╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[noble moss]

real

[strong talon]

and another one

[mint current]

this is not good

[shy ravine]

why are you purple

[noble moss]

yapping

[errant ermine]

[noble moss]

reload while sprinting

[shy ravine]

time to mute this

[rain finch]

Small guide on how to mod stalker2:

No i'm kidding I don't have time atm

[noble moss]

[wintry patrol]

Wouldn't it be better to make it a forum style channel

Like #1035807043933720576

[gaunt radish]

another stalker 2 general chat shitpost channel to watch over

[rain finch]

aah potentially true

[strong talon]

Anything interesting that popped up in S2 and might be considered to be ported over to Anomaly? (general question, i don't follow the game and anything that it contains. Asking more if there's like some neat features there)

[noble moss]

maybe this one is discussion like https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/967696698065436682

[gaunt radish]

i wanted to say that in a second

[rain finch]

atm it's more about "how to mod stalker2" than "let's post mods" so I think an open channel is good enough

[noble moss]

ye that's what i had in mind

[quiet scroll]

Alright

How do I remove all shadows

[full storm]

play at night

[indigo beacon]

grok bless you for the tanky bloodsuckers mod. the cave was just stupid.

[proven night]

someone got a mod to add A-life to stalker 2? lul

[dawn osprey]

GAMMA v2??

[quiet scroll]

Its there

[quiet scroll]

Die

[indigo beacon]

give it some time. modders would defo do their thing ;D

[proven night]

doesnt feel like its there, shit keeps spawning next to me

[indigo beacon]

i mean it will happen with time so LOL

[proven night]

Stalker 2 is cool, but i felt like Gamma is cooler

[hollow sinew]

dont clutter this channel with bullshit, keep it to 90% modding talk

[nova hatch]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

[gaunt radish]

okay grok, can we just remove all the unfunny gamma 2 talk and the casual gameplay stalker 2 talk from this channel? this will absolutely become "stalker2-chat 2.0" because noone reads

[empty crescent]

So far I can't find any real config files at all, is there anywhere the day night cycle can be drawn out? Shit happens so fast

[proven night]

ill remove myself

[empty crescent]

Also sleeping is completely disjointed from the cycle too, it's been two in game days and not so much as a yawn

[indigo beacon]

i feel like the another mod that would be helpful is a bit better flashlight, shit is still darker than everything. also holy hell the lighting changes from inside and outside of buildings is horrid. bright as hell outside, door wide open, and inside is pitch black, can barely see anything.

[empty crescent]

Oh the eye adaption is ridiculous

We don't need a better flashlight, just better tuned adaption

[proven night]

lighting indoors is terrible

[empty crescent]

And hemi brightness

Yeah

[indigo beacon]

yup.

[proven night]

cannot see a damn thing, the laterns give off nothing

[noble moss]

i think one that shoots farther is better

[indigo beacon]

its literally annoying, someone is shooting you from inside a building and you dont know where that person is as any window is just pitch black

[wicked marlin]

Yeah it can be sunniest day outside but you can’t see a dammn thing even in a room full of windows

[noble moss]

or something like radiophobia3 where you can switch between 2 modes for flashlight

[indigo beacon]

yup... that defo needs a change.

[empty crescent]

Just a tip, change the gamma from the base 40% to 50% makes it a little more bearable

I thought I'd try everything stock settings but nah

[thin rune]

@rain finch I'm not sure how far you have gotten in Stalker 2. But some of my friends who beelined the main story and gotten further say that you earn a lot more money from missions later on so maybe repairing equipment will not be as big a pain in the deeper regions of the zone?

[indigo beacon]

i did that and still not the best. what kind of monitor you need to have to see these tiny differences, devs might just have a damn monster brightness on monitors.

[limpid ruin]

The whole sleeping mechanic appeared when I finished the spoiler ||1st round of the arena|| but I haven't played futher so who knows

[indigo beacon]

also considering checking out HDR mode. anyone played around with that?

[ashen oxide]

And here come grok pings

[indigo beacon]

wondering how the blacks will be affected, if that doesn't change much then it waiting for kids will be needed

[thin rune]

at least the ping is "maybe don't make mod and waste time" ((play the game)) instead of "please make gamma 2" lol

[fresh oak]

if some gigachad could make a mod to alter the viewmodel fov, that would be great

[errant ermine]

Bhsro in S2 when

[indigo beacon]

also wondering, existing performance mods, worth it for low end setup? (RX580 8GB + R5 2600) just wondering if imma have any performance gains as playing FSR on ultraperformance aint the best quality. looks ass tbh

[jolly fjord]

It's now part of my headcannon that Skrif hugs their Emotional Support MP5 when travelling the zone

[ashen oxide]

yes

[indigo beacon]

theres few of em already, which one works the best for yall?

[ashen oxide]

but that is more for #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting i guess

[indigo beacon]

i mean its modding talk kinda so

[lunar fossil]

is there any mod that would increase day/night duration?

[indigo beacon]

the nights feel like ages as well lol

[lunar fossil]

i want to explore the zone so badly and then, goes night time

i can;t even make it to another area

[nimble path]

Me too! Need to be able to sleep in every bed.. or have a camp option

[indigo beacon]

i just do it anyway, changing the speed of night/day cycle would be hella nice.

[jolly fjord]

tbf we also notice night a lot more than day, but yeah, time moves way too fast. I can't even travel 1 km before day is half done

[willow hornet]

Hey @rain finch if ever you find the time (lol, probably not happening) i'd like to pick your brain on how to start making mods for S2. I can also help if you need batch work or some tests done (Compiling shaders urgh) I am a game dev (Technical Designer)

[rain finch]

Crude and brief tutorial of how to perform simple modding in STALKER 2

Get the tools:

• Fmodel: https://github.com/4sval/FModel/releases
• unrealpak: https://github.com/btwOreO/unrealpak/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

Hack stuff:

• Get the AES key (google the tutorials, not sure it's legal).
• Get the usmap file (google the tutorials, not sure it's legal).

Extracting files

• Boot Fmodel
• Go to Directory at the top > AES key, write down the AES key.
• Go to Settings > Set Local Mapping File Enabled, and browse the mapping file there, point to the usmap file.
• In Settings, set the game UE version to UE5_1.
• Start browsing the paks files and using FModel: https://github.com/Dmgvol/UE_Modding/blob/main/TheBasics/UsingFModel.md
• Extract files you desire.

Modify the files the way you want

.cfg files are trival, just open them and edit the values. Textures, models and the like are harder to work with, as you need to cook the files once they are extracted in an empty UE project to generate uasset cooked files. Without the cooking, certain files won't be loaded by the game (if you find an uasset file in a pak, the file in your mod needs to be an uasset file, even though that uasset file might only contain a single png).

Repak the files

• Make a folder named MyModName_P
• Copy the modified files in there with the full folder structure starting from Stalker2 or Engine.
• Your mod should thus look like MyModName_P/Stalker2/GameLite/GameData...
• Drag and drop that folder on the unrealpak UnrealPak-With-Compression.bat, it will generate a .pak file.

Loading the mod

• Add the pak file in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Content\Paks\~mods (create the ~mods folder if it doesn't exist).

[indigo beacon]

ayooo nice

[noble moss]

[indigo beacon]

time to turn off the game and check out the mods

[red plank]

i agree day and night are to short id like it if both were increased or day was a little longer and night is the same

[indigo beacon]

a way to change lenght of day/night would be nice (kinda like what 7DTD does)

idk much about unreal modding but i hope some kind of MCM will appear soon to tweak mods that will be coming out

[wraith latch]

some people say day and night cycle speed is tightly connected to game logic, if you mingle in that AI becomes passive, guns don't shoot properly and stuff. I just read that, don't know for myself

[willow hornet]

We probably wont need MCM on unreal, I think we can straight up inject the stuff directly into the ingame menus but that would require the devs help

[indigo beacon]

that would be painful if thats true

[indigo beacon]

getting the devs to make a built in MCM for modding would be sick (considering they already said that modding will be a thing 100%) all users like to tweak their mods even if slightly and without a way to have everything in one place will be kinda annoying.

[tidal yew]

If we get gamma 2 I'm buying the game

[indigo beacon]

just get gamepass :^)

[rain finch]

seems about right

then it's a matter of time passing

[indigo beacon]

ayo? is it actually doable?

if that previous comment was true then this wouldnt be possible currently

[rain finch]

Might be this ?

[indigo beacon]

would this be in minutes?

[wraith latch]

looks like changing the day to night ratio is the fast option for now but making the cycle longer would fuck up game logic?

[worn stirrup]

dumb question if im making a mod folder do i name it "mods" or "~mods"

[indigo beacon]

if thats in minutes then would it be possible to make one day last 1 hour? would be way better than the short day/night cycle that there is currently

~mods

[worn stirrup]

ok ty

[rain finch]

I don't know

I didn't even play the game

[steel musk]

1 hour in realtime = 24 hours ingame as default

[rain finch]

I guess so yes

[wraith latch]

well you are a grease monkey, by the end of the day you will know ;P

[rain finch]

I'll try making a mod and will post it here

[indigo beacon]

@rain finch ig we will need to do some testing, if you have any beta testing shit throw it my way my pc would be crying but im up to helping with at least that

[autumn swan]

It is defo a little too short, but if its extended I'll kill myself if we don't have the option to sleep

[main juniper]

hi guys, just a quick question, i really would love to make a sawn-off shotty being available as sidearm instead of a pistol. i played like that in gamma and loved it. is it possible to make it fittable into pistol slot?

