╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[tacit glacier]

Source Tru3th from #╟📸stalker2™-media

[icy basin]

Eh, the right is what my outside looks like rn

[tacit glacier]

I know it's realistic
But at this point I'm wondering if we lost some of that visual clarity and artistic touch old lighting methods granted

[summer vapor]

I wish those hills were bald, as it was before

[tacit glacier]

[wanton arch]

Surely first playthrough at master difficulty isn't a bad decision

[shadow stirrup]

man the fight with faust fucking SUCKS

[hallow canopy]

Same here after 1.7 came back just for that difficulty to try
Its fun

[wanton arch]

Reason why it has so much data because it's jammed with high res + low res texture
Jammed with high poly and lower poly counts model

What they have to do is release something like helldriver did

Like fucking resident evil 2 was 1.2gb but got optimized to 64mb ( cut down in models texture and line of codes )

[icy basin]

Helldiver 2 had its files duplicated, rather
A 22GB game duped until it became 153GB

[wanton arch]

Bit insane

Pretty sure the 22gb one is somewhat in beta

[icy basin]

It is but still

[icy basin]

#🤖🐛🦑helldivers message
Here
The reason it was so large is because "industry standards"

It's gonna be really funny if S2 is so heavy because of industry standards

[wanton arch]

Yep still in beta

[icy basin]

Yeah but it's public and you can opt in

[wanton arch]

True.

Tbh the best way to strip down s2 is every single time you download it

You have the option to download what texture / voice line / model mesh

Would be so peak

I dont need an EN voice pack

[hallow canopy]

That a brightness mod?

[tacit glacier]

Why ask me? The user who posted is named below the pics

[hallow canopy]

[somber crow]

damm idk why but capping the game at 48 fps make my game runs very smooth, it allow me to to set nearly all options on high -epic on a 2080 s in 1440p , now the game feels really good, the weird part is the gaming idk why but feels smoother at 48 than 50, in both case framerate capped feels solid, weird

as a note: the game has a disgusting bug with the mist setting on interior: on medium has weird behaviour like this one , the best thing to avoid this is setting the mist on ultra

[hard sable]

I'd imagine it's because 48 is exactly 80% of 60, since your monitor is probably 60hz, your pc will be able to pace the frames more evenly with the refresh rate

[fallen iron]

@visual gulch

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[slim moth]

my ears

also

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-with-a-ghost-stalker-stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-chernobyl-gif-14178445264273297810

this fkin guy ^

[somber crow]

it's weird, my monitor has 250hz refresh or 256 or something like that

[tame lodge]

the aimbot accuracy on these npcs is something for sure

[west moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/975199248431865966.webp?size=128

[viscid oxide]

Will we ever see this i wonder

[golden hazel]

[tame lodge]

wow i didnt know they released a mobile version

[tacit glacier]

Is missing a "Winner winner chicken dinner" splash screen

[warped monolith]

[modern temple]

Regions to be added with DLC; CNPP, Limansk, Generators, Iron Forest, Dead City, Radar and all X labs

[warped monolith]

when are we getting playable Skif's house

[normal sentinel]

Never ever

[finite needle]

Say what you want about stalker 2, but I don't think there are many things that feel better than unloading the whole fucking Sledgehammer on some mutant in a split second

and stalker crashed shortly afterwards, thanks

[normal sentinel]

Sledgehammer is insanely fun to use

I'm still trying to figure out what rifle I want to use for lategame, I was using the G37 but it feels painfully weak against the post-SIRCAA enemies

[finite needle]

I am partial to the Kharod, mostly because I can mount the holemaker under it

[normal sentinel]

I've been playing around with the EMR but idk, not sure if it's the move

Ammo is somewhat rare / expensive

Didn't realize I blew through 40k buying ammo for it lol

[finite needle]

M701 is my favourite sniper, but is expensive as fuck

clusterfuck is a cheap alternative

otherwise, I like the vintar but it's personal preference and I know it's not really good late game

[normal sentinel]

Is it only able to use the special .308 rounds? I noticed it didn't want to cycle to regular .308 when I found one

[finite needle]

Yeah I think they reworked ammo some time ago, pretty sure it uses only AP now

[normal sentinel]

Yeah that checks out, wasn't sure if it was bugged lol

[broken osprey]

hey, guys just dropping in to ask a question. If i wanted to like use quick saves for my first playthough since i'm new. Is there a way to do that?

[finite needle]

If you mean in GAMMA, this is the wrong place (stalker 2). Anyway, remove YACS from the launcher and you will remove the bonfire saves and can youse regular quicksaves.

[broken osprey]

oh sorry

thanks though

[finite needle]

Huh yermeneyev gives you a high capacity G37 magazine once you complete his side quest about getting the stuff to make a psi suit. Better than nothing.

[normal sentinel]

The guy in Icarus?

[finite needle]

Him, yes

I remember that he charges you a lot for a regular SEVA, I hope it has changed a bit, at least now he gives you a free attachment

attachments are relatively easier to find now

[normal sentinel]

It's 40k for the ecologist suit w/ psy upgrade

Still kind of expensive

[finite needle]

It's not good at all since you can get both the freedom and duty seva for free very easily

[mild crown]

Damn there's literally already a Stalker Anomaly 2 mod (sort of) https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1495?tab=description

It adds the entire looting and repairing system from Anomaly. Let's hope this means we can get Anomaly 2 (and then Gamma) in the near future 👀

[finite needle]

Let's first get Stalker 2

we're like 80% there

[normal sentinel]

Yeah I have a soft spot for the ssp-99 from SoC

Thought it was the coolest thing ever back when I played

[mild crown]

Oh yeah 100%.

I honestly think that a lot of what Stalker 2 will have once it's really finished, is stuff that had to absolutely be added as mods for Anomaly and Gamma. I think it won't even be too terribly difficult to make the next Anomaly once the game is done

Since a lot of the content is already implemented vanilla by the devs

[finite needle]

The new nerd suit is cooler imho

[mild crown]

All the suits in S2 look incredible

Also there's a "Craftable Zone" mod which adds the entire crafting system from Anomaly. I think a year from now you could make your own modpack to simulate Gamma, seriously. So cool

[normal sentinel]

The 100 series?

[finite needle]

exactly

it feels very spaceship futuristic, I like it.

[normal sentinel]

Still need to get my hands on one

Idk if there's any reason to use it over the SEVA-I though

[finite needle]

None, the SEVA-I is better overall

but if you preordered you can get an upgraded one for ""free""

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-scar-laugh-gif-12786287499780353633

[normal sentinel]

Is it even possible to get an exosuit before the point of no return?

I haven't gotten that far in the story yet but heard a lot of the exos are past it

[finite needle]

you get most of them before the point of no return

2 are given to you as part of story progression, even

[normal sentinel]

Neat, I’ll have to keep progressing then

On the mission after the first one involving Duga

[finite needle]

Gonna be a while before you get some exos, but you will eventually

[normal sentinel]

I got right up to SIRCAA on release but didn’t finish it because the game was notoriously broken post SIRCAA

Really cool segment now that I’ve done it

[nocturne smelt]

You can get an exo immediately after leaving the lesser zone if you know where to look.

[fresh crown]

Hello Stalkers, does anyone know any solution to unbearable stream output when playing gamma? The game itself doesnt lag on the gamer pc, but the output and in the streaming pc screen it does.

[nocturne smelt]

You would have to ask in one of the Gamma channels. This channel is for Stalker 2.

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649

[fresh crown]

ohh sorry.

[hasty rover]

yo can somebody invite me to the clikrad discord server? His link is not working for some reason

[normal sentinel]

Does Spark actually get a base with services if you sided with them?

[nocturne smelt]

Not really? There is a tech in Zaton but it's temporary if I remember correctly.

Not sure about late late game. I would assume the same tech will be found in Pripyat somewhere.

You may still have access to the corp one. I'm not really sure.

Spark is the one faction I can never bring myself to align with.

[normal sentinel]

Yeah, Scar is just unhinged

[orchid zealot]

yeah how about we don't.

