╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[vivid willow]

Anyone have any idea why this keeps happening? I tried disabling mods and verifying the integrity of game files

[knotty onyx]

Lmfao lookin like an early SoC mod

[vivid willow]

After I deleted the Saves folder, I thought it was fixed. But after restarting the game it's there again

[prime shell]

so poltergeists can just throw shit through walls now?

[tired flicker]

still tweaking graphics to max out quality while maxing out fps

reduced latency and increased fps

No upscaling

[warped monolith]

[tired flicker]

Shame HDR does not show up in screenshots

[tepid spade]

use SKIV to convert HDR to SDR with accurate values for sharing

[tired flicker]

Shift + winkey + S goes brrt

[viscid solar]

Is there any debug mode for stalker 2? like for spawn npcs? want to make a little war

[hallow canopy]

Stalker 2 official discord posted a Gamma showcase for celebrating on arrival on GOG

[finite needle]

It's not the first time they've show appreciation for GAMMA

[hallow canopy]

First time seen it myself as I joined first Gamma then S2 community

Should have joined both long time ago

[nimble hawk]

We need them on Steam not GOG

[warped monolith]

gog > steam tho

[tired flicker]

I know they added mutant skinning, is it only specific mutants or locked to some quest?

[viscid solar]

No when you kill an mutant they have a chance to be lootable

[tired flicker]

Gog > steam > everything else

[viscid solar]

and i guess that is all mutants

[finite needle]

Fairly high chance, I think on the biggest mutants it's almost 100%

[tired flicker]

Rng got it

Need knife equipped or nah?

[finite needle]

nope

[viscid solar]

no it only shown the interaction

like when you gonna loot a corpse

[hallow canopy]

Ill rather choose Steam regardless of pricing

[warped monolith]

I'll only buy on steam if the price is much lower and/or it's unavailable on gog

[nimble hawk]

Nobody uses GOG 🤣

[warped monolith]

[viscid solar]

like this

[kindred violet]

Gog is great

[finite needle]

Why did you pick that image tho

[warped monolith]

ass jerky don't make itself

[hallow canopy]

Keep in mind
Skif uses the same knife to cut mutants and eat his ratios

[viscid solar]

First that i find lol

[warped monolith]

the zone is not known for having a lot of choice in cutlery

[hallow canopy]

Its a creative on to use a knife

However
Survival tip
How do you disinfect such knife after use in a slavic country?

[finite needle]

vodka?

[jagged cradle]

Hey guys, what the heck happened to the enemies? They've become super strong... They don't even go down after three shots to the head.

[hallow canopy]

Correct

[heady flame]

Great work @midnight wind appreciate all the work youve put into this project

[hallow canopy]

Why you ping him in the Stalker 2 channel?

[warped monolith]

[fathom hill]

[indigo harness]

its the 2nd best store for pc lol

[finite needle]

btw now it's official that only reddit thinks GSC hates anomaly/gamma

[hallow canopy]

Lol
Paranoid AF people there

I never hated Gamma as a game in the first place
Just never saw it as my style of game

[finite needle]

boy am I glad I went ward this run, fucking spark is nowhere, ward patrols are everywhere

[neat perch]

when i get to add it to my library?

[hallow canopy]

Get what?

Stalker 2 over gog?

[neat perch]

gamma

on gog

[hallow canopy]

They'll sent you over email

[finite needle]

And I mean EVERYWHERE. Luckily, this group will come in handy.

[warped monolith]

wait wtf

gamma also works on gog if you have Stalker 2

[hallow canopy]

Wait whats the difference between you manually installing Gamma and getting it over gog?

[hallow canopy]

Could be a miss spelling

[neat perch]

i do have CoP on GoG (both versions) but not stalker 2, stalker 2 is on steam

[icy basin]

Reading vs one-click

[warped monolith]

it counts both cop and hoc

[icy basin]

Actually no

[warped monolith]

[icy basin]

MBOmnis knows

Anyway

Off to play so hard to install on your own and save money GAMMA

[midnight wind]

none

[hallow canopy]

I assume its install and play as i read thro the description?

[heady flame]

Yall offer snu snu?

[icy basin]

Idk lol

Not gonna try it personally

[neat perch]

i take it it doesn't work for steam stalker 2. just GoG cop

[icy basin]

As I don't have money to burn

[hallow canopy]

Is it even supposed to be free on GoG?

[finite needle]

Huh has this always been here?

[neat perch]

the mod? yes

[zenith latch]

It says 'coming soon' for me

But I'm so happy about this 😄

[hallow canopy]

Yup
Always at that tower you are on

[hallow canopy]

So over GoG is literally a click and play function

[neat perch]

well it should be so yes. sometimes it isn't that simple. looking at fallout london downgrade path

[finite needle]

Was fallout london worth all the drama in the end?

[rotund quiver]

is there a way where we can donate GOG copies of STALKER COP in celebration of the latest announcement ?

[neat perch]

i don't know of any drama

[tame lodge]

felt empty

[rotund quiver]

the drama was much like the mod, empty and did nothing

[tame lodge]

set in a city that feels emptier than base game boston

new vegas still on top

[neat perch]

fallout london. my critique of it is that it simply has same negative mod qualities as any other mods.

[tame lodge]

i dont think theres a single big total conversion mod for the bethesda games thats better or on par with the game its modded from

except enderal

[kindred violet]

Was about to say lmao

[neat perch]

well skyrim has some overhaul packs that are only about QoLs
if we consider skyUI as overhaul by itself xd

[finite needle]

Nah nothing as big as that

[tame lodge]

thats why I edited to total conversion

[neat perch]

my bad. didn't notice edit

[finite needle]

it has some interesting game modes that completely overhaul the game, but nothig that is something else entirely, except Enderal

[tame lodge]

yeah enderal is basically using skyrim as an engine

[neat perch]

i have total blank on enderal

[tame lodge]

wish projects like that were made for other bethesda games

[finite needle]

It's on steam if you wish

for free of course

[kindred violet]

And it's great

[tame lodge]

starfield only has the star wars genesis mod and that is basically all reskins and some config changes + AI voices

[finite needle]

The only other very big mod that I remember that just takes a game as a base and makes it new is Anbennar for Europa Universalis IV

[neat perch]

added to library. perhaps i someday touch it by i am aiming more towards skyblivion

[finite needle]

Skywind is dead still, no?

[tame lodge]

TES6 is coming out sooner than that I feel like

[neat perch]

https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_skyblivion

[finite needle]

Tamriel Rebuilt is gonna be completed before that

and Tamriel Rebuilt has started development when I suspect alt east 50% of the GAMMA fanbase wasn't even born

[neat perch]

somehow i have missed that project

[finite needle]

it's for Morrowind, and has started when Morrowind was the newest release in Bethesda's arsenal

also the answer to the question why didn't bethesda include all of the continent when they released morrowind

[neat perch]

i never really got into morrowind. tbh fantasy RPGs older than skyrim are very often miss for me

well might and magic goes fine

it's like big void between homm3 and skyrim

[finite needle]

Morrowind might have the worst combat system of all times

[kindred violet]

*misunderstood

[neat perch]

misunderstood is like first and 2nd baldur's gate

[tame lodge]

yeah its a turn based rpg system that they used in an first person rpg

its weird

with hit chances etc

thats how id explain it atleast

[indigo harness]

ye its pretty terrible ngl

[neat perch]

sounds like might and magic but might and magic did it better

[finite needle]

Still possibly the best game I've ever played

despite that

[tame lodge]

dark messiah is peak but idk if you mean that

[neat perch]

M&M 6

[tame lodge]

there is a similar game coming out to dark messiah

[neat perch]

https://assetsio.gnwcdn.com/Might-and-Magic-3.jpg?width=2048&height=2048&fit=bounds&quality=85&format=jpg&auto=webp

turn based combat

https://images.gog-statics.com/08f9e3d7826f325139d2194ab9fc769a8f9398964242b7e1f0333c1a6801ef4b_product_card_v2_mobile_slider_639.jpg

and easy to understood statistics

[warped monolith]

only thing I remember is that it was extremely unstable at release

[warped monolith]

name?

