#╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting
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Watched/helped a guy survive a random firefight, only to see him walk straight into an anomaly and explode.
Did find his gun though, looted the 5.56 from it and moved on. 😂
speaking of war crime missions, the || Faust || boss
why did they make that
Zelda ass boss fight
I really like the game but there are so many missions I never want to play again in the campaign
I’ve just been wandering and doing various jobs.
Did get spooked when I came across like 6 snorks.
can someone just remake gamma in 2 already 
"I cant see its too loud in here."
I like 2 the way it is. 😔
That might sound like blasphemy
But this is kinda what I meant before by people only wanting Anomaly or Gamma. It’s overshadowed the actual material it comes from.
They’re mods made with care, no doubt about that.
I’m enjoying it from a lore perspective and world building, main story is alright but I’ve always preferred the lore to the actual storyline in the trilogy
But it’s nice to see canonically what happened after CoP

Come to me
for me most of the game mechanics are absolute ahh. game is carried by the fact it's stalker and nostalgia :/
and vanilla is literally a walk fest, moreso than death stranding
I just don’t feel the same way.
bro's outcapping himself with every new message
And I loved Death Stranding too. 😂
I think i prefer vanilla s2 to the modlists I’ve tried so far for s2. Until there is greater modularity and player customization options for them, vanilla is the way to go.
I mean i like some of the individual mods, but there just isn’t enough to make a really complete feeling setup.
On an unrelated note, I’m having trouble deciding if I even like medieval fantasy games anymore. Was a big Souls fan, played some turn-based games and didn’t hate them, never was a Bethesda fan, yap yap yap. Dunno what my problem is.
can i ask a question about modding stalker 2 in here? kinda new to modding and just a little confused on something
there's no problem in not liking a setting
XD there are ||2 Scoutmasters in Burnt Forest||, and im on a mission to find 3rd one
wtf
with some of the acting, i'd be surprised if they weren't
are there any modpacks u guys would recommend
kinda tiered of not finding any good ones
building your own is the most optimal route since most of them aren't really normally updated
ig thats fair
i just want different gun controle kinda like tarkov or eft anomoly
if u would know of any mods to reccomend i would love to here them
any tips
contrary to popular belief the game is not about stalking
pathetic
a mimir
Looks like an ak12 with an acr lookin stock
Man, I’m really enjoying OXA:Prototype. Mainly because of the customization.
ahh Oxa proto
and saying scar thing
man
that just a bump for more "comfort" when aiming down the sight
a lot of Stock has that little bump that can be rise or go low
It would be more correct to say that it’s an ACR stock adapter.
It’s the 5KU ACR, look it up.
i mean the part he could be mentioning is called
CHEEK RISER
beat me because whatever they call
i rather call it's a bump riser
||Spark Ending gotchu like
then goes
real quick||
that is why i hate it
and well calling it adaptor is wrong too because you should say 5KU ACR style Adjustable Folding Stock if he is mentioning the entire stock

Chill
fart
pickle
i had the urge to put richter's face on it and call it pickle richter.
"in the zone, reality is what you make of it now, skif. you made me a pickle."
it was the pickles we made along the way
lost to the zone
I did experience one bug
infinite spawning bloodsuckers
I thought wiping them out would work, but no.
This is encouraging, they are confident that the engine will receive an update.
I just hope they won't stop at 5.5.4
UE6 
jk guys it's going back to xray
Better mod support 
Id honestly take that
Matter of fact add zone transitions too
Back at peak
transitions for everything
Heart of Bethesda
To use consumables
transition between every dialogue option
transition between each bullet
transition to use public toilet, complete with grunting.
Immersive and Cinematic zone, seems updated pretty often 😉
guys so everytime load into the game you have to wait for the shaders?
The compiling shaders bar at startup is to show gamers that stalker is now a AAA series

GAMMA could never
nearing the end-ish, just enough time to finish before the other long awaited Eastern European depression simulator sequel releases
I want a word with the lead quest designer for s2 after i finish
I have some things I must say 
Is there a Stalker 2 mod yet that adds skills that increaes over time (similar to Tarkov and GAMMA)? Not sure why I like that so much but it just makes the game progress more satisfying to me haha.
I don't know. If you discover any, please share 
such a mod would make for an interesting second run
Am I the only one mad about Stalker 2 not getting co-op?
(Or any multiplayer at the moment even tho its flippin advertised)
It not only with Stalker 2 but a lot of franchises sleeping on this feature
co-op was never a thing
co-op was never going to be a thing
mp is probably coming after they finish unfucking the game (engine update when) and maybe sell a dlc or two
Updated just NOW 🫡
I have no idea
Someone's bio had "All Duty are bastards" (I think it was Solarint) but other than that I haven't witnessed much Duty hate
We just clown on people who shill duty propaganda 
That’s just gamma players seething
is stalker 2 still bad
it's got better performance and more content than it had before.
as for "still bad" that's a bit relative
you already asked this a day ago and got answers
no like
if
i walk into a building
are 14 enemies going to spawn in front of me
no
or when i have an ally are they still going to walk over to a wall and study it while im being shot at
I’ve never had an ally so I can’t comment on that

what version is stalker 2 in
version?
thanks
@swift ocean What’s stylistically different ab 2
I honestly couldn't tell you the specifics, but every location just felt extremely same-y
I never felt like I was going to a new place (outside of the red forest and pripyat)
Still bad? I hate these posts and comments. I am playing it pretty heavily modded and it's one of the best games I have ever played now. "Is it good yet? Is it fixed yet? Is Alife there?" STFU and play it.
For some reason gamers do not want to play games before having a big opinion about it.
I don't think "stfu and play it" is any more or less valid than "is the game still bad" lmao
two sides of the same shit coin
The larger world is a blessing and a curse. I think it feels samey because the density of landmarks is less than the old stalker games. In the maps anomaly has you're always very close to some recognizable structure.
The S2 map has a lot of the old landmarks and many new ones, but there's a ton of space between them.
It doesn't help that real Chernobyl is flat as fuck.
Sure. Heard. I've been playing the Stalker games since they came out. Plus all the mods like Misery, COC, Last Day, Anomaly, Gamma, EFP or whatever. I would like to think my opinion is at least somewhat valid that I think S2 is worth playing now. I am having the time of life with this game now.
how does "stfu and play" help someone who thinks the game's current state isn't good
and how would anyone else know that the game is "one of the best you ever played" if you "heavily modded" it and they don't know your modlist?
of course your opinion is valid to you, you know what mods you're using
no one else does
Who cares? Play the damn game. If you don't like it then play something else. Shit, we all on the same discord talking about this so I would imagine we are playing the same stuff. Or close to it. No, I am sick of this "is the game good yet" posts. Well, try it and see.
I don't need to play the game, a YouTuber came to me in a dream and gave me my opinion.

