🛩war-thunder

[opaque mica]

Recently I've noticed a funni

In regards to the AMX-10P and XM800T

They are basically identical vehicles, just in different tech trees

And one is classified as an SPAA, and the other is a Light Tank

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If you would give the Wiesel Darts

It would be the same

Just smaller and faster

[opaque mica]

The thing is

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They are completely the same in stats ?

[opaque mica]

AMX is a 6.0 SPAA, and XM800T is a 7.7 Light Tank

[opaque mica]

AMX has 5mm more armor and is 20km/h slower

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Wow

[fluid trout]

not stabilized tho

[opaque mica]

AMX has also worse vertical

[fluid trout]

and slower turret

[opaque mica]

I understand that France had a huge SPAA gap

But AMX does not fit there

It is a "light tank"

It even has scouting

But it has the SPAA mark of shame

[opaque mica]

Let's be perfectly honest here, XM800T is American, and US vehicles just have stabilizers

You get a stabilizer on reserve

Sure, it's only vertical if you go up to 16km/h

But it's there

Shermans are the same, but up to 24km/h

[fluid trout]

yeah but the XM is at a BR range where said stabilizers are much less common for US tree

[opaque mica]

[fluid trout]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

my thoughts on the amx and xm800 are that the AMX from the little i've played of it, it feels like it is ok in it's current spot. not the best not the worst. the XM800 is one of those ones that feel like you just have to uptier it to be decent against ground units, and even that is questionable

gonna actually check how many matches i've played in each, i know it won't be many for either of them

[ruby rain]

absolute dogshit

this is NOT a 11.7 veh

[soft oracle]

Skrill

[civic pelican]

i stick with WW2 tanks. I aint grinding years of my life just to get one fucking abrams tank

[sleek fractal]

if it takes you years its a massive skill issue anyway

RP gain in Ground RB should be buffed but rn you need like 40/50-xx Matches depending on how good you perform for a 410k tank if you consider the spading RP bonuses and Premium

[ruby rain]

tbh, I'm really not sure how the radars and other detection systems work and what the Radar/IRST controls do

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basicly Radar IRST is a button that you press and then you lock onto the target your looking at

Best case

worst case you press it 30000000 times til it locks

[ruby rain]

all this

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lol i never use that wheel unless to turn off the radar

You can assign all these buttons to the keyboard.Their mostly important for Air

You can switch through modes with the Russian SPAA iirc to prevent giving the enemy radar warnings.

Dont know about the ADATS... which is shit anyway

[ruby rain]

If a single tree can interrupt the radar lock-on of a ADATS, what about this missile? (since it mentions the ground and ground vehs)

that didnt make sense

[sleek fractal]

try not to radar lock

just fire and aim

then they wont try to avoid it if they dont get a warning

Adats is shit anyway

already wrote that

you can hunt down tanks way better with the missiles than planes

[ruby rain]

so there's only 2 or 3 usable SPAA's in the whole game?

[soft oracle]

Adats doesn't have IR locking sadly

but you can fire a missile away from heli and just guide it in in last few seconds

for jets idk just pray the pilot is stupid

[ruby rain]

I've had some just flick up last-second to dodge a missile

so annoying

[serene birch]

[blissful aurora]

yes, yes, yes

[blissful aurora]

bro's premium account ended

[serene birch]

icky

bmp but without the atgm

[serene birch]

in the UK youre sorta strapped for SPAA to use

the m113 adats is even worse cause no 30mm

[serene birch]

unlimited subscription

[opaque mica]

It's marked as a tank destroyer for a reason

[opaque mica]

It's where the most fun is at anyway

[serene birch]

to increase its SP cost

and technically irl it was a multipurpose vehicle

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Like its name is Air Defense Anti Tank System or something

[serene birch]

^ exactly that

[cold lichen]

Ngl, that's not a problem of the vehicle, just gaijin being awful at making anything that can reach beyond 10km that ISNT russian

Like AI S-300/Patriot systems that reside behind tank maps and force plane players to perform SEAD on AI positions before they can assault the ground units

Diversify ground RB

[sleek fractal]

Thats a shitty idea

Then Helicopters would get untouchable from air

[opaque mica]

Who cares, snail classified it as a Tank Destroyer

[serene birch]

cause it iiiis

for as wack as laffs takes are sometimes

hes right

[opaque mica]

We are not talking about the real life vehicle here. We are talking about the in-game one. The snail decided it's a tank destroyer, that's the primary way you should play it

Laff even said himself it's better to use it against tanks than planes

It's the same as, for example, the M18 was a tank destroyer in real life, but the snail decided to classify it as a light tank, because it fits this role better in the game that is War Thunder

Or how AMX-10P is an IFV, which would make it a light tank, but they made it an SPAA, because according to the snail, that's what it's meant for in the virtual battlefield, even if they gave it light tank functionalities like scouting

ADATS could be a can opener for all I care, but they decided that it fits the role of a tank destroyer instead of an SPAA. That's what the snail decided. I don't understand why are we even arguing this

[blissful aurora]

i'm a f2p so

i'm surprised that i got to 6.7 quickly

[serene birch]

i mean it was classed as an spaa upon release

[serene birch]

idk how people manage that

[opaque mica]

Well, it's not anymore, guess they found out

[soft oracle]

It is easy to play f2p

you just have to have right mindset

[sleek fractal]

Thanks,you should meet my friends and then im just tame

[blissful aurora]

zamn

shooting down planes with bkan is fun

[serene birch]

it only got changed to spg designation because the sp cost was really cheap and usa teams were spamming them to get aircraft really fast

[ruby rain]

its almost like

spawn points were a flawed feature from the beginning

[serene birch]

https://tenor.com/view/fry-drool-futurama-gif-11543266

[opaque mica]

Imagine playing aircraft in Ground RB

[serene birch]

war thunder is a ✨ combined arms ✨ game

[opaque mica]

Let it be known that on every game I play I make sure that aircraft "players" wasted the points they spent on their planes

[ruby rain]

Is that good or bad?

