the first idea for a gaussrifle was made before chernobyl happened irl im pretty sure
#╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting
molten osprey
wanton arch
it's just railgun
gaussrifle is just
Railgun
because they found the artefact called battery
that is how you have Handheld Railgun
called Gauss Gun
Fictional shit kinda because the thing called battery artefact
but the concept is
"realistic"
hallow canopy
It is a staple of the series
But to add more modern guns from the NATO as well as other countries would Not fit the Stalker vibe.
wanton arch
don't beat me because i dig this shit too deep and idk how to explain more
kindred violet
It is a staple of the series
But to add more modern guns from the NATO as well ...
My man, how many modern nato guns are in the og stalkers 
wanton arch
It is a staple of the series
But to add more modern guns from the NATO as well ...
Fail gun could make into the zone i will be honest
non btw
LR3000
L85
or SA80
and what ?
G36
molten osprey
i also find it highly unrealistic that at this point in time mercenaries and arms dealer got interested in the zone and moved nato guns there
really unlikely
i cant wrap my head around this thought
cough
molten osprey
(Sarcasm)
wanton arch
the IWI caramel is a successful gun from the west
molten osprey
(dripping from sarcasm)
wanton arch
so they brought that shit into the zone
molten osprey
wanton arch
same with HK416 and G36 i believe
nuh uh
ok outside from those reason i cannot say much
hallow canopy
i also find it highly unrealistic that at this point in time mercenaries and arm...
I too cant wrap my head around a post Soviet country that has had many mass produced weapons see as a more cheaper yet effective method of having firearms distribute for said people better than NATO guns that have more expensive ammo that the economy of said country never really seem to care to build up on.
cough really weird cough
wanton arch
?
kindred violet
Bro didn't understand the sarcasm correctly
molten osprey
yeah okay all the mercenaries from the west drop their guns because ak is cheaper
i see
kindred violet
molten osprey
a faction contacting an arms dealer about more reliable nato weapons than using the aks that withered for ages also sounds highly unlikely
wanton arch
clearly they trying to hit Aug
molten osprey
i see
hallow canopy
yeah okay all the mercenaries from the west drop their guns because ak is cheape...
Ahh yes the capitalist contractors that do they job as "hired gun" totally cant afford modern weapons with the highest "quality" of ammo that someone could convince them to use
molten osprey
i think you didnt get me
molten osprey
i think there isnt much to get
hallow canopy
Yea
I agree
Pointless to argue to a wall
molten osprey
warped monolith
It is a staple of the series
But to add more modern guns from the NATO as well ...
nato/western guns are also a staple of the series
pseudo falcon
@tidal remnant what will u use?
oxa standard (changes attachments only) or protoype (overhaul)
outer depot
I don’t really know what the argument is here tbh
molten osprey
Yea
I agree
Pointless to argue to a wall
to make it understandable, you said nato weapons dont fit the vibe. i think they do fit the vibe perfectly, what doesnt fit the vibe is everyone running around with ww2/CW era guns because they are cheap
kindred violet
random ass goofy gun called SA80
I'd love the modernized sa80 ngl
molten osprey
anyone who is more experienced than a rookie would give up his ak that is older than his father
wanton arch
unlike the A1 where it keep BREAKING IT SELF
outer depot
Pretty sure most people use what’s the most available
And what can be supported the easiest
So either an AK or an AR welcome to the modern world
The carcinization of gun design
warped monolith
I don’t really know what the argument is here tbh
"modern NATO guns don't fit the stalker vibe"
game's had "modern NATO guns" since shadow of chernobyl
viper-5 is a MP5
IL86 is the SA80
GP37 is the G36
FT-200M is the FN F2000
outer depot
yeah I think we dropped the F2K and SA80 for the Carmel lmao
molten osprey
given that changing a nato gun to a soviet calibre is also a thing in the games, natoguns are pretty much as viable as their soviet counterparts
wanton arch
you have to know about Ukraine
hallow canopy
to make it understandable, you said nato weapons dont fit the vibe. i think they...
Let's take the Spas 12 and Saiga for example in Stalker 2.
Both shoot fast
Both hit hard
One is reloading slower
And one is more expensive to repair in Master Difficulty.
And it aint the Saiga because that AK shotgun is continously more better then the spas 12
molten osprey
tbf stalker doesnt account that events
wanton arch
did they
outer depot
You’re still gonna find a lot more 5.45x39 and magazines for it than you’re going to find literally everything else combined lol
wanton arch
issue is the merc are not going to there with nothing
i think peopel forget that
they don't go there just to
Become rich by being a scavenger or a stalker
they came in with a mission
reason why some trader can sell nato gun is just
the merc do business too
outer depot
The Mercs are going to use whatever they want or is suitable but there’s no reason why they wouldn’t select an AK sometimes
wanton arch
they sell their " reliable thing"
like tell me how the fuck freedom in triology
has nato gun the most
outer depot
Weeeeeeeeeeed
wanton arch
did we really think the "merc" is a small faction
outer depot
It doesn’t make sense it’s just faction flavor
wanton arch
then that mean you miss the point of the Freedom
outer depot
There’s no reason why you wouldn’t have an extremely eclectic mix of shit in the Zone it’s just more of it’s going to be AKs
wanton arch
.....
outer depot
Now where’s my LR300
wanton arch
the thing is
the merc do business
that mean you can see certain location sell "western" equipments
molten osprey
did we really think the "merc" is a small faction
its just considered that because it aint really a faction compared to the others at all
molten osprey
freedom squad x and y are friends, merc squad x and y dont have to be
wanton arch
like who the fuck send a merc
with no gun
into a zone
and tell me which country in the west do have the right to make AK
molten osprey
also mercs dont have a base which makes them also see like a small factor in the zone
wanton arch
that would be the ukrainian government
but do ukrainian government want the merc
they don't ?
so they come in with Nothing and take down stalker with barehand?
warped monolith
also mercs dont have a base which makes them also see like a small factor in the...
they had a base in cop, no?
warped monolith
don't remember soc/cs but in cop I think they did have a base
wanton arch
so from my points
Being well equiped
Do have a business trading weapon in the zone
those enough to make sense for the zone to have "western" equipment
outer depot
and tell me which country in the west do have the right to make AK
Uhhh Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc. Romania is actually a major source of private security and Mercs IRL.
warped monolith
Uhhh Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc. Romania is actually a major source...
Poland Romania Scotland Albania, Ireland Russia Oman
wanton arch
and their AK part are not compatible to replace to the AK74 the ukrainian has
warped monolith
molten osprey
they had a base in cop, no?
i think it was just that squad
wanton arch
well 7.62
molten osprey
that you give rations to
outer depot
I mean the fact you only have 5.45 AKs and no 7.62 by default is just for game simplification; there’d be a lot of 7.62
molten osprey
thats the thing, one merc squad is a doing that, other merc squad is doing this, but they both arent automatically under the same flag just because they are mercs
outer depot
Yep
Lots of competing mercs from competing sources
They’re cutthroat as fuck
Especially in COP
knotty onyx
thats the thing, one merc squad is a doing that, other merc squad is doing this,...
