╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[warped monolith]

base building, exploring and collecting ships were all there from day one

[unreal wagon]

base building wassnt day one

[tacit glacier]

By Atlas Rises the content was respectable but it was NEXT update that was the first major step.
And it only took 2 years

[sage wolf]

I’m getting to the point where I ALMOST have enough money to ball out with my corundum suit in stalker 2 :3

[frigid rain]

I hate collecting ships, ultimate time waster because no ship editor in game and then when you do ship editing outside of the game and get what you want, you realize a bunch of other things about the game

[tacit glacier]

The reason why NMS updates are hyped and so well received by the community is that Hello Games no longer has to adhere to a schedule here.
When an update is ready it comes out. Sure it might be buggy in some places but it also gets patched ludicrously fast.

[wicked adder]

Careful not to break it once you do, or it’ll be 100 gorillion Zonebucks

[frigid rain]

WORST thing in that game is fishing I fucking hate how the idea of fishing seems to infect various games. First it was skyrim and now no man's sky... whats next stalker 2?

[wicked adder]

Bro fucking HATES fishing

What a weird thing to be bent up about

[warped monolith]

just don't do it?

[frigid rain]

SKEEFA GO FISH SKEEEFA FOR THE SHINING ZONE!

[unreal wagon]

play destiny and report back

i literally stopped playing destiny cuz of fishing

[warped monolith]

I bet there are underwater artifacts people could fish out of ponds

[wicked adder]

Hell nah bungie hasn’t made a good game since halo odst

[tacit glacier]

I stopped playing Destiny 2 because its a fucking FOMO game.

Fishing is just a random mechanic you don't even have to interact with lmao

[warped monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912320242301149215/1322587261598040134/steam-laugh2.gif
"I literally stopped playing an entire game because of an optional side activity"

[unreal wagon]

when it released it was required for a lot of stuff

it was basically the focus of a whole season

[tacit glacier]

Oh no. It's like they made a mechanic and introduced it with a seasonal quest line.

[frigid rain]

if you use the unofficial patch in skyrim now you have to put up with a fishing mod as a requirement and any mods you have installed that don't compensate for the changes from the fishing content might fuck your house mods or any mods that change cities etc

[tacit glacier]

Doesn't change the fact Destiny 2 is one giant fomo simulator that locks you out of content if you don't do it fast enough.
I gave up after an entire storyline just vanished in front of my eyes.

[wicked adder]

Skyrim has fallen, millions must fish

[unreal wagon]

i miss paying 50 bucks for a dlc just to spent another 20 on the dlcs dungeon so i can play it

so i can have meta armor for like 1 update

[frigid rain]

Kingdom come deliverance was the same for me, run like hell or miss a bunch of things and even then you will miss some things.

[wicked adder]

Kingdom come should have had fishing tbh, I hope 2 has it

[unreal wagon]

i wonder how theyre gonna manage progress

[tacit glacier]

At least in Kingdom Come you can replay the game to see content you missed.
Destiny 2 literally removes one storyline and replaces it with another. You can basically never replay that part of the game.

[wicked adder]

Henry’s gonna fall on his head at the start of the game and forget all his skills

Like castlevania

[unreal wagon]

it would be so lame that its kinda funny again

[wicked adder]

I don’t see how they’d balance it any other way since Henry can basically be a mediaeval killing machine who can skin an entire animal in seconds, pick any lock and vanish in the smallest of shadows if you level all your stats

[tacit glacier]

Gothic 2 did it pretty organically ngl
Main hero gets buried in a temple after a cave in, spend a week underneath a bunch of rocks with only a magical ore suit keeping him alife from being crushed, and then is teleported out by Xardas.
Man literally didn't get to eat drink or even properly sleep for 7 days while under these conditions, makes sense he needs to work on his condition again here.

[wicked adder]

Maybe it’ll start with him being thrown in jail like it’s fucking oblivion and he’ll be malnourished

[tacit glacier]

Then there's Zelda Tears of the Kingdom that starts you with maxed out stats from previous game and shows you the reason why your stats get obliterated.

[plush radish]

So... why is the 5.45 stronger than the 5.56 in the game anyway? That, and the PKM using 7.62x39. Like, what?

[tacit glacier]

Anyway. This chat was derailed enough.

Back to stalker 2 people

[plush radish]

I get that it might be a balance thing since 7.62x54 is harder to get but seriously... just kind of irks me. If they wanted a machine gun that uses 7.62x39 they coulda just added the RPD.

[unreal wagon]

im thinking about doing a stalker 2 one year lockout challenge where i unlock one new region every month and have to get as powerful as possible in that region till the next one unlocks the exception are jupiter + prypiat, yaniv + red forest, yantar + rostok, cement factory + wild island and cooling towers + sircaa + swamp which count as one combined region so i can do it in exactly 12 months in which order do you guys think i should unlock the regions?

[tacit glacier]

It's been that way since Shadow of Chernobyl tbh so just treat it as an in universe oddity that doesn't match real life

[warped monolith]

that sounds boring as all hell

Why do most self-imposed 'challenges' sound so extremely dumb?

[wicked adder]

Because the areas aren’t really balanced that you’d not be having a lot of fun imo, but if you insist on doing it I’d say start from the swamps…

You’d be working your way up from the bottom right corner to the top left

[unreal wagon]

a terraria youtuber did this with bosses and the reason was to exaust every play stage in the game cuz if you play normal you can just get engame weapons in like 5 minutes

[warped monolith]

that's quite the exaggeration... speedrunning isn't "normal play"

[tacit glacier]

Won't really work in stalker because you can get pretty much end game weapons pretty early on

[wicked adder]

Saiga my beloved

[warped monolith]

and... there's a really, really huge gap of nuance between "5 minutes" and "one year"

[tacit glacier]

Something that irks me personally tbh.

[plush radish]

Or just make it shorter by killing absolutely everything and everyone in one region then just going to the next.

[warped monolith]

how's that gonna work with a-life randomly spawning new actors every so often?

[tacit glacier]

Reminds me of Solarint's UNISG challenge in Anomaly. Kill all faction leaders.

[unreal wagon]

i just want to limit myself cuz the game without much mod choice is just too easy and boring

[tacit glacier]

I finished stalker 2 and I'm gonna wait for it to cook and release first story content DLC before coming back.
By then it should have cooked enough..

[wicked adder]

Then do Skeeef’s pistol only

It’s canonically the only weapon skiff uses

[plush radish]

Stalker 2 is a lost cause. For now anyway. Until modders make it better. Fix it

[unreal wagon]

i only used his pistol till 40 hours it its aactually great

[tacit glacier]

Skif's pistol is literally more powerful than Gauss.

[warped monolith]

that's easy mode

[frigid rain]

The time sink involved to avoid quest breaking bugs by starting over is so massive in this game

[peak eagle]

The most hardcore fights with the biggest guns ever - cutscene starts with skif's pistol

[tacit glacier]

stalker 2 pretty much plays like vanilla trilogy so I wouldn't call it a lost cause. Just undercooked.

[wicked adder]

Slavjank games be like that sometimes

I expected nothing less

[tacit glacier]

Same tbh. I got what I expected ngl

[warped monolith]

overly dramatic to call it a 'lost cause'
it plays exactly like a sequel to CoP should

[unreal wagon]

tbh its not really a problem with the game almost every pve game is too easy without mods cuz when it comes down youre still playing against ai that can always be cheesed in some way

[frigid rain]

I was kinda hopeful that in the future bethesda would switch to UE5 or later but after playing stalker 2 I hope they come up with something else. Maybe this is why todd's face always looks like he is trying to calculate pi in his head all day long

[tacit glacier]

Supposedly an Oblivion remake is being made in UE5... We'll see how that goes.

[warped monolith]

only hope I have for this industry is for Crytek to release a new engine and give Epic some competition.
... assuming, of course, that whatever new CryEngine comes out isn't utter trash

[unreal wagon]

especially in open world games they not laid out for someone whos loot gobbling every single building in a game cuz most casual people dont play like that and i get it

[warped monolith]

Flawed AI is a game design issue
Exploiting the flawed AI is a player's choice

[unreal wagon]

if they release a new engine most people wont be able to play the games till 2030 lol

[frigid rain]

Why would you not take and take in these games? stuff is laying around for a reason

[wicked adder]

That’s just game ai for you, if you didn’t want exploitable game ai you’d play a game that’s online only and get cooked there

[unreal wagon]

i mean using cover and waiting for enemies to get close is already cheesing ai

[wicked adder]

Besides stalker 2 ai aren’t exactly pushovers with their Hitscan weapons and heat seeking grenades

[warped monolith]

does the AI not use grenades anymore?

[frigid rain]

they are greadiers

[unreal wagon]

i agree and i dont complain about ai being exploitable i just said thats the reason why pve games almost cant be hard without mods

[frigid rain]

master class A grenadiers

[wicked adder]

That last part in the CNPP gives me conniptions, every monolithin had a dozen grenades

[tacit glacier]

Hello it's 2030 and we are testing the brand new GeForce NTX 4080 Ti (Neural tech based GPU ) and today we ask the obvious question-
Will it run Crysis 4?

[wicked adder]

Stay where you are and eat grenade or run and move and eat Gauss

[unreal wagon]

probably pretty accurate prediction

[tacit glacier]

Feels like Shadow of Chernobyl all over again

[wicked adder]

Idk why they insist on making the end of every stalker game suck ass (COP was most bearable imo)

[frigid rain]

Between the time your HUD shows a red triangle and you start eating bullets, the npcs are invisible until they are not

[rapid jolt]

Run and move and eat gauss
Are you running in a straight line??? Gauss is the one occasion where serpentine would actually work lmfao

[frigid rain]

The AI uses serpentine lol

[unreal wagon]

and it worrks pretty good

[wicked adder]

The whole level is tunnels… there’s nowhere to go but a 9x9 square!

[frigid rain]

I use that in MW5 mercs and it works

[rapid jolt]

Simply uhhhh shoot them more than they're shooting you :^)))

[wicked adder]

That is eventually how I did it, yes

[unreal wagon]

just eat the grenade llike a man and medkit

[wicked adder]

It’s not unbeatable, it’s just really annoying

[unreal wagon]

literally most deaths in this game are cuz of stupid mistakes

[frigid rain]

if we had night vision then we could spot the npc popping in just before shooting and it would be visually obvious

[wicked adder]

There’s a reason they never added the binoculars after making the models for em

[unreal wagon]

ive had npcs spawn in the same room as me

[frigid rain]

any kind of threat illumination like in fallout 4 would immediately expose the combat bugs

[unreal wagon]

also the ai aim is too good over long range

they see you through 100 trees and a solid wall with a little crack in it

it doesnt do damage cuz of the long range damage drop off but still its annoying

[wicked adder]

It’s cause they’ve got hit scan. If they can see you they will be able to hit you

[rapid jolt]

AI need to have their folliage shooting abilities severely nerfed

[frigid rain]

I try my best to creep around with a sniper rifle but I have to run all over the map unless I want to still be in lesser zone a month or two from now and the game just spawns npcs near me a lot. Combat would be better if the npcs stayed in an area for a while and then moved on to another area but somehow we knew which faction wanted to go where

[rapid jolt]

Arma did it well where they can hide in the bushes and see it since that makes sense, but you'll have trouble seeing them. Instead S2 has bandits shooting through plants, grass, saplings and like 2 different bushes at me as I hide behind a tree

[frigid rain]

factional areas makes sense but only if npcs actually stay there for a while and don't spawn in 50m away all the time

[rapid jolt]

With perfect aim. And they literally have an effect for when they're shooting through bushes so it's not like it's gonna be unfair for them to hide in a bush that's reasonable for them to see you through

[frigid rain]

Maybe if there were a radio chatter component to out of combat movement and you could hear them on your PDA or whatever as you get close so you can either avoid their patrols or take them out

[unreal wagon]

and adding a mod that makes em miss also feels shitty cuz then they start missing at like 10 metres range

[frigid rain]

they don't need to miss while fighting mutants either

[mossy grail]

gsc surely will fix alife within a few weeks

[rapid jolt]

A-Life fix 2029, promise !!!!

[wicked adder]

GSC’s counter patch will surely come any day now…

[frigid rain]

I've never tried the faction warfare thing in gamma, how good or bad is it compared to stalker 2 current mess?

[unreal wagon]

imo you cant even compare them

[wicked adder]

Mein stalker… GSC couldn’t gather enough fixes to get a patch out

[warped monolith]

I remember there was a huge warning in the faction warfare mode saying it was unstable and whatnot

[frigid rain]

yeah I remember that

[unreal wagon]

do you guys think we maybe get multiple stalker 2 games

[wicked adder]

Stalker 2, 2

[warped monolith]

probably not, since they have DLCs coming

[frigid rain]

we get multiple npcs when a quest bugs out sure why not multiple stalker 2?

[wicked adder]

Faction war dlc les go

[unreal wagon]

imagine its just like nukaworld in fo4

and you can only do faction wars in the dlc zone

[frigid rain]

I think my quest bugs are a result of having three collars in my inventory instead of just one when I went to see dvupalov

[wicked adder]

Uh, that didn;t break anything for me

[unreal wagon]

there are no bugs just features

[frigid rain]

I picked the collars up early game because I thought hamster would buy them from me and then he no longer had dialogue to buy them so I got stuck with them

[wicked adder]

Zalyissia had duplicated NPCs but those were the only ones i saw

[frigid rain]

that and the beeping when I got close to one and collars being the only thing we can loot from a mutant

the chimera at the end of the arena quest had a greyed out x on the hud as if I should loot something from it but no beeping sound and I'm still stuck in the searching for past glory mission at the end. I bet if that quest had completed I would be able to loot collars again

[unreal wagon]

i thought youre talking about fnv casino dlc for a second

[frigid rain]

lmao no those explode

[latent carbon]

Hey guys, I have a 12700k, 3080ti, 64gb ddr4 with a WD 850x nvme. I'm running max settings @1440p DLSS Quality and fps is fine 80% of the time but when i get into towns and heavily populated area my fps tanks down into the 40's.

Anyone got a similar set up and have a optimized settings list?

[frigid rain]

This happens to everyone and if you stand near the player stash too long in rostok the game will freeze requiring a pc restart

[warped monolith]

is there a point where you're carrying too much weight and can't move at all, or can you still slow walk even if carrying 5 tons of shit?

[wanton arch]

when you reach max weight you cant move

[warped monolith]

as it should be

[wanton arch]

the higher you get to max the slower you are, but you can still "run" until max

[unreal wagon]

tbh im happy with the weight of everything except food

[warped monolith]

I was thinking of 'circumventing' the freeze at the rostok stash by just looting everything and going to the trader to sell stuff

[unreal wagon]

sadly you cant go over 139.9 weight

[wanton arch]

you could always make it so ammo and consumables weight 0

[lone saffron]

Is there any way to fix that lighting ghosting issue. Where it looks like all the minor reflections and stuff move and shift regardless of anti-aliasing and makes everything oddly bright.

Its tough to see in the pic but like...I cannot seem to get clip recording to work

But like as you idle it looks like everything with a little bit of lighting is like...moving

[wary orbit]

Sorry i'm busy imagining you at the business end of my flamethrower.

[wise zinc]

i just shared it i did not make it

[wary orbit]

Guilty by association

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[warped monolith]

if I'm gonna cheat, I might as wel make everything weigh 0 and give myself 3 morbillion koupons

[wary orbit]

not a number

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-say-the-line-gif-22118591

[young meteor]

hello

[lone saffron]

I am not a number! I am a FREE MAN!

[steady swan]

5.56 is truly mid, still havent even used a gun that chambers it

[tough kelp]

yo, what's the state of stalker2 +mods?

[river lintel]

They talk

[tough kelp]

my b about caps

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/david-byrne-same-as-it-ever-was-always-has-been-same-gif-22266189

[river lintel]

I love that someone redid that whole music video with G man and people called it weird and stilted. Only for a side by side comparison to prove it was perfect

https://tenor.com/view/plug-walk-plug-walk-david-byrne-once-in-a-lifetime-gif-18116313

[river lintel]

Isn't 5.56 one of the most prolific rifle cartridges?

[steady swan]

sure, but so is 5.45 and its just better

basically all the 9x18 guns have better damage and pen then 5.56 guns for awhile

but by late game both 5.56 and 5.45 are pretty ass

[warped monolith]

[wary orbit]

Microso... no NO!... must resist...

[lime umbra]

[warped monolith]

I was gonna say 5.56 is "mid" by design because it's a "mid"dle ground between a pistol round and a rifle round

[steady swan]

yea but like, it should have better base stats than any pistol caliber, which is not the case

[wary orbit]

why?

[steady swan]

its a bigger round? higher grain count? its for a rifle? i could go on

[lime umbra]

pistols only beat it in damage by 7

[warped monolith]

how is 5mm bigger than 9mm

[lime umbra]

and suck at everything else

[wary orbit]

is it? In what world is 5.56 or 5.45mm bigger than 9mm?

[steady swan]

alright you got me there, but does it not have a higher grain count?

[wanton arch]

12g is bigger then both

[steady swan]

shotguns actually work quite well though

[wary orbit]

that only effects how flat the bullet is at distance

[lime umbra]

like even the clusterfuck does more damage per shot than the skeeftol

[wanton arch]

shotguns = made to kill birds, used to kill people

[steady swan]

it doesnt affect stopping power?

[wary orbit]

not one bit

[warped monolith]

so Einstein was wrong?

[steady swan]

ok so why dont all world militaries use 9x18 over rifle calibers like 5.56 and 5.45

[lime umbra]

what even is this convo

[wary orbit]

because thise are pistol/smg rounds and they are less accurate over distance

[steady swan]

people trying to rationalize why pistol rounds are stronger than rifle rounds @lime umbra

[lime umbra]

because its video game logic
pistols are single fire
thus needing higher damage to compensate
while rifles are full auto

[wary orbit]

a pistol round will do more damage to a unarmored target within its effective range than a smaller caliber rifle round.

[steady swan]

ok so why do they not only have higher damage, but higher pen then some rifles

[steady swan]

yea and the logic is ass, thats my point

[wary orbit]

Magic

[steady swan]

that makes no sense then lmao

[limpid quarry]

its an arcade shooter style if u want mil sim realistic type stuff go for that type of game its not made for it

[lime umbra]

rifles have inately way higher pen
than pistols do
so they do deal more applied damage than the pistols can

[steady swan]

i dont even want milsim, i just want rifle calibers to be better than pistol rounds lmao

[limpid quarry]

there are literally artifacts that protect uagainst bullets

[steady swan]

not true, the buket which you can get very early has better pen then the m4

[wary orbit]

there is NO better. There is only correct for the applied situation or not

[lime umbra]

the 416 is a shit ass early game rifle
ofc its ass

[steady swan]

my ENTIRE point is that it should be decent for awhile, better than an early game smg at the very least at SOMETHING, yet its worse in every way, which is why 5.56 is absolute trash in this game

[lime umbra]

its not tho

[steady swan]

im not saying it should carry me through end game

[lime umbra]

rifles are bad if your only usage of them is to 1 tap fire them

[steady swan]

idk how you can look at the m4s stats and think its not ass haha. literally every smg or other rifle is better than it and the g36

[lime umbra]

well yeah you are supposed to go get the good 556 rifles

[wary orbit]

I will agree that weapon stats in Stalker 2 are ASS in general.

[lime umbra]

the m4 is only the entry level of rifles

[steady swan]

it takes getting to the kharod to find a decent 5.56 gun and at that point there are much better options

[lime umbra]

the kharod is fucking busted as all hell

its almost as if weapon progression was a thing

[wary orbit]

All weapons of the same caliber should do the exact same damage

[lime umbra]

actually hang yourself

[warped monolith]

[steady swan]

i mean I understand the point, its just silly and i like to complain

[lime umbra]

[steady swan]

someone will probs make a mod that makes 5.56 just a bit better and ill get that one day

[lime umbra]

like you think ppl care that the assault rifle in halo is 556 ?
while the starting pistol deals nuclear amounts of damage per shot ?

[wary orbit]

i'm gonna ignore the fact that you just asked me to kill myself and will instead ask for your reasoning

[steady swan]

till then i see no point in using the caliber

[steady swan]

man this isnt halo, I can expect a bit more realism just a bit

[wary orbit]

i will however nail you to this and will need you to answer

[lime umbra]

well its easy
its game progression
if all guns across same caliber dealt the same damage
there is no reason to stop using what you already have
thus making the game feel stale and samey

its like saying that all metal armors in KCD should be the same stat wise

[steady swan]

just make the better guns have better pen....

[wary orbit]

ah ok so different upgrades and possible attachments are no reason to switch between weapons of the same caliber in your eyes.

