#🤖🐛🦑helldivers

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blazing abyss
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reinstalled after 5 months and crashed 3 times in 40 minutes

sacred tapir
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W

shy schooner
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rancid ibex
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narrow trout
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plain bough
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empty zealot
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dire igloo
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graceful compass
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empty zealot
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38 minutes 😭

sacred tapir
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you dickhead you broke the chain

light nymph
slim coral
empty zealot
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Oh no

sharp gorge
slim coral
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THIS IS SO PEAK

empty zealot
celest elm
cunning escarp
potent leaf
light nymph
fleet gazelle
unborn ibex
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"If you can dodge a rocket devestator you can dodge a ball!"

bleak patrol
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This whole combo dealt roughly 157 damage

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For comparison, wearing heavy explosive resistant armor would reduce that damage to 94

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Which would leave you with 31 health

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Which in theory would allow you to eat another rocket if it didn't hit you directly

unborn ibex
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Hey at least it isn't launch where one of those rockets would dust you.

bleak patrol
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Yes

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Launch was hell

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A fun hell but still hell

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Wait, I actually miscalculated
It would deal 94 damage against just heavy armor, not explosive resistant heavy armor

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68 damage

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You can almost eat another combo like that

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Lemme check of much damage it would deal if we combined 200 armor rating with explosive resistant, which is possible due to a bug which allows you to wear a second armor set instead of a helmet

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59, now you can eat two combos

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And you still have 7 health to spare to maybe survive the landing

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53 with vitality booster

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Why am I even doing this

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I mean, these numbers should be accurate, but it's mostly pointless knowledge

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What isn't pointless knowledge is the fact that helldivers take extra damage from gas

bleak patrol
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Ok, specifically
Helldivers take 30% extra damage from gas, 50% less damage from explosions and 50% less damage from fire, by default, no armor passives

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And it appears that it was that way since launch

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Oh, wait, scratch that

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On release we had no explosion resistance doge1doge2

sacred tapir
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That 50% fire res does literally nothing it seems

bleak patrol
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It's just that fire deals a lot of DoT damage

sacred tapir
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Still die if a single ember gets on your shoe

bleak patrol
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We only have 125 health

sacred tapir
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The flame res armor needs to do more

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Imo

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Like, 99% resistance or something

bleak patrol
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Flame res already does well enough in my experience

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It turns being set ablaze by a scorcher from "oh god oh fuck" to "I will kill you first and then I will put the flames out and still be well enough to not heal yet"

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Fire does 150dmg/s

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With 50% fire resistance we take 75dmg/s

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With 125 health we die in 1.6s

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The math is mathing, it does check out

sacred tapir
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it should take like 4 seconds to die to fire imo

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i mean, people caught in house fires sometimes survive despite being in there for upwards of 2-3 minutes before escaping

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and we are also wearing armor that isnt flammable, but i dont think that helps

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titanium would get hot and burn you

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so idk

bleak patrol
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It takes 6-7 seconds with fire resistant armor

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Also bear in mind that we put out the flames by just initiating a jump

plain bough
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12hrs before we get to see fire disappointment

empty zealot
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Don't have enough credits, have like 10 warbonds to buy ohno

sacred tapir
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this game has been a disappointment for a while imo

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its fun

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but its disappointing

empty zealot
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I've skipped vox fighting

sacred tapir
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the devs are the biggest source of disappointment ive seen in ages

median trellis
plain bough
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We shall see if flamethrower is worth a damn

rancid ibex
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Nothing to be excited about this update. Waiting for dataminers to find any undocumented/shadow changes

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Never expect anything good from Retardhead sleep

twin nebula
dire igloo
# median trellis

Lights enemy on fire with flamethrower
Enemy starts swinging and hitting me
Was there really any change peeposmile

loud bison
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so the regular GL is back to medium armor pen while the belt fed stays heavy?

rancid ibex
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Is it me or is the audio lowered lmao

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I have all my audio settings at max

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And the music is like, 50% of its loudness

eager cliff
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do u have mods?

plain bough
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Super Store gear

dire igloo
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YESSSSSSSSS

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THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR

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THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUUUUUUT

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MORE SHOTGUNNNNNNS

plain bough
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Oh they changed the warbond conditions, only need to spend 1 medal to unlock all the trees

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Got me the heavy flamer and jet pistol

dire igloo
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wha

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everything costs 1 medal?

plain bough
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flamer is 110

dire igloo
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so i have to spend 1 medal on the previous tier to be able to unlock the next one with the weapon I want?

dire igloo
plain bough
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stroke that flamer

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Alright gonna test out what I have first

rancid ibex
plain bough
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ok first round, SMG and flamer is pretty good

plain bough
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You get only 2 giga-grenades and they explode on impact

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they don't toss very far too

twin nebula
plain bough
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Large enough for a group

bleak patrol
# median trellis

"Some enemies now think it's very inconvenient to be flamed in the face" kekl

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Which page is the shovel

plain bough
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first one

bleak patrol
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We keep winning

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Can't stop winning

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So if I read it correctly

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GL-21 no longer has heavy penetration, but GL-28 still does

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As the only change they mentioned for 28 is that it has more ammo now

frosty moss
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looks like it

plain bough
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belt fed has 120 yeah, also maxigun actually has 1K ammo now

bleak patrol
# plain bough

Holy shit I no longer have to assume using the double armor bug for both armor passives in my damage calculations

