🤖🐛🦑helldivers

[bleak patrol]

Remember how we talked about the projectile dealing 0 damage?

Well it used to deal 20

But then they buffed the GL to penetrate Heavy

[sacred tapir]

narrowhead removing anything that might be neat

[bleak patrol]

And took the impact damage away

I dunno man, it feels a bit pointless

[sacred tapir]

"20 extra damage???? we cant have that!" - Alexus

[bleak patrol]

Like, it's 20 damage

Are you going to cry about 20 damage

[sacred tapir]

but its pointless to take it away too

its just dumb

[bleak patrol]

When you got heavy pen instead

[sacred tapir]

that argument goes both ways

its pointless to leave, and pointless to remove

[bleak patrol]

I'd rather have heavy pen than 20 damage

[sacred tapir]

id rather have both

[bleak patrol]

But technically the end damage is still higher

Because now when you hit a medium armor target they take 400 damage

And before with medium pen and extra 20 impact damage they'd take 273

Also that 20 damage was just 5 durable

[sacred tapir]

i know

that 20 doesnt do much

but its still dumb

does the projectile at least have stagger?

[bleak patrol]

I mean I guess being hit by a grenade would hurt

[bleak patrol]

Not sure about the projectile but both GLs stagger enemies if they don't kill so?

Lemme check

[sacred tapir]

yeah it would hurt a lot, im pretty sure 40mm can at least break bones (applying realism to an unrealistic game moment)

[bleak patrol]

Projectile has more stagger than explosion

30 vs 25

[sacred tapir]

yeah i thought so

because it should still knock them around

[bleak patrol]

The explosion has more push

10 vs 30

[sacred tapir]

so you can still use it to thump an enemy in the face even in the min arming

which staggers them, allowing you a moment to breathe

or switch weapons ig

not exactly anything useful

but still something idk

[bleak patrol]

You know if I was doing damage I would make the projectile do like, 5

[sacred tapir]

tbf our enemies are metal/big bugs

or alien

so they would take a 40mm differently than a person

so it probably wouldnt hurt them much

[bleak patrol]

Issue with bonking enemies with the grenade itself is that it will them bounce off and probably blow you up

Which

Believe it or not

Gl-28 doesn't do

Because it deals less damage

So you can't kill yourself so easily!

The player is 50% explosive resistant by default

And explosions can't harm limbs (for both enemies and players)

Which is a bit silly but I understand it

With how explosions work, you could just cripple everything with just a few grenades

But anyways

Since the player is 50% explosive resistant

You can survive an unlucky bounce from GL-28 as it will only deal 75 damage to you

But GL-21 will deal 200

You need to wear Fortified armor to survive a GL-21

As with Fortified you are not 75% resistant

So you take 100 damage

The player has 125 health

I think I found a new hobby

Helldivers 2 Damage

[sacred tapir]

i couldnt be bothered tbh, after i saw durable damage, i only calculate things when i think theyre dumb

i mean its not too complex

but its boring to do, i dont like doing it

[bleak patrol]

I like doing math when I'm not forced to do math

[rancid ibex]

I'm ngl the damage system is fuckin complex for a horde shooter game. They should just simplify this shit because this game isn't fucking tarkov

Damage, durable damage, projectile damage, etc etc

How many more damages must there be holy hell just make this gun do 70 damage, and make an enemy have 300 HP. Simple as

Armor penetration should also be simple as well.

Light pen weapons can't go through armor plating but can degrade armor and eventually do damage

Medium pen can go through armor but its damage is cut by 50% when it hits flesh but can destroy armor faster

Heavy pen can go through it with ease and destroy armor with a sneeze and do full damage

[loud bison]

thats the main problem i have with the beltfed, resupplying it. Its an ammo hog and usually have 3 others that also need a resupply per call down.
Now, if you had a second guy with the supply pack to keep you topped off then yeah, it'd probably do great in that regard

[bleak patrol]

I specifically did the numbers that way because the argument was that GL-21 with resupply pack is better than GL-28 with a resupply pack (that someone else has to wear obviously)

Or just both of them next to a resupply

Announcement
If for whatever reason I'm forced to play Erad I will run into the Pelican as soon as it lands and I will not wait for anyone because fuck erad, go fuck yourself for making me play it and I actually hope you fucking die so that I fly off faster

I absolutely despise this mission type and I actually think that the Retrieve Essential Personnel (rest in piss) was better

[sacred tapir]

the eradicate missions are something i leave to the end, then leave early so i dont have to do it

i refuse to touch it unless its reworked

[bleak patrol]

Yeah I just played with my steam friends and they decided to do erad first and then got mad at me for speedrunning my way into the pelican once we were done

[sacred tapir]

idk why

shits ass

just get it over with

and fuckoff

[loud bison]

lolwut
there is literally nothing left to do at the end
just go

[sacred tapir]

its not a team play kind of mission

its the fuck you im out mission type

[sacred tapir]

its standard practice to wait so people dont have to rush the countdown

but on erad i just leave

same with pyr

[bleak patrol]

Like I'm fucking sorry that your ego got hurt cause you couldn't kill a few more bots, I'm outta here and so should you

[sacred tapir]

one of the things we agree on

i rack up kills on missions that are fun

not on erad

i do the bare minimum

just get the obj

and leave

no reason to collect all 4 samples and kill all 200000 bots left

just go

[bleak patrol]

Like I do not intend to wait for anyone when I have 8 hulks, 6 war striders, 69 fucking berserkers and 2000 other shits on my ass

I'm going into the pelican as soon as possible

And I'm gonna sit my lazy ass

On that comfy chair

[sacred tapir]

4034 mg raiders on your ass about to aimbot you for some reason

[bleak patrol]

And wave you goodbye

If you don't get in in 20 seconds

Or die in less

Then it's your problem

Not mine

Like the moment the pelican lands

My heavy armor

Gets light armor speed

And I'm out of here

[sacred tapir]

true!

nah but fr, erads are miserable on bot front, i cant fault anyone for leaving asap

if i get left behind on erad i dont complain, im just glad its over

[fleet gazelle]

https://x.com/i/status/2029708366692688313

Helldivers NOW (@Helldivers_NOW)

X · Mar 5, 2026, 11:59 PM

[unborn ibex]

Why isn't it made of paper mache?

[fleet gazelle]

Why are you asking me this?