so since you've got nothing to say about it except that its good with all your mods, the answer is the games still not worth playing then?
if you take a rando's word for it, sure.
I mean its pretty simple math. If the game is now good because they've heavily modded it, and they have nothing to say except that they've modded it and to stfu and play it, theres just nothing to write home about in it
Some people says that the map must be bigger, and some people like me says that make the map sooo big was a mistake
I think people should take what people on discord say with a grain of salt.
obviously, but if you ask a stalker discord about a stalker game and all people have to say about it is that its good with mods, thats just a review that its not good
Which is why i think looking at footage/gameplay is better than checking in randomly into a GAMMA discord asking "is it gud"
like 90% of these people hate GAMMA
im sure a majority hate s2 lol
nobodies opinion on here means shit really. (even mine)
idk, it feels like a fairly simple question.
"Hey is it worth my money now"
"if you add mods"
"aight so no"
See it depends on the person. I bought stalker 2 with the intention to mod it day 1 so
yeah but that sounds like you were honest with yourself that GSC releases buggy messes since cossacks
some people want a vanilla experience. I hate the vanilla experience. Most casuals will more than likely be okay with the vanilla game.
again, if you have to mod it for it to be good or fun, its not either of those things and thats an honest review
which is welcome btw. the issue is pretending that your personalized modlist makes spending money on it a good idea for people asking

JOIN DUTY WE HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE WORLD FROM DA ZONE
imagine stalker 2 mp
I cant imagine 
I will be one of the first to get the Strelok Skin on the battle pass
I'm like 67% sure the mp mode is going to be battle royale
The other part is team deathmatch like the originals
already there a project of HoC coop
but i only saw it once on github
oh fuggg :DDD dooty :DDD
this is my biggest complaint still. I am very mixed on the open world. the locations aren’t distinct enough and old landmarks feel smaller
Everything blends too much
On the other hand, it’s still cool seeing these landmarks in a larger context. Some places improved, a few got worse
Rostok got better, army warehouses got fucking murdered
Truck cem also feels way too small
This Pripyat is probably the best I’ve seen in a game scale wise tho
I also kinda don’t like the new red forest
i hate that whole left side of the map lmao but that's bc of lack of hubs. still haven't checked out the new dlc yet
yeah the western half is kind of a pain to go through
Duga/STD Malachite gameplay in a nutshell
idk I remember a while back being worried that the open connected world would ruin the loading screen filled anomaly map for me, but honestly it’s just made me appreciate it even more
The dlc is goated for having quick travel prompts after finishing missions
peak
I’m probably not gonna do the new missions before finishing. Had a good time but looking forward to putting the game down for a while
sheeeiiit i just did a spark play thru now im doing a freeroam checking places i was too distracted by the story to go.
to play pathologic 3
Time to find all of Scar's heart stashes, there's where he keeps all his catalytic converters
Wait there are new missions?
Like side quest stuff or did some paths got extended with more Main missions
Hey! What is the state of Stalker 2 these days? Have patches and mods brought it up to snuff yet?*
whole new side thing
Those are not positive looking reactions.
Bummer.
the games fine man. if you got money, get it. if you don't, wait for a deal. there's decent mods/overhauls if vanilla is not your cup of tea.
i think the biggest factor is your specs on whether you'll enjoy it or not tbh.
no the reaction was from people asking this all the time 
Ah shit yeah I'm sure that's the case isn't it. Sorry for contributing to it.
But like, sooo is the game good?
Kidding! I'll pick the game up thanks.
And come back here with actual discussion.
Oh hey, Sean in the useless chat
Besides adding a flashlight mod and Premium Placebo Optimization, I'm enjoying it a lot right now, having done over 20hr in a week, according to Steam
Hello
Huehuehuehuehuehue
I have over 500 hours in the game and there are still places I have never been to. I did this on purpose so I would have new places to explore with each playthrough. They did such s great job with the map. It actually feels like urban exploration.
I think so. I am loving it. One of my favorite gaming experiences of all time now. Just to clarify, yes I am using mods. SLZ, DWO, Stalker Unlimited and OXA standard as my base. Some other stuff thrown in. It feels like Radiophobia I guess. Something in between Gamma and OG Stalker.
could you hmu with a modlist? I may be willing to give it a go again if they work well enough together 
I have a question that may seem stupid (I always ask a lot of them), but how did you manage to transition from GAMMA to S2? What kind of gameplay do you have and how did you bridge the differences in mechanics?
this may sound obvious but, they’re different games just play the game and meet it on its own terms. same as you’d play any other game that isn’t GAMMA after playing GAMMA
I keep myself aware that GAMMA is Garry's Mod and that STALKER 2 is a proper game
For me, Gamma is one of the dozens of mods I've played
Gamma is autismo nerd shit (positive) and stalker 2 has to sell to as many capital G gamers as possible.
They are fundamentally different design philosophies.
Anyway I approach the official GSC games from the perspective of "yum, post Soviet far cry"
It does feel far cry at times yea
Not the fucking far cry comparison again 💀

It’s not wrong 
we even have to climb radio towers 
Just consider them different games and... that's it.
It's really not that deep.
At most, remember that stalker 2 is a sequel to stalker, not a sequel to gamma
I knew there was a drastic change in gameplay, but I did not expect that vanilla gameplay. modded it a fair bit to change some (absolute garbage) mechanics, but then fked myself with one of the mods :v