I think the implication is the mercs all work for the same company. Like blackwater or whatever.
wanton arch
PMC you mean
outer depot
I think again it’s a game simplification
wanton arch
it's a game simplification
hallow canopy
The Mercs are one part of the economy that NATO guns are in Stalker 2
But usually the economy in said location that Stalker 2 is based on has its economy build on the Soviet block weapons
outer depot
By S2 it’s literally just whoever hired them
knotty onyx
PMC you mean
PMC are just modern mercenaries
warped monolith
oh look the western AK 
outer depot
Nah that’s a WASR
knotty onyx
Here’s your cheap Merc loadout bro
Is this pic from r/airsoft?
outer depot
hallow canopy
Mercs or PMC (Private Military Contractors) is one and the same.
They are Hired Gun to do the Job.
That would depend on how well they do it.
Either by loyal terms or on they own
knotty onyx
Airsofters love tacticool AK because airsoft ones don't weigh 13lbs
outer depot
Tell me about it
molten osprey
the think is, as rarely as it happens, mercs can be independent
outer depot
wait why the fuck it look like AK103
It’s got the finest Tapco tactical offerings from 2007
wanton arch
oh
molten osprey
like 5 guys can just take a gun and say we gonna do something for sidorovich and 5 other dudes say we gonna do something for duty leader
a pmc has a contract you have to honor most of the time
outer depot
Don’t forget Moth
wanton arch
i will be honest sidorovich is sketchy
outer depot
Literally a shitter for hire
wanton arch
this fucker sell all type of gun
molten osprey
because the guys who work in cordon get every gun from any newcomer that dies to a flesh
and sid probably just has crazy connections as well
having nato arms for western mercs is a pretty good option for profit
outer depot
Mercs will also hire bandits to work with them
hallow canopy
While Duty,Monolith,Ward,Freedom and others are predictable.
Mercs are all random with the same concept.
You hire someone to do a Job
outer depot
Happens a few times in S2
knotty onyx
Sid has enough clout to make deals with military. He can probably import whatever he wants into the zone.
warped monolith
middle-east
outer depot
It’s a MAC-10 anyways
wanton arch
i mean the mac
it's still western gun
but hey they are bandit
they prob got paid by merc for such a cheap price
molten osprey
its a western gun but its dirt cheap, its used anywhere around the world especially in criminal areas/poor warridden countries
hallow canopy
Mac 10 generally is cheaper than the Uzi
wanton arch
i like how mac 10 is slapped the title of
the criminal gun
like the thompson
or well tommy gun
warped monolith
I think it's even more insane to imagine a compact SMG in .45
you might hit the first shot, but rounds 2-30 are going to the stratosphere
wanton arch
it's meant for vietnam war
molten osprey
if you arent properly trained and used to it at least
outer depot
Well it does have a stock you know
wanton arch
and a suppressor
outer depot
Just nobody ever uses it
wanton arch
the army did not adopt it
knotty onyx
Shout-out to that ar-15 receiver that takes a Mac 10 lower for the trigger group.
hallow canopy
the criminal gun
There is literally a Unique one called "Gangster" shit fires faster than the Uzi lol
warped monolith
I remember it being a terrible gun in CS
wanton arch
funny enough the Mac10 is suppose to
replace m1911
but sadly it's so reliable you still see it in 40k years
warped monolith
and in kf/kf2 it's only decent in the hands of a firebug thanks to the incendiary shots
wanton arch
marskman love it
hallow canopy
Mac 10 should have been used by Special us forces
But was then switched in favor of the Uzi
A Mac 10 being spec ops special weapons is just insane
outer depot
I mean the APS was originally for vehicle crews too
knotty onyx
And like every other machine pistol ever made
outer depot
That’s a fine gun
molten osprey
tbf everytime us forces wanna adapt a small machine pistol it ends with "calibre too small, ground troops use big gun still and we give it to vehicle/pilot crews for space"
outer depot
Legit nothing wrong with the 74U
wanton arch
people hate it
molten osprey
i know some dudes used the mp7 in the middle east but most of them said other guns with better calibre do the job better
outer depot
You know what you’re going to hate more; carrying a full sized rifle around all day
warped monolith
i know some dudes used the mp7 in the middle east but most of them said other gu...
taliban terrorists don't wear body armor, do they 
molten osprey
You know what you’re going to hate more; carrying a full sized rifle around all ...
i knew i aint cut for military when i was playing around with my brothers airsoft m4 and i got tired in the arms after a hour
warped monolith
hehe same
molten osprey
no way i gonna carry a fullsized rifle WITH AMMO for a whole deployment
outer depot
My normal ass AK setup is 11 lbs
warped monolith
went to an airsoft playground one day and my arms were noodles after 2hrs
wet noodles, even
molten osprey
now imagine the 18 yo carrying a m1 garand back then
they dont build us like they used to
outer depot
There’s a reason why most of the time you’re meant to fire from prone or braced
warped monolith
There’s a reason why most of the time you’re meant to fire from prone or braced
meanwhile there was a very weird buoy prototype for soldiers to "stand on water" and fire
I just don't remember if that was a ww2 or nam prototype thing
outer depot
My old Mauser 1891 weighs about 10 lbs too
kindred violet
My dads stg57 is 6.1kg
molten osprey
let me put the m4 on a scale
kindred violet
But it does have a carry handle
outer depot
My AK is 11.5 lbs without a sling which is like what, 5.3 kg?
outer depot
My AR is about 3 lbs lighter lol
It’s kinda wild holding them both in each hand
Dudes with an AR in the Zone
kindred violet
My AR is about 3 lbs lighter lol
Than the stg57?
Yeah no shit, it's not in 7.5 swiss
normal sentinel
I hope they add Glock
golden hazel
I got a rari in my glock
kindred violet
normal sentinel
Think I finished the story they added
It's funny how many genuinely terrible choices they let you follow through on
||Siding with the mercenaries leads to you finding all the camp characters lined up to the wall and shot in the head, story prematurely ends. That's it. Enjoy the 35k I guess lol||
outer depot
Love that kind of shit lmao
normal sentinel
Love that kind of shit lmao
||It's almost on par with accepting Faust's help up where he just drops you to your death||
Agreed though
Not enough games do this
outer depot
Stalker 2 has done a good job making different paths wildly different
normal sentinel
I think that's one of it's stronger points
Your choices actually do make a pretty big difference with how the story plays out
outer depot
People doing a Ward playthrough genuinely miss a third of the game lol
normal sentinel
People doing a Ward playthrough genuinely miss a third of the game lol
Yep lol
I found that out
finite needle
Same with people doing only Spark, because I found out that way
normal sentinel
When there's nothing at all involving the underground factory in Garbage as Ward I went ???