[dire igloo]

Doxz this man for making something cool immediately

[unborn ibex]

I'm joking about how fragile the tank is.

[shy schooner]

Lil update on this, this guy already donates money every month and was just gonna let arrowhead choose the charity themselves

[unborn ibex]

Well now he doesn't have a job.

Redditors got him fired.

[shy schooner]

Yeah...

Its so fucking awful

[bleak patrol]

We need to nuke reddit

[eager cliff]

Unfortuante what happened really, in that guy's place i would have been 100% sure im untraceable before making smth like this ngl

because humans are fucking animals and u cant predict an animal to the end

[narrow trout]

literally all 6 (prolly more) helldiver subreddits is just nonstop negativity

the mods are ass

[shy schooner]

The guy wasn't even internet savy, he just liked playing the game from time to time and had a passion for it yk

Thats what really sucks...

[dire igloo]

Hey i want the devs to play their own game for charity

[sacred tapir]

DOXXED

[dire igloo]

So were just going to nuke this guys entire personal life that he built up over the years and then nobody will do jack shit about it

[sacred tapir]

DIE

[dire igloo]

Arrowhead doesnt ban the doxxers nor does the reddit

Fucking cinema

They just say stop talking about it

Like what

[sacred tapir]

technically that guy could contact the authorities for a major defamation case

autorities being idk, fbi or smth fuck if i know

or some other shit

im not a lawyer

[dire igloo]

He could sue

But with what stable job

[narrow trout]

and how would you sue anomynous redditors

[sacred tapir]

fair i suppose

but again, no one did anything like said

"Oh we don't like that you did that guys, slap on the wrist, bad redditors!"

fuck off

[dire igloo]

You would need lots of maney

[bleak patrol]

Dox them back

No seriously I need to know where to drop my 500kg bomb

[loud bison]

man
almost solo'd a d10 to 100%
but illuminate stingrays kept screwing me over

and the SAM site that was there was in a mountain, rendering it useless

[fleet gazelle]

I thought everyone who reached level 150 could already understand the game clearly. But I was wrong. For some, it was a realization that 380mm artillery shelling would be a good idea on a Vox engine.

I don't know what to expect from them anymore...

[smoky ether]

I can't even say for sure that 100 lvl guys have upgraded supply drop

U're playing 10 diff, u need ammo everytime but fella can't even grade his own ship

[fleet gazelle]

[smoky ether]

Barrages are cool but gamble...

I love walking and 380 barrages anyway

[fleet gazelle]

It's even cool when an ally drops them due to ragdoll or death on themselves?

[smoky ether]

Not much

That's why there's only me using them in lobby

[fleet gazelle]

But you weren't in my lobby.

[smoky ether]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[fleet gazelle]

➕

[tired pilot]

W

[unborn ibex]

Vox Engines spawn to often for barrages to be effective, and are so high up they shield chaff beneath them.

[plain bough]

I went with regular grenades cause I had to get up close n personal to kill vox engines instead of relying on strategems

[loud bison]

look man, i just enjoy the walking barrage

throw it, walk away, come back later

sometimes, it's more effective than expected, other times it does jack

[bleak patrol]

This sentence describes every barrage

Sometimes 380 destroys the entire outpost, sometimes it hits 1 enemy and 3 allies

[plucky lion]

walking barrage is great because of the range it provides over others

throw it on the edge of an encampment and watch it go thru the whole thing and kill most of everything in it

[loud bison]

this has been stuck at 99%

[granite field]

Just got liberated

[loud bison]

oh
i thought it was weird for it to be stuck at exactly 99.0%

pfft

[granite field]

lol I just realized I’ve been reading it as Arachnar Secundas this entire time and wondering why the planet was named after spiders (besides the bug affiliation)

[fleet gazelle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JZDa-dzHn1w

[fleet gazelle]

It's easier to throw thermite grenades at it, or finish it off with two eagle attacks, or if you really want to, you can finish it off through the tracks, they have average armor.

[bleak patrol]

So turns out that kills with one true flag don't count as melee kills

Source - I for sure killed more than 0 enemies with melee

Also the flag gets progressively more damaged as the mission goes on, same as the player's cape

Pretty neat

[granite field]

You’re not technically killing anything in melee- you’re just inducing sudden death in unpatriotic elements.

[sharp gorge]

https://stupidpenisx.com/i/status/2030576810136948779

팬텀크로/fevercell (@PT_CROW)

#Helldivers2
Use it unwisely

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 8, 2026, 9:30 AM

[fleet gazelle]

https://youtu.be/dXzUd2qCabI?is=_rGepcG34XxtY4oa

[eager cliff]

[plain bough]

clanker is generally fine lol

[bleak patrol]

I'm killing them with purest form of democracy

[sacred tapir]

stupidest shit ive seen

if you argue "clanka" has racial origin in slurs used in the real world, so does clanker itself

theyre basically the same word, clanker just has a hard r

[graceful compass]

second highest level of retardation achieved in hd2 cord

what even is the racial slur origin of tinskin or wireback lmfao

clanker is more on the nose

[loud tree]

i heard wireback comes from wetback but like... its a slur from the 80s-70s that nobody fucking cares or knows about

[graceful compass]

yeah i had to consult the archive for that one

[rancid ibex]

Vibe-balancing and not balancing shit based on player feedback and constructive critcism

[plain bough]

AH just stumbling through success for a long while

[empty zealot]

So they don't test their fucking shit properly.

[dire igloo]

So the person that made the flamethrower

nerfed it to be putrid dogshit?

makes sense to me

[fleet gazelle]

Running against cyborgs is certainly fun, but this planet is so dark... My eyes start to get really tired after about 40 minutes of trying to see anything. It makes me lose any desire to play there.

[eager cliff]

insane L

so everyone throws in random numbers how they feel ok man

[dire igloo]

and retards doxxed the guy that actually had a valid complaint about the balancing of the game and wanted to donate to charity

they killed the man who knew it all along

[loud tree]

stupidest thing of all time

ruined some guys life cause he wanted the devs to play their game 😭

[unborn ibex]

Fallout New Vegas was vibe balanced. One of the devs, Chris I think, would just walk around shooting fiends with a weapon and tweak it untill it felt right.

[fleet gazelle]

Weapon mastery skill sends greetings.

