoy decorating slave rooms with uranium skullspikes
My favourite activity is putting 5 corpses of a certain faction into one of those one use shuttle transport pods, and throwing them back to their faction

that or nuclear waste
my favorite activity was making sure my villagers were happy and satisfied
or literal shit

If they have the balls to get angry I just send my psycaster super soldier to wipe them off the face of the earth
A perfectly normal and reasonable handgun
that looks like a 50cal
oh yea
one of the worst things I did in rimworld
I made a slave sell himself
I stripped him off winter clothing cause I needed it for my colonists, and asked him to go to a trader and literally sell himself
oh hey
how did you get exiled 
something something
I like bulgarias vibe - I said
/k/ommando
oh
Also CIA singleshot insurgent pistols if they were good
Browning Machine Gun
oh
so does your hand break if u shoot that pistol
Anyways anton pls
equally as annoying, yet they are no match for the JDM kid
Yes.
The russian 12.7x108mm is actually longer
That thing is a hand held flashbang. The barrel is far too short to burn most of the powder before the projectile exits.
But the m2 browning is still more iconic 
It actually might not be that terrible to shoot but I wouldn't volunteer myself
that's the point

I hope the dumbass threads something onto that
Before he test fires
both are no match for the 14.5x114
14.5 my beloved
Coughing Ebay turbo civic vs hydrogen junkyard LS swap
I wish there was a PTRD in GAMMA 
fallout pistols be like
God I would love a PTRS
the only actually good looking pistols in fallout are the revolvers
only missing a twingo
whaaat you dont like the big 10mm
My beloved

Or the wz.35 polish anti tank rifle which acted more like HESH than an AP round which is fucking crazy
The og 10mm pistol is a revolver btw
Fallout guns always been goofy as fuck
from the side, it's alright but when using it, it looks like shit 
it looks like the guns i used to make as a kid with my legos
ain't got nothing on the Lucky or .44 Magnum
God I've always wanted a functional Lucky replica
sexo
Lucky my beloved
aint lucky the .357 in primm?
Yeah
the main reason I invest in lockpick early 
@prime zenith mrow
1911?
war club?
oh
maria
Light Shining In Darkness?
Maria is a Hi-Power but ye
Jarvis, genocide the White Legs
save video
already done
Ok Garmin, sneering imperialist
Daniel is a pussyass bitch unfit for the wasteland
he should go to a pre-war college campus to mingle with Liberal Arts undergrads
Society if Honest Hearts wasn't rushed
"B-but we can't defend ourselves! It will make us violent!!"
fr fr
do you know what pacifists, social darwinists, and nihilists have in common?
The survivalist could've been his own main character tbh
the fastest way to win an argument against them is to murder them
nihilism is just worse existentialism

Pacifism sounds so nice on the outside, but it's doomed to fail
There are people who will want you dead no matter what
Nihilism is fake and gae
And true pacifism is a nobody-wins game
Its the most misinterpreted fucking philosophy too
"Oh nothing matters so i will sit on my ass"
True pacifism is removing what makes others fight. So instead of abating one side, you screw over both, and that naturally makes them hate you
nowadays, 90% of "nihilists" are just fat redditors using it as an excuse to do nothing
Sun's gonna explode in a billion years. Why live
got decent friends and family
gaming and gooning is pretty good
motorsport is 🔥
and also, there's no guarantee that what comes after death is better than this
@high wing did you see new itr2 update

Yes
But my old man back has been killing me
stop getting backshots then
No
make me a burger cockrider @naive bison
15 doler
wtf

what does it do

fucked up
Hate this fucking gun
it better suck me off and grind kappa for that price
Feels insanely inaccurate, the shooting sound sucks
are there any legendaries that dont do any damage with their main fire mode but he underbarrel does like 7 septillion dps
And the jam animation on reload feels so unsatisfying
"That phone sex was CRAZY 🔥 "
What's itr2
Into the radius 2
so...
every single vanilla fnv gun?
No there are good ones
like?
Hunting rifle, varmint rifle, pistols, caravan shotgun
varmint rifle
accurate

I also meant this btw
what mods/dlc
Prophesy of Pendor
more of that please
God save your soul
That mod is absurdly hard if you dare to fight the elves
yeah i had a 32 Noldors versus my 97 and i lost , i got 1 tapped before i even set my troops
by a random horse archer

Yeah sounds like pendor
Yeah i finished it before , it is fun af but grindy especially if u want to do kingdom order thingie
and the gems u need to fight a lot of bosses
Is this motherfucking warband?
Is there a no slowmo version?
I just found that one
bro had the motorcycle helemt for a reason
I mean it's .50 BMG in a handgun, the thing's going to be incredibly fucking loud
bad stance