[steady swan]

or accuracy, or recoil control, or other stats

[lime umbra]

they have better pen and slightly more damage
the kharod only does 2 more damage than the 416
while having 60% more pen

[wary orbit]

I wonder why Tarkov has so many guns using the same caliber

and they all do the same damage

[warped monolith]

I wonder why Tarkov isn't in the same subgenre as Stalker

[steady swan]

then why not make them do the same damage

[lime umbra]

is this were true
the game is over once you get a 416
and you know it
since all the attachments in the game
realistically fit it

[steady swan]

again, different guns could still just have other better stats

[wary orbit]

Tarkov is more Stalker than Stalker 2 is buddy. It started as a Stalker like project but could not continue with that initial idea because of well reasons. They also expanded greatly on the groundwork the OG Stalker games layed down. The fact that they are both looter shooters alone is enough to compare them.

[warped monolith]

[wanton arch]

Bro never heard of "velocity" "barrel length" or "powder burn"

[wary orbit]

none of that effects damage done to soft tissue

well velocity might to a degree

[lime umbra]

if anything being too fast makes it overpen

[rugged geyser]

If I shoot you with an RPG you explode

[wary orbit]

but the smaller the bullet the less beneficial the velocity becomes in terms of damage

[steady swan]

damn should i kill everyone in the comissary to get a single stash

[wary orbit]

And the clueless one is clearly you. There is no benefit in educating you so i won't. Believe what you want. I will keep with the german proverb of "Lass die Leute dumm sterben"

[sour narwhal]

waaa stalker 2 raaa stalker 2 aa

[sour narwhal]

Lmlao i did the brood dirty that way

I wonder what would happen had I jsut left these people alone and never killed off their bandit clans

[wary orbit]

it actually becomes beneficial for soft tissue damage when the bullet is slower at a certain point, if the bullet tumbles it will increase the damage significantly

[steady swan]

i already killed the brood off awhile ago and sided with roosevelt but hes there now and im ok with him so i dont really wanna nuke them over a single energy drink and some bullets haha

[sour narwhal]

I kinda like the garbage storyline, I wouldn't mind expanding upon this internal bandit fuckery

Like imagine an entire game or enormous overhaul addition/mod that just really deeply expands and explores the web of intrigue between the bandit's sub-factions

[steady swan]

yea it was a fine quest line, have you got to the sultansk yet? theres a similar line there

[sour narwhal]

Yeah, i've been through there, I'm more towards the end of the game

[warped monolith]

[steady swan]

i got sad cause my three captains quest got bugged so the moment i finished talking to the chick who gives the quest both beard and the other guy insta died

[warped monolith]

oh wait I should've replied differently

[warped monolith]

There, fixed.

[short wren]

Which one is better, hilka or veles detector?

[steady swan]

veles

[warped monolith]

hilka has range, veles has accuracy

[sour narwhal]

lmaoooo wtf

[wary orbit]

Ok let me phrase this differently, what you think does not matter as long as your National Soccer Team has not beaten ours by 7:1

[steady swan]

if you dont know spawns, you can carry both and run around with the hilka out and then when you get close switch to the veles

[sour narwhal]

I heard somewhere that germans are really super proud of a particular football match that they won, I think it was the world cup?

[sour narwhal]

I wish there was a higher generation of detector that had hilka range with the veles ui lol. i hate having to perpetually switch them back and forth

45 on the hilka is max range on the bear before it stops detecting btw

[steady swan]

its pretty annoying, but if you get sick of it just use an artifact map

[sour narwhal]

I need to test what number on the hilka is the max detection range of the veles

[wary orbit]

what does the range matter when you can only collect the artifact at armlength anyways?

[sour narwhal]

Well like i wanna know what number on my hilka is the lowest at which point i can swap to veles

So like I know that as long as my hilka reads 45, I can switch to bear and it'll give me a reading

[steady swan]

veles does have pretty good range, I wanna say 30-40m

maybe more, im bad at judging distance

[lime umbra]

In the time it takes you to swap the hilka to the veles
You could have ran the distance difference between the 2

[sour narwhal]

Its smuch easier to deduce directiom with the velese or bear than it is with the hilka tho

[warped monolith]

if you swap to the veles at that distance, will it work?

[sour narwhal]

I just use hilka for initial detectin as im wandering, close in on the rough area, get to 45, swap to bear/veles, then close directly in on it

[sour narwhal]

Thats what I wanna test. I figure since its a rare detector, itll be like... idk, 60? before I can switch to veles

Meaning I can do it from further away

[wary orbit]

sounds like a lot of unecessary steps. If i see a anomaly field i walk there, take out my detector, if a artifact is there i walk in and collect it.

[stiff agate]

All of my gear is cooked

[sour narwhal]

I cant always tell if something is an anomaly field, some of them dont look like the typial anomaly field, particualrly electro and acid ones

[stiff agate]

I’m gonna go broke

I just heard a guy go ulll

[sour narwhal]

I also just typically like to make artifact collection as quick, easy, and efficient as humanly possible, cause i really hate the process of walking next to anomalies while my beeper is beeping in my ear, playing "warmer.... colder...." with an artifact while humans or mutants start to aggro me

Nothing worse than getting lit up by ward or mercs or bloodsuckers while you're playing marco-polo with what winds up being like. a fkn moonlight

Game just looooooves to hand out moonlights like they're candy. I haven't even found a compass yet lol

And I have none of the altered items, i need to check a guide for those

[lone saffron]

Easiest one is the weird ball in the Bulba anomaly. It's right there in the Lesser Zone. iirc as far as mechanics go it's a weak physical protection always and when standing still it is a medium protection.

[steady swan]

use the veles then, it makes arti hunting a piece of cake

[warped monolith]

time to start testing then or stick with what you know and swap at 45

[stiff agate]

Guys I have an exosuit is it good

[warped monolith]

no

[wary orbit]

disregard what he said. Yes Exo is good, how good depends on the version of Exo you have

[stiff agate]

Cough cough diamond at wild island quests step

[wary orbit]

diamond is widely regarded as the best exo

[wanton arch]

just learn the anomaly fields and you'll never have to swap again

[stiff agate]

So I have the best exosuit very early game

[wary orbit]

yes

[warped monolith]

make sure to install the sprint upgrade

[stiff agate]

Hehehehe

[stiff agate]

Already done I spent like 40k on upgrading the exo and then repairing my guns from an emission

Then I’m gonna to Tania after anomaly hunt buy tons of ammo and the saiga

Quick question how am I supposed to find anomalies with first detector

[wanton arch]

faster it blinks, closer you are

[steady swan]

this spot just has so many npc spawns its insane, i didnt even kill all these guys

[wary orbit]

i see maybe one corpse

[steady swan]

did you notice the compass?

[wary orbit]

so you are a pirate with plenty of digging ahead

[steady swan]

AYE MATEY

another wave spawned holy shit, and i was almost done looting

[wary orbit]

oh nooo more free loot

[steady swan]

RIP major fuchs

[stiff agate]

Chem zone no enemies my butt I just attacked by 5 at the first anomaly

I’m cooked

My exo is at half

[wary orbit]

Chimera will like that. They hate raw

[warped monolith]

[south bison]

hey, anyone using nexus to mod stalker 2? if so, any suggested mods?

[steady swan]

i can share my list if you want

[south bison]

thatd work

[steady swan]

ok gimme a min

gonna DM you cause it includes links so its a lot of text, but not a shit load of mods

[south bison]

solid

[stiff agate]

Good thing I’m going artifact hunting

[wary orbit]

mandatory mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/853

[south bison]

fucking goofy

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-silly-gif-5995970431905453935

[south bison]

i wonder if there is a way to use AI in the form of a plug in to randomly generate weapon skins and such

[warped monolith]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/292

[stiff agate]

I wish the (dies) happened every time anyone died

So just randomly walking bland npc name dies

[wary orbit]

words, many many words

[summer schooner]

Watching the colonel point it at me and take it apart like this, would bring a whole new meaning to the game

[south bison]

rather just get that if stalkers from a friendly faction die

[river lintel]

I'm sorry that I started an argument about 5.56 then dipped. But I will say 5.56 and 5.45 in a practical setting are largely the same with 5.56 having a higher muzzle velocity

[steady swan]

I think i started it? it doesnt really matter, i just wish 5.56 was all around a bit better than it is

[wanton arch]

hey i use that one, dont talk shit about my AK

[river lintel]

I.had mentioned "you say it's mod when it's one of the most prolific rifle cartridges" then dipped because I'm at work lol

I wish if a gun used the same bullet it has the same damage/pen because that's how bullets work

[steady swan]

yea my counterpoint is that 5.45 is just as common if not moreso and generally better

no worries either way gotta get that work done

[river lintel]

It has lower recoil but also a lower muzzle velocity meaning less effective at longer ranges. They are more or less sidegrades of each other

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-boy-here-we-go-again-oh-dear-omg-alright-then-gif-20490490

[limpid quarry]

if u havent killed a Chimera purely with your knife u get no right to talk about bullet dmg

[warped monolith]

in real life

[steady swan]

that is an absolutely goofy argument lmao

[river lintel]

I know it was mentioned. But even in a non milsim setting it's just weird a different tube makes bullet magically hit harder

[limpid quarry]

its not goofy its 100% correct

[warped monolith]

even in realistic settings, different tubes might produce different muzzle velocities

[vivid nymph]

after updates i get crash when open my inventory how i can fix it or i need start new game?

[steady swan]

have you tried verifying the game files?

[limpid quarry]

every gun should do the same dmg because in real life 1 bullet is all it takes to kill u tbh if u aim well enough

[vivid nymph]

delete all mods and verify files/

[river lintel]

But we are talking barrel lengths that differ by maybe a millimeter or two. Especially at the ranges you fight in in stalker that isn't much of a difference

[lone saffron]

What do y'all prefer for early-mid assault rifles? The AK, the Fora, or the AR416?

[wary orbit]

Bofors 40mm

[limpid quarry]

first playthrough fora 2nd AR just because its fun to have full attachments

[steady swan]

ak, personally

[wanton arch]

fora cause 5.45

[river lintel]

That is objectively not true and you have a small chance to survive a "well aimed" shot with timely aid

[vivid nymph]

or just verify files?

[ashen ridge]

The length of barrel has a significant effect on velocity to a point of diminishing and negative return when all the powder burns at x length

[limpid quarry]

Wrong pew pew u die die i studied bullet velocity in middle school

[river lintel]

Honestly? Just go ti cooling towers and grab the free dnipro

[steady swan]

honestly not sure, if you dont have anything super crazy for mods maybe just copy and paste the list into a temp folder then verify

[vivid nymph]

ye i have simple mods

[ashen ridge]

Look at .22 vs .22 winmag in a rifle/pistol
.22 out of a rifle goes as fast as winmag out of a barrel 1/4 the length

[lone saffron]

Wait...there's a Dnipro at the cooling towers? Where?