ex-military can't run more than 20 meters without chugging 10 energy drinks? yeah, GSC are actually crap at game mechanics
the world and setting are amazing
but the gameplay is literally UE5 yearly slop 😭
That's not really a "vanilla stalker" thing, it's just a stalker 2 thing. Strelok, Scar and Degtyarev can all run faster for longer.
also can't carry more than 50 kilos without being overencumbered but here's 20 kilos of ammo and consumables every 30 mins of gameplay
now you're just complaining for the sake of complaining
am I supposed to be a prepared stalker in an unforgiving zone that carries the supplies he needs all the time, or one that carries 2 mags on ammo and 2 medkits???
Finaly the 2 "games" are not comparable. We have GAMMA with 500 mods and S2 without a complete SDK. Just i want to play to S2, really, but after GAMMER, S2 is fade for me. I don't know if you understand what i try to say ahah.
debatable
that's not even comparing, that's just a thoughtless mechanic
I 100% believe noone at GSC played their own game or any game ever >.>
Strelok couldn't really run for too long, but with the right artifact setup..
not really. The OG trilogy protagonists can sprint faster for longer periods compared to Skif in HoC. That's not subjective.
at how much weight and with buffs?
I will not engage in goalpost moving bait
SOC and CS had weigth depandant stamina
Either way, I'm playing the game and I'm feeling this is STALKER
When I play GAMMA, I feel like a tourist that can for some reason carry 160 KG of shit and sprint faster than all entities in the game
even at minute one of SoC he can sprint better than skif 
totally understandable. they are fundamentally 2 different games that just share a world. and I for one prefer to mod the fk out of it to have it feel better, not necessarily to feel like gamma
I see what you say, i love GAMMA for the survivals mechanic, found parts of weapons etc etc
everyone that contributed to modding gamma are doing god's work. only issue stays with the outdated game and lack or CPU usage ;-;
same as saying that for most of SOC, with your equipment, youll have a comparable stamina bar to S2
except S2 doesnt let you have infinite stamina regen, which is bad
Cool opinion, which YouTuber gave it to you?
Iunno, I played Abiotic Factor and it doesn't play the same
Stalker 2 is definitely on the worse side of UE5 games
I bet it's that orb guy that made the S2 should've been like gamma video
I don't need a youtuber to form an opinion lol. I played games for 15 years, I know what is good and what is literal slop
only ones I watched regarding anything stalker related were Venoxium and clikrad for gamma
still nothing on S2
and probably won't watch a video on it since there's nothing noteworthy
For the performance and such 100%. For the gameplay idk how anyone couldve expected much different.
my biggest hate on the game being UE5 is that it runs better than gamma on my rig 😭
Is your CPU an artifact? How do you manage this lmao
even on gameplay there were issues. A-Life and weird bugs like guns spawning inside your inventory out of nowhere.
Game came out in an extremely sloppy and sorry state.
and until recently, artifacts spawning under the ground. Peak of the peak.
Those aren't really UE5 issues tho
To me UE5 slop means poor performance and an over reliance on UE5 included assets.
no game has ever benefitted for being created in UE5. it may be because it's a bad engine, it may be because the people using it don't know how, but no game that was made in UE5 was worthy of praise. (expedition 33 is an exception because of the story and gameplay, but preformance-wise it has the same issues)
I can think of at least 3 other "exceptions"
the engine isn't the issue. It's the lazy, incompetent devs.
Just like when we had Unity slop in the 2010s.
UE5 is a good engine. Problem is Epic licenses it out to any dumbass asking for it
so of course we're gonna get awful games made in it
that's what a lack of passion for gaming gets you I guess
that's way too subjective to discuss imo
not necessarily the devs, but the corporate fks that underpay and overwork them
some devs may want to make something good but are still stick at slopbisoft 
It's also just the state of the industry. Few companies have cohesive teams who have worked together for years anymore.
This hits the nail on the head for the current discussion quite concisely
again, I'm not trying to argue against the people that like vanilla S2, but for me it couldn't be worse :/
also this summarizes my opinion on UE5
and I heard Fallout 3 is getting a remaster/remake in UE5, so....
Oblivion got remastered in UE5 and it's fine.
They used UE5 only as a graphics and rendering engine.
Why would I care if a game I like gets a bad remake?
technical aspects of the engine can be discussed, but once we get to "passion for gaming" we start getting people saying weird words like "soul" and... yea it just becomes pointless beyond conciliation.
Exactly
And you can do a lot of conjecture about the devs and people in charge but in the end, how would you even know if that's the case or not
true that
I hate unoptimized games as much as the next guy but I've seen people so blinded by hatred for UE5 that they started saying Hogwarts Legacy and Stellar Blade are UE5 slop.
Both of those games were made in UE4. 
And on the topic of remasters.
I am happy either way even if it's a "bad" remaster, because it means that a game I like will get more exposure
I kinda prefer the "let sleeping dogs lie" philosophy
especially after seeing the announcement for the Deus Ex remaster... ugh 
Whilst I partially agree, only for games that work perfectly fine even on modern hardware
And deus ex is an example that doesn't need a remaster
but unfortunately that's exactly the kind of mentality that will bring our doom, but that's too political to discuss so imma just shut up
the only remaster/remake I truly want for modern hardware is the original Black & White
A lot of video game discourse is poisoned by people who feel a need to have big opinions about games they haven't actually played.
That would be pretty baller
B&W has been abandonware for over a decade now.
I hope GOG can bring it back evenutally.
We should all start spamming Walton Goggins to bring specific games to Gog
mhm. I even sent a submission or two to the gog "dreamlist" for their preservation program
but it's a waiting game, sadly
I just hope it happens in our lifetime lmao
Btw, Gamma is very popular on GoG (+800 reviews), more than s2 has
Free-ish and runs well on more systems and hyped by large YouTubers. Seems about right.
also most people on PC either bought stalker 2 on steam or played it via gamepass
I'm just sharing my observations
Average fight against 3 bandits in clear sky
inevitable, tbh lol
the parts system is pretty cool, but kinda fks the economy a bit :v
but I do like being able to afford stuff since S2 is made with the hero MC in mind
and everyone is a bum with less than 1k "coupons" in their pockets constantly
mod it to fit the economy system

as i said on brainfart, if someone make the health limb system, the remedies and drugs it would be perfectly enough
is there a mod for tasks?
Just give me 2-3 business years to download the SDK
hmmm i havent searched yet
it think it has cigs mod
havent searched yet to find out but almost sure someone already made it
I WANT !!!!
!onethreaded
@eternal tiger The game engine used for Anomaly is old, old to the point that you can't use the full 'potential' of your computer resources. Even with a 3090 Ti and a i7 11300 your game might lag.
It's highly suggested to check this channel, even if have a beefy PC: #╰⚡fps-optimisation

yeah ik, still didn't help much
OXA prototype is fine with the parts, but there are still some bugs, and snipers/shotguns/pistols are not implemented with the parts system
I'd say just stick with the standard for now
Ot has, I'm so happy
I quit smoking for a while
Very good do compensate by cyber smoking