[indigo beacon]

it feels way shorter, i have 2 hours ingame and it went like 4 times already with the day

[main juniper]

since you already made mods for stalker2 which is insane 😄

[steel musk]

I think our sense of time gets fucky due to weather changing the lighting. 1 hour is what GSC told before

[indigo beacon]

give it time lol, currently people are doing optimalisation and other fixes, that stuff would defo be doable with time

[lunar fossil]

you can always check the time in pda

so you can see what hour it is in game

[indigo beacon]

yeah its way too dark, getting a mod to change weather settings like in Gamma would be hella nice as weather really makes everything just stupidly dark most of the time.

[main juniper]

ye sure, i believe so! 🙂 was just wondering

[indigo beacon]

i think that was anomaly base settings now that i think about it

[steel musk]

I just feel like the "eye adaptation" thing and interiors are just too dark by default

[indigo beacon]

yeah the differences between inside and outside are too great. lowering the values and balancing the lighting would be a must

[lunar fossil]

i'm trying not to play the game even tho i waited so long, just so i can fine tune it to my liking with mods, the zone is way to nice to explore it during night time to be fair

[steel musk]

A mod to change the Veteran player damage back to 1.0 from 0.75 would be nice too

[worn stirrup]

tbh i hate the "eye adaptation"

[tidal yew]

Why though?
Wouldn't it be best to wait a bit with how buggy the game was since gsc will probably fix a lot of stuff themselves?

[indigo beacon]

im just playing it even if its kinda unplayable lol

[indigo beacon]

considering how stalker modding community is i can imagine them fixing everything way faster than GSC would ever be able to. maybe GSC would even allow some mods and fixes to be implemented into the main game if the community works together.

[wraith latch]

I will w8 for decent downgrade and optimalisation mod, game starts for 10 minutes and run like ass on my 1050ti (with a downgrade mod already)

[indigo beacon]

1050ti? how the hell have you even launched the game LOL

[wraith latch]

it's even playable xD

[indigo beacon]

im running 40fps without any mods on my RX580 8GB. just got the mods installed so lets see how different it becomes.

if anything i would be able to squeeze out some performance and OC my CPU and GPU.

[tidal yew]

Oh well

[indigo beacon]

ah lovely

ig i need to get the Vram fix version

[worn stirrup]

download more ram

[tidal yew]

How much do you have?

[indigo beacon]

16gb + 8gb Vram

the mods have two variants one for this error

[wraith latch]

vram fix version makes starting the game up longer and running worse, but I didn't get this error when entering newbie village. I did on regular BOOST version tho, only when approached this village

[tidal yew]

Okay at least

[indigo beacon]

got this rn on compiling shaders so imma try my luck with the vram fix version

welp launching it again. hopefully no crash this time. cmon my RX580 you can do it 😂

[worn stirrup]

the little gpu that could

[indigo beacon]

i mean this gpu is 100% capable of running some heavy games. Cyberpunk runs 60fps on medium settings stable with no stutters. ig this game just needs some fixes currently.

also compiling shaders is now actually going really fast compared to previously with the non vram fix version

[charred stag]

we need animal skinning. Ammo check. Weapon inspect and a handful of weapons and I am happy lol this game is amazing

[wide cypress]

Tbh I'm having trouble running the game with the 1060 GB, which tbh it's been able to run a lot of stuff

[tidal yew]

A life improvements

[indigo beacon]

so some mechanics from the old games would be nice tho i agree.

[indigo beacon]

3gb or 6gb model?

[indigo beacon]

and that 100%

[wide cypress]

6Gb

[indigo beacon]

should run just fine considering its minimal req

[charred stag]

better healing too. more in depth like gamma is needed too.

[wide cypress]

Yeah, but frame gen looks like ass and without it's rough

[worn stirrup]

does make me kinda sad that stealth is near impossible

[indigo beacon]

without framegen the performance is just horrid. artifacting with the "blurry" textures as you walk past something is just jarring

[high plaza]

how do i mod stalker i see .pak files but im not familiar

[worn stirrup]

look at pinned

[high plaza]

i shoulda checked that didnt see it thans!

[wicked marlin]

I haven’t noticed any issues with frame gen so far

DLSS

[wide cypress]

I'll try to fiddle with the settings more, tbh I probably didn't try hard enough

[indigo beacon]

another issue i spotted on my setup without framegen the screen tends to flicker. no issue with FSR on and Framegen on.

[gusty olive]

WHEN GAMMA 2.0?

[worn stirrup]

my issue is i had steam game recording running in the background 💀

[indigo beacon]

lol

[wide cypress]

I'm probably gonna order a 7800 XT tomorrow anyway, that 1060 is getting old... It's been through hell and back tho, drawer computers, open air motherboards, burnt PSU... It's still living

[tidal yew]

Agree

[worn stirrup]

for the most part im good but when i got to rookie town it was about 40-30

[tidal yew]

Give slow progression, more survival etc

[indigo beacon]

wish i had money for it.

[indigo beacon]

for me it was fps drops during fights. especially with 4-5 enemies at once. no problems with mutants but when npc's start shooting shit goes down a bit

[worn stirrup]

also that

[wide cypress]

Well, I have enough money, but my bank said nope, think again, come back tomorrow and we'll let you... So now I have 24h to be torn about should I do it rather than follow the impulse

[gusty olive]

how about actual a-life
who needs le fancy graphics and le open world if the mechanics of the game FUCKING SUCK

[indigo beacon]

tbh as long as your PSU can support it and you wont bottleneck cpu just do it. or you could actually just wait a bit till january for new GPU drops and possible price drops on older gen cards.

[coral latch]

can anyone make the lower health mods for all the mutants? A psydog(the one that multiplies) took 18 buckshot bullets to kill. I think all the mutants in this game are a literal tank

[wraith latch]

feel free to let me know if you plan to just shelf your 1060, I might give it a new life instead

[willow hornet]

I won't say anything, but russian hacking forums are something else

[high plaza]

whats the limits of modding so far im assuming you cant add weapons or new animations yet?

[gusty olive]

say something

[tidal yew]

Wtf

[indigo beacon]

lol my gpu (wrong person i think you pinged as well) is RX 580. im not planning to shelf it untill i have actual money for a new rig LOL

[wide cypress]

Last time I waited for price drops on older gens they didn't happen, and I'm itching for stalker 2... PSU should be good enough (650W) and CPU too (R5 5600X)

[ashen oxide]

[steel musk]

Changing certain files, such as mutant hp, weapon stats, etc. So nothing complext atm, not without modding tools

[indigo beacon]

there is already fixes by grog for blood/meat/polter

[high plaza]

gotcha

[wraith latch]

feel free to let me know if you plan to just shelf your 1060, I might give it a new life instead

@indigo beacon sry I pinged the wrong dudinski

[indigo beacon]

7800 XT should work fine with that setup then.

[indigo beacon]

no problem lmao

[willow hornet]

See pin for more info on why I had to look around

[wide cypress]

Nah I'm? Keeping that one, it's going on a wall with a frame, that thing survived hell and back xD

[coral latch]

The dog is giving me mental sickness. 18 buck shots... All within 5 feet

[high plaza]

im on veteran difficulty and it feels like lowly bandits are super soldiers i might tinker with enemy health pools

[indigo beacon]

been there for too long, ik what you talking bout LOL

[steel musk]

Veteran decreases your damage by 25%, so there's that, but yes, always aim for the head, chest shots are almost useless

[high plaza]

yeah i always go for heads now

[indigo beacon]

lmao i should put my GT210 in a frame, that thing made me survive my earliest gaming days with my optiplex back in the day

[ashen oxide]

ah you mean the key

[indigo beacon]

dogs aint as bad. 3 good shots with the AK and its down.

[high plaza]

i might remove the veteran damage decrease as well

[indigo beacon]

yup. these forums are a goldmine on stuff like this, kinda makes sense due to reverse engineering aspect of some stuff like this.

[coral latch]

Not the normal dogs

The one that multiplies

[indigo beacon]

pseudos?

[coral latch]

Magic

Yeh

[tidal yew]

Psydogs

[indigo beacon]

hell naw i havent met them yet i hope i dont meet em.

[steel musk]

Psydogs are a pain. They're tanky and spawn 7-8 clones all the time

[indigo beacon]

and ye right psydogs, pseudos are the non multiplicating ones.

[coral latch]

They are like mini bosses

[indigo beacon]

i hope no one is mental enough to introduce psysuckers to S2...

[wide cypress]

Yeah this 1060 is my first GPU, did some eGPU since I couldn't afford a full desktop, had to Dremel a hole in my laptop to fit the cable in the wifi card slot xD no enclosure of course (5 of the 8 years of this puppy were spent running without enclosure)

[tidal yew]

Please someone do
Fractures too

[indigo beacon]

eat shit? LOL

fractures aint that bad tbh.

psysuckers are just adding two annoyances into a whole bundle.

[wraith latch]

Anyway, I wish GSC released stalker 2 eariler so people like daddy grok and other modders could sit on this steaming pile of shiet and do what needs to be done

[tidal yew]

Gamma fractures with S2 tankiness

[indigo beacon]

tbh yeah. even with them "give us more time to polish it up" still didnt work out as well.

[indigo beacon]

how bout no.

[wraith latch]

exactly, GSC needs to know their perimeter better, they tried it's cool but we all know it's gonna end in gamma 2 in 10 years

[high plaza]

one thing i love are the lightning storms they are amazing

[spark pulsar]

anyone tried this one? any good?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/14

[wide cypress]

I think it's fine, just not what the community evolved to, it's truer to the originals than what people have been able to make with mods, and the community has been kept alive by mods, not the original game

[indigo beacon]

yeah. pretty much.

[gusty olive]

lets be real GSC needed 2 more years of cooking but microsoft demanded a release

[indigo beacon]

yup. i mean hell official server is 1/5th of what this server is.

[steel musk]

I'm personally fine with how it released. It's playable but has issues, so it's more of an Early Access to be fair. I'm satisfied, but I can absolutely understand if people are angry at the state it's in.

[indigo beacon]

but ngl? i dont mind this. this community is amazing. modding the stalker games always gave me something more to do when i already did everything in basic games.

[ashen oxide]

this is already sorta #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting 2.0

[worn stirrup]

im satisfied yes theres some jank and AI not working as intended but it could've be WAY worse

[indigo beacon]

even Anomaly imo could be a full blown official release continuation. it was a mod by the community for the community.

[wraith latch]

2 more years of grok alone will do better than 2 years in the making, not even considering other talented modders. He already hotfixed an issue that was a pain in the assholes (and ez to fix but gsc...)

[wide cypress]

Yup, but they know it, and they acknowledged that, in fact they allow anomaly and gamma to stay standalone without requiring the copy even though most game companies would have said he'll no

[steel musk]

I'd venture into modding myself but not sure about the whole AES key thing, don't want to mess with that

[indigo beacon]

currently we shouldnt think about adding new stuff but focusing on optimising the game SO we can actually start introducing new stuff.

[high plaza]

tbf gsc have patches on the way so patience is key

gsc is prob wokring overtime rn

[gusty olive]

i mean it doesnt have proper a-life. its the one thing the game needed

[indigo beacon]

because they know how much the community forged the path for the games.

[wide cypress]

100%

[indigo beacon]

i forgot to launch msi afterburner and riva. gotta see performance rn after launching

[wide cypress]

All games are forged by their community, no community no game, yes it's truer for stalker, but it's true for all games

[flint flicker]

Testing this atm

[wraith latch]

and where is the multiplayer btw?

[high plaza]

im on 1440p with a 4080 on all epic dlaa and getting a stable 60 so im gooood

[indigo beacon]

i feel stalker community in general is a bit more tighter knit than other modding communities or game communities. at least in my expierience of being in many different ones.

[worn stirrup]

they said it won't be available on release iirc

[wide cypress]

Yeah I would say that's true, but I wouldn't have been shocked if they had said no to standalones either way, disappointed but not shocked

[high plaza]

yeah multiplayer is a future content update

[indigo beacon]

and yet they did. and it made stalker even more popular thanks to the community forging its own path.

[willow hornet]

Anyone wanna debug my FModel, its borked 😮

[fading linden]

yeah we arent getting it ever

[indigo beacon]

^ lol

[fading linden]

not that its important

[indigo beacon]

if its like original stalker games then yup

[fading linden]

rather fix the game than a tacked on tdm

[worn stirrup]

100% agree

[high plaza]

tbh i could not care less about multiplayer in stalker

[indigo beacon]

considering that the world currently is one entity i wonder if the posibility of coop is a thing. idk if there are any areas that are special load zones

[wide cypress]

Nah I think we'll be getting it, now they got a good cash flow they'll be able to secure development for a while

[indigo beacon]

OH GOD

this is what happens when you move a bit too fast LOL

[high plaza]

yeah they had 123 thousand players thats a lot of money we just gave gsc

[worn stirrup]

stalker 2 on ps2

[indigo beacon]

literally LOL

[high plaza]

silent hill

[indigo beacon]

and remember thats just SteamDB...

[fading linden]

they should drop all multi shit and fix the game, and redesign the a-lie 2.0

[azure hull]

Bro playing on GTX 1070

[indigo beacon]

gamepass users are also a MASSIVE part

[high plaza]

very true

[indigo beacon]

close, RX580 lol. expected the mod to improve performance currently no visible boost

[willow hornet]

Guys, this is not stalker2 chat 2.0

[wide cypress]

We'll see what they do, next few weeks are gonna be spent on bug patching anyway not multi

[high plaza]

im so excited for the stalker 2 modding scene though

[native shadow]

i hope one of their patches is an ultrawide patch to fix 21:9 and 32:9

[wide cypress]

This

[worn stirrup]

i feel like UE5 modding is gonna be a bit rough tho

[azure hull]

It's either GSC fixes the game or modders for them

[wide cypress]

Maybe they'll make a nice modding framework, they did say they wanted to spend attention to modders

[balmy cargo]

tfw no AN94
Why play?

[indigo beacon]

op game crashed after gpu OC that aint good LOL

[worn stirrup]

time will tell

[high plaza]

either gsc works hard and fixes the game or they do what bethesda does and let the modding community fix the game for them

[crude coral]

Can I play S2 on a Radeon HD4850 X2

[worn stirrup]

at least gsc tried to change the engine

[wide cypress]

I mean I'm not putting it past some madlad from the modding community to make a framework modders can use like harmony for rimworld

[high plaza]

VERY FAIR

[azure hull]

That's what you get from Eastern European development

[high plaza]

UE5 is so nice but it still has fundamental issues

[azure hull]

Most of their budget went to black coffee and cigs

[worn stirrup]

i don't think people have really caught up with UE5 yet

[wide cypress]

Yeah, I mean x-ray is still a b tho

[ashen oxide]

guys, this is not #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

can you like move the chatting there

this is for modding the game

[dense swift]

[gusty olive]

ong fr fr

[dense swift]

Much like you don't see much pointless chatting in #╙🖇mods-making-discussion
Questions, answers, advice pertaining to modding
Move yer asses to #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[indigo beacon]

i wish i werent so braindead, so i could make mods as well.

[dense swift]

But you can :)

[indigo beacon]

i tried learning coding and this shit is black magic for me.

[honest glade]

hellowww

[dense swift]

Now get out there and apply some effort, this brick shithouse wasn't built in a day

[willow hornet]

Sent you a dm

[ashen oxide]

Cant code anything for Stalker 2 yet, so this is the time

[honest glade]

how do you pack into .pak files tho?

im getting shit errors

[dense swift]

Recheck pins, I think you're supposed to use a .bat file to repack that

[ashen oxide]

you can just ask that here

this is exactly the channel for it

[high plaza]

i need a genius to tutor me lmao

[indigo beacon]

same here. if i were to start learning how to mod.

[willow hornet]

Have you figured out FModel yet, I can't seem to make it look like it is supposed to look

[terse karma]

Stalker 2 is a joke..

[ashen oxide]

I didnt look into that at all yet

[dense swift]

Not the channel for that sentiment

[honest glade]

yeah i dont have the game so the file directory was incomplete :p

[dense swift]

Yeah that'll do it

[gusty olive]

has anyone tried if forward shading works in S2?

[indigo beacon]

oh god the artifacting...

[fiery cove]

you need the aes encryption key

[willow hornet]

I got it, might have the wrong one? Do you have it?

Shall we compare in DM 😛

[fathom beacon]

I presume we dont need to make a mod folder, The .pak mod files go directly into the pak folder with all the deafault pak files ? S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Content\Paks~mods , this ~mods just means this is the folder for mods

[fiery cove]

yes, the game loads all paks and overrides it with the stuff in the ~mods folder that is a normal way also for other games, you can lookup how exactly this works online

[tribal leaf]

Grok i will not do gamma 2
Also grok 2 hours in game 2 mods already done

[fathom beacon]

so in here right

[balmy cargo]

Someone please make AN94 with Zenitco B13, 6L31 60 round mags, and Hexagon 5.45 suppressor, Aimpoint T2 w/ G33 magnifier on Unity mounts

[fiery cove]

yes if you create a folder called ~mods and put your .pak file there it should get loaded

[formal bronze]

Here are some UE modding tutorials:
https://buckminsterfullerene02.github.io/dev-guide/index.html
https://github.com/Dmgvol/UE_Modding
https://github.com/Buckminsterfullerene02/UE-Modding-Tools

[fathom beacon]

ah thats what i was confused about

[crimson laurel]

oh hell yeah modding chat

[fathom beacon]

weasnt sure if i needed to make a folder called mods

do i also need to ad this ~ symbol to the name

[crimson laurel]

yes

i assume that ~ is to be set at the top of the priority list so

[pulsar comet]

Hey! Can anyone redirect me to any tutorials or links that can help me learn modding for S2? I want to reduce the health of enemies, or maybe change the damage values of guns. I've never modded in my life but I'm very eager to learn.

[willow hornet]

You will be glad to know I unfucked myself first time FModel user issue

[willow hornet]

Look in the pins

[crimson laurel]

are you able to open .uasset files?

[pulsar comet]

Ah I just saw @formal bronze comment. That's a good place to start out?

[pulsar comet]

Legend, cheers!

[tacit yoke]

Hey everyone
so what is this ase key everyone saying and where can I get it?
It's a bit confusing
Is that going to unpack game?
Like all resources?3d, anim, item, levels, scripts and textures or ?

[indigo beacon]

check pins @tacit yoke

extracting files info is there

[willow hornet]

Looking around right now, not sure I can

[crimson laurel]

i assume you need the "usmap file"

[willow hornet]

pretty much you do, yes

[crimson laurel]

where the hell do u put the usmap

[tacit yoke]

Oh this channel got pins too, very nice then
But how much can this tool unpack?
I need textures and models mostly

[honest glade]

i didnt get this, drag and drop into the bat file?

[crimson laurel]

yes

[honest glade]

how so

[gusty olive]

anyone here desperate for performance try putting this in ur engine ini
https://pastebin.com/MbKastjt

[crimson laurel]

just drag and drop 😈

[indigo beacon]

no clue. look around for info. it probs can unlock it all considering the AES keys.