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I'm pretty satisfied with this update hmm

plain bough
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flamer has been useful so far

bleak patrol
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Holy shit a roadmap

plain bough
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convenient how everyone was saying AH wasn't doing anything now we get a roadmap for the next few months lol

rotund niche
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why warbond blank

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and super store

plain bough
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slim build?

rotund niche
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yeah

plain bough
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change it to default build

rotund niche
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i forgot i was using that tbh

plain bough
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its now included

fleet gazelle
plain bough
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excited russian player after we found a 100sc stack

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also sweeper fires like a semi-auto even tho its a pump shotgun

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70 shells and reloads fast by default

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found another 100sc bundle, he's losing his mind

fleet gazelle
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Any pump-action shotgun becomes semi-automatic when you fire it, through constant reloading of rounds and subsequent firing.

dire igloo
rancid ibex
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I realized by now the fire changes only work when you're blowing fire at an enemy, NOT when they're on fire

plain bough
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so far its agreeable with me

rancid ibex
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For me, there's still lots of room for improvement

light nymph
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LAMAO

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THEY LITERALLY COPY PASTED THE GAS EFFECT ON IT

fleet gazelle
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Which was very much expected.

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Now they will buff gas weapons and players will again whine about flamethrowers.

light nymph
plain bough
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just make the sterilizer make gas clouds that explode

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Oh the sweeper have choke options

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One True Flag is disabled temporarily

dire igloo
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clouds explode, and in the games code they magically stay and duplicate until your game crashes absolutecinema

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cause engine sucks

empty zealot
empty zealot
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At least there will be one month with no warbonds, lol

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I've not played in a while, and farming for those that I want will be a long process...

light nymph
plain bough
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furry in IT or art

light nymph
plain bough
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Welp about to finish soon, then I'll do the new darktide content

empty zealot
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How much is the shotgun?

eager cliff
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Ah i see its that time where i skip the Helldivers update cause they nerfed everything ?

light nymph
empty zealot
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yeah, it's 400

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The fact that the stuff is only for 2 days is death

light nymph
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FOMO baby

rancid ibex
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Gun so dogshit, it had to be disabled

rancid ibex
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Was about to go into another 40 minutes of dying to retardhead shenanigans when I luckily joined a democratic distributor of democratic fundsKekSkew

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Oh they have a roadmap now

bleak patrol
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Gaming

bleak patrol
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I forgor to unslim my slim build

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Holy shit the game is even smaller now

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I kinda like it, but why is it like this KekSkew

sacred tapir
bleak patrol
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So the flamethrower on the SMG just fires instantly

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There's no delay

bleak patrol
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I understand that it said that voteless and flesh mobs are even more common on the Mindless Masses but holy shit it's fucking insane

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Also is it just me or are Watcher spawn rates also increased

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Oh wow they activated the DSS Eagles on the Illuminate planet
You know, the guys that try to hug you, a lot

Guess I'm not doing the MO today bedge

loud bison
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yeah, the audio is messed up

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can't even enthusiastic mirth

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I actually kind of enjoyed my last mission
nice when I don't have to have dedicated anti-tank (recoilless)

sacred tapir
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tbh

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its just a choice

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of if you want to delete everything, or have a challenge

eager cliff
bleak patrol
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Implying that Watchers don't already do that

slim coral
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So

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Is the new warbond good

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Or garbango

bleak patrol
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Seems fine

rotund niche
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i like it, the smg is decent, i like the medium armor passives

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the shotgun in the super store is pretty good

loud bison
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I like the grenade

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big explosion on contact

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smg is niceu

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Sapper armor is what I've been wanting

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Explosion Resistance and +grenades

plain bough
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So far the warbond is good

loud bison
bleak patrol
slim coral
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Pls tell me

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The shotgun can slam fire

plain bough
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on the basis of shotguns alone, its place is right behind the Double Freedom

loud bison
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hmmm, with the changes to fire causing enemies to panic, is there any point to gas? outside of the oribtal gas strike?

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I suppose it can affect hulks compared to flame

bleak patrol
unborn ibex
plain bough
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tried it myself, its absurdly fast

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another update, another broken thing lol

bleak patrol
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I do kinda like them

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Wish that would become a permanent unlockable "camo"

plain bough
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we need more camos and attachments

empty zealot
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Double freedom have a lot of stagger, and so does halt, cookout and the halo shotgun

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I've seen people calling it non-bug shotgun cause of that

bleak patrol
potent leaf
plain bough
narrow trout
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bendy straws

potent leaf
loud bison
narrow trout
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saaaaaam you posted in the wrong channell!!!

potent leaf
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You can put helldiver stuff into it to

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:)

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sorry for sharing!

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Call a moderator on me

narrow trout
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@aldo kill this thing

loud bison
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@/iedy someone isn't posting goonslop in here

vague marsh
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also

narrow trout
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where am i

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wheres reznov

cunning escarp
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narrow trout
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this is jus the navy seals copypasta but more tame

tropic birch
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Le game is fucked

sacred tapir
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W

rancid ibex
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W

rancid ibex
eager cliff
loud bison
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don't know who did this warbond and content update, but AH should keep hiring them

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couple of new extraction areas

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need to fix the Eagle strats being forcibly re-armed when not called for while the DSS Eagles are active though

restive condor
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I dont do shit with long multiple arms

empty zealot
bleak patrol
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I like my shovel

loud bison
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smol patch, looks like the breakers were reverted to default colors

rancid ibex
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They removed the moderators of oppression skin? Lame