[blissful aurora]

You have 18336 hours of premium time in war thunder

[soft oracle]

Not enough

[blissful aurora]

MUST. BUY. PREMIUM.

[sleek fractal]

Yeah just BR lock everything and make it so you can use every slot twice

Then i get 22 spawns each match

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As long as you dont teamkill the nuke

[opaque mica]

Morally speaking, I should shoot down every nuke bomber regardless of the side they are on

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True

But its a game

[opaque mica]

But, eh

Free warcrimes

Winners are never prosecuted anyways

[blissful aurora]

i shot down a friendly plane when i was shooting down enemy planes

bruh

rip 11k sl

they need to bring back teamkill for ground vehicles

[sleek fractal]

You can.Just bomb them

Or play sim

[blissful aurora]

i don't have boms

bombs*

i'm at 6.7 while my fighter plane is at 1.3

don't ask why

[opaque mica]

But shooting down 7.3-7.7 planes with a 2.3 shitplane feels nice

The best plane I have in general is the F2G-1

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Josta also feels nice,doesnt mean i gotta touch him 24/7

[opaque mica]

And that thing is just 6.0

[opaque mica]

Well, I don't use planes that often because I despise them in Ground RB. I only ever use them when I play with friends and I want to goof around

So yes, the best I can offer is a 2.3-3.0 plane

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Thats the thing usualy,people that despise them dont play them.

There lies the problem

And in to cheap spawn cost ofc

[opaque mica]

Additionally as soon as Jets get involved, I lose interest in flying (them)

[sleek fractal]

Agree

[opaque mica]

The good old propeller planes are just

[sleek fractal]

It doesnt require skill to fling some missiles

Even Cat can do it

[opaque mica]

There are only 2 "modern" planes I'd like to own and those are A-10 and F-14

The thing is, even if I do get them someday, I don't see myself using them

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Get the iranian one now

Tomorrow the event starts

But you gotta fly

Or buy lol

[opaque mica]

Well, it's not that I can't fly. I just really dislike the flying shits in Ground RB

Unless they are actually playing in a way that I can approve of, that being actually supporting your team instead of camping the enemy spawn or just picking off lightly armored vehicles, while ignoring targets that are an actual threat to your allies on the ground

[ruby rain]

how about his:
Max amount of ground veh respawns per match = 9 - 1 per every five players on one team
= 6 on a full match

[ruby rain]

I haven't got to that br yet!!

[jaunty condor]

It's really not hard.

Played the FCU with zero top-tier air experience for the first time yesterday and I was consistently getting at least 2 kills a game.

[serene birch]

i can bomb churchills with the 60kg bombs on a zero. no excuse smh

[blissful aurora]

i said a fighter plane

not a bomber plane

[serene birch]

zero aint a bomber

[opaque mica]

A lot of fighters can equip bombs

And those bombs range from to

[blissful aurora]

mine doesn't have bombs

[soft oracle]

Son

You are the bomb

[blissful aurora]

that don't work anymore 😭

[serene birch]

it does on lighter vehicles :3

[gray thicket]

virgin cas users

[cold lichen]

The FCU is the that new Japanese F-5E right?

[jaunty condor]

Ya.

It's super solid purely because I have no top-tier air experience.
Prolly super good in the right hands.

[cold lichen]

Cause honestly, you could be brain dead and gets a fuck ton of kills in the F-5Es

I hadn't played in like 2 months and I hopped into a game with my F-5E and almost got an ace

It's just a god-tier plabe

Plane*

Now give is all aspect missiles that have 40g's of pull and brother, your cooking teams

I don't count the F-20 cause it's br is way to high

Also, I'm specifically stating the F-5E for a reason

And it's because it's got why better engines then the F-5C

[serene birch]

good, extra range for the rounds to go pop

[serene birch]

truly isnt enough

[serene birch]

i paid for my 12 vehicle slots

ima use them

[blissful aurora]

fr

i can't hold a spot for 3 minutes without getting my ass blown up

these mfs be thriving when they see an open top vehicle

[serene birch]

enjoy my 10 second photoshop skill

[blissful aurora]

yours is better than mine lmao

i only use photoshop to edit my own map textures

photoshop cs6 (old af, from 2012) to be exact

[serene birch]

fair homie i dont really use it except ot make really dumb shit like that

@blissful aurora i also made this dumb shit ages ago

i mean it still rings very true but

my humor is dumb

[blissful aurora]

back when time based images on a vehicle was still a thing

i wish they bring those back

[serene birch]

real

also this was touched up in photoshop a little

this was taken like a little after dagor 5.0 dropped

i was in awe with how pretty the game looked

[sleek fractal]

Question

Why is this better than the 100GE ?

[serene birch]

yes

[sleek fractal]

Yes it is but the question was why.