[honest glade]

ohh ok i did it

[fiery cove]

i fucked arround with the config files more than i wanted to admit but couldnt figure out what makes AI vanish (they get out of the render distance) when tehy are more than 50m away, changing a few things in the A-Life and spawn settings was still quite nice not getting a full squad spawned on top of my head everytime i leave a tower

[tacit yoke]

I will try myself then and report here, thanks for the help

[honest glade]

[crimson laurel]

oh was recording rn

[pulsar comet]

So I'm completely new to modding. If I follow the pinned comment, will I be able to change health values/weapon damage values or is that just unknown until someone tries it?

[crimson laurel]

does anyone know where the hell u put the usmap in fmodel

[crimson laurel]

you can if you know anything about coding

[willow hornet]

Ah, nvm, I can't access locked files somehow hmmmmmmm, might be the wrong key in the end

[fickle lynx]

How modding been

[crimson laurel]

you can, i can do it myself, just not .uassets yet

[pulsar comet]

Then this weekend I'll start to learn coding 😂

[crimson laurel]

c# will help you then

c sharp

[pulsar comet]

Cheers, I'll look up some beginner tutorials for C sharp!

[fiery cove]

looking forward to seeing you programm in unreal engine using C#

[formal bronze]

Yeah it's probably gonna take quite a bit of time of tweaking and testing around. Maybe it's the SpawnDistanceMin and Max of the groups?

[crimson laurel]

ah ty king, all i found was alpha for stalker 2 but hopefully it works lol

[pulsar comet]

Oh so no C sharp? I'm confused now lol

[crimson laurel]

nvm its c++

🤣🤣

[formal bronze]

Yeah this should be possible as of now

[crimson laurel]

c# is for unity

[fiery cove]

the problem is that this only handles the Alife part but not the scripted and random encounters

[pulsar comet]

I'm really excited to learn it, cause I just want my enemies to die with a few shots, just like I do

So c++ it is

[crimson laurel]

i mean if u understand the method of any programming language u will know how it works with any language, with a bit of understanding the "wording" but same thing

[formal bronze]

Mmm i'll look around for some Encounters cfgs, trynna unpak some stuff

[wispy socket]

are we aware of AP FMJ ammo in the game or the nerfs to the mobs are being based on early game experience?

[fiery cove]

biggest issue for me currently is not even that but that every npc over 50 meters just vanishes

[crimson laurel]

maybe, to say it better, not any but most general purpose languages

[formal bronze]

Download this, check it, specifically the DifficultyPrototypes.cfg file and follow the pinned guide, you might be able to accomplish what you need without coding knowledge

[fiery cove]

cries as full time c dev

[formal bronze]

Hopefully this is modifiable via config files and will not require reverse engineering to fix it... As of now I have only found spawn variables related to the ALife

[celest plover]

please someone is there any tweaks already to turn off random encounters? like you opened stash = blodseeker spawn, you discovered new interest point = blooseeker spawns, it comes to the crazynes, i got to the location then the boys spawn, i killed them, then got the stash that i camed for, bloodseekers spawned, i killed them, then took the natural loot that was there, bloodseeker spawned, now i got dlc stash and script spawned another bloodfreakingseeker, ALL 3 StASHES ARE IN 10 METERS OF EACH OTHER ON military warehouses

[crimson laurel]

am i wrong? maybe am say dumb shit, am not gonna lie i mostly use ai to code even tho i understand how to read them, just cant write them, like a newborn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fiery cove]

afaik it looks more or less like hard coded at least that part

[formal bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[fiery cove]

i would strongly dissagree because every language has different usecases and quirks

[crimson laurel]

i mean that's right but if you know a programming language you already have a basis for how programming is essentially, idk how i can say it lmao

theres a bunch of languages that based on other languages

[gusty olive]

what happens to bodies of mutants and npcs past 50m? they disappear too?

[fiery cove]

yeah but just because rust is based on c its still a whole other language

[fiery cove]

no they have a timer at least what i experienced and saw in the files

[crimson laurel]

yeah

if anyone needs fmodel usmap and aes key let me know i can give them

[formal bronze]

Checking out the GenericLairPrototypes.cfg file from the LairPrototypes folder, there's some stuff... I'm also seeing a lot of "Spawn Weight" values, maybe the game despawns npcs after certain spawn weight threshold has been reached?

[honest glade]

sorry pookie, no need

<3

also

[frail raven]

is there a way to remove depth of field entirely? couldnt find it in engine.ini

[fiery cove]

it uses a mix of that and a distance to the player, from what i figured it is that for distances ever 100000 is a kilometer (this is speculative)

[honest glade]

can someone try this one?

[crimson laurel]

am trying to learn hwo to mod stalker 2 meanwhile my pc is barely running stalker 2 at this stage 🤣

[hollow sinew]

why dont you just load it?

[honest glade]

i dont have the game

yeah im modding the game without having the game

[fiery cove]

I am not entirely sure if the lairs are not for something later in the game, because the config doesnt really seem to fit into anything that i encountered in 8 hours of playing the game

[formal bronze]

roger that

[formal bronze]

Same haha with my 500kb/s downlaod speed the game is taking a week to download

[crimson laurel]

hey guys, moss

[heady geyser]

hi guys is there a way too increase the stanima or decrease the use of stanima

[hollow sinew]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/5a67de8c6b01e6b38d6f421946034bdf1dbb0c6d0c706e2ba4a63dbf18cb7976?nocache=1 whats the mod for? ill try it

[crimson laurel]

yes

[heady geyser]

how?

[hollow sinew]

We need a mods posting for stalker2 hoc tbfh

[crimson laurel]

am certainly somewhere is the config file, theres just too many lines to read atm, but if you look for it you can find it and manually edit yourself

[honest glade]

disables the passive anomaly beep like in gamma

[crimson laurel]

but its actually easy to mod the game

there is like "templates" for guns if u want to add guns and stuff

[willow hornet]

Time to add 2000 guns

[tall marten]

true

[crimson laurel]

we have to wait for performance fix first, then we can start new adding stuff to the game

[tall marten]

and limb damage

and more scarcity

[willow hornet]

And more enemy bleed

And muskets

[tall marten]

muskets?

[willow hornet]

Who woulnd want a musket

[tall marten]

????

[heady geyser]

Musket would be OP as Fuck way too big Firerate

[indigo beacon]

thats what i was saying in #╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion its a must at this state.

wait im on this chat already oop

[crimson laurel]

🤣

juiced up textures, as a 3d artist i love looking at textures

[formal bronze]

Don't have the game can't test it out but this mod should make medkit healing slower and not a "press F1 to fully heal"

[gusty olive]

yeah.. im not gonna play until someone compiles all these mods into one. holy fuck. imagine downloading 20 seperate things to fix the most basic shbit

[crimson laurel]

hes just testing stuff out

[formal bronze]

To be fair this is how early stages of any modding scene start, a lot of testing, going back and forth, etc

[daring sluice]

A lot of it is going to basic for now till modding tools are released

[leaden dagger]

Probably going to be a lot of nice textures that can be ported to anomaly

[willow hornet]

We need to figure out a way to bypass compiling shaders when testing mods

[gusty olive]

some of the new npc models might be nice! (not the chud)

[crimson laurel]

they will certainly fix that, we have to wait ig, it's on their end

[willow hornet]

ported to anomaly 💀

[worn stirrup]

is it possible to port stalker 2 tex to anomaly?

[leaden dagger]

probably not gonna happen until someones writes a full shader cache system which is good luck with that

[leaden dagger]

Sure it is, you just have to recreate the bump map, which is pretty simple

[worn stirrup]

ah ok

[celest plover]

i hard need mod that turns off random ivents guys

[tidal dragon]

was the advanced health system of GAMMA a mod, right?

[crimson laurel]

yes

[gusty olive]

turn off random AI spawning on top of your head NONSTOP

[tidal dragon]

with all the extra medications and kits

also did anyone already make a mod for better flashlight?

[honest glade]

so now I know its not working, can u try this one?

[leaden dagger]

The medkits are part of basic anomaly, same with meds which are a remnant of Mysery

[daring sluice]

@tidal dragon Don't think so, I've been checking nexus every so often and haven't seen any flashlight mods yet

[gusty olive]

we need a mod to bring back dynamic lighting as well. flashlights that dont cast shadows are dogshit. HELLO? 2001 called, they want their graphics back

[pale saffron]

can anybody point me to the mod which lowers health pool on bloodsuckers?

[dusky lintel]

Crafting system and hideout system is all i want from gamma tbh.

[leaden dagger]

Check ModNexus

[daring sluice]

@pale saffron https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/23

[white ivy]

Someone posted it in stalker chat

[tidal dragon]

yeah medkits are basic of the game, but the pills, the body parts health system, that was a mod right?

[white ivy]

Marilyn

[honest glade]

or anyone that can test it (i dont have the game )

[pale saffron]

thank you a lot!

[leaden dagger]

Yeah Body Health System Overhaul

[tidal dragon]

cant wait to have it on stalker 2 too, that was really, really good and immersive

but for now, i drastically need a better torchlight mod, or some global illumination improvements

[rain finch]

Interesting!! Did anyone try it ?

[summer mauve]

Getting caught up here, is it a waste of time to learn Python before other coding languages?

[leaden dagger]

Works pretty well for me, what are your issues with the GI ?