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Bah someone will make a mod for it

rancid ibex
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Late to the party but I finally got my own set of the Inspector armor clueless

empty zealot
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I've so many warbonds to get, maybe one day I'll get that drip KEK

graceful compass
rancid ibex
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Some goofy ass bug introduced from the latest update

queen mural
rancid ibex
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Nope

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It' fixed

queen mural
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fuhh

rancid ibex
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Under all that organic armor, is the true horror of the squids. This one, an eviscerated sample

eager cliff
empty zealot
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Iedy is getting out of hand

eager cliff
plain bough
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Man without seaf or civilians running around the cities, the leviathans are circumsizing my dick off with their lasers

plain bough
bleak patrol
sacred tapir
tired pilot
plain bough
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also says the content releases on friday but I think we're gonna be done with the previous planet before the date

bleak patrol
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Mindless Masses is what I dislike about the squids and then amplified 1000 times

plain bough
bleak patrol
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Yes please

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I fucking swear that Mindless Masses has increased spawnrates of Harvesters and Watchers

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I have seen more Harvesters in 10 minutes than I've seen in the entire period between Cyberstan and this update

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And there's always at least 4 watchers waiting to call in even more

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Which I can't deal with because I'm running away from at least 1000 voteless and 69 fleshmobs

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Like I already thought that normal squids spawned too many voteless patrols around and they also magically knew where I am most of the time, now it's much worse

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I need the heavy flamer NeroPensive

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Listen, when I throw an impact incendiary and the kill count reaches 60 in one second then it's kinda too much

slim coral
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Iedy is posting something

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Is it gooning?!?!?!

light nymph
loud bison
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still waiting to see the stats on the helldivers wiki to see what is going on but man is it good

sacred tapir
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we know arrowhead

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just say opposite

loud bison
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like surely 1 fire damage standard wouldn't make that much of a difference, right?

sacred tapir
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idk man

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maybe its that tab on the left, damage vs spray?

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the type of attack?

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man idk, whatever they did, they need to keep it up because its awesome

sacred tapir
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yeah pyr is right this whole voteless spawning in your asscrack thing is unplayable

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im not playing illuminate until its all overseers and shit

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because god voteless are just aids as fuck

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oh yeah just spawn like 13853 of them, the players will love it :D

loud bison
loud bison
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idk man, I just finished a super helldive operation

fleet gazelle
loud bison
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heavy flamer, unironically, able to deal with every enemy in the Horde

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Using the desert stormer armor set to take arc damage from harvesters just so I can torch them

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There does, however, seem to be lag spikes and I've been taking unexplainable damage and deaths

fleet gazelle
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For more atmosphere, it was necessary to use medium armor from the Helghast and take a gas mask with a white metal shield, for more atmosphere of wielding a large flamethrower.

sacred tapir
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and for medium armor

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heavy armor (which squids have literally none of) will be able to shrug it off

steady zinc
rancid ibex
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With that much inputs it's a fuckin, 100,000kg bomb

rancid ibex
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My Deep Rock Galactic ass keeps pressing tab expecting I can bring up a list of lobbies to join in when I forgot its Helldivers 2 and Retardhead couldn't implement something so simple to add

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Maybe they should outsource all the codingwork to a furry coding hub because those fucks can't code for shit

fleet gazelle
bleak patrol
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From the moment I landed to the moment I extracted I was constantly in combat without me even trying to fight everything because one fucker saw me and more just kept coming

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I was spotted once and it spiraled into 42 minutes of constant running around

plain bough
bleak patrol
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I sure hope the spawn rates won't be ass but it's the squids we're talking about and they were always ass peepopray

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If someone ever thought I have no problems with the game - the squid front has all of my problems and it's the reason why I didn't play them that much

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And lack of enemy variety wasn't one of those problems

plain bough
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There's gotta be something different with the cremator, it takes out heavies way too quickly

bleak patrol
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My specific issues are how the voteless patrols will spawn either directly behind you or right around the corner and be instantly aggro if you're already fighting something, and they also have almost no specific audio cue of their existence or the fact that they are aware of your existence, which both bugs and bots do have. Watchers also will appear directly behind you out of nowhere even though they do have specific sounds to warn you about their existence but they go fully silent when investigating for some reason so they will just fly to sniff your ass and call in reinforcements without you noticing until it's too late. Another one is just my personal skill issue cause I really don't like the harvesters but they are easy to avoid cause they are big and loud and their accuracy sucks most of the time.
Also fleahmobs run through walls but that's the smallest issue for me cause they are not even a real threat

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Like the bots sing their silly marching song when they patrol so it's easy to know they are there and in which direction specifically, they also have a distinct audio cue when they spot you and every heavy unit also makes specific sounds so you can identify them without even seeing them.
Bugs also make distinct sounds on patrol and when they spot you and when they turn aggro, you can detect patrols by pure sound without checking the map and heavy units also are easy to detect by sound only
Squid patrols don't really make special sounds and you will only know they are there if there's a harvester with them or if they have overseers who have already spotted you cause they do have a distinct audio for that

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Voteless themselves don't make different sounds when they are on patrol, standby or when they spotted you and they tend to be very quiet and blend in with the ambient sounds

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Pretty sure they don't even make footstep sounds

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I'm also pretty sure that on bugs specifically there's an audio cue in the music itself when there's a patrol walking by?
Like, there's this specific sound that plays when an unalerted patrol is near your position and I think that's pretty cool hmm

eager cliff
rancid ibex
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In all my recent sessions, I never got swarmed by voteless in D10