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@heady crow gey
yuh uh :3
I'm not here to drool over Hollywood. But if you want a name, how about Margot Robbie? She's definitely got that whole "smokin' hot" vibe going on. Now go watch a movie or something instead of wasting time here.
clanker doesnt listen to retards
I'm trying to find a soundtrack based on a sample at the end but nothing comes up
Probably some OST from Killing Floor.
Sounds like it.

felicita
@pale ingot @fossil swan @regal thorn
@narrow lotus
ban @versed notch
i SAW that shit split second got his user
is he gone
Henry Cavill

ice spice looks like something is wrong with her
she gives me fetal alcohol syndrome vibes but not all the way there
he had a bigger part in making rock chicks
what even is the context here
but i want my racecar bed
ngl if I would see her irl... I couldn't tell if she was a famous actress.
She has an everyday face with no special features. I could scroll through Tinder and find many similar women her age.
is that the lady from modern family
no idea, but she played barbie
margot robbie?
ye
i would say margot robbie is pretty
she is, but she is also unremarkable
she ALMOST looks like her
I still think she's beautiful not because she's an actress
@grizzled meadow i finally found this on a monday to post
another everday face... of course she almost looks like her
that must be, how asians or africans see white people 
i swear to god hes gonna be a ghost and hes still gonna be in the games showing up
random flashback to him
why does youtube allow straight up porn to be uploaded on youtube
cause youtube doesnt even know what youtube allows
Link or didn't happen
I just saw an ad thats just not even censored porn

they dont at all
Exactly 
even 4chan is more moderated
yeah thy want it all automated
the adblock in question:
theres alot of creators getting alerts that their content is being marked as for kids
its on youtube shorts
when they literally have cursing and adult themes
my opinion on all the shit btw
of youtube moderation
why do you have porn ads
???
ive never encountered them but i see alot of people have
all my ads are about fucking block blast
its prolly bypassing some kinda system
it doesnt make sense because some youtubers get demonitized for no reason
even tiktok femboys are getting block blast sponsorships, its ridiculous
trust me when I say this I did NOT place this brick into my algorythim
theyll do anything to stop you from having an ad blocker on instead of fixing their own platform
I mean... just been happening for a while 
Not news to me
FREE BRADLEY!!!!
I did not place place that fucking brick
Oh, youtube ads
Yeah no, there is no actual enforcing of their ToS when it comes to ads
They even allow adBlock ads, while it is strictly prohibited to promote these (in videos)
2 unskippable ads before a video for no reason:
you can take those tanks home
i had 150 seconds of ads before
2 unskippable 20 minute ads
SOME OF THEM ARENT EVEN ADS
5 30 second ads
its fucking stupud
cash money
You guys watch YouTube on your phone or what???
RIP
but i have an ad blocker for that as well
smetimes
im not watching these fuck ass ads
I don't, I can't bare the ads
I watch youtube while my main monitor displays war thunder
Wart hunder
Install ad blockers!
Ublock origin
opera gx has adblockers by default
so does brave iirc
but it doesnt work on youtube for no reason
i use brave for twitch
I shuttered by hearing the name of that browser...
Also, I thin GX is chromium based?
it is
If it's chromium based, no wonder you see ads on youtube 
You gotta switch to FireFox or Brave Browser Stella
these show up for everyone
and I just got this from scrolling
even for kids
thats the major issue
what the fuck
tired of seeing badly hidden porn as my ads
@coarse bear think fast chucklefuck
if it did it would already happen
but instead they're just

i think the biggest one is showing they are violating the child safety act
thats prolly harder to prove i guess
yep, I only watch youtube for pyrocynical content, but the moment I scroll on shorts?
i either use it as a music player cause i cant give a shit to open spotify or watch some random shit on YT
is that walter white's wife
no