[tidal dragon]

its just too poor, doesnt illuminate a dark room at all, like fairly small room

[ruby matrix]

Mod that has makes the flashlight not seem like a phone light pls

[digital berry]

Can you make a performance improvement mod

[tidal dragon]

exactly, feels like phone flash light

[gusty olive]

the game doesnt have dynamic lights bro
besides the flashlight being complete wank that is

[leaden dagger]

It does

[gusty olive]

no, it has baked in lighting

[daring sluice]

Same, I think the beam needs to be a wider radius

[leaden dagger]

No, virtual shadow maps are all dynamic

[narrow thistle]

Being able to remap flashloght hotkey at all would be an improvement

[gusty olive]

okay so why do flashlights, campfires, anomalies, lighting strikes, grenades, lamps all not cast dyanmic lighht and shadows?

[digital berry]

Its upsetting it doesnt work xD

[supple mulch]

Is it possible to modify or view S2 source code?

[narrow thistle]

So much to do

[past gate]

I have heard they have toned down the A-Life system as well

[tidal dragon]

and also range

[leaden dagger]

They cast dynamic lights, on all quality settings. They only cast shadows on certain shadow quality settings

[willow hornet]

Yes

[grave kite]

gsc is aware of the issue and looking into it

[supple mulch]

How?

[digital berry]

If someone can mod my Infinite money glitch out i would be eternaly greatfull,game is buggier than expected.

[willow hornet]

Following the pinned message

[gusty olive]

i have not seen a single screenshot or gameplay bit that attests to this
campfires never cast any light

[formal bronze]

Insane sprint speed adjusted from default 820 to 600, if anyone can try lemme know the result. My game will finish downloading in a week lol

[leaden dagger]

I mean, that's enough for me

[dapper radish]

Hey guys, the mods folder that grok metions, we have to create it right?

[leaden dagger]

I actually could, I've been making lighting in UE5 for a while now

[digital berry]

i will eagerly await it if you do,thing just is what will GSC fix bythemself

[crimson laurel]

looks amazing other than those radiating dots of light 🤣

[leaden dagger]

Those are just the bright outside because of the exposure

[crimson laurel]

yeah but its "radiating" too much maybe idk who cares anyways

[tidal dragon]

feels like a phone torchlight

[leaden dagger]

But that's without my headlamp, that's only the GI

[willow hornet]

I think he means 'too much bloom'

[crimson laurel]

yeah, bloom

missed the word

[leaden dagger]

Yeah bloom needs a touch up

[honest glade]

yo anyone wanna test a mod for me?

[tidal dragon]

then i spelled it wrong, i mean it feels the torch needs a much higher "diffusion" if u get what i mean

[leaden dagger]

You want the torch to bounce more light?

[tidal dragon]

https://i.imgur.com/q4abPJg.jpeg look, torch is on and i cant enlight at 10 meters

isnt even 10 meters, prob 5-6

[willow hornet]

He want to increase the lumen of the torch

[grand verge]

seems like the angle of the torch is also downward angle to much a little more level would be cool

[leaden dagger]

Ah yeah if we can modify the components of an actor that's an easy fix to change the attenuation radius

[tidal dragon]

also what version of UE 5 we have here? definitely not 5.5 cus that just released, having MegaLights here would have made a difference

[gusty olive]

where is the light?

looks like something from a 2000 game

[tidal dragon]

if u come up with a mod im happy to test it

[honest glade]

its either 5.3 or 5.4

maybe

[tidal dragon]

that is kinda what the feeling has to be imo, true stalker experience

[indigo beacon]

yeah its aiming at the ground. if you could use the torch like normal (where you look thats where the light goes) would be way better instead of this downwards facing torch

[honest glade]

are u in-game rn?

[daring sluice]

If you mean the game, I'm pretty sure the devs stated it was UE 5.1

Could be wrong

[leaden dagger]

It's not downward, it's facing your camera, it looks downward because the low radius only hits the ground in front of you and not far away

[tidal dragon]

then that explains why the game has cpu bottlenecks

[gusty olive]

no, the original stalker games had campfires that cast light and shadows, 15 years ago.

[indigo beacon]

ah. still yikes tbh.

[daring sluice]

5.1 is just before Nanite -_- haha

[grand verge]

also just wanted to throw out there those of you working on stuff for us playing the game we greatly appreciate you and your hard work , greatly appreciated and loved and needed ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[wooden oar]

Yeah it's 5.1

[formal bronze]

To see the exact UE5 I think you can go to the Details tab of the .exe file

[willow hornet]

Right now we have top left, people probably want toward the bottom right

[sweet moss]

So what performance mods should I use?

[daring sluice]

@willow hornet 2 and 12 look great to me

[willow hornet]

True, 2 looks good

[supple mulch]

What’s the UES key?

[leaden dagger]

But they do:

[crimson laurel]

u mean just after?

[grand verge]

speak for urselves i want the x1 🤣

[crimson laurel]

beautiful

[crimson laurel]

https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=100672

[wicked marlin]

Only some do. Watch this video https://youtu.be/cHQ3jAeza60?si=_FdhOq_JC7lISL1_

[pulsar comet]

If anyone makes a mod where I can change the health of enemies, I'll literally pay you for it 😂I just watched 30 min of c++ tutorials and I am very much done

[indigo beacon]

2 and 12 like the other person said.

[supple mulch]

I’ve got a little bit of experience with c++ in UE

[rain finch]

Anyone succeeded an edit of the carry weight ? Tried everything related to it in CFG and it doesn’t work. I think it’s Blueprint controlled 😦

[tidal dragon]

these are work in progress mods?

[leaden dagger]

Isn't there already a mod of it on Nexus?

[crimson laurel]

its with cheat engine

[supple mulch]

It wouldn’t make much sense for it to be bp controlled I think

[willow hornet]

No, that's real life

[rain finch]

It’s a cheat engine trainer

[leaden dagger]

Ugh

[tidal dragon]

[magic torrent]

grok did

[indigo beacon]

im wondering, as a modder is it possible to do changes in the games blueprints? or is it impossible.

[pulsar comet]

Yeah but I mean for humans too

[magic torrent]

just check the files, prob in there

[leaden dagger]

Impossible, you'd need the project source files to do so

[indigo beacon]

so i guess waiting for official modding tools would be the only option.

[supple mulch]

Not without an SDK i think

[leaden dagger]

Pretty much, if they even expose those settings

[willow hornet]

Can you adjust the weight of every single item instead?

[gusty olive]

okay but where is the campfire light?

[supple mulch]

You can’t unpack uasset bp’s iirc

[pulsar comet]

Didn't gsc say they'd be very open to modding? I have no clue how it works so will they make it more moddable over time or?

[open swift]

They need to release a proper SDK

[indigo beacon]

definetely they going to release an SDK considering their stance on modding

[pulsar comet]

Ah okay. Is that something that usually takes a long time? Or is it just wait and see

[crimson laurel]

u can only change it if they exposed the bps, but ion know nun of that yet

[leaden dagger]

Dunno, I'll check once I find one in my game

[willow hornet]

Could be 1 month, could be a year, nobody knows

[pulsar comet]

Gotcha

[crimson laurel]

we first have to wait for the game to get fixed, performance wise

because mods will likely get broken with hotfixes

[willow hornet]

Let's just say there will be sexy naked bloodsuckers before they release it

[indigo beacon]

^

[pulsar comet]

Well thanks to all you modders. Makes the game a lot more fun to not have to shoot an enemy 6x in the chest with 5.45 so I'd love a damage value mod or something like that

[indigo beacon]

freedomers will be happy

[crimson laurel]

[tidal dragon]

also one more question, the fact u can aim a t someone and see his rank and faction was gamma mod too?

[willow hornet]

Download Grok's mod, that's a good start

[honest glade]

can u test a mod for me sir?

[pulsar comet]

So like without the sdk, what can or can't you do? Because there's still mods being released. Does the sdk just open up every single file or something?

[rain finch]

lol. Massive pain

[crimson laurel]

i mean you can certainly go through and search for the config, atm am studying the whole thing

[pulsar comet]

Not near my pc atm my friend

[willow hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-do-it-for-you-gif-27412761

[high plaza]

i can do mod testings

[honest glade]

imma send you a DM on how to

[open swift]

There are limited things you can do with UE modding without an SDK. Usually can edit some tables, do texture swaps, and a few other things. You can look at ITR to get an idea of some of the stuff that is possible without SDK. then again that was on ue4 iirc so not sure how different ue5 is

[rain finch]

Which difficulty did you take ? It’s mostly veteran difficulty I think

[pulsar comet]

Veteran. Do you recommend switching to stalker?

[willow hornet]

^ Difficulty makes you do less damage

[rain finch]

Yes. Cause veteran difficulty puts guns damage to x0.75

[crimson laurel]

i mean its kinda dumb that difficulties increase hp pool, it should increase their IQ and quadruple hs you in a blink of a second 🤣🤣🤣

[pulsar comet]

That is always the worst system imo. Just make me have less health AND the enemy less health at higher difficulties...

[honest glade]

i might have a fix for that

[daring sluice]

Literally this lol

[autumn swan]

wtf this is awful

[pulsar comet]

Jesus that's so stupid. Will do it immediately when I get home...

[fierce storm]

and have less money...