I'd like STALKER 2 to have some good mods before we get a clapped out anomaly in stalker 2.

some of these people are so anomaly brainrotted they can't fathom NOT putting in anomaly stuff in stalker 2

[golden hazel]

SKEEFA WE NEED TO RAID ICARUS AND STEAL THEIR COPPPER WIRE SKEEFA, FOR THE SHINING ZONE SKEEFA

[warped monolith]

word

[normal sentinel]

Lmao

[warped monolith]

many of the complaints about stalker 2 missing "core features from stalker" are people too gamma-coded to realize they were never vanilla game features to begin with

[orchid zealot]

actual truth

I want to see story mods first, but I know the community is so brainrotted from anomaly that we're probably not gonna see any. It's just gonna be OMG WE CAN TAKE APART OUR GUNS BY THE BOLT OMGOMGOMGOMG

like I'm trying out OxA for instance, and it's cool, but ngl, games better without it lol.

[warped monolith]

we're gonna get sandbox-y free-play mods and then item bloat mods before anything, I bet.

like 'lootable zone' and whatnot

ffs

[orchid zealot]

[nocturne smelt]

The joy of mods is people can choose what they want or not.

[warped monolith]

tell that to gamma and the first "M" losing its meaning over time

getting less and less "modular" with each update

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah but Gamma itself is a collection of mods made in one persons/a group of peoples vision for what they want the game to be.

People can put together their own set of mods to make it the way they want.

I do agree it became less modular over time... But no one has to choose to play Gamma in the first place.

[warped monolith]

non-argument, since playing videogames is optional in the first place

[nocturne smelt]

It wasn't really an argument more as in just pointing out Gamma is an overhaul mod. The base game would be anomaly.

It's like choosing not to use OXA Prototype when playing stalker 2.

I guess to be fair Anomaly would be an overhaul mod also, Base game is COP I think?

[rotund mantle]

Call of chernobyl technically

And misery

Its a cool history chart as anomaly is last days spiritual successor

[nocturne smelt]

Ah, Never seen this before. So COP is the base game but there were way more steps involved.

[rotund mantle]

Yeah its pretty neat to see how its evolved over the years I gotta try call of misery and last day still

[tired flicker]

definetely stalker 2

[warped monolith]

[tired flicker]

wish UE5 update will allow us to add more visual clarity, which its still lacking to stalker 2

[tired flicker]

unless you're in urban location or indoors, it all looks the same sometimes

[nocturne smelt]

Is that a thermal?

[warped monolith]

looks like it

[slow cave]

Erm

A life was

[blissful thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfAmxKOWxOY

[icy basin]

Look inside
Misery bloat

[golden hazel]

[slim moth]

Good 😄

And in a way, makes sense. It takes more effort and tools to making quests. So why not get freeplay, sandbox mode. especially in early phases

Like im sure if people could put in their own quest mods they would, but they literally can't with it's limitations. so it makes sense to focus on what you CAN do for the time being or wait for it to have what you need.

now if there are mods to bitch about, it's the FURRY ZONE shit

[icy basin]

Do you not want a modpack that is universally praised but uses a protogen mod as its prime dependency that cannot be removed?

[normal sentinel]

What is that lmao

[kindred violet]

Stay mad

[slim moth]

Here immortalmo can tell you all about it

[icy basin]

look it up
specifically requires you to have an account and disable NSFW filter
I know what you are

[slim moth]

FURRY ZONE mandatory Base mod for GAMMA 2

[trim iron]

I have a very visual mind.
When you say "furry zone" I can already picture the bloodsuckers...

[icy basin]

Also I will now require users to not mention it again

[icy basin]

Oh no don't worry
It's just posters and graffiti and shit

[trim iron]

I'm not sure that makes it any better

[icy basin]

Now drop the topic

[slim moth]

Sorry sorry

[trim iron]

Nice weather in the zone today

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-game-gn-chat-gn-good-morning-gif-15916286457191491792

[normal sentinel]

[wanton arch]

Merc never balling

[kindred violet]

Damm, I thought y'all just meant the protogen skin

Mercs never be balling, but rather bawling

[tacit glacier]

I present
More bloat https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1825

Legit just

a hundred of images

Showing same weapon different skin

[kindred violet]

We love bloat

[knotty onyx]

Are you even gaming if you don't have access to 100 ak variants that are <1 standard deviation different from each other?

[wanton arch]

I dont think we need to be like tarkov where i can buy ak74 or ak74m or ak74s or ak74ns or

Despite i can mod ak74 into any other variant of ak

[golden hazel]

Mmm delicious 100 flavors of the AK74MNS-U-74M

[knotty onyx]

This is the sacrifice we make to the modding gods. We need to rely on dogshit for 10 years until someone gets frustrated enough to make something better (like how FNV players suffered Project Nevada until stewieAI dropped his tweaks)

[wanton arch]

I rather wait for oxa proto to support more guns

I aint downloading direct port from anomoly

[knotty onyx]

I hope OXA guy has the motivation to keep it up. That mod will be great once it's in a less janky state.

[tacit glacier]

I love the fact I went from
"It can't be that bad" to

"HANS GET ZE FLAMMENWERFER!"

[wanton arch]

I would not say the mod is janky but it could be just me getting used to other game modding scene

[wanton arch]

Idk why you want a gooners mod in a game that you are shooting random shit

🥀

Idk man

Just search up whatever and beat it

[knotty onyx]

The weapon pda thing is very impressive and it's nuts that it works at all. But for me it didn't work correctly like 15% of the time

[wanton arch]

The first few installations are like never work

I mean it's a heavy mod and we are still in the stage where the game is getting updates

It will break

[icy basin]

I am tempted to contact the artists featured to inquire about their consent on the inclusion of their art in the mod
But also we should really drop the topic of the mod

[tacit glacier]

Yeah
Yeah

Legit can't find any other words for a response
One thing I did not need to learn this morning.

[wanton arch]

I like how i know the mod before all of yall mentioned

I should learn blender again and try to remodel certain gun

[modern temple]

Regions will be added with DLC; CNPP, Generators, Limansk, Iron Forest, Radar and all X labs. If anyone wonder

[summer vapor]

Generators already exists

Personally, I'm not interested in new locations if there's nothing to do there

[modern temple]

they will add more regions but not new missions xD it's not make sense

[summer vapor]

Most likely missions in the Call of Duty style

[somber ravine]

diffrent colour blob

How's mod support work on GOG version same as steam one?

[tacit glacier]

GoG uses mod.io
Steam uses Workshop
Other than that it should be similar

[normal sentinel]

Where’s this from?

[modern temple]

from my ass

[wanton arch]

Such a crime

[hallow canopy]

Well got the new GPU in and tried stalker 2 for like 5 min

All was on High
And Stalker 2 now looks even more phenomenal

[wanton arch]

What it's

[rare gulch]

Hey guys is Stalker 2 worth it yet? How is the modding scene? Has A-Life been fixed?

[wanton arch]

Has to compare

[robust turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ht5r9eOhSs

[wanton arch]

A-life is real but the balance between mutants and stalker is finicky

[rare gulch]

Groovy I will check this out.

[wanton arch]

God if people compare s2 to anomoly i swear to god

[robust turret]

I personally wait a little more, but this video gave me a good overview of where stalker2 is right now compared to release

[rare gulch]

How's the modding scene? CLIKRAD had video showcasing mods saying improvements to A-Life etc. I assume they're all obsolete with the new update?

[robust turret]

I'm also currently checking that out, idk

[rare gulch]

Copy that

[rare gulch]

Why?

[robust turret]

Seems like theres a lot of mods and some mod collections that get updated regularly, check out #1309526198833119303

[wanton arch]

No one should compare S2 to anomoly

You should only compare it to the triology

Simply anomoly is not built by GSC (original nor current)

• anomoly has so many years so it's way more refined / mods refined

[rare gulch]

Awesome will do!

[rare gulch]

Very good point

[wanton arch]

So if you are asking about modding screen

Nope we are not there yet

But for a simple story and random life doing funky thing

Yes we are there

( tho we are missing a few features from the triology)

Freeplay and Faction War

(We do have mod that allow freeplay)

[rare gulch]

What do you mean by free play?