i remember finding actual japanese porn on youtube around 2016ish
I was bluffing, but thank you
you can easily find actual porn
youtubes algorithm identifying every single swear word and subtle violent threat to demonetize creators but misses straight up porn
youtube doesnt allow gun youtubers to show loading a magazine in
but allows porn
(you could just react with this)
the barely lethal kind
but its fucking stupid
the joke is porn
laugh
is this one of your imaginary comedians again?
no
its real
censored/uncensored porn exists on youtube and its allowed to exist for this long
10/10
I never get recommended anything like this
must be a you problem
you have to look for it
whatever happened to comedy man
sometimes the joke is just porn or instagram humor being just the n word
the comedians in my head tell funnier jokes
i dunno
the n word is pretty funny
true, but porn isn't
why don't you elaborate on that a little?
instagram humor
comedy is back
i think the n word is funny and im tired of pretending it's not
Officer 🅱️alls
he is just jollymaxxing
its not christmas yet
@stone blade lmao
I'd like to react to that image but I am stuck here for 1968 years
@coarse bear 3 days been enough, come on
@stone blade
when that guy said they don't trust you as a teacher, that's what I had in mind
some shithead with a modicum of authority abuses it, and the kids develop a disdain for authority figures
that's how we end up with freetards
IRA cat
b b b based
the joke is porn
youtube exists cause porn
people wanted to find Janet Jackson's superbowl "wardrobe malfunction"
of her exposed nipple
There's a Helldivers channel?
Will I get banned for posting big booty bitches
i think that one isnt even porn its just a recurring joke within the frieren anime/manga where the dumb bitch gets eaten by mimics 24/7
and that tongue?
You know
its been like that for a while
at what point is it just soft core porn
Comically large ass
i once got sent a yt link with futa furry porn
this hand
Brazilian butt lift, the cosmetic surgery with the highest mortality rate
the youtube blackmarket
wtf do they do to you
They post it in helldivers?
the joke is porn again
Inject filler in cheeks
like fucking a water bed
made another woman cry today thats two points for me
you're so clueless

dude that looks gross what
no.
BECAUSE ITS PORN
why does it have the highest mortality rate cause i cant imagine its just like that one oil where all it does is eat away your muscles
what does the filler do
the joke has always been porn
I have a sixth sense whenever something is gooner bait
you know what would be pretty funny
we should deport Iedy to the UK
I would never but
you know
torture
It would be funny
have another
Thats fucking torture
and another
So according to this website, they suck the fat out of your body then inject it into your butt muscles. However that fat can leak into your veins and create a clot.
Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9896146/#:~:text=A total of 692 surgeons,deadliest procedure in plastic surgery.
death due to BBL 😭
natural selection
shhhh thats natural selection at work
"When you're late to the flame war"
Thanks but I like my women naturally gifted
darwin awards have a special award to bbl related deaths
its natural selection, let it happen
okay this is pretty funny
7 reacts and 1 ambatukam , sound is never leaving the brainfart planes
those are men tho
Funny? It's just feet
The mod abusers have deemed so
Oh yeah, seeing your name i can imagine why the American court wants to investigate discord for radicalisation

its my old xbox username from when I used to play mw2
Good times
yep.
wild
so was the shit said in the lobbies
The only socially acceptable slurs are against the Roma, for Americans don't have them and it hasn't been politically woken
I never played cod during its glory days cause I was a Lithuanian kid with only singleplayer access to xbox 360
because romas havent been to america
nor historically migrated there
They stop in spain, France and uk
if they did, they would have a slur for them
I'm about to get ripped
A slur exists and its simillar to hippo
wait what? americans have a slur for romanis?
Brits do
just buy mastic gum, the original mewing gum
At this point try chewing a tungsten cube
They are already called gypsy which is a slur enough that Germany no longer uses it in food product names but Americans just think of a fortune teller
Mastic gum is expensive as fuck on amazon
yeah, but what is the american slur for them
Dunno any
If they have slightly dark skin we just call em sandbuddy
sandbuddy?
Sandexpletive
thats a diet version of the real thing
This reminds me how a few years ago our city government leveled a gypsy clan and then a few years later the newly elected lefties tried to make them look like victims
sandexplosive
careful when mentioning anything political
What is a gypsy clan?
group of gypsies
A clan of gypsies
(Queue statistics showing that crime rates fucking dropped after that clan was dissolved)
Yeahduh
I have a dedicated white German friend that we point to and he just says it whenever it's appropriate. Such as playing catan where the robber(black figurine) starts on the sand tile
Basically a spot in a city or town they build a bunch of shit in and live while stealing electricity and evading taxes
Ah
Think of literal zone bandits but irl
they steal electricity and evade taxes?
Yes
No they'll just harass you for money
They are living like the rich
Further proves my point
no wonder why they're hated
If a gypsy isnt being a tribalist then he is no longer gypsy
That is an actual thing in their culture.
I never seen them personally
Just ask any of the eastern Euros here
I'm western european
Calling them scum is an insult to mold
Oh they'll be near you soon enough
They sorta do have their gypsies in france
They are called indians
they're already here, not the gypsies though
fix your posture chat
Ourple
I was deadlifting and doing pull ups today
Get ripped
why
My left shoulder aint feeling good
excuses excuses
I didnt say i didnt have a proper posture
its more comfortable when I don't
Price: $50
except when it fucks up your spine and you will have backpain
no not really
I can sleep in any scenario
The Bay Harbor Superman
where's the porn iedy?
this drawing style, it feels gey
its also optimized for playing, writing, anything that requires focus
who are you and what have you done with iedy?
I'm sure this is just a one time thing