Legit skip over a whole mini-level
warped monolith
It's funny how many genuinely terrible choices they let you follow through on
like getting the short, bad endings in some games
outer depot
I like how you can run Skif the Zone Fanatic or Skif the Zone skeptic or something in between and it more or less all works
I do genuinely enjoy the story lol
outer depot
Brain half mush from psi radiation fans
golden hazel
Delusion enjoyers <:GrokChadGAMMA:978810880009576479>
lofty badger
how are people feeling about the new Stories Untold stuff? started a new playthrough about a week ago and imagine it'll be a while until I get to it
lofty badger
People doing a Ward playthrough genuinely miss a third of the game lol
pretty impressed it's this way because I remember playing Ward and thinking "damn this shit is hella convenient they just Let Me In places no questions asked" so learning you'd have had to do weird alternatives to deal with that is very impressive
outer depot
Yeah again it’s genuinely hilarious how much of a different game ward is lmao
And it encourages you at every turn!
finite needle
Spak is for fun and war crimes
outer depot
All of the characters are charismatic and generally understanding/competent lmao
Except Dalin of course
But that’s Dalin
lofty badger
All of the characters are charismatic and generally understanding/competent lmao
dalin 
lol beat me to it
lofty badger
even as Ward I was begging skif to say Hey Maybe That's Not A Good Idea but no such nuance 😔
outer depot
Stalker has told me one thing through all the games
Never fucking trust scientists
Literally ever
There is not one not-bastard scientist
golden hazel
I hate lumen I hate lumen I hate lumen I hate lumen
lofty badger
I hate lumen I hate lumen I hate lumen I hate lumen
dude the outdoors being overexposed thing is actually so obnoxious in some spots, I get it's meant to mimic the one-way glass type effect but it's actually cranked up like 110x stronger than in real life and just means you get enemies shooting you from God's Rays
normal sentinel
There is not one not-bastard scientist
They were chill in SoC but got progressively shadier with each title
lofty badger
They were chill in SoC but got progressively shadier with each title
grant funding got harder and so they had to start cashing checks from the Regulatory Board
golden hazel
dude the outdoors being overexposed thing is actually so obnoxious in some spots...
Yes and it happens in the blinding darkness too
lofty badger
Yes and it happens in the blinding darkness too
someone tell GSC to give us sunglasses to stop this it could be worth the helmet slot
golden hazel
ong
lofty badger
actually makes me wonder if nvg makes it not happen
I haven't used nvgs cause they weren't in the game last I played
finite needle
I didn't try because usually when you use nvg is because you can't see shit
lofty badger
I didn't try because usually when you use nvg is because you can't see shit
seems like the right situation then
golden hazel
It's probably something like "Now you can't see shit!(green)"
finite needle
You got me there
finite needle
It's probably something like "Now you can't see shit!(green)"
level 1 NVG is kinda like that, level 2 is better
normal sentinel
It's probably something like "Now you can't see shit!(green)"
If it’s during daytime looking out the door / window flashbangs you
golden hazel
If it’s during daytime looking out the door / window flashbangs you
So it's just regular vision (green)
normal sentinel
It genuinely helps at night but if you’re in a bunker / dark room during daytime gl looking towards a door
lofty badger
It genuinely helps at night but if you’re in a bunker / dark room during daytime...
moreso the higher levels or even the basic ones?
Huron was selling level 1s for 30k so they fucking better be good
normal sentinel
I’m using Gen 3, I can’t remember with the lower ones
finite needle
You can get gen 1 for free at least twice
normal sentinel
Pretty sure the main difference between Gen 1 and 2 is the fov
lofty badger
I’m using Gen 3, I can’t remember with the lower ones
I remember in gamma everything short of the 2nd best was basically worse than flashlight
finite needle
gen 3 megamax I know where they are and I found them because that's where I get my gun from
normal sentinel
gen 3 megamax I know where they are and I found them because that's where I get ...
I looked up the code because idk how you’re reasonably expected to solve the puzzle for it
finite needle
I looked up the code because idk how you’re reasonably expected to solve the puz...
Same tbh
golden hazel
lmao
normal sentinel
It’s that nutty vehicle graveyard plate puzzle
untold sail
in the stalker complete edition bundle on steam, the stalker 2 version is ultimate right ?
warped monolith
the banner shows the ultimate edition
but in the product list
it only says "heart of chornobyl"
HOWEVER
the price tag is the ultimate edition.
so yea it is the ultimate ed
untold sail
alright so it is ultimate
warped monolith
mhm. The bundle description even mentions the bonus goodies the Ultimate Edition of Stalker 2 comes with
golden hazel
I love how biblically strong the 1911 is
peak eagle
I love how biblically strong the 1911 is <:KekSkew:1146905259810234368>
Then we get the nightstalker version
finite needle
I love how biblically strong the 1911 is <:KekSkew:1146905259810234368>
As a guy that goes his way to get the Joshua Graham gun only to kill Caesar with it in FNV I appreciate the effort
finite needle
Me rocking that Monolith look (I'm tired of using the spark/duty SEVAs)
normal sentinel
golden hazel
I got struck by lightning and almost died
normal sentinel
I got struck by lightning and almost died
The monolit wills it
golden hazel
golden hazel
Huh
normal sentinel
So, before of after SIRCAA; what's the best moment to do the nex quest?
Nex?
normal sentinel
I ran it after SIRCAA during the Subtle Matter quest
Everything went fine
The only difference is the Mercs you fight are all rocking PSZ or Exoskeletons
finite needle
I was thinking doing it before turning in Extreme Simplicity
golden hazel
I'm doing it during the detention center mission
normal sentinel
Very early but I've got a 1911
The Kora?
golden hazel
Ja
finite needle
Me using the revolver because it's so wrong it makes the gun nuts go ape:
golden hazel
The revolver is peak SKEEFA
finite needle
He was the reason the power lines were gone in patch 1.7
golden hazel
finite needle
Man I like Spark and Scar, but I have a hard time believing Skeefa would side with them over Ward
silver orchid
yes
but
whatever, i recommend to the users of #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting avoid images about the new "artbook" of HoC
The artwork include concept arts about DLC1
finite needle
What, the brain in a jar?
silver orchid
What, the brain in a jar?
Nah, im talking about the new book that is going to be released by dark horse or smth
I already knew of the thingi that i saw, but i didn't knew his visual design, i just had a idea
finite needle
Eh 9 out of 10 the new story is prep work for the DLC
golden hazel
Man I like Spark and Scar, but I have a hard time believing Skeefa would side wi...