GSC on this one technically has a lot of passion but the main fail that GSC had on the development was don't have good communication between the team.
is this supposed to be a puzzle of some kind?
it's in the train tunnel west of Truck Cementery
Doo doo fart
Does anyone else play the cinematic and immersive list? I can’t decide if i actually enjoy it or not. Wondered what other people thought.
#🤖bot-commands
i like how Oxoprototype mods barely resemble any function of "Gamma"
Repair on the move is the feature from anomoly itself
and "part to upgrades" does not degrade
how does the anomalous study task work i just go there and stay for a few minutes or do i find something ?
must be a generic shader thing when things get "wet"... on the second image I notice the outline on the sleeves
still the graphic is pretty good so far
tbh I like this one more than gamma
I replay gamma so many times xD
Hot damn is Stalker Unlimited a challenge.
I don't even think in a fun way. At the start you're constantly dying to the tiniest amount of rads and have no antirads.
I can't see the NPCs who shoot me either.
ive heard nothing but complaining about Unlimited lmao
I'm probably never gonna try it
I am going to remove it.
There are a couple nexus collections I might try that either omit that mod or include an easier submod.
Though OXA Prototype looks really interesting with weapon parts and whatnot.
OxA prototype is my go to foundation. then I just make tweaks as necessary from there
Ah I was just going to ask if you had tried that one.
Awesome. Thanks for your insight.
I have to say though the game sure is pretty. Came across uh The Ribs last night.
Im pretty sure OxA now has an installer so you can customize what you want in the game
I like Maklane's Better Zone when it comes to making Stalker 2 feel a little anomaly-lite, or at least more balanced
im staying far away from nexus collections
balanced in a way I like anyhow 
I had a neat encounter with a quest to kill bandits. I managed to sneak up to a group of 8 hanging out around a campfire behind this massive boulder. I chucked two grenades into the group and was happily surprised when the first actually detonated the second along with it.
Then I took a ton of fire from across some body of water while I darted in amongst corpses looting.
eh you don't gotta touch Vortex which is all I want to avoid lol
thats good to know
I'll check it out! Thanks.
i might make my own collection so if i have to reinstall, i can just regrab my shit
Skeefa I’m very gassy
Strelok during the ending.
THE CUP???
Yay more AI slop
I cannot draw for shit, but I wanted to meme. Without AI, I would have been unable to express myself.
Not all AI use is evil. It can have wholesome use too.
If you're not willing to dispense the smallest effort into learning what kids in 2010 did without courses, you do not earn any respect
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Anyway
Actually fire
Hey thats my meme! 
Yay, I have a job and other hobbies, but I must spend my free time learning photoshop because someone on the internet hates it when I use a tool to make my life easier.
The only person on the internet to have a job and other hobbies
Must? No.
But that's the response you're more than likely to get when you make slop
Nah. People who oppose AI content are a very vocal minority. Most people don't give a shit.
But hate away. Not my problem. I thought of something funny to share, so I did it.
Enjoy your AI slop dude
AI can be very useful in many things. unfortunately corporate greed just wants to replace the ones that put them where they are now and that will only end with a noose around their neck
How does this mod work? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3502957413
There's a youtube video linked, no?
we need Grok(from X) for discord atp... 😭
AI has no place here
AI is the Bane of our existence and will turn humanity into a brainless, skillless, craftless flock of big amoeba
Oh don't worry
Helper role means I help blind users maybe see
if he didn't get past reading the mod description how would explaining it help. that would still require reading 😭
cant decide if oxa standard is better than prototype coz prototype is an overhaul
did this in Paint using 2 screenshots in under 10 minutes.
The only thing stopping you from expressing yourself is you.
thank you for coming to my tedx
10 minutes bro. That's 9 minutes 30 seconds more than is necessary for this. It's a funny thought. I could probably do it in 5 mins, but why walk when you can drive?
Wait, that's a terrible analogy. I'd rather walk 10 minutes than drive one. Well, I can't think of an analogy rn but you get what I mean.
if you don't have 10 minutes of free time in your life all I can say is I feel sorry for you
and I did say under 10 minutes, if you wanna be that pedantic about "optimizing time"
we're not speedrunning life
well, at least I'm not
Have you seen ai content?
Even without corporate greed, harassing women and girls would still be the foremost use of AI image generation. It is a scourge upon us all.
Worlds richest man uses his tools to legally and easily allow the creation of CP, 2026 already makes me want to punch my own fucking ticket, yet I refuse to do it out sheer spite of these rich fuckers.
100% we gotta at least outlive them
why don't we punch their ticket instead
It doesn’t matter how big their castle of shit is made out of, we’re going to forcefully pull out a brick, one-by-one, and throw it right back fucking at em.
Regardless if our fingers bleed, or we get scars in the process. We’re gonna show that their “latest innovation” might as well be a broken down car with some dogshit in it. But hey, at least they did bare minimum to try and give it a new paintjob…
Yeah I don't disagree man but this is a Wendy's I mean stalker 2 channel
And AI isn’t gonna go anywhere, the only way people are gonna respect AI is when the incentive of money is no longer involved, and that our tax payer money isn’t going to some rich retard, who’s only qualifications is that they the have shitiest of grins and convince even dumber retards with the equivalent of JINGLING FUCKING KEYS AT THEM LIKE A GODDAMN TODDLER.
Again, I apologize.
This year is already going to shit, and we barely have past the second. Fucking. Week of this month…
Alright, but maybe next time do it elsewhere because it does get awkward with mentions of Callofduty Points and throwing bricks at things
Yes, we share your feelings, and I recognize that this offtopic is entirely my fault, but keep it on the dl
Got it, Dry. My bad.
As an inspiring artist, is starting to piss me off that people are actually proud at doing the barest of minimums.
It’s just pathetic.
But I’m gonna stop myself here.
Thanks.
aspiring artist* ☝️🤓
Fuck.
I'm inspired by his aspiration to be an artist
Yo, check out this cool cat.
Ward playthrough is quite based btw
I'm doing a Spark one and it is too so nice to hear the story holds up well on both sides
also, anyone here use oXa standard able to tell me if its safe to install mid-save?
Hot take so correct me if I'm wrong: a thing not many talk about STALKER 2 is the story/plot or even the lore changes and I think for good reason. The story of STALKER 2 is imo...well all over the place. I mean in the previous ones, you had a clear storyline but here it starts off simple and gets nuts mid-way through. Additionally wtf is the point of coupons ? They could've easily have kept rubbles. Hell the reason, the military is absent from the game and instead replaced by the IPSF, is because of the Ukraine war which is fine but also the universe of STALKER is completely fictional. Hell not many even talk about the Ward, SIRCAA or even the characters associated with them. ||I also I hate how they did Strelok dirty, he had no reason of going back to the Zone. He could've just retired and lived a happy life, he's only back for the sake of fan service.||
Now I guess the reason I'm rather disappointed is because prob for so many people, we were stuck to playing the original trilogy and mods for like a decade so we just ended up getting attached to all the classic ideas of STALKER. Plus people playing mods like Anomaly and GAMMA not for the story but for the sake of being a survival horror simulator (I'm guilty of it too), says a lot why noone would bother with STALKER 2's plot.
is modding starting to take of for S2 yet?
It's still actively updating and near each update breaks mods
So not really
who's "noone"? I saw a lot of people saying stalker 2's story is good
Most of the whining comes from people mad that Duty and Freedom are sidelined
yo
another big batch of complaints are from people who, like you say, only played sandbox survival mods like anomaly or gamma who never cared about any story to begin with, so... why should we care what they think 
it's an open-world first person shooter with exploration, light RPG elements and a single-player story for you to follow (with sidequests, factions, npcs that can be either friendly or hostile)
in a sci-fi "post apocalyptic" setting inside the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, where mutated animals roam and weird shit (aka 'anomalies') dot the landscape
sorry, Ch**o**rnobyl.
the "rpg elements" are mostly just an inventory and equipment system, where you have to manage the weight of the items you're carrying, there's different suits of armor with different defensive stats, same for guns. Armors and guns can be upgraded.
what else
I'm awful at descibring the games I play lol
I think Stalker 2’s story did its job well. You have questions, and you’ll get answers, and whether or not you trust those answers is up to you. I think it was a good idea for morality in the zone to be all sorts of grey. You can either be a helpful nice guy or a complete jackass and The Zone could give less of a shit about it.
I think certain games with a morality system often mess up in certain areas, mainly where being a good person is good, not just morality, but in gameplay wise, and being bad just gives you barely anything and mostly just cons.
So yeah, that’s what I think.
Also I think comparing this game to Gamma is stupid because they’re going for two different goals.
Imma keep it real, ever since Escape From Tarkov, every stalker mod since them is just another Tactislop modpack #267480951203
No offense to the people who enjoy Gamma, I’m not immune to the tactislop myself.