[wanton arch]

Freeplay is where you can create your own character that can start with random loadout/faction

Location spawn too

Basically no need for story

But that is for anomoly

The triology freeplay is after story finish

I prob going to spoil here

[rare gulch]

Wow! I'll look this up

[summer vapor]

Someone playing Unlimited + Lootable Zone? Are they compatible?

[shadow stirrup]

about the liquid rock artifact, how do I know which one is real?

[tired flicker]

Did it finally update?? If so time to restsrt save

[prime shell]

anyone know a fix for the bed bug? can't interact with one as i apparently have ailments, which i far as i can tell i do not. only got OXA overhaul and dynamic weather installed

[nocturne smelt]

Are you hungry? Do you have radiation?

[kindred violet]

Try searching for psi radiation bug

[blissful thunder]

yes it did

[tired flicker]

Literally checked last night and it still wasn't, was it mod fix or did we get the actual 1.7.1 patch?

[prime shell]

thank you

[blissful thunder]

its for 1.7.1

idk if it added much

[tired flicker]

We talking about the same 1.7.05 patch disguised as 1.7.1 or we got an actual 1.7.1?

[blissful thunder]

idk check it out urself

just spreading the good word

[slim moth]

psi radiation bug

shit don't use that

but yeah, that's what it is

[prime shell]

yeah found that one but seems to be a few issues with it, not sure where i got psi radiation even from mind, had the bug even before i left lesser zone

[slim moth]

i feel like there should be a console command to remove PSI or something

[nocturne smelt]

Run into a Bayun or something?

[slim moth]

I also have the same bug. Idk when i got it. haven't slept this playthrough yet

just truckin' along

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-griffin-family-guy-cant-sleep-eye-bags-insomnia-gif-17776688

me not the game.

jk

[nocturne smelt]

I'm trying to think of areas in lesser that even have psi. I'm coming up flat.

[prime shell]

nah, just the usual bloodsuckers, dogs, boars, poltergeist and rats

[prime shell]

guess i will just have to start chugging meds

[prime shell]

none that i can think of either

[nocturne smelt]

did you try the save load trick?

[prime shell]

master playthrough, so no clue when i got it

[nocturne smelt]

ugh, That would be a downside of limited save I did not think of.

[prime shell]

though i have enabled saving now as OXA+master is a bit brutal

[slim moth]

im at like almost 250 deaths and supposed to be on my way to wild island

[nocturne smelt]

Do you have a console enabler?

[prime shell]

yeah, simple BP modloader

[nocturne smelt]

XApplyEffectOnPlayer VolumePsyPointsRemovePermanent

Not sure if it removes the ability to get psi entirely or not.

May need to test it.

[prime shell]

yeah almost 90 having just entered garbage really

[prime shell]

thank you! will try it out in a bit as well, go to that psi anomaly not too far from garbage

[nocturne smelt]

OXA Proto can be brutal for sure.

[slim moth]

MHM flashbacks for sure

[nocturne smelt]

I actually find it harder than mhm on the human fight side.

[prime shell]

MHM was so good, hope to see it back someday

[nocturne smelt]

Mutants are def easier on OXA though.

[slim moth]

except still easier when it comes to mutants

yup

[prime shell]

yeah, OXA is harder i think, i don't remember npcs just looking and you and you're dead

MHM mutants were fine once had predator+darts

one shot most of em

but early on just dying constantly to like 2 dogs

[nocturne smelt]

Controllers were absolutely brutal on MHM

That damn Psi aura,

[slim moth]

oh yeah. there were a couple missions you had to be cheesy and janky af to pull off the win

[nocturne smelt]

That damn cave in Cordon gave me a hell of a time

[prime shell]

Yeah the controller in the water treatment place was fucked

[prime shell]

Pretty sure I just fled from that one and never went back

[nocturne smelt]

I would lure him to the long hallway and lay into him so he stayed on the otherside.

[slim moth]

I cheesed TF out of ||Strelok|| on mhm. I had to cause he had a million health points

[nocturne smelt]

was the only way i could figure it out.

I only ever got to just past Sircaa. Restarted so many times testing new versions.

[slim moth]

MHM was true masochism playing all the way through. after the story mode switching from the mhm vet to mhm standard felt wayyyyy more balanced

[prime shell]

Yeah pretty sure I lured to the same hallway and naded etc

[nocturne smelt]

Actually, Now that I think of it. I think my last playthrough I had gotten to Pripyat.

Never did last mission though.

[prime shell]

Never completed my mhm play through, I had just got to pripyat and a patch dropped that fucked it all and the modder stopped work on it =(

[nocturne smelt]

I played with campfire saves also. Wish they would add that to master. Such a nice feature.

[slim moth]

mhm's campfire saves was

[prime shell]

My master play through I am trying to follow gamma rules of only bases, missions and campfires

[slim moth]

Shay has a campfire/base save mostly set up, just not as many campfires to save at compared to MHM's

[nocturne smelt]

You don't really realize a lot of the campfire locations either until you have to rely on them for saves. Like the one Northeast of Azimuth.

[prime shell]

Yeah stuff like that just makes you pay more attention to the world, it is nice

[slim moth]

i won't be using campfire saves for story mode. that's for sure

little too much bullshittery happens lmao

[prime shell]

I wouldn't mind a resident evil esq save system, but instead of ink you need bedrolls or something to save at campfires

[slim moth]

Token saves i'd be fine with too. but oh gosh that'd be too much like.. gulp gamma

smite me

i said it. I want a gamma feature. im NOT AFRAID ANYMORE

https://tenor.com/view/not-afraid-afraid-im-not-afraid-you-dont-scare-me-im-not-afraid-of-you-gif-12533875

Apparently GSC likes craftables and lootables to give it a fat shout out sheeeeeeeeesh

[nocturne smelt]

It's a good mod, Just not willing to give up OXA Proto for it right now. Hopefully we get a compatibility patch when 1.7.1 drops.

[rotund mantle]

Imagine if GSC had that mod as a baseline feature on release lol

[slim moth]

yeah they should be able to come up with a patch soon

[rotund mantle]

Never seen that big of a message for anything

[slim moth]

"""""""bloat""""""""

[kindred violet]

Ah yes, bloat

[nocturne smelt]

GSC pulls a Bethesda and comes out with a supreme ultimate edition with it baked in.

[rotund mantle]

In that case I hope mod author gets kickback from sales

[slim moth]

if they do this ^ then it'd be fine

[nocturne smelt]

I'm not sure how that works from a legal standpoint. I would assume GSC still owns the rights to anything designed with their SDK but I'm not 100% on it.

But I do agree the mod author would deserve some form of compensation.

[slim moth]

yeah, really the only way is to pay extra for the mods

which i don't mind donating to modders when i can.

[prime shell]

Any open world game without crafting seems mad to me

[kindred violet]

It's just not that kind of game

[slim moth]

i think getting mad at the concept of a optional crafting mod is weird

[prime shell]

Hmm?

Saying it's mad to me the base game doesn't have it

Gimme all the crafting

I love trying to do pure craft runs in gamma

[slim moth]

uh oh

You use the subject matter word again

[prime shell]

=D

[slim moth]

how dare you endorse GAMMA

don't you see where you are

[rotund mantle]

Im used to in other mods aswell lol

[nocturne smelt]

I think GSC did a decent job as a follow up to the trilogy. Optimization, bugs, and general a life problems aside. It feels like a stalker game imo.

Anything else was never going to be apart of it, But that's why mods exist.

I'm just happy they are at least supporting the modding scene.

[prime shell]

I love the game, it is way more than I expected it to be

[slim moth]

buying stalker 2 my intention was never "Man this game is going to be awesome vanilla"

[prime shell]

They got the feel of stalker and that was all I was hoping for

[nocturne smelt]

Agreed, But I think a lot of people saw some of the QOL changes and thought "Man this game is going to be like Gamma." And that was never going to be the case.

[slim moth]

vanilla - no """"""""BLOaT""""""
modded - optional """"bLoAAt"""""""""

[nocturne smelt]

I'm personally not adverse to bloat when it's my choice to include. Forced bloat is an issue and I wish companies would stop doing it.

[slim moth]

[prime shell]

lul

[slim moth]

"the way i play my single player game is better than the way you play YOUR singleplayer game"

some fuckass mentality

[nocturne smelt]

"You've ruined the essence of the game!"

[slim moth]

i paid 70 dollars for it. Im gonna make it worth it

[nocturne smelt]

I'll tell you what, I wouldn't have 700+ hours in it if it had to stay Vanilla.

[prime shell]

love the game, loved my first playthrough, could never do a 2nd vanilla playthrough

if only because i find it so stupid that every stalker ends up in exoskeletons alone

[nocturne smelt]

Is this still a thing?

Drove me nuts the first time I played.

[prime shell]

pretty sure it is still default, OXA changes it

[slim moth]

i'll buy s2 again once mods are available for ps5

play in my bedroom

[nocturne smelt]

The game is too static imo for repeated playthroughs. Sure you can make different decisions and get a different ending but everything else is absolutely static.

[slim moth]

force Zone knowledge on me wife

[nocturne smelt]

I hate knowing where everything is.

[finite needle]

Fair, GAMMA loot system is superior for that reason.

[nocturne smelt]

Agreed, Wish I had more of that system in S2. MHM was close with completely randomized stashes.

[prime shell]

why MHM was so good, basically removed/changed all static things and even unique weapons where rng from caches and not quest rewards

[nocturne smelt]

But having to find the stash location before it has loot would be peak.

In vanilla, being able to bumrush a kharod, NVG 3b and cuirass exo right out of the lesser zone is just dumb.

Randomized door/safe codes would be nice too.

[prime shell]

yeah main issues with it are the staticness and lack of feeling progression through the zone itself, like red forest was not as scary as it should be

in red forest i wanna feel like a chimera is hunting me constantly

but lesser zone felt more dangerous then it

i hope more stash types get added as well, the backpacks, duffle bags and blue crates are a bit obvious... gimme some random pipe

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, They shrunk the Red Forest way too much. Half of it you can't even explore because if you walk into the tree line there goes your mind.

[prime shell]

indeed, but thankfully amazing people are doing amazing things with it and will only see my 600hrs rising drastically throughout the years

[orchid zealot]

but is mol1t a lead dev or just a community manager?

that being said, craft UI sucks, and the lootable zone stuff is actually pointless, but I digress.

I saw someone say "you can pick and choose what you play with" that's great, except that doesn't work all that well with these games. The issue is, there is no picking and choosing, most mods will be centered around anomaly slop, and people are gonna be trying to recreate anomaly slop in HOC, freeplay mods, big gameplay mods, will all mostly follow anomaly slop because the community is now permanently degraded and ruined because of that horrid standalone modpack

CoC was an absolutely fantastic thing, and someone decided not only to port MISERY, but then someone else thought "Man what if we took a janky port of a CoP mod ontop of this barely developed thing and made it even jankier"

CoC felt like DMM, it was for the most part pure, and a good stepping stone into making a "stalker game" what you wanted, but now it's all just anomaly slop.

but i'm sure most people here don't even know what DMM is/was

[nocturne smelt]

People make those things because that's what they want in their game. Just don't use it.

[orchid zealot]

Doesn't promote meaningful conversation, but once again, that idea in itself is great. Until you realize everything will be built around half-baked freeplay mods and it'll eventually reach a point (like it did with anomaly) where a duct-taped and bloated modpack will become the standard and the cycle repeats.

Once again, I want to see story mods come back.

But because of anomaly slop, we likely won't see any.

Give me priboi story in HoC

[nocturne smelt]

I assume by duct-taped and bloated you are refering to Gamma?

[orchid zealot]

gamma is a whole other discussion, but no still talking about anomaly.

anomaly is still technically a modpack.

[nocturne smelt]

I'm aware of that. Just not sure what you are refering too.

[orchid zealot]

fair.

[nocturne smelt]

I mean, People make the things they want. People play the things they want. Mod authors are busy making X so they are not making my Y is an interesting perspective. If that's what you are meaning.

[orchid zealot]

You're just repeating yourself here My complaint is "the modding community is ruined because of anomaly" which it absolutely is, but the western side of the stalker community always been a little stinky

regardless. I'm excited for the mods that'll come out of HoC, but I don't want it to be reduced to "OMG ANOMALY 2 XDDD" I'm tired boss.

[slim moth]

When questline modifications come to SDK i don't see what would stop people from making their own story mods. You have people already working on their own story mods. Point of No Return and im sure others i missing.

[orchid zealot]

I want good stalker mods.

[orchid zealot]

point of no return? haven't seen anyone talk about that.

nor have I seen it on nexus/moddb. is it on its own page or something?

[slim moth]

If you don't like free-play or sandbox, just wait for sdk to come out with quest tools

[orchid zealot]

My problem isn't with freeplay. It's how perverted anomaly has made stalker, that's my issue. lol.

Freeplay is great when it's done right (aka CoC)

[nocturne smelt]

If enough people share the desire to have something more inline with what your are asking for I'm sure they will come about.

The modding community is kind of limited by the SDK tools at the moment so I'm not sure how realistic it would be at this point.

Anomaly based mods are prevalent because it's popular. People enjoyed what the game was I guess.

[slim moth]

its a WIP bc of limited tools from SDK

[late kernel]

Reject freeplay mods, embrace story mods like Spatial Anomaly

[orchid zealot]

TRUE

[slim moth]

I was playing True Stalker yesterday which is dope

[late kernel]

If anything that freeplay mods need, is an actually interesting storyline

[orchid zealot]

I'd rather see STALKERSOUP return for HoC sooner than I'd like to see anomaly slop.

[orchid zealot]

impossible.

you think anyone in the stalker community can write a storyline to save their lives?

and doctorX ripped too soon to make something decent.

[late kernel]

People are porting Call of the zone storyline into Old World Addon for Anomaly

[orchid zealot]

I'm hoping the SHOKER team moves production to HoC but unlikely.

I haven't seen any new updates for SHOKER3

It's actually really sad, SHOKER 3 was looking insane.

how far does map editing in the SDK? that's one thing I'm interested in learning for HoC.

I wanna open up the zone more personally. add new interiors, etc.

[slim moth]

not available i don't think

[nocturne smelt]

I think part of the issue is that Anomaly became the mainstream Stalker game for a while. It was a lot of the communities first dip into the world. So people think that it is the norm.

[orchid zealot]

That is 100% the issue, and that's one of my problems with it. I just wish Anomaly wasn't the norm, there's a reason why "play the trilogy" is often said, cause anomaly shouldn't be your first stalker experience, it's for the most part, nothing like what stalker actually is.

[orchid zealot]

is it not? I watched a tutorial on the world editor, or is it just primitive right now.

[slim moth]

Its just very primitive.

[nocturne smelt]

I agree with this 100%. Can't really base the expectations of a franchise on an overhaul mod.

[orchid zealot]

gotcha, unfortunate. I'd love to add new points of interest and fill out the world a little more to be morte explorable.

one of my main gripes is that there's a lot of empty uninteresting spaces.

[slim moth]

same. i got the kit downloaded for when the second phase or whatever the next phase is drops

[orchid zealot]

I get not every inch of the map has to be interesting, but there's so many closed buildings.

[slim moth]

I just wanna play around see what i can do. it's just very limited and most stuff you have to do weird work arounds that im just not familiar with at all

[nocturne smelt]

Closed building, Empty areas where nothing really spawns. It is a pacing issue for sure. Post Sircaa it basically just becomes a linear story.

I think part of the issue is theres nothing really interesting to find at a certain point. And it's even worse if you've already played the game before and know where things are.

Oh cool and new building with 3 medkits, a sausage, and 4 bandages. Happy I explored that place.

[slim moth]

medkits insta heal making every battle's incentive to just spam medkit

[nocturne smelt]

As for the free roam stuff. I don't think I would ever play with the main story disabled. I would enjoy more side quests, dynamic stuff, and a reason to keep exploring.

But not having an end goal and exploring for the sake of exploring is boring to me.

[gleaming relic]

Is there a way to fix corrupted saves?

[nocturne smelt]

Corrupted in what way? Like it just won't load?

[warped monolith]

[slim moth]

once kyne's peace building mod is done, you could have a little home in the zone to slowly build

[gleaming relic]

yeah all the previews are static

[slim moth]

turn it into Stalker: EXTRACTION

[nocturne smelt]

Hmm, I'm not sure but that's strange. Not really sure there is anything you could do if they are not loading at all.

Is it a vanilla playthrough or with mods?

[nocturne smelt]

Yuck lol

[gleaming relic]

No worries, just about to get expert tools as well lol

[nocturne smelt]

OH

Your on Gamma

[slim moth]

i've been playing Stalker: Belarus and it's a co-op extraction. Surprisingly really fun

[gleaming relic]

ye

[nocturne smelt]

Try asking here https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649

This is for Stalker 2

[gleaming relic]

oh my bad ty

[nocturne smelt]

I'm so over the extraction genre.

[slim moth]

I'm very late to it

i like Road to Vostok and SPT. Into the Radius was especially cool

[warped monolith]

SPT is unironically the best version of Tarkov

[slim moth]

oh for sure

[warped monolith]

Arc Raiders is great too, almost zero gear fear and not every player shoots on sight
and the pve enemies are creatively designed

[nocturne smelt]

That's the mod version and not the included one right?

[slim moth]

Arc Raiders is surprisingly addicting

[warped monolith]

SPT is an external, moddable version, yes. Much similar to Anomaly for STALKER.

you need to own Tarkov, but SPT allows you to play completely offline and has a lot of mods.

[slim moth]

and you can co-op with SPT

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah I stopped playing Tarkov well before any of the single player methods became available.

[warped monolith]

Tarkov's official PVE mode is not only a paid DLC but it's also still online and doesn't allow modding

[slim moth]

i was so close to buying it then realizing SPT was still more beneficial due to mod support

[nocturne smelt]

SPT sounds interesting though. Didn't Battlestate try to shut that down at one point?

[slim moth]

with the new official updates it runs a lot smoother and maps are pretty much overhauled

[nocturne smelt]

I feel like Tarkov is another major influence on the modding scene. A lot of mods are dedicated to moving systems from Tarkov into stalker.

[slim moth]

It had very innovative features for sure

[finite needle]

People is more interested in free tarkov / russian weapons than the zone, nothing new

[late kernel]

I want to see more unique anomalies and mutants, not more tacticool guns

[warped monolith]

it's still unavailable for 1.0, right? they changed something in the code that just completely borked SPT and they have to rewrite most of it

[slim moth]

i want to make a bird/bat mutant

[nocturne smelt]

I wouldn't mind both.

[warped monolith]

bro same
and unironically Stalker 2 did a good job with the new anomalies

[late kernel]

I want that gravity defying anomaly that lets you climb up buildings like in Active Matter

[slim moth]

i'm on 4.0.7 which just updated from 4.0.6 not too long ago. lot of mods are catching up and stuff but it seems to be working for me

got FOV mod and characters that don't make me look like a thumb

[prime shell]

my first experience after default Anomaly was Escape from Pripyat, enjoyed it a lot. also remember when i first saw the Tarkov trailer way back, i was like ooooh, is this potentially a new stalkerish game?! never played it in the end

[slim moth]

some inventory QoL mods so shit stacks instead of taking individual spots

[slim moth]

i remember thinking it was gonna be a stalker game too

[nocturne smelt]

I could never get into EFP. I'm not sure why exactly. Something felt off with it for me.

[warped monolith]

and what version of tarkov is that for?

[slim moth]

oh oh i gotcha lemme check

[finite needle]

Efp doesn't really feel likes Stalker anymore imho, even less than Anomaly

Just vibes tho

[prime shell]

feel like the guns were generally just way out of place

[orchid zealot]

EFT SPT is rip now won't be updated to v1.0

But eft release has been fantastic.

[slim moth]

0.14.1.0

not 1.0

[warped monolith]

[slim moth]

yet

Still, whenever i played SPT 6 or so months ago it's way different than what it was and performs better

[orchid zealot]

No they already said spt 1.0 will not happen for a long time

If ever

They're gonna be working on 0.14 for awhile

[slim moth]

i have no research on that, so i'll take your word for it

[orchid zealot]

It has something to do with a lot of code changing with v1.0 eft release

[slim moth]

probably makes it shittier anyways

[orchid zealot]

Lmao not at all. It's probably the best eft has been for a long time

I don't think it's v1.0 ready by any means. But for a v1.0 release it's still leagues better than before

And we can finally beat the game

Permanent wipe and seasonal wipes now.

[slim moth]

I still got it downloaded. I played a few rounds of 1.0. It's fun till you run into someone who has 20000 hrs in it

[orchid zealot]

Lmao. Yeah bjt that is with any game tbqh

[slim moth]

get gud sigh

[slim moth]

if PVE didn't cost extra i'd try it.

or i'd play that instead of online.

I'll play online with homies. fuck solo

[late kernel]

1.0 version, but the game still cannot handle heavy server load, still has desync issues, still unoptimized, looks worse than before, still the same shitty barebones AI, still a miserable experience (where the fuck is the visual rework?)

Why do people play Tarkov again?

[slim moth]

what you don't have 256GB of ram in your pc? tf?

[late kernel]

No but i have a 1TB SSD dedicated for the Stalker 2 SDK

[slim moth]

me too lmao

can barely play the level editor

or im just doing it wrong, probably lmao

[orchid zealot]

Tbf EFT had an insane amount od new players. This was a very unexpected load. Servers been fine for awhile now.

Desync is largely gone. I don't think I've seen people complain about that for a long while now. I certainly haven't experienced it. And I played since 2019.

It's AI for sure. I love it. It's fun

I got 2 4tb ssds

[kindred violet]

I mean people who play proper EFT are special anyway

[warped monolith]

"unexpected" for BSG only, I bet.
1.0 came with a Steam release... of course it would have a flood of new players

[kindred violet]

Huge masochists

[slim moth]

YEAH! while playing master mode OXA proto

[late kernel]

They had like a dozen wipes to figure out managing server loads lmao

[orchid zealot]

Yeah nah master mode oxa proto is brutal

I've been dying instantly

From.a bandit sniffing in my direction

[nocturne smelt]

I think the draw is that the risk increases the tension which in turn increases the gameplay

[orchid zealot]

Not to this scale though

[tame lodge]

the insane amount of new players in question

[late kernel]

Nowhere near insane lmao

[warped monolith]

that's probably 2x as many players as they have on the BSG launcher

[orchid zealot]

Steam still uses bsg launcher lol

[warped monolith]

you know what I meant

get yo pedantic ass to ground zero

[orchid zealot]

Reeee

Don't make me go back

[warped monolith]

get kollontay'd

[orchid zealot]

It's all shooter born in heaven on gx

Gz*

[slim moth]

i actually really love GZ

[nocturne smelt]

Master mode OXA Proto has been a blast. At like 70 deaths and I’m just getting to wild island.

[orchid zealot]

It is a good map but post lv20. It's cancer

[slim moth]

Damn. Im at like 250. i have been doing dumb shit though lol

im just about to head to wild island

[nocturne smelt]

I just use range to my advantage most of the time.

[slim moth]

i bet if i ditched the three line i'd probably have a better time, but killing with it is so damn satisfying with RDA

[nocturne smelt]

The damn flashbangs at Diode’s workshop prob killed me 10 times by themselves.

[slim moth]

oh oh

now i know what you mean

[nocturne smelt]

I use the aks-74N with a 4x like 90% of the time.

[slim moth]

Dude I find so many dead npc's around the flashbangs

[orchid zealot]

Also with oxa proto why does converting guns drop condition to 50%

[nocturne smelt]

Was thinking about swapping to the 416 now that I finally got an Acog.

