🤖🐛🦑helldivers

[fierce peak]

wtf happened

[eager cliff]

we lost

[near quartz]

Sony made it so

you need to link a PSN account

and PSN is only available in 69 countries or so

[fierce peak]

lmao

another sony L

the ps5 has -1 games

[earnest stag]

the worst timeline

[near quartz]

its pretty sad that this isn't because of arrowhead

but their studio will be closed because of it

[mystic pivot]

Sony said something like "So, do you like this game so much? Lol I don't give a f about you"

[plain bough]

the account linking isn't really the issue, it's how much they want from you while also they suffer a bunch of security breaches over the years

[earnest stag]

like everyone else.Buddy of mine also complained about it and funny enough

[plain bough]

I ain't got shit in my inventory anyway lol

[earnest stag]

i do but not what you expect

551 Games.

[plain bough]

I got 210 games, idk how people can find more stuff to play

[earnest stag]

Theres always "this new game we gotta play"

ughhh

also

14 years on Steam

[left sentinel]

it doesnt hurt the game is genuinely fun as well, like for a game that was supposed to be "game of the month", its a pretty good fucking time

[plain bough]

I got 13 years myself

[vague marsh]

i won't refund the game cuz its actually a good game

(also i can't rebuy it due to economy )

so im just gonna stay neutral too

[dire igloo]

the funny number

Time for a garbage meme involving helldivers

[twin perch]

I'm neutral

but it's relly sad

I hope AH just gets to like

Walk away after 1 year and make HD2 indie main lol

[vague marsh]

that's what they should've done

imo

but i think without sony

game wouldn't get this advertised

[twin perch]

the game wasn't advertised at all tho

Like

[vague marsh]

it was shown on 3-4 game showcases

multiple times

[twin perch]

HD2 had 1 trailer

and a few things

but it was literally

SURPRISE ITS OUT

and that's it

[vague marsh]

no

[twin perch]

no tv spam no shitl ike that

like wot does

[vague marsh]

game showcases like summer fest / game awards

showed it multiple times

at least the trailer

[twin perch]

Well, guess HD2 will now have the expected player numbers of 40k

instead of 400k

[vague marsh]

[light nymph]

[dire igloo]

doesnt sony own the helldivers IP

[sharp kindle]

ye

from a Goty contender

to just a mid ass game

[autumn talon]

[bleak patrol]

That's a stretch

Because the game itself is still good

[sharp kindle]

yeah

but theres no way it will be what it was again

[dire igloo]

i dont think its gonna win Goty

even though the games this year aren't good

[bleak patrol]

I never thought it was gonna be a goty contender to be honest

[dire igloo]

from the releases i know abt

oh I thought it was gonna win best live service this year

but thats all community dependant

so theyre not gonna win sadly

[sharp kindle]

even if snoy reverts the changes
or human eligible gamers mature and make a psn account
the damage is done

[dire igloo]

I think what needed to happen for this to be avoided was for sony to make PSN accounts makeable everywhere

and I dont think ppl would care after that like for christ sake EA has you make a EA account for EA games and blizzard has people make OW2 account for OW2 if you download it from steam

[bleak patrol]

I want to make my Antarctica PSN account

[dire igloo]

its just that most of the ppl boycotting hd2 have friends they cant play the game with anymore

[bleak patrol]

My friends are boycotting it because everyone else does which is a move I don't respect in the slightest

They don't know a single person who is affected by this

[sharp kindle]

this has been a thing scince forever now
but ppl forget
however this is a first for once
from not being required to being required

[bleak patrol]

And they didn't even play the game that much anyway

[dire igloo]

I keep being told it was in the description or TOS or some shit when game 1st released idek

[sharp kindle]

gamer mob mentality

[dire igloo]

I think the scummiest thing abt the situation is that the game was purchasable everywhere

and not region locked

it got region locked literally today

[sharp kindle]

we were never told explicitly that it was temporary
which is the issue for me
like i have no issues making a psn account
just not being told beforehand is the issue

[bleak patrol]

I actually linked my PSN account as soon as I started playing because why not, I already have it

This change literally doesn't affect me in the slightest

But there are people in this very discord who are being affected

And I support them in their fight for Freedom and Liberty

I do not support anyone who is just jumping in because "lol xd fuck snoy"

[sharp kindle]

It really doesn't affect
I could just reuse an old one

Shit just gathering dust there

[bleak patrol]

I've been replaying my Automata recently, so my PS4 is still "active"

But it's really inconvenient because I can't just Alt+Tab to discord while playing

I got so used to having discord in the background

I specifically stationed my laptop in the living room so that I can discord while playing on my consoles

[vague marsh]

imo game itself is fine

its sony that is the problem

because this update literally changed nothing other then forcing ppl to pay for a subscription

[bleak patrol]

Pay for what?

[vague marsh]

PSN

[sharp kindle]

i guess i didnt word it properly
game is good
very good
but snoy rubbed its hands on it
so no one would want to touch it

[bleak patrol]

You just link your account

It's free

[sharp kindle]

you dont need premium for the psn account

[vague marsh]

wait doesn't it require ps+ ? or whatever the subscription playstation has

[bleak patrol]

It may require PS+ if you play on PS

[vague marsh]

ah

[bleak patrol]

But it for sure doesn't on PC

[vague marsh]

my bad then

i thought it was on pc too

[bleak patrol]

Who told you that, Doge

[hallow rain]

No.

[vague marsh]

when i checked the drama

on twitter / reddit

[bleak patrol]

Listen, Doge

People will spread misinformation

Just to make it look even worse

[hallow rain]

These assholes should pick a better thing to boycott if that's what they're gonna do.

[vague marsh]

probablyh

[bleak patrol]

Instead of just saying what is the issue

[sharp kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[vague marsh]

yea probably misinformation then

[bleak patrol]

The issue is that a lot of people will just lose access

[sharp kindle]

heres your mistake doge
you listened to twitter / reddit

[vague marsh]

where else would you know

about the drama

[sharp kindle]

us
because would never lie at all

[vague marsh]

[bleak patrol]

We're friends here, aren't we?

[vague marsh]

and where do you get your information ?

[sharp kindle]

[bleak patrol]

[twin perch]

Huh

[bleak patrol]

huH

[dire igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[bleak patrol]

[light nymph]

[twin perch]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

By the way

Some stuff I'd like to know but I don't think it's feasible

What's the Sony cut?

Who does the supercredit money go to?

Did they nerf supercredits because sony?

[bleak patrol]

Super Credits got nerfed?

[sharp kindle]

[twin perch]

Yeah we went from 300-400 with a good seed or just running trivials (about 200 to 300)

to 80 an hour or so

[bleak patrol]

I dunno man

I found 3 caches of SCs on my last mission which is 3 more than usual

[hybrid epoch]

Tbh, I am not really buying that. I have heard that way too many times and never noticed lower SC gain.

[plain bough]

SC stashes is still good

got 600 in a good 2hrs or little below that

[twin perch]

I could be unlucky personally

[bleak patrol]

I'm not really going to comment on that because I don't farm SCs, I just play the game and gather stuff I find on the way

[twin perch]

basically what I've been doing

[bleak patrol]

I've yet to see a 100SC stash

[twin perch]

but I 'm gonna have to buy the SC for the pass

😩

I've seen 1

[plain bough]

Gotten like 3-4 of those only in 160hrs worth of gameplay

[bleak patrol]

I have 160h and I haven't seen one, damn

[hybrid epoch]

seen it once in 50 hours

[vague marsh]

man

[light nymph]

[plain bough]

Just waiting for the shitshow to come to a conclusion

[mystic pivot]

I find those stashes 1-2 times a week

EDIT: OMG I confused SC stashes with medal stashes. I'm an idiot

[twin perch]

Honestly steam should really be

No 3rd party accs

No extra launchers

Just game and maybe drm (I hate them)

[sharp kindle]

drm and anticheats can be alright

[twin perch]

Honestly

[sharp kindle]

but accs for no real reason are just busy work with no pay

[twin perch]

they aren't

Because they're 90% of the time poorly implement

provide no real protection, are kernel level trash taht doesn't work, and tank the game's performance for legitimate users

Nguard doing absolutely nothing about people hacking and shit

but still tanks 30% of your computers's performance

[sharp kindle]

i mean i personally see them as the same way locks on doors work

[twin perch]

What if the lock made your door 60% heavier and 30% more easy to break

[sharp kindle]

nah not that way

"a lock does no more than keep an honest man, honest" way

[twin perch]

Thing is

Piracy is normally an issue of supply

Supply and means

[hybrid epoch]

I must say, I appreciate the honesty.

[light nymph]

yea, the CEO seems like a real cool dude, I'm sad that his game has been dragged through the mud by SONY

[cunning blaze]

ah so arrowhead really did tried to sweep it under the rug until snoy demanded it

[dire igloo]

they thought sony would forget

but sony never forgot

[cunning blaze]

game kina did get alot traction

[latent zodiac]

AH may be responsible for the poor communication about the way the PSN linking was going to work, and how it would eventually be recquired

but Sony is still 100% responsible for borderline scamming people and selling the game to PSN restricted countries, knowing that the eventual update about PSN linking would stop them from playing

[sharp kindle]

you could say its the devs fault for seeing ppl buy the game outside of the coverage of psn and not say anything about it

but it could also be sony telling them not to since its not their responsibility

[hybrid epoch]

I wonder if they thought about that, or if they were blinded by the sudden success.

[sharp kindle]

they prob had other priorities about it
since the servers were on fire

[cunning blaze]

yeah they are developers

[bleak patrol]

Now that I think about it

[cunning blaze]

sony is the publisher

[bleak patrol]

It does make sense

[cunning blaze]

so kina on sony

[bleak patrol]

For the exact reason Frank just said

[hybrid epoch]

Not that it matters, my main complaint is about the removal of access to the game for some and once that is resolved I can live with PSN, although I would prefer it not being linked to my steam at all.

[latent zodiac]

im almost 100% certain that AH told Sony about this, and made Sony well aware how it would be a problem, but Sony ignored the warnings so they could sell more copies

[slim coral]

Tbh

Not too comfortable w creating another account

Especially w the one that get hacked every year

Even tho my info is everywhere on the internet

[latent zodiac]

data and info is barely a problem, seeing as how companies both selling and being hacked for every bit of information is almost a monthly occurrence

[bleak patrol]

I assure you that your data has been leaked from other sources more times than Sony got hacked

It will be just another source to add to the pile

[cunning blaze]

i get to decide which company leaks my data

[latent zodiac]

its not like those sensor toilets that automatically flush are selling your cock data to people

[slim coral]

Tbh this feels kinda like Ubisoft

[latent zodiac]

[slim coral]

Like the Crew access being taken away from everyone

Now its Helldiver with PSN

Shit is happening again

[bleak patrol]

Not really the same

Ubisoft just took access from everyone

[latent zodiac]

someone on official was defending it being like "well yeah, server upkeep, its their game, they do what they want with it" completly ignoring what it could mean if we allow companies to repeatedly do this, and how most games that get taken down for this could absolutely be given a simple offline mode to still be somewhat playable

[bleak patrol]

Sony will take access from a part of the community

Like, I won't lose access

[slim coral]

Server upkeep but atleast ppl can host community server like many games do

But they took like everything away

But oh well

They get review bombed to hell

[latent zodiac]

yeah
isn't anthem going to get the same treatment?

[slim coral]

Anthem?

I thought that game is dead

Like long time ago

[latent zodiac]

dead as in nobody plays it anymore, yeah
but is it going to get completely de-platformed and taken down like the crew did?

[bleak patrol]

Yes

[latent zodiac]

damn...

how did they manage to fuck up the cool looking mech-suit game so badly?

[bleak patrol]

Oh, it was a real question?

Anthem is not a Ubi game

[sharp kindle]

EA

and yeah anthem is mega dead

[bleak patrol]

So it probably won't be killed completely

If it were a Ubi game, I'd 100% expect it

[cunning blaze]

anthem more like eulogy

apparently some countries that have psn support cant buy the game

hastly pull out maneuver by sony

[hybrid epoch]

That pretty much confirms it had to be Sony who restricted access. Steam was absolutly not in such hurry to make a mistake like this.

That also means they are gonna triple, quadruple... down for sure.

[eager cliff]

oh they definetely silenced the devs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqwp1h-5l-g

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-devastated-watch-watching-movie-gif-14922607200232575847

[earnest stag]

my refund is still pending so i guess still som person will review it tomorrow

im eager to see if i can get the Stellaris DLC or not xD

[earnest stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912320242301149215/1236739461266538516/SIE_HD2_SteamReviews.mp4?ex=66391ae1&is=6637c961&hm=e2f51fc4a69bcf65e10de26f602dc8d42b1d7986d1008ca58edb518abef0de72&

Stolen from that guy that complaint in offtopic that brainfart is locked for him

[latent zodiac]

brainfart has been locked for me since forever, i got a ping about some "uprising" i wasn't a part of, then the channel got locked down, then unlocked, then i had the brainfart role given then removed withing 2 days

[earnest stag]

Your still Novice thats why you dont have access

[latent zodiac]

ah
yeah that makes sense

[fierce peak]

quickly done in paint since im lazy

you guys will get used to all the drama

[earnest stag]

already are cause most people here in the channel also "played" Tarkov

[eager cliff]

just a bit

[fierce peak]

i just dont have high expectations from modern games

[coral crest]

Done, flashgordon6614's experience has been set to 1,500 XP, which grants them level 5.

[earnest stag]

Last surviving live Tarkov player Iedy

[fierce peak]

me too

[eager cliff]

@latent zodiac say smth

[earnest stag]

Thats cheating

[latent zodiac]

look at this funny toilet guy

[earnest stag]

still novice lol

[eager cliff]

hmm maybe more xp 2 sec

[coral crest]

Done, flashgordon6614's experience has been set to 2,500 XP, which grants them level 7.

[latent zodiac]

wait what

[eager cliff]

bruh what is the level

[fierce peak]

mod abuse

[eager cliff]

!ranks

[cursive glade]

Whitelisted roles

<@&1067785003087450203>

[eager cliff]

what do you mean whitelisted

@solid barn oi

help me out here

at which level you get rookie

10?

!rank

[cursive glade]

      ^^^^^^
role is a required argument that is missing.```

[solid barn]

6

[fierce peak]

try something like !give admin @fierce peak

[eager cliff]

ah wait you dont get xp here?

@latent zodiac say smth in newbies chat

[solid barn]

Say you are regarded

[eager cliff]

there youy go

[solid barn]

This one I don't understand tho

!ranks

[cursive glade]

This server has no whitelisted roles

[late dagger]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4g0SqqrilF/?igsh=eWduZmg2b2liZjBj

gaming.documentaries

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So question. Why are psn accounts not available everywhere? Couldn't they just allow anyone anywhere to make one?

[pale hollow]

I betcha the answer is something along the lines of this: Japanese corporation doing Japanese corporation things.
They are not known for having the greatest business culture over there.

[late dagger]

Hmm very true

[pale hollow]

They could just have made an "International" region.
But they most likely entered into some really fucking stupid licencing deals with various parties, thus forcing their own hand at region locking the entire fucking world.

Such licencing things are common in Asia

They managed to cause about 200k dislikes on Steam in 3 days

This is one of the most brutal review bombs I have ever seen

The devs must be crying themselves to sleep these days

[earnest stag]

Probably since nobody can understand how greedy or dumb one must have been to do that

They only achieved the opposite

[light wren]

[light wren]

Surprisingly, the Devs encourage you to get a refund

[earnest stag]

Yeah i had a friend saying the same and his Steam got hacked today

[light wren]

I think so

I just put in my refund request today, so only time can tell

[late dagger]

Honoring what?

Ya I saw people with hundreds of hours get their refund

[earnest stag]

2 of my refund requests got denied today by the system my 3rd is pending since 3PM

[light wren]

Steam has made a few exceptions

[earnest stag]

So i guess i get it refunded

[light wren]

Okay nevermind

[earnest stag]

Definetly will tell when

[mystic pivot]

They are refunding even people with 200 hours

[light wren]

Just checked my email and it didn't go through

[autumn talon]

hola laffetie

[earnest stag]

Try it multiple times

[late dagger]

I wanna play but I feel bad lol

[mystic pivot]

You probably bypassed bot handled requests

[earnest stag]

Hallo

Yeah your first requests get denied by the system

3rd or 4th will be handled manualy

[autumn talon]

since tarky did kys and helldivers did an oopsie may i interest you in some frogs https://store.steampowered.com/app/2628420/Croakoloco/

[mystic pivot]

If you want to play just play

[autumn talon]

it doesnt cost 250 and doesnt require psn account

[late dagger]

Idk just feels wrong

[earnest stag]

Looks silly and fun

[mystic pivot]

How many hours did you played it? Just curiosity

[mystic pivot]

Yeah I can get that

[earnest stag]

Now it feels right

[mystic pivot]

Welp that's my same playtime, hour more hour less

[light wren]

117 Hours

[earnest stag]

I have 68

[autumn talon]

demo was just lovely, just chilling there and eating flies

[mystic pivot]

I'd like to have more time to play these days

[late dagger]

100+ hrs for me

Though earth defense force 6 is set to release soon

[narrow trout]

do you guys think sony will back away from doing this or are we fucked

[mystic pivot]

You mean refund request?

I can't argue with that. I got my copy of the game as a gift, so I can't refund it

Too bad tho, it was since Tarkov 2020-2021 I hadn't so much fun in an online game

That's true, but I think it's still fun if you play it at high difficulty with a group of friends

IDK

I mean, I know lots of people play it with random matchmaking and still have their fun

That's not my case tho

[autumn talon]

praise Ted praise

[earnest stag]

I wonder if their playing nice tomorrow or be like "hurrr durr your in Germany WHY DO YOU WANT A REFUND" they would be right also because i have a PSN

Same

Stellaris DLC

[mystic pivot]

If I could do that, I would probably put my hands on ONI and its DLC

[light wren]

Same here. I may be American, but I don't have a playstation, and I don't want one after this.

[earnest stag]

I have one for my gf lol

[autumn talon]

hey you seen what the game offers for multiple hours and can get a refund? winwin for me even if you can make psn account

#begreedierthansony

[light wren]

Had a PS3 back in the late 2000s, but that was it

[loud bison]

robomommy

[autumn talon]

i got mine from keyshop so im stuck with the game too, but it was cheap so i aint complaining

i should see if xsolla would refund my 150 from 2017

[light wren]

[autumn talon]

but this psn shit is sad to see, what is 2024? killing games for free by publishers/devs year?

[light wren]

I hear that. I had EOD for Tarkov.

Shit sucks

[autumn talon]

not really, i stopped playing live in like start of 23, been fucking at the drama, just like i have been at sony

[light wren]

Maybe one day I'll laugh at all this, but I'm trying to save up for a truck. I'm gonna need every penny I can get.

[mystic pivot]

It's like if BSG said "Look how it is possible to f' up a game loved all around the world!" and Sony said back "Hold my overpriced cigar and my pure gold diamonded lighter"

[light wren]

Real

[autumn talon]

[light wren]

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-metal-gear-big-boss-fish-eating-fish-speech-bubble-gif-25302549

[autumn talon]

i feel that, hopefully you manage to save enough

[light wren]

It's a really nice truck too. If I buy this, I won't have to waste money on car parts as often. A 2019 Silverado is a big step from a 1995 Silverado.

[latent zodiac]

got beaned from the official because i was telling the moderators that just censoring anything that chat was talking about in terms of people they don't like (grummz and asmongold apparently) is just going to fuel the fire so much more
i didn't even take a side for or against these 2 people they were trying to censor, just that actively putting down and upsetting the community more would make arrowhead more of a target instead of Sony, which isn't really needed rn

oh well

[light wren]

"Damned if you do, damned if you don't," right?

[latent zodiac]

true
i think it would have been better to ride it out and let chat get it out of their system, it was like, 2 people talking about grummz and how a moderator was (quote) "falsely accusing them so they get put down by the court of public opinion" until they banned the word grummz entirely
then their messages started all getting deleted, then someone posted an asmongold video, then someone pinged the moderator role and the video got deleted, which i understand taking a stance against people just posting more/starting more shit, but putting them all down and working against your own community doesn't seem like the right way to go about an already delicate situation

doesn't really matter now though, damage has been done in all respects, so the game is likely never gonna get back to what it used to be

damn shame

[hybrid epoch]

The really sad part is that I was telling my friend the day before disaster, that I am planning to support HD2 by buying a few SC when I get my paycheck...

[light wren]

That's why I don't join Game discord servers. I only use this app for my friends, but only this server is an exception.

[latent zodiac]

i was gonna use my 3 day weekend to farm enough SC to get me the new warbond
now i just, haven't started a match in a while

[hybrid epoch]

I played yesterday the crap out of the game. Kinda to have some recent memories of it if everything goes south.

Full premade squad, minefields, clusterbombs only.

[latent zodiac]

i've gotten my memories with the game, and this was with randoms
i spent a tiny bit over 100 dollars on the game, bought my self the super citizen edition for 60, then my friend the 40 buck standard so we could play together
ended up spending more of my time just hitting the quickplay button and going in with randoms

[dire igloo]

Bosnia simulator

[latent zodiac]

not gonna refund (not like i could), just gonna uninstall for now and revisit once this all blows over and is hopefully just fixed

[hybrid epoch]

Same...

[dire igloo]

if I had 40 dollars ever for helldivers 2 while it was alive I wouldve played the shit out of it, proof that I wouldve played the shit out of it:

I love horde shooter

[hybrid epoch]

Rock and stone!

[light wren]

STONE AND ROCK! Oh wait...

Okay my second refund request is taking longer than the first one. Maybe this one went through.

[twin perch]

Oh hey

a greenbeard

[light wren]

https://tenor.com/view/who-me-spongebob-gif-12100317477777910915

[loud bison]

me, playing the fuck out of hd2

[light wren]

That's double my play time.

[twin perch]

[loud bison]

nice

now do factorio

[twin perch]

just a bit

[loud bison]

Stellaris has my most played time

[vocal hornet]

Oh no….

A femboy….

[light wren]

Rimworld

[loud bison]

top 3 by playtime

surprised 7dtd is even coming out of alpha

[dire igloo]

this guyhas mastered the arts of

my life is a video game

if he was in a zombie apocalypse he would survive

[light wren]

https://tenor.com/view/my-life-is-like-a-videogame-soyjack-nerd-avengers-nintendo-fan-gif-24187436

[dire igloo]

elon musk is sending him to the moon to industrialize it

[light wren]

I couldn't resist

[loud bison]

elon musk utilizing the power of autism and adhd

[light wren]

To make the shittiest electrical car known to man

(It bricks after trying to wash it)

https://youtu.be/8AyVh1_vWYQ

"Some Fucking Gizmo"

💀

[late dagger]

My dude how do you have so many hours in 3 games alone Holy shit

[loud bison]

neet, unironically

too many head injuries, social security stepped and now gives me moneys to fuck off

[hushed oasis]

those are some pretty time sinky games tbh

7 days is wild to me but the other 2 are understandable

[pale hollow]

You are from the US right?
In that case you have like 0 rights to a refund, might get lucky still.

[fresh light]

Steam page

[pale hollow]

afaik, this is because some of the Japanese voice actors only agreed to voice in the game if their voices were for Japan only.
Also, that disclaimer has been there since day one.

[loud bison]

I was only seven years old. I loved Managed Democracy so much, I had all the merchandise and movies. I'd salute to Managed Democracy every night before I go to bed, thanking for the freedom I've been given. "Managed Democracy is love", I would say, "Managed Democracy is life". My dad hears me and calls me Plutarch Scum. I knew he was just jealous for my devotion of Managed Democracy. I called him a Treasonous Automaton. He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep. I'm crying now and my face hurts. I lay in bed and it's really cold. A warmth is moving towards me. I feel something touch me. It's General Brasch. I'm so happy. He whispers in my ear, "This is my Super Earth". He grabs me with his powerful helldiver hands, and puts me on my feet. I stand and salute for Managed Democracy. He hands me an adjustable, left handed metric wrench. It weighs so much, but I do it for Managed Democracy. I can feel my muscles aching as my eyes start to water. I lift against the weight. I want to please General Brasch. He yells a mighty warcry, as he fills my room with freedom. My dad walks in. General Brasch looks him straight in the eye, and says, "It's voting season now". General Brasch leaves through my window. Managed Democracy is love. Managed Democracy is life.

[sharp kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1787173070442299412

[sharp kindle]

man how fast they reply to your requests

[loud bison]

I do recall seeing that particular disclaimer funnily enough

[ashen ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cl6yzs/new_major_order_to_stop_sony_invasion/

[fresh light]

Petition to rename automaton or even new faction "Sony"

[late dagger]

Post has been up over an hr and no comment or likes lol

[ashen ember]

then leave a comment and like

[late dagger]

No u

[ashen ember]

I did it already

[slim coral]

Time to VPN to Africa to refund Helldiver

[raw folio]

Fuck sony!

We did it!

Unfortunately the war is still lost

[shy schooner]

WE FUCKING WON

[light nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bison-street-fighter-yes-gif-3718772

[slim coral]

WE DEFEATED AUTOMATONS

Tbh

It doesn’t save their reputation

[soft patio]

yeah the whole thing soured my taste for the game

I may revisit it after a few weeks of things settling

[buoyant timber]

womp womp

[soft patio]

get fucked sony

[steep fractal]

Ok but this

[cunning blaze]

still cant buy the game?

[steep fractal]

Yep

[slim coral]

Tbh

They removed sales from multiple countries

I think they decided to not w the change not due to them hearing players

But more of its causing damage to them from other community

[river pelican]

Actually insane

Never did I think Sony would back off

[scenic rain]

This is actually such a big win for gamers, these fucking corpos cunts have been dragging gamers through the mud for too long

[river pelican]

And we absolutely will continue to be but this is a huge win

[earnest stag]

They will be like BSG and Nikita "I said sorry WHAT DO YOU WANT"

[scenic rain]

Turns out bullying a giant corpo does work 🤣 cant imagine thats a lesson they are happy to have taught us

[fresh light]

https://tenor.com/view/trailer-johnny-silver-hand-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-wake-up-samurai-gif-26400744

[soft patio]

I hope whichever exec insisted on the policy has been given his golden parachute to fly into the sunset and fuck up another company

[hybrid epoch]

Holy shit, I didn't expect them to backpedal at all.

[near quartz]

a corporation listening to its players?

what am i seeing right now

this isn't the right timeline

[raw folio]

Dark timeline averted

[near quartz]

this decision will deny the Cyberpunk ending

[hybrid epoch]

Wake the f up samurai, we have reviews to correct.

[cunning blaze]

nah

[slim coral]

The fact that there are 3 video game company related controversies in literally 2 months is crazy

[near quartz]

like sony had a good fucking will

[slim coral]

Actually 4 if you counted Stellar Blade

[near quartz]

that isn't controversy

i mean today idk what happened but

[cunning blaze]

never

[near quartz]

there were 2 big controversies

[slim coral]

3

[near quartz]

when did the third happen

[slim coral]

Ubisoft took away The Crew sparked one

Tarkov w their Unheard

[near quartz]

i said today

[slim coral]

And Helldiver with PSN

Well you can shove GZW in but its technically no a controversy

Just ppl hating on it

[cunning blaze]

the negative reviews should stay

[slim coral]

Glad I never got into actual Playstation

I cant imagine paying just to play multiplayer

Forgive but not Forget

In the Sony case its Neither forgive or forget

[cunning blaze]

i wanted to list down reasons why you shouldnt but ted already stated the highest one

bullying works

[slim coral]

I wonder what made them decided to change their mind

I dont think player bullying is what made it worked

[cunning blaze]

money

[slim coral]

Because they doubled down even after player bullied them

[cunning blaze]

also since steam is allowing refunds

and pr is kina bad for investors

[slim coral]

Tbh i dont think those players will rebuy the game

So they lost maybe a hundred thousand atleast

[pale hollow]

Nah, absolutely do change your reviews.
It's called carrot and stick for a reason, can't just punish.
If we as consumers only punish bad behaviour,but don't reward good then they might as well have forced it through anyway

[slim coral]

Idk if these guys graduated business school

They made the dumbest decision

Just next to Nikita Buryanov

[cunning blaze]

this isnt good behavior, good behavior is like helping an old woman across the street, not drop kicking the old woman is called normal behavior

[near quartz]

nah but its like mr beast

he drop kicked him yeah

but he also gave him 20 thousand dollars

these reviews will not affect Sony it will affect arrowhead

[pale hollow]

Consider the following: we are dealing with a soulles corporation, much like a dog you have to reininforce desired behaviour

[cunning blaze]

idk whos job was it to make the game connect to psn

it really felt like they tot they could skirt around the requirement

[near quartz]

all the keeping the reviews negative will just be affecting Arrowhead

[pale hollow]

Was a contractual obligation set by the publisher

[near quartz]

not Sony

[soft patio]

Steam support spending their weekend watching a pile of refund requests and coming in Monday to see the requests were canceled.

https://tenor.com/RCPZ.gif

[near quartz]

the guys who makes the game good and develops it will get their studios closed

and you guys can finally shut up

[raw folio]

And nothing of value would be learned

[cunning blaze]

yeah well consdiering refunds are on the way and most countries cant play the game

[near quartz]

they reverted that

we were just talking about how they reverted that change

[eager cliff]

alo?

we won mr stark?

[near quartz]

probably Arrowhead also convinced Sony to revert this change

[pale hollow]

I bet only 30% will change their reviews, if even.
We shall prove to the publishers that next time, they should just double and tripple down, because people never forgive but they do forget

[near quartz]

yes

[eager cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/we-won-mr-stark-spiderman-iron-man-endgame-gif-15439970

[cunning blaze]

i hope you mean reverting cuz their game is still not on countries without psn support

[raw folio]

The reviews and refunds gave them leverage.

[eager cliff]

200k+ negativ revs

[pale hollow]

This was most likely Steam stepping in to mitigate liability, will surely be fixed also

[raw folio]

Since steam was honoring a bunch of the refunds they were hemorrhaging money they thought they had.

[near quartz]

valve doesn't need money

let me tell you that

especially when you're a monopoly on the gaming industry

[raw folio]

It's not valve who was losing money.

[cunning blaze]

it was uh sony

[eager cliff]

Nikita did it because he prob plans to cash out at some point

He doesnt care

Anymore

[near quartz]

well sony can lose money

[soft patio]

[near quartz]

i don't think it will affect them much aswell

[eager cliff]

Ye imma change back my review

[near quartz]

i'm pretty sure if it wasn't for Arrowhead pushing it with the reviews as proof

Sony wouldn't have done shit

[shy schooner]

I was holding out hope that we would win ngl

[near quartz]

there is no way a corporation would listen to their fanbase

Cyberpunk bros we keep winning

[sharp kindle]

man
sony backed off faster than nikita did

[slim coral]

Nikita doesnt even back off

[cunning blaze]

arrowhead shouldnt skirt around things like that anymore but at the same time i dont want them to shutdown

[near quartz]

hello guays its me nikita and i need to buy anothe r sueprcar

[cunning blaze]

if reverting reviews saves a good dev company then by all means

[near quartz]

please buy unheard edition

[slim coral]

Tbh arrowhead also at fault w this

[near quartz]

they'

[cunning blaze]

yes

they are

[near quartz]

re not

[cunning blaze]

but not as much

i wish u can review bomb publishers

[slim coral]

Still that doesnt make them innocent in this

[near quartz]

i wish you could bomb publishers

[raw folio]

They do have partial blame for not being clear that their publisher required it.

[cunning blaze]

i am flattered that you think of me like that

[near quartz]

we're johnny silverhand maxxing in this chat

[raw folio]

But partial is all it is, most rest squarely on Sony

[eager cliff]

arrow has like 15% fault

[pale hollow]

Yes, their sin was trying to circumvent the requirement to allow players to play despite psn server issues without thinking everything 100% through. Human mistake basically

[near quartz]

Arrowhead is the reason this change is reverted

[scenic rain]

Completely agree, if they try any other shit change it back, and just strike through the bad part of your review text to leave it as a reminder

[pale hollow]

Also, AH need to fire one or two community managers

[raw folio]

But man, isn't it great that we've learned a certain type of corporation has 0 clue what to do in the PC market? I wonder who else makes this error

[near quartz]

yeah

[near quartz]

that is unheard of

wrong reference

[eager cliff]

We should fire Sean as well

p!seam

p!sean

!sean

[cursive glade]

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[near quartz]

laugh at this user

[raw folio]

3rd times the charm

[pale hollow]

I still cant believe they hired someone who's only qualification was running a community helldivers Discord server

[near quartz]

!sean

[slim coral]

Sean must be Falco

[cursive glade]

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[near quartz]

hey man i told my employer that i was an internationally known bussinessman

[raw folio]

To be fair, one of paradox's longest running stellaris CMs was just the front man for WSC

[near quartz]

the thing i did was

trade tf2 keys

taunts

items

also csgo items

[fresh light]

https://tenor.com/view/powerjuice-but-at-what-cost-average-plate-gaem-average-plate-gif-12731589924783673661

[steep fractal]

Wasn't it reddit

[raw folio]

It's just they didn't do due dilligence on ability to be professional

[pale hollow]

Maybe they also did that, but Spitz was a Discord boy

[scenic rain]

So true

[near quartz]

and there are still people who suck the cock of sony

[slim coral]

Tbh

[steep fractal]

Someone said all the cms were just hd reddit mods and tbh it explains a lot

[slim coral]

This fight against Sony should be a Major Order

[eager cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-ready-to-go-helmet-squad-gif-16327669

[slim coral]

We should be rewarded in game for completing this major order

[pale hollow]

Twinbeard is based though, has an actual brain instead of some simplistic nerve center

[near quartz]

clueless fucks

"What's wrong with making a account"

[steep fractal]

I'm not in the discord so

[steep fractal]

"What's stopping them from forcing ps+ on pc" 🔥

[near quartz]

ok lets say

that everybody can access this

and also this was announced from day 1

the security leaks

would still anger people

[pale hollow]

Lets just say that he is the only one apart from the CEO who manages to communicate like someone with a modicum of PR training.
He answers tons of questions without being a dick and seems like he understands the community.

[near quartz]

maybe not a big amount of the community

but it would still anger people

[steep fractal]

Wao

[eager cliff]

Spitz should definetely control himself

He is part of a good game, cant shit on it like this

[slim coral]

I wonder what happened to Joel rn

[eager cliff]

he left a bad review

[slim coral]

Uhm

[steep fractal]

[raw folio]

He needs some PR training

[pale hollow]

Spitz's idiocy might have actually helped against Sony.
He basically told people to review bomb the game. I imagine CEO Pilestead is going to bring him to the shed and beats his ass raw as punishment though.

[raw folio]

Unless he was the scapegoat

[eager cliff]

Pilestead is too good for that

[slim coral]

Did ppl spam riot in Helldiver discord

[eager cliff]

He is so innocent in this world of dog CEOs

[pale hollow]

Nah, he just built stupid

[eager cliff]

oh yes they did

[slim coral]

I guess thats always the default huh

[pale hollow]

People basically need to view C-level execs and corporations as animals.
There is no good and evil, only a spectrum ranging from well trained good behavior to wild animal

[hushed oasis]

I never truly got the reason for the spitz hate tbh. if someone @'d me for 2 hours saying I"m going to uninstall and leave" I'd ask him why he's still around too.

[raw folio]

The difference is it's part of his job unfortunately

[eager cliff]

he could just turn off pings and let the corpos battle it out

in the end that is what happened

[raw folio]

A CM is much different than you or I, they get paid.

[eager cliff]

no reason to fuel the fire i guess

make yourself look dumb

or literally copy Pilestedt and say , we are working on it, we are talking etc

[hushed oasis]

fair enough reason

[eager cliff]

We are displeased

etc

[pale hollow]

On the GAMMA server we can tell people to fuck themselves, because we don't get paid for this this.
An actual front facing employee should behave in certain more moderate ways.

[cunning blaze]

if theres a silverlining to this whole ordeal is taht i got my friends back to playing drg

[raw folio]

Like as much as I wanna walk out and tell the client i'm working for they're a goddamn piss drinking idiot, I cannot as I get paid to listen to their asinine claims about my work.

[eager cliff]

@solid barn

Sean demotion imminent

[near quartz]

holy shit i just found the most bootlicking account ever

[cunning blaze]

seans gonna be free?

[pale hollow]

Define "free".
Like children roaming the streets of post-war Korea?
Or like having freedom?

[cunning blaze]

children roaming the streets of post-#🔨modded-gamma-support

[raw folio]

A fate worse than the zone

[pale hollow]

Can they truly be considered free if you have to provide them with expensive psychiatric care for the rest of their misserable lives?

[raw folio]

"What do you mean this mod I installed that hasn't been updated in 2 years is bricking my save?"

[twin perch]

We won

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19

PlayStation (@PlayStation) on X

Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward.

We’re still…

Twitter · May 6, 2024, 4:00 AM

@light nymph

[light nymph]

I know

[fiery rose]

wake up
read sony drops psn linking

the west is back

[hushed oasis]

Grim who did the pixel art for your pfp?

[pale hollow]

I really hope, but don't expect, that the majority of the negative reviews are either removed or changed by people.

[slim coral]

The bear and the bull came

Idk why they came

But they came

[fiery rose]

out of context this looks kinda funnt

[hushed oasis]

the 95% of the players standing with the 5% who would be locked out of their purchase is truly the most brothers in arms thing that could have happened

[pale hollow]

If you were stuck in a forest, would you rather be alone with a bear terminid or a man.

[near quartz]

177 countries

is not %5

[pale hollow]

Still a small minority

[hybrid epoch]

Dead bug is good bug, I would choose a fellow man of course.

[hushed oasis]

I mean its alot of countries but I'm sure the population metrics still puts them as a minority of the game owners, just because of how many people bought it.

[near quartz]

also this isn't just because of them being blocked

you will make a PSN account

then you will buy something

now your bank information is in PSN

[hybrid epoch]

But that is really the lesser issue

[near quartz]

and the next day hackers steal that information

[pale hollow]

I mean, Steam handles the payment info, not Sony

[near quartz]

well but still

any information

that PSN wants

can be stolen

and easily stolen that is considering the data breaches

[hushed oasis]

they already got my account from when I played Warhawks on the ps3 good times....

[fiery rose]

i mean anything can be stolen

[near quartz]

that's the thing

PSN is especially not secure

[fiery rose]

it just depends on who you want your data stolen from and who is responsible:P

[near quartz]

like steam won't let any information get out

and not only your info

also studios info

does anybody know what is going on inside those studios

[pale hollow]

Cocaine

[near quartz]

real

[cunning blaze]

nah their excuse to let u sign in to psn for security reasons is bs they just want to inflate their numbers since their inflation freaks

[hybrid epoch]

Fug... I can't change review through mobile.

[cunning blaze]

review: positive
"dont let this shit happen again"

[eternal breach]

Chat did we win

[earnest stag]

Mine didnt get stolen since ive got no payment method linked and my PSN was already hacked.

Ive even got my Account back within 6 hours

[near quartz]

what

[cunning blaze]

linked my neighbors bank info, checkmate hackers

[earnest stag]

• 100€

Cause they refunded some Fifa shit the hackers bought via stolen cards lol

I dont even play Fifa

[mystic pivot]

Managed democracy seems to work after all

[near quartz]

Oh thats nice

[hot vale]

[hybrid epoch]

Nevermind I can just change the review through browser.

[hybrid epoch]

Keeping the tradition alive

[twin perch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/953000327391625246/1236919734499282964/1714968705559879.png?ex=6639c2c5&is=66387145&hm=87f1466ad86d93526a0e5cfc71c6f4a4ef9643ed025a43e7861d01d539b4e724&

[eager cliff]

@granite nest

animal speak Earth language

[void solar]

polecam

[fresh light]

I'd love it if it's were true

[eager cliff]

we can go back to regular memes now

[vocal hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-that-fits-yeah-that-fits-gif-22103625

[steep fractal]

https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1787370710597312605

Pilestedt (@Pilestedt) on X

Also, the accidental cape design is pretty cool. From a community member.

Twitter · May 6, 2024, 6:35 AM

[eager cliff]

@light nymph

we saved you

[fiery rose]

id unironically use it.
only problem is there is no teal armor except for the pre-order armor

[dire igloo]

Did the divers win

No more psn?

[hybrid epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-its-gone-tada-gif-15960040

Note to self, if I ever want to pull a fast one on gaming community, do it in a toxic pvp game where noone ever unites.

[light nymph]

#🤖🐛🦑helldivers message

[eager cliff]

the reviews are slowly going up

god bless

[light nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[plucky steppe]

Wait for the rest of the americans to wake up

[eager cliff]

@latent zodiac

[plain bough]

Woke up, did we win against sony

[eager cliff]

Yes

[plain bough]

Hallelujah

[eager cliff]

[echo verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/355354448983490561/1236908713005023322/image.png

[mystic pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-democracy-moment-gif-676178966146504450

[noble kestrel]

Still gonna keep my review negative.

[pale hollow]

That is only going to show that corporations should never falter and instead should double down.

Carrot and stick, you know

[hybrid epoch]

There is no war. Don't get paranoid.

[pale hollow]

Treaty of Versailles moment

Keep them down, no way that goes wrong in any way

[noble kestrel]

I'll remove it once it reflects on the steam page. just wanted to be melodramatic is all..

[scenic rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvkzM_-OlK8

[pale hollow]

I feel like it might have something to do with the fact that they suffered one of the worst review bombs in gaming history

Oh 100%
But keeping the IP alive could be valuable down the line

[unique oxide]

What exactly are you waiting for?

[noble kestrel]

for the announcement on steam that they've reversed their decision.

im aware they've posted it on twitter

[unique oxide]

Fair

[pale hollow]

Finisher https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103229065395191849/1236993265056878602/helldivers2.exe_2024.05.05_-_14.30.16.34.DVR_-_Trim_-_Trim1.mp4?ex=663a0740&is=6638b5c0&hm=38c2e091ab42da4663ae0052158cf1a255876495acd9357898de7b14f81e05ee&

[dire igloo]

!sean

[cursive glade]

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[mystic pivot]

https://youtu.be/ikZ6TA1fy18?si=zTvEg4R9T7hue2Ez

[eager cliff]

Yay helldivers is saved

[agile grove]

We won, lads

[dire igloo]

Today is a good day

[agile grove]

Absolutely!

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-hug-explosion-bro-gif-16956270512918971225

Victory hug, everyone!

[plain bough]

Sony's got a taste of Liber-tea this day

[autumn talon]

imma say they didnt go forward with the update because steam started to give refunds to people, it was all about the money

[plain bough]

fuck with the money pipeline and they'll bend like a pretzel

[pale hollow]

Big corporations only care about money, realized and unrealized. That is their purpose after all.

[rotund plaza]

i shot my teamamte in the head with a P-4 after he used me as a stratogem

[gaunt topaz]

ok helldiver goons

[pale hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-officers-traitor-freedom-camp-gif-16727483111821505126

[gaunt topaz]

now that the game isnt gonna turn retarded with the account linking

im back to considering buying helldivers

[pale hollow]

GotY material 💯

[gaunt topaz]

i got 1 friend that would play it with me and 1 friend that has it but is an actual bum and doesnt fuck with multiplayer games that arent pvp

so like only 1 friend that would play

the other one played 6.3 hours and is never gonna fucking touch helldivers again

[pale hollow]

Game is honestly great both with and without friends

[gaunt topaz]

it does interest me, especially the progression

and the weapons

i saw that there's a revolver. i love me some revolvers

[pale hollow]

And, you do get to try the game for 2 hours, assuming you buy directly from Steam.

[gaunt topaz]

that's the plan

[pale hollow]

They just gave it a speedloader

[gaunt topaz]

so is it good

[plain bough]

very good, you can also be revolver ocelot with it

[pale hollow]

It is locked behind a warbond though, so either you need to spend 10$ or grind the regular progression for a while before you can access it... But then again, having to gind also goes for the Plas-1 in the free warbond so not a huge issue

[gaunt topaz]

i heard the grind isnt that bad

[plain bough]

it isn't

[gaunt topaz]

coolio

[plain bough]

the first few days too gives alot of SC, enough to purchase any warbond

I myself already maxed out on everything, just waiting for the new warbond

[pale hollow]

The first warbond with the revolver is actually what I would consider the best starter warbond at the moment, so if you really like revolvers then that should come as good news.
Although, that might change with the upcoming bond, who knows.

[gaunt topaz]

imma be real

i first got actually interested in helldivers on may 2

and then on may 3 the game almost got fucked by sony

[plain bough]

you afraid you being interested gonna fuck it again lol?

[gaunt topaz]

imagine that luck

[eager cliff]

im down to play with u ham man

we shall turn every planet into Romanian Kingdom

[gaunt topaz]

[plain bough]

we'll drag you to Helldive difficulty

[eager cliff]

The Romano-Romanian Galactic Empire

[gaunt topaz]

i'll probably buy the game in a few hours

[eager cliff]

y

get it on cd keys

its cheaper

[gaunt topaz]

true..

[pale hollow]

Let the poor guy learn to crawl before you force him to run a marathon at full sprint

[eager cliff]

e doar 150 lei

145

ez

[gaunt topaz]

i never trust that shit fo some reason

[eager cliff]

i got it from there and even gifted it , it's fine

maybe on more expensive games i would understand but this one is worth it

[twin perch]

Mind you, not all reseller sites are legit

but that one is

[eager cliff]

yeah

it's ok

[plain bough]

cdkeys got dlcs too?

[gaunt topaz]

alr so cdkeys.com good?

[pale hollow]

CD keys, Kinguin, G2A are all money laundering sites btw

[eager cliff]

ye it should

ye cd keys com

[gaunt topaz]

love me some money laundering

[unique oxide]

Eww G2A

Would you like some keys that were eiether stolen or paid for with stolen credit cards?