Ah yes, the decision of Crackhead vs The Illuminati
silver orchid
Ah yes, the decision of Crackhead vs The Illuminati
finite needle
Well he's ex-mil so both are valid, but I feel like he would pick the latter
golden hazel
If it was just korshunov being the clear leader of the whole operation yeah it'd make sense
finite needle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM_EFryP0PI
"Bro OG trilogy story was peak, new one is slop" the OG trilogy story:
golden hazel
He just hit the legendary strain Ganja was talking about
normal sentinel
Goodwin bro help me
finite needle
I guess the Duty dressup will continue (I never explored this area before so this is neat)
Eh maybe not
golden hazel
Deadly Anomalies, Dangerous Mutants, Monolith AND BANDITS! All of them will stop Deuty on its triumphant workout routine!
normal sentinel
Eh maybe not
Do it for the drip
Game is easy with how bad NPCs are at detecting you rn anyways
normal sentinel
They're pretty decent when they're aggroed properly
Doing that mine mission for the new story was really easy though for instance
You can be nearly in the bandits' faces and they don't see you
finite needle
They have some issues detecting you now, but I prefer it to superhuman senses like before
plus, in GAMMA they've very similar
normal sentinel
In gamma they either have bullshit superhuman senses or are blind as a bat if you're behind them
The worst is the bush cheese
Where they actively know to hide behind / shoot through them
finite needle
My issue of skill was called out when I pointed that I got onetapped by a renegade with a SVU from behind the whole amazon forest worth of bushes
normal sentinel
people glaze Gamma
complain about bullet sponges in S2
what is ISG, Sin, Monolith
finite needle
The GAMMA glaze is unreal, I love it but sometimes I wonder if we are playing the same game
Monos are ok but fighting SIN in the red forest is possibly the least fun activity I can think of in GAMMA
normal sentinel
The GAMMA glaze is unreal, I love it but sometimes I wonder if we are playing th...
Me unloading an entire tube of AP slugs into a SEVA ISG dude's head to kill him
finite needle
Me preparing around 250 Barrikada slugs (that are used to shoot engines out of cars) so that I can two tap Mono exos at point blank in an early game mission:
tacit glacier
"Bro OG trilogy story was peak, new one is slop" the OG trilogy story:
To be fair Lost Alpha history was... Heavily embellished by it's devs.
I think I remember there being a bro story between Ghost and Strelok at the end of the game 
Hilariously enough they removed all Illuminati references in Director's Cut.
Oblivion Lost Remake has a more accurate version of og story draft.
finite needle
Wasn't Oblivion Lost released as standalone some time ago? I seem to remember
sly blade
hello guys, im new to stalker gamma. Any starter tips?
normal sentinel
hello guys, im new to stalker gamma. Any starter tips?
Are you playing Stalker 2 or GAMMA?
finite needle
My starter tip is to ask in the correct channel https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649
golden hazel
sly blade
Are you playing Stalker 2 or GAMMA?
gamma seems more fun, besides Stalker 2 is overpriced
finite needle
This is the Stalker 2 one
sly blade
ah okay my bad
finite needle
Np, it happens often
One thing that bothers me in Stalker is how generally all NPCs avoid roads
tacit glacier
Wasn't Oblivion Lost released as standalone some time ago? I seem to remember
Pretty sure OLR was standalone from the start
To avoid confusion
Oblivion Lost was a mod for Shadow of Chernobyl that added back cut content (emissions, mutants, etc)
Oblivion Lost Remake is a Standalone Overhaul that restores original maps, story and gameplay mechanics from the Alpha builds
finite needle
Yeah, I think it was the last one. I also remember I wasn't too impressed
tacit glacier
OLR is the reason we have one handed bandit version of Sid 
tacit glacier
Who by the way, has a hidden shotgun below his table
finite needle
Broskis the weather is HORRIBLE go inside don't play guitar THERE
golden hazel
His name is Toad <:kekw:1284536544333402143>
Yeah it's Toad
Atika passed me a mod once to replace Sid in Lost Alpha
silver orchid
To be fair Lost Alpha history was... Heavily embellished by it's devs.
I think I...
Loxotron said that Dezowawe Team perceived the OG plot (which of many??? idk) boring, but isn't if like LA plots was good
hallow canopy
Broskis the weather is HORRIBLE go inside don't play guitar THERE
Men do be doing Men things like Men should
Give em a Break
tacit glacier
Something I love about physical versions of STALKER 2 I got is the Zone map
Notice the note near Cordon
finite needle
That's cool honestly
golden hazel
I couldn't get a physical version of HoC Tuah
silver orchid
I need a video of top 5 bild refferences in HoC, i remember that once i read that there a refference to Messer somewhere
finite needle
I wish I had the physical copy. I'm a sucker for Stalker content and I'll be fair, I'm kinda thankful that Stalker 2 bombed the release because after GAMMA it was starting to get too popular for my taste.
tacit glacier
I need a video of top 5 bild refferences in HoC, i remember that once i read tha...
There is a reference to the cut anomaly that appeared in some og Shadow of Chernobyl mods.
Flytrap it was called?
silver orchid
omg
tacit glacier
One of these had a skeleton inside
finite needle
Oh nice. KInda love that Stalker 2 also has "neutral" or non openly damaging anomalies around
IT's something the OGs didn't really have
golden hazel
The hell happened to this dude
finite needle
Lost offline battle, but the director doesn't really bother placing the bodies in a believable manner
tacit glacier
In Lost Alpha it was called "Ameba"
It was an acid anomaly that would basically instantly kill you
I say instantly because the devs put one right in the swamp you get the artifact from for Sidorovich.
It's hidden under the water and deals enough damage to kill you since you have no protection
golden hazel
Yeah I mean I guess he could be more crippled
finite needle
Yeah I mean I guess he could be more crippled
He still has one arm, the fraud
normal sentinel
OLR is the reason we have one handed bandit version of Sid <:kekw:12845365443334...
Wtf is this model lmao
finite needle
I know this place
silver orchid
Wtf is this model lmao
this is OG toad:
the model of OLR 3 is a remake.
dusty dove
new S2 update today?
slim moth
yesterday
slim moth
ig there is a new one today
dusty dove
5.2 gb just popped for me
hallow canopy
Umm what are the Chances of Duty with Exo being in Pripyat?
finite needle
That's some very natural and not really alien colors there
hallow canopy
That's some very natural and not really alien colors there
You in the Red Forest?
finite needle
You in the Red Forest?
Yup
finite needle
Thanks GSC for implementing the jumping mechanic, giants are no longer a bane and a curse to fight against
hallow canopy
Wow
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG
I actually wanted to see where his Story ends,but by god didnt thought he would be this loaded
normal sentinel
Are those the DLC weapons
finite needle
I think it's the Journalist stash no?
late kernel
yes
normal sentinel
Neat
hallow canopy
Are those the DLC weapons
Yep
hallow canopy
I think it's the Journalist stash no?