[tame lodge]

Forgor

[tame lodge]

Alkahest or Fatekeeper

One of those 2

[finite needle]

Is this gonna be another of those retro games that ape great classics of the past that end up being mediocre?

[warped monolith]

I saw a fatekeeper trailer recently

I think I played alkahest demo on steam next fest last year

or was it something else

[neat perch]

it's sad as game developer within the association that there's huge misconception of state of gaming and modding.

mods are becoming kings. even now I am considering installing mods to IL2 1946 to get my ww2 warplane fix

as warthunder has been doing seppuku

[warped monolith]

mods have always been great for gaming, ever since the days of Quake (Team Fortress) and Half-Life (TFC and CS and Day of Defeat and Sven co-op)

[finite needle]

If you ever touched Assetto Corsa you know how that game is fueled by mods more than anything else

[neat perch]

oh i know that it is. I am by large valve fan myself. and used to play Gmod 9-11

and empire at war. and much more

i even know people who have modded sims 1.8

[warped monolith]

even I'm a one-time modder, if you count extracting a character skin, opening it up on photoshop and changing its hue/saturation as "modding"

[finite needle]

Mods is also the reason League of Legends exists, but I know people that wouldn't count this as a positive

[neat perch]

i often dabble in scripts to adjust things to my liking

[warped monolith]

you could say something even worse: mods is the reason why dota exists

[neat perch]

well that is true. dota started as mod

[warped monolith]

and league was created from former dota devs/players

[warped monolith]

as well as counter-strike and team fortress, that I mentioned above

also pubg started as a mod for ARMA

tower defense games also come from the same custom warcraft 3 map iirc

[tame lodge]

Ive been thinking about buying that but dont have a good stick or pedals so idk how that would control

[hardy acorn]

DayZ also started as a mod for Arma

[finite needle]

So if you preorder you get this armor with all those upgrtades preinstalled? Bullshit.

[warped monolith]

oh right it's dayz, not pubg. my mistake

[hardy acorn]

I'd like to play il-2 1946 with VR but unfortunately it's not compatible, you'd think it'd be possible due to the trackir

[tame lodge]

Didnt pubg aswell

[hardy acorn]

Playing on IL-2 Great Battles instead with Pat Willson Campaign Generator

[warped monolith]

... I actually don't know anymore lol

[warped monolith]

[tame lodge]

I just want a sim feel on controller or mouse, like WT realistic battles

I play sim on wt with mkb and its ok there too

Atleast jets

Since you have dampening

[hardy acorn]

I think you can with IL-2 Great Battles but not sure, been playing with HOTAS for ages now

[neat perch]

IL2 can be played somewhat comfortably with mouse and keyboard

[hardy acorn]

Only WW2 planes though

[tame lodge]

Im fine with ww2 i think 1946 has a ton of mods

[neat perch]

Il2 1946 has B.A.T. mod that sovles ww2 issue

[hardy acorn]

Have the devs stated when the supposed Stalker 2 multiplayer is coming out? And what it would entail?

[indigo harness]

probably gonna get cancelled if i had to guess

[hardy acorn]

Yeah but you def need trackir and hotas to play il-2 1946 comfortably

[finite needle]

Does black mesa count as a mod?

[hardy acorn]

What about the bonuses that were multiplayer only, gonna be added to the single player or what?

[neat perch]

tracking? huh

i do have old logitech sidewinder and that is all i have needed for truly comfortable play

[finite needle]

it was initially released as a mod iirc and then became standalone

[warped monolith]

theoretically yea

[hardy acorn]

I believe it started as a mod and then got funding from Valve iirc

[hardy acorn]

you don't need trackir but it's helps alot with looking around and stuff

[neat perch]

does IL2 1946 even support that?

[hardy acorn]

trackir yeah, loads of youtubers used it back in the day

One F Jef for example iirc

[tame lodge]

I guess nuclear option is my only...... option 🥁

[neat perch]

only issue with il2 when using only mouse and keyboard is that there's no deadzone in manner of speaking

[tame lodge]

So i have to use an imaginary one

[tired flicker]

I preorder and never use any preorder things

[hardy acorn]

Honestly just wish you could change the skin of the guns with a mechanic instead of it being a seperate item, why would you ever use a different pistol instead of skiffs

[tired flicker]

average sight in russia

[rotund mantle]

The US aswell

[finite needle]

Help stalker kill flesh because he has no ammo
He asks for ammo and leaves
Notice stash where he was hiding
No ammo

I don't know what I was expecting

[frank tangle]

Does master mode make all headshots an instant kill, regardless of armor, gun or ammo?

[hallow canopy]

50/50

The Exos are bit difficult to kill with my fully kit out Fora

And stock ammo,no ap

However mutants die much quicker is what I sure noticed

[frank tangle]

I’m 20 hours into the story and every enemy has died in one shot to the head with Skif’s starting pistol.

I assume that will change?

Because if not, I don’t know what the purpose of looting most guns is. Other than scopes for long range and shotguns for mutants.

[hallow canopy]

Im at the Duga fight with the 1st faust
Soo its a bit difficult to kill exos
But with AP headshot they do go down much easier pre 1.7

[hallow canopy]

Got the Sledgehammer from the Arena
Single burst of all 8 shots kill a burer or less even

[golden hazel]

The fabled crack den anomaly

[finite needle]

Gotta pay some duty scientist prime bucks to create me a magazine fed Sledgehammer

[hallow canopy]

Only true stalker load them still manually

And i recommend the Sledgehammer as a nice stop gap between the M60 and Saiga

That is if you can beat the enemies in Master

[finite needle]

I pray that they never "fix" the chimera being unable to attack you if you get the high grond

that shit is so annoying to fight

plus game already put me through having to deal with a psy dog with a boomstick, I already deserve the cool shotgun that is slightly worse than one I can get for free if I go to Yantar

[hallow canopy]

I agree, although I am sure the Chimera can jump up to train cargo size, I fought the one Chimera next to the tunnel near the SIRCAA base after its incident, that Chimera jumped up the containers and hit me

[warped monolith]

it should simply be able to leap at you

but yeah

it's already cancer enough

[hallow canopy]

Imagen you fighting it in Master Difficulty

What GSC should fix are the softlock when the mutants pin you down, its annoying AF

[finite needle]

Ayo the freedom suit is pretty good, if only it had psy protection tho

4 slots even

[hallow canopy]

Got the SEVA suit, its decent at all

[finite needle]

Yeah I never used it, I always get the Duty and/or Spark one

but might try the Freedom look in my Duty/Ward run

btw I still don't know if it's better to have a full suit or to have suit + mask with their fucking system

[hallow canopy]

While thats a set,some suits might have more/less space or customised options than separate sets

[warped monolith]

uh... is there an actual difference in master difficulty or is it only the limited saves

[hallow canopy]

A bunch
No compas,crosshair, limited resources,anomalies instant kill you almost,limited saves in hub areas

Also the traders are expensive af

[warped monolith]

all glorpshit then

pass

[hallow canopy]

Suit yourself

[warped monolith]

if I wanted bullshit difficulty I'd play gamma

[hallow canopy]

More like frustrating difficulty than hard

[warped monolith]

glad you finally agree

[late kernel]

Misery ahh artificial difficulty

[hallow canopy]

Gamma isnt hard to play, its just Frustrating AF

[finite needle]

Well that's the target audience

GAMMA is easier than base anomaly

[warped monolith]

did not feel like that in my experience

[finite needle]

Maybe it's because I played Anomaly much less and at some point I knew GAMMA inside out, but I always found it waaay easier.

[warped monolith]

I managed to finish anomaly so for me that makes it the easier one

[finite needle]

Fair, I finished both but played Anomaly once and GAMMA quite a bit more

Oh fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgxBFoJKMo

[warped monolith]

hey hey, people

[hallow canopy]

Awesome, gonna watch that while eating

[summer vapor]

Less loot in stashes/crates

[finite needle]

More overall damage? The little I tried it felt like dying/killing was easier

then again I think they rebalanced damage in general beacuse enemies are less spongy

[hallow canopy]

Yep they die quicker somehow for my feelings

Pre 1.7 the enemies were too spongy imo

[finite needle]

I left the chimera arena fight with one full magazine of ammo and some spare

I remember when on veteran you needed ALL THE BULLETS and ALL OF THEM HEADSHOTS.

plus it was a kharod, idk why now they give you a dnipro

[hallow canopy]

Yup same

You gonna love the last fight in the arena

I suggest the AK-74u to take

[finite needle]

revolver

[hallow canopy]

Nope

[finite needle]

it's easy just click on his head

I don't care gun nuts hate the revolver, it's the only way to fight

[summer vapor]

Npcs react faster in master mode

[hallow canopy]

I found the ak more efficient

[hallow canopy]

In gun fights yes,in stealth no

[summer vapor]

The animation is the same as the animation of being knocked down by boars, they should redo it to make it different

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sseth-gif-27687542

[tired flicker]

And so Soviet block countries for the first decade after freedom

[summer vapor]

What if an exos made it possible to not fall from the attacks of a bloodsucker, that would be interesting

[warped monolith]

if it were an actual power armor, maybe

[normal sentinel]

JOIN DUTY

PROTECTING THE WORLD FROM THE ZONE

[hallow canopy]

Thats so awesome

The Guards at Rostok dont seem to care a gun is being pointed at em

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/tanino-gimlet-hiruno-d'amour-horse-horse-of-wisdom-gif-8087630190955450711

[tired flicker]

literally useless faction

[normal sentinel]

Duty and Freedom both are in S2

[rotund mantle]

They got cucked so hard lol

[normal sentinel]

Ward gave them a spanking

[rotund mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/house-party-belt-belt-spank-gif-11998992

[normal sentinel]

Duty getting kicked out of Rostok was a big L though

[warped monolith]

and beard got kicked out of the skadovsk iirc?

[normal sentinel]

I don’t think I’ve seen army warehouses in the game yet but I assume they’re still on the map somewhere

[normal sentinel]

Yeah

There’s a quest involving him and sultan though

You can get some satisfying outcomes

[tired flicker]

duty too afraid to leave rostok in trilogy, duty also cant keep rostok in stalker 2, worst faction

[normal sentinel]

Ecologists are the best faction

Gigachad Kruglov

[shadow stirrup]

RUN MARKED ONE HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE AAAAAAAHHHHH

virgin professional voice actor with british accent vs that one hobo slavic guy with no prior voice acting experience

man I still wish they spoke with russian/ukrainian accent instead of british breaks my immersion

feels like I'm in Birmingham instead of the zone

[normal sentinel]

Lmao

https://youtu.be/3CgC42GlsjA?si=v5EWBICA3owCnAB0

[shadow stirrup]

merc voicelines are my favorite fr

[normal sentinel]

Trilogy voice acting was something

[shadow stirrup]

"alright... drop that Re$#@$"

[warped monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhBLJ6L-byo

we need a stalker 2 version of this

[normal sentinel]

Mercs are a cool faction it’s too bad they don’t really feature in the game aside from functioning as bandits on steroids

[tired flicker]

the best faction, is gone

[shadow stirrup]

https://youtu.be/l3_YWhRSDYc?si=bQFTITekZeXpG7ZF

gsc didn't gaf back then

also WHY are cats so fucking tanky in S2

I open more holes in their body than their body mass with my 12 gauge shotgun and they are still fucking moving

[warped monolith]

4:3 gaming

[latent dune]

Now would be a bad time to try and update wouldnt it?

[warped monolith]

probably

[shadow stirrup]

why tho

is that youtuber that popular?

[warped monolith]

somewhat.

we're probably not gonna get another Drewskening but

[tired flicker]

pair that with gog and it will bop, because now gamba is officially endorsed publicly

[hallow canopy]

New Anomaly
Ground Eater

[tired flicker]

gone will be the doubts in peoples minds - is it safe, my antivirus says danger etc messages, because now you got multiple companies endorsing gamba

[warped monolith]

true

[flint escarp]

selling limited edition energy drinks, dm me

[rotund mantle]

Bros looking for the artifact that fell through the floor

[warped monolith]

[rotund mantle]

CS enjoyer until I die

[split crown]

@golden hazel this moment in the vid is just for you https://youtu.be/3MgxBFoJKMo?t=857

[ivory sable]

THANK YOU GAMMA PEOPLE FOR GOG RELEASE I CANT MOD 4 SHIT THANK YOU THANK YOU

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/tanino-gimlet-hiruno-d'amour-horse-horse-of-wisdom-gif-8087630190955450711

[tired flicker]

when you leave zallyssia and your fps goes instantly the moment you step past the houses from 80 fps max to 100+

[warped monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif

[tired flicker]

to reach same performance I had to run upscaling from 66% to get 1440p at still slightly worse results back in 1.0.3

[shadow stirrup]

can some1 pls explain to me the difference between ward and duty conceptually

both are highly militarized factions that wish the destroy the zone

like why invent another faction for that

[tired flicker]

duty is rogue spetsnaz and old ukrainian military, now pretty much stalkers, ward is fully sanctioned ukrainian military, tldr

[golden hazel]

Duty originally was created by former military guys that got traumatized by the horrors of the inner zone in an attempt to nuke it, they wanted order and disagreed with the weed faction cause they didn't want to destroy it
Ward is basically just the private army of SIRCAA and is there to clear a way for SIRCAA to do whatever research they want

[wanton arch]

To make it more simple

Duty was a major faction created by the former ISPF ( Ukrainian Military in Triology ) that has general ideology of destroying the zone because they deem it too dangerous

Ward is another major faction that being the Guards for SIRCAA

But one of the commander units Korshunov wanting to destroy the zone

Korshunov himself simply wanting to avenge his comrades in general

Ok if we are pulling Korshunov out of the equation...

The purpose of Ward is somewhat the same as SICRAA
A faction that tried to seize the Zone for their profit similar to Scientist Group from malachite ( only discover to get profit )

[shadow stirrup]

alr makes sense

what's the best mutant killing weapon?

[signal falcon]

The one you currently have ammo for

[shadow stirrup]

Im using spas but I got bored of it looking for a better alternative

[signal falcon]

Try throwing big rocks at them

[wanton arch]

Orgyn ahh comment

[shadow stirrup]

I wish you would stop answering

[signal falcon]

I wish you’d start throwing big rocks around

[golden hazel]

Club em

[signal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

[wanton arch]

Slap and club em

[warped cedar]

Rate the fit

[oak orbit]

Ghost of Pripyat ft. Zulu (Monolith)

[chrome wind]

bit the bullet and bought it finally

played when it was still on gamepass but cheeki breeki's review of 1.7 sold me

[golden hazel]

HoC Tuah

[wanton arch]

I need i need

A mod

That increase mutant population!!!

Hell ON EARTH

[hallow canopy]

lol there is a quest for that

and a Sweet AR modified Sniper rifle

[warm pine]

i lowk hate that there's no cigs in stalker 2

[summer vapor]

Imagine smoking in 2025

[hallow canopy]

Ill rather drink vodka than smoke

[warped monolith]

true, should be vape instead

[wanton arch]

i hate how they are that lazy to not add HK417 or G28

or even funnier

actually make the AKU74S in strelok hideout BIG

imagine long ahhh reciever AKU

[icy basin]

I can't

[wanton arch]

just imagine

[icy basin]

I don't know what a receiver is

[wanton arch]

here

[icy basin]

Trigger

[wanton arch]

actually strelok is beefy af when he has his own 7.62x54 AK

[blissful thunder]

what are some mods that make stalker 2 feel more like gamma

[wanton arch]

Non rn

Or similar

Lootable zone and craftable zone

Detachable helmet + armor vest

[blissful thunder]

it works with latest verison?

[wanton arch]

Repair kit with Oxa prototype

It should

[blissful thunder]

is there like faction identification mod

i cant tell who is who and i dont wanna kill wrong guy sometimes

[wanton arch]

Oxa proto has that

There are no mods that add a bunch of med and health bars for each body part

Get whatever up to date mod ledge vaulting

Idk if freeplay still work for 1.7

Prob is

But standard s2 playthrough is still similar to the triology or open map with linear story

[shy apex]

i just bought a new pc and im on the fence about buying s2 or not, is it worth it on its current state?

i know it was kinda fucked in its release state

[warped monolith]

it's getting better but not quite there yet

[wanton arch]

I would say on pair if you want to enjoy the triology story path

But like anomoly

Not there yet

[hallow canopy]

I can suggest it if its still on discount

I can see the potential now in the future after the 1.7 Update has brought my joy back into Stalker 2
Especially the Master Difficulty

[wanton arch]

Basically if you want to go through the story

Yeah it work

But asking for customization for how you play the game

Not yet

Too far

And missing a few aspects from the triology

[hallow canopy]

The reason I would suggest it is also that you would wait for the game to be finished so long that eventually the fun in waiting will be gone

[wanton arch]

yup

GTA 6 hype be like

[warped monolith]

"fun in waiting"

[wanton arch]

i mean rn it's still a good time to buy stalker 2

[hallow canopy]

Meaning is that you would never experience Stalker 2 at its fullest as it will be constantly worked on

So go buy that game abd have fun

[wanton arch]

like the base game itself is enjoyable in few ways

unlike 1.0

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

[shy apex]

seems like a good way to test the pc, being as unoptimized as it is

if it works fine then gg i've got a good pc lmao

without me having to tinker too much with the settings that is

[hallow canopy]

Ive enjoyed Stalker 2 regardless of what build it was released
As my perspective on the game never really changed
As well as the meaning of being a true Stalker
Thus I am at peace with GSC and Stalker 2

[warped monolith]

waiting isn't fun
must consoom now

[hallow canopy]

You never will know how fun it was if you never experienced it in the first place

[nocturne smelt]

The optimization has definitely improved a lot since 1.0.

[hallow canopy]

Perhaps ill give gamma a shot someday again

That Seth video motivated me

[shy apex]

im downloading it rn lmao

[hallow canopy]

Stalker 2?

[shy apex]

nah gamma

im broke rn so i wont be able to buy s2 for a bit

60 bucks for it seems a bit pricey too

[nocturne smelt]

I'd get it on sale if your willing to wait.

[shy apex]

yeah that's the plan

[vivid ether]

It will probably become good in another year or two. Trust the modern gaming process.

[warped monolith]

not interested in "experiencing the fun" of an unfinished, broken game

[hallow canopy]

Oh yea the discount are over

[shy apex]

hey at least they didn't abandon it lmao

[warped monolith]

I'm gonna say this just one last time - if you're ok spending 70usd/eur in an early access title, that's your preference. don't try to convince other ppl that it's a good thing

[shy apex]

it shouldn't have released as it did tho

[shy apex]

brother I play escape from tarkov, it'll be fine lmao

[hallow canopy]

If you get the meaning of what Stalker means,you would appreciate the game even more if it had no enemies, thats how perspective is important

There is a video out there that taught me such perspective

[warped monolith]

at least that one made it clear it was an early access title still in active development

and it didn't cost 70usd for the base edition

[shy apex]

60 I believe, and at that point 10+ dollars don't make much difference i reckon

[hallow canopy]

Well luckily games on steam dont die easily
So Stalker 2 will be available for generations

[shy apex]

wait, no, was it 40?

idk

[vivid ether]

[nocturne smelt]

It needed another year to cook. If it released today I'd be a little less annoyed at the state it launched in. It still needs a lot of work though.

[hallow canopy]

It was on discount for 40€

[vivid ether]

Idk gabe is old asf

[shy apex]

yeah that's what i gathered too

[shy apex]

he at least gifted us with the gabecube tho

have faith in the old man

[warped monolith]

back in 2016 base edition of EFT was 30 iirc

[shy apex]

he created a standard in PC gaming

[hallow canopy]

If Valve would go a way like other Gaming platforms
They would be beaten by they fans for such way, steam is huge in the industry

[nocturne smelt]

The oven for the cooking takes time. - GSC

[blissful thunder]

should i side with ward or bandits

[shy apex]

nah i bought it for about 50 bucks i believe

[hallow canopy]

Phenomenal quote right here

[shy apex]

nah lets be real for a second tho

[hallow canopy]

Imagen it like a Old Soviet oven,slow but reliable

[shy apex]

they tried to make a quick cashgrab knowing we would foot the bill

they probably didn't have more money to keep developing the game, so they dumped it on us

[vivid ether]

Wdym by this. What I'm saying is gabe is old and we don't know what will happen to the company when he does go

[shy apex]

would've been way better if they made a smaller game

[hallow canopy]

To explain why, it is for the greater good to improve the game.
They want feedback from Fans instead of paid testers that might/might not have played before the trilogy

[shy apex]

Regardless of what nietzsche said, god didn0t and will not die

[warped monolith]

"gifted"
we don't even know how much it's gonna cost yet

[hallow canopy]

I assisted too in reporting bugs and help improve the game

[nocturne smelt]

It would have been better if they just kept it zone based with loading screens. Having a massive open world worked against them for sure.

[shy apex]

No, to explain why, it is because they started developing a game that was way too big and they realized they didn't have the money or resources to continue, so they fucked their fans mate

that's what happened

[hallow canopy]

Would have been performance based better, however that mood when you can see all the landmarks from the Duga is insane

[shy apex]

lemme have faith in the one positive influence in the industry lmao

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah but you can simulate that view and still have smaller zones.

[warped monolith]

shill for no one

[vivid ether]

Nothing optimistic with how crazy the ram prices goes rn

[warped monolith]

chernobylite also lets you see all landmarks from high ground and it's separated by zones

[hallow canopy]

Oh yea I almost forgot about my 2nd favourite game

However it does feel repetitive to go in a box where some sections are off limits

Meanwhile in S2 you can literally pick a direction and go

[warped monolith]

it's also repetitive to walk around a huge open map full of nothing

also is it really your "second favorite" game if you almost forgot it

[nocturne smelt]

Open world is more immersive for sure. But your not as limited with spawns, distance, optimization, clutter...etc when using seperate zones. It makes it way easier to develope when loading screens are involved.

[hallow canopy]

Thats where the Stalker mondset or perspective comes in play, you would appreciate it even more to have that as, less is more

[nocturne smelt]

I mean, It's subjective I guess. I'd rather be able to see people 300m away with Binos and have loading screens then have them spawn in a 90m bubble and have an open world.

[warped monolith]

"less is more" also applies to having a smaller map with less empty space

you can not be seriously trying to apply that logic in a 150 gb game where you walk more than you shoot

[hallow canopy]

Well as I said, the meaning of Stalker
Learn it, apply it to the game

[warped monolith]

"more is less" is closer to accurate with stalker 2

[warped monolith]

right. so the first trilogy didn't know the meaning of stalker, then

[hallow canopy]

You find ways to diss Stalker 2
While il find ways to have more Fun in the world that GSC made

[hallow canopy]

It did too
Just with limited hardware at that time

And software

[nocturne smelt]

Enjoying something doesn't mean it can't be critiqued.

I enjoy stalker 2, But I can still see where things could be better if other decisions were made.

[warped monolith]

I'm not blind to the game's issues
you create headcanon to justify you having fun with the game, but I take issue with you trying to convince ppl the game is objectively good and it's their "mentality" that is wrong

this is disingenuous, you're acting like a used car salesman

[warped monolith]

on the other hand, enjoying something doesn't mean you should act like it's a flawless masterpiece and have to defend it like it's your unborn child

And I'm saying all of this because I preordered the ultimate edition.
I wouldn't say I'm entitled to anything other than having an honest opinion about the state of the game, since I fucking paid for it and expected it to be at the very least a complete, functional game.

And it wasn't. It still isn't.

[nocturne smelt]

As a consumer you should scrutinize everything you purchase. Otherwise you'll eventually get lesser and lesser products for the same cost.

[warped monolith]

And I don't care about what someone thinks the "meaning of stalker" is or what the "correct mentality" is for approaching the game. All of this is subjective bullshit. I'll stick to the cold hard facts that the game was rushed out (even after being delayed 3 times) incomplete, buggy and running terribly on top-end hardware

There's no denying that with "mentality" or "knowing the essence of stalker" pseudo-intellectual horseshit

thanks for coming to my tedx

free geiger counters at the exit

[tame lodge]

It does feel like that from the few times ive conversed with them

[nocturne smelt]

It's a very common problem. The "I think something so there can't be anything wrong with it." mentality.

[tame lodge]

Personal biases cloud your judgement and then we end up here

Objective thinking is very rare even for me

[nocturne smelt]

Biases are natural, Everyone has them. Engaging in a conversation with the objective of convincing someone they are wrong is futile however.

[tame lodge]

True words

But yeah i wouldve prefered instances or maps in stalker 2 if it meant them being more filled out instead of empty spaces that are pretty to look at

I havent beaten Stalker 2 but from I gather most of the zones go unused

Or very lightly used

[warped monolith]

there was an image making the rounds here some time ago (mostly around the game's release) showing how many quests each area of the map had.
a lot of them had zero

so no incentive for players to go to said areas other than "I'm gonna go here for no reason at all just for shits and giggles"

which is a valid enough approach, but I don't imagine a large percentage of the playerbase would explore huge areas of the game for nothing

at least they didn't fill the game map with busywork crap like Ubisoft loves to do...

[nocturne smelt]

If they did that I probably wouldn't still be playing it. I hate that type of game design.

[rotund mantle]

@warped monolith fr there is about i think 60-80 cut quests

[nocturne smelt]

I think it was more like 50 and it's based on the leaked build in 2023. So we have no idea on what state those quests were in or why they were cut. Some of them could have been repurposed or just straight abandoned.

There was someone trying to restore some of them with mods but I think that may have gotten shut down.

[rotund mantle]

Its more than 50 lol

[warped monolith]

that many holy shit

how do ppl defend this

[rotund mantle]

Fr lol I learned about it when I was mod on official server its bad

[nocturne smelt]

Well, to be fair there are a million reasons why something could be cut during active development. It is an extremely high number though. Would love to have some of them put back in but we will have to wait and see what GSC decides.

[warped monolith]

they'll come back in DLC phantom liberty style

[rotund mantle]

I think some were cut due to VA issues and not having people to do it

But I cant speak for all

[rotund mantle]

[nocturne smelt]

This is sadly very likely. It's possible some zones could have been cut and all the quests with them.

[rotund mantle]

@warped monolith

[warped monolith]

[rotund mantle]

Found it

[nocturne smelt]

Wasn't there an early rendering of the map they released and it had areas we can't even see on it?

[rotund mantle]

I think so yes I remember blurry cnpp

Still crazy they are selling the cnpp as dlc to us

[nocturne smelt]

Is that confirmed?

[rotund mantle]

No but I have a feeling

I want to believe it'll be free

[hallow canopy]

Don't think its going to be dlc

[rotund mantle]

Modern game monetization got me worried lol

[late kernel]

I'd send an ICBM onto their offices if it was

[warped monolith]

It's already bad enough that the most important place in the stalker universe is not in the game

[hallow canopy]

We might get the City of Limansk as DLC

[nocturne smelt]

I want Limansk so bad. Was really disappointed when I got over there and it was just a radio message.

[hallow canopy]

Someone did suggested it

[late kernel]

Limansk but not a linear nightmare like in CS

[nocturne smelt]

I'm trying to find the image GSC put out but having little luck atm.

[icy basin]

Linear Chadmare

[rotund mantle]

fr an open and fully explorable limansk would be so cool

[icy basin]

That'd be a smaller Pripyat with a river and more stairs

[hallow canopy]

I want to believe Limanks is DLC because there is a radio connecting the transmitter of a soldier inside the city, and its location is right next to the bridge

Thats the only hint I think is valid for DLC

As for CNPP
Im unsure,haven't seen any hints

We at least know GSC is cooking something

[nocturne smelt]

This is what I was thinking of...

[late kernel]

By the time 2.0 patch is out, I can buy the Ultimate edition incredibly cheap 😋

[rotund mantle]

I need this game to be peak as I cant get a refund lol

[hallow canopy]

Ill buy the upgrade to Ultimate eventually

[rotund mantle]

If they turn it around ill upgrade from deluxe to ultimate

[hallow canopy]

Seen how No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077 have been in the more/less situation like Stalker 2
Bet it will

Im staying optimistic of the game despite its flaws that many point out

[late kernel]

Selling early access games disguised as fully priced finished games has been the norm since the past couple of years.

[hallow canopy]

Im no longer a kid to play the Trilogy whole way thro all day like I used to, and Stalker 2 is like my go to fun for max 2-3h a day and repeat, all I did yesterday was try fighting the first Faust Fight, failing many times because of many situations

To have worries on every minor detail has got to be exhausting

[warped monolith]

"minor detail", he says

[late kernel]

[warped monolith]

chunks of game missing
bad performance

details

I'm actually losing braincells in this channel. I'm outta here lmao

[late kernel]

And A-Life is a very important part of the game that separates it from being a boring, generic, lifeless, Far Cry like open world games, not being able to see any lifeform past 100 meters.

Yeah, really minor stuff

[warped monolith]

NMS "redeemed itself" only years after release
Cyberpunk sold the fixes to their bad game as DLC

but ey

DETAILS, right

[late kernel]

Oh to be 14 year old again with no standards for gaming, enjoying slop after slop

[nocturne smelt]

People have acclimated to it as it's been the status quo in gaming for the last 10+ years.

Mangia mangia mentality.

[hallow canopy]

Games used to come out of cartridges and CDs fully build.

These days developing a game would require immense finance,time,effort and dedication for it to work

[late kernel]

And actually competent devs

[warped monolith]

or they could just

scale down

[hallow canopy]

We were used to finished games in the past, because they weren't big

[late kernel]

which is far and few inbetween

[warped monolith]

not make a project more ambitious than their capabilities

[icy basin]

We should go back to ET

[hallow canopy]

I hate arguing with people

[warped monolith]

bigger isn't always better and Stalker 2 is empyrical proof of it

[late kernel]

Slavic devs were always way too ambitious with their games

[warped monolith]

I love me some slop as much as the next retard but Stalker 2 ain't it

[late kernel]

its nothing new

[warped monolith]

it's below slop

[hallow canopy]

Gaming standard have been growing since the 90s my guy

[warped monolith]

if standards have grown

why are most games worse

nowadays

[hallow canopy]

Ill rather have Stalker 2 unfinished than whatever the fuck Call of Duty Black Ops 7 gave us

[warped monolith]

the math ain't mathin

[hallow canopy]

Its at least getting worked on with our feedback

[warped monolith]

comparing it to the lowest hanging fruit in the tree isn't really an argument tbh

[late kernel]

That shouldn't be the standard

[warped monolith]

exactly

[late kernel]

stop talking so much shit Mr. Drivers update

[warped monolith]

bo7 isn't the standard to compare other games to

"at least it's not as bad as bo7" weak ass argument

[hallow canopy]

To me it sounds like you are talking as if its a low hanging fruit easily compared to the other aaa slop

[warped monolith]

"hey, at least it's not as bad as the literal worst game released this year, universally panned by everyone and their mother"

[warped monolith]

you're the one who brought up bo7 tho?

[hallow canopy]

Nope
Left CoD since Cold War

Was the last of games ill buy from them

[warped monolith]

literally you were the one who mentioned bo7 in this discussion, man

C'mon, how can you lack self-awareness this hard

no one else talked about it until you brought it up

[hallow canopy]

Im not the best at arguing like this

What should I then bring up as a comparison?
The Trilogy we played 15 years ago??

[warped monolith]

if you wanna talk about it as an objectively good game, compare it to objectively good games released recently, with similar budgets like Expedition 33 or Kingdom Come 2

I wouldn't throw stuff like Silksong into the mix because it's a completely different kinda game, made by an indie dev with a different focus and scope

[nocturne smelt]

Not even a comparison honestly.

[hallow canopy]

They aren't all even in similar genra of what Stalker is

And comparing Gamma and Stalker 2 aint working either

[nocturne smelt]

And BO7 is? Why because it has guns? What!?

[hallow canopy]

Its like comparing Tarkov with Gamma

[warped monolith]

then why did you compare it to BO7, if it's not in the same genre either

[kindred violet]

[warped monolith]

unless we're going strictly by "first person shooter"

[tame lodge]

0 quests in the swamp

no reason to go there ig

that map you showed with quest numbers made me depressed

[warped monolith]

[tame lodge]

devs prolly like "modders will fill it up"

[warped monolith]

There is merit to having a location with "nothing there" and players would just explore that on their own whim without needing incentive to do it

on the other hand, how many % of the playerbase would actually do that?

on the OTHER other hand (yes I have 3), Starfield and its empty planets exist, and people made a LOT of fun of Bethesda for doing that.
Especially after one of the devs tweeted that "finding an empty planet is fun"

[nocturne smelt]

100% Modding was part of the decision process for sure. Modding kept the franchise relevant for years. They would have been stupid not to recognize that. Doesn't excuse what we were given at launch though.

[warped monolith]

heck, now that I think about it, Starfield is 100% a game that can be compared to Stalker 2.

[tame lodge]

yep, I mean as long as they deliver with the mod tools im gonna be fiine with it

[late kernel]

Do you guys not have a spare 1TB SSD?

[tame lodge]

[warped monolith]

muh zonekit

[tame lodge]

no

[late kernel]

Only the most serious modders are allowed to properly mod this game

[tame lodge]

we should be glad this is sucha a classic franchise and not a random new generic scifi ip otherwise the modders would abandon this one too

[nocturne smelt]

Another game I surprisingly enjoy but have MAJOR critiques with.

[warped monolith]

I actually do have a spare 2TB ssd but I can't be arsed to do GSC's job for them.

[warped monolith]

I haven't played yet but remember when I said I love slop as much as the next guy?

I'm fairly confident I'd enjoy SF.

[late kernel]

We heavily criticize Stalker 2 because we really want it to be good, at the end of the day

[nova lake]

gotta delete and redownload the entire sdk everytime it updates

[warped monolith]

the unreal engine experience

[tame lodge]

I thought about buying it just to play the star wars modpack

though i heard its just reskins mostly

[nocturne smelt]

It is reskins.

[tame lodge]

[nocturne smelt]

I just love space and went in with very low expectations.

[tame lodge]

and you have to buy the overpriced dlc too

to play it

meh

[nocturne smelt]

I also have 100s of hours in elite dangerous.

Good luck finding shit on planets in that game.

[tame lodge]

yeah elite is like a space trucker sim pretty much, atleast thats what I ended up doing

[nocturne smelt]

The thing that kills Starfield for me is repetitive locations.

I would have prefered less planets and more handcrafting.

[tame lodge]

yeah like mars has that sick ass mech graveyard or factory i forgot

I wish the game had mechs

like a dlc around them but no

[warped monolith]

yea. Worst part about it is I saw a very clickbaity video saying THIS MOD TURNS STARFIELD INTO A GOTY GAME

[tame lodge]

yeah and bro has a image with like 60 dash points saying how much it adds

but if its just reskins i cba

it mostly just speaks about how barren the star wars games space has been

[rotund mantle]

wait actually?

[nova lake]

if you have a 1tb drive and it updates its likely you wont have the space for the update

[tame lodge]

playing or modding this game feels counterproductive until they release all of it but then who will test the new issues they create

[rotund mantle]

that makes me fearful for the future of the modscene ngl

[tame lodge]

since so much stuff breaks every update

[rotund mantle]

i just want it to be peak i wouldnt have spent so much if i didnt

[tame lodge]

same here

[warped monolith]

forgot to finish this thought

this clickbaity video immediately turned me away from even looking at the mod

[rotund mantle]

but this situation made me make sure to never preorder not even tes 6

[warped monolith]

I recommend X4 Foundations if you don't already have it. You don't get to walk on planets but the space-based flying, the AI simulation (it ACTUALLY has one unlike Stalker 2) and the gameplay possibilities (building up your own fleet - hiring pilots and crewmembers, commanding capital ships, building space stations, harvesting and refining your own resources and building your own ships and parts and such) makes it one of my favorite games to just jump in and lose myself for a week or two

it has a bunch of dlcs but they're mostly well priced for the content imo.

[nocturne smelt]

Sadly. There are certain games I just know I will play regardless. TES 6 fits into this category for me.

[tame lodge]

this game I dont like how youre basically kidna forced to engage with the RTS/Empire building aspects, I wish the game had more with only the flying rpg stuff

[warped monolith]

I didn't personally feel forced to do the RTS bit... I played for about 50 hours as a 'mostly' solo flyer, only bought a second ship and hired a npc pilot to be my wingman

[nocturne smelt]

I know about it and have seen it played but don't own it myself. I did play X3 Reunion though. May need to try X4 if I need something new to play.

[rotund mantle]

ill play but i wont preorder

i need to see what im buying before i blindly trust anymore companies

[tame lodge]

my one wish for TES6 is improved combat

if that happens I will consider buying it

[nocturne smelt]

I don't blame you.

[nova lake]

unfortunately they arent going back to daggerfall or morrowind combat so were never getting that

[nocturne smelt]

Daggerfall unity has become my fav. Morrowind a very close second.

[tame lodge]

I should play morrowind with some modlist

[nocturne smelt]

Everything after that just feels like it has less and less in it.

[tame lodge]

definitely made more mainstream

[warped monolith]

I think morrowind is the sweetspot. Daggerfall is just a tad too "dated" imo

couldn't get into it, either the original or the unity remake

[nocturne smelt]

That's fair, It took me a bit to get into it but once I did it's amazing.

Morrowind is definitely more "Modern" in comparison.

[nocturne smelt]

Tamriel rebuilt is pretty crazy if you have not looked into it.

[tame lodge]

I was thinking about it

are the quests outside morrowind good?

[nocturne smelt]

I think so, They tend to feel like they fit into the game well.

But it's a pretty subjective thing.

[tame lodge]

I mean as long as they are interesting to do as the main game ones thats fine by me

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, It definitely has a more of the same type feeling.

If you liked the base Morrowind ones I don't think you'd be disappointed.

[kindred violet]

Also keep in mind that some areas are much older thus might not have the same level of quality

[rotund mantle]

path of the incarnate is my go to you can find it on wabbajack uses openmw for more stability

[nocturne smelt]

Openmw is almost a must these days. Fixes so many issues.

[rotund mantle]

Fr ive made lists for both as much as I love oldwind and mgexe looks and feel its really unstable the only thing I miss about going to openmw is no ashfall but path of the incarnate has about 800ish mods and is stable af so I dont mind missing out on a few mods

[vernal cedar]

post emission lightning strikes are something else

[tired flicker]

Okay this feels really stable now

[warped monolith]

dang

[viscid solar]

Is there any reason why medkits weigh so much? Like, the item is quite small and in most games there's only one syringe, so why do they weigh 2.5kg if you have, like, 10?

[warped monolith]

on a side note, people love shitting on Fallout 4 but I liked the radiation storms there. Reminded me of emissions in stalker, even though they're not really comparable as a hazard

[rotund mantle]

Honestly they are my favorite weather in the game

[nocturne smelt]

I enjoyed FO4 for what it was.

[rotund mantle]

Its such vibe

[warped monolith]

probably no reason other than stopping players from just carrying a hundred medkits

[viscid solar]

yeah like

it's only this

why this weigh 500g each one lol

[warped monolith]

the box is probably the heaviest part

[viscid solar]

same in stalker 2 btw

[summer vapor]

Most likely they have metal boxes in the game

[warped monolith]

METAL BAWKSES

SSSSSSSSSSSINNNNNNNNNNNNDRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[viscid solar]

Yeah this makes sense

[hallow canopy]

The AI-2 is made of plastic
Not sure what modern meds they use to add around 400g extra

[warped monolith]

free dose of lead poisoning

[hallow canopy]

In the Soviet union army the AI-2 was revolutionary at its time.

It was essentially better than nothing on a irradiated battlefield

[slow cave]

I want a spinning back fist

https://tenor.com/view/askren-spin-spinning-backfist-ufc-gif-15476749

[vernal cedar]

I can understand some of the mutant spawns being scripted, that was in anomaly, etc. but an emission being scripted alongside a mutant spawn with the express purpose of trying to slow you down is diabolical

[hallow canopy]

You in the Swamp heading for Clear Sky?

[vernal cedar]

bingo

[tame lodge]

This looks sweet

Looks like something you could sink 500 hours into if not more lol

[finite needle]

Kind reminder the zone hates you

[wanton arch]

you suppose to run

and don't look back

[warped monolith]

can you outrun it tho?

[kindred violet]

yes

[wanton arch]

you def can

unless you talking about me

im heavy weight carrier not fast runner

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

im dead

[viscid solar]

Guess that is forcing you to get in the shelter to continue the story

[warped monolith]

really? I thought the swamp water made you move slower... and it's a fuckin chimera

I'd have to play and see it for myself. I just can't imagine a stalker outrunning a chimera in the swamp

[viscid solar]

Nightmare fr

You need to avoid the water or you dead

[hallow canopy]

Yes,there are many glass anomalies that you can go thro what the Chimera wont take

[golden hazel]

Just gotta channel your inner Louisianan stalker spirit through the noosphere

[normal sentinel]

Stalker 2 feels like how it should have been on release with 1.7 barring the artifacts bug

[golden hazel]

Still feels early access cause of Lumen solely ngl

[normal sentinel]

What does lumen do exactly

[golden hazel]

It's the lighting system

It's not as bad as on release but it's still not good

[normal sentinel]

I mainly hate the flashlight being borderline useless

[golden hazel]

The Wish flashlight

[normal sentinel]

After playing GAMMA it feels like a lot of Stalker 2's mechanics were inspired in some way, assuming GAMMA had it before S2 even was released

A lot of the animations for items etc

[golden hazel]

Considering how easily the animations would break on release

They were 100% added very late into development

[signal falcon]

STALKER devs when they find out animations exist:

https://tenor.com/view/why-didn't-i-think-of-that-mrboss-smiling-friends-frowning-friends-of-course-gif-14810131280811766713

[golden hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315174387351031859/1438292811597221988/absoluteagreementx2.gif

[tired flicker]

Genuinely thinking of installing the trilogy flashlight mod, forgot how bad the flashlight was

[outer depot]

I’m pretty sure most of the use animations are more inspired Tarkov and Far Cry than they are GAMMA

which tbh most of the GAMMA and Gunslinger anims are also somewhat related to Tarkov or Far Cry anyways

[viscid oxide]

There arent that many inventive ways to wrap toilet paper around your hand

[outer depot]

Or to pop pills

Or open a cheese wedge

Or drink a drank

Etc

[nocturne smelt]

I use this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1450

[hallow canopy]

When you go from a Dark room to (example) outside it causes also this insanely bright light instead of actually causing irl light

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, Eye Adaptation implementation is not very good.

And it's tied directly to the games lumen

[hallow canopy]

Here how it looks like in game

This is how it should look like

[nocturne smelt]

So you can't even adjust it that much without killing all the game lighting.

[hallow canopy]

Its annoying AF
But I play in Dark a lot thanks to NVG

[nocturne smelt]

Same, I prefer night now.

[hallow canopy]

From having a Mod, to actually playing with NVG

Dont even know what ones are better
Gen 2 or Gen 3

[nocturne smelt]

Vanilla? Gen3b

[hallow canopy]

Between them,the Resolution dont change only colour

[nocturne smelt]

But I'm a white phosphor fan.

So the obvious choice is 3b

[hallow canopy]

hmmm I like it,but I also like,GREEN

[nocturne smelt]

Green is def the nostalgic look.

White is just better now with modern tech.

[hallow canopy]

Hmmmm I agree on that

Still shouldnt the 3B be of more resolution?

Both Gen 2 and 3 seem same resolution

[nocturne smelt]

If they were going for realism the sharpness should be increased a bit on it.

[hallow canopy]

just the Goggles are different shape to look out from

[nocturne smelt]

White phosphor has better image quality and depth perception.

Which is why it's gained so much popularity.

[hallow canopy]

Interesting

Its like the Outdoor night lights going from the Yellow to LED

You can see colours better,but not shapes as good

[wanton arch]

Inspired by Gamma wha?

bro the entire build around Gamma / Anomoly is now you can repair guns on the go

with Gamma stripping the purpose of a gun mechanic...

repairing gun...

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

mf job is a mechanic

told other fuckers to repair it themself

[hallow canopy]

Kind of dont want to see that AI Baby

[wanton arch]

have to use it

[hallow canopy]

Surely there are better ones

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-scar-laugh-gif-12786287499780353633

[wanton arch]

and i will be honest i see no "Mechanic" from S2 is taken from Gamma ???

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6ejxTUbIAA8xNK.gif

i see non tbh it's just like the triology don't blame me when i cannot see it through my vanilia gameplay

btw we still don't have random NPC quests

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6rYuIkWkAAQg2i.gif

[normal sentinel]

Interesting, never played Tarkov and last Far Cry game I played was Instincts on Xbox

[golden hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif

[outer depot]

Also yes night vision being added with the spotting changes

I love being out at night in stalker games

Loved it in the OGs, really loved it in Anomaly/GAMMA with Beefs NVGs

Really love it in 2 both with modded and now normal NVG

It’s just peak

Especially in the rain

[normal sentinel]

Yeah night vision makes playing at nighttime tolerable now

I hated it on release you’d get aimbotted by bandits a mile away with pinpoint accuracy

[viscid oxide]

Getting sniped by a toz from 100m away was hilarious

[normal sentinel]

Specops tracksuit bandits

[hallow canopy]

Kind of dislike AI Life atm

Just wiped out a full squad of 8 Ward with Exo

random Stalker coming in to loot all

[finite needle]

Biblically accurate loners

just shoot them Stalker

[normal sentinel]

Funny being on the other end of it

[hallow canopy]

Yea if I didnt loot it all faster than him, would have gotten a Bullet to the head

Easy as that,just like in Trilogy

[finite needle]

The music playing in Icarus (60s prog hippie stuff and ska/reggae) is kinda suspect

[normal sentinel]

Icarus is generally suspect

Like the one soldier doing the monolith headwave

[latent heron]

Hi guys, has anyone encountered this error when starting up?