[terse quartz]

Anyone figured out a way to use Reshade on the GamePass version? Graphics are stunning but that yellow tint is getting to me xD

[open swift]

Iirc this was true of the original games as well

[pulsar comet]

So since you know about that, is there any chance you can, you know, change that :))

[willow hornet]

Even at Stalker it took me 4 full mag of AK to down a bloodsucker ahahaha, get Grok's mod

[terse quartz]

I will make trade of knowledge 😉

To get a higher fov and weapon fov:

Goto:
C:\Users(USERNAME)\AppData\Local\Stalker2\Saved(A LOOONG LIST OF NUMBERS AND LETTERS)\GameSettings

Open: AppliedSettings.cfg

Change this:
FieldOfView = 110.0
to
FieldOfView = 120.0
(Or whatever you like)

Make the "AppliedSettings.cfg" read only before launching the game.

[pulsar comet]

I have to spend 2 mags killing all the dogs just to get enough money to buy 1 mag from it lol. Makes no sense

[tidal dragon]

Grok what is ur next mod u are currently working? the weight?

[nimble river]

Anyone know if there is a difficulty completion achievement? I wanna swap to stalker from veteran cause fuck that 0.75x bs

[crimson laurel]

its not hard, just search through and edit numbers and then pack the pak, and u good

[fierce storm]

shotgun 1/2-shots a dog btw depends on your aim. Try to get it asap
And you will have 100500 ammo later on

[high plaza]

can you chnage the vet difficulty damage reduction?

[gray sail]

#📢announcements message

I think like a lower cost based on difficulty would work
Easy - 30%
Stalker - 20%
Veteran - 10% or 15%
Maybe even a slider to let you choose your own discount would work

[pulsar comet]

I have never ever modded anything in my life haha so might be more challenging for me. Don't even know where to start looking

[honest glade]

what you guys think? for Veteran difficulty

[leaden dagger]

So yeah campfires do have lights and shadows

[tidal dragon]

isnt this too dark still

[crimson laurel]

well on pinned it shows how you can do it, as @honest glade just screenshotted u just need to change numbers

[tidal dragon]

i mean a campfire, should have plenty ot enlightning power

[crimson laurel]

u want a fireball?

[open swift]

Campfires aren't really that bright irl

[gusty olive]

huh. what settings? ultra?

[leaden dagger]

That's just because the tonemapper hasn't fully kicked in for the night

[leaden dagger]

Medium

[tidal dragon]

yeah but look at the boxxes, they are very, very dark

[open swift]

Tbh it looks realistic to me

[crimson laurel]

whats the path for the difficulties tho? can u tell me?

[nimble river]

Im playing on epic with hdr and the lighting is pretty dark. Also on an oled so that may also be causing it to be even darker lol but it looks cool

[willow hornet]

Looks legit to me

[gusty olive]

that pic i posted was also done at medium. and it looks like there is absolutely 0 light coming from the fire

[gusty olive]

thius looks good actually

[willow hornet]

Yeah, it's real life

[tacit tendon]

I think the darkness is cool... if flashlights were better or nvgs existed

[honest glade]

Stalker2\Content\GameLite\GameData\ I think

[oak cliff]

Is there a mod to get rid of the horrendous camera movement while moving?

[leaden dagger]

During the day with the sunlight exposure the low light of campfires doesn't really show.
Blame proper light exposure

[formal bronze]

I like it. Specially the Mutant AttackCooldown, with some testing and tweaking it might make fights more brutal in Veteran

[crimson laurel]

ok but what .pak or .utoc

[nimble river]

I gotta say for the scale this game looks incredible the only issue I have is the foliage popping too much

[honest glade]

idk I already have it unpacked

i can send you

[crimson laurel]

nah no worries

[gusty olive]

this was atmospheric as hell. this is how it should be

[leaden dagger]

And yeah most lights are shadow casting:

[honest glade]

just did

[formal bronze]

It's in that folder, the file being DifficultyPrototypes.cfg

[tidal dragon]

dont want to be wrong but this was much more powerful than stalker 2 is now, enlightning i mean

[nimble river]

Brother what’s the difference besides it looking real now?

[rain finch]

Yes I’ll try

[leaden dagger]

But during the day a campfire doesn't really shine any light. That's how exposure works

[open swift]

Thank you

[tiny void]

I don't get people complaining about the tankyness of the bloodsucker. It's finaly a challenge like they should be. The bloodsucker is zones apex predator, with mutations that make it that tanky, not like other humanoid mutants.

[gusty olive]

its more like dawn or dusk in that screenshot, not full daylight.

[leaden dagger]

The screenshot you posted is a game without a proper tonemapper and exposure

[tiny void]

I think pseudogiant, bloodsucker and chimera should be absolute tanks

[open swift]

Campfires really don't throw that much light, the OG games exaggerated the effect to show off their fancy dynamic lighting tech

[fierce storm]

but why have so many of them at starting locations

[kind notch]

Wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't spawn at every other location you go to

[tiny void]

And an encounter with either of 3 should never be easy

[willow hornet]

Oh no, all the guns are plugged in via blueprints

[honest glade]

need some more input on this, to know if you guys think its hard or not

[kind notch]

I ran into like 10 of them in the starting area alone

[nimble river]

Because they’re everywhere and it’s immersion breaking as hell running in a circle and fighting them over and over again

[spice stirrup]

Someone complaining about the game because of campfire lighting, despite clearly never having seen a campfire in the day themselves, perfectly encapsulates the really unhinged attitude to this game rn

[grand verge]

there should be any in starting zone then imo if they are 'end game' monsters

[opaque aspen]

is there any mod to limite the times you can save in a specific time?

[tidal yew]

their mechanics suck tho, invisible and hit you without any tell

[grand verge]

apart from maybe an introduction with help of npc stalkers maybe

[tidal yew]

like, yes they are like in the old games

that was 13 years ago

[leaden dagger]

I'm pretty happy with the current lighting calibration and I'm someone who does vidya lighting for a living

[daring sluice]

Hey @crimson laurel do you have usmap?

[nimble river]

I think the lighting is dope

[jolly fjord]

I hope we find a quick way to boost veteran difficulty damage to 1.0x soon, that is absolute BS.
Can you imagine with base HP high armor bloodsuckers and you're already doing 0.75x?

[tidal dragon]

also tf is wrong with enemies they are full of granades lol, feels like call of duty sometimes

[crimson laurel]

yes

[nimble river]

Mfs wanna boost the gamma up in game like its minecraft so they can see in caves

[static frost]

they have an audio tell when they're charging and you can see/track them anyway..?

[open swift]

Right besides, they're probably just using UE5's global lighting solution no?

[grand verge]

yeah they literally spam nades every 2 secs for me kinda dumb

[wicked marlin]

The main thing I’m not impressed with is reflections. They seem very low quality even when on epic settings

[gusty olive]

yeah bro ive never seen a campfire in my life. are you dumb? the screenshot i posted was not at full daylight.
THIS is a screenshot at full daylight

[tidal yew]

you mean with everything being a blurry fuzzy mess?

[hexed eagle]

Random question, does anyone know if A-Life is actually implemented into the game? So far the game has felt like NPCs just spawn on a small radius around you when wandering the zone

[tiny void]

I'm 10 hours in i only bumped into 2

[tidal yew]

and with a bunch of effects you cannot turn off

[formal bronze]

Upload the mod and it might get people to test it

[tidal dragon]

its A life 2.0 and its currently totally broken

[kind notch]

14 hours and I've killed 11

[grim scarab]

For the 3 mod files that Grok Made, do i put these in the paks folder or do i make a folder in there called Mods and put them there?

[leaden dagger]

Yeah it's the lumen pipeline, albeit an old version that came with 5.1 so a lot of issues still aren't fixed

[nimble river]

This explains your opinion on the matter. Not trying to be an ass by saying that lol

[marble isle]

would be a fucking dream

[spice stirrup]

Man's still popping a nerve over campfires lmfao

[kind notch]

8-9 of them within the first 5 hours

[tiny void]

Daaaaamn

[fierce storm]

nade costs less then 30 bullets lol

[gusty olive]

now use the flashlight.

[glad slate]

Yooo modders, is there any advice on getting started modding stalker 2?

WAIT

[formal bronze]

Check out Pins

[glad slate]

nvm i found it

[marble isle]

Do you think that being in UE5 will somehow change the moddability of the game in worse or better?

[glad slate]

yeah i saw that after i hit send

thanks

[willow hornet]

They find the time to update to Unreal 5.4 and it doesnt break everything

[nimble river]

@leaden dagger how do you feel about the flashlight? Seems dim to me but I’m assuming it’s a choice

[tidal yew]

i think its kinda weird the game doesnt have raytracing

[hexed eagle]

I'm a dev with no game dev experience but surely they must have tested it worked before deploying to prod right?
Correct me if im wrong

[kind notch]

The flashlight actually ruins the game's graphics because of no shadows lol

[leaden dagger]

Depends on the tech. If they use nanite, we can't really inject a non-nanite mesh properly

[jolly fjord]

From what they claimed, it "works" but not as "intended" so they "buffed" the "Random Encounter AI" to compensate while they "figure it out"

[tidal dragon]

yeah, tested i guess, but its currently broken, and they are working on it

[leaden dagger]

Depends on the exposure interior/time of day where you're at. In the interiors it's really bright already same in caves

[tidal yew]

from what i know nanite is still very inefficient

[crimson laurel]

xbox npcs have .9 hp compared to 1 on pc 🤣

[hexed eagle]

oof, hopefully thats true! Thanks guys

[nimble river]

It’s definitely usable just curious on your opinion in terms of realism since you’ve got that dev experience 🙂

[leaden dagger]

It works pretty darn good if you work around the limitations and model your objects properly

[silver cloud]

what's weird is even the NPC stalkers flashlights cast shadows but the player's doesn't - there's something blueprint related (BP_L_flashlight_01) that has some variables for cone angle, intensity, falloff and "caststaticshadows = false" in a .json that seems promising. Followed a palword tutorial for packing it in UE but haven't had any luck getting any changes reflected in game. Either it's the wrong file or I'm doing something wrong with the cooking in UE

[willow hornet]

DevTest : Something is weird with Alife 2.0, doesnt seem to work proper
Producer : Does it brick the game?
DevTest : Well no bu.....
Producer : Ship it.