[eager cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0

ww1 warbond

[dire igloo]

@bleak patrol your new favorite warbond dropped

[bleak patrol]

HOLY SHIT ENTRENCHMENT TOOL AS A SECONDARY

[dire igloo]

WAIT THE GRENADE

FINALLY ANOTHER BIG BOOM FOR ME

the third one to my collection

also wait they are adding 2 fire weapons

surely they buff fire now

[plain bough]

hmm a heavy flamer, bet thats gonna be subpar compared to the regular flamer lol

also SMG n flamer combo weapon

but ngl, enough warbonds, fix the shit we have first

[rancid ibex]

Backpack flamethrower

Yet we have the supply pack and the regular flamethrower

[eager cliff]

yeah hard to be excited for a shovel that you can find ingame anyway and it does nothing

[bleak patrol]

What do you mean

I AM excited

Cause now I don't have to find it

And it doesn't take support slot

[eager cliff]

if it doesnt have like 2x the range and damage of the regualr flamethrower

might as well delete it from the game

[bleak patrol]

Which is a banger

[sharp gorge]

https://stupidpenisx.com/i/status/2031216992024408545

Stan The Helldiver 🏳️‍⚧️ (@StanDiver)

You know your lead game designer is ass when the HELLOW NEIGHBOR WIKI is cooking their ass

QRT: Torykbirdthrowa
the Hello Neighbor wiki regarding our favorite master of balancing

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 10, 2026, 3:54 AM

[rancid ibex]

I don't care if it hsa 2x range and damage. If they don't universally buff fire for this, they should fucking scrap everything in this warbond

Ok maybe a lil too much, just scrap the flamethrower

Fire is the concern here

[sharp gorge]

Hello Neighbor Balance

[dire igloo]

why are we even hiring these people

[plain bough]

cause they're swedish

[eager cliff]

@alpine cypress truth?

[empty zealot]

Oh wow, new mortar
If they ain't buffing flame weapons I ain't buying that shit
But I wouldn't be surprised if this backpack weapon will also suck in comparison to a regular flamethrower + supply backpack, as someone here said above.

And surely that giga grenade will be heavy pen and be able to close titan holes

[plain bough]

bet 3 for 3 all the backpack weapon strategems become shit

[empty zealot]

Become? More like are

[pale hollow]

Meh, no new way to quickly dig a trench, lame.
"Bro just spend 10 minutes with a piss-boy shovel in a shooter game where constant movement is key"

[potent leaf]

reposting this again in honor of the new flamethrower

[alpine cypress]

no

cant get a job here

[plain bough]

I swear if the heavy flamer doesn't hit twice as hard and further

[eager cliff]

This , at best its usable at diff 5 lol

At dif 10 aint no way i can dig 2 times before i get nuked

[dire igloo]

Holy shit I just had a idea

so first you have to imagine digging trenches is viable
stay with me now
you dig a big ass hole and throw a minefield into it
the kill chamber

[sharp gorge]

RimWorld ass killroom

[light nymph]

it is remarkable how this warbond feels like something that has been cobbled together from shit they already had...
Shovel? That was already in the game
New SMG? Old SMG with the flamer secondary bolted on
New Flamethrower? You mean the thing that people have been asking for since release and instead of fixing the old flamer to be good they release this
Gas mortar? Again, a thing that has been constantly asked for for a long time now

@sharp gorge go post your porn elsewhere, I saw it

[eager cliff]

Yeah doesnt look that exciting

[sharp gorge]

p!explode 306425947715010561

[eager cliff]

[light nymph]

[eager cliff]

Where

[sharp gorge]

[eager cliff]

Yooo the hubba bubba rolls

Daaamn that shit was so good

[sharp gorge]

Wdym was

[light nymph]

BROTHER

[sharp gorge]

They still sell it

[light nymph]

DID YOU ONLY SEE IT NOW????

[eager cliff]

Yes

[sharp gorge]

Grim literally showed pics of him buying Hubba Bubba rolls

[light nymph]

I had this pfp for a while now... and even got animated stickers of it

[eager cliff]

I remember that i think but it was a while ago

[eager cliff]

Ok now draw the Kobolt having a job

[light nymph]

adventuring is a job

[eager cliff]

[plain bough]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-conquest-conquest-invincible-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-worm-job-application-gif-12169274590066387623

[sharp gorge]

Fuck kinda job is hobbling from cave to cave and digging out garbage

[light nymph]

ask Lara Croft

[sharp gorge]

She goes to TOMBS

[plain bough]

raiding tombs

a tomb raider you would

[light nymph]

a TOMB that is in a CAVE

[bleak patrol]

I'm buying it solely for the shovel

[sharp gorge]

Where she fights pairs of wolves and T-rexes

[light nymph]

i fought both wolves and dinosaurs in my last pathfinder game

[sharp gorge]

McNerd

[light nymph]

[sharp gorge]

That does remind me to go buy the 6 og games on Steam

Ah fuck the sale ended

[pale hollow]

All I want is a stratagem that launches trench lining with explosives to instantly construct a small trench, that would actually be kinda cool against automatons on non-city maps.

Blast a line of automatons and place a trench at the same time

[bleak patrol]

Also the grenade is shown in the trailer itself to be able to destroy an annihilator tank which has tank (duh) armor so it's at least anti-tank I

[plain bough]

bet 3 grenades and is just a non-sticky version of the thermite

[bleak patrol]

I will take a non-sticky version of a thermite if it explodes faster

[eager cliff]

Prob with shorter range

[bleak patrol]

I mean, it is bigger

[plain bough]

the pistol is just a smaller dominator it seems

[bleak patrol]

[bleak patrol]

Explosive resistant extra grenades

Sounds like something I'd use

[plain bough]

Oh the light set has a different passive

so the super store version should have a different one as well then

[bleak patrol]

The passives don't sound bad

Also I like the drip

[light nymph]

https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_1:Anti-Personnel_Barrier

[plain bough]

I'mma run 2 loadouts, dominator/veto combo and full flamer

[pale hollow]

not the same, like at all

[bleak patrol]

My only initial issue with the flamer is the fact that it's a backpack weapon and I prefer to use my backpack slot for a jump pack or warp pack

[light nymph]

yes, but it is a deployable defensive barrier

it ain't a trench

[plain bough]

I don't mind the backpack being taken, I don't usually use the other backpack exclusives

[bleak patrol]

That being said I did find great success with using the belt fed grenade launcher recently

[pale hollow]

We do technically have a deployable barrier in HD2, the one with the GL attached, it is just too small

[light nymph]

but in a game where every enemy tries to get in your face, a slowing barrier is just as good

[bleak patrol]

I only want to be able to enter the bunkers solo

[pale hollow]

Tell that to the approaching line of Automaton machine guns

[plain bough]

that is when I'll take the warp pack for sure

[light nymph]

https://giphy.com/gifs/little-lunch-stretcho-battie-5ns2z0B3P261jdLoSY

[bleak patrol]

That being said warp pack does open new possibilities for advanced enemy trolling

[light nymph]

they still walk to your face

[bleak patrol]

Wish it didn't use the same key as climbing

[pale hollow]

So then, I assume you are the type to take cover from enemy fire by deploying a minefield between you and the enemy, while just standing in the open?

[rancid ibex]

So true

No good expectations for the new flamethrower

Deep Rock Galactic flamethrower is one of the most satisfying and best flamethrowers in videogames

[light nymph]

my Automaton loadout is: stealth armor, Knight SMG, Senator, Smoke grenade, Jump Pack, AMR, Precision artillery, Strafing run

I don't do head on fights with them

[rancid ibex]

There's even a special modification that shoots out a fucking line of fire

[light nymph]

[pale hollow]

ok, but what does that have to do with trenches and barbed wire?

[light nymph]

because you asked for a strategem that gives you a defensive emplacement, I showed you one that was in HD1 before and could be in HD2

but it's not

in a warbond all about defenses

they added a copy pasted mortar

instead of DEFENSES

[pale hollow]

This is like asking for an aircraft carrier and someone suggesting a frigate because they are both boats, despite them serving completely different roles.

[light nymph]

ehhhh, not really

[rancid ibex]

Ahh, the Christmas Truce

[bleak patrol]

A gas mortar which fits the ww1 theme

Because, you know

Gas

[rancid ibex]

That, even a handshake with your fellow man, is a sign that, we humans are made to cooperate together for a brighter world...

[bleak patrol]

I mean sure it would be cool to have a barbed wire stratagem, but where would you use it? I can only think about the tower defense missions

[light nymph]

yes, but that is so minimum effort to add they could have made it a free MO reward but instead they put it in a warbond instead of barbed wire WHICH IS ALSO VERY WW1 THEMED

[bleak patrol]

Barbed wire can also be a free MO reward so...

Any stratagem, really

Hell, barbed wire could be a thrown weapon, imagine that

[light nymph]

barbed wire(as a deployable stratagem that needs animations) isn't in the game.
The mortar and gas grenades are

[bleak patrol]

Ok, and?

[light nymph]

[bleak patrol]

And what about it

[light nymph]

[bleak patrol]

Sure it's minimal effort and could be a free MO reward but a barbed wire dispenser could also be a minimal effort free MO reward

I can already imagine how it would look like, they would just copy paste the minelayer stratagem thingy and make it drop barbed wire

[rancid ibex]

You really think, Arrowhead would even do minimum effort in their own game

[bleak patrol]

You can get lazy in both ways

[light nymph]

man is missing the point so hard he's playing Payload

[bleak patrol]

Said the guy who always misses the context

You're saying that a mortar is lazy and barbed wire would be so much less lazy and I'm saying that barbed wire could be as lazy as a mortar

Literally just repurpose any of the minefield stratagems into deploying barbed wire instead

[fleet gazelle]

• CPG-48 Sapper (Medium) – Grenadier passive: explosive resistance + extra throwables
• CPH-26 Commandant (Light) – Hazmat passive: explosive & gas resistance + reduced sidearm recoil

[bleak patrol]

It's also lazy and probably the way it would play out if we got barbed wire instead and both of those could be a free MO reward, I'd also argue that barbed wire is better for a free MO reward because it at least is somewhat unique

[bleak patrol]

Grenade bounces back and kills them both, the end

[fleet gazelle]

https://blog.playstation.com/2026/03/10/helldivers-2-entrenched-division-premium-warbond-out-march-17/

[bleak patrol]

I will judge the warbond when it comes out and I get to actually try the new stuff out

But one thing I can judge right now is the shovel because it's just a reskin of the map found shovel but for the secondary slot instead of the rng support slot

[bleak patrol]

And I'm happy about it because I can finally just bring a shovel with me when I feel like it instead of hoping to find one on the map which will take the wrong slot

[rancid ibex]

Woah easy RR target

[fleet gazelle]

At least you can take the shovel from the mission, unlike the platinum ingot...

[bleak patrol]

[light nymph]

Bro is grabbing on the shoulder instead of under the armpit.
Bro is a fake hero

[sharp gorge]

He's also statistically aged 18.7

So don't blame a child for not knowing how to hold people

[light nymph]

you'd think a soldier would go through basic first aid

[sharp gorge]

That's what SEAF is for

Helldivers get shot into the field and maybe live

[light nymph]

true true

[potent leaf]

I'm getting big australian/british/commonwealth vibes from the new warbond

like the cape having toil in the name and the aussie national anthem having toil as well

I'm pleased

[rancid ibex]

Innit mate

[eager cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ragebait-core-absolute-vN7rfEQjNgGWVNrl4n

[bleak patrol]

They do need some grenade throwing classes

[celest elm]

What gun is that

Modded?

[bleak patrol]

Pacifier

I do have mods but they are only visual aids for aiming the ultimatum and the leveller, as well as added tracers to grenade and eruptor shrapnel

[slim coral]

WW1 warbond

SMG flamethrower

[unborn ibex]

You mention the grenade, but not the fact that one of them was a hair's breadth from turning your head into a interesting art piece.

They would have done it to.