[nocturne smelt]

I wondered the same thing. It’s giving you a completely new item. But it does that when you modify the weapon anyway. So not really sure.

[slim moth]

i can't even repair my shit

[nocturne smelt]

Oh no lol

[slim moth]

i use lube and it disappears

[nocturne smelt]

Wait what?

[slim moth]

Like sometimes it'll stack, but then it won't let me highlight a gun and overtime it'll just go away.

so i just spawn money and pay 10000 for repairs 🤷

[warped monolith]

gotta make the game harder

[nocturne smelt]

You’re using the widget right? Hover over item until its durability appears, use the oil, then press the corresponding number in green at the bottom of where it displays the weapon.

[slim moth]

i did read that. maybe i was going to fast for it register? i was gonna try todayt

[nocturne smelt]

Sometimes you need to load a save before it will recognize the durability.

[slim moth]

I'll keep this in mind

[slim moth]

thinks it's because if you take a part a weapon and add a new piece you need to lube up the new piece or something. idk man lol ReAlIsM

[nocturne smelt]

You need to experience the jam.

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/jam-ghazzy-ghazzy's-jam-gif-15859170509808565679

so does adding Lootable/crafting break/ctd stalker with oxa proto or is it just localization

[nocturne smelt]

I think someone said it CTDs

[slim moth]

fork

[nocturne smelt]

I have not tried it myself.

[slim moth]

i will test it

i made it in game with all of them. now lemme find loot

or boars. i found boars. and they ate me

[tired flicker]

I just started an OXA prototype run yday, are you using looting and crafting mod? It finally got updated to 1.7.1, but not sure if it's compatible atm

[warped monolith]

at least it doesn't STD

... I'll see myself out

[normal sentinel]

It doesn’t seem too bad, idk how it was at launch but post SIRCAA you have some loners in sevas, freedom / duty / mercs start using Bulat / PZ armors and ward patrols start having a few exos

[tired flicker]

NVM still ctd

[slim moth]

weird

do you have the localization merge mod

[finite needle]

After SIRCAA everyone had an Exo, which was wild if you went to Cordon late game, looked like fucking Stormwind in the end cycle of a WoW expansion

[normal sentinel]

Yeah that’s def not how it is now

They must have changed it

[slim moth]

i haven't had that in a looooong time

[normal sentinel]

I’ve only seen loner patrols using some trenchcoat armor and the occasional seva

I also noticed the Corps faction starts appearing post Sircaa for whatever reason

They patrol legit everywhere

[finite needle]

I've seen a LOT of Ward presence pre SIRCAA

before they weren't really there

A thing I noticed that wasn't mentioned is that they added a lot of new audio in the game, including some old classic

[tired flicker]

It feels like it's a little bit too active in general atm, hoping for more a life tweaks and a slight reduction in pops for 1.8

[finite needle]

I agree that there is too much action, I've seen very few guarded posts/areas and a lot of fights. Looks very similar to CoP, where alife was sort of "guided" toward showing you conflict or action.

[tired flicker]

Problem is as well, when in "offline" they sometimes don't fight and don't avoid danger areas atm from what I could see, leads to some funny situations when they get rendered in

[normal sentinel]

Yeah there seem to be a few hotspots that get crazy

[slim moth]

speaking of hotspots

[warped monolith]

[slim moth]

i think this is my first time actually seeing groups of people even near here

[normal sentinel]

Lmao

Is that the swamp near Wild Island?

[slim moth]

yeah i gotta get through that fucking building

im trying to test mods and play the story at the same time

and sometimes i hit these brick walls i gotta sledgehammer through like an entire IPSF SQUAD IN A ABANDONED BUILDING IN DA MARSH

[normal sentinel]

I don't think I had to deal with anyone there when I passed through lmao

If you want to see a crazy location check out Yantar production complex, every faction in the game loves to converge there for some reason

Also seems to serve as a bandit spawning factory

[nova lake]

thank god it didn't phew

[slim moth]

ik they probably would've fucked it up

leave it to the modders

[wanton arch]

i hate this spot dawg

always 2 fucking blood suckers

then some play through it drop 20 dogs and ward division in there

bro

it's so fucking random at the time

it's like only one single play through that i got the standard experiences

[slim moth]

my a-life director is off so stuff doesn't spawn within 100 meters anymore (with the exception of story/scripted bits) so shit just be going on

[wanton arch]

other are really just warzone between ward and mutants

some path has pesudo giants

https://tenor.com/view/дрон-фпв-фпв-дрон-порошекно-потужно-gif-15072178957579138572

[normal sentinel]

I’ve yet to see any pseudo giants spawn outside of story stuff

[wanton arch]

it should be a rare occasion

as they should not like Gamma where their spawn are spiked to the point that you can see a swarm of pesudogiants in rostok

[tacit yew]

they made pseudogiants what bloodsuckers used to be

[normal sentinel]

Checks out, I’ve yet to see any randomly

[wanton arch]

if that is the case that mean i can do a lottery

i found it on the swamp before meeting faust

there is one spawning when you try to leave the swamp

but yeah i encountered 2 pseudo giants in the swamp before

[normal sentinel]

So far I’ve seen the one during SIRCAA, the collared one in red forest, the one leaving the swamp which is scripted too

[wanton arch]

those def are scripted

[normal sentinel]

I avoided the swamp one because I was encumbered

[wanton arch]

the SIRCAA raid

ok i missed that one in the red forest

[normal sentinel]

It’s during the barkeep quest

Finding the lost freedom squad

[silver orchid]

HoC really needs story mods, could be a great way to make fresh experiences on this map, for now i just know that Point of No Return it's planned to have a new storyline but nothing more about story mods or freeplay mods with new stories.

[silver orchid]

We don't know if shoker it's alive tho, and funfact: his account it's on this server

[wanton arch]

Freeplay story would be so peak dawg...

imagine option to choose what phase and what you can be...

become the monolith before the Duga shutdown

become the Ward before the raid on Factory ?

i forgot

[silver orchid]

the map modding on HoC for now is like "edit trees, edit terrain", not adding areas or make remodelations of pre-existing locations

[wanton arch]

or prob become noontide after strider got most member on the island

[normal sentinel]

It’s a shame noontide is mostly filler

[wanton arch]

yeah

[slim moth]

they did noontide dirty

noontide deserves better

that's who the fuck i wanted to side with till shit fucking hits the fan

[wanton arch]

or you could become "loss monolith" before strider found you

or during strider noontide creation where you def still see Duty on rostok

peak.

[silver orchid]

how about port of trilogy-story mods to HoC

[normal sentinel]

Wonder if the dlc is going to be an add-on or a separate story entirely

[wanton arch]

IMAGINE

[slim moth]

more than likely will happen

[wanton arch]

could work but they ahve to redo more shit

[normal sentinel]

Trilogy on the new map would be funny

[wanton arch]

like no way you have to defend the barrier at whatever place

[normal sentinel]

Locations are all sort of shifted around

[wanton arch]

they would try to make it more sensible tho

they have too

[slim moth]

100% without a doubt atleast SoC or CoP gets remade in 2 by someone

[wanton arch]

(twisting the story of the Triology)

[normal sentinel]

CoP is such a small scope

Makes more sense to do SoC

[wanton arch]

Clearsky

[slim moth]

It's usually the easiest to work with.

from what i can tell

[wanton arch]

the hundred miles of walking

[silver orchid]

I see potential on port mods like Path in The Mist, Spatial Anomaly or Ghost of The Past

[wanton arch]

either they twist the Legend

or they just making story about an observer watching the 3 legends walking around the map

idk

[silver orchid]

Imo is easier make a SoC adaptation, SoC mainplot don't lost much sense on this map

[wanton arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s0zNK9JnNQ

idk i like this dude

[slim moth]

ive been meaning to watch that

[wanton arch]

it's pretty good

[slim moth]

get a proper lore dump

[silver orchid]

i don't see how Clear Sky would fit 100% on this map

[wanton arch]

yup that is the worst part

[silver orchid]

im ok with more retcons, a "new version of CS" in-lore

[odd fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-16845298572699382358

[wanton arch]

tbf the Clearsky in S2 are so dif in the triology

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/willow-kit-tanthalos-i-shouldve-told-you-that-sooner-you-know-i-should-have-told-you-sooner-ruby-cruz-gif-27380522

[warped monolith]

wtf shay lost the modder role

[wanton arch]

wait shay can modder change the spawnrate

[warped monolith]

I guess it only applies for folks who mod gamma I guess

[wanton arch]

of stalkers or mutants

[slim moth]

[wanton arch]

I NEED TO KNOW

I WANT MORE

[slim moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuukHoUHjgY
I'll do it for you shay..
WHOAAA holy shit

[wanton arch]

ain't no way

[silver orchid]

i expected a return of Clear Sky or smth

[wanton arch]

would not

[normal sentinel]

Anomalous dugout is great

[silver orchid]

like, u can't let in nothing a "mmmm, at the end of CS a group on the base abandoned the place with Beanpolev"

[wanton arch]

i rather expect the Spark to Re-build the Swamp

and some how the Lebedev did not die

[orchid zealot]

Clear sky doesn't really exist in s2 though

[silver orchid]

I wonder what happened with suslov, beanpolev, cold and novikov

[normal sentinel]

Spark is kind of the spiritual successor

[silver orchid]

these should be alive

[orchid zealot]

A successor yes.

[wanton arch]

the hidden story spin around CS in S2 is a bit dif from the Triology

[silver orchid]

or atleast HoC imply that would be alive

[orchid zealot]

But CS as a faction roughly died off or mostly died off with the emission right before SoC happened.

[normal sentinel]

Yeah they take a few twists and turns but it still generally stays within the boundaries

[silver orchid]

I have the theory of that beanpolev and suslov are paywalled by two DLCS, and that one would appear in one DLC, each one

[orchid zealot]

Lmao

[wanton arch]

Possible...

[orchid zealot]

The first dlc is tackling duty v freedom iirc.

Which is probably the same one that includes limansk

[normal sentinel]

I think the first DLC has something to do with Limansk too yeah

[wanton arch]

FACTION WAAAAAAAAAARRR

[silver orchid]

yes, it is

[wanton arch]

it should

[normal sentinel]

Hopefully the faction war means they'll keep improving the A-life system

[orchid zealot]

I assume cause limansk was a poiny of conflict for duty v freedom.

[wanton arch]

mostly you may see actual Merc base from there

[normal sentinel]

It'd be cool if you could do more with mercs, was bummed out to see they're mostly a plot device but I guess that's how it has been in the trilogy as well

[silver orchid]

I mean, there enough thingis with beanpolev and suslov with thingis of the DLCS as for paywall em

[wanton arch]

ye

[orchid zealot]

Mercs have alwasy been a background thing

[normal sentinel]

Yeah

[orchid zealot]

They're just hired guns. Nothing more.

[normal sentinel]

The most you interact with them is in CoP

[silver orchid]

Suslov for example has smth to do with the DLC of ⛄, he did smth in lore that is related to that

[normal sentinel]

WORM FOOD

[orchid zealot]

Scar is the only merc that has an actual story.

[slim moth]

I have craftables/lootables working with OxA Proto confirmed

[normal sentinel]

What does OxA do?

[orchid zealot]

Eugh

[wanton arch]

Scar is a Merc but not the Merc Faction

[silver orchid]

Leshiy don't exists i guess

[orchid zealot]

Gun mod mainly.

[wanton arch]

Oxa Prototype make meds around the map useless

it make the gun upgrade more simplified and impactfull

prob the best part of it even

[orchid zealot]

How is the original upgrade system not already really simple? Lmao

[normal sentinel]

RIP Leshy

[wanton arch]

it's that simple but having more impactfull upgrade that allow you to swap parts if you don't need the gun anymore is just PEAK

[nova lake]

there prob are less of em

[silver orchid]

Tejas Stalker had a theory for years that at the end was canon on HoC about leshiy

[wanton arch]

it's less upgrade per gun btw

[normal sentinel]

What was that?

[wanton arch]

not upgrade even it just a swap to change gun function

[slim moth]

I still need to confirm if they are spawning on the map. may require new game. not sure

[wanton arch]

i still don't like lootable zone + Craftable zone

it just not fitting the game without few mods change on how you grind the game out

it's not worth to get items and sell it to repair or buy

[silver orchid]

||That Leshiy killed fang and did thingis for avoid problems||

[wanton arch]

not worth to craft any because it take so long

[slim moth]

i mean, crafting feels mostly useless since you can buy most things, unless you have a brutal economy to make crafting necessary

[wanton arch]

the biggest issue is prob you get loot through item spawn

not by caches

or stash

[slim moth]

You get both, tf?

[wanton arch]

you do but it's so minimal

[slim moth]

You get them on bodies, in stashes, in the world

[normal sentinel]

I didn't catch on to that, by the time I played HoC I forgot half of the characters from the original games besides Strelok, Scar, Sidorovich 😂

[wanton arch]

i need to retry it tbh

but the last time i play is like

not worth to pick items up and try to craft

[tired flicker]

Hope so, will be able to kill more of the most useless faction in the whole series - duty

[wanton arch]

too hard to craft + buying thing is still cheap

[shadow stirrup]

how could you forget one of the sexiest man ever layed foot in the zone

[wanton arch]

either change the craft to be easier or make buying thing harder

or do both

[silver orchid]

Ur mind it's programmed by Evgeniy Grigorovich for don't think on if the thingis that u see are actual nostalgiabaits or no

[slim moth]

i don't really craft, but the lootables are there for money in my games economy

[wanton arch]

sweet spot will hit

i mean you should be able to craft and sell it

[orchid zealot]

I don't think that makes much sense tbqh.

[wanton arch]

it just you cannot even CRAFT

crafting too hard

buying is too easy

[shadow stirrup]

It's a stretch but it does make sense imo. Everything checks out

the goat anomalous dugouts video convinced me at least

[orchid zealot]

Fang died from a merc ambush though in AWH.

[normal sentinel]

Who is that?

[silver orchid]

Anomalous dogout with the theory of Tejas Stalker

[shadow stirrup]

Hermann, but they killed his aura in S2 along with many more

[normal sentinel]

Lmao

Yeah Hermann really changed from CoP to S2

[silver orchid]

in the defense of this thingi

[orchid zealot]

It's even a flashdrive in the trilogy that talks about fang dying to some "neutrals" most likely mercenaries.

[slim moth]

I get what you mean, completely. I feel like someone hasn't really built a economy/loot/overhaul that is centered around Kynes Crafting and looting yet.

[normal sentinel]

Then again, going from dialogue screens to fully voiced / motion capped characters really changes things

[wanton arch]

if shay touch it

[orchid zealot]

Here we go

[silver orchid]

ISKRA/Spark according to the sparkbros let the ecologists thingis by see that the ecologists aren't gud boys

[orchid zealot]

Building around the slop mods.

[slim moth]

brother

IT'S OPTIONAL

[shadow stirrup]

||leshiy is a merc, strelok also mentions some bandits iirc, those are the two bandits in limansk. they go back to AWH with leshiy(merc) and ambush fang||

[slim moth]

Get over yourself jfc

[odd fjord]

heh?

[wanton arch]

Will you try to balance Lootable+Craftable zone

https://tenor.com/view/on-my-way-on-my-way-hololive-kanata-on-my-way-on-my-way-to-beat-you-up-omw-to-beat-you-gif-459867787866626480

[warped monolith]

why so defensive over a shitty mod

[odd fjord]

no noooo

not like dis

[wanton arch]

yeah i would not either

[orchid zealot]

Ah I forgot leshiy is a merc in Clear Sky.

[shadow stirrup]

leshiy has a loner outfit but if you talk to him you'll see that he is actually a merc

[odd fjord]

theres a difference here hha

[wanton arch]

GRAH

[orchid zealot]

I haven't touched CS in awhile.

[odd fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

dont worry

you arent the first

and wont be the last

[shadow stirrup]

he joined freedom in SoC didn't he

[wanton arch]

i mean i know the hassle

[orchid zealot]

Yeah

[shadow stirrup]

right path

[orchid zealot]

Nah freedumb trash faction

[wanton arch]

at least they are chill

[shadow stirrup]

being a stalker is all about freedom, be a proper stalker; join freedom!!!

or something like that haven't played CS in a while

[wanton arch]

Despite i don't fucking know how they keep surviving that long in a sense

[orchid zealot]

Mercs and Military are the best factions

[wanton arch]

idk funded by the Mercs and the ecologist

hired by the Ecologist whaterver

[orchid zealot]

Neither? Mercs aren't funding anyone, huh

[shadow stirrup]

ganja is back in S2 tho!!!!!!!

[slim moth]

Mercs been down graded hardcore

[orchid zealot]

How so. Mercs are still the same thing they've been since soc.

Only in CS were they a "faction" with skin in yhe game

Then after the faction wars they said shit nvm lmao

[shadow stirrup]

I hate faction wars man

[wanton arch]

I WANT FACTION WARRRRRR

[slim moth]

Im talking about what they were supposed to look like from their concept art

[shadow stirrup]

duality of a stalker

[orchid zealot]

Oh TRUE

[wanton arch]

the actual MERCs

[drowsy raptor]

I imagine it was asked a lot before, but are there plans to create GAMMA like stuff for second game?

[wanton arch]

holy shit it would been so peak

[wanton arch]

that would take more years and people are not liking it

[drowsy raptor]

Thanks for the info, and fair enough.

[shadow stirrup]

like it or not, this is peak merc performance.

[wanton arch]

either the game is fit like anomoly

[shadow stirrup]

cool blue guys with gas masks

[slim moth]

that's one of my fav armors tho

[normal sentinel]

What was the merc concept art?

[orchid zealot]

Yikes can we not

[wanton arch]

see the ISG

[nocturne smelt]

I think part of the problem with these Mercs are the matching outfits. Makes them seem more like a unified faction.

[orchid zealot]

Wrong though.

ISG completely different thing from mercs

[slim moth]

they almost looked more like a SWAT team

[shadow stirrup]

matching outfits cuz it's cute :3

[wanton arch]

they look like the Team from the brit

beat me dude they just SAS

SAS

[normal sentinel]

Yeah lol

[wanton arch]

im pretty sure the original plan for merc where just bunch of UN nation special force trying to infiltrate the zone

[nocturne smelt]

I feel like that was their design influence.

[orchid zealot]

Well they are a faction in the sense that they are an organized group. But they are still hired guns at the end of the day

[shadow stirrup]

mercs were supposed to be US army glad they changed them

[wanton arch]

like the "Older" version of the merc clothes were for what

US army

ye

[warped monolith]

I just watched the new Total Warhammer 3 DLC trailer

Nagash says IDI KO MNE

twice, even.

[shadow stirrup]

ugly af

[wanton arch]

real

[shadow stirrup]

what even is that camo

[wanton arch]

i mean it fit the real life camo.

[warped monolith]

counter-strike mentioned

[wanton arch]

ay ay ay

[silver orchid]

that isn't a concept i think

[nocturne smelt]

Really shitty m81?

[normal sentinel]

They still used those skins for the multiplayer mode

[silver orchid]

that is a skin of the MP Merc inspired on the UNO concept

[shadow stirrup]

too shitty

[wanton arch]

tbh they will not make a comback

consider ISPF

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6ejxTUbIAA8xNK.gif

it will be so peak if GSC does not care and go full out

bringing back the true funny

[shadow stirrup]

IPSF is boring

[wanton arch]

literally

[slim moth]

imagine

[normal sentinel]

ISPF is a weird faction, they seem redundant with Ward

[tired flicker]

The only comeback I'm waiting is craftable and lootable zone patch for oxa prototype

[wanton arch]

IPSF are meant to be like

Border guards

they suppose not to be roaming around inside the location even

[shadow stirrup]

iirc IPSF was supposed to be the Ukrainian Military but GSC decided to change it due to political reasons which is stupid

[slim moth]

i feel like the merc's were sent in with too low of a budget

[wanton arch]

International Perimeter Security Force!!!!

[warped monolith]

it's not stupid... the normies might not have bought the game and it'd hurt their bottom line

[shadow stirrup]

like how is there no Ukrainian army personel in the zone

[wanton arch]

INTERNATIONAL PERIMETER SECURITY FORCE!!!

JUST CALL EM UN

[warped monolith]

and some dumbass russian boycott as well

[wanton arch]

GRRR

GIVE THEM CYAN CLOTHES

[shadow stirrup]

what are they even expecting? RGF?

[nocturne smelt]

lol. I posted the same image the other day.

[wanton arch]

i want to make a joke how useless UN is like how IPSF in the game is

but nah

[slim moth]

maybe it was you who posted it

[shadow stirrup]

keep political shit out of my schizo noosphere game man

[slim moth]

I was like YOOOO

[wanton arch]

Nuh uh

but tbh calling em ISPF is making like the ukrainian cannot do shit

[orchid zealot]

Bruh okay so lemme explain. Whether or not the real reason i poliyics.

IPSF was meant to replace the military presence on the border to relieve the military of that burden. Ward is the interior zone police to replace the interior military presence. SIRCAA is ecologists but more funded.

[wanton arch]

just call em border guards

[orchid zealot]

All three are government funded but IPSF is in collaboration with the UN or at least other country iirc

[shadow stirrup]

tl dr; more rebranded factions (none is interesting)

[wanton arch]

should be but all you hear is ukrainian voice line or ascent

[orchid zealot]

Yes

[wanton arch]

not even that UN funded ?

most of the equipment aren't

[silver orchid]

This is the conceptual art of UN/UNO/OON:

[wanton arch]

oh wait the ydo have G36

[tired flicker]

Isn't GSC considered a terrorist organization in Russia afaik

[normal sentinel]

ISPF makes sense, the zone could only exist for so long before international organizations got their hands visibly in the pie

[wanton arch]

ok sure

[shadow stirrup]

dats some spark shit

[wanton arch]

idk it would be funny to hear a random German IPSF

[shadow stirrup]

spark sucks I hate scar in S2

[silver orchid]

Reskined merc and CS

[wanton arch]

SCAR SUCK

[shadow stirrup]

he had some AURA in CS man S2 killed him

[wanton arch]

scar supposed to be the potrait of insanity anyways

[normal sentinel]

SKIIIIFA

[wanton arch]

but it's just

[wanton arch]

too tired

[silver orchid]

Scar should stayed dead

i don't get the point of have him alive

[wanton arch]

his boss fight is the most boring one even

[orchid zealot]

Basically after the blunders that the Ukrainian Military did, having failed damn near every operation they tried. It makes sense to replace them with border guards and a faction (ward) that's more specially trained for the zones environment.

[shadow stirrup]

now he's your average mentally ill hobo

[normal sentinel]

I’m siding with the colonel this playthrough he’s a chad

[wanton arch]

i mean fair most S2 boss fight are not that impressive

[tired flicker]

Yeah after he got brainwashed c-con to be an agent at the end of CS

[wanton arch]

Korshunov is peak

[slim moth]

💵

[wanton arch]

This is why i sided with DUTY!

URAH

[warped monolith]

how would I know

[shadow stirrup]

||FAUST FIGHT FUCKING SUCKS||

[normal sentinel]

Idk why people hate Ward so much they’re not that bad of a faction practically speaking

[wanton arch]

Faust fight in Duga is bullshit

[silver orchid]

Sad, this game don't needed many nostalgiabaits for have a great plot or characters.

[wanton arch]

mostly due to Duty

[warped monolith]

how so, they're not related

isn't ward just SIRCAA's private goons

[wanton arch]

consider most people calling ward an off-brand duty

[slim moth]

that's just media in general with remakes and sequels

[wanton arch]

suppose so

[normal sentinel]

Prolly because Duty got spanked by Ward

[wanton arch]

i don't think so ?

did they

[shadow stirrup]

cuz they are

[wanton arch]

i never heard any mention of ward pushing duty out

[wanton arch]

you got tricked