[finite needle]

Oh yeah, but that's mostly because of all the weird antennas that I just shoot

[normal sentinel]

Sucks that the base gets ||abandoned and overrun by zombies||

[tame lodge]

The error in question:

[finite needle]

||iirc originally after SIRCAA Icarus was meant to be rid of all the zombified ward and replaced by a anti Mykhlukha Freedom splinter cell, so the hippie music is giving me hope it wil be implemented||

||I miss old freedom, new freedom sucks||

[normal sentinel]

Lol, was that revealed through cut files?

[finite needle]

Yeah so take it with a grain of salt. For all intents and purposes, the Zulu Duty faction (Law) has been cut from the game

[normal sentinel]

I wish it had happened tbh, some areas are really lacking in hubs for guides / services

||Especially post SIRCAA||

[finite needle]

Post SIRCAA needs the most work. Pre SIRCAA stalker, in 1.7, is honestly very good. Post, not so much still.

There is so much potential in the open world

[nocturne smelt]

Post Sircaa feels like a different game.

[finite needle]

Post SIRCAA feels like the endgame, but about 20 hours too long

[nocturne smelt]

Length is fine as long as they give us things to do. There needs to be an overhaul of endgame side quests and reasons to keep exploring imo.

[normal sentinel]

I just finished SIRCAA because I wanted to see STALKERs with better armor on

Mercs with their Bulat tier armor on jumping you is pretty funny

[finite needle]

Exploring and wandering is fine, you find cool shit, but I wish we had some more secondary quests, considering the game is pretty good at atmosphere and narrative

but we get just to walk miles and miles

and then it's the endgame

[normal sentinel]

I'd say the core regions from the OG titles feel pretty fleshed out + the lesser zone

The further away from the center of the map you get the less there is though

I've just picked the game up recently again and got to the Duga questline, Malachite and Duga both feel like they were designed just for the end game story

Yantar also feels pretty dead, I miss Sakharov in his bunker

[golden hazel]

We'll probably see the old man when the dlc comes out

[finite needle]

Yeah I was expecting so much more to do in those areas (especially Malachite), also Rostok has like the arena and 1 quest from the barman, and Duty has 2 quest in total

I understand they want to save duty vs freedom for a big update, but right now is just depressing

at least with new a life we should see them kill each other in the world

[normal sentinel]

I wonder if they'll introduce some sort of faction war system in a Duty vs Freedom update

[golden hazel]

Technically it already exists

[normal sentinel]

I saw an overview of the alife system that's currently running and it seems like there's something to lairs being spawn points? Hard to test without modding

[finite needle]

Yeah my guess is that first they need to completey implement the hub system for a life, whcih is in 1.7 but not very great, and once it's working they can release a fully fleshed faction system

[golden hazel]

That's how the warfare system works

[finite needle]

which is where I hope the cold war in garbage comes in

[golden hazel]

Even in Anomaly lairs are spawn points

[finite needle]

People for some reason are convinced NPC don't spawn in old Stalker

they just exist

[golden hazel]

[normal sentinel]

They just hide it a lot better

[finite needle]

oh for sure, but the current system is pretty much the same used by CoP, only instead of spawning NPCs in a small area they spawn them into a bubble

[normal sentinel]

Yeah, the 100m radius is pretty small

[golden hazel]

They need to release the full mod kit for the CJ mod to come out already

[normal sentinel]

CJ mod?

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

It's the rule of modding, if it is moddable, CJ will be ported to it

[remote eagle]

[normal sentinel]

Lmao

Has anyone done a freeplay mod for stalker 2 yet?

[golden hazel]

Probably

But even if it's already been done it's probably broken with the new update

[normal sentinel]

Yeah, sounds like the new update broke a lot of mods

[finite needle]

I mean it's a pretty substantial update that changes how the game plays on a core level, why wouldn't it break mods?

[hallow canopy]

Sooo the Chimera is interesting

Its also faking a retreat to make you believe it is trying to flank

just to jump you

[remote eagle]

me with rpg :

[warped monolith]

Shrek to replace uncle sid

and... idk thomas the tank engine needs to replace someone to fulfill the PC game modding holy trinity

[golden hazel]

Chimera obvs

There's even rails near one of the encounters

[warped monolith]

peak

[remote eagle]

[remote eagle]

nah shrek to replace a controller and with voiceline when u hit you with your ranged attack GET AWAY FROM MY SWAMP

[finite needle]

replace the psi damage ghosts with that

psi damage irl

[tired flicker]

Saved ty

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/tanino-gimlet-hiruno-d'amour-horse-horse-of-wisdom-gif-8087630190955450711

[remote eagle]

[hallow canopy]

I think the Memory leak is being caused by the NVG's

or playing Stalker 2 for too long with em

[normal sentinel]

Weird, what happens?

[remote eagle]

UE5 happens

[warped monolith]

cause of death: UE5

[remote eagle]

[tame lodge]

this cordon cave can eat a dick

4 gravity anomalies a controller

artifact spawns under ground

and stash is full of nothing

[warped monolith]

the zone is a harsh mistress

[tame lodge]

gsc even more so

[slow cave]

Does anyone know where to get those silly SOC mods

Like the bloodsucker on a trike or a sidorovich anomaly detector?

[normal sentinel]

Yeah that makes sense

[outer depot]

I think you can do plenty with the map but the tools for making more integrated custom questlines aren't there yet

[normal sentinel]

That'd be a big factor for sure, I'm not really aware of the extent of modability STALKER 2 has

[tired flicker]

humble beginnings

[warped monolith]

hombl

[split crown]

yea I miss when games were reasonably sized

now they're all FAT

and BLOATED

[tired flicker]

yeah we should go back to 2000s map sizes and graphics

[split crown]

Amen brother

[warped monolith]

imagine all this computing power being used in npc AI and behavior simulation instead of these dumbass uncanny valley graphics that try to be photorealistic and just fail miserably at it

coupled with stupid excessive particles like a Michael Bay movie, awful lighting and horrible texture/shadow flickering

oh and ofc the huge ass maps full of nothing

[tired flicker]

still no fps issues, dropped latency even more with tweaks and expanded my mods some more

time for shading

[winter halo]

Stalker 2 at it again, this time something completely fresh

wtf is this

happens here and there, persists on certain angles and when walking in certain direction

found no way to replicate, UI works normally so it's not a GPU issue, it's straight up the games issue

Sometimes alt tabbing helps but not always - also, sometimes reload.

[warped monolith]

#╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting message check the messages after this, some guy said it's related to upscaling

[signal falcon]

ARC STALKER

[warped monolith]

ARC Stalkers

[slim moth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1832
cha-ching

[slim moth]

i heard switching to TAA helps. idk why that's happening to certain people with DLSS

[winter halo]

it only started happening since patch 1.7, this never happened before to me and I play on the same hardware since launch

thanks for the info, will try TAA

[winter halo]

upscaling as in DLSS? Maybe I should try FSR instead of DLSS

[slow cave]

Real

I’d love to also play gamma but like

200gb is obsurd

[split crown]

Gamma has such a massive collection of mods associated with it that I'm more understanding of why it's so jam-packed size wise.

Also

My experience with Gamma has mostly been stable optimization, so that already justifies the size lol. AAA slop titles come out in alpha or beta condition, full price, and weighing like 120+ gb.

[normal sentinel]

Working as intended

[tacit glacier]

Two types of STALKER 2 photos
Photorealistic and Debug Fullbright