[slim coral]

Basically SMG flamethrower nice, futuristic C96 pistol nice, backpack Flamethrower fucking useless, AT grenade Nice

I actually dont know if its actually Anti Tank the armor or Anti A5 armor

[sacred tapir]

so how much yall wanna bet this whole warbond is gonna be dogshit besides the grenade or smth

because it seems to me that AH can only make warbonds with like 1-2 good things each

[slim coral]

Oh no Id like the SMG and Pistol and Grenade

The Flamethrower is already dogshit no doubt

Mortar Gas is very

Situational

[sacred tapir]

nah im willing to bet the smg is gonna be light pen (no issue there) with like fuckin 40 damage because AH hates fun

[slim coral]

I dont know

Looks very like 70-80

Like Pumeller

[sacred tapir]

oh and its gonna shoot so slow too

just to fuck you over

well then just use the pummeler in that case

[slim coral]

Nah

Spread too bad

No fun flamethrower underbarrel

Defender yes

But ya kno

If its possible for 1 hand flamethrower SMG shield

Pistol is already light pen

Imma call it from thousand miles away

But there is supposed to be a trench broom

I think its SC store item

[sacred tapir]

AH the type of people to make a gun that requires 3 arms and makes you lay down so you can use your dick to hold it or some shit

and then call it realism

so i dont have any hope in them anymore

[slim coral]

If its realism the maximgun wouldnt even shoot

[sacred tapir]

i mean yeah, but they say realism to a bunch of shit that sucks

my least favorite thing is bug damage

they can like 2-3 shot you

what the fuck

[slim coral]

Its their "realism"

[sacred tapir]

why

why can the fucking HUNTER

[slim coral]

Aka objective realism

[sacred tapir]

the fastest unit

can two shot

and just basically teleport istg

[slim coral]

I remember predator hunter

It was such ass to face

[sacred tapir]

bugs are in general poorly designed for fun

because if you dont keep them far away you just die 9/10

funniest thing is chargers are like the least deadly

of them all

or bile titans

when theyre the "elites"

[slim coral]

Bugs are for some reasons

Very bullet sponges too

[sacred tapir]

the fucking HUNTER is the worst enemy

followed by the fuckass spewers that decide to surprise vomit you when you just dived

so you just melt

[slim coral]

Oh no

[sacred tapir]

or the green ones that ragdoll you

[slim coral]

Hunter not only 1 shot u

If they dont you will get poisoned

Dont forget that

[sacred tapir]

yeah that too

they made the most dangerous enemy (the hunter) then made it spawn like 2000000 of them

"bugs are balanced and fun bro, trust me"

yeah on dif fuckin 5

or 6

7 and 8 are ok i guess

but 9 and 10 are just a hunter touch fest

mixed with random bullshit

bots are at least kinda fun on dif 10 i guess

but i dont like that either

im an 8 guy

more fun to me

too bad retards are in dif 8

[slim coral]

I just do 10 to get as much XP for guns as possible tbh

Other than that Id stick to 8

[sacred tapir]

i dont use guns that have upgrades

deadeye is good as it is

oh no 10x

yeah when the fuck am i gonna use that?

never

thats when

the 4x is more than good enough

[slim coral]

Idk why they made first person so bouncy

[sacred tapir]

that too

[slim coral]

Its so nauseating

[sacred tapir]

also guns do not feel as heavy as they are in game

they are more responsive

but eh

in first person tho, in third it feels fine

but they drag in the fpp view

way too much

[slim coral]

I always like how for autocannon

They dont make the charging handle on the left side

So your character always pulls this very awkward stand to cock it

[sacred tapir]

idk man, thats not the autocannon's big issue

its the fact its outperformed in every way by AMR imo

oh besides horde clear

but whos wasting like 4 clips on hordes

just use your primary

[bleak patrol]

I mean, it's going to be dogshit for you and many other people specifically no matter how good it actually is

[sacred tapir]

fire sucks rn

[bleak patrol]

My head is empty. I have no fear of it being shot

[sacred tapir]

you light yourself on fire and kill yourself more

than the bugs

because they ignore fire for like 4 seconds and just kill you

then die

and if you get a single fuckin spark on yourself you ignite like a gasoline and match factory

and then die

in like 2 seconds

lame

fire needs a damage boost again imo

[bleak patrol]

I've had great success using fire grenades recently, I don't know how other fire weapons work now nor do I plan to check it cause I'm not in a fire mood rn

I will be in a fire mood when the warbond releases

[sacred tapir]

yeah the grenades work because youre not standing still

RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM

[bleak patrol]

Oh, also napalm barrage

And napalm eagle

[sacred tapir]

because flamethrowers have a whole 2 feet of range

at least it feels that way

and the strats work too because like i said, you dont die from them unless you stand in them

the big issue isnt the damage tbh, its the lack of stagger on the flamethrower

so it doesnt control them

[bleak patrol]

Can I get a napalm walking barrage

[sacred tapir]

it just hurts them, but not fast enough to kill

fire itself isnt the issue, its the flamethrower

and btw i think the stratagem flamers should stagger

to make it different from torcher

which is just the flamer but primary

and better

basically

[bleak patrol]

I'm not really excited about the flamethrower(s) themselves, I'm just happy that I get a secondary shovel, the armor looks cool and the passives sound like something I'd use and also the grenade

[sacred tapir]

just because if it staggered small - medium bugs is ok

what is good about the shovel?

i dont even know how you use it

[bleak patrol]

It's a shovel

[sacred tapir]

dig a hole

thats useless tho

well on bots its ok

[bleak patrol]

You can beat enemies with it

[sacred tapir]

but on bugs or squids they just rush you

[bleak patrol]

Melee weapons are surprisingly effective on squids

[sacred tapir]

oh yeah and you can hit shit i guess

[sacred tapir]

i more so meant the digging aspect

the melee part the hatchet does the same thing

[bleak patrol]

I don't really care about the digging

It's a funny gimmick

[sacred tapir]

oh so its just another melee that does the same as the other melees

[bleak patrol]

But hatchet isn't as funny

[bleak patrol]

No, it digs a hole

[sacred tapir]

i mean i guess shovel could have stagger

which would make it better than hatchet

for something at least

[bleak patrol]

Baton, lance and flag (yes) have stun, hatchet, machete and saber are great at cutting and shovel digs a hole
And chainsaw chainsaws

[sacred tapir]

the chainsaw is so sad

the hammer just took its whole idea and did it BETTER

[bleak patrol]

I dunno I have fun with it

[sacred tapir]

which is annoying

it barely has a point besides meme

[bleak patrol]

Chainsaw is very good at horde cleaning

[sacred tapir]

its a meme weapon entirely

[sacred tapir]

that sounds horrible

im pretty sure saber would do hordes better

[bleak patrol]

Saber takes my secondary slot and I want it

[sacred tapir]

shovel takes it too

if i wanted horde clear and losing a support slot

its MG-43 or stalwart

[bleak patrol]

Yeah but in my current specific loadout I want a secondary for ultimatum to clear squid outposts quickly

[sacred tapir]

stalwart is just better at hordes

than any melee

unless those are medium pen hordes

then just mg-43

simple as

[bleak patrol]

They need to be reloaded

[sacred tapir]

the horde should be dead by the time you run through 150 rounds

with the 43

and the stalwart has more than that

250 iirc?

[bleak patrol]

Not with the way the squids fucking spawn god I hate them

[sacred tapir]

idk man

squids are defeated by an MG-43

[bleak patrol]

You clear a horde and there's 2 more behind you, they weren't there before

[sacred tapir]

the whole faction

which is funny

[bleak patrol]

I ran around with a stalwart for a moment but I only did that because I was still running eruptor at that point

I still use stalwart for bugs because I still use the eruptor for bugs

I don't use stalwart for bots even though I use the eruptor because on bots I wear explosive resistant armor so I don't really care

I like using melee weapons because they are cool and nothing's cooler than cutting an entire horde with a chainsaw

I want a secondary slot shovel in case I'm in a mood for a funny cause I can't be arsed to find the map support slot one

I want a B E E G grenade for madam

I desperately need something to use instead of thermite even if it's worse, as long as it kills the same shit I'm using it

Speaking of which, high explosive grenade kinda fits that spot but not as much

As they will remove a hulk if they explode when it steps on them

Very satisfying

[plucky lion]

dynamite is decent vs bots

[bleak patrol]

Oh yeah that too

I need to test it out someday

[plucky lion]

clears drops of devs real well

[bleak patrol]

I mean

Eruptor does so too

[plucky lion]

also blows up spawners just being next to them

[bleak patrol]

[bleak patrol]

I'm beginning to like fighting on the squid front
Not because the squids themselves are fun (they are not) but because I can literally bring anything and it will most likely work

I had fun with bfgl, one true flag, defoliation tool and the almighty piss laser

All while also running around with a Pacifier

[unborn ibex]

It was this way in the first game to. They kind've hit you with the equivalent of a spear being propelled into your chest by a gorilla on steroids hopped up on meth. So the fact they rend you limb from limb is unsuprising.

Of all the "realism" to be bothered by the thing that makes genuine sense is strange.

https://youtu.be/hJEhexJWSm0?si=whzHioiPzsjuddlN&t=122

I have this one timestamped, but yeah the bugs have always punished you HARD for letting them get within reach.

[earnest stag]

Describe Pyrson with one letter

I

[sharp gorge]

L

[rancid ibex]

L

[cunning escarp]

I

[sharp gorge]

G

[cunning escarp]

M

[sharp gorge]

A

[cunning escarp]

[acoustic pulsar]

damn

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-8197900

[plain bough]

likely a trench shotgun is gonna be on the super store

[bleak patrol]

[bleak patrol]

Why do you L me, I trusted you

[sharp gorge]

That's exactly why, dear artist.

[bleak patrol]

[celest elm]

what did I do to the bots man

[plain bough]

simply existing

[tropic birch]

God the flamethrower used to be so good

[median trellis]

[sacred tapir]

slopaganda

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664276554427269155/1132249166379221024/caption-3-1.gif

[rotund niche]

After seeing this warbond be leaked for a long time I'll be pretty pissed if it's not

[sacred tapir]

if we get a trench gun, i want it to be like the double freedom

damage wise

i want it to be a boomstick

but i mean the single shot DB

not the volley double

thatd be fun

boomstick

[desert lion]

get combo'ed

[sacred tapir]

buddy just got hit by a fucking doom eternal 1 cycle

wtf

[sharp gorge]

A chud... proliferated?

[plain bough]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4l9MEWnzd_0?si=d0KtgM5hIf7MMXel

[plain bough]

This gave me a chuckle

[dire igloo]

it funni

[pale hollow]

I wish they would make the game feel like back in the beginning, the flow of each match felt better. A case of "I like the way this sucks"
The game feels less and less like the game I paid for.

Anybody remember when helldives pushed your team to the brink and created intense moments, figting retreats and fostered unique strategies (assuming one did not use shield + railgun)?

[plain bough]

now its a heavy unit check, spam all the super heavies like candy

[pale hollow]

Remember when a single hulk was considered more than a pebble on the road?

[graceful compass]

"oh shit does anyone have a precision strike off cooldown"

[pale hollow]

I do, I had an entire loadout dedicated to taking out hulks and downing aircraft

Laser cannon and stun nades + supply pack, I had to do teamplay as I could not handle tanks or swarms of other enemies.... Man, I genueinely miss the old HD2, yes it was unbalanced and buggy and kinda shit, but it had more soul that what we have now.

[plain bough]

then unique events like the shrieker horde on meridia

we ain't got shit like that

[pale hollow]

Which was cancer, but fun

[plucky lion]

now you get sniped by a vox engine standing upside down in a skyscraper from 200m away instead

[pale hollow]

Also, anyone remember when hunters could actually fuck you? now they just take turns jumping at you

The Stalwart was actually viable as a support weapon, purely to handle them

Now it is in limbo

[plucky lion]

stalwart is still perfectly fine for bugs and squids

[pale hollow]

I mean, yeah it is fine, but it feels like most other things are just better

[plucky lion]

altho since other guns got buffed it doesnt feel as necessary

[pale hollow]

I am convinced the biggest reason the game has (in my opinion) gone to 'shit' is that people insisted on being able to clear helldive difficulty consistently and the devs being both stupid enough to listen to gamers (huge mistake) while also having a deranged balance team

[plucky lion]

idk i kinda like having most weapons being viable to some degree. feels better having freedom of choice without much penalty. early on a lot of choices just kind of sucked. the cost is that you have to play variant enemies to get the proper challenge

but cyborgs and predator strain are still tough enough imo

[pale hollow]

Yeah, the variants help some

[plucky lion]

what we need next is variant squids

[plain bough]

we need em cultists, it's been too long since illuminate got a roster increase

[plucky lion]

a normal roster increase wouldnt be bad either

[bleak patrol]

I actually don't miss these days cause everything sucked more back then + armor was bugged + everyone used breaker shotguns and railguns

I do more or less like how the game is right now I just wish that maybe vox engines would spawn less frequently on cyborg planets and maybe for some more squid units and maybe to bring back the old fire

And I would also like for the game to stop crashing my laptop's display drivers randomly when I boot it up or when I alt tab

I do not miss the old game size

Oh and I would also like for the voteless patrols to stop randomly appearing behind me the moment I look the other way

[sacred tapir]

i would like the stratagem flamer (both old and new backpack one) to have stagger

and if they gave the bfgl just a little more damage, i could forgive it

thats all i want

[plain bough]

got the moolah for warbond, farm a bit more another day for super store shit

[bleak patrol]

I haven't seen a single super credit drop since the time I got 6 in a mission

In an alternate universe all 6 of them were 100's and I'm just chilling

[dire igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

NO FUN ALLOWED

DOXX YOURSELF NOW

[sacred tapir]

true!