[nimble river]

Real

[jolly fjord]

The classic "Is it a breaking change? No? Push to prod, then slap it as a bug in backlog"

[spice stirrup]

No way Xbox version comes pre installed with bullet sponge remover mod

[leaden dagger]

It's clearly tuned more towards a cinematic/gameplay experience more-so than a real flashlight, so I'm fine with it

[tidal yew]

i mean yes, but the traditional method can still net better gains, given im half talking out of my ass here and just going from my massive youtube brain

[hexed eagle]

Literally had this exact same issue at work

Good to see all industries suffer the same lmao

[marble isle]

What about all the modding not concerning the nanites? Like mods about behavior of NPCs, NPCs spawning and so on?

[willow hornet]

Humans be humaning

[jolly fjord]

I mean, software dev is pretty universal with the "We need to ship" pressure versus "QA". You could in theory test a game like Stalker 2 for 2 years and still likely find issues

[leaden dagger]

Right but you'd never have the same quality with traditionnal LOD chain. The amount of geometry you can chuck at Nanite is insane

[viral spear]

Hey, just downloaded the mod for less tanky bloodsuckers, where should I drop the files?

[nimble river]

I make medical implants for a living and our corpo overlords treat small issues in my field the same lmfao

[open swift]

Modding anything code related is going to require an SDK to get access to the source code

[wicked marlin]

Yeah flashlight nor muzzle flash cast shadows. Same with fire barrels don’t cast npc shadows

[gusty olive]

thats what im saying

[tidal yew]

i just cant wait for epic to fix the stutters from ue5

maybe with UE6

idk

[leaden dagger]

Depends on what's been done in code vs blueprint

[tidal yew]

true

[willow hornet]

Any moderator around?

[marble isle]

and that supposedly should come with the mod kit they should release in future?

[hexed eagle]

IG we usually dont ship with many bugs cause testing is more straight forward, I cant even imagine testing a game with so many moving parts that you cant mock

[open swift]

Hopefully yeah

[marble isle]

Clear, thanks

[nimble river]

Anyone know if I should still install groks damage modifier mod if I swap my game to stalker difficulty? Don’t wanna make them too weak

[tidal yew]

honestly im quite impressed that the game has mostly minor bugs

[willow hornet]

Particularly in games that are so big, sometimes it becomes untestable, so you make automated tools to batch test stuff, but there is limitation to specific repro cases. But this is a discussion for another channel.

[formal bronze]

A lot of the data that describes the game behaviour is in cfg scripts

[nimble river]

I personally don’t mind shooting an npc and seeing them float away into the atmosphere shit is hilarious

[tidal yew]

this has been made love you can tell, its been through a war and a pandemic

[fierce storm]

sometimes you can softlock story line by talking to npc, still same good old 2004 scripting approach

[jolly fjord]

It is what it is. Even with like, management software I work with, there's usually quite a few bugs we ship with because they don't affect utility of the application, and in a way it does show the client we're always "making it better"

[willow hornet]

Last line of the pinned message

[crimson laurel]

i mean as long as you having fun playing, better than getting 10fps after dying and loading the save 🤣

[willow hornet]

Okay, that's a good one

[tidal dragon]

what is the lowest dura for weapons to be repaired?

[stray granite]

This game looks and feels like far cry lol

[leaden dagger]

While we're at it, Anomalies also cast dynamic lighting

[honest glade]

okidoki

[silver cloud]

The burners don't cast shadows

[formal bronze]

If anyone could test this slower healing items I would appreciate it. This should fix "press F1 to instantly heal"

[willow hornet]

There is no F1 to instantly heal

Always an animation

[high plaza]

will test now

[formal bronze]

I meant the medkits, it heals way too fast from what I've seen

[tall marten]

but the healing is very very fast

[tidal yew]

at the first scanner thing, i didnt know i had to not stand near it and instantly died and while i died my character kept saying "yep still alive"

[pulsar comet]

Would it be able to mod the hot keys so they're f1/f4 again 😂this new system is just horrendous

[leaden dagger]

The point was that they cast light. That was the initial discussion

[tidal yew]

is this ue 5.5?

[molten cargo]

Is this also possible for energy drinks to turn them into a stamina regen buff instead?

[leaden dagger]

A very modified 5.1

[tidal dragon]

@leaden dagger maybe you know but did you notice that when you are in a building with the door open facing outside, the light outside is way more intense?

[honest glade]

this tweaks the Veteran difficulty and restores the weapon damage multiplier to 1.0x

[tidal yew]

guy should be dead from all the sugar

[tidal yew]

custom stuff good ig

[molten cargo]

my stalker has a trail of soda cans behind him

[formal bronze]

Yeah this seems totally possible, I'll try to do modify it now

[pulsar comet]

Really? I'll be home in a bit and I can try it out, dunno how it's easy to test the difference though

[tight tulip]

Have people already started modding this game 😂

[silver cloud]

Fair enough, but that's a fairly low bar that I'd expect a game from the 90s to clear. It does seem like a lot of lights do cast shadows though, I just find the flashlight to be a puzzling omission

[high plaza]

ye if anyone needs a tester i have no life and will test

[honest glade]

try shooting anything pretty much

[willow hornet]

Oh, I might be able to plug in new grenades, seems much easier than guns, hmmmmmm dynamite stick anyone?

[pulsar comet]

Yeah but that seems highly inconsistent at times too haha

[azure hull]

and I put this on the mod folder in Stalker2\Content\Paks? sry im new

[molten cargo]

Might be alot of trouble. I just think a 5 minute stamina regen buff is more immersive than drinking 20 energy drinks in a row

[daring sluice]

@willow hornet I was also just looking at grenades lol

[leaden dagger]

Yeah there's local exposure, so when you're inside, the exposure is lower and the bright outside is the sun. It's a normal camera thing

[willow hornet]

The fact there is only two...

[pulsar comet]

Any idea if the grenade spam is fixable without the sdk?

[daring sluice]

Yeah, although interesting that F1 is stronger it seems, I don't think it displays stats of the nades in-game

[formal bronze]

How's the energy drink called in-game? Just "energy drink"? Don't have the game yet lol

[daring sluice]

unless im tripping

[willow hornet]

Can most likely change AI behavior

[high plaza]

@formal bronze i clicked something by acciudent by b anyways its still fast healing

[fierce storm]

have you noticed that all animations are going within same context? you can start animation A and in the end start animation B instead and effect of animation B will be finished almost instantly

[leaden dagger]

A large shadow casting that's always moving from the player could quite drastically impact performances. I kind of understand why they did it. Puzzled why it's not just an option in the graphics tho

[pulsar comet]

Which means you do or don't need sdk?

[molten cargo]

Non-Stop Energy Drink or something

[formal bronze]

Roger 👍 Will keep modifying

[tidal yew]

stalkers be chuckin nades like kobe

[honest glade]

yes

~mods

[willow hornet]

You can also use 4 bandage from your inventory and stack them effect for 1 animation count

[azure hull]

tysm

[high plaza]

but fr the healing in this game at least for medkits is almsot instant

[tidal yew]

with the thingy? i thought just mods

[molten cargo]

Has there been anything about adding Stalker 2 to Mod Organizer 2? We cant go back to JSGME 😭

[pulsar comet]

Would it be able to mod the hot keys so they're f1/f4 again 😂this new system is just horrendous

Anyone know? Or is it just bad luck for us pc users

[fierce storm]

when you are getting 2-shot at hard difficulty this is the only solution

[formal bronze]

I think it needs the thingy

[steel musk]

~mods

You need the tilde

[wicked marlin]

Anyone tried this yet https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/35

[tidal yew]

i see

[pulsar comet]

I love that thingy is the professional name for it

[high plaza]

true

[willow hornet]

Like people mentionned earlier, this could fuck up a lot of things

[high plaza]

also on vet diff im getting killed more by bullshit than actual gameplay

[fierce storm]

but the current system is good too imo, you don't have any emergency buttons except healthpack

[wicked marlin]

I imagine so that’s why I’m wondering if anyone’s tried it

[pulsar comet]

Do you get less money from veteran too? Cause I'm thinking of just going to stalker mode then cause you get barely any money on veteran

[honest glade]

i upped the mutant and npc damage so..

you'll have a ride

[pulsar comet]

And is the cost of products also affected by difficulty?

[honest glade]

you can change yes

I didnt yet

[leaden dagger]

The rang of flashlights in interiors feels pretty okay to me

[high plaza]

apparently the night and day cycle is tied to important things in game like npc activity and a lot more

[willow hornet]

From what someone said, you get more money later in the game

[wicked marlin]

I guess stalkers can only afford shitty halogen flashlights in 2024

[noble moss]

chat is there a keybinds.ini or something similar ?