[serene birch]

yes :)

[sleek fractal]

I want to know if people know

[serene birch]

because ummm

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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You can do jack shit with 100GE and 5 Backups are 325GE

[serene birch]

:D

um you can get

33k sl

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or crew points

[serene birch]

and still have 10 GE left over

you can buy 1 gambling crate

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True and get lucky

[serene birch]

im sorry what the fuck

500 GE for a 75% booster

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if you get 100Ge,buy a crate and get the vehicle first try your right to ever complain about WT again is down the shitter

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but its like the tournament wagers

iirc more battles and it doesnt have a timer

[serene birch]

how many of these you got laff?

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Fucking expensive though

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i think none cause i dont play tournies

or got any old ones left

[serene birch]

ive had these for years

[sleek fractal]

yeah i didnt save up all of those old ones

[serene birch]

idk why i did

[sleek fractal]

im happy i still got the old GE wagers

[serene birch]

i love that i have nearly as many commander wagers as i do rookie

but fuck all officer ones

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What was the wager they reduced from 500k to 250k SL ?

[serene birch]

no idea

i never payed attentions to wagers ngl

[sleek fractal]

Best Squad ....

from 250k to 125k

ah no

max stake is 250k

yeah it was best squad

to bad i dont have the old ones of that

[serene birch]

tbh best squad is easy to abuse

[sleek fractal]

thats why they reduced em

ive got 4 commander wagers left 😦

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60 wingman wagers ffs

less than i thought

[serene birch]

RAAAAAAAAAAA BACKUPS

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yeah ok i got some of these random nation backups too

but nothing worth using

[serene birch]

fr

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especialy the naval ones

[serene birch]

THEY REMOVED MY TITLE I HAD IN MY INVENTORY

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lel

[serene birch]

those bastards.

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waiting game

[serene birch]

i got like fuckall in my vehicle inv since selling my ags and something else

[serene birch]

fellow title collector i see

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Sherman Hunter was the pre order title of Herman

[serene birch]

the grossest title

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Also best PFP

[serene birch]

incorrect

[sleek fractal]

Was that the title if you bought all the Russian vehicles ?

[serene birch]

no you had to spend like

200USD or something

total

[serene birch]

this is the best PFP

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also i dont have the shopaholic title smh

[serene birch]

smhhh

[sleek fractal]

They removed my Quizmaster title lol

[serene birch]

this has to be my fav title tho

[serene birch]

mine too :(

[serene birch]

oh is that it

maybe it is

cause i got that

[sleek fractal]

i think it was

But there was also one called Quizmaster

im 100% sure

So people know your an addict

[serene birch]

:)))))))

you dont see this one very much sadly

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i dont have BRRRRRRRRRT cause i didnt pre order the A10

i thought it was ultra shit at release

[serene birch]

i preordered the a-10 purely for the title

like cmooooooon

how could i resist preordering for the mig-28 skin

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ahhhh i regret not preordering that

[serene birch]

remember when this said vehicles rank: v

[serene birch]

real

back when this was the scariest mfer you could see

[sleek fractal]

3 year anniversary xD

yeah lol

and now its rather shit

[serene birch]

LOL yeah

[sleek fractal]

i completely forgot it exists til now

[serene birch]

you know what i still have awful flashbacks to?

this fucker

[sleek fractal]

i wanted to buy it xD

The premium one *

Glad i still didnt

i dont get people buying that piece of shit

not even agile eagle slats on 11.3

Anyway .... nostalgia.... back when Bombers had laser gunners

and now im off to eat my Burger.

[serene birch]

heres some nostalgia

AFTERBURNING JETS

[eternal zenith]

best title

[ruby rain]

I just have Tankman (or what's it called)

[eternal zenith]

It's so cool tho

[serene birch]

it was very not cool to fight when it first came out

[gray thicket]

j7d

[serene birch]

mig-21mf

[cold lichen]

A 20mm Vulcan armed super sonic fighter that on one air map to which I can't remember, could spawn in and insta kill the whole team before they could take off?

[gray thicket]

but better

[cold lichen]

Yeah, I remember that

[serene birch]

you know the lead indicator the f-16 has? the t-2 had that on launch

[cold lichen]

Ik

[serene birch]

it fought 8.3s regularly

it was aids

[serene birch]

eeeeh

way higher br

[gray thicket]

for a reason

[cold lichen]

I had to fight against it while I was grinding my America air back then

[gray thicket]

pl-5b go vroom

[serene birch]

its the same airframe just better missiles

[cold lichen]

PL-5

Yeah

I thought so

Just pythons right?

[serene birch]

the mf airframe is hella lackluster at like what 11.7 or whatever its at

[gray thicket]

no

j7d is double delta

[serene birch]

thats the j-7e

[gray thicket]

it’s the best mig21…

OH

yeah I meant j7d

oops

[serene birch]

j-7d is the premium

[gray thicket]

wait

[cold lichen]

Didn't they nerf the flight performance of the MiG-23?

All mig-23*

[gray thicket]

I was talking about the j7e mb

[serene birch]

did they? finally

[serene birch]

oh yeah then in that case really good aircraft yeah

[gray thicket]

a5c is better than j7d

[serene birch]

purely because better br yeah ive got both and the mf airframe just aint it at 11.7

or 11.3

[gray thicket]

yeah

[serene birch]

can’t remember whicu

[cold lichen]

My buddies SWEARS on his life, who played the shit out of the 23MF, that they nerfed it

[gray thicket]

and you’re fighting brain dead a10s that you can energy trap

[serene birch]

well good the mig 23 was hella unrealistic, it could not turn that well irl at all it was a brick

[gray thicket]

same goes for su-25s

[serene birch]

F8U is just 🔥🔥🔥 now tho with the br decompression

and the changes to G overloads

no more snappy snappy

[gray thicket]

kfir canard are bloody unfair

like I’m in a mig 19

[serene birch]

didnt its BR get raised a lot now with the changes

[gray thicket]

idk

but

they always be stealing bases

cuz they’re that fast

[serene birch]

yeah its 11.3 now instead of 10.3

[gray thicket]

yippie

[serene birch]

kfir pilots who bomb with it at seriously wasting it’s potential

its gross as a dogfighter because mirage but phantom engine

[gray thicket]

I see f104s bombing bases

instead of doing what they’re actually designed for😭

[serene birch]

idk i cannot enjoy 104s

[gray thicket]

taiwanese f104 is good

[serene birch]

id prefer to play the lightning

[gray thicket]

yes

red tops

[cold lichen]

Aim-9b are dreadful

[serene birch]

slightly slower way better missiles (other than the german one) same br, better at turning

redtops are very slightly all aspect because of how sensitive their seekers are

you can get them off at like 1.2kmish

[gray thicket]

foolery

[serene birch]

it usually takes them off guard because they dont expect a missile coming directly at them like that

woo f-14a event later

[eternal zenith]

did they fuck up the change vehicle buttons?

tempted to play, thank you for reminding me not to

[cold lichen]

They made it so you can re arrange your vehicles without spending SL to train crew

[eternal zenith]

yeah but wasn't there a button to change vehicle instead of having to right click?

[serene birch]

wdym

like this menu?

[eternal zenith]

yeah there was a button that let you directly choose vehicles

[serene birch]

its right theeere

[eternal zenith]

[serene birch]

tf

i still got it

youre not worthy to gaijin

you clearly just have to spend as much money as i do

[cold lichen]

It should be below it now?

Unless you've got the oldest war thunder KNOWN to man

[eternal zenith]

I felt l ike playing and redownloaded today

might be some weird setting or bug

[eternal zenith]

Seems like you got an older version

[serene birch]

but my game literally updated last night

[eternal zenith]

[serene birch]

im just better than you all

[eternal zenith]

they suck, enough said

[serene birch]

gaijin blessed me with the original better method

[eternal zenith]

can't even version control

[eternal zenith]

bro am about to kill myself

fuck this game

[serene birch]

lmfao damn

[proper stag]

Sanest french main

[eternal zenith]

Sanitiy unlocked. Finally no more heat

[sleek fractal]

?

Like

Does not everyone have stock darts by now at that BR

[eternal zenith]

why do you think I've been debating with the rope?

[sleek fractal]

So france hasnt,which was one of tge nations that usualy did like GB ?

[eternal zenith]

right?

[sleek fractal]

Ask the rope about the Event today

[eternal zenith]

Plane events is me taking out the ol ITP

[sleek fractal]

I just F-14 til 45k points

Or P-59A as a break

[eternal zenith]

I guess I'll try out the Event Mirage2000

rankVIII + ARB means I'll only have to get like a single kill each round

Man I gotta bind all the radar hotkeys for top tier jets to work

chore

[serene birch]

ive literally only set change radar mode, radar lock and missile switch to my mouse binds

its all you really need

scale and the others are p meh

oh nah actually ive kept the change mode to its default bind

not as complicated as it seems cause most of the things in the Y menu can be ignored

[serene birch]

its only top tier

BR is ignored (sadly)

[serene birch]

look at it. its sitting here. mocking you.

[eternal zenith]

what have I done

Should've skipped the S2 and go straight for dart at stock

[serene birch]

TBH you could always just

gold it

[gray thicket]

bro should’ve waited for benelux tech tree

[graceful dawn]

IRANIAN F14 IS COMING BAYBEE

I PRACTICALLY PREDICTED IT

I don't even play War Thunder anymore but I might buy this event vehicle on the gajin market

Did want to play the F14 but had no desire to grind america

[eternal zenith]

cunt air mode

fuck planes

bitch ass crew lock on death snail should kill themselves

I'm gonna travel to russia

[ruby rain]

spend 10 mins flying from runway
1st contact
800m
get pilotsniped
return to hangar

The air battles experience

[eternal zenith]

first kill I was about to get in an hour... assist after breaking the wings and some fuck sniped the pilot

1:30

bitch been lying

[ruby rain]

Is that the Iranian F-14 event?

Srry I haven't been following

[crude ruin]

yup

[sleek fractal]

Ye

Easily done

[soft oracle]

How much average?

Gambling hell yeah

[crude ruin]

this is not gambling

i want my old gamble back

[eternal zenith]

eat a dick

[ruby rain]

PANZERGRANATE GELADEN !!!

[eternal zenith]

Den Kommandant hat's erwischt

WIR BRENNEN

[soft oracle]

Laden!

[eternal zenith]

man they could've at least make it a premium

https://tenor.com/li7ouXXE3vQ.gif

[eternal zenith]

man the moment I saw it I gambled all my SL away. didn't even look at the drops

[soft oracle]

Hell yeah thats the spirit

now gamble your house

[eternal zenith]

my maus?

😱

[soft oracle]

All on red

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6x-cO-XH1w

excuse to gamble

[eternal zenith]

37 crates

[soft oracle]

Damn keep on going

[eternal zenith]

||pic unrelated, but I want it||

[soft oracle]

IS-7 waits for you

The money is already printed

you just have to go and get it

[eternal zenith]

converting all my GJC to GE to convert to SL

https://tenor.com/b1Uy2.gif

we made fun of them

[soft oracle]

F-5C is perfect gambling machine

you earn the same amout you spend on gambling

[eternal zenith]

Now real talk... how the fuck do I play top tier jets

[soft oracle]

No idea

I used F-15 to fly as low as possible and flank premium retos

bait people and clap with AIM-9

since AIM-7 never worked for me

[eternal zenith]

@sleek fractal @serene birch
give me a retard playbook

llama typing

[keen sequoia]

nice, my mate got a C2A1 within like 15 crates i believe

while me and another mate got nothing but pain

[eternal zenith]

#🛩war-thunder message

[keen sequoia]

ah

didnt read that far

[eternal zenith]

[soft oracle]

I got BI

but not as coupon

[eternal zenith]

fr?

[soft oracle]

Yes

[eternal zenith]

I love this thing

[soft oracle]

shared it here

#🛩war-thunder message

62 crates

[jaunty condor]

I got the Yuudachi and a ton of decorations.

[sleek fractal]

if i get an Is7 Coupon i will be eternaly happy

i already have an Is7

just no coupon xD

i love how they say it got 0.01% chance

AYOOOOO

[soft oracle]

Damn

How many crates

yeah thats your press account

[sleek fractal]

That was the 11. crate

so basicly 20

worth way less than i thought but i guess the price goes up soon after the GAMBA

[soft oracle]

Damn wasn't it like 60ish before

[sleek fractal]

yee

[ruby rain]

which nation is the Iranian F-14 gonna be in?

[ruby rain]

@sleek fractal

[eternal zenith]

US

[ruby rain]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-fish-pogging-currently-gif-2252544987340524926

[sleek fractal]

Us yeah

Which the article stated

[ruby rain]

how does energy fighting work?

[soft oracle]

You maintain more energy than enemy

and you kill them

[sleek fractal]

You either dive on the enemy,kill him,get altitude again or you swoop in get in a fight with him,outstall him and then get at him again

Theres a few of these tactics

[ruby rain]

divecon? start diving but then pull out of it and...?

climb?

[sleek fractal]

Climbing

Thats what you do from the start of the match

Get altitude

Then dive on lower targets and use the energy/speed from diving to get altitude again

[ruby rain]

I asked bc I wanted to try out Bearcat

F8F-1

[ruby rain]

crashed into something while alt-tabbed out

[eternal zenith]

ok I'm starting to get why people like jets

not too bad

[eternal zenith]

is baiting other jets to fire their SARHs a legit strat or rat behavior?

[serene birch]

only like low tier vehicles are premium sadly

[soft oracle]

Not mine

[eternal zenith]

goated little guy

meanwhile I opened 50 crates and pulled nothing but boosters and wagers

[soft oracle]

I got decal 2018

[eternal zenith]

I once again ask for your technical support

[soft oracle]

God will gift me Object 279

[eternal zenith]

how do I play 12.3+ jets

[soft oracle]

Fly low

find playres above you

sarh them

repeat

[eternal zenith]

I been flying 10k dodging sahr until they ran out then get 1-2 kills

so far I got 8 kills

It's so fun climbing

should I even bother with IR missiles?

[serene birch]

depends on the missile

[soft oracle]

Yeah up close spam IR missiles

just get <2km

[eternal zenith]

Is there some radar meta?

Like I struggle a bit with search radar locking onto what

like I use the narrow PD when you turn off search mode

pretty sure that's dumb

[soft oracle]

I use PDV for head on

depending on the plane

just to see where targets are

then switch to PD 19km until close

[eternal zenith]

that's the ACM mode right?

[soft oracle]

You won't engage anything beyond that with AIM7

No just regular PD scan

[eternal zenith]

the 19km range I mean, it shows ACM when I use it

[soft oracle]

ACM only when I very close to slave a IR missile

[eternal zenith]

ah

[soft oracle]

To be honest I might be wrong about these things since I am not a air player

but this worked for me

since F4 till F-15

[eternal zenith]

do all SARH missiles need to be locked?

and can I relock when I loose tracking mid flight?

[eternal zenith]

ty ty

[soft oracle]

Yeah you can re lock

and hope

[serene birch]

AIM-7s have like a few seconds of self guidance

so if they manage to lose lock moments before the missile hits it may still keep tracking them

results may vary :)

[eternal zenith]

I'm shooting 2day old baguettes at f-14s

[serene birch]

just ask for free kills i promise it works :)

[eternal zenith]

jesus fucking christ that was the single most painful experience in my life

of the 45k I got 14 from kills

86 deaths

[eternal zenith]

[jaunty condor]

I've just been running the Yak-3.

Top-tier air is so extremely, massively hit or miss I just run a cheese prop and get it over with lmao.

[ruby rain]

Me when I've been flying around in air battles for 15 mins

https://tenor.com/view/mike-goes-boom-war-thunder-mike-shocked-shocked-gif-25751820

(bottom of scoreboard)

[soft oracle]

Destroy ground targets

[ruby rain]

with a fighter?

[soft oracle]

Yeah??

[sleek fractal]

Yes

[soft oracle]

You have cannons

You can blow up ground AAs, field howitzers, light tanks

[ruby rain]

only .50's

[sleek fractal]

Even .50 can destroy most ground targets

[soft oracle]

So?

You can blow up field bunker with .50

[ruby rain]

okok

[soft oracle]

you just need more of it

[ruby rain]

damn

[soft oracle]

You can enable the wager for ground targets or something

12 ground AI kills in a match easy

[sturdy pulsar]

Lawnmowing is a time honored US team tradition

[soft oracle]

Su-25 tried to do the same to my F-5C but failed miserably somehow

[low fern]

Soooo uuhhh

Guys

F11f-1 is good or bad?

I got it from crate

[soft oracle]

It is meh

[opaque mica]

Me when I activate a 500% booster

Me in the next game
Top of the scoreboard, 5sp away from nuke

[opaque mica]

The disrespect and lack of sportsmanship of the WT community, shown in one short video

[ruby rain]

I didn't check their stats but probably shit players hungry for kills

One of em smashed into the ground

[opaque mica]

The side effects of the grind

[ruby rain]

An event, no less

[gray thicket]

grb

[sleek fractal]

i mean .... a free kill is a free kill

[opaque mica]

See, that's what I mean

[sleek fractal]

Also severe damage exists.

[opaque mica]

Next you'll tell me that camping the enemy spawn is ok

[sleek fractal]

Nah thats garbo

But thats the most common issue due WT map design

[opaque mica]

Ok, karma restored, a bit

[sleek fractal]

Its also a hughe WT Map issue that Planes are necessary to have in GRB

[opaque mica]

I remember that recently a dude has beat me fair and square in a dogfight but he still let me make an emergency landing

That's a very rare occurance

[ruby rain]

How much dmg is "Severe damage"?/

[sleek fractal]

It ccan be one single bullet hitting an engine

[sleek fractal]

Because its a game .... im playing to get my points so why would i someone willingly let go ? Il guess he was out of ammo xD

[ruby rain]

so severe dmg cann be survivable

[opaque mica]

Because other people also want to have fun / get points

[sleek fractal]

Ofc its just to secure the kill for you if someone kills him

[opaque mica]

The least you can do is let your opponent get the bonus for landing

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but some people consider it fun to spawn with a PO-2 at 13.0

[ruby rain]

[opaque mica]

Also he was not out of ammo

Because soon afterwards he fucked another dude

[sleek fractal]

lel

Then he truly was stupid to let you live

[opaque mica]

Why, I was down regardless

I would let him land as well if we swapped places

[sleek fractal]

A secure kill is better than let you leave and repair

[opaque mica]

Leave and repair?

[sleek fractal]

like Warthunder Damage modells are dumb

[opaque mica]

Yeah, no way I'd be able to get back to the airfield

The engine was dead already and I had to fight to even land

[sleek fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwd-DCqGNus

[sleek fractal]

youd be suprised how well you can get back to the AF sometimes.

[opaque mica]

Not in this scenario

[sleek fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQSDm-Lvmw

[sleek fractal]

Well if he knows your dead regardless then he was smart and "didnt let you leave"

[opaque mica]

There was this one time an enemy tank managed to fall upside down in front of me and I seriously considered helping him flip the tank

[fluid trout]

gaijin moment with the ricochet and then salvaged it after

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/767757338941325314/1271555666867392634/gaijin_moment.mp4?ex=66b7c3ff&is=66b6727f&hm=1fa151e0c3a2d629318263133ef0b69538fad9e3d28ed9ffb85148a6dc348355&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/767757338941325314/1271555668368687177/salvaged.mp4?ex=66b7c3ff&is=66b6727f&hm=8bcbbf75fbea30fbd088d572b1157f4bb3086dd7d491d63b6a6d92e420648d48&

[opaque mica]

And I would help him if another enemy didn't shoot me first

[sleek fractal]

ok yeah i do that too

but usualy either you get shot or a friendly shoots him

btw its comicly unfunny how many people get an AUBL Coupon from the crates

[opaque mica]

I found the clip

[sleek fractal]

[opaque mica]

I'd love to get one

Mainly because Italy is my main nation

[fluid trout]

ah so that explains the cheap coupons lmao

[sleek fractal]

Yeah buy Coupons either 3 days after they got sellable or when stuff like these SL crates hit

Thats when they are cheapest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fc-JpIMNQU

Peak Maus gameplay

[ruby rain]

@sleek fractal have you ever seen someone cap a point with a VTOL plane?

[sleek fractal]

even with a prop,Jet or Helicopter

[ruby rain]

ah

I've only seen with a heli

[sleek fractal]

Its not that uncommon that people get very creative

The Po2 is very good for that

[ruby rain]

except he only attempted it before succumbing from mg fire

[sleek fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R585qkmLbA

[ruby rain]

honestly, who gaf?

why even leak?

when it's ready, we'll see it

[sleek fractal]

Thats not true

Theres stuff in the files ready since a decade

We still wont have it in the game and only on Dev

I just thought this approach is kinda funny with the riddles

Cause its obviously all high tier crap

Puma with Spikes is the first one

Eurofighter is also in there

Black eagle aka obj 640 is there too

smh

[ruby rain]

oh so it's not necessarily just update content but also stuff that's just sitting inn the game hidden

[soft oracle]

We call it Abdul

I forgot that thing was premium

zamn

[serene birch]

that fucking blackcat we got teased with ages ago

also those bastards.

gave me a vehicle i already fucking have

[hardy pasture]

ok the pain now can end

[serene birch]

giant orange stripe

[ruby rain]

hopeless

fucking dogshit

[hardy pasture]

i know but im to lazy to use capture immage again

[jaunty condor]

Hey hey hey.

Just randomly opened 10 before SQB's.

[sleek fractal]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ProtectiveRoughPelicanPunchTrees-wqAiVluZc4BUz664

[gray thicket]

I have 14hour car trip now

[spark spindle]

Enjoy the trip!

[hollow pelican]

Always found it funny how they revealed the AbramsX like it was an Iphone

[ruby rain]

Bro every dumb cunt has become such a fucking sweat, I can't get a kill in edgeways. I couldn't even kill a Ju87, fucker was duckingn and weaving and just somehow tanked every fucking hit until I literally ran out of bullets

RIP Tomcat

it was nice never havinng you

[carmine flax]

tomcat is shit

[sleek fractal]

yeah nah its pretty good,especialy with the Yasser and Iranian equivalents of the other missiles

[carmine flax]

aim9b:

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain2-atg-missile-mk1-gif-23126416

[sleek fractal]

Aim9B?

[carmine flax]

all you need to fuck up a tomcat

an aim9b

[sleek fractal]

Like,just dodge

Its like saying 20mm bullet

[carmine flax]

tomcat players dont know how to dodge

[sleek fractal]

I do

[carmine flax]

they evolved

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-satoru-satoru-gojo-jjk-gif-5381230184277366294

[sleek fractal]

Also i never seen someobe trying to fight me with Aim9B on that BR

[carmine flax]

i wanted to do it for the funnies

[sleek fractal]

Im grinding the Event with it

[carmine flax]

next star is in an hour right?

[sleek fractal]

Its comicly unfunny that you constantly get 2-3 kills with Phoenix

[jaunty condor]

I'll be sure to fly in a straight line if I see you in game.

[sleek fractal]

Yep

[carmine flax]

you wanna play top sim?

[sleek fractal]

I dont play sim

[carmine flax]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-meme-jar-gif-4658690738464352739

if you time it right

you can play a sim game before the star by 2 hours

and finish on the last hour or something

and get a shit ton of score

if you wanna minmax your time

im gonna go fuck up some f15s and f16 in my baguette machine

[sleek fractal]

I usualy need 2 hours in total for a Star.

In RB

[carmine flax]

hurh

[sleek fractal]

[carmine flax]

how do you get that much

do you bomb

[sleek fractal]

3 kills with a plane are like 3,2k score

A match is like what? 5 minutes

[carmine flax]

you need like 14k score in a sim game to get the entire star

so probably around 2 hours if you tryhard enough

[sleek fractal]

It all depends on your performance anyway

[carmine flax]

i had a phase where i used to use my thermal pod to look at the mfs locking me

bro really fired 2 aamrams at me

[ruby rain]

I mean thanks but how are you going to know it's me?

[jaunty condor]

Because if I don't I'm sure I'll see a message or two in here about it

[ruby rain]

That'll be too late

[serene birch]

just ground pound in like

the A-26 if you have it

ive managed to get 10k score in 1 match in air rb by ground pounding

[serene birch]

i miss when sim gave you ridiculous rewards

[carmine flax]

holy fuck 80k rp

[serene birch]

131 vehicle

my record is like

68k in an air rb match

[carmine flax]

26m from the mirage lmao

[serene birch]

#🛩war-thunder message

[carmine flax]

damn

[serene birch]

i dont think ive played any vehicles more than 300 times

i get too bored of them and have spaded them by then

[carmine flax]

the mirage f1c is my main money grinder

[serene birch]

i just play lowtier tanks

[carmine flax]

even without prem

[serene birch]

mind numbindly enjoyable and easy to get SL with

[carmine flax]

tanks are inconsistent for me

[serene birch]

i just jam 3.7

Pz IV go brrrr

[carmine flax]

imo

if i started with tanks

i wouldve been a better tank player

maybe a worse air player

[serene birch]

i mean not necessarily

[serene birch]

you can play planes in tanks and get perfectly good at it

[serene birch]

based su-25k enjoyer

[carmine flax]

i finished american and russian air

when the mig23mld was the highest thing you could get

[serene birch]

when it first released i got my KD to be like 200 kills to 70 deaths in a couple of weeks

[carmine flax]

and f14a was the best jet

[serene birch]

i miss when the CL-13A was the king

[carmine flax]

i came in late

[serene birch]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-episode4-a-new-hope-obiwan-kenobi-obi-wan-gif-12413430

[carmine flax]

nah

those were the dark times

[serene birch]

wrooong

[carmine flax]

when killing 2 people in top tier and dying still made you lose money

[serene birch]

you know how enjoyable it was fighting top tier

[carmine flax]

i had to kill 3 to make even

[serene birch]

pfft nah you didnt have that issue back when it was MiG-17s v F-96F-2s and CL-13As

it was fannntastic

[carmine flax]

rn not having prem is like having prem in the old days

[serene birch]

it literally came down to who had the most skill

[carmine flax]

homes

quick question

[serene birch]

yuh

quick answer

[carmine flax]

do i play ac origins or black flag

[serene birch]

black flag

[carmine flax]

i want to play both rn

[serene birch]

fuck origins!!!!

[carmine flax]

hey mane

:(

[serene birch]

i enjoyed odyssey mroe than origins

[carmine flax]

its based on my shit country

[carmine flax]

nah thats wrong

only thing i enjoy about odyssey is the naval

[serene birch]

odyssey had a more interesting setting

and the armors look cool in that game

the ones in origins look like kaka

[carmine flax]

i roll the default one

or one of the dlc ones

until i finish the game and do the dlc

[serene birch]

wasnt a fan of any except like a couple of things

[carmine flax]

and get the hidden ones outfit

[serene birch]

even better

just play unity

goated ac game

[carmine flax]

finished it

twice

[serene birch]

finish it again

[carmine flax]

finished black flag 4 times

did ac origins once

[serene birch]

play liberation

[carmine flax]

nuh

[serene birch]

yuh

[carmine flax]

i wanna play origins for the dlc

[serene birch]

its actually p good as a expansion of AC3

[carmine flax]

fighting the pharoah in that fancy ass hall was fun

and atmospheric

and the one in the desert

in the afterlife

[serene birch]

medusa fight was better B)))

[carmine flax]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

never finished odyssey

too big for me

[serene birch]

no i hated that fight so fucking much

its annoying asf

it feels like it wants to be a dark souls boss

[carmine flax]

you just need to learn patterns

[serene birch]

when the other bosses have just felt like the witcher bosses

[carmine flax]

one of the best fights in game history imo

is deathstroke in batman arkham origins

[serene birch]

im playing assassins cred

not dark souls

if i wanted to play dark souls id play dark souls

[carmine flax]

it wasnt that hard

[serene birch]

its not hard its just wildly different and extremely off putting

[carmine flax]

one thing that pissed me off in ac4 is that i never got a double kill finisher

[serene birch]

as i said, if i wanted to play a dark souls game, id be playing one. im playing an assassins creed thats already trying to be a witcher clone

[carmine flax]

like ac3 where it was every other kill

[serene birch]

its cause you really only get them when you counter 2 enemies at once

ngl i really hated AC3 and AC4s combat shit was BRAINDEAD

[carmine flax]

i never had 2 enemies attack at once

it was fun

because it was braindead

and you looked cool doing it

[serene birch]

unity had easy combat

that still looked cool

without being braindead

[carmine flax]

never got into much combat

[serene birch]

and actually made huge groups somewhat worrying

[carmine flax]

just smoke and assassinate

[serene birch]

i did 1 playthrough doing stealth/ambush tactics

the other as a tank with a battleaxe

both were extremely enjoyable with their own challenge

[carmine flax]

ac shadows is gonna be dogshit

trust

[serene birch]

probably cause they keep doing the same witcher style rpg game

[carmine flax]

the rpg formula is dogshit

bring back ac4 combat!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-meme-jar-gif-4658690738464352739

i just want to press 2 buttons and win

better yet

rip off ghost of tsushima

[serene birch]

ngl ghost of tsushima was shockingly easy

prolly due to lack of enemy variety tho

[carmine flax]

i die because i try to look cool while killing mfs

[serene birch]

once you learned the like maybe 10 different enemy patterns shit was a cakewalk

[carmine flax]

you can get some new enemies if you do the island questline

tho you have to finish it before going back to tsushima island

shamans were annoying ngl

[serene birch]

i p much did the main game, finsihed it and uninstalled

have not touched it since

[carmine flax]

im doing a second playthrough

its still fun

[soft oracle]

Best I got

but it is sim

[jaunty condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259240595478810737/1271807738426691635/War_Thunder_2024.08.09_-_23.36.39.02.DVR_-_Trim_-_Trim_-_Trim_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66b8aec1&is=66b75d41&hm=fee45463530ee4af34450fc3851f45292967c6898faa7f6eab7a56fcbcefb05f&

[gray thicket]

no, it’s torture

[fluid trout]

good shot, also love the map. doesn't show up often enough, genuinely. such a specific BR range

[jaunty condor]

I fucking hate the map in RB.

Works well in SQB's though.

Even though it's huge, it works much better with smaller teams and comms and shit.

[serene birch]

this

hate it in actual matches, great in SQBs tho

[sleek fractal]

Why do i know people like this

[sleek fractal]

Thats from 1200 crates

[crude ruin]

and now go heli PVE

with Ka 50

[serene birch]

or do some like 4.3 blue water

easy SL

[ruby rain]

2-3 matches per kill

its SO fucking bad

[serene birch]

whatchu playing

[ruby rain]

3.7 Cannonstang

[serene birch]

LOL yeah

ive got 6 games. 2 kills 5 deaths

very pog

[ruby rain]

what plane?

[serene birch]

cannonstang

[sleek fractal]

Yesterday was nice til i had 40k points ... for the last 5k i couldnt make any kills anymore lol

Real krill issue

[ruby rain]

is the sentence structure of "Ist es für mich aus" that of a statement or a question?

so barely made it to af

[sleek fractal]

Ita a question

[ruby rain]

very nice change from air battles
(USA ground 8.0, Tunisia)

[jaunty condor]

Aubl HVG is really nice.

[carmine flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256050497232699423/1272284139873112167/image.png?ex=66ba6a70&is=66b918f0&hm=2e88025bad8621aae6df851a7aafe637868b4cab0ed3fc7254c9956875b9905f&

In my 3.5k hours this is the first time I've gotten a compliment

[umbral delta]

sir

[eternal zenith]

stugs to be him

[umbral delta]

no his track ate my shot

and i died to his friend

[serene birch]

clearly an edited image

no one in wt is nice

[eternal zenith]

chat now replaces racial slurs with complements

[carmine flax]

how did you know??

[serene birch]

im just a pro B)

[jaunty condor]

Weird.
I was wondering why my messages were different in chat.

[ruby rain]

completely fake and scripted flatspin

[copper laurel]

i love watching political videos in the background while playing war thunder

[ruby rain]

[copper laurel]

maybe i am