[bleak patrol]

Shit, now I have to doxx myself cause I'm having fun

[empty zealot]

*Wish I had time to even play the game *

[rancid ibex]

I wish to be warped into a different reality where HD2 was actually fun and the developers weren't braindead walking on a successful game they don't know how to keep it from sinking

[rancid ibex]

I would like to thank a random Chinese friend who afk farmed SC with me in his destroyer

[plucky lion]

china divers. democracy's greatest heroes

[rancid ibex]

Is it me or can a fucking heavy fab survive a blow from a Leveller

I jjust tried it out today and a heavy fab, just survived

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ao_AdsQ5KDkrhx77Zi00jc1x4TCbtA7QkjTuUt-W5p8/https/media.tenor.com/bpdsnkM_f5kAAAPo/nuclear-option-nuclear-explosion.mp4

This is what I expected man

[earnest stag]

Ho li fuc

Hes a nice guy

[plain bough]

wish I had a chinese friend who's generous as well

[sacred tapir]

Wtf you mean afk farmed

[rancid ibex]

I'm serious

We kept earning 100 SC for 10 seconds while we're just chilling in his Super Destroyer

We started a mission and we still get SC now

Some new hack menu shits

[celest elm]

I was with a guy who whenever he was calling resupply instead of supply it drops 90 SC

nice to know you can do it whilst in the destroyer

[sacred tapir]

Hm, neat

where might i find these people

[rancid ibex]

In very specific times, naturally, the chinese timezones

Probably their afternoon

[sacred tapir]

And use servers in asia? Or just na

[rancid ibex]

Idk if you can change servers in HD2

But if you can find any chinese name and their rank is 140-150, and they play in diff 1-2 lobbies, it's most definitely an SC distributor

[tidal mason]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-skeleton-bang-shield-gif-9277739055507998422

[plain bough]

We need moar SC arthur

[light nymph]

More star citizen??? I dunno man, it's not looking good right now

[plain bough]

funnel another billion and 50 years of development, my grandchildren will be glad to play star citizen

[plain bough]

What ya think of this

[empty zealot]

"We don't fix bugs cause we are busy"
Busy doing nothing.
They can't fix their own shit, nor will they ever fix the outsourced stuff.
I've seen some comments on this topic,one of them said:
Yet another game that will be killed by its own management.

When the best stuff in the game wasn't done by AH themselves, then what to say, even, lol.

[sacred tapir]

As always, blame alexus

Hes the root of all evil

[bleak patrol]

Nothing

Anyways I got 6 SC pickups on the last mission

Not even SC farming

[dire igloo]

so most of my favorite warbonds were outsourced

Why world why did my joke of wahhh we are a studio sponsored by billion dollar company and we do nothing come true

[bleak patrol]

I've heard they are working on another game so I'm not that surprised

[dire igloo]

Here comes my next joke

[bleak patrol]

You have no humor tho

[dire igloo]

Sony is going to close the studio down after they make record breaking numbers just like they did bluepoint

[bleak patrol]

I mean

Seeing how the industry looks like right now

They could fucking make the best selling game and win all the GOTY awards

[dire igloo]

Ping me when it happens and tell me to go fuck myself

[bleak patrol]

Wait, hold up

Sony can't do that

They don't own Arrowhead

They own the Helldivers IP tho

[dire igloo]

Fuck holdon

Uh something something helldivers 2 gets taken off of pc cause a sony executive got high on galaxy gas and ibuprofen something something

Yea

[bleak patrol]

Well technically speaking that they can do

But I think they don't even need to be high on galaxy gas and ibuprofen

They are stupid like that by default

[dire igloo]

I mean we all know they do fent already

Why muh pc sales so low

Releases games 2 years later

Fuck pc players

[bleak patrol]

Actually now that I think about it

It would be extremely funny

If Sony would

I dunno

Buy Arrowhead

And them close the studio

Like, I personally like Arrowhead

[dire igloo]

It would be oh so funny

[bleak patrol]

But it would be funny as fuck

I cannot deny how fucking funny it would be

[dire igloo]

It would be even funnier if they bought all the companies that they outsource content to

And then they cant outsource anymore

So they have to make the game

[bleak patrol]

As I said

If they really are making another game

I'm not really that surprised

[dire igloo]

If it isnt announced at summers game fest it doesnt exist

[bleak patrol]

I just found out

That HD2 runs on the same discontinued engine as Darktide

[rancid ibex]

More proof these retards are just lazy

https://atomhawk.com/project/helldivers-2/

https://www.artstation.com/oskarse

A concept artist for HD2

Shame though, these look cool as hell, but some retard in AH rejected them

[plucky lion]

they look too much like real world humie shit

also lol clothes on a robot soldier?

[unborn ibex]

I have a mod that gives some of the automatons hats and helmets.

Helps differentiate which type you're fighting.

[upbeat wyvern]

when the texture pack release?

[rancid ibex]

Idk lol

Just gota hope a modder would pick these up

[runic sentinel]

https://stupidpenisx.com/za_bizz/status/2032489547691594205 @eager cliff

ERo (@za_bizz)

the voices in my head told me to make this...

#Helldivers2 #Helldivers2Art

vxTwitter / fixvx • GIF · Mar 13, 2026, 4:10 PM

[plain bough]

this is Iedys territory

[eager cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/zenless-zenlesszonezero-cissia-iiB8SIeSVoAqGwVev7

[empty zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375108617786626138/1382808929045708982/attachment.gif

[pale hollow]

People really do just see the #🤖🐛🦑helldivers channel and then

[graceful compass]

wheres the porn

@eager cliff i cant find it

[slim coral]

Damn

So we are spending effort or money into SC grind

And the stuff we bought not even designed by them?