Yup
hallow canopy
Yup even got one now
midnight walrus
Game is PEAK now.
hallow canopy
Oh yeah I also got one of those, first time I acually get it really
You flexing with a Shiny Rock
I flex with this
Bro the Price on the NVD in Master Mode is insane
midnight walrus
Bro the Price on the NVD in Master Mode is insane
OOF
normal sentinel
Bro the Price on the NVD in Master Mode is insane
Lol, pay up 
normal sentinel
I love htis little easter egg
What does it say
warped monolith
I only understood the first word but it seems to be "stalkers" misspelt as "staakers"
kindred violet
nah it's written correctly
it's just that in the font the a and l look incredibly similiar
there's a slight difference
warped monolith
at least it's not stylized japanese script
good luck understanding "stylized" kanji
hallow canopy
What does it say
I writes "Stalker you arent supposed to be here"
normal sentinel
I writes "Stalker you arent supposed to be here"
Lel
hallow canopy
Lel
Yea the ledge you have to cross on a 10 story building is kind of slightly tricky but not impossible
I also finally got the Saiga Drum mag, but the Journalist stash literally shocked me, I thought you get a final farewell but that is just more then a helping hand
It was his Armour
normal sentinel
The journalist stashes are pretty good
I didn't realize they have a fairly decent story behind it
hallow canopy
Yea kind of bummer that the 4th one next to Clear Sky base bugged out for me :c
The USB Stick I mean
wanton arch
Dat is whole story of the journalist?
hallow canopy
Dat is whole story of the journalist?
||He pretty much didnt survive, but its a small story that did manage to show how even one person in the zone can help you out if they wish to do so||
Question is, was it worth the Ultimate Upgrade for me??
Yes
normal sentinel
||He pretty much didnt survive, but its a small story that did manage to show ho...
||It's debatable since he faked his death once, might have done so again||
hallow canopy
||It's debatable since he faked his death once, might have done so again||
||He is dead in his apartment when he took his own life||
Yea I know,its bit of a shocker, but we must move on and not let all his effort be in vain
golden hazel
You learn what he knew in the project Y ending anyway 
wanton arch
True
normal sentinel
Which ending is the best
hallow canopy
Which ending is the best
Strelok
wanton arch
It's about ||his perspective in general||
hallow canopy
Hands down the best one
golden hazel
In terms of outcomes it's gotta be either Soylok or Project Y
normal sentinel
Soylok lmao
wanton arch
If the zone alive then it's good
golden hazel
Soylok lmao
SKEEFA YOU MUST KEEL THE OLD MAN SKEEFA MY GF (The Zone) WONT BE SAFE IF HES STILL AROUND SKEEFA
hallow canopy
Yep
normal sentinel
Think I'll take the Scar ending over working a 9-5 for the rest of my life
Delusion enjoyers 
hallow canopy
Scar,Monolith (Skif),Ward are all terrible
Streloks is the only one that is good of all them
normal sentinel
Ward ending is kind of cool
Just 1984
They actually do follow through on everything
hallow canopy
Ward ending is kind of cool
||They pretty much manipulate everything and everyone as agents and not as humans||
normal sentinel
||They pretty much manipulate everything and everyone as agents and not as human...
||The price to pay for an apartment||
hallow canopy
||The price to pay for an apartment||
||as with Strelok you just Leave back to your apartment,whitout China Brainwash methods||
Its like one you accept the cookie the other you reject them as if you were on a website lol
golden hazel
||The price to pay for an apartment||
The Stalker who sold the world
normal sentinel
The Stalker who sold the world
Punished Skeefa
midnight walrus
STALKER: The Video Game
golden hazel
Metal Artifact Solid
normal sentinel
Crazy you don’t ever see what Skiff looks like until game end
golden hazel
Just like SoC of Chernobyl
remote eagle
Just like SoC of Chernobyl
entry cutscene 
golden hazel
entry cutscene <:CluelessBlind:1364646541650038876>
Nah cause the real Strelok is actually Leon S(trelok) Kennedy
normal sentinel
https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker2-explaining-gif-25555840
Was that suppose to be strelok
midnight walrus
He came to The Zone to see if people play bingo
golden hazel
And praying that the residents weren't evil this time
midnight walrus
Little did he know……
Real ending he gets zombified and mumbles endlessly about Ada.
Dammit I just died to radiation 😭
remote eagle
midnight walrus
🤯
normal sentinel
Real ending he gets zombified and mumbles endlessly about Ada.
He was a good stalker
normal sentinel
Crows telling you the secrets of the zone
golden hazel
slim gust
@sonic flare come back to wallcraft
midnight walrus
Lmao I just now noticed you can shoot through objects
Killed a bandit by shooting through a some metal
normal sentinel
Yeah thin sheet metal and other junk like plywood is penetrable
normal sentinel
Man everyone I do a task for wants to betray me it feels like 😡
Such is life in the zone
hearty ocean
normal sentinel
Still waiting for the poltergeist fix
golden hazel
Still waiting for the poltergeist fix
What poltergeist fix
normal sentinel
Them throwing stuff through walls
golden hazel
I always remember them doing that
normal sentinel
Was it? I honestly can’t remember if it was a problem in 1.0
normal sentinel
I heard they did a partial fix involving line of sight but idk
golden hazel
SKEEFA IT'S WARDEN PROPAGANDA SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFA
nocturne smelt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1451129193940258866/i...
He looks dead.
normal sentinel
He looks dead.
He was alive chilling
normal sentinel
It might relate to the new content because there’s tools there
Boiler house in Duga
slim moth
nocturne smelt
Boiler house in Duga
I'll check it out a bit later
nocturne smelt
If I had to guess he wandered out past his trigger.
And they probably tied hostility to the trigger itself.
normal sentinel
I imagine he’s meant to be in the basement and only aggros when you go down there
But somehow he escaped
wanton arch
midnight walrus
Hey it’s Strelok.
midnight walrus
B a l d
slim moth
warped monolith
John Ward
wanton arch
Ward ending mean humanity get benefit from the zone ( prob? )
Strelok ending mean the zone stay the same.
I prefer faust ending anyways
warped monolith
Strelok ending mean the zone stay the same.
nothing ever changes
wanton arch
It just the legend cannot be free anymore
💔
But hes a bitch to fight against so i hate him
humble moss
I want a ng plus
wanton arch
Gamma does not have game+
Suffer now
Start a new master difficulty
And conquer the zone again
Stalker
golden hazel
Ward ending mean humanity get benefit from the zone ( prob? )
If by humanity you mean the illuminati then yes
wanton arch
Yeyeyeyeye
The ukranian is the mysterious force that the US really want to know
Only US know the hidden power of Ukranian Government is
Jk
Sircaa def selling shit to the richest (illuminaties) anyways
cold mist
yall think stalker 2 is worth buying after 1.8?
golden hazel
Idk is it on sale
cold mist
yah
golden hazel
Probably yeah
wanton arch
golden hazel
wanton arch
Peak edit
outer depot
hmmm... something is causing memory leaks when I've never had them before
midnight walrus
🔥
outer depot
folded this dood
fluid lake
this patch has been great so far, just an odd animation bug where weapon sprint animation transitions get stuck in "walking" while in sprint speed. A little distracting but otherwise im having fun
slim moth
this patch has been great so far, just an odd animation bug where weapon sprint ...
i thought that was just me
golden hazel
Another annoying bug is when you open the map and sometimes you have to open it again cause it locks your mouse to the map screen
fluid lake
i thought that was just me
Any chance you have changed your fall damage/vaulting/water slowdown/turn radius with mods?
I think I can narrow this down
slim moth
it's just movement speed tied to weight. the sprint is supposed to trigger the running animation but if your weight is past a certain point and your base speed isn't high enough, it'll cause inconsistent switching between running and walking anim
so i have a movement mod that makes my overall movement generally slower, so more than likely it's just that and weight that trigger it.
fluid lake
It seems that this weight threshold is separate from encumbrance then. So it's not something we can fix with cfgs then I take it.
I'll test your theory out real quick
fluid lake
Well. If the issue is low move speed. Just gonna see what happens if I turn it up.
@slim moth well I figured it out.
ObjPrototypes
Player>MovementParams
JumpSpeedCoef
Turning that back to 1 fixed it.
slim moth
huh. interesting.
fluid lake
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
slim moth
youre welcome brother
true yew
How does this even happen?
icy basin
Funni
chilly mantle
stalker 2 is updating, does this mean i can enjoy the new dlc without it breaking 🥺
broken shuttle
Is it worth to pick up on sale now or wait still? I don’t think the upgrade to other editions seem worth it and kinda crazy how ultimate is priced at 100 base. I have a 3070, 5800x, and 32gb of DDR4 Dam
icy basin
Yeah you should be fine
tacit glacier
Still waiting for the poltergeist fix
Now that I'm properly awake
Honestly there are two things they need to fix about Poltergeists
- Them throwing shit through walls (I can confirm it wasn't an issue before)
- Them being aware of your location 24/7, bring back the old "move slowly to stay undetected"
finite needle
If they fixed the crazy spawn rates for mutants in Garbage and Lesser Zone, then I guess that's the only big issue left, with the sinking weapons/corpses? I also have a strange bug where my character is stuck in sprinting animation without consuming any stamina, but a reload fixes it.
I'm kinda in awe that this is all the bugs I can think about right now, IF it's true they fixed the alife spawns (it usually takes 3 to 5 announcements for the fix to actually work)
tacit glacier
If they fixed the crazy spawn rates for mutants in Garbage and Lesser Zone, then...
Hah
The sprint consumes no stamina bug existed for a while now
That being said there is a new state that you enter when stamina is low called jogging
People tested it and nobody seems to know whether jogging is slower than regular sprint or not.
hallow glen
Is this common?
knotty onyx
Was supposed to be fixed in 1.8.1 lol
kindred violet
Hah
The sprint consumes no stamina bug existed *for a while now*
That being said...
Jogging seems slower than regular sprinting at least, but I very much appreciate being able to get places faster now
But it might just be fov fuckery
finite needle
Hah
The sprint consumes no stamina bug existed *for a while now*
That being said...
Not the low stam sprinting, I just can't stop running and can't recover stamina if I stay still, and it doesn't go down either. Like if I stop, I start walking and I keep running. But if I stay still, stamina remains the same as if I was low stam sprinting. Definitely not intended.
tacit glacier
Is this common?
I was going to say "this is stalker 2 chat only"
Then remembered Wild Territory exists in STALKER 2
golden hazel
hallow glen
I was going to say "this is stalker 2 chat only"
Then remembered Wild Territory ...
kinda wish they added respawning Mercs in the sniper nest, make it feel like home.
tacit glacier
If I remember correctly the issue with Bloodsucker numbers is caused by A-Life, ironically enough
Basically, bloodsuckers take over a lair (incode name for places AI can camp in)
Let's say there are 2 bloodsuckers
- NPC's have a hard time killing bloodsuckers 99% of the time so they end up dying when trying to take over the lair
- Bloodsuckers continue living and since they are there their numbers rise
- More NPC's try to take over but get overwhelmed
- Repeat
There isn't an upper limit on how many bloodsuckers can spawn in at a lair when its taken over
Fixing this would honestly be quite simple
- Put caps on how many mutants can be in a lair, based on mutant type:
* Blind dogs: 6-8 a pack
* Bloodsuckers: 2-3 a pack
* Burers: 1-2 a pack
etc - Reduce Bloodsuckers HP pool. They are supposed to be fast and deadly but a glass cannon, their tankyness is what causes the issue in the first place
Result:
- Small rookie stalker squads will try to take over a bloodsucker infested lair and die
- Larger squads will manage to kill off bloodsuckers while likely loosing some men.
hallow canopy
I only see Skill issue amon the other factions for NOT aiming correctly
They have 0 issues targeting and priorities Skif over a insanely fast and deadly mutant
Be it even equiped with a Shotgun that is bascially very deadly to them,they still die
Even with a damn Exo and Saiga they struggle to kill a Bloodsucker
saw yesterday in Pripyat how 1....1 Bloodsucker managed to overwhelm 4 Monolith Exo that were seriously equiped
icy basin
wanton arch
Basically, bloodsuckers take over a lair (incode name for places AI can camp in)...
this is like a simulation of predator vs herbivous when they forget to nerf the predator
basically they don't need to add a cap limit for what mutants
they have to make more stats to that mutants/npc
like they should make few more stats for most mutants
well force the mutants to roam more
forcing it making them the need to hunt other mutants/stalkers for food or some thing
hallow canopy
Might as well have a faction capture Bloodsuckers and release them near a base to wreck havock
hmmm, bet GSC will have this idea and then use it for the future DLCs?
true yew
Didn't realize noontide was this chill
kindred violet
Might as well have a faction capture Bloodsuckers and release them near a base t...
Someone didn't do all the sidequests :)
grim crane
does anyone else expirienced this? game freezes frame after every cutscene if DLSS Frame Generator is enabled
prime shell
so is their fix for artifacts not clipping through terrain making it so they no longer move around in anomalies?
not played a massive amount since that patch, but have yet to see one move
ofc the first one i find after commenting does
rocky agate
Hello, I'm looking for a place to post a message about the Stalker Unlimited mod for Stalker 2, as indicated on the mod's Nexus page, but I can't find that channel...if anyone knows...
nocturne smelt
does anyone else expirienced this? game freezes frame after every cutscene if DL...
I used to have that problem, It kind of fixed itself. The workaround is to keep your game in windowed borderless and when the cutscene starts just tab out so it's in the background. If you have to do a conversation input just tab back in do the input and then tab back out. Not sure why it works but it's the only thing that worked for me.
Probably not the place to do this.
nocturne smelt
Hello, I'm looking for a place to post a message about the Stalker Unlimited mod...
rocky agate
https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1390437561738203337
Thanks !
nocturne smelt
@icy basin @whole schooner #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting message Seems Fishy.
lofty badger
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If it will be possible for you to assist us, we would be most grateful. We suggest that you meet with us in person in Lagos, and that during your visit I introduce you to the representatives of the Nigerian National Petroleum Company, as well as with certain officials of the Central Bank of Nigeria.
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pseudo falcon
I prefer faust ending anyways
faust? dont you mean skiff ending?
wanton arch
the doctor ending
pseudo falcon
the doctor ending
if im not wrong
the kaymanov? is it the right spelling lol
coz thats the first ending i finished then backtracked the save to do strelok ending
wanton arch
kaymanov ending yep
pseudo falcon
gonna do the spark then ward ending which will require me to do 2 separate runs
wanton arch
yeah stick with the begin and im pretty sure you can still do spark run after like many thing
like after the rise of monolith you can still swap path
nvm that is some what tedious
nocturne smelt
It's based on your decision when || Exiting the tube you use to see Strider and turning down Korshunov when they catch you in that comms bunker. ||
kindred violet
I still do recommend a full run as there's some interesting differences early on
kindred violet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
eager solsticeBOT
@quiet yew (felix_1508.) has been banned for reason: Suspicious account advertising shit
kindred violet
duty freedom just reskinned
nocturne smelt
sparks are as bad as warf
I find sparks motivations to be the most reprehensible in the game honestly.
|| They literally want to kill everyone so their consciousness can live on as subtle matter. ||
Pretty fucked
wanton arch
i did not see that part
no as i mean i haven't see the spark reason to be killing people of the zone
nocturne smelt
Oh I just do that because it’s a spoiler. Wasn’t because of what you said.
nocturne smelt
Spark is an extension of Scar. They have been poisoned.
wanton arch
the Delusion
kindred violet
|| They literally want to kill everyone so their consciousness can live on as su...
Well ||if you have watched NGE it's essentially the human instrumentality project||
deep mica
scar isnt the most mentally stable person out there
nocturne smelt
scar isnt the most mentally stable person out there
Doesn’t excuse that fact it’s what Spark is working towards the entire game.
deep mica
||the shining zone crap is just a tarot girl interpretation of the ccon||
kindred violet
Doesn’t excuse that fact it’s what Spark is working towards the entire game.
||no one is trying to excuse anything ||
deep mica
Doesn’t excuse that fact it’s what Spark is working towards the entire game.
never seen it as an excuse tbh i just think they went a bit overboard with scar and his cult following
kindred violet
It's just frankly a fascinating story to experience
deep mica
though theyre just the ward antithesis
nocturne smelt
never seen it as an excuse tbh i just think they went a bit overboard with scar ...
Ccon is a crafty master.
deep mica
5 different layers of mind control
||even strelok fullfills the ultimate ccon goal in his ending||
nocturne smelt
Yup. They definitely like to stack things in their favor and leave little room for failure.
nocturne smelt
||even strelok fullfills the ultimate ccon goal in his ending||
This is the ending I want to see explored more.
wanton arch
||even strelok fullfills the ultimate ccon goal in his ending||
nah
deep mica
This is the ending I want to see explored more.
||bitter aftertaste because he just lets everyone rot and live on in a delusional state||
nocturne smelt
||bitter aftertaste because he just lets everyone rot and live on in a delusiona...
Yeah. That’s why I want to see it expanded on. I want to see what unfolds after. It seems to be the most likely cannon ending since it keeps and zone and all major players in motion.
deep mica
idk if theres much motion if he acts as a controller with his zombie minions for the entire zone
nocturne smelt
I mean more that they still exist.
kindred violet
Make the faust ending canon 
deep mica
fuck faust i wanted to kill him since duga
deep mica
It’s the least finite option imo.
ward ending leaves room for rebellion and a zone wide conflict
they could go in that direction as well
but then again thats the conflict they set up in the entire game anways
duty and freedom but on steroids
topaz sinew
Hello everyone,
i really want to buy Stalker 2, but i'm worried that's maybe stil a bit too soon for it.
What i would really like to know, which will be the biggest factor for me to buy this opus, is to know if Stalker 2 feels like a real Survival game (with mods), like Gamma does ?
Do i need to eat, drink, sleep like in Gamma ? Can i buy and cook all sort of food, can i craft and loot all sorts of meds like in Gamma ?
I would imagine that Vanila Stalker 2 doesn't have all that, but maybe some modders manage to make the experience close to what Gamma offers on that "survival" level ?
deep mica
Hello everyone,
i really want to buy Stalker 2, but i'm worried that's maybe st...
do not expect a gamma like experience with S2
its not a milsim survival game
topaz sinew
do not expect a gamma like experience with S2
I know that Gamma is full "sandbox", so i'm not hopping the same here for S2, but only discussin the survival mechanics . It's not close at all ?
deep mica
S2 is in theory also a sandbox as soon as you leave the starting area
but it doesnt have the crafting and resource management of gamma
the loop isnt there
late kernel
good
topaz sinew
argh....i thought some modders had cracked the code and managed already to create a whole bunch of meds, food receipies etc...
late kernel
You won't get Gamma 2 unless we get the source code of Stalker 2
but microsoft won't allow it
deep mica
but microsoft won't allow it
weird that theyre against that but allow games to take kernel access with denuvo and other trash
topaz sinew
what a shame, i love the extensive list of thigns we can craft and loot in Gamma. I really would love the same for Stalker 2
late kernel
Stalker 2 doesn't play like a hardcore survival game
deep mica
what a shame, i love the extensive list of thigns we can craft and loot in Gamma...
someday your grandchildren will enjoy it
late kernel
never did their older games, aswell
deep mica
!gamma 2
finite needle
Stalker 2 plays like CoP 
deep mica
yeah s2 throws food and ammo at you
topaz sinew
damn....
deep mica
theres no reason to craft with how abundand everything is
topaz sinew
i like the stress of not finding enough food, ammo, meds etc...
so you gotta be smart and strategic about your decisions
finite needle
Stalker 2 is about the stress of having the worst of humanity shoot at you 24/7
late kernel
I like playing games to have fun and forget about the real world
deep mica
yeah not in s2
finite needle
also pseudo sci-fi mumbo jumbo soviet nuclear magic in the middle
tame lodge
Stalker 2 is about the stress of having the worst of humanity shoot at you 24/7
More like the best
Everyone is an olympic shooter
late kernel
If you come into Stalker 2 expecting it to play like Anomaly/Gamma, you're setting yourself up to be disappointed
finite needle
You can be a horrible person and a gold medal olympic athlete
tame lodge
True that
deep mica
dont get me wrong s2 is very fun in its own way and has lots of exploration and side content, but its not gamma
anomaly puzzles are fun too
topaz sinew
If you come into Stalker 2 expecting it to play like Anomaly/Gamma, you're setti...
i guess i'll just pass then...
It looks so cool though...what a shame there isn't more "survival mechanics" into that opus
late kernel
Sad that a lot of people's first exposure of Stalker is in the form of boring, repetitive freeplay mods that barely resembles stalker
finite needle
i guess i'll just pass then...
It looks so cool though...what a shame there isn'...
Well for that you have GAMMA don't you?
deep mica
i guess i'll just pass then...
It looks so cool though...what a shame there isn'...
master difficulty requires you to not die and be somewhat strategic
so theres some resource management
kindred violet
!gamma2
fallen iron
finite needle
I honestly don't find GAMMA much harder than Stalker 2, but then again I've played GAMMA for like 1 year nonstop back in the days
topaz sinew
Well for that you have GAMMA don't you?
i know, but S2 is objectively more polished graphically. So i wanted to get a more "modern" experience.
deep mica
I honestly don't find GAMMA much harder than Stalker 2, but then again I've play...
yeah you just need to be careful in the hobo phase
after that youre a walking tank
late kernel
Lumen and Nanite makes the game look garbage, its not polished in the slightest lol
finite needle
Anomaly shows its age though, especially in the models and animations
no amount of reshade can fix that
topaz sinew
well it looks more detailed at least. Inside buildings are furnitures, objects etc...it's not just empty hallways everywher
warped monolith
but microsoft won't allow it
Microsoft? Try Epic
they're not gonna give out the source code for their main money maker
deep mica
s2 is the nr1 game on epic?
i remember a time where gears of war was their money maker
finite needle
Pretty sure he's referring to the Unreal Engine
warped monolith
s2 is the nr1 game on epic?
I mean the Unreal Engine lmao
deep mica
mb
guess what if they gave the sources to that modders would be 1000 times more succesfull with it
late kernel
They're not gonna share the source code of UE5 otherwise the engine would actually be optimized
finite needle
Imagine that
tame lodge
No you have to ask for UE5 engineers to give you ted talks and workshops
deep mica
100 bucks per hour
tame lodge
Probably a low estimate
deep mica
this includes the non premium version lectures
warped monolith
I speculate epic burns a LOT of money with their weekly free game giveaways and paying for Epic exclusivity on games (and yes, some people still do this - look at the upcoming Lords of the Fallen 2)
so they need to earn that money back
with fortnite and licensing out UE5 to devs both big and small
and unfortunately, whether we like it or not, UE5 is a very popular engine
deep mica
its pretty intuotive work flow wise from what i heard
imagine of the community got an easier tool at hand
we need some insider leak scandal asap
warped monolith
what we need is good competition
currently, the most used engines are unity and UE
EA should've done more with Frostbite and licensed it out
same with the Avalanche engine used in games like Just Cause
finite needle
CDPR tried to prop their own engine, but the result was Cyberpunk 2077 so that went out of the window
warped monolith
yea
finite needle
by their own admission impossible to work with
deep mica
C77 was rigged from the start
warped monolith
almost no one wants to use their own proprietary engine anymore because it's too much work involved, takes too long (and too much money)
finite needle
And results may vary, we're kinda back in the times where the only engines for FPS were like the Doom engine and Build
Jokes aside, hasn't Unreal Engine been the standard since like forever?
wanton arch
well not really ?
each company has to design their own engine back in the day
and Unity
were the true shit
knotty onyx
almost no one wants to use their own proprietary engine anymore because it's too...
And game companies seem unwilling to employ a team long enough to make an engine lol
deep mica
each company almost always had their own
fallout 4 was built upon the morrowind engine
lofty badger
What does Richter see?
warped monolith
each company almost always had their own
the bigger ones, yeah. but even that is slowly changing
kindred violet
fallout 4 was built upon the morrowind engine
Not really no
wanton arch
and then you see Unreal Engine started to use by Triple AAA game
Deus Ex
Splinter Cell
knotty onyx
fallout 4 was built upon the morrowind engine
Ship of Theseus moment
wanton arch
which is
back in 2005
and no game company are willing to buy Unreal engine 1/2 that much
UNTIL 2006
grim crane
is there a quick way to do ingame check of the mods that are loaded into the game correctly?
warped monolith
at some point CryEngine was a bit popular, as well. even a MMORPG used it (Aion iirc)
kindred violet
Ship of Theseus moment
Not even really ship of theseus
deep mica
at some point CryEngine was a bit popular, as well. even a MMORPG used it (Aion ...
only because of crisis being the benchmark for a while no?
wanton arch
the date where unreal engine become popular is when 2016 where unreal engine 4
is free
open source too
or 2014 they went free ?
i need to check
yeah it's 2014 when it went free
wanna hear the funny
unreal engine 5 was created in 2021
grim crane
best to check is load into the game and do what a mod does
that would be awesome idea, but i installed a modpack, that requies new game, and i want to check somehow if all mods are loaded correctly, before progressing too much
wanton arch
and this is prob the best game
by unreal engine 5
idk how the fuck most newer UE5 game fucked up performance that
much
warped monolith
idk I remember people shitting on remnant 2's performance when it came out
wanton arch
that would be awesome idea, but i installed a modpack, that requies new game, an...
that is the difficult one because they have not implement that much
warped monolith
only ue5 game that came out well optimized since release is arc raiders
wanton arch
yeah.
i mean tbf the review were like
12700k with RTX 3080
hitting ultra graphic at 4k but got around 40 fps
late kernel
Who even plays at 4k seriously?
wanton arch
i mean the reason why most game run like shit are made up by many factors
fucking shitty codes
well you cannot deny real time automatic lighting called Lufeces
being ass
and the last is
mf game devs thinking everyone LIKE DLSS/FSR/XESS
fucking vaseline smear on my screen
late kernel
- ghosting
wanton arch
that too
deep mica
mf game devs thinking everyone LIKE DLSS/FSR/XESS
no they like it because they dont need to optimize anymore
why do that if you have an ai tool doing it for you
wanton arch
i like how people just slap AI because it's short
despite it's just a better program that does not learn ANY SHIT
because i keep GETTING SMEAR AND GHOSTING
deep mica
dlss is also one of the reasons why we got served so much lazy slop for the past years
grim crane
any1 here playing with collection "Cinematic & Immersive ZONE" ?
deep mica
is there a secret s2 patch released today?
wanton arch
should be
ancient musk
Decided to try out s2 again after several patches. I forgot how dogshit this game looks with all upscaling methods that are not dlss