truth
stalker, fallout new vegas/4 and many other games' modding communities suffered irreversible damage due to tarkov
for real
Remember when EFT was veiled as the next innovation of FPS shooters?
Yeah… what a fucking joke that became.
for a time, it was quite innovative.
Then I saw a video of a guy reloading his gun while sprinting full-tilt. Then he bunny hopped to dodge enemy fire.
Then he lasered the guy with zero recoil on his gun.
Imagine waiting that long for the 1.0 release, only for it to be same tedious, grinding bullshit, except with a tutorial beginning and four endings.
dunno if the zero recoil was actually from the game or some gamer mouse macro he setup
Or cheats.
The addition of the group that constantly complains that a gun isn't realistic and that the game should be more realistic and the devs are wrong for not making it realistic
I would argue that mouse macros to automaticaly move your aim down while shooting is a cheat, but that's just me
the tragic thing is that you can essentially achieve fuck all recoil in EFT
ah yeah the armchair gun nuts
it's either Tarkov of COD MW 2019 to blame for this
Shame, I kinda liked COD MW 2019. Yet it showcases systems that are actively killing it to this day.
Funny how it just became "We have Fortnite at home"
And Battlefield 6 looks nice, but whatever you do, DON’T LOOK AT THE SUBREDDIT.
Unless it’s okaybuddypfto, there’s some funny shit there sometimes.
There was an ungodly amount of cheaters in that game on release
I enjoyed bf6 a bunch on release but it's quite fucked what they did with it now
all of the cosmetics and battlepass bullshit crammed in
guess I was mostly lucky, never had many issues myself ^^
It's fun. It's definitely another battlefield game, if you're into those.
If I learned something from talking about games online, is that if a consensus around something gets popular enough, that’s the only thing you’ll hear…
And I fucking HATE it…
"We won't do what cod is doing"
-Right before they proceeded to do it
EA will be EA
yeah..
At least the launch was fun
There was a game to be had unlike 2043 or whatever it was called
Yeah like Veilguard had issues with the writing. But 90% of complainers didn't play it. They watched a review from someone who didn't finish act 1. (The character they all hate shows up in act 2)
I should finish veilguard at some point
Look, I get that battle pass and skins are the new norm. But even a broken clock is right twice a day. I think that’s how the saying goes.
played the beta, thought it was quite mid. Battlefield has been "cod-ified" ages ago and it feels like I'm the only one who noticed.
But then the honeymoon phase ended after launch and the game lost like 80% of its players.
The community could put its energy into more serious issues.
Yet they’re using the bitch about… women… in their masculine game about thick buff men fighting other thick buff men.
but EA will never give us a battlefield game with the original formula again
Makes sense it was cod-ified the leader of the dev team was literally the guy who made MW2
yeah, but I meant BF has been cod-ified since Bad Company
we've been playing iterations of bad company in different settings since then, and it plays just like cod
tbf I've only started playing Battlefield at BF1
I started at BF3 lmao
It felt different enough for me guess I didn't know shit back then lmao
the old design was less user-friendly and more "complex" (convoluted in some people's minds). For example if you died to a headshot, you couldn't be revived. But that was any headshot, not just a Recon using a sniper rifle with the maxed out perk that BF6 has.
Oh and you also couldn't be revived if you died to explosives.
so you know... aiming for the head actually mattered.
(or spamming nades.)

factions were asymmetrical. You don't get vietcongs using helicopters in BF Vietnam for instance lol
Mfw they think the issue with the badly written trans character is the "trans character" part and not the "badly written" part.
These are all legitimate critiques and opinions… but I’m sorry, I can’t take them seriously. When I see people reddit-whoring themselves for as much karma as possible, it made me realize that the people who enjoy games are the same people who rarely engages with shit that isn’t meant to provoke nuance or conversation…
It’s just…
Say things that people will already agree with…
Free karma lmao
we need more buff shirtless men combat based games fr
I don't actually think Taash was badly written. My opinion of them might be insane but I think they were written as an obnoxious, insufferable and self-entitled prick intentionally.
So if they did intentionally make Taash that way, they succeeded. Hence... they were well-written. 
kinda like the calypso twins in Borderlands 3.
They're cringe, insufferable and make you wanna bite a power cable whenever they're on-screen or yapping at you via the ECHO communicator.
but that was the intent.
This fucking thing in the swamp…
ngl S2 based for this
Taash is a good insufferable young person chip on the shoulder character, but the trans aspects were not done very well.
agreed. People who enjoy games are too busy playing games to be engaging in reddit "discourse" and wasting time arguing about pointless bullshit online
fr its how you can tell the gamers vs fakers
Guys you don’t understand! We must now all be progressively more racist, misogynist, homophonic, and ESPECIALLY transphobic to defeat…
the wokeslop
they post here on discord in unrelated channels instead
/hj
(For obvious reasons, this is a joke.)
guilty as charged
Bro is taking 20 years to reload this fucking Val and I’m just getting mauled 🙁
aren't we all lmao
If the Noosphere was real they'd do female protag for stalker 3 and farm that energy to turn into electricity or something
idk if id trust gsc making stalker 3 after the disaster that was stalker 2
the dichotomy of man
fr whats ukraine
Oh shit! It’s Hatsune Miku!
sounds made up
They'll be better at UE at least
true good point
The place where they invented bootleg cigarettes
why?
once the game gets "fixed" and they restore some goodwill, they'll be shaking their cup to Microsoft for a third game eventually
Just turn into a pear
Most studios first UE5 game has a lot of issues.
place your bets if it'l be more or less broken
yeah it's pretty inevitable
I currently have 14 rounds left and I just dumped 30 into it before hand as it casually walked into darkness
You mean Microslop
knife knife knife knife
isn't it a perfect match for GSlopC? 
We being forced to Downgrade to AIdows 11 for this one 🔥
Honestly, no clue.
Anything but more tactislop modpacks, please.
I think we have enough.
GlopSlopClop (pronounced with a soft c)
I used to like Microsoft until they raised the price for GamePass and made it more difficult to earn Microsoft Points
Guess they don't want me farming up 100k+ points to get a full year of game pass for free.
I know this is cheeky on my part but... screw them either way lmao
I will only respect them again if they announce Lost Odyssey for modern platforms
Calling it now if Stalker 3 even comes out it'll be run solely through the cloud on copilot
oof
I’m not a big fan of the direction they took the story either; I’d prefer more grounded stories about ordinary people
Ordinary? In the zone? 
i mean ofc ||strelok went back he still didnt get his wish of full hair granted||

Even the wish granter couldn’t fix his hairline.
the shining zone scar saw was just the reflection of the sun on streloks hairless forehead
@wary rune btw herehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1454821351939637269/senator-armstrong-1616395676.gif
hello.
do i still need optimization mods for s2?
hacker
oh so everyones waiting until stable
there is still pretty active modding for s2 on nexus but yeah. it's understandable that the big wave of modding is gonna be when that update drops more than likely.
The priority of mods how does it work? those who are down all charge first?
in alphabetical order
What is the state of stalker 2? Is there a-life yet?
btw do traders keep their the sht I sell them permanently or was that one of my mods messing it up? at some point I had to scroll more than 5 pages worth of garbage to get to their actual stock 
!noalife
!hasalife
its restock with time

no no, I know they change their inventory, but they keep all the stuff I sold to them
they did change their base offers, but kept everything I ever sold to each
I hope i will live long enough to see the game "fixed"
On the other hand I miss that one dude that played S2 on a really low end PC. Shit looked like a PS1 game 
I think I know who you're talking about... he's still regularly active in offtopic, but he doesn't show up here since he stopped playing
iirc he did that shit as an experiment but didn't fully commit to playing stalker 2 that way 
@icy bough did you actually play stalker 2 after you managed to disable lumen and destroy the graphics?

hiii 
i played a bit
my save is like 9-11 hours long
Btw. was it you that somehow killed Richter and carried his body around?
but i kept getting memory leaks over and over after at somepoint
so i stopped trying
at rostok
Nvm found it 😄
i reached the point in the story right after you leave the giant lab and the crazy stuff happens. is it worth starting a new save with modular hard mode 2 and all its recommended mods and finishing the game with that installed vs just finishing the story and then downloading the mod?
After wild island, i need to go sphere before scar ?
MHM is no longer supported.
If you want to get the other Emitter, Yes.
Getting both has no story impact though that I can remember.
Bro partaking in the chornobyl space program
Hi,
I know this isn’t the official S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Discord, but I’m hoping some people here are also on the official server and can help pass this along.
I was banned because my account was hacked and used to send spam/scam messages. Those messages were not sent by me. I have now secured my account (password changed and 2FA enabled) and I’d like to ask the moderators for a review of the ban.
If any moderator is here, or if someone can forward this to them, I’d really appreciate it. I can provide any proof needed.
Thank to the person who help me. Really appreciate.
How is modded stalker 2 in 2026, anything promising/cool? Getting a new GPU finally
0 rebalans mods 0 story mods 0 real a-life mods 0 new items mods 0 new content mods 0 difficulty mods only infinity stamina parkour and infinity weight mods and something for better graphics still need wait for 5.5.4 no point to back zone at this moment
All mods after new update dead no one want mods this before engine update and 1.0 version
To sum up, all the problems surrounding this game and things that need to be changed/improved have not been touched in any way since the release by any mod or GSC
Because the SDK is still not fully functional
only people say that optimization has been slightly improved and bugs have been fixed since the release, but the most changes are expected in 5.5.4
but on 4080super 7800x3d this game worked fine anyway on ultra 1440p so for me it's no +
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fwjBdHdHb14 I saw something like this a while ago and if NPCs actually behaved like that it would be an absolute banger but I don't even know what it is
Here is the mods list:
COLD LIGHT - PHOTOREALISTIC ZONE 2.0.6 - https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/265
BIG GRAPHICS - https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/564?tab=posts
Shay's - Distant Horizons(150m) - https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1879
Immersive HUD - https://www.nexusmods.c...
it would even work very well without A-life as a simple bubble, 100-150m of combat would be much more satisfying and emotional, now they just stand still or move forward at a minimal pace like in the game from 1990
Ah yes, claims that aren't actually quite true 
The battlefield 6 tactic of making shit up as long if it appeals to the public consensus.
click stalker 2
grayname speaking yapanese
what are your thoughts on Stalker 2 vs Gamma? I really like gamma for "realistic" guns and generally the progression and sheer scale of the map.
Will Stalker 2 punch those points or not yet? (maybe with some mods in the future?)
first off, you're going to be laughed at if you're trying to compare stalker 2 to gamma, especially in here.
second off
!gamma2
He’s making a tarkov mod?
I like both, with some mods they are identical in some ways, both have their strengths and both feel stalker, but they are two very different experiences, if you ask me my stalker 2 vanilla needs to improve a lot but with mods like SLZ improves a lot
I might get off arena for once
They're not comparable outside of them both being FPS games in a similar setting. Stalker 2 is much more in line with the original three games in that it's much more straightforward and "gamey" but not in a bad way. Frankly, I've come to prefer the texture of the original games and Stalker 2 when it comes to exploring the setting. Anomaly and the mod packs have absorbed a lot of brainrot from the wider FPS community... I still love G.A.M.M.A for what it is though
Stalker 2 is bad
Story is pretty good
But everything else can’t even tough the original which it aimed to surpass
Eh, I really like Stalker 2. The environment looks awesome and the artists clearly put a lot of love into it. Mechanically, it's weak, yes, though I think the gunplay is fun. Enemy AI is the worst part of combat. I've been enjoy it over all though
Real
I shouldn’t have said it’s all bad
I just dislike the dev team now; they just started multiplayer concepts 5 years after announcing it
if anyone still wants this xD some poor deathmatch with no potential as it always was the only real multiplayer is in Stalcraft X
It does suck it’s death match but then then
Just starting on a multyplayer concepts now? 5 years after announcing multyplayer
Such a scam
I see bigger problem
Where is my A-life 2.0 what i buy 3years ago maybe after 1year+ still didint see in game
This is scam
Are you trying to get unbanned on STALKER 2 by appealing on GAMMA???
Go make an alt account and join S2 server to get your main unbanned lmao
S2 discord users have literally no use being here, unless they wanna play GAMMA
Absolutely, and a kind soul passed along my request. Many thanks to her again. I created a new account, but it’s useless — it’s an IP and/or machine-ID ban.

after falling in love with the stalker universe with hundreds of hours in gamma i made it
did I just witness someone unironically mentioning stalcraft as a good game
did that really happen
You know it's mid because YouTubers only ever make 1 video on it.
I played it when it came out on steam and lets just say I like the idea
but being camped by high level players in lower lvl areas is wild
and then you can just get camped by the whole faction
this is not the mention the stupid grinds to get new gear when you get to the Bar(Rostok copy)
exactly same in my case
guess that's more "fun" than deathmatch where you actually have a fighting chance

and bad gamedesign
The person who was paid to say it's good must be right 
Does anyone recommend any Stalker 2 modlists that are currently out (or collections)? Want to give it my first real playthrough...but alas I am spoiled by GAMMA lol. Clikrad's Immersive Stalker looks pretty legit, but wanted to ask here in case I'm missing a great one!
I'm using Maklane's Better Zone + some of the recommended mods (Living Zone, oXa Standard, Instant Long Range Aggro fix) to make Stalker 2 a better vanilla+ experience, there's a lil bit of jank every once in a while but I'm really enjoying the game
not only that its same running simulator especially if u got killed 
anyone know if there's a compatibility patch for oxa with this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1825?tab=description
Can I ask about stalker 2 in this channel ? ( like dlss and performance things)
yes
Is anyone tried Dlss 4.5 preset M ? I have RTX4060 8gb 75Watt mobile GPU I use dlss 4.5 preset M / in game I usually use FG on and balanced mode but my game is very flickery like using ultra performance anyone got this problem? Is it related to game or my settings or nvidia?
we're not experts though 
I just need a person who tried dlss on stalker 2 rn
windows ruined the record but I think difference is visible
idk man could be dlss 4.5
Use performance or Ultra performance with preset M. It is not designed for balanced or quality.
well it gets worse
I do not have that issue with it. People have reported "Boiling" issues but not sure what about the preset is causing it.
I assume this is a laptop, is it 1080p?
yup its laptop and it has 1080p screen
but is the game set at 1080p resolution 
the ingame settings
Dlss may be downscaling it too much and your getting a fucked image.
You may have better luck on balanced or quality with preset K.
what about using native DLAA, how does that act, out of curiosity
45 fps unstable
I dont know why but in DLAA my fps is around 45 to 80
Are you choosing a preset or just forcing latest?
DLAA is extremely performance hungry.
nope its in K preset right now
Are you still seeing the boiling effect?
With balanced?
unfortunately if you don't want to upscale you'll have to do DLAA because otherwhise you just dont have any AA and it's all crunchy
They have a 4060 mobile gpu. They are going to have to use some form of upscaling for decent performance.
DLAA will not be a fun experience.
In balanced a lot like some areas are getting brighter and darker when I stand still but in quality the effect is showing on further
Wonder if it's lumen shimmer. Could try raising your global illumination.
I was saying that more in general, because I just cant believe there isn't any seperate AA you can have active
it's mind boggling
Lowering sharpness might help also.
Yeah, I think they assumed everyone would be using upscaling.
yeah, state of modern gaming and so on
man I remembered when DLSS was first starting to become a thing and everyone was excited about how low end cards will in the future be able to play more demanding games as well
and here we are
with the exact opposite having happened
Well, You give devs a way to lower workflow with a system like dlss and they are going to take advantage of it.
Your seeing the same shit with AI.
can we just like do a hard reset 
People will always find a way to exploit new technology to cut corners.
if only.
there aren't many corners to cut anymore, we basically have a sphere
I changed to high and the problem is fixed also balanced is not looking bad right now
balanced is 90-100 fps , quality is 80-90 fps
I'd keep GI on High, Put sharpness to 0. Then try preset M again on performance.
I think you were having a compounding issue because of Lumen.
Unless your fine with that FPS.
yeah I tried but it was bad even the dlss quality I think there is a problem for dlss 4.5
in performance and ultra performance has same boiling problem
but thanks a lot
90 fps is fine to me
Sadly it's a known issue on 1080p screens with dlss. The dlss performance mode is lowering your resolution too much before it upscales the image.
I guess if I have 2k-4k screen my gpu doesnt handle it
Yeah, I mean. It's just a limitation on current DLSS. Hopefully it gets better in the future.
At least we got it looking better while maintaining decent fps.
I switch back to 60 fps cap and rigt now its looking good and runs good
thanks for helping me
Anytime.
wait for a discount
Ey man as much as I love shitposting, I gotta give an honest question an honest answer
Does anyone know which mod I use to make my store have fewer weapons? I'd like a wider variety of weapons.
My issue with the faust fight was that his hair kept glowing neon red which was making it hard to shoot at him accurately
Had to turn down hair quality for the disco lights to stop
damn he turned into an anime character on you, guess my low graphics settings saved me lmao
just skipped an entire emission by running in and out of the Mist arch anomaly 
https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-god-goku-gif-26833743 was your faust looking for dragonballs?
so, we cant be behind trees to get cover anymore huh
bullets go through solid wood
that was not happening in the later versions
It’s been bugged since November 17th
so bullets going through trees is a bug?
not a changed feature?
The problem is the weapons cover penetration variable is not working properly. It's penetrating cover off of the armor penetration variable. Which is normally a much higher variable. So it kind of defeats most material pen resistance.
There is a mod being worked on for vanilla. Sadly each overhaul will have to tweak it to fit their AP changes.
I think Faust is more of a Naruto character with this shadow clone ninmonolithjutsu
Faust did nothing wrong
He's just a sad guy 
anyone know of a fix for not being able to save on master mode in the new hub? even post quest it's still not considered a safe spot and I have to go out of my way with the other mod that lets you save at barrels and campfires to the campfire outside of camp
You’re not getting the saves when exiting the hub either? When you don’t have expedition rework enabled.
Vanilla expedition should be saving when walking out of the doors of the hub.
doesn't save when exiting hubs, can only save within hubs and around campfires is the current behaviour im getting
That’s because of expedition rework.
I’m talking about the vanilla master mode save system.
It should save when you exit a hub.
Hub exit saves are disabled in expedition rework.
right, I've got expedition rework installed and there's no valid save zone around the area otherwise
just was wondering if there's a flag missing in the area that would allow me to save there, otherwise the only way I've been able to nab a save was via scoutmaster guiding me to another area
and sleeping of course
The problem is expedition rework has not been updated since stories untold came out I believe.
ah.
I’d have to open the files to see how he has it set up. But my guess is the hub doesn’t exist in the .cfg.
unfortunate, I do like the mod otherwise
I’ll hop on the pc in a bit and take a look.
He wants happiness for all
y'know saying that, my dumbass would think that all areas just have a 0/1 variable that lists them as a valid hub or not
Well the campfire and barrels work off of blueprints.
I’m not sure about the hubs.
Going to take a look now.
So I don't see anything defining hubs. Which means it's probably running off of blueprints and would need the SDK to look at it. Which I don't have access to atm.
The most that would be possible is reenabling the hub exit saves.
gotcha, probably when I get a chance to hop on my PC I'll just see if there's another mod that I can use to save freely while I just self regulate the ruleset
You can try this and see if hub exit saves work for the meantime until you find something else.
But again. It could be a blueprint problem that the hub just isn't added yet.
LOOOOOL
I tried to not bother you with it but I think it's BP related lol.
yeah its not added
bless thee mod maker
if u give me the coords i can add it in 1min
and send u a test version
XShowDebug
or XShowGSCDebug
or some form of that
or jorics map if its accurate
Joric's is not updated for new hub features. So it's hard to get a centralized coord.
Let me throw in SML and I'll noclip there and get them for you.
That's as central as I could get it.
@sinful dawn Try the above file. Hopefully it lets you manual save in the hub now.
According to Dezodor, GSC Game World it's helping to develop S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2: Old Concept, a cut-content restoration mod of the old S2.
This is the official dezowave group headquarters. Here you will find everything about us, Priboi Story, and Lost Alpha.
yes, X-Ray 2.0
Dezowawe Team basically has to make from the scratch the engine to complete it and have it on proper conditions because the leaked engine was very incomplete due to that when S2 was cancelled everything that it's in the in-game aspect was in early stages of development.
@sullen thunder (kathryn_aurbrey.) has been banned for reason: Better luck next time, scamboi
The bots are evolving.
They are evolving now?

Dw about it
They still get caught
Thankfully, just glad I dont have to deal with it in my server. I can imagine the hassle with a server this huge
Uhhhh
Audit statistics to Ragequit
Here's our bot that catches casino scam images
Holy!
What does it look for?
A pattern of words?
Blacklisted media, yeah
Audit statistics to Dry
This you? ^

Naw
An overwhelming amount of those bans is ATeveryone pings by compromised accounts
More like this
XD
"It's 2 in the fuckin mornin, cease"
anyone I could DM about stalker 2 lore? mostly about the endings (any ending works, since its more of a universal thing about the endings)
Just put || on either side of what you type. Will spoiler tag it and hide it until clicked.
stalker 2 ending stuff || so in the endings we insert a cartridge (a digital copy of us?) and also go into a vat/pod to boil, pepsi and probably join c-con, So the question is, why is the pod thing essential if the device already has a digital copy of us? besides, thats what the previous 7 guys did, why us too? and why does it also cause whoever goes into the pod to be the new face of c-con, unlike back then with the previous 7 where it was more or less a shared entity? ||
||At that point you (or whoever you support) are the only ones in a pod. C-con is just an imprint of consciousness in the form a subtle matter at the time of stalker 2, As their pods were all destroyed by Strelok in SOC. It is stated by C-con that they have no control over the physical world anymore because their physical bodies were destroyed. This implies that in order to truly control the zone one must be in physical form inside a pod. ||
hmmm... || so right after SOC, since they "died", they became (or the representative?) a blank slate? a null 0 emotion, 0 self, almost like a robot. And since they dont have a physical body/dead--- you/whoever you support becomes the 1 and only personality of C-con? what about that thing that Col Korshunov says to Dalin? about him seeing the 7 (or atleast Dalin's father) boiling. Hence why he thinks its impossible for any of them to be alive, Im assuming he 'witnessed' this before Strelok killed them.||
||it also gets a lot more ambiguous because of the whole subtle matter thing, because depending on if you want to believe it real, c-con is still "alive" as you can experience in sparks ending.
But it's a huge caveat since it most likely is just an illusion to trick you into doing c-cons will||
|| No, an imprint of their consciousness is in the noosphere in the form of subtle matter. They still act as they would if they were still alive at the time the imprint was made. And Immortalmo is correct, The existence of subtle matter as an actual thing is never directly confirmed and is explained differently depending on what path you follow. ||
|| so vaguely answerable for now... and definitely needs some more story expansion? ||
game is supposed to get 2 DLC right? hope that clears things out.
I'm unsure if we're going to get a clear answer for it, but we'll see
|| Potentially, It really depends on how they want to play it. Secrets and mysteries are inherent to the zone. So I wouldn't even be upset if they let it remain unanswered. I tend to believe subtle matter is real as there are too many things that stop making sense if you were to think it's fake. But anything is possible ||
|| I worded this wrong, and mostly cause Im focusing on just 1 ending being true but we dont really know what cause none of the endings is canon till a follow up on the story that progresses it fruther.||
yeah hopefully....
Imagine if they do a "break in the west" kind of deal 
(reference to daggerfalls multiple endings)
(where all of them are canon)
|| so back to the OG thing, is it safe to say the reason why the representative for example, still exists and interacts with us (Dalin, Us, Monolith, etc) is cause the 7 still has their cartridges inserted? ||
|| See, This is why I err on the side of subtle matter being real. But is it possible to be cartridge related... maybe. ||
|| yeah but doesnt Spark's ending Imply SM to not truely be a thing? cause in the end, we were most likely tripping balls like we were high af.||
|| That's why I said earlier the endings contradict themselves. || They all can't be true at the same time.
|| The shining zone was a lie 100%. It was just a part of the control C-Con had over Scar. Most of Scars motives was a combination of suggestive brainwashing by C-Con and the brainwashing he had where they forced Marshal's memories into him in order to stir up the hatred of the Ward. At the point we are a part of the story all of spark is acting under the motivations of C-Con. They are all just oblivious to this fact as they follow Scar.||
hmmm
|| Again this begs the question, If all of these machinations were at the hands of C-Con... How could Subtle matter not exist.||
||SM def exists. But each game makes it clear that it isn't what you expect and you won't get what you want from it||
I agree.
welp, thx guys.
Yes, supposedly GSC is going to announce formally the first expansion with DLC and all in february and launch it on april or smth, i don't remember exactly why, just that these comes from that in the "holidays" image and in the code of x thingi there numbers about a date
Their FYE is prob January 31st. So they want to start their new one with a major announcement. That would be my guess.
Also i don't remember if the upgrade of the engine will come out along the first expansion
bruh, at this point, I just want a downgrade, or disabled Lumens....
They prob should have stuck with UE4. But I assume they prob wanted to future proof it more with a new engine and potentially a contract with epic for using the new engine.
But who knows, What's done is done. Now we wait to see what happens.
It also could have been part of the investment contract with M$.
Who knows.
I love the game, but its too heavy for its own good, I dont like having 144 fps (with fsr) then randomly dipping to 60s.....
I can't wait strelka in fornite
What a combo.
Controller and burer skins.
and thats 144 avg, then a random ai duo throws afew nades and my fps drops to 60s xD
I have mine locked to 100 though nvidia. I rarely dip outside of hubs. But I use dlss 4.5 preset M on performance and FSR 3.1.
FSR 3.1 drives me nuts though.
me: cries in 3070ti
I'm on a 3080. So not a huge difference.
welp, my refusal to update drivers for the sake of my dum dumb monitor set up is going to haunt me for now
Friend of mine has a similar issue, He has a 50 series and any newer drivers cause his monitor to loose connection. Strangest thing.
yeah... got a decent 144hz main monitor but the rest are vga, and using converters on the GPU is fine and all till I go past v56X.XX
Interesting.
I was going to make a joke about some certain files, given the number of black lines I'm seeing in this chat.
just got my 2nd liquid rock, can finally equip my 2nd hypercube 

What if I wanted to drink bug milk in an artillery crater but the bloodsuckers keep coming
give em some milk and tell em to fuck off !!
love when a high paying side quest asks for an artifact sitting in ur stash 
short answer: no
long answer: ask in #╟🔰☢newbies-chat
i would go ask on their discord cause everybody here doesn't think it's real lol