[slim coral]

Ngl

That Hind looking vessel is cool af

[empty zealot]

We are spending money to buy sc, they are spending money to get a warbond

[slim coral]

Abysmal one at best

[narrow trout]

believe it or not
this is normal in game development

outsourcing is very common

[rotund niche]

I hope the new pistol is medium pen

[sacred tapir]

i bet its gonna be light

even tho i want it to be medium

[plain bough]

the website description has it being jet-assisted ammo, so most likely medium

[sacred tapir]

i suppose

[plain bough]

dominator lite

[sacred tapir]

i wish the projectile speeds werent so mid

on dominator

if that thing didnt have massive stagger and damage, id never touch it lmao

[plain bough]

AH not making special ammo types for specific weapons

[sacred tapir]

didnt we see something like that in files ages ago?

i thought there was something for the dominator about different ammo types

i want a traditional bolt style projectile

like eruptor

but smaller

just because it would be cool

(i just want a literal bolter at this point)

[plain bough]

in the files, but again not capitalized on from AH to actually put effort in

[sacred tapir]

ahhh yes, effort

the greatest currency

and arrowhead is broke

[bleak patrol]

But people don't fucking care because they need a reason to hate the game for

[narrow trout]

i hate the balancing practices
that is the only thing i hate on the game for

and it has gotten slightly better

[bleak patrol]

I mean, disliking the balance is at least a valid thing to dislike

[narrow trout]

ok well theres the bugs for client side stuff

[bleak patrol]

Being upset at bugs is also valid

[narrow trout]

...and i think the way of obtaining super credits should be changed?

[bleak patrol]

But being upset at outsourcing stuff, which is a normal fucking thing, which was also a public knowledge for at least a year but it's only a problem now, is extremely stupid

[bleak patrol]

That would also be nice
I however can't complain right now cause I got 6 sc pickups on one mission while not even grinding, again

Like I fucking warp into a bunker, look to my right, 3 piles of sc

[sacred tapir]

outsourcing doesnt bother me, what bothers me is balancing

[bleak patrol]

And that's valid

[sacred tapir]

bugs also suck i suppose, but i dont get that many, im lucky

outsourcing is whatever, it just happens

its a common thing, as stated above

[bleak patrol]

There's also another thing to consider

[sacred tapir]

everyone besides indie devs do that

[bleak patrol]

AH only employs 140 people and they are supposedly working on another game

I've heard that the new flamer supposedly staggers enemies

[sacred tapir]

i mean thats all i ask, stagger/enough damage they cant get close

[bleak patrol]

If true, it may be worth using sometimes

[sacred tapir]

so it doesnt seem to be a complete bust here, and it should have like, 2x the fuel of the normal one (i mean normal gets 4 total mags iirc, it should have the equivalent of 6-8)

just to offset the backpack part

because if im losing my backpack, it better be worth it ammo wise, because the original one slurped up all your ammo so fast

[bleak patrol]

Just a few more days and we'll see

[sacred tapir]

when is release?

tuesday?

[bleak patrol]

17th

[sacred tapir]

ffs

so many things on tuesday

darktide and hd2 release updates

darktide first, i guess

[bleak patrol]

You've seen what I said like, yesterday or so

That Darktide runs on the same engine as HD2

[sacred tapir]

yeah it does

[dire igloo]

Fuck these games

Who rocking their galactic deeply

Get on some real mens shit

[sacred tapir]

not me, shoo

[dire igloo]

Oil up and pull out your laser pointer and start screaming were rich with me

[sacred tapir]

anyways, yeah darktide and hd2 run on the same engine

im not sure how either game runs even close to well

they both have mediocre performance, but the fact they even work is impressive

to me

[bleak patrol]

It do be impressive

[sacred tapir]

i can get better frames on darktide though, so theyve managed to optimize it like 5% better than AH

ive heard that some fatshark devs worked on the engine before, but thats just what i heard, not what i know

[bleak patrol]

I need to give Darktide another chance

[sacred tapir]

also hot take, the classes costing 15 dollars each is somewhat fair

because each career in vermintide is about 3-4 dollars

and you get basically 1 tree of perks/traits

but darktide has a MUCH bigger skill tree for its classes

so you essentially get 3 careers in 1 class

also more build freedom than with vt2's

[bleak patrol]

Fatshark as a studio has a lot more experience with Stingray than Arrowhead

[sacred tapir]

they have more knowledge of its workings, which is why it runs a little better

[sacred tapir]

for instance, here you see these 3 pictures, each one kinda depicting the 3 builds depending which side of the tree you go down

but you can also mix and match between the 3 trees

so its 3 in 1

[bleak patrol]

I need to veteran my veteran so that I can veteran some more

[sacred tapir]

yeah veteran is really neato

my most played class

its fun

[bleak patrol]

That's a nice name

[sacred tapir]

i thought so

all my classes besides zealot, are humorous

ogryn is CaseOhgryn

just didnt fit in the picture

[bleak patrol]

Classic

[sacred tapir]

i love naming characters funny things, i named the zealot that because its a nordic style name for a viking looking guy

i just didnt know what to do for it

[graceful compass]

[sacred tapir]

fym smile

[narrow trout]

dreadful

[loud tree]

Holy fuck that support pelican (?) looks fucking awesome, what a shame it's not in the final release

[fleet gazelle]

I always get kicked out of the group when I do this.

[sacred tapir]

as you should be

all is right when the mine user is kicked

[fleet gazelle]

[sacred tapir]

we dont need mine fields everywhere

at mines are nice

because they cant kill me

[fleet gazelle]

Those who do not want to sign the Ottawa Treaty say something else.

[loud bison]

I don't know why I keep sleeping on Eagle Strafing Runs

[empty zealot]

Not like I hate it that they do that, but come on, the fact that the best stuff comes out not from the AH themselves, but the other guys, is quite funny and tragic at the same time.
And then they touch the best stuff that wasn't even made by them with their non-playing retarded ass balance hands, and ruin everything.
No wonder people are saying that the game might die because of their bad fucking management.

[bleak patrol]

You lost me at retarded

[empty zealot]

Like once in a gazillion years they actually do sth good, but that should be quite often.

There are so many things that can be better, but they won't do it.

You know that yourself

[rancid ibex]

I agree with painkiller

[empty zealot]

The most popular example of the "retarded" is their "we won't nerf coyote", proceeding to nerf every fucking flame weapon

[potent leaf]

I like to play and draw

[bleak patrol]

Draw what?

[potent leaf]

here's me sleepign