[gaunt topaz]

yeah does seem to. unless this doesnt count

[twin perch]

I use ||Instantgaming||

[pale hollow]

They are not official retailers, instead what often happens is someone steal a payment card, buys game keys, sells them on a laundering site, the card gets reported stolen and chargebacked

[twin perch]

G2A is the main culprit of this

some others just buy keys in Poland

while having euro income

[pale hollow]

Then the keys sometimes get disabled

[twin perch]

Mind you in like

8 years of IG I never had issues

nor my friends lmao

[pale hollow]

Cheapest way to get it from an official retailer right now is this, afaik https://www.gamebillet.com/helldivers-2-pre-purchase?

[dire igloo]

Wait i realized helldivers 2 keys will cost less now

[pale hollow]

GMG might be better if you have gold, not sure

[dire igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

Time to buy a key

Bless me with 25 dollar key pleaseee

Plz let me win

[vocal hornet]

Is that premium edition with gold plated armour cheaper yet

[twin perch]

https://etail.market/helldivers-2-194?tracking=itad

I'd have to investigate if this is

legit site

[pale hollow]

Smells grey, not sure though

[dire igloo]

Holy fuck

I can use a code on eneba and get a key for 23.70

I might have won

[dire igloo]

Code, one time coupon same thing

[plain bough]

Alrighty, see yall tomorrow when we probably get new MO

[pale hollow]

mmm, eTail might actually be legit

[pale hollow]

eneba seems to be a grey-market key reseller

[gaunt topaz]

back

didnt buy yet

so where hte fuck do i buy from

[pale hollow]

eTail or GameBillet for authorized resellers, not 100% on eTail but it seems legitimate from what I gather.

For the absolute cheapest price with no guarantee of the key's origin: any stolen key reseller

[gaunt topaz]

cdkeys is cheaper but the gamebillet one is an authorized reseller

[mystic pivot]

Are there key sites actually 100% legit? I always wandered about it

[gaunt topaz]

cdkeys link seems legit to me honestly https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/helldivers-2-pc-steam

[pale hollow]

I KNOW that these sites are legit: GreenManGaming, Humble, gamebillet, Fanatical, GOG, Gamersgate and IndieGala.

[twin perch]

[gaunt topaz]

im still considering

[pale hollow]

Let me put it like this: you are unlikely to get burned by using that site, I can't guarantee that the keys are not obtained illicitly however.
Ultimately I don't know much about that site.
I do however know that no one should ever use G2A or Kinguin

[gaunt topaz]

will i get scammed out of 29 euro or will it work.

[fiery rose]

The ones listed on AllKeyShop are all legit, while some can be a bit more fucky than the other though.

https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-helldivers-2-cd-key-compare-prices/

[pale hollow]

Oh, one thing about that site, try looking at the TrustPilot, check the people leaving 5 star ratings

[gaunt topaz]

i mean what does it matter if the keys are less than legal for me

holy essaying

[pale hollow]

That would be a matter of morals, and besides I am not certain that anything fishy is going on

[gaunt topaz]

who cares about morals? CHEAP STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[barren gust]

I’ve personally used CD keys for quite a few games and it has gone off without a hitch each time. It should work but technically their keys aren’t always Legal

[gaunt topaz]

what are those??

saving MONEYYYYYY

[mystic pivot]

Is there a specific reason for G2A and Kinguin? Scam?

[gaunt topaz]

anyway

fuck it

[barren gust]

For one they are awful for refunds if something goes wrong

[gaunt topaz]

im giving cdkeys a shot

[pale hollow]

They resell stolen keys, it has been confirmed multiple times

Money laundering

[mystic pivot]

Stolen keys? You mean like games obtained from Steam accounts hacking or something like that?

What about Instant Gaming? I often hear about it

[pale hollow]

Criminal steals payment info, buys a ton of keys, sells on/to G2A or Kinguin.
Person with stolen info does a chargeback, developer, publisher and steam now have to PAY compensation to the credit card companies and they don't make any money on the sale

[mystic pivot]

Oh ok, clear. Thanks

[barren gust]

I mean fittingly I got the Stalker trilogy from CDkeys for $1

And now I’m here

[vague marsh]

i woke up seeing review bombs were a success

chat is this true ?

[barren gust]

So far it seems so

[vague marsh]

[barren gust]

🤞

[pale hollow]

Not sure about that one, seems somewhat fishy but ehhh

[barren gust]

Unless Big Sony decides to kill their money maker again

[pale hollow]

Yep, time to flip those reviews blue!

[vague marsh]

[mystic pivot]

Democracy achieved, and it seems the dev team leader announced a new cape with a design similar to this lol

[vague marsh]

id wear it proudly

because i also put negative review

[mystic pivot]

Yeah that will look like "I was there and I saw all of that with my own eyes"

[vague marsh]

on steam

[pale hollow]

``Patchnotes: Rebalanced Super Credit drops to be 5 instead of 10 to ensure a sense of pride and accomplishment to accompany progression.`

[mystic pivot]

You stole my line

[vague marsh]

[mystic pivot]

[pale hollow]

Imagine how hard the reviews would 'dive'

[vague marsh]

i like to imagine

major orders were just a practice

and now review bombing is the real deal

to test the community

wouldnt be surprised tbh

poor mods

[barren gust]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[pale hollow]

Initially I was on the side of Sony, then the region lock shit became common knowledge and I flipped

[mystic pivot]

Next time Sony will annouce a new somehow popular update all the dev and community team will be like this

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-horror-bad-memories-apocalypse-blue-shirt-gif-16881542

[vague marsh]

now you will need a console to play the game

just removes the pc port

same

[pale hollow]

Subscribe to PS+ to access Helldivers online features (the entire game)

[vague marsh]

[barren gust]

Too many negative steam reviews, clearly the players do not want to play the game on PC

[pale hollow]

7th best

[vague marsh]

well its not a ps exclusive game for the first time

[mystic pivot]

I was never a console gamer because my gaming career started at 12 watching my uncle playing Morrowind

[vague marsh]

instead of ps games being ported to pc

[pale hollow]

nvm, this might have been overall sales, not just pc

[barren gust]

If it’s overall then that shits impressive

[vague marsh]

pc only here

[pale hollow]

Helldivers 2 went fucking viral, a game went viral

Not Helldivers content, the actual game

[barren gust]

Yeah, I’d seen the charts and everything, but knowing that it’s their 7th best seller for such a huge publisher is still crazy.

[mystic pivot]

Ooooh yeah, "candy bars". I see

[vague marsh]

so viral that it lit up a whole ass community in a day or 2

very