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The voteless horde is p fun. The autocannon works wonders for once

unborn ibex
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I kinda wish that Arrowhead had a public testing branch. So many issues with the game could be solved with a "proving grounds" styled test enviroment.

eager cliff
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To be fair they could

Yet i feel they know they would have to work extra and this means they cant push the update

I feel they are on a tight schedule and they cant afford delays anyway

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Game does need testing this is nt the 1st time its buggy , the cave update was fucking rolled back for a month i think

sacred tapir
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isnt the first? its not the 100th either

loud bison
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finally, Seasse

plain bough
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its open and got the squid only combatants?

loud bison
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no voteless or mob that i saw

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but uhhhh watcher spam, overseers, and mech spams

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maybe want the reinforcement booster and someone with a hellbomb for the last part of the mission

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for this

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or levellers/ultimatums

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for the first part, disrupting shield generators, the calldown can be destroyed

plain bough
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played my first mission, I'd say the new mech enemies are balanced well enough

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just a shield and some armor plates to kill the pilot

plain bough
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can definitely say that since the illuminate lack plenty of ground units, the matches fill it up with increased harvesters and exomechs to fill up the ground attacks

bleak patrol
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The Appropriators are chefskiss

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The new Watcher variant is also pretty funny

bleak patrol
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Impact nades

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Grenade launcher

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I spent like 5 minutes popping these with a shotgun and resupply

rancid ibex
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Are they spamming the new mech units like the same retarded way they did with Vox Engines?

loud bison
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not in my opinion

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more akin to hulks and war striders

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oof, the operations are not going well

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is this a matter of players not quite understanding it or what?

empty zealot
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Nothing new ohno

eager cliff
empty zealot
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More like they are playing on other Illuminate planets omegakekw

loud bison
rancid ibex
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Yeah so if you scroll all the way down to any of the Sickles and the Trident, you can see that there's a large blank page down here

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However no other weapon has this bug

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I can only assume they want to give the Sickles and Trident a magazine attachment system like the Scythe but their lazy ass forgot to implement it or they're too fuckin scared to make these actually good

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Like, only the Dickle is good if you run fire-resistant armor 🙏

rancid ibex
loud bison
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yeah

rancid ibex
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They just add another 1 to the code and call it a day and we get more heavy enemies than common fodder. Like, ok I get it's difficulty 10, but they don't make the spawns reasonable and it just ends up making the game spam them. The devs are never reasonable

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I've seen more of these mech things than any of the overseers

plain bough
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They should've added regular rifles to ground-based squids like the ones elevated overseers have

bleak patrol
unborn ibex
loud bison
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very

unborn ibex
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Probably the worst MO objective type.

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Followed by extracting samples.

loud bison
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samples is wild. drop into like a 5 with low levels to help with samples but I'm usually the only one grabbing them

eager cliff
eager cliff
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kinda boring

bleak patrol
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I always pick operations with blitz cause I'm not the biggest fan of tower defense and I will not play eradication
Thankfully squids seem to not even have eradication so it's either tower defense or blitz and sometimes the 3rd mission is just normal

unborn ibex
graceful compass
bleak patrol
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Not saying it's not fun, just out of all quick mission types I like blitz the most

graceful compass
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other coop horde games can do it why cant hd2

rancid ibex
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Cuz grunt fantasyslop

dire igloo
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Missed the new shotgun

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life isnt worth living

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im super killing myself

sacred tapir
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i forgot how fun the base machine gun could be

sacred tapir
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its a great flyswatter for the watchers and obtruders

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and it does a good job on overseers

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reloads quick enough too

dire igloo
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Im gonna kill you

sacred tapir
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anything to make your day worse boggy

bleak patrol
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I don't know for how long it was a thing but we no longer need to do operations for MO

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It was completely removed due to lore reasons

sacred tapir
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180 armor + 50% explosive res

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second highest armor value

bleak patrol
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Oh we already did the MO

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Now it would be cool if we somehow liberated the planet

sacred tapir
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honestly, the squids without voteless is already more fun

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ngl

bleak patrol
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Probably won't happen

sacred tapir
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the voteless really do bring the squids down a LOT

bleak patrol
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Even with the elevated fucks

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It's so fun

sacred tapir
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im being so fr, the voteless and damagesponge meatballs suck

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so removing them made the faction more fun

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even if there is just obtruder spam sometimes

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mildly annoying

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203985 of those assholes, idk why tho

bleak patrol
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I don't really dislike the voteless

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I dislike the amount of them that spawns on mindless masses

sacred tapir
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i do because they spawn in my ass

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normal or otherwise

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mindless masses just made it worse

bleak patrol
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Like on normal squids they are mostly fine

sacred tapir
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yeah theyre ok on normal

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but FUCK is it annoying on mindless masses

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yeah nah just spawn another horde after the last one

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didnt even get spotted by a watcher, no reinforcements

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yet theres 10 harvesters and 203 watchers, and then 20345 voteless

bleak patrol
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I do not exaggerate btw when I said that I spent the whole mission running

sacred tapir
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flame nade = 70 kills btw

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which is so bs

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i shouldnt get that many in one

bleak patrol
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Because those fucks were on my ass for the whole 40 minutes

sacred tapir
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consistently

sacred tapir
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ITS SO BAD

bleak patrol
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And as I said

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When a single impact incendiary gives me 60 kills in one second

sacred tapir
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the cremator cant even save your ass, theres still too many

bleak patrol
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That's a bit too much

sacred tapir
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you would run out of fuel before the missions over

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thats how many

bleak patrol
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I can't imagine mindless masses with a backpack weapon

sacred tapir
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500 fuel? try 1500 for how many there can be

bleak patrol
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Like I need at least a jump pack

sacred tapir
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its sooo bad

bleak patrol
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I need some breathing room

sacred tapir
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mindless masses is going on the list of "Unplayable dogshit"

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because its just not implemented well

bleak patrol
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Or I dunno give me a free frv whenever I go there

sacred tapir
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rupture strain has been comfy on that list

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for a while

bleak patrol
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Oh I have an idea

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I'm so smart

sacred tapir
#

predator strain is hardly playable imo, because i dont like stalker spam

bleak patrol
#

I will bring a mech next time

sacred tapir
#

inb4 it dies because its entirely light on the limbs and the voteless will just tick it away

#

happens every. time.

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mechs need tuning too

bleak patrol
#

I just hope it will walk them over for long enough to call the other one

sacred tapir
#

it wont lol

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never does

bleak patrol
#

Ok then I drop in a Bastion and just drive forward

sacred tapir
#

especially because overseers still spawn

sacred tapir
#

you have a better chance

bleak patrol
#

I mean it's still gonna die

sacred tapir
#

since it takes a long time for voteless to chip away 8k

#

yeah it will

bleak patrol
#

But probably kills more

sacred tapir
#

but it will make it MUCH further

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and kill many more

bleak patrol
#

And it's cooler

sacred tapir
#

before going

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8k hp is nothing to laugh at with voteless as your main opponent

#

i mean with bots that can use anti tank weapons its not very good, but on fodder its not bad

bleak patrol
#

I just wish I could switch between gunner / driver without having to exit it

sacred tapir
#

(which is retarded, i think the bastion should have heavy frontal armor and medium rear, with no light weakpoints)

#

kinda like bot tanks

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oh and give it better handling, it turns so slow unless stationary

fleet gazelle
#

I've been running around on the new map and I'm feeling a bit bored. It wasn't as interesting as Cyberstan or Oshone, it felt kind of... Soy. The only thing I enjoyed was grinding absolutely every enemy into a homogeneous mass with the minigun.

loud bison
#

also, are the squid mechs not heavy enough to set off AT mines? saw Veracitors run through the field

#

I did see they were susceptible to gas

sacred tapir
#

so probably not

loud bison
#

uweh

eager cliff
#

that is dumb lol

sacred tapir
#

nah its great, because it means i can just mow down their leg joint

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and it dies

#

its pretty great

eager cliff
#

yeah but they could trigger the mines and keep the medium pen

#

i rly dont see the issue

#

AH realism moment

bleak patrol
#

It's not about armor type, there might be some other issue

#

Brood and Alpha Commanders trigger AT mines and they have light armor at best

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Scout Striders trigger them too and they are medium/heavy

empty zealot
bleak patrol
#

Yes that's what I said

plucky lion
#

yeah i dove on an AT mine once, boom

unborn ibex
hybrid epoch
#

I know the shotgun is the main talk but I love the smg... It is everything I wanted reprimand to be + self inflicted grade 3 burns attachment

empty zealot
#

Nah, I'd say the main talk is cremator.

slim coral
#

These fucking bitch man

#

These fucking bitch

plain bough
slim coral
#

Man

#

I forgot how annoying the overseers are to kill

plain bough
#

I think the elevated overseers need lighter armor considering they fly all over the place shooting my head off

empty zealot
#

Mfers just replaced voteless with shit tons of watchers

#

This shit is so ass

slim coral
#

Thr Obstruder arent too bad to deal with

#

But I just hate how they fly everywhere and there is really not a good primary weapon to take care of them

empty zealot
#

Cause of bleeding right in the chest

#

Goofy ahh shit

#

Gae masters needs to tuned down the overall spawn

bleak patrol
unborn ibex
sacred tapir
#

Its like a flyswatter

#

Gets 1-3 in one shot sometimes

loud bison
slim coral
#

I still dont get how the overseer survives a buckshot from Double Freedom

#

Its so stupid they can just shrug off 800 damages

sacred tapir
#

i mean they like to fuckoff to a distance tbf

#

but if you mean close up

#

yeah thats just the ablative armor fuckery mixed with the fact their arm is always in the way of the torso

plucky lion
#

yeah double freedom against overseers is super unpredictable...

sacred tapir
#

thats why i bring the new shotgun

#

just enough stagger to stop them

#

but also more follow up potential

#

2-3 shots and thats without a choke

#

you can 1 shot to the head too

#

BUT ONLY CLOSE

#

because spread is bad

#

for the unmodified one

slim coral
#

Sometimes it takes me 4 shots to point blank an overseer

#

And it feels very artifically bullshit

#

Like fighting Devastator they are very equally tough but they feel very satisfy to kill when hitting weakspot

#

Overseer is just if you dont have medium pen, you are going to shoot them for a while

#

And even if you have Med Pen you are still shooting them for a while

#

Cuz for some reasons their head hitbox is very badly distincted

bleak patrol
#

As someone who uses the piss laser against squids

#

I think that the head hitbox is just fine

slim coral
#

Good for you

bleak patrol
#

Because it kills the overseers in 1s

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If you can keep the beam on the head

#

Maybe even less than 1s but it feels very fast

#

Literally a pop and the head is gone

light nymph
bleak patrol
#

Yes I do use the piss

#

I'm making it

light nymph
slim coral
#

Im really trying to use guns that I dont use before and so far if I dont have medium pen gun in Illuminate seems like I am going to have a very bad time

#

I guess thats just how it is but so far I like running the Stoker

bleak patrol
#

Stoker is light

slim coral
#

Medium pen too

bleak patrol
#

No, fire is Heavy

slim coral
#

Damn fr?

bleak patrol
#

Yes

slim coral
#

I always thought its Medium

#

No wonder it can kill mech so easily but tbf

bleak patrol
#

How do you think a flamethrower can kill Harvesters

slim coral
#

Mech is Medium pen anyway

slim coral
#

I kill Harvester w Reprimand all the time

#

Pop the antenna and the tesla emitter

#

Then pummel the joint

bleak patrol
#

You don't need to hit the joints

#

Because fire

#

Penetrates

#

Heavy armor

slim coral
#

No shit I dont know

#

I am saying before I know fire can fucking kill it I thought I was damaging the joint

#

Sorry I dont know fire is always Heavy

bleak patrol
#

I mean that's partially on the game only telling you that a fire weapon is "Incendiary" and not saying that "Incendiary" means "Heavy Penetration"

slim coral
#

Apparently

bleak patrol
#

Yes that also means that technically Coyote has heavy penetration

slim coral
#

The new heavy flamethrower a lot of peeps said it is ok ish

bleak patrol
#

Technically

slim coral
#

Like its balance is better than Maxi and Grenade but like

bleak patrol
#

Because the heavy penetration of fire doesn't kick in if you don't penetrate with the bullet

slim coral
#

I still dont see point of running it over normal Flame

unborn ibex
slim coral
#

It has better damage and stuff ya kno but feels like running something for backpack would be way better

bleak patrol
#

Counter argument
Big flamer is cooler

unborn ibex
#

You are basically making a choice; do you want your flamethrower to be maximally effective and rely on your team for utility and cover.

bleak patrol
#

No downtime to reload as well, just pick up more ammo and it's magically loaded

slim coral
#

I wonder how Maxi gun does in Illuminate

#

A lot of things are med pen so

unborn ibex
#

I don't bother because using the maxigun is painful

plucky lion
#

u can pretty much solo a reinforcement wave if u manage ur ammo carefully

dire igloo
#

Crossbow is rlly good against the new enemy

#

You shoot top of it once and it dies

#

Then you can just bring stalwart for the rest, secondary is whatever, backpack slot I really like the resu backpack and then I just use 500 kg plus some orbital

sacred tapir
#

For some reason

#

Thats AT I iirc

#

How much ammo does maxigun have now?

#

I dont rember

plucky lion
#

idk but if u spend some time getting used to first person aim with it, it's enough to do a lotta damage

bleak patrol
sacred tapir
#

still not enough tbh

#

not imo

slim coral
#

THE AMR IS THAT WEAK?

#

IT CAN'T EVEN 2 SHOT AN OVERSEER?

rancid ibex
#

Yes

graceful compass
slim coral
#

WHAT THE FUCK

#

WHAT IS THIS THING ANTING?

graceful compass
#

pos neglected support weapon

slim coral
#

Overseers are made out of Materials

#

if it can't Anti the Materials

#

what is it Antiing?

rancid ibex
#

Me when I add durable damage (idk what it does) that makes weapons deal less damage because I'm a retarded developer at Arrowhead who thinks Helldivers 2 should be ARMA

slim coral
#

AMR should absolutely ignore it

#

like for pete sake it shoots a high caliber round not god damn 5.56

rancid ibex
#

You will enjoy our grunt fantasyslop because we have military experience that's how it works irl

slim coral
#

what "military" experience did they hire

rancid ibex
#

Airsoft omegakekw

slim coral
#

fucking stolen valor from 3rd street bar sitting at the booth next to the jukebox?

#

acting cool saying "When I was in Kendahar"

#

jesus

#

it took me hard way to learn that 500kg is actually not effective against Illuminate if they just have shield

rancid ibex
#

Like the only use case I've ever seen for the AMR is no-scoping and spamming the shit out of it at close range. It's weird, it still sucks according to people I've seen use it, and it's only for the memes

#

It can't even snipe properly because of how you snipe in this game with those janky ass controls and recoil

#

Sniping is dead

#

Just bring anti tank explosive weapons

graceful compass
#

i have tried to use that thing for the longest time and the only niche it has ever had was for bots

rancid ibex
#

If I was a billionaire, I'd buy out Arrowhead and their games, put Helldivers 2 back into early access, lay off every single fucking dev, hire my own talent, and make sure the game is actually fun and none of that bullshit realism slop they want going for

graceful compass
#

and even then atp its better to just use other shit

rancid ibex
#

It'll stay early access until I've removed every single stain of Arrowhead in Helldivers 2 and make it the game it should've been

#

Oh right, there's no stain from Arrowhead because THEY DON'T EVEN MAKE THEIR OWN GAMES THEY OUTSOURCE IT

slim coral
#

the Eruptor does

#

idk why it doesn't

#

I have a question

#

why the hell is the mech thing eats so much grenades

#

like im not talking BF Grenade Launcher

#

like actual grenade launcher how the hell I empty an entire belt to the cockpit and the shit isn't dead

grizzled dagger
bleak patrol
#

I just came back from an op while using a liberator and the AMR and I think it was the best weapon combo I used on squids so far

#

AMR kills overseers in one shot

slim coral
bleak patrol
#

Which is where you should be aiming

slim coral
#

I was expecting it to 2 shot chest

#

no it takes 4

bleak patrol
#

Overseer chest has 600 health + 150 armor health

slim coral
#

which i was saying how the fuck

bleak patrol
#

And the AMR deals 450 damage

slim coral
#

yeh but its a high caliber rifle it shouldn't just 3-4 shot an overseer chest for no reasons

bleak patrol
#

Maybe they are just built different (they kinda are)

slim coral
#

but oh well

#

its pointless to argue

#

jesus even North Korean builds better shit than this

bleak patrol
#

If you want to hear something funny about overseers the look at this shit
Destroying the right arm is lethal for them, but destroying the left arm isn't

slim coral
#

idk why but it tends to be fastest

#

I guess Tarkov leg strat works

bleak patrol
#

That's actually interesting cause legs only transfer 70% damage to main

#

Which is more than arms

#

And less than chest

sacred tapir
#

amr isnt firing explosive rounds

#

so why would it kill an alien

#

in the torso

#

when we dont know their anatomy

#

for all we know, all the important shit is in their head

#

or smth

bleak patrol
#

I mean it does kill it
After 2-3 shots

sacred tapir
#

yeah i know

#

but 1 shot?

bleak patrol
#

Which honestly

sacred tapir
#

thats just a clean hole

bleak patrol
#

Have you seen how these guys are built?

sacred tapir
#

yeah

#

theyre big fuckers

#

like 7 feet

bleak patrol
#

Yeah I can believe they can survive one shot

sacred tapir
#

yeah exactly

#

see bots surviving one shot is dumb (but they dont survive one shot usually)

slim coral
#

devastator usually get 1 shot at their head fairly easy

#

I have more fun popping their head than overseer

#

idk why overseer head hitbox is like weird

sacred tapir
slim coral
#

idk

sacred tapir
#

for once, im being deadass, its fine

slim coral
#

I guess yeh I have skill issue

bleak patrol
#

I don't think there's anything wrong with the hitbox

sacred tapir
#

the hitbox is good enough that my dumbass was hitting heads when the AMR was bugged

slim coral
#

cuz I don't play this game to be great but I could have sworn I aim for the head yet it doesn't deal red mark

sacred tapir
#

that was when squids was really new

bleak patrol
#

As I said, I was just using AMR on squids

sacred tapir
#

idk the base game hud for aiming sucks ass

bleak patrol
#

It was literally point and click head

sacred tapir
#

too obstructive

#

i just use a mod to make the reticle and shit smaller

#

or easier to use

#

but with amr

#

just aim

#

yes that doesnt help with the amr

#

but that helps with the rest

bleak patrol
#

And Liberator was also doing decent work too

sacred tapir
#

liberator is fine

#

its ok on all factions

#

its actually perfect imo

#

in balancing

bleak patrol
#

It's the baseline

sacred tapir
#

it works on all factions, but theres better

sacred tapir
slim coral
#

I keep always forgetting the harvest has tesla attack

bleak patrol
#

Wear arc resistant armor, stand next to harvester

#

It's can't kill you

sacred tapir
#

just dont get shocked

bleak patrol
#

It won't beam you

sacred tapir
slim coral
#

man what's the best way to deal w the Obstruder

bleak patrol
#

And the arc does no damage

bleak patrol
slim coral
#

saw a lot of ppl using the Robo Cop gun

bleak patrol
#

Pacifier is ok but I don't think it's that useful on squid squids

slim coral
#

I like using Pacifier

bleak patrol
#

It's an ok weapon with a useful gimmick

#

It just needs to deal like 5 more damage

#

All I ask is for it to one shot kill all voteless variants to the head

slim coral
#

I was gonna say I wish it deals stun when you hit head shot

#

like guarantee

#

and not just like by chance dealing

sacred tapir
#

it should deal like 10 more, that thing has the lowest damage in the game

#

and its a rifle

bleak patrol
#

Because with 55 damage it's 5 damage short of killing the heavy voteless in one headshot

sacred tapir
#

glorified taser

slim coral
#

funny the Pummeler deals more damage

sacred tapir
#

the concussive liberator does its job and more damage

#

and more ammo per mag

slim coral
#

I guess Pummeler shoots bigger rounds

sacred tapir
#

like wtf

slim coral
sacred tapir
#

if the enemy cant shoot back, doesnt matter

rancid ibex
#

Retardhead balancing moment

sacred tapir
#

also i love when people bring outsourcing into the argument

#

all companies do that

slim coral
sacred tapir
#

retarded ass take

#

anyways

slim coral
#

that's all I wanna say

bleak patrol
#

Are we still doing the outsourcing stuff?

slim coral
#

idk what's the word "and" is for

sacred tapir
bleak patrol
#

Can't we like

#

I dunno

#

Focus on stuff that matters?

sacred tapir
#

because it hits like a fucking pea shooter

bleak patrol
#

I did have genuine fun with my Pacifier recently

slim coral
#

man

#

I just want the new shotgun

#

idk when it's gonna be here

sacred tapir
#

the sweeper?

slim coral
#

yeh

#

it's passed

sacred tapir
#

its out of rotation

slim coral
#

so I wondered when it will be back

sacred tapir
#

probably for like a few weeks

#

knowing them

rancid ibex
#

I get outsourcing is common everywhere, but when you see what 3rd party devs did to Helldivers compared to what Retardhead did, they did a lot more than what the main devs done

bleak patrol
#

I personally think it's ok, but not super special

#

I prefer Halt

sacred tapir
#

narrowhead was better

rancid ibex
#

Nah I call them retardhead now

sacred tapir
#

i like the sweeper

#

feels better than halt

#

because i dont need to switch

#

even with hotkeys

bleak patrol
sacred tapir
#

more effort when i could just blast them

sacred tapir
#

like idiots

bleak patrol
#

Yes they do

#

But calling them retards is too much

sacred tapir
#

sometimes the community is like "DONT DO THAT" and they do it

#

why?

#

or "we wont nerf coyote" just nerfs all fire

#

badly

#

at least they made it better now

#

but it used to just be sad

rancid ibex
sacred tapir
sacred tapir
rancid ibex
#

And also the doxxing incident

sacred tapir
#

for no real reason

bleak patrol
#

I never liked the coyote

sacred tapir
#

ok the doxxing thing, they should have done more

rancid ibex
#

Ain't no one should forget something that should've been a good thing to do

sacred tapir
#

not just a "We dont like that bro"

bleak patrol
#

Like, I understand the reasoning behind people saying they should

sacred tapir
#

why not? they could have at least tried to help the person who got doxxed, which would MAJORLY save their pr

bleak patrol
#

But doing more would probably make it worse

sacred tapir
#

that was a major event that they could have used to put themselves back into good graces, because as of now, most of the community is like xyt here

bleak patrol
#

Eeeeeh

sacred tapir
#

but they just said "dont do that guys, thats mean"

bleak patrol
#

The community was like that always

sacred tapir
#

thats a shit response and you know it

sacred tapir
bleak patrol
#

Like, from the very early days

sacred tapir
#

ok but tbf the game had balancing issues from the start

#

then for a while it was good, then it got worse, better, worse, better and its kinda just been like that

#

they just keep this up and down trend going

bleak patrol
#

Which is funny, even with the issues the game has now, it's still so much better than on release

#

It's not perfect, it will never be perfect, but it is better

slim coral
#

you know @bleak patrol

bleak patrol
#

Also can I fucking point out how a 10gb update made the game 2-3gb smaller

slim coral
#

I should have listened to you more

#

arm shot is meta now

bleak patrol
#

Shoot the right arm

#

I don't understand why but all overseer variants die from being shot in the right arm specifically but not the left

fleet gazelle
bleak patrol
#

As in, destroying the right arm kills them while destroying the left arm doesn't

fleet gazelle
#

Just don't take damage from them and they won't kill you.

bleak patrol
#

Can you even read?

fleet gazelle
#

It's easier to hit the head, because he's just running at you, and you have to aim for his arms.

bleak patrol
#

Brother

#

It's not about what is easier

#

It's about the fact that it's a very weird weakspot

#

Right arm specifically is fatal

#

Left arm isn't

#

For all overseer variants

fleet gazelle
#

Broke the closed power circuit on the right hand, disrupting the core's operation.

bleak patrol
#

What core

#

It's just a (squid) dude in armor

fleet gazelle
#

The Illuminati was a sad piece of shit and they still are.

fleet gazelle
bleak patrol
#

Funny thing about borgs is that their legs are fatal but they also have more health in legs than their main health and they transfer 100% of damage done to legs to main health so they will never actually die of broken legs before they die of death

#

And arms are not fatal for them

slim coral
unborn ibex
#

They are also WAY to fire retardant. Cyborgs should have a lower threshold for ignition than other automaton units.

slim coral
fleet gazelle
slim coral
#

manb

#

elevated overseer is

#

something

#

I guess ppl said they are fine

#

I found them like

#

extra annoying

empty zealot
#

I was about to send that one omegakekw

fleet gazelle
sacred tapir
#

good to know war striders are hellpod proof

#

just landed on one

#

he just ate it

#

cool

#

only enemy ive seen that can eat one thats not a super heavy

sacred tapir
#

anyways, still won, just left with no deaths, barely a hitch

#

besides when that little fucker called a bot drop

#

other than that, it was pretty simple

#

cyborgs are still fun, but i miss cyberstan maps

slim coral
loud bison
#

Dragonroach can be torched if you're dedicated enough

sacred tapir
#

the heavy flamer prevails

loud bison
#

I was having some difficulty with the Vox Engine though and I was not dedicated enough to follow through

sacred tapir
#

this is heresy, blasphemy

bleak patrol
#

I'm gonna leave this here as well

blazing finch
rancid ibex
#

SO sometimes, FRVs in illuminate city maps can double spawn

#

I saw iedy type

#

Is it because the FRVs in a seggs position

empty zealot
eager cliff
rancid ibex
#

You can make the Stoker and Sweeper more modern by just putting on the Helldiver paintjob

#

Polymer my beloved

sacred tapir
rancid ibex
#

Ok finally leveled up the Trident

#

Good asf gun

#

IT deserves the night paintjob for being a good gun

#

Going to focus on the trench guns now

fleet gazelle
#

Does this mean we'll get a chlorine mortar turret and orbital chemical bombardment? I'd be interested to see how they could implement a hand-held mortar.

rancid ibex
#

Overseers with staffs can deploy their forearm shields while aiming their weapon

#

Bug or shadow buff, call it

plucky lion
#

whoa i didnt notice this. they buffed my baby big time

unborn ibex
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slim coral
#

I know there is projectile drop in this game

#

But does it only apply to big projectile guns or do they also do to bullets

plain bough
#

pretty much everything but lasers have projectile drop

#

including plasma for drop

slim coral
#

Damn 😔

empty zealot
plain bough
#

ah yes, shooting the robot instead of the pilot

empty zealot
#

If you shoot those the shield will break

#

Or you can destroy the hands of veracitor since it also has weak spots

#

Cremator goes through the shield, though kek1

empty zealot
#

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