are they legit just called the same thing but one has counter sniper tacked on the end?
#🤖🐛🦑helldivers
brazen estuary
brazen estuary
meh
loud bison
earnest stag
Locking Strategem behind Warbond
Will probably happen with Vehicles 
brazen estuary
I think vehicles will prob be useless in canyon map
you lack imagination
brazen estuary
also the fuck you mean useless in a canyon map
slim coral
Map where you have to move between mountain walls and walls
And theres like no open space so whats the point of launching warthog in it
brazen estuary
I dont see that ever being a thing
bleak patrol
And theres like no open space so whats the point of launching warthog in it
I dunno, maybe moving faster than on foot?
Dude never drove a car in their life
brazen estuary
we already have largely empty maps
earnest stag
City maps
earnest stag
We will get some when we get to more populated worlds
So far they all were farming or mining worlds
fast spindle
So far they all were farming or mining worlds
the mech construction world
literally zero industry present
earnest stag
>the mech construction world
Was also a mining world near Cyberstan iirc 
earnest stag
If the Cyborgs repurpose it i hope so too
I mean its their homeworld and SE made a mining Planet out if it
brazen estuary
level 20 Cadet
saw a guy at like lvl 90 with that lol
soft patio
I use cadet tag at mid level 60
when people comment on it I just say I got held back
earnest stag
Reported
twin perch
@eager cliff send that man to liberty camp
eager cliff
OI
raw folio
Me seeing the last mission in the operation my friend wants to do is the evacuate essential personnel
earnest stag
Me seeing the last mission in the operation my friend wants to do is the evacuat...
Thats the new Tower defense like one?
Cause they labled it similar to the other evac one so ive heard
loud bison
mortar simulator
eager cliff
eager cliff
Me seeing the last mission in the operation my friend wants to do is the evacuat...
so bad at anything higher than 7
its impossible
the ships spawn too close they litearlly spawnkil the players and the civvies
bad design
heavy heart
I dunno, the boltie is kinda nuts.
Slugger is kinda funny, they nerfed it at being anything other than a budget sniper rifle
fast spindle
devs fear of "sniper weapons" is real
devs fear stuff becoming sniper weapons, then dont buff the actual sniper weapons
twin perch
Which is really funny cause
We have the whole fucking bug faction
counter to slow rof sniper guns
fast spindle
real
twin perch
Like yes, Slugger kills hive guards in 3 shots
You also then die horribly to getting mauled by 50 hunters
Same issue w the Breaker nerf lol
or Railgun
Weapons that are excellent to deal w 1 annoyingly spammy enemy
fast spindle
or any gun that isn't AOE or high rpm
twin perch
but struggle on chongers
fast spindle
bugs are just cbt with anything that isnt an AR or an autoshotgun
twin perch
Same issue w the Breaker nerf lol
Breaker was "strong" but devs forget each brood commander is a full auto mag lol
or that spewers exist
Anything w small mags and long reloads also gets you killed bu funny hunter spam
DMR's should be stronger and they would have their place as "pick off elite thingies" kinda weapon
But they're afraid of creeping AMR too lol
heavy heart
Yeah, if you bring any of the DMRs or a slugger vs bugs, you're a muppet.
twin perch
While AMR is incredibly niche and outshone by autocanon or railgun in it's role, and it doesn't have the damage to deal with armored heatsink enemies, or you lose a stratagem slot for a backpack
Also railgun has a third person sight, and so does autocanon lol
Which kinda kills the AMR niche
twin perch
Yes, but 7 shots per mag vs 10 w less recoil
Less damage, no factory popping
no 3 shotting tanks or turrets
etc
heavy heart
It's a valid choice if you want to run a backpack.
twin perch
if i want to run a backpack vs bots I would bring a Quasar which is basically a better AMR
inf ammo, bad on pressure sitautions (like the AMR)
kills heavies in 1 to 2 taps
heavy heart
Except the quasar is nothing like an AMR
Quasar's a RR but better.
I don't use the AMR because tbh, backpacks generally suck.
only one I use is the ballistic shield backpack.
twin perch
Quasar is a AMR Sidegrade
Corerction
a RR Sidegrade
Intended for more solo fuckery w drawbacks
While the RR is strong solo and shines w a duo
heavy heart
since quasar dropped, I haven't seen many RRs about
I've been trying to make the spear work but it's just... every time you think it's actually okay it starts refusing to lock onto things.
I do think the AMR should get a better ammo reserve.
but I wonder if they haven't done that because then you could just run it as a primary.
fast spindle
Breaker was "strong" but devs forget each brood commander is a full auto mag lol
i think these enemies are like
autocannon worthy
i wish they'd add a booster for weapon swap speed or something
to incentivize swapping weapons mid fight instead of just spamming ur primary at everything you can until there's only armored guys left
twin perch
i think these enemies are like
Brood, Guards and Spewers are Autocanon/Rail worthy
ALso Railcanon nerf when it only has 20 shots, could have just nerfed ammo count
vocal hornet
Quasar as a RR upgrade? You guys smoking some shit?
tranquil zealot
the quasar is good no question asked ... but the charge time and wait time inbetween shots is something you have to adapt to ... these things are different witht the rr and the eat
vocal hornet
With RR and a pal you can wipe a whole dropship brigade
fast spindle
~~ALso Railcanon nerf when it only has 20 shots, could have just nerfed ammo cou...
real
railgun was very mid even before nerf
it was good for broodmothers and big guys
that was it
tranquil zealot
With RR and a pal you can wipe a whole dropship brigade
which can be be good and bad ... because whats the point if the dropsships dont kill the stuff they dropped
fast spindle
railguns only good aspect was the fact you could loot half ur mag from a single random ammo box
not even resupply boxes, just the random ground loot ones
vocal hornet
which can be be good and bad ... because whats the point if the dropsships dont ...
You need to shoot them before they drop the units
tranquil zealot
You need to shoot them before they drop the units
even with the eat its not that easy
vocal hornet
Its really easy
There’s a few seconds after it arrives where it just stays static in the air before dropping units
The problem is when you kill a few the smoke can obscure like 1 or 2 more incoming ships
tranquil zealot
There’s a few seconds after it arrives where it just stays static in the air bef...
i swear i shot down some of them before dropping and never had them kill their cargo - very rarely that they drop ontop and kill something
twin perch
Quasar as a RR upgrade? You guys smoking some shit?
Sidegrade
vocal hornet
i swear i shot down some of them before dropping and never had them kill their c...
Weird, bug maybe?
I did it yesterday and it worked fine
Only time some survived that i can tell is when i was too late on one shot
heavy heart
Yeah, dropships killing the content is a little erratic.
I've generally shifted to shooting the cargo bay and just killing them when they're all bunched up in there.
Boltie is beaut for that, one shot and all normal bots and scout striders are gone.
plain bough
I am not unconvinced that the randos I joined were bots lol, 10 minutes into the match I joined in to see em trying to activate the ICBM launch site with none of the objectives completed to do so
Also found out how to fast reload the Eruptor to fire a bit more rapidly, switch to your sidearm and back to primary after you shoot to fast fire it
brazen estuary
everyone's favorite planet is back open for business 
twin perch
Man, beat a bots 9
but getting the samples oujt is a pain
always getting shot from all sides sucks
eager cliff
everyone's favorite planet is back open for business <:kek:1206172080169820190>
the bots can have that one
as if the defense missions were aids enough
on hellmire with the fire tornaodes is literally no
pale hollow
plain bough
photosynthesis lol
pale hollow
photosynthesis lol
yeah, I fucking snorted on the train when I read that 
plain bough
pale hollow
Ever had a bush deflect your rifle bullets?
Plumbumsynthesis
twin perch
They're going to pull a Germany
plain bough
WW1 or WW2 germany
twin perch
WW2
plain bough
We better get some funky stuff to use then
plain bough
tesla grenade
twin perch
the arc shotgun is not a tesla canon
You fucking moron
it's not a fucking constant stream of lightning
plain bough
adjudicator buff? impossible
twin perch
50 guys are on crack
heavy heart
I think the base diligence is fine, the CS needs a fucking point tho
heavy heart
Oh joy
making it better if you're a shit shot.
I think the only thing that helps on is hive guards.
light nymph
I think the only thing that helps on is hive guards.
I still think it's gonna have more of a point vs the Illuminate
HD1 had Illuminate snipers
heavy heart
I think it just needs pushing up the damage so it can one tap devs.
then you trade like, half your ammo and all the QOL of the base diligence for needing half as many bullets against many enemies.
light nymph
I think it just needs pushing up the damage so it can one tap devs.
Again, Med pen, if I recall correctly, can pen shields that all Illuminate have.
plain bough
Wonder if the Illiuminate is gonna be like the rest of the factions and zerg us or just be specialized assholes that'll oneshot us in the head with minimal numbers
light nymph
Wonder if the Illiuminate is gonna be like the rest of the factions and zerg us ...
have you played HD1?
plain bough
no
light nymph
no
Then be wary of explosive weapons and vehicles
The shield walls the Illuminate used to spam...
plain bough
explode em harder
light nymph
explode em harder
shield walls were invulnerable but temporary
I used to run the Explosive rocket rifle. The bullets acted like the new bolt action sniper
high AOE
and insta gib you
Illuminates used to LITTERALY SPAM SHIELD WALLS OVER THE ENTIRE SCREEN so you can't move
plain bough
nasty
light nymph
their units CAN move though 'em
heavy heart
Again, Med pen, if I recall correctly, can pen shields that all Illuminate have.
Yeah nah. I don't think a gun should have only one viable use. Especially as that'd render pretty near every other weapon irrelevant.
light nymph
so many times you get trapped in like a mini triangle of shields with meele units swarming you
heavy heart
I don't think we'll be seeing that in 3d.
plain bough
Drop us a bone AH and give us that weapon customization already
plain bough
let me add every recoil compensating attachment to my gun
light nymph
Yeah nah. I don't think a gun should have only one viable use. Especially as tha...
I mean... Med pen is good vs some higher armored units and would be good vs shields if they work like I expect them to.
The devs are CLEARLY wanting to have a system where specific loadouts are good vs specific enemies
they don't want you to run the same build vs every enemy
and I think that's a good system
heavy heart
Indeed, and I don't think they should
but
I think guns should be good against 2/3 enemies.
I do not expect marksmen rifles to ever be a good choice vs bugs.
light nymph
I think guns should be good against 2/3 enemies.
they kind of are tbh... They are not GREAT vs everything, but they are good
vocal hornet
hear me out
why are the scopes so awful
like actually
they make you shoot worse
heavy heart
The CS is just bad vs everything.
light nymph
The game does insentivise you to go up close and personal to brawl, yes. But that's more of a game design problem not a gun design
heavy heart
And because scopes are bad.
light nymph
why are the scopes so awful
they are litteraly not
already had this discussion with Sean
vocal hornet
they are litteraly not
light nymph
everything works as intended to me, because I expect them to work like actual guns where sight over bore exsists
light nymph
where you aren't shooting from your scope but from your barrel
heavy heart
It's nothing to do with the sight over bore
light nymph
As in the graphic on the scope
eh, some of 'em are a bit over detailed, but they seem fine to me
heavy heart
It's to do with poor crosshairs, poor performance in terms of sighting,
heavy heart
Like, I'd rather a fucking susat than most of this shit.
light nymph
you may need to give me a specific example of one @vocal hornet
heavy heart
and susat are bad.
vocal hornet
you may need to give me a specific example of one <@371183064371560459>
penetrator and scythe probably have the worst ones i have seen so far
light nymph
It's to do with poor crosshairs, poor performance in terms of sighting,
what do you mean by "poor performance in terms of sighting"?
vocal hornet
They are so bad that they actually obstruct things you are trying to shoot at
light nymph
penetrator and scythe probably have the worst ones i have seen so far
fine I'll turn on the game to look at the sight since I don't know every sight by heart...
heavy heart
poor align speed,
Poor magnification, poor out of scope awareness.
It's like every scope is a shit acog.
vocal hornet
btw if you up the magnification it makes turning the gun slower
in and out of scope
heavy heart
I'd rather rip the lot off and just live with the passable red dots that some stuff get.
light nymph
poor align speed,
bro... those high zoom scopes are a bitch to align fast because how scopes work
heavy heart
bro... those high zoom scopes are a bitch to align fast because how scopes work
As someone who's used high zoom scopes
We ain't using high zoom scopes.
we're using fucking 2-4xs
and like fuck are they a bitch to align with current ones, let alone with future ones.
light nymph
As someone who's used high zoom scopes
I mean, I got a 12x on my airsoft one for scouting and I tell ya, we kind of are. And they kind of are a bitch to align when under pressure
heavy heart
I've got a 16x on my airsoft too, it's not.
Just get a good one and set your kit up right.
plain bough
Idk man, getting shot at by a bunch of bots might impede your alignment lol
light nymph
heavy heart
but we're not using 16x
we're using assault scope styled 2-4s,
which are made to be quick and easy to align so it's easy under pressure.
plain bough
also we don't know how much exactly weapons and armor weigh to be properly scoped in
light nymph
penetrator and scythe probably have the worst ones i have seen so far
Yea that's the one I mean by "over detail"
but it's not bad
the sight picture is clean
light nymph
I mean... I do... A lot..
light nymph
with this scope?
I'm gonna do it right now, but this is almost the same as the AMR
heavy heart
The fact that a bunch of the sights are misaligned is also annoying.
light nymph
The fact that a bunch of the sights are misaligned is also annoying.
but they aren't, they are just zeeroed different xD
light nymph
The one you had to check?
just did, what's the issue?>
heavy heart
That's not zeroing if it's off to the side slightly.
It's windage being set wrong if it was a real scope, or it not beign aligned
vocal hornet
just did, what's the issue?>
I'm saying clearly you dont shoot with this scoped in all the time otherwise you wouldnt even have had to check the scope
light nymph
That's not zeroing if it's off to the side slightly.
oh yea that... Sean thas the same issue. My shots are appearently dead on
dunno what up with that
best guess is the FOV or resolution
heavy heart
¯_(ツ)_/¯
light nymph
Either way, it's a bug they need to fix.
weird. I wonder what it is, because I had this excat discussion with Sean and on my end all is well
heavy heart
But there's a reason on a lot of guns the only times I use the scope is if it's like the auto where it can be hard to judge when it's pointing the right direction sometimes.
it's generally easier to aim precisely with the 3rd person crosshair rip.
Either way, the CS, scythe, slugger, liberator concussive and base liberator are all primaries I hope get tweaked to be a bit more meaningful.
Sickle is one I expect to get nerfed, and base handgun could use a point.
Also: Functional and well designed sight. Honest.
brazen estuary
i hate that sight
heavy heart
I think it's got to be up there for the worst sights in the game.
obsidian flame
I hate it when ppl think the "sci-fi" setting is an excuse to make awful shit
shy schooner
The "Sci-fi" setting???
They really out here thinking that when in reality we are the disposible troops with barely working equipment
twin perch
plain bough
nice hive lord skull
obsidian flame
They really out here thinking that when in reality we are the disposible troops ...
counterpoint: the initial guns are fine and their sights are fine
twin perch
pale hollow
I already explained that
https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1212788...
Yes, but your hypothesis is lame while photosynthesis is funny. 
plain bough
bad bot
twin perch
Someone kill this man
late dagger
@eager cliff kill kill kill
eager cliff
twin perch
"Wife why are you trying to kill yourself" - Pelican 1
late dagger
oh eagle 1, our forbidden love must be kept secret
slim coral
Imagine there is an event where you cant use Strategem
And you have to liberate a planet without it
obsidian flame
"imagine they make the game worse and disable one of its core gameplay mechanics"
brazen estuary
"imagine they make the game worse and disable one of its core gameplay mechanics...
not one of
the single thing that lets you play the videogame
vocal hornet
Man how do you get so many common samples, its harder to find than rare
Especially on helldive
twin perch
Outposts and Objs have 0 to 7
On bugs, Mushrooms, Stalkers, etc, have like a bunch in the "nest inside" and a bunch in the wall outside
pale hollow
twin perch
slim coral
Whats the point of HE nade if Impact deals the same damage
twin perch
Whats the point of HE nade if Impact deals the same damage
which HE Nade
the 400 dmg 3s cook one?
Apart from bot factories, p sure it's sharpnel
But Impact is better at "Killing" things
Btw Crossbow is kinda fun
Shame it has low "demolition" so it can't pop nests or factories, but it's a 5x12 GL
twin perch
it can 3 shot chargers in the ass from my experience lol
it can 2-3 tap brood commanders and spewers
it will rinse anything fodder tier
if it's not a mid armor unit, the splash annihilates it
obsidian flame
Whats the point of HE nade if Impact deals the same damage
when you don't want it to explode immediately
slim coral
when you don't want it to explode immediately <:kek:1206172080169820190>
But u always want it to explode immediately
If not then how can you friendly fire now
twin perch
And I guess the new sniper rifle is just a primary AMT
Yes but it cant deal w hulks or armor
But can detonate factories
While AMR cant
vocal hornet
I might make that new sniper my new primary as a scunt
twin perch
Unless you're using a Stalwart you will regret it
the bolt action can and will get you killed at 7+
vocal hornet
You’re a scunt
twin perch
1 guys ees you
vocal hornet
They cant see you
twin perch
entire squad alarted
plain bough
unlocked the GL pistol, pretty good, fast reload
twin perch
unlocked the GL pistol, pretty good, fast reload
Heard main issue is ammo
1 nade per box, 2 per supply
pale hollow
I love mixing the new explosive sniper with the AMR, light armour and a jetpack.
Ultimate snipey. stun nades for fat boys
plain bough
1 nade per box, 2 per supply
yeah about right
but 8 grenades is already alot + 4-6 on your body
vocal hornet
Thermite has been very ass
pale hollow
Thermite has been very ass
The Damage over Time bug is really not helping
twin perch
it can pop factories but it's very finnicky about going into the hole
it's great if you want to like
frontally kill a tank
vocal hornet
My main complaint is it doesnt kill a tank even if you throw it on the tanks ass
plain bough
Impact still remains the king of nades
pale hollow
You can even kill a tank from the front with impact nades
Just hit either the top or sides of the turret twice
twin perch
Yup, as long as it doesn't hit front plates it's kill
super easy if you have slight height over it
Shredder is easier to kill too somehow
pale hollow
Can't really kill them from below though
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slim coral
Wish they added airburst GL
I can set distance and the grenade blow up when reaching said distance
balmy spire
So it becomes susus amogus
genius idea
twin perch
Mods, kill that Cup
pale hollow
Add an imposter bot that looks like helldiver
pale hollow
you are the space facist
no no, I fight for democracy, liberty and freedom.
The bugs and bots are fascist and socialists.
someone call a democracy officer please
obsidian flame
Add an imposter bot that looks like helldiver
sus
obsidian flame
brazen estuary
intresting
obsidian flame
an automaton pet
pale hollow
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obsidian flame
yay more friendly fire incidents
brazen estuary
I will drop resuply beacon on his head
latent zodiac
wish we could get a rover backpack whose entire purpose is to push the other button on the bunkers
obsidian flame
that WOULD actually be cool.
Maybe if it could also do the inputs on computers during missions
latent zodiac
Maybe if it could also do the inputs on computers during missions
that would make it infinitely usefull
because there are times where you need to do laps and run away from the objective so you can loop back around and do the terminal without 500 enemies on your ass
pale hollow
Maybe if it could also do the inputs on computers during missions
Should have a 50% chance to fail and need to very slowly retry the input.
obsidian flame
Should have a 50% chance to fail and need to very slowly retry the input.
should be slow, yeah
pale hollow
I can just imagine running in circles screaming for my life as the lil' helper rover keeps failing, causing the little error sound.
obsidian flame
I think it should be failproof. Game's already heavy enough on the RNG
just make it slow.
pale hollow
but funny
slim coral
Add weapon jam on sandstorm planet
plain bough
We taking the MO planets real slow
eager cliff
i'd say weekend just started so now we might see a surge
PROBLEM IS
DEFENCE MISSIONS DO NOT HELP AT ALL
people just skip them and dont finish major orders for a massive boost
plain bough
evac missions is every helldivers bane
rough sluice
Defense missions push back the invading force
eager cliff
Defense missions push back the invading force
no, i meant, the community hates those missions and they will simply do 2/3 and leave lol
they wont do the last mission for the operation
heavy heart
thankfully, we're on liberation campaigns rn
although the new defence missions are good,
pale hollow
the grind is real
I treat those last upgrades as the 'reason' to look for samples, but don't actively grind for them as that would be too draining.
plain bough
less gameplay effect, more ship drip
pale hollow
I'm going for the 15% accuracy on HE barrages first, as I suspect that could bring the 380mm to absolute peak.
plain bough
70 meter radius which brings it to a radius of 59.5 meters
obsidian flame
the grind is real
heavy heart
the 380 with that upgrade has felt pretty nice.
still struggle to justify it over the faster problem solvers, but it damn well solves bases
obsidian flame
no, i meant, the community hates those missions and they will simply do 2/3 and ...
unfortunately no amount of game tweaking is gonna fix players' stupidity
heavy heart
to be fair, the civvie evactuations are ass.
The way to do them is exploit the AI being dumb.
heavy heart
Should be a little less "If you do it this one way the enemies don't go near the evac zone so you can do it" and a little more "you defend the evac zone."
slim coral
SWEET LIBERTY
slim coral
The way to do them is exploit the AI being dumb.
If they dont contribute to the fight
They arent deserved to live
By democracy for democracy
heavy heart
what?
obsidian flame
don't mind cuppy
obsidian flame
I think he means the Eruptor
bitter elk
Adjudicator kicks hard to be honest
Too hard even
But maybe I just gotta get better at using it
heavy heart
Nah, it kicks too hard.
It kicks hard enough that full auto is basically useless,
and if you're semi autoing the Diligence is just better.
it's just in a weird point of I don't think there's anything wrong with it, just it doesn't meet any thresholds for damage to make it worth over other automatics.
maybe if they cut it's recoil, but locked it to burst. so it's a bit more controlable but not a flat upgrade to the lib.
slim coral
Is the combustion module worth getting
I want to unlock that since I main flamer so anyone had experience w it
tawny herald
plucky steppe
Is the combustion module worth getting
So far the buffs from previous patches have been to buff the flamer or fire tick damage by 50%. The module buffs by 75%. Seems like a giant leap up but I haven’t gotten it yet, pretty low on my priority list for upgrades. If you main flamer it will probably be a game changer
slim coral
what should I do
plucky steppe
Call them a commie bot and declare democracy needs their resources and watch as 10,000 helldivers pop into system and rain 380s and 500kgs onto their location
raw folio
Much like the bug corpses, you recycled
twin perch
i hate you Kosm
fast spindle
twin perch
DEFENCE MISSIONS DO NOT HELP AT ALL
Well, and devs still refuseto adjust them to something more tolerable lol
The fact the best strat is still the run around outside
I would do 3 defend assets in a row on 9 before I do a civ evac on 5
eager cliff
unfortunately no amount of game tweaking is gonna fix players' stupidity
imo they should rework it to be like the new defense mission we have now with the walls and gates and shit
twin perch
imo they should rework it to be like the new defense mission we have now with th...
That would be so much more tolerable lol
Bugs have it too I've heard
raw folio
Bugs are a lot more manageable for the civvie evac imo
twin perch
Bugs are a lot more manageable for the civvie evac imo
Well bugs mid armor enemies are tolerable
unlike devas
plain bough
devastators go spammy spam spam
slim coral
The fact that if you touched fire less than 0.1 ms
You instantly fold now is just hilarious
This makes fire tornado a huge pain in the ass to deal with
And Hulk flamer literally insta kill you
twin perch
Yeah and we have shitty visibility planet to play only
I hate
4 devas aimbotted their rockets while I dived off a cliff
bots btw
twin perch
Has anyone found the rank badges for HD2?
twin perch
dumb thought, if we ever had a earth defense MO, do you think they'll give us plenty of scavanged gear or super weapons?
brazen estuary
no
twin perch
obsidian flame
I still think those ranks make no sense
earnest stag
They demote you so you can climb the ranks again
light nymph
I still think those ranks make no sense <:kek:1206172080169820190>
only the most elite of helldivers get promoted to regular military, remember that the starting rank is cadet, not even a private
obsidian flame
it'd be cool if the final rank was Citizen instead
twin perch
I still think those ranks make no sense <:kek:1206172080169820190>
I'm pretty sure that's the joke
twin perch
the joke is we're lower than the most basic actuall military unit
You're actually a citizen XD
Just a bsic one lol
light nymph
to become a full-fledged citizen
stray seal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335438088816033794/1228665777746481305/IM...
It’s a starship troopers joke
obsidian flame
twin perch
when a random joins and the mission takes 5 mins to load
plain bough
3 T4 modules down, another 3 to go
twin perch
the moment I hit 70 super samples
I'm done with 7
I am omega done with devastators until they do a fucking balance pass
plain bough
more regular devastators, less bullshito rocketpods and minigunners
twin perch
Please
Make them not be HP bloats
Even w the buffed dominator
they take so many shots
I'm also usnure why they want eradications to be this cbt torture
4 tanks
I see 2 hulks more dropping
rocket devas ragdoll you, ready to fire by the time you get up
twin perch
I just realized how ready for modding guns look
grip, mag, sight, threaded barrel, side strappies
Stock also seems fuckable with
plain bough
vocal hornet
Please
Cant aim
Or use an autocannon
Even the
Literal
Liberator
Can easily kill a devastator
twin perch
Brother
Shut the fuck up
I know
And you don't always fight these cunts at sniping ranges
obsidian flame
and it's not like there's half a million other things killing you at the same time
if every time a devastator pops up you could just stop, line up a shot and snipe it
game'd be too easy
twin perch
if every time a devastator pops up you could just stop, line up a shot and snipe...
Me seeing 24 rockets fly my way while 4 heavy devastators keep me pinned
and the rockets are aimbotted, the heavy devastators keep firing with perfect accu at 50m
brazen estuary
dropped on top of obj
brazen estuary
and the rockets are aimbotted, the heavy devastators keep firing with perfect ac...
thye def made some software upgrades to the bots
brazen estuary
rocket devas ragdoll you, ready to fire by the time you get up
ragdolling needs to be turned the fuck down
its the single worst thing about the game
obsidian flame
but it's funny
brazen estuary
its stupid and frustration
nothing in the game other than it makes me want to altf4
vocal hornet
chat seething with cope and skill issues
brazen estuary
chat seething with cope and skill issues
vocal hornet
twin perch
but it's _funny_ <:kek:1206172080169820190>
Would be funny if they werent ready for a redo for when you get up
XD
brazen estuary
why do all the helmets suck so bad
plain bough
you want more visually appealing helmets?
plain bough
I like this, not released yet
brazen estuary
looks okay
twin perch
The issue w helmets is not matching armor in subtle ways
they should recolor to armor
friend is experiencing hell
brazen estuary
balanced
twin perch
That's 3 towers in 1 spot
pale hollow
The best is when you drop near 3 gunship factories, good fun.
Also, got to love how they prioritise targeting the Hellbombs, making it nigh impossible.
plain bough
always a convenient patrol nearby to help distract you from killing gunships too
twin perch
always a convenient patrol nearby to help distract you from killing gunships too
Bot patrols suck so fucking much
plain bough
just walk around a corner and be greeted by daddy hulk and his 3 devastator minigunners
pale hollow
I have tried brining a shield generator for safeguarding the Hellbomb during the 10 second detonation time, fucking shield just gets torn to shreds by the gunships
They also bork the orbital laser targeting, forcing it to hit nothing ever
plain bough
shields are a waste of a slot at higher difficulties, all those extra shots could be dealt with immediate bombardment of the area
till you get hit in the face and drop the beacon and blow your team up tho
pale hollow
shields are a waste of a slot at higher difficulties, all those extra shots coul...
Unfortunately bombs don't destroy gunships and save my Hellbomb 
plain bough
we need more sam site objectives fr
brazen estuary
pale hollow
I would also love a weaker version of the rocket pods that target flying enemies first
plain bough
hopefully by next week we get some new strategems for bots
brazen estuary
hopefully by next week we get some new strategems for bots
nah
brazen estuary
Im a big fan of how shit this game is 
plain bough
for that oil
twin perch
I am getting pretty fucking salty
goign for super samples today
It's just bs after BS
brazen estuary
why do you think 85% of my missions are haz 5 and below
at the 7 and above is just ass gameplay
its there for try hards and meta divers
I dove and toched the side of rock so I must take a nap now
bleak prairie
for that oil
cant we just squeeze them with hugs and get the oil?
twin perch
Solo 8 clear
Fuck that
done with Supers
aight back to 5
Please introduce an alternative way of earning super samples, or spawn 1 at lvl 5-6
brazen estuary
It's just bs after BS
twin perch
<:kek:1206172080169820190>
Yup that's what my 7 looks like but with more titans sprinkled in lol
Joel be like "no go do MO, boost bugs by 300%"
brazen estuary
done with Supers
lucky you I still need 4 more
brazen estuary
Yup that's what my 7 looks like but with more titans sprinkled in lol
I was at a objective in a different mission and it had 4 bile titans on it
bleak patrol
Meanwhile, me on bugs 7
...where bug?
twin perch
Nice
bleak patrol
is the las-98 support weapon worth anything
The piss laser?
It's a meme weapon imo
bleak patrol
I'm sure there is a use for it, I just get a severe allergic reaction when I touch it
twin perch
It's like
support support gun
and it will not work above 5
because it doesn't not work while being pressured
balmy spire
because it doesn't not work while being pressured
then nevermind
bleak patrol
Don't care until I try it myself
twin perch
hulks run at you and burn you while you try to melt their eye
balmy spire
what about the anti mat
brazen estuary
what about the anti mat
good
twin perch
good luck 
brazen estuary
railgun was nerfed into the ground
bleak patrol
railgun was nerfed into the ground
Railgun is fine, wdym
brazen estuary
the autocanno is good if you dont want precision, at rife is good for the same stuff and is more precise
balmy spire
1. It's an energy weapon
2. Spear exists and is a better meme weapon
how is the flammenwerfer
bleak patrol
Flammenwerfer on bugs is just 
balmy spire
for diff 7-8?
bleak patrol
It kills everything except Titans
balmy spire
It kills everything except Titans
does it synergise well with the napalm strike?
like bonus or something
brazen estuary
does it synergise well with the napalm strike?
napalm is ass
bleak patrol
Napalm is nice
balmy spire
mixed messages
bleak patrol
But I wouldn't take too much fire
twin perch
I kinda wish we get some sort of metaprogression, like weapon profiency or just bonuses to our divers
brazen estuary
dot is either nonfunctional or still does no damage
bleak patrol
Either take Flamethrower or Napalm
bleak patrol
dot is either nonfunctional or still does no damage
Damn, I wish I had my 40+ fire kill combo replays
twin perch
I'm sure an enemy balance pass will change my opinion
balmy spire
and is running the orbital lazer and 500kg bomb with the exosuit a good endgame strategem loadout?
twin perch
But rn cbt
bleak patrol
I kinda wish we get some sort of metaprogression, like weapon profiency or just ...
I wouldn't mind that at all
I'd slap everything into my flamethrower 
bleak patrol
and is running the orbital lazer and 500kg bomb with the exosuit a good endgame ...
500kg barely does anything
Sure, it can kill a titan
balmy spire
500kg barely does anything
thats a hot take
brazen estuary
Damn, I wish I had my 40+ fire kill combo replays
I got a 30k with one impact nade
bleak patrol
But the blast radius is ass
twin perch
I'd slap everything into my flamethrower <:kek2:944014970901897297>
Imagine you get weapon handling/something bonuses for just
balmy spire
But the blast radius is ass
i should use the orb lazer then?
twin perch
killing a lot of things w a gun
obsidian flame
~~Please introduce an alternative way of earning super samples, or spawn 1 at lv...
negative on that
BUT
bleak patrol
Orb Laser is fine, but it has limited uses
obsidian flame
it'd be cool if Personal Orders sometimes gave 'em
twin perch
I wouldn't mind spending 25k to 50k req on a single suepr sample
twin perch
so I have to stop tryharding 7+
AH give me metaprogression
or some fucking level of power fantasy not power smack my cock with a rock
bleak patrol
whats the best for destroying buildings
Airstrike, 500kg, Rocket Strike, Precision Strike, Railcannon, Orb Laser, Autocannon, Quasar
balmy spire
Airstrike, 500kg, Rocket Strike, Precision Strike, Railcannon, Orb Laser, Autoca...
so all of them basically
brazen estuary
quasar is OP
balmy spire
i think they leaked a nuke strategem to be coming in the future
bleak patrol
Quasar is mid
balmy spire
quasar is OP
does it destroy a fabricator from any side?
bleak patrol
I mean, sure, it's basically an infinite RR
brazen estuary
vents
bleak patrol
But it's not as multipurpose as I thought it would be
balmy spire
eager cliff
Devastator spam
me
bleak patrol
The new Bolt Action Rocket Gun also destroys fabricators
twin perch
But it's not as multipurpose as I thought it would be
Mood, surprisingly limited for what it does
Does not work well under pressure XD
twin perch
Will not save your ass from the random hulk patrol with 6 devas
but it will let you engage things on your terms
Maybe patrols are the issue rn
bleak patrol
Recently I found myself using Spear a lot
(When I'm not playing Solo)
I will just climb on the nearest hill and lock-on onto a random outpost / turret
brazen estuary
I think spear needs a damage buff
bleak patrol
It would be nice if it could 1 shot tanks
Or Hulks
But other than that, it's a good support support weapon
If it decides to work
brazen estuary
ive never had it work on a hulk
bleak patrol
I never had it reliably work when I needed a rocket asap
Anyone knows if the new Bolt Action can damage / kill Hulks?
eager cliff
BRO WHAT THE FUCK CANCER PLANET IS THE FIRE ONE
so many debuffs fuck that imma let the community liberate it
ill see you on the frozen one
bleak patrol
Frozen planets are
brazen estuary
Frozen planets are <:chefskiss:1016159686376034354>
I love being slowed by snow
its like hunters
but all the time
bleak patrol
I love snow
brazen estuary
I love snow
me too in real life
brazen estuary
thats a hot take
not really
brazen estuary
BRO WHAT THE FUCK CANCER PLANET IS THE FIRE ONE
real
i have a headache
no more video game for me
twin perch
Anyone knows if the new Bolt Action can damage / kill Hulks?
Back only
bleak patrol
So no eye?
bleak patrol
(slams phone into the ground)
twin perch
You can't also splash it's back with any trickshot
bleak patrol
Well, it is a primary
So I didn't expect it to be an all-in-one weapon anyway
I'm pretty sure I recently got a normal hitmarker when I hit a Hulk's eye with a medium pen weapon
It was either the XM8 Adjudicator or Counter Sniper
twin perch
I had a white hit with the dominator
balmy spire
BRO WHAT THE FUCK CANCER PLANET IS THE FIRE ONE
suh suh suh ski ski skill is is issue
exuse my lisp
twin perch
Oh yeah stealth nerf hasn't helped either
with how enemies just see y ou from farther away
so you can't squeak through o utposts anymore
bleak patrol
I'd rather say that they don't "see" you but "hear" you
I've noticed recently that they tend to get interested in my position if I run past them even if not in direct LoS
I just explained it by my ass wearing Heavy tho
I'd imagine my Heavy Armor wearing dude would be louder
twin perch
They hear? spriting at like 20m
and will basically run to the noise to investigate
and then they see you from far away
and alert everyone
and then you ping off a shot and it lands close a patrol behind them
or a random shot hits a patrol behind you
bleak patrol
From my experience they still see me from 50m
But they also hear me running from 50m
If I don't run, they don't hear me
And I can sneak past
obsidian flame
bleak patrol
This doesn't really bother me, because I usually only try to sneak past patrols that are not directly on my path
Otherwise I just murder
plain bough
My will wanes as I play through the bots
I need a cup of liber-tea for this
also my desire to use eruptor has diminished, as much as its fun to have a primary that takes out groups of enemies, having to come back next to a fight with a slow firing weapon doesn't help out much
slim coral
twin perch
also my desire to use eruptor has diminished, as much as its fun to have a prima...
Yeah a lot of weapons are like
"Really good for X/Devas"
but then it's like
Group/single enemies of baby bots
and they can kinda hold you by the balls
Kinda why I keep going back to the AR and DMR basic
heavy heart
Eruptor and redeemer works well as a combo
plain bough
I love my GL pistol more now
slim coral
How good is it
plain bough
but DMR and Sniper category should get a buff in terms of damage for their usage, you're trading less rounds for higher damage and recoil, it punishes you more than just spamming ARs hitting weak spots with just a little bit less damage, more ammo and vastly lower recoil
slim coral
So it shoots so fast that 3 rounds hit in 1 area
plain bough
Adjudicator itself is a bit weird, it's basically a heavy AR
bleak patrol
also my desire to use eruptor has diminished, as much as its fun to have a prima...
Consider your loadouts better then
Eruptor is that one weapon where you may want to bring in a Stalwart, Machine Gun or even the HMG and use it as your primary instead
I personally don't mind the slow fire rate, but after the first time I used this weapon, when I also took a Senator and a Railgun with me, I came to a conclusion that this is the weapon that you want to pair with a MG
The Railgun was almost completely unused by me, because what I could kill with the Railgun I could also kill with the Eruptor
I still don't understand the desire of some people to have a true all-in-one weapon
We have 3 weapon slots for a reason
obsidian flame
I still don't understand the desire of some people to have a true all-in-one wea...
requires less brainpower
plain bough
Still using railgun, easy hulk kills with it even now
bleak patrol
I bet that people that still say that Railgun is bad just can't use the Unsafe mode for whatever reason
obsidian flame
yeah
it just doesn't one shot stuff without even aiming
and that's enough for ppl to call it trash nowadays
bleak patrol
You have to aim and make sure you don't blow yourself up, that's clearly too much to ask for
obsidian flame
exactly
obsidian flame
in the group I was playing with, I was using the autocannon while two of the other guys were dedicated anti-heavy armor
the fourth guy was dedicated swarm killer
heavy heart
I tend to go defender and quasar when I'm running that, because then ballistic shield memes.
bleak patrol
I recently started using Scorcher on bot missions simply because I do not trust my Autocannon friend to do his job properly
I will let him use the AC, but my hopes are so low they are basically underground
Scorcher allows me to get rid of annoyances that I usually use my AC on
obsidian flame
I usually pull out the AC to take care of medium armor, and also to snipe destructible objectives
bleak patrol
My main AC targets are the Walkers
twin perch
Hello guys, here's another nitpick
Post dinner nitpick
Please AH stop making shitty low visibility/foggy/sandy etc conditions
my eyes are tired of searching for rocket devastators 50m
make it so enemies can only engage at 10 to 20m
obsidian flame
make their eyes glow through the low visibility, too
light nymph
Please AH stop making shitty low visibility/foggy/sandy etc conditions
They not here
obsidian flame
twin perch
Bitch, I am allowed to complain
pale hollow
Bitch, I am allowed to complain
eager cliff
earnest stag
twin perch
vocal hornet
By the way
Adjudicator isnt bad
It feels about on par with the other marksman rifles
But definitely not as good as the eruptor
Weirdly enough its got the best handling of all the marksman rifles
twin perch
Adjudicator?
Good handling?
Bro hasn't fired the full auto
With the 30% recoil armor it kicks like a fucking truck while crouching
slim coral
https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-20931372
twin perch
is that fucking AI art
vocal hornet
Adjudicator?
Wait what it has full auto
I didnt even check since its a marksman rifle
vocal hornet
Uooh japan helldiver art uoooh
plain bough
hornydivers tonight eh
vocal hornet
Supposedly telling people to perform acts of suicide is a no no
So i am stooping to sarcasm
earnest stag
Wait what it has full auto
it has and the mag is empty in like 2 seconds.It really sucks which upsets me
vocal hornet
it has and the mag is empty in like 2 seconds.It really sucks which upsets me
I wont lie that makes it pretty much a helldiver FAL
plain bough
Supposedly telling people to perform acts of suicide is a no no
convenient while we have 
vocal hornet
convenient while we have <:kys:1079918496198172742>
Exquisite
vocal hornet
it has and the mag is empty in like 2 seconds.It really sucks which upsets me
Alright have you tried the recoil while prone?
earnest stag
I do not prone to shoot every time
vocal hornet
Its
earnest stag
I rather use the Sickle or the Bolter
obsidian flame
the man who marks
vocal hornet
Yes
earnest stag
A marksman rifle with a full auto mode wink wink
vocal hornet
Yes
earnest stag
and a fire rate faster than any SMG
vocal hornet
Yes
vocal hornet
This is like hating something knowing full well you will hate it but going out of your way to do it anyways and then saying you hate it
earnest stag
I tried it first before i said i hate it especialy after it was marketed as an AR
Also it aint really a marksman rifle
earnest stag
A gun that u have to use ALWAYS in prone position is kinda useless in a game where movement is important
earnest stag
Nah since recoil is pretty dampened in first person with basicly everything except for that
Its weird and i dont know why the devs did it
but recoil changes if you fire through first person aim
vocal hornet
Yeah i dont know what’s up with first person
earnest stag
Yeah guess why i call bullshit xD
Nah its right
They just marketed it as AR until it came out
vocal hornet
Coder > random marketing man
earnest stag
Anyway considering basicly any option its not the best compared to all the rest
vocal hornet
I’d say its better than the counter sniper ngl
earnest stag
That is true
vocal hornet
Which makes it on the tier list
earnest stag
S for Scheiße
vocal hornet
Eruptor > adjudicator > cs > diligence
vocal hornet
If you cant snipe sure
earnest stag
Tank Rifle
Rifle Tank
I can snipe with the Sickle too
i aint needing a Marksman rifle for that
slim coral
The new DMR sucks anyway
twin perch
The thing is
the Adjudicator looks good but
just use the SMG
same damage almost
twin perch
and for 80 dmg just use the actual DMR
DMR's overall just need a buff
the Adjudicator would be top tier for 100 per shot
earnest stag
Local man goes within 5 meters with a marksman rifle
Thats what the full auto mode is for.But the mag is empty after 2 seconds so it aint even good for that if it comes to enemies closing in
plain bough
we'll be back next month folks to critique the next warbond lol
slim coral
The only good thing for adjudicator is med pen
vocal hornet
I honestly feel bad for the devs