[river lintel]

I studied various cases of people surviving traumatic head wounds in college

[summer schooner]

My friend survived getting shot by 9mm in his aorta so.

[golden hazel]

Another day in HoC tuah chat

[river lintel]

On top if the flame anomaly tower. There's an external ladder. It's at 30% durability

[lone saffron]

:o

[steady swan]

then copy paste the list and delete the ones in the ~mods folder and try? Im not 100% ive never done it. if that doesnt work maybe disable all the mods and see if one of them is causing the crash

[limpid quarry]

i studied the bullets and they told me once they enter a body we die so idk man

[wary orbit]

doubt that

[lone saffron]

Welp. Guess I'm taking a detour next time I'm at the Cement Factory.

[stiff agate]

I jumped in

[warped monolith]

if it's not low quality bait it's "muh realism" and "get free high end gear at the early game by sequence-breaking and using guides to optimize the fun out of your game"

[summer schooner]

Not talking shit on ytour ak 🤣

[ashen ridge]

Yea if you are getting crashes today that seemingly no changes has caused, try removing your most recent mod and remerging

[warped monolith]

did his lungs get blown out?

[steady swan]

pretty sure theres also a free SVU-Mk3 in that region as well, my fav sniper

[stiff agate]

I found the exo by myself

[ashen ridge]

Sometimes
The game just goes full monka after PC reboot

[summer schooner]

Bro, that's so fucking cool you doubt it. So cool bro, I'm literally just shaking that you told me your opinion because I'm so happy.

[stiff agate]

Decided to do parkour cause of stashes and found it

[lone saffron]

Swank

[river lintel]

To be fair, cooling towers is entirely optional

[summer schooner]

No, but it did fuck up his left lung to the point it doesn't really work. Too much blood loss damaged the tissue.

[frigid rain]

DAMMIT!!!!!! I loaded an old save from just before the controller fight in the X5 lab because the last time I did that fight the game bugged out on me when I hit that anomaly trying to get to the controller and suddenly I was under the game world. So this time that didn't happen I shot the dam controller in the face until it died and picked up the quest related stuff there and made my way out of there AGAIN... lugged all that loot back to dvupalov and STILL NO DAM SCHSHERBA in the room with dvupalov WTF!!!!! where the hell is that guy? I was certain he would be there THIS TIME FUCK!!!!!

[summer schooner]

Dude was blue in the lips when he somehow managed to get inside before he lost too much blood.

[wary orbit]

i don't doubt that your friend may have been shot or survived that. it is however very unlikely that he survived a ruptured aorta caused by a bullet

[river lintel]

Borked save is borked

[ashen ridge]

Have you tried finding a bed then going back?

[summer schooner]

I know that's unlikely. Happened though.

[wary orbit]

doubt it

[ashen ridge]

Also might be a fix for uetools

[wanton arch]

the latter two cause an increase in the former these affect armor penetration and yes, soft tissue damage based on how far away the target is

[warped monolith]

@golden hazel read this and the following messages #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting message
free entertainment
have a laugh

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/so-cool-ken-ryan-gosling-barbie-movie-awesome-gif-373387493549880442

[wanton arch]

that said I don't think you should hang yourself and I get your ideas <3

[river lintel]

The chances aren't great but higher than you might think. Like a 10% chance if you're treated quickly and well

[summer schooner]

Yeah, we had a trained EMT on site. If it wasn't for her he'd be dead.

[wary orbit]

the only chance you are surviving a ruptured aorta is if you are rupturing it in the OR

[summer schooner]

Wow, so glad the non-expert is telling us how things in real life MUST work with absolutely NO variation or consideration to how the world works. 😄

[limpid quarry]

guys i actually have an honest question for once

bullets get hot right? how hot does a bullet have to theoretically be to immediatly cauterize the wont again ? and is that even possible?

[summer schooner]

If the bullet does that, then something is majorly fucked up. The bullet wouldn't even shoot halfway right at that temperature.

[wary orbit]

might aswell say my friend hot beheaded but he survived it

[warped monolith]

too hot to even function as a bullet

[summer schooner]

Cool, keep telling us, we don't fucking care bro.

[ashen ridge]

They are not that hot

[sour narwhal]

Truuuuuu but I don't really enjoy travelling across the zone for stuff like that tho

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/kevster-gif-8334992430586559015

[ashen ridge]

Also air causes an insulating cushion etc

[river lintel]

Thats not the ONLY chance. Sure 8 out of 10 people don't get treated in time but thats still a 20% chance you do

[limpid quarry]

so basically glowing red?

[summer schooner]

Yes.

[limpid quarry]

thanks !

[ashen ridge]

If it was hot enough to cauterize a wound, it would be molten metal in the air

[frigid rain]

Oh I have been through all that last night and console commands the whole thing

[sour narwhal]

I mean I do, but I don't. Assembling a route of anomaly fields to hit in search of artifacts is useful but, haven't really taken the time to do that yet. Otherwise I dunno i dont normally like travelling on foot super super far across the zone cause god knows with my human and mutant a-life configuration changes it'll be a literal war to get there

[wanton arch]

i enjoy knowing the anomaly fields and going in routes to farm them, so yeah, its kinda my thing

[ashen ridge]

Rip

[limpid quarry]

honestly that sounds like a brutal as fuck weapon to be shooting molten metal prolly banned by geneva conventions tho

[sour narwhal]

Yuhhh I need to develop a strat or use the interactive map more often lol

[steady swan]

my guy was up at like 2am trying this haha

[wary orbit]

the average person has 6 liters of blood. the average flow of the aorta is 6 liters of blood per minute. you do the math

[ashen ridge]

The fucking crossbow in halflife is probably the closest thing to a realistic weapon to do this

[summer schooner]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3388701012

Here ya go.

[wanton arch]

i have two routes i made if you want them, one from lesser zone to garbage and another from cement to garbage

[warped monolith]

treated in time. aka immediately. Like the guy said they had an EMT on site when it happened. They treated the wound immediately.

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[limpid quarry]

interesting thanks

[warped monolith]

the fact that it's a hitscan weapon is hilariously terrifying.
Or terrifyingly hilarious.

[river lintel]

The math that medical data is showing me the chance is 1 in 5 if triage begins fast enough

[wary orbit]

i'm sure the EMT opened up the chest, worked his way past the ribcage lungs and heart found his way to the aorta and fixed it up in under a minute.

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-nerd-actually-nerd-glasses-well-yes-but-actually-no-gif-5597798959730072444

[wary orbit]

god you people are stupid as fuck

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cheeseburger-burger-cheezburger-om-gom-gif-4210864688339297352

[summer schooner]

I'd rather be stupid than toxic af.

[limpid quarry]

why not both ?

[warped monolith]

had to bring out the big gun

[river lintel]

How am I stupid I'm looking at medical journals through my fiancés university access?

[summer schooner]

All bro does is sit on here and insult people day in and day out pretty much. Oh, you use a different gun in a video game than him? He will write you a small paper explaining how you're wrong.

[warped monolith]

then again what to expect from someone who thinks "Tarkov is more Stalker than Stalker 2"

[summer schooner]

As I said, I'd rather be stupid than toxic.

[limpid quarry]

Thats a crazy fucking hot take

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-heads-back-comes-the-part-laughing-smile-gif-17788811

[tacit glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7WiZ0caKAI

[mint holly]

tarkov sucks

[steady swan]

Says the guy who said if you cant kill a chimera with a knife you cant have an opinion on gunplay

[limpid quarry]

u really arent the sharpest tool in the shed are ya?

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-brando-massacred-gif-8593439218992598591

[river lintel]

Also I'm now in research mode and they are appearantly making strives so an aortic aneurysm and/or rupture are more survivable. I'm seeing things dated 2022 that advancements were made that could lead to ling term recovery

[frigid rain]

Sheeeeeet try 4am:-( This DAMN GAME!!!! I think the bug for this quest is caused by the latest update, I had three collars when I met dvupalov and he took all three instead of just one. So I wonder if that bugged the later quest for schsherba collar collection in the name of science.

[steady swan]

for what, not being able to discern digital sarchasm?

[warped monolith]

p!ew

[plucky ibex]

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[limpid quarry]

not being able to see an obvious joke post, i mean u really think someone would bring up that argument ?

like cmon man its the internet but bro

[summer schooner]

Yeah, I agree, I saw the gif and thought it was the normal one, not whatever that abomination is.

[steady swan]

yea i actually do, people are really entitled lmao

[frigid rain]

Console commands for this game are a dam joke they don't do the same thing for everyone

[river lintel]

Because you aren't using tone indicators

[steady swan]

i have 100% seen dumber arguments from people who are serious

[river lintel]

Don't you need to install a tool to actually use commands?

[limpid quarry]

ye UE tools

[frigid rain]

Yeah I did that too

[warped monolith]

what's the point of making a sarcastic joke if you're gonna use 'tone indicators' to make it obvious
the point of it is to make people misunderstand and take the bait

[river lintel]

[tacit glacier]

That gif became the very thing it swore to destroy

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-upset-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-19823085

[tacit glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-i-hate-you-anakin-i-hate-you-i-dont-like-you-gif-18829084

[steady swan]

if theres anything im good at, its taking the bait lmao, my friends used to fuck with me so hard but im much better at telling in person than i am online, because people are that dumb that im not sure if theyre serious or not

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/love-forever-cute-penguin-hi-hello-gif-17426778716212929693

[frigid rain]

All I get from google about this dam quest bug is a bunch of reddit threads that all say the same dam thing and a couple of steam forums posts with workarounds that don't work

[river lintel]

i mean, fair, he's trying to make people take the bait

[tacit glacier]

Wait that's not the right scene

[river lintel]

For what?

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-burning-lava-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-gif-17442159

[frigid rain]

in search of past glory mission bug schsherba is not in the room with dvupalov so can't turn in the blueprints

[wanton arch]

gullible like me

[limpid quarry]

general rule of thumb for me, dont take most stuff i say for real i am trolling like 90% of the time lol

[steady swan]

[river lintel]

Because some quests are fucked in a way that they are bricked the moment you start them. So you need to load a save PRIOR to it starting

[frigid rain]

DarthvaderscreamingNOOOOOOO!!!!!onthetable.gif

[river lintel]

I had to do that for talking to scar and a few others

That's why you keep hard saves

[wanton arch]

hard save after every main quest, is my rule of thumb

[frigid rain]

the only bug I had to reload to get past was zalyssia defense so I feel blessed but now I feel cursed

[summer schooner]

I hard save before and after every main quest, and sometimes after side quests if they took a while.

And I stg I'm gonna destroy my F5 button.

[frigid rain]

I have no save for that quest before talking to schsherba

[river lintel]

Well if you can reload to restart in search of past glory your save might just be softlocked

[steady swan]

Does anyone know how to clear tasks from barkeep or harpy? i turned them in but theyre still in my journal and i cant get jobs from them anymore

[wanton arch]

mine survived 240 hours of F5 each 30 seconds

[river lintel]

Oh so you might just be SOL ngl

[summer schooner]

Then maybe i have hope. I thought I used it a lot on Gamma. Stalker 2 makes my quick saving in gamma look like dark souls saving.

[stiff agate]

How do I get cash quick

[wanton arch]

artifact farm

[river lintel]

My f5 key has seen many abuses and lives on. Razer keyboards hold up over time real well

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-hot-fuzz-doris-thatcher-gif-24512760

[river lintel]

Artifacts

[stiff agate]

No help

[summer schooner]

Seriously. Money comes from artifacts and killing people and selling their shit.

[river lintel]

No that's actually the second best option

[summer schooner]

Literally, lol.

[stiff agate]

Where do I sell them at for lots

[ashen ridge]

Install a mod that actually puts generic lootables in the game

[frigid rain]

Yeah... maybe they fix it in the next patch but we don't get that until sometime NEXT YEAR fuck...

[wanton arch]

i have a problem cause i HATE to lose progress, so i end up saving after every 30 seconds so i dont have to walk 100 meters all over again

someone had a hella cozy hideout down here

[ashen ridge]

Because there in the files, bunch of icons, some meshes
Never got finished

[summer schooner]

Fucking felt so much. In most games I don't care, but in stalker, you don't know if at the end of your casual 500 meter walk, your ass is gonna get jumped by like, 5 bloodsuckers, lol.

[river lintel]

Vendors have 2 price mods. Good prices (like Eugene) and bad prices (like sidor or ragman)

[wary orbit]

IRL i'd say find out what magic saved @summer schooner s friend

[river lintel]

Which is in 3 days

[wary orbit]

ingame Artifacts

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-in-fact-indeed-gif-7459854242741763931

[stiff agate]

WHERE

[river lintel]

IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE SAME PRICE REGARDLESS

[frigid rain]

All because devs didn't put ATV in stalker 2 so we wouldn't have to walk and run everywhere

[summer schooner]

Every vendor (I've met) gives me the same sell prices on almost all goods, regardless of anything, outside of Hamster.

[stiff agate]

GUYS ram 2 or sagia

[wary orbit]

its not my fault the inside of your head looks like this -> 🧱

[wanton arch]

you can buy a car and a helicopter if you have enough money

[river lintel]

Yeppers, I think there's only like 3 low ball merchantz

[frigid rain]

upgraded saiga or stay with non upgraded ram2

[limpid quarry]

ammo and guns sell better at armor vendors in rostok, ragmann is a scammer dont sell to him artifacts dont matter meds sell better at medics thats my observation atleast

[stiff agate]

So saiga and upgrade as I go

[river lintel]

Ram 2 does more damage on paper but saiga shoots way faster

[summer schooner]

Well, at least I know I can sell shit to anyone basically. Thanks mate.

[ashen ridge]

Fyi if you use mechanic vendor enabler mod they all are bad prices

Never sell to them

[frigid rain]

Those are joke quests right?

[wanton arch]

maybe

[summer schooner]

Skiffffffffffffaaaaaaaaa! Get to the choppa!

[ashen ridge]

Why can I hear that in star's voice

[frigid rain]

SKEEEEEFA GET TO DE BUGGED QUEST SKEEEFA!!!!!

[river lintel]

ALSO if you REALLY want to get the most cash then you can save +150m from an anomaly cluster and reload until you get rare or legendary artifacts to make the most money. But thats tedious and sucks the fun out of hunting

[wanton arch]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-ogse-ogsr-helicopter-watch-your-jet-gif-22273317

[summer schooner]

SKEEEEEEEEEEEEFAAAAAAAAA WE MUST SACRIFICE THE ZONE TO SAVE THE ZONE TO REPAIR AND EXPAND THE ZONE! SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! falls on floor dramatically as if life is over

[steady swan]

you could also save up 12k creds and run to yaniv to buy a veles, makes arti hunting much easier. theres also interactive maps that you can use to make farming routes with

[summer schooner]

Scar is just a goofy ass dude (ignore the blood heart)

[river lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/don't-make-me-tap-the-sign-simpsons-bus-gif-5399805801037462082

[summer schooner]

This was the exact meme going through my head when I typed that out 🤣 thank you good sir.

[stiff agate]

Should I keep the svd or sell it

[limpid quarry]

we all know that "Spark" isnt spark because an OG member said they are all fake and Scar is just a maniac thats using a name for himself that isnt him or the group at all

[frigid rain]

Dam this fucking quest fuking shit

[wanton arch]

or just use my arti farm routes

[river lintel]

I've several things saved

[stiff agate]

How do you know what you get

[river lintel]

Anomaly types. Grav, elec, flame, produce different rocks

[limpid quarry]

u Safe 150m away, run in loot artifact if it isnt waht u want reload save and arti gets rerolled

[wanton arch]

im kinda glad anomalies like this are rare bc when I see them its always super cool

[summer schooner]

"Mild Snowflake"

[frigid rain]

We the people who play games in this world haven't had a NEW NORMAL game in five years and along comes stalker 2 but all these dam bugs it might as well have been delivered on a platter by the joker

[limpid quarry]

first stalker game for you ?

[river lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-shocked-shock-mild-gif-5292523

[stiff agate]

Is it even worth it to repair my exo

[limpid quarry]

its not that expensive anymore

[frigid rain]

First normal not HR in the room game in five dam years

[river lintel]

Depending on how fucked up it's still several k

[stiff agate]

35k is still expensive

[limpid quarry]

then again i am sitting on like 10 million coupons so nothing is expensive to me

[stiff agate]

Also how did we come up with coupons

[limpid quarry]

a nod to old Ukrainian Currency

[stiff agate]

Oh

[river lintel]

Someone in sultan mentions it's a freedomers idea. He was probably into crypto

[frigid rain]

the funny thing about that word is that it is related to how govts could get out of a sovereign debt crisis from way back when

[warped monolith]

before, after.... and during

[wanton arch]

bandits are crypto bros confirmed

[stiff agate]

Gonna go artifact hunting after this mission

[limpid quarry]

the Real life currency was called "Kupon"

[river lintel]

It's also a mod the that the Ukrain used 33 years ago (as of the 26th🎊🥳) after the USSR fell (good riddance)

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-gif-13248385

[river lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-gif-22322541

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-staring-looking-monkey-creepy-gif-8576505451678402494

[stiff agate]

4 emission in 4 hours

[limpid quarry]

speaking of crypto, i am still waiting when small household nuclear reactors will be a thing so electricity is basically free

[river lintel]

Hm?

[summer schooner]

Refer to my pfp, lol.

[warped monolith]

how will the government steal our money then

[limpid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgiasedge-shocked-turtle-gif-9985134760704974919

[stiff agate]

I accidentally caused a nuclear explosion

[stiff agate]

Taxes on it make it highly regulated

[river lintel]

Ah, well, fuck em

[stiff agate]

This guy is running in circles saying he is busy

[frigid rain]

What about magnetic electrical generator? magnet spins thing around forever inside a normal electric generator

[stiff agate]

This would never work buddy

[limpid quarry]

u cant control the output voltage at all so not reliable

[summer schooner]

A perpetual motion machine essentially?

[river lintel]

In India they have made it so you can't make money on crypto at all and get taxed to hell. Who'd have thought a country with energy struggles would do that to something that needlessly wastes so much power

[summer schooner]

If you're moving the magnet and need to move it to generate power, but you need to increase the magnets speed to increase the generation...it's an ouroborus basically.

[river lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-science-thermodynamics-gif-3583714320992757409

[frigid rain]

I had this gif but can't find it now but guy had a fidget spinner with metal bits on the ends and he lined up two magnets one on either side with opposite poles and the spinner kept going real fast

[summer schooner]

We are far closer to solar panels on all homes than miniature nuclear reactors.

[stiff agate]

Hehehe energy cannot be created nor destroyed

[summer schooner]

Yeah, but you can't use that to generate meaningful electricity.

[river lintel]

The issue is generators require resistance that will eventually supercede the amount of magnetic force exterted

[summer schooner]

What's happening with the fidget spinner, is the metal is magnetic to some extent, and is just following the flow of the "magnetosphere" created by the two magnets on opposite ends.

[limpid quarry]

we would have been closer if the old German govt didnt fuck up the entire solar panel market in germany which lost 10s of thousand of jobs and made germany the at the time market leader of solar panel production a joke

[river lintel]

I have solar panels! They are huge and take up a third of my backyard

[summer schooner]

Yep. It's not efficient to give every house their own self-sufficient panels. It's more of a thing to assist with generation and overtaxing the electric system.

[river lintel]

Didn't they also fuck over their nuclear production and now use coal?

[summer schooner]

I mean, suburbia is a hellscape imo. It's inefficient, damages the environment and ecosystem, separates people, and nurtures a more isolated lifestyle.

You got people more worried about how their damn grass looks, than if their neighbor is dead in their house or not.

[warped monolith]

I wish I could live further apart from my neighbors

[river lintel]

My house is self sufficient even when I had two EVs charging. The thing that made me not was AC in the summer

[summer schooner]

That's cool too, not saying we all need to be in cities, I'm just saying suburbia as a sprawl is a bad thing.

Going around everywhere and cutting down entire forests to build like, 20 homes....really?

[river lintel]

People use to live MILES apart back in the day outside of cities. I could only dream

[limpid quarry]

here is the graphic of producers in Germany direclty from the govt.
Wind
Coal
Gas
Solar
Rock coal
Biomass
whatever
Waterpower
Nuclear
mineral oil

[warped monolith]

could care less if my neighbor was dead at his home or not he doesn't care if his shitty loud music bothers everyone around him

[wary orbit]

there is about 8 Billion people too many on this planet

[summer schooner]

Jesus fucking christ, here we go, "Gotta kill people to save people"

[warped monolith]

Let's get started, then. After you

[summer schooner]

Okay purple ball sack chin man, go back to your stupid corner.

[river lintel]

So says you. I'll trust scientists who currently project our population might stabilize at 10bil

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-heads-back-comes-the-part-laughing-smile-gif-17788811

[wary orbit]

our planet could probaby support double that no problem, the problem is the distribution

[frigid rain]

you who else thinks there are too many people in the world? bill gates, george soros, klaus schwab etc they are all globalist scum and out of their dam minds

[golden hazel]

That's why GSC said they aren't adding crypto to the game, it's already in the game

[river lintel]

Yeah, Europe is way too crowded

[summer schooner]

Wait wait wait wait, he said something intelligent. Let's hear him out on this one.

[river lintel]

Why do you think you don't find paper money on people. It's alllll crypto

[wary orbit]

not of people but of resources

[summer schooner]

I mean, yeah, I get paid for jobs in stalker 2 by someone tapping a PDA, lol.

[stiff agate]

How do I get the azimuth access card for chasing ghosts

[river lintel]

Also yeah, that's what I was refusing to. Coal and gas over nuclear is such a shame when France is mostly nuclear powered now

[frigid rain]

ads crypto to the game as a currency but fails to mention who controls the crypto network and who maintains it

[summer schooner]

||Down some stairs outside the warehouse||

[summer schooner]

Gotta get that fucking dead dino money bro.

[limpid quarry]

well the nuclear stuff isnt caused by the current govt tho its also a relic of the 16 years CDU party destroying basically alot of shit

[stiff agate]

There’s nothing there

[rigid sleet]

Well

With current rate of consumption of resources it's unsustainable, but that's just considering our current technology level.

It's a similar sort of 'problem' that Thomas Malthus predicted with Maltuhusianism, where food production was linear but population growth was exponential.

That predicted issue was sidestepped by the Herman-Bosch process being invented.

I think we'll figure this out, guys. Life is never easy but humans are pretty badass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism

[river lintel]

And in the end, I don't have an answer for that.

[summer schooner]

Then it's borked. The keycard is down there.

[frigid rain]

gas does not come from fossils it comes from the earth and there is more in the ground than we can ever extract

if gas came from fossils we would have ran out by now

[summer schooner]

The issue isn't resources, he had it right, it's distribution.

[stiff agate]

Like the little erm next to the distress call right

[steady swan]

thats a joke right?

[frigid rain]

there are only so many dead dinos

[summer schooner]

||The keycard is on a dead Ward soldier beside the ladder back up||

[limpid quarry]

the issue isnt that we dont have enough gas, the issue is that the world will literally kill us if we continue burning gas like crazy people

[steady swan]

i mean, both are issues

[summer schooner]

We only burn gas because oil executives.

[stiff agate]

Send me the location on the map I think I at wrong area

[frigid rain]

you know that some farms have carbon exhaust thing to make the plants grow faster right?

[summer schooner]

Gas and coal are wildly inefficient producers of energy.

[river lintel]

Still sad to see. Especially when people are so scared of fission despite the fact the 2 major nuclear disasters were a mismanaged Soviet project and a plant that was hit by a record high earthquake and tsunami (and i think there was embezzlement of some kind eitg Fukushima iirc )

[frigid rain]

the carbon that some want to eliminate is ALL OF US not whatever lame news media says

[wary orbit]

Without oil we wouldn't have Vaseline. And who would wanna live in a world without Vaseline

[summer schooner]

Same reason people who make advancements, much like the dude with the hydrogen car a few years ago, they get shot.

[steady swan]

are you trying to compare that to burning fossil fuels? the farming industry is pretty fucked but thats not a valid excuse to just keep burning them as our primary fuel source

[acoustic dagger]

Without oil you wouldn’t have a lot of things

[river lintel]

People who use beeswax products insidead

[rigid sleet]

Yeah, but excessive carbon in the atmosphere as a whole is already acidifying the ocean and heating the planet. Already a lot of the major ocean currents are beginning to change or outright stop.

[summer schooner]

I'm not saying we should've never used oil, but using it for 150 years? We have better.

[limpid quarry]

they arent scared of fission they dont wanna deal with the pollution the old reactors caused aka the nuclear waste, however newer reactors would be way more efficent and cause way less waste

[warped monolith]

can't wait to start eating insect burgers

[steady swan]

oh boy here we go

[rigid sleet]

Or just like

Lab grown meats?

[frigid rain]

Oh boy there you go

[warped monolith]

SOYLENT GREEN

[wary orbit]

i like ethnic foods

[humble hedge]

There's no point. Let them enjoy the insect protein and carbon credits.

[rigid sleet]

I mean, if you wanna grow human meat from cultures

[river lintel]

Yeah i would lump that in eith the propaganda that nuclear waste is the most scary and evil thing ever

[limpid quarry]

Carbon isnt gonna kill u idiot, its the climate change thats coming with it thats killing us, earth doesnt give a fuck look at the past years with the natural disasters

[frigid rain]

the only thing that can fuck up the earth is a giant asteroid or the sun exploding

[rigid sleet]

What are you gonna do when it's too hot to grow food

[steady swan]

holy shit thats such a brain dead take lmao

[limpid quarry]

Earth doesnt give a fuck its not gonna get fucked we as humans will get fucked Earth is just gonna get rid of us and exist without humans lol

[rigid sleet]

Yeah, the biosphere will adapt

Civilization isn't so resilient

[frigid rain]

even nukes can't get rid of earth

[river lintel]

What is,

[steady swan]

"the only thing that can fuck up the earth is a giant asteroid or the sun exploding
"

[frigid rain]

plenty of people lived in japan just fine after the war

[limpid quarry]

How on earth would nukes destroy a literal planet so that the core explodes and disintegrates into a black hole?

[river lintel]

"The earth isn't dying and we aren't killing it. We are making it unlivable for US but the earth will remain and life will continue "

[humble hedge]

< -- Came for Stalker 2 comments
Got Climate Cult Sycophant rants instead

[frigid rain]

IKR

[golden hazel]

SKEEFA

[rigid sleet]

If the ocean currents stop, that'll kill off massive amounts of fish. Without fish to eat so many other species will die, and it'll lead to a cascade that'll end in complete crop failure and famine

[steady swan]

oh jeeze another dumbfuck who doesnt live in reality

[warped monolith]

you jumped in at the best of times

[humble hedge]

If anything, this is a perfect example of why Reddit has to be banned

[frigid rain]

marxism dressed up as climate change is a thing

[river lintel]

Well, yeah? The earth will still be here otherwise. The biosphere is a different story

[limpid quarry]

????? what the fuck does Marxism have to do with climate change? are u mental ?

[steady swan]

yea, but i dont think thats his point

[rigid sleet]

It's not a cult if it comes from the same science that made your medicine and grows your food

[warped monolith]

shouldn't it be the opposite? keep reddit up so the redditors stay there?
if reddit goes poof they'll all move here

[steady swan]

yes he is, already started crying about the lame stream media and shit, im sure they do their own research though

[wary orbit]

I've see the sea lvl rise predictions, worst case my grand grandkids will be able to live by the beach.

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-25799821

[rigid sleet]

"Their own Reasearch" meaning the slop that the oil industry backs

[wary orbit]

with moderatly warmer weather than now

[frigid rain]

we have to fight climate change!!!! quick lets throw money at the sky! Fly jets around and fart out chemicals everywhere charge lots of taxes and make lots of restrictions turning our countries into marxist hell holes!

[steady swan]

and he believes in chem trails lmao

[limpid quarry]

FLY JETS AND FART OUT CHEMICALS THATS FUCKING CRAZY BRO

[summer schooner]

You're an actual idiot. You haven't read a single book on the topic. Sit in the fucking stupid corner bro. Unless you're just being ironic and stupid on purpose to make those people look even more stupid.

[river lintel]

Reddit is a weird sesspit where if you have the "right" opinion you get to have your own subs dedicated to it. But if you have the "wrong" opinion your subs get brigaded and banned smh

[rigid sleet]

And moderately warmer weather means that people living in the equator will have to move north and south

It'll be a migrant crisis the scale of which you've never seen

[frigid rain]

have you not seen the videos and pics of dudes in cockpits of jets with gas masks on like wtf? they have to wear a mask while flying even though the gas spraying outside the plane and they are flying really fast

[limpid quarry]

he is probably an AFD voter which means he will support shooting immigrants at the border

[wary orbit]

Yeah problem is, i don't care.

[rigid sleet]

You know that's because of air pressure

[summer schooner]

Yeah dude, it's marxism because the government does stuff bro! It's all marxism! America is Marxism!!!!! Didn't you fucking know?!

[rigid sleet]

Don't you hate brown people though?

[humble hedge]

Seek help

[abstract lagoon]

Lol what the fuck is going on

[summer schooner]

Like dude, read a single book. Please.

[frigid rain]

no it is history and most people ignore it only to repeat the mistakes of it

[wary orbit]

... GFYS

[limpid quarry]

chem trails is fucking crazy tho

[rigid sleet]

Oh no

Someone's angry

[summer schooner]

Read a book. Please for the love of god read a book.

[humble hedge]

The Reddit crowd got mad after someone went against the official Climate Narrative (tm)

[rigid sleet]

Go suck alex jones's shrivelled up cock

[frigid rain]

now we know who voted for kamala in here lol

[steady swan]

like you, but youre too dense to see that, and even when the consequences come to wreck you, youll be none the wiser

[summer schooner]

No, I didn't. You fucking idiot.

[limpid quarry]

Enjoy your tariffs

[wary orbit]

and who is that supposed to be ?

[rigid sleet]

Boof colloidal silver

[river lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-gay-frogs-gif-13621889

[steady swan]

yea and we know who voted for a literal fascist, and yet somehow jokes about history repeating itself. how ironic

[summer schooner]

Hope you enjoy a collapsing economy and government 100% controlled by corporations with no way to stop it besides struggling.

[abstract lagoon]

Ugh, conservative nutjobs corrupting the chat

[wary orbit]

ok cool and this is relevant how?

[golden hazel]

🍿

[summer schooner]

Hope you enjoy our president being a literal fascist that supports genocide. Who has ALREADY called for starting THREE wars.

[humble hedge]

Society and Discord, apparently, is as polarized and unstable as ever before. And I'm loving every second of it.

[limpid quarry]

wasnt it 4? greenland, canada, mexico and panama?

[rigid sleet]

And here's the funny thing

The climate doesn't give a shit whether or not you believe that it's changing

You can deny reality all the way to having to live off of cockroaches and graywater

At least you owned the libs though right

[summer schooner]

"Peace candidate" my fucking ass.

[frigid rain]

only the left trots out the fascist word and actually BOTH of them are bad choices... we were fucked from the start long ago

[abstract lagoon]

Can we get back to stalker, pls

[steady swan]

no no! the billionares will fix everything! they definitely wont suck the planet and the people dry for every last cent that they can!

[summer schooner]

Yeah, four, my bad, sometimes I forget all the insane shit he said.

[rigid sleet]

See the problem is that S2 touched on these themes so this sort of thing will come up

[limpid quarry]

this is much more hilarious tho ngl

[wanton arch]

[river lintel]

Kamala wasn't voted for by her party though. She was appointed to be the candidate while they tried to jail their political adversaries. I'm not a republican but that puts a bad taste in my mouth and scream Fascist to me

[rigid sleet]

I really wish the zone was real tbh

[steady swan]

Id tell you to go look up the signs of fascism, but im sure youd just ignore it

[summer schooner]

Says the dude saying gommunism controls the government, and it's the gommunists that are the only problem with the world at all, and if we just got rid of gommunism we would all be happy and in peace.

[summer schooner]

Both parties are doing the same shit basically tbh.

[steady swan]

and the republicans dont scream fasicst even harder? they shouldve had joe drop out four years ago but here we are.

[rigid sleet]

Anyone who fails to see the problem with billionaires should read up on America's gilded age and see how people had to live while the top 1% dined on gold

[steady swan]

Democrats have not called for the execution of people who went agains them holy shit

[summer schooner]

One party has a literal rapist who advocates for killing brown people because they are brown.

[humble hedge]

Let's get back to Stalker 2

[limpid quarry]

Obama 2029 pls

[rigid sleet]

Sidorovich 2028

[abstract lagoon]

You know. I guess the zone kinda is a metaphor for climate change

[summer schooner]

Not in the US, but outside the US, they don't just call for it, they do it.

[wary orbit]

Ok New (old) Topic. Pizza Hawaii + Anchovies is the best Pizza #ChangeMyMind

[river lintel]

I never hear conservatives say fascist tbh

[frigid rain]

no matter who is in charge the govt always goes down the same path, spend spend spend and then don't pay it back so we get sovereign debt crisis again and again they use war to erase debt instead of a non violent way to pay it back oh and war is good for erasing people too

[steady swan]

wdym?

[abstract lagoon]

You fascist

[summer schooner]

They don't say the word, but they scream the ideas of fascism. Wtf do you think "Kill the illegals" is? Not fascism?

[river lintel]

If that's what tickles your pickle then go for it man

[steady swan]

what, like zionists?

[summer schooner]

I mean, we bomb people in other countries. DOesn't matter where, hell, we've dropped bombs on every continent in the world.

[abstract lagoon]

Putin

[rigid sleet]

I just

Wish I was born centuries from now when we're climate engineered all of this to the point where we can vote on the weather

[humble hedge]

Every statement you make, every micro agression you make is a clear form of fascism. I can hear your boots parading all the way from over here.

[steady swan]

i am by no means saying dems are perfect, but republicans are far far worse

[summer schooner]

"Peace, Freedom, Democracy" my fucking ass. If we really stood for that, WHY are we bombing people?

[river lintel]

I mean I don't hear them call the other side that

[summer schooner]

They are both terrible. The dems literally gave billions to a genocidal terrorist government.

[steady swan]

I hear it constantly lmao, you just said it yourself

[rigid sleet]

Reagan mostly

[limpid quarry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326859548184936448/1074139002736758835/campfire_cats.gif

[wary orbit]

so your answer to your doomerism is lets get born in the future where all that shit happened and you get to live the consequences. SMRT

[steady swan]

true, but one is far worse, and at least theres a chance for positive change with the other

[summer schooner]

We've bene doing it since we were formed as a country. In 1812 we invaded Canada

[river lintel]

I mean I've never heard a right winger call a Democrat a fascist

[abstract lagoon]

Ah in the US

[river lintel]

I'm not right leaning?

[steady swan]

i mean idk what to tell you, i have

[summer schooner]

The dems won't change. They are bought and paid for. If they actually gave a shit or ever would, they would've put in Bernie instead of Hillary all the way back then.

[rigid sleet]

I think we'll figure this out

I just wish that I didn't have to live through it

I wanna fuck aliens and get bitchin' combat implants

[humble hedge]

Hotshot, do you disavow violence?

[summer schooner]

I'm sorry, I don't communicate with brainlets. trying to just stir a reaction.

[wary orbit]

i am sure drugs are the answer to those wishes. At least thats obtainable

[steady swan]

true, but would you rather have trump over them? my only hope is that republicans fuck up so bad we have some real changes for the better

[river lintel]

I also don't use social media much. I listen to CNN, MSNBC, Fox (i like to heard multiple sides) and I work all day. I don't see this stuff youre talking about

[rigid sleet]

Humanity eats hardship and shits progress

We steal the fire of prometheus and use it to heat our houses

I mean, for fucks sake, that's our birthright as a species

Even now we're turning viral machines into medicine

We are turning the very essence of sickness against itself like some kind of fucking alchemy

Science is fucking awesome

[limpid quarry]

how did all of this even start? because we were talking abotu SOlar panels ?

[summer schooner]

I'd rather we not spend billions to bomb people.

[humble hedge]

Why are you being a bigot? Do you disavow bullying disabled people?

[summer schooner]

This is your problem right there. You listen to mainstream media that all spouts the same shit.

[river lintel]

Our only birthright is death

[steady swan]

i mean me too, but repubs arent gonna stop that. trump already said he fully backs israel

[summer schooner]

Yeah. I'm not saying vote.

[rigid sleet]

Only so far as we submit to the evils of nature

We're better than nature

[limpid quarry]

also we invented porn sites and that goes hard as fuck ngl

[summer schooner]

You can't vote yourself out of fascism once you're this deep.

[river lintel]

I listen to smaller independent journalists too but I dont see hearing what others have to say as a problem

[summer schooner]

We just haven't fully applied the force of the state against the populace in the country.

[abstract lagoon]

Give me immortality or give me death!

Wait...

[humble hedge]

Why are you calling for violence?

[rigid sleet]

That isn't even the pinnacle of gooner technology

We have full on teledildonics now

I can get a bluetooth enabled fleshlight that's paired over the internet to a dildo, and I can fuck that flashlight to have the dildo mirror those movements across the globe

[summer schooner]

They are bought and paid for. Put them side by side, they almost word for word say the exact same narrative on similar stories. I only use independent journalists that don't get corporate funding.

[steady swan]

thats why i hope repubs fuck up so bad that people realize how fucked and actually band together to do something, but i doubt it

[limpid quarry]

thats fucking crazy bro holy shit

[wary orbit]

So prolonging the human existence on this planet succeeds, whats our next play? I don't think you have a solution to the problem that is "us never leaving this solarsystem"

[summer schooner]

Learn to read and understand words, brainlet.

[frigid rain]

all republics fail and people keep making republics over and over for thousands of years like the next time will be different

[humble hedge]

Please stop with these micro agressions against us.

[rigid sleet]

I can fuck your mom from a different continent

[limpid quarry]

can we talk about Europe politics for once maybe?

[summer schooner]

Just you, tbh. Because you're just trying to troll and stir more shit up.

[abstract lagoon]

Teledildonics

[frigid rain]

the only thing that has been different is nukes

[steady swan]

you know whos calling for violence? republicans. use your brain

[rigid sleet]

Nukes are a good thing tbh

They've stopped WW1/2 scale conflicts for good because it puts our leaders in the exact same boat as the rest of us

[river lintel]

We also believed a man wouldn't fly for another millennium and the Wright brothers made their first plane like a year later. Science and tech will probably discover a way out

[summer schooner]

He lacks one. The reason I've been calling him a brainlet. Either that or he chooses to not use it.

[rigid sleet]

If I could I'd bring oppenheimer back for a day or two and let him see how his invention has saved millions and millions of lives

[humble hedge]

I feel threatened by your agressive tone. Please make sure to read the rules of this chat. You are being very bigoted.

[abstract lagoon]

Idk if I'd call them a good thing. They have had beneficial side effects

[summer schooner]

All you've done is sit in here and insult people and try to get people upset.

I'm simply returning a small amount of your energy good sir.

[abstract lagoon]

He's a troll stop feeding him

[wary orbit]

yes except flying is within the possibility of the laws that govern the universe. us traveling at speeds that are viable to reach other stars or even find another livable planet is not.

[frigid rain]

Not now, zircon changes the whole game and if they russia are forced to use it soon US and euros can't counter it. They have plans to survive we don't

[warped monolith]

[humble hedge]

All I want is for people to get along and sing cumbaya. You are making that very difficult being this aggressive.

[summer schooner]

Yeah, Imma go make some lunch.

[rigid sleet]

I strongly believe that technology is always a net positive force

I brought the herman-bosch process up earlier, it's a chemical process that can be used to make mustard gas

That of course horrifically killed thousands, but it also enabled the manufacturing of synthetic fertilizers that have fed BILLIONS

[limpid quarry]

we cant travel at the speed of light because if we would be able to we wouldnt exist, we would need to disintegrate into particles and get put back together to travel at the speed of light ngl

[humble hedge]

Low blood sugar is a very common cause of anger issues.

[warped monolith]

who eats sugar for lunch

[river lintel]

It swings both ways. I see people currently chanting to kill all men because trump won so 🤷 i don't give a shit anymore. I've gone from a brighteyed progressive to an apathetic centrist over the years. At this point I think the only real change will happen at the local level. And people don't seem to want to care about their local elections enough to make a difference. They only vote for the president like it's a show or something

[limpid quarry]

u eat veggies?

[summer schooner]

I feel threatened! I’m a diabetic and he just basically told me to eat sugar, telling me to kill myself.

[humble hedge]

Ah, that's better. Things are a little more quiet now. I feel safe again. Sigh of relief

[rigid sleet]

'If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him'

[abstract lagoon]

I would disagree with the language of "always," but I see your point

[river lintel]

With our current understanding, yes. But I'll hold out hope that we will make a discovery to bypass that

[wary orbit]

ah so your solution is magic

[warped monolith]

ew no

[rigid sleet]

A few centuries ago the idea that you could light a room up by clapping your hands was magic

It's a matter of understanding

[limpid quarry]

i mean thats very bold of you but thats not science science proved its not possible and wont be, because we cant change the fundamentals of our universe

[abstract lagoon]

Also, science going too far is literally the themes of stalker

[rigid sleet]

The zone is still a net benefit to humanity

[warped monolith]

"any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"

[abstract lagoon]

Disagree but sure

[wary orbit]

blah, the laws of physics will not bend no matter how advanced we get

[river lintel]

I suppose I'm not phrasing things correctly. I HOPE we discover something so monumental it makes that be possible. But as it stands my pessimistic side thinks the Fermi paradox might be right

[abstract lagoon]

But also, tell me you didn't do the ward ending without telling me you didn't do the ward ending

[warped monolith]

We managed to make flying machines, we managed to escape the gravitational pull of the earth.
Never say never.

[rigid sleet]

Nah, I did the Skif ending

[abstract lagoon]

Yeah the ward ending is scientists being fuckheads

[river lintel]

And that species are well and truly fucked after a certain point. Like a star. Here for a bit and gone

[steady swan]

yea but you dont have democratic officials calling for violence like you do with republicans. Theyve said they want to use the national gaurd to go into states and forcibly deport people, put people like liz cheney on trial and other miliatry officers on trial which could lead to death by a firing squad, which they have also said they want to bring back. Youll always see people on either side in an unofficial capacity calling for violence, but its a loud minority of the left thats calling for it vs a lot of right wing groups+elected officials

[wary orbit]

i already said that but for you i will repeat myself. Those were within the possibility of the laws of physics. Travel to other stars is possible too, just not viable anytime ever

[warped monolith]

Nothing says our perception of said laws might not change with new discoveries

[wary orbit]

our perception is not the issue. The issue is what is possible and that is not governed by perspective

[river lintel]

I mean, people don't have the right ti live here if they weren't born here or went through the process. My grandparents worked very hard to become citizens. Illegal immigration was a very sore topic for Hispanics recently saying we need to do SOMWTHING. Though surely the national guard shouldn't have to be the solution

[steady swan]

yea, having a states nat gaurd essentially invade a city will only end poorly

[warped monolith]

and what we think is possible can change

we may not have the full grasp on what can and can't be done

[wary orbit]

yes true, people thought the world was flat and then they found out it was a sphere. And since your statement is correct we now have people that think its flat again.

[river lintel]

I mean. There's a non zero chance the deepest de p ths of the ocean are inhabited by a society of intelligent squid people. Maybe we should worry about the oceans before we turn to the stars?

[molten osprey]

and were getting to crysis again

[warped monolith]

it's always either 8 or 80 with you, isn't it

[warped monolith]

My name is Prophet

[wary orbit]

yeah sorry to tell you this but the universe operates in absolutes

[molten osprey]

Being a good soldier comes down to one last thing

[river lintel]

I kinda agree with what MBO means tho. The spirit of his argument is we.moght discover something that is fundamentally earth shattering to our science in a way that makes older stuff obsolete. A good scientist is always challenging the norm and asking questions

[keen arch]

bruh whoever added the rat swarm enemy into stalker2.....
has to be the worst enemy in the game

[warped monolith]

and what we know about it isn't absolute.

[steady swan]

just underhand a nade at them, ez

[keen arch]

except if i don't have one
and I'm in an exoskeleton so i can't sprint away

[warped monolith]

filtered

[steady swan]

how do you have an exo and no nades

[river lintel]

Lol no it doesn't. There's a lot of uncertainty in our scientific knowledge. We still debate how the universe BEGAN. With the big bang constantly being questioned.

[wary orbit]

yes sure lets hope that the field of physics that hasn't had fundamental changes to its proven laws, finds something that disproves all proven laws

[river lintel]

We don't even have a solid idea how the moon and earth was made

[keen arch]

every time i heard something about monolith I threw a grenade in their general direction

[steady swan]

get more nades

[keen arch]

solid idea

[summer schooner]

you telling me you don't have 100 nades in your stash?

[river lintel]

Youre being pedantic. I don't mean ALL laws. I'm saying something that recontextualizes what we know

[molten osprey]

Big boom

[keen arch]

well i use them.. pretty liberally

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/shallow-pedandic-pedantry-pedant-family-guy-gif-26075926

[steady swan]

just try to keep like 3 on you at least

[wary orbit]

the fundamental laws cannot change. And those are the ones that make it unviable for us to ever leave the Solarsystem.

[summer schooner]

That's how Hermann always argues. He's like a brick wall, ain't gonna get nothing new to him.

[river lintel]

Well it's unscientific and ignorant

[warped monolith]

stereotypes exist for a reason

[summer schooner]

Why do you think I kept laughing at him earlier? How about we do that again?

https://tenor.com/view/throw-heads-back-comes-the-part-laughing-smile-gif-17788811

[wary orbit]

aight Einstein. Go develop a Way for us to circumvent fundamental physics and show me how wrong i am

[river lintel]

EINSTEIN DISCOVERED SOMETHING THAT RECONTEXTUALIZED OUR KNOWLEDGE OF SCIENCE

[summer schooner]

Wow, more roundabouts and "goal posts" just to get you to not be pedantic. So knowledgeable and intelligent, guys, his sheer aura from his intellect has me shaking in my goddamn boots.

[wary orbit]

thats why i mentioned him

[molten osprey]

after everyone thought that wouldnt happen, like you

what gives you the certainty that it wont happen again

[summer schooner]

You said right here fundamental laws can't change. Einstein changed them.

[wary orbit]

no he didn't he explained previously unexplained parts of it

[summer schooner]

You're misunderstanding, Crow is the one saying things can change and be discovered, Hermann is the ape saying nothing will change, it'll all stay the same.

[river lintel]

Thats what I'm saying!

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[molten osprey]

im adressing it at hermann, i wanted to add

i hope crow got that

[river lintel]

Gotcha

[summer schooner]

Oh, my bad then mate. You replied to Crow so I thought you had misunderstood.

[river lintel]

We are LITERALLY saying we hope someone else comes along ajd does EXAXTLY that

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/valia-gif-25950437

This is literally hermann at his PC.

[wary orbit]

Someone like Einstein formulating theories about laws of physics does not create new laws of physics. those laws were in effect form the beginning of time and will continue to do so

[river lintel]

BUT AGAIN BECAUSE THATS HOW SCIENCE WORKS

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-heads-back-comes-the-part-laughing-smile-gif-17788811

See the ape in his natural habitat. Using strawman arguments and fallacies to seem right, when he's really just saying the EXACT same shit we are, then telling us we are incorrect.

[royal mural]

hes still right you know

[summer schooner]

Yeah, we are saying the same thing, he's just being pedantic about word choice and making an argument based off word choice, which is what you do when you discuss in bad faith with No intention for actual learning

[wary orbit]

Oh hulk i appreciate you wanting to pitch in but don't get bogged down in Stupid town

[river lintel]

Yeah you know what else was? The stars! And up until a few centuries ago people thought they had it ALLLL figured out on how the stars told the future and that everything was made of elements and we had humors in our bodies. And things got discovered that reshaped our knowledge

[royal mural]

oh ok

[summer schooner]

Thats why we laugh at you Hermann, because you're an ass who's too busy letting his last few braincells fight for the throne.

[river lintel]

I'm saying. What if WHAT IF we are wrong and overlooking something

[royal mural]

before i go to the deeps of my cave again i just want to add the devil is in the details

[molten osprey]

The last two are fighting for the third place

[summer schooner]

You literally don't add anything helpful. Like ever. All you do is argue and say, "I right! I right! I right right!!"

[wary orbit]

i'm not debating us reshaping our knowledge. but we already have the knowledge to what governs the laws of physics in regard to interstellar travel. there is nothing that is going to be discovered that changes the laws that are in effect. There is a difference between what is and what we know or have known there is in the past. so your argument is lacking.

[stiff agate]

Bro I can’t complete dead frequency alpha team where are they

[steady swan]

Did you look above the crevace?

[summer schooner]

Like, crow and I were saying sciences change, laws change, things get discovered and we learn. Hermann is like, "Well Achtually, they aren't discovered, it's just 'learning new information'. The laws have achtually always been there." Yeah Hermann, we fucking know. We said the same damn thing you said, but you were like, "But your choice of words makes you wrong and me right"

Isaac newton didn't "invent gravity". Not a soul here is arguing that.

[wary orbit]

then just use the right words

[stiff agate]

I forgot to kill him

[steady swan]

you dont have to kill them you know

[summer schooner]

Or...how about this...we understand language is large and has more than 100 words, yeah? We read a dictionary aand see it has more words. And some words...get this...HAVE THE SAME MEANING! wow! It's called a Synonym. Wow! You can learn about those in...get ready...I know books and big words are scary...but you can learn about synonyms and...even...ANTONYMS! In a Thesaurus.

[wary orbit]

yes thats why we call the same thing different things in science all the time. Oh wait we don't

[stiff agate]

They shot at me first

[summer schooner]

Looks like someone doesn't understand the words I put down.

[warped monolith]

I've been saying that since de benigning

[steady swan]

i said you dont have to, you can though, its optional

[summer schooner]

It's called a The-saur-us. You read it with your eyes, then you use your brain to understand the words on the screen. Shocking, I know.

[royal mural]

@warped monolith here for you 🍿 🫲

[stiff agate]

Why wouldn’t you kill them

[steady swan]

because you cant find them?

[mint holly]

I'm very engaged in this topic now

[royal mural]

🍿

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cheeseburger-burger-cheezburger-om-gom-gif-4210864688339297352

[short wren]

what does the green underline under artifacts for equipping mean

[summer schooner]

iirc it's a protected artifact slot. Don't quote me though.

[limpid quarry]

its a lead container meaning the artifact wont give u radiation :)

[steady swan]

lead container, they wont irrdatiate you

[royal mural]

[summer schooner]

WHO DELETED THE COCK?! That's the content we need in here.

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[summer schooner]

There we fucking go. Slap that big boy on the table.

[random sluice]

Its Grok's cock

[summer schooner]

No wonder it's so fucking huge then. We all know Grok's cock is the biggest cock in this room.

[royal mural]

isnt it a wee bit small to be groks?

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[wary orbit]

btw what will we do if no planet in our galaxy is viable for us? lets just leave out the fact that every star we see in the sky is a snapshot from possibly billions of years ago and might not even be present anymore when we reach its supposed location which would also have changed by the time we get there.

[summer schooner]

I was waiting for this shit. I hear it in hog rider's voice everytime 🤣

[random sluice]

true

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/ratio-gif-24800079

[warped monolith]

Why don't you tell us, Mr. "I'm the only smart man in Stupid Town"

[wary orbit]

i did. not gonna happen

[river lintel]

Then we'll all die. The end. We had a good run

[warped monolith]

cheapest cop-out in internet history

[summer schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-eating-kimichkis-monkey-kimi-konosadmaru-monkey-gif-11354965857791711903