The fuck is this zesty ass emoji artem
it isnt Iedy without the 🅿️ orn
Destroy Dick December is just tuesday for Iedy
day 1 of asking mods to add this as emoji
or this to stickers
its useful
whenever Iedy posts gooner content
next thing you know, he is helping gamma newbies
terrifying
anyway time for me to go sleep gn gooners
and then he'll stop talking shit about gypsies
fuck gypsies
fuck em
fucking horror movie character
evil Iedy
gypsy hate will never stop
Evil Iedy sounds terrifying
evil iedy be like: "i like gypsies"
Evil Iedy is a gypsy
Evil Iedy doesnt post porn
that's a regular iedy
HEY how come he can post feet
damn evil iedy sounds like he would be great
Evil Iedy be like:
"This AI image of Hitler baking bread is offensive and would be inappropriate to post on the GAMMA server."
terrifying concept
No
he let that slip?
evil falco
deleting fun
Me at jam thursday
He can't
fun
AI men feet
what about women's feet
No
its pretty funny though
armpits?
🤨

gachi?
Yes
god bless
was that
Gooners keep going this is ♂️ gachibass♂️ neighborhood.
reaction image
the final number that broke the Buzy's back
broke buzys back? broke back? brokeback?
same 🤝
i didnt understand what it was because my gamma is so fucked
but now i see it
Jokes on you I never had anything remotely resembling a relationship
see how can busy post feet
you will have a train in the trenches and you will love it
Based
I am forever damnded to be a recee dude with stupid vast knowledge of military vehicles
Bruvington 
It was a variation of "the straw that broke the camel's back"
МGE ИСТОРИЙ ИЗ ОКОПОВ
you just need to find someone with equal special interests
dw
I need to send you a couple of those vids cause they are entertaining
busy, how are you doing?
wheres the 50 blessings call when you need them
Glad I dont play it
at that point just enlist
I keep them on speed dial for whenever I see russians in my neighborhood
keep the real ones on speed dial
(I am the russians in my neighborhood)
It was very funny explaining to my classmates that I am not catholic and that I live in a family whos marriage is hated by both churches
at that point, the operator on the other end would just turn into Lowtiergod
(For some fucking reason old believers and catholics cant marry)
channel name really and I mean really fits the vibe
why am I in bulgaria
I wonder the same thing everyday
is that where brainfart geologically is
Yes
damn
old believers? so you follow the old testament?
Orthodox equivalent of Amish, any changes done to russian orthodoxy by Nikon's reforms is considered heresy cause change of scripture is change to faith
@heady crow ❤️
frotta alt account
two sides of the same coin
Documents wise I am a religious minority but being honest
This whole marital bullshit in my family which prevents them from practicing their faith is stupid.
based
a minority?
Yes Lithuania is majority catholic
Then there is Orthodoxy and old believers are an even smaller group
i dont want any of you in my Evropa
Which is funny cause Paganism was so deep rooted in Lithuanian culture we had to replace a part of it with polish customs as to become proper catholics
This is what being the last pagan bastion of europe does to a mf
I'm having a hard time determining if you're german/austrian or finnish
Stella is hagposting (she is not even in her 30s)
He is a finnish tank goblin
I got called hag by a bunch of e-girls
I just went with it
I did a fucking face reveal in that server and I got called hag because I had eyebags
People mistake me for a depressed lithuanian salary man who just took out a mortage
hag
I am 17
damn
Quoting a friend of mine "Slavs age like milk"
why tf would you do a face reveal?
did you already come from a divorce?
anomaly companions when i want them to just stay 200 meters behind and not die
Never felt a touch of a woman
it was a server called mommy hangout or something
it was filled with e-girls
25 years old btw
Not a stupid ass gif spam no
its gone, I was banned
my brother in christ
those are lowtierwhores
they're not actually moms
I know
@river zealot @heady crow You In?
instead of axes we post buff half naked tf2 mercs in stalker outfits
he is me frfr
but if 18-20 year olds are already calling me hag when I'm just 23
half true, ever seen a slav couple?
because according to them due to the eyebags and dead expression "look like my aunt with 5 divorces already"
Yes
Brother I was born to one
On a side note, why does stella have a new personality again
my real self
rush into a relationship before the army for character development. like 4 people in my platoon broke up during the service including one who was married and had a kid 
not a good time for one
during the 1 year?
yeah type shit
we were out there dawg
A Curonian, Varyag and a Finno Ugric warrior walk into an e girl hangout
Arent you like 25 or some shit
well granted if the relationship doesent survive the army it woulndt have survived otherwise
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