[white ivy]

Wouldn't say low amount of money early on (Veteran difficulty) https://i.imgur.com/UHEDkis.jpeg

[pulsar comet]

Yeah, if I can increase my damage output I'll stay in veteran. Cause I use 3 mags in a firefight just to get enough money to buy 1 haha

[steel musk]

You do earn less money from tasks in Veteran, also sells for less too, but not sure

[willow hornet]

If you are wearing a 1922 coal miner hat

[leaden dagger]

It would be cool to be able to upgrade the suit's flashlight, and there's multiple upgrade points that are still locked on suits, so that might be a possibility

[pulsar comet]

After a fight I need to repair my kit, weapon, need new ammo. And I get like 600 for a sidequest if I'm lucky, while 1 mag is like 300 haha

[steel musk]

Also a +1 to making the Energy Drink buff last longer than 15-20 seconds

[kind notch]

Not sure if you got a response to this but this didn't work for me

[fierce storm]

You get like 0.8 of the reward

[willow hornet]

Avoiding fights and running away from random encounters is an option

[honest glade]

so Im trynna disable the passive anomaly beep, and so far changed the radius, put all the anomalies on the exclusion, and still not working

any help appreciated

[pulsar comet]

But what's the fun in that 🙂

[leaden dagger]

The fat fuck still lives huh

[steel musk]

Sometimes hard to do when they spawn next to you then spawn another group in the direction you're running to

[pulsar comet]

Ayyy don't spoil!

[grave kite]

bandaid fix would be to replace the sound file with a blank one.

[kind notch]

Yeah I was thinking that

[leaden dagger]

It's in game lore, calm down

[pulsar comet]

I'm not serious. Just didn't wanna know the asshole was still in this game

[willow hornet]

Change the sound file path to another sound from something else

[pulsar comet]

Can't wait to sell 3 artifacts for 250 roubles to him

[leaden dagger]

I don't actually know if he his, but he gets a mension here

[honest glade]

tried that

[fierce storm]

i swear there was a mod at nexusmods but now it's gone

[steel musk]

Sidorovich does get mentioned in multiple PDAs from the Lesser Zone

[honest glade]

that would beep another sound

[steel musk]

So I assume he is alive and swindl- I mean, trading

[honest glade]

yeah I hid it

[worldly root]

any news on stalker 2 gamma? obviously not talking about within like next week but in terms of years?

[honest glade]

im updating

[willow hornet]

Remove the sound then?

[pulsar comet]

Next week!

[worldly root]

srs?

[pulsar comet]

No

[steel musk]

Nowhere near enough mods to even consider doing a compilation like GAMMA, so 2077

[worldly root]

😦

[mellow python]

Sidorovich is a load-bearing element of the zone. If he ever moves his fat ass out of that chair the zone implodes. 😛 (this is not a spoiler, is joke)

[full valley]

anyone had any issues with overlapping textures in this game? specifically in the sphere?

[daring sluice]

Awaiting official SDK so modders can cook

[steel musk]

Mod to replace Sidorovich with a giant Meatchunk artifact instead

[willow hornet]

Look at the map, that's when he fell off his chair, das why the zone looks like that

[steel musk]

Sometimes yes, the textures fight with each other

[honest glade]

here if anyone wanna try

[kind notch]

Tryingn ow

I need that beeping gone

[pure tendon]

I heard motion blur only owrks in cutscenes instead of gameplay anyone know how to activate it via config?

[full valley]

awesome thought i was suffering from zone madness

[steel musk]

Also, can anyone confirm that Skif's Pistol does indeed do more damage than the UDP pistol, which is chambered in .45 ?

[pulsar comet]

Anyone else get huge mouse lag in the main village?

[kind notch]

Still beeping sadly

[honest glade]

im gonna kms

[pulsar comet]

Don't do that

[fallen merlin]

5-10 years and im not exaggerating

[willow hornet]

Lemme take a looksies

[formal bronze]

Could anyone test this out?

• Slower healing of medkits
• Energetic Drinks should last 300 seconds instead of 40-45

[void crypt]

i would kill for 5th quick-slot mod so i can put stamina regen there

[fallen merlin]

Xray engine was open sourced and still took years and years till we got call of chernobyl, which led to anomaly, which led to Gamma

[kind notch]

Trying now

[pulsar comet]

Anyone tried those performance fixes mods on nexus? Real or just placebo?

[steel musk]

Because other than the shotgun, Skif's Pistol is the most powerful weapon I own, and it's weird how 9x18 trumps the Viper 5 and the AKs

[pale cobalt]

Too many crashes… the game is unplayable

[pulsar comet]

Haven't had a single crash in 4 hours. Sucks man...

[dense hollow]

I played 12 hours without any crashes

[somber valve]

I shit you not, lemme mount a scope on it and I am fine with using it for the whole game. It SLAPS lol

[mighty compass]

@pulsar comet dont jinx urself i played 4-5h no crash last night then had 5 crash back to back

[pulsar comet]

9x18 is more powerful than 50 cal. Any gun nerd knows that

[void crypt]

hard to say, im testing now another one - https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/2?tab=posts version 2 for less stutters and i cant comply, im with fg 97 fps lock in middle of town with rtx 4060 and ryzen 5 7500f 32gb ram on middle preset and balanced dlss 1080p

[serene summit]

i've only ever had crashes with FSR3 Frame Gen enabled tbh

[steel musk]

3 seconds of realtime = 1 minute ingame, and it appears like the energy drink lasts about 15 seconds, so could be that whatever number you place there needs to be divided by 3 to get the correct duration in seconds, assuming the default is 45

[pulsar comet]

Fsr3 Frame gen makes my game actually playable. Without it the fps is just too low

[somber valve]

Running smooth with everyting on epic, FSR native AA and fsr3 frame gen on for 20h, no crashes, no issues, smooth 80fps

[steel musk]

I'll give it test anyways

[daring sluice]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/17

I think it definitely works, I'm playing with 14900k and 4080 Super with Frame Gen on and at the very least it's reduced input delay

[tidal yew]

9x18m

[formal bronze]

ah, nice detail, thanks

[pulsar comet]

Interesting. Will try it out later

[ornate lake]

obv 9x18 = 162

[tidal yew]

quick maths

[high plaza]

once we all test mods and get them working the discord should add a forum thread showcase thingy

[flint flicker]

I got extended day night cycle working, didn't have any issues.

[steel musk]

Is there any setting that governs how often you can get the repeatable missions? Because if you extend the day cycle, it might increase their cooldown timer as well

[lunar fossil]

it that a mod?

[grave kite]

id say sleep but you cant set how long you sleep for

[terse quartz]

Just putting it out there,
I updated my DLSS version to 3.8.10 and it fixed the hud flickering when using FSR Frame Gen. (Using a RTX 2080)
I got nvidia reflex enabled and are playing at 3440x1440 at medium high settings. Getting around 80 to 110 fps without any input delay,
For anyone having issues with input delay when using FSR FrameGen, try to update the DLSS version 🙂

[flint flicker]

Will be soon, doing a final test run with the variants, will be putting on nexus after that.

[lunar fossil]

you, dear sir, are a literal god, thank you!

[willow hornet]

Stats for this weapon are hidden somewhere nebulous

[pulsar comet]

Huh interesting. Got a rtx 2080ti so I'll try it out. Got huge input delay in the city

[high plaza]

imagine the mods arent plug and play yet and you need a new save file

[terse quartz]

city for me now drops around the 60 to 80 mark. But way less input delay compared to standard dlss version

[pulsar comet]

But fsr is amd right? So how does updating dlss impact it?

[steel musk]

It lasted around 50 seconds for me, although that was me counting, no timer.

[terse quartz]

Not sure why but it seems like the newer version of dlss plays nicer with FSR FG

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/36

[pulsar comet]

Fair enough! Cheers mate will try it out

[formal bronze]

The medkit or the energy drink?

[steel musk]

The energy drink

[formal bronze]

k thanks, will do some more modifying

[steel musk]

Going to compare the medkit speed now, since I dont remember what vanilla was

[grave kite]

can also use dlss swap to swap between dlss files as well

[steel musk]

It was still pretty fast though

[kind notch]

The medkit speed seemed roughly the same

If not the same

[pulsar comet]

Yeah thought that too. Is that nexus mod just the same thing done differently then?

[high plaza]

vet diff mod no work lowly bandit is still capt america :(

[grave kite]

pretty much the same but allows you to swap back and forth with ease and auto detects your games.

[honest glade]

at this point I think its either the packer that is fucking up or the path of the folder

[high plaza]

well this is new to everyone so it could be anything

[lyric moth]

Well atleast they dont tank 3 Headshots like Bloodsuckers

[high plaza]

oh idk i hit a bandit twice in the head and he looked at me like i offended his bloodline

[willow hornet]

The UDP .45 pistol has less damage than the PM 9mm pistol @steel musk

[formal bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1308895136364625980/image0.gif

[azure hull]

Hitting them with bolts is funnier

[high plaza]

i never thought of that lmao

[fickle lynx]

How is fhe modding chat

[lyric moth]

Tbh Headshots are solid 1 taps i dont know if you even play Vet tbh.

Bloodsuckers on the other hand are FUCKING beefy

[fickle lynx]

Is this game looking mallable

[crimson laurel]

more accurate and more damage from far tho 😈

[high plaza]

well he had a rad suit on so maybe it was that

[lyric moth]

[willow hornet]

Still, you'd expect it to do at least the same damage

[high plaza]

LMAO

[lyric moth]

DETAILS MAN THEY ARE IMPROTAND

[steel musk]

The ammo price difference is ridiculous though. 9x18 is 7 per bullet, 45 is 23 or so

[high plaza]

omg ammo is SO EXPENSIVE

[lyric moth]

No shit that the Armor makes difference DUH, Ski mask gonna block shit unlike real armor

[crimson laurel]

time to fix it 😈

[high plaza]

nah he shouldnt be wearing armor im better

[oak adder]

are the mods save safe?

[steel musk]

Haven't had any issue

[honest glade]

i mean they arent working yet so