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mellow zealot
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anything after the autoloader tier is overtiered

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i want to argue that the sa50 m4a4 is also overtiered due to the firefly being the same shit + AA cannon

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the amx30 1972 is a 7.7 at best it has nothing going for it

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if shit like the cent mk1 can be 6.0

short bolt
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Yeah but imagine giving frenchies something like t55a it wouldnt be fair

mellow zealot
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same goes for the b2/brenus which should be ATLEAST -0.3

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the amx32 is completely and utter dogshit

mellow zealot
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actually let me give you an ever better perspective

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XM-1 is 9.3

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its the same BR as that

short bolt
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Well br decompression is a bitch

mellow zealot
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its easy for french honetsly

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an amx-50 is gonna pen an is-2 1944 just as easy as a 105mm HEAT shell

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the balancing part is no autoloader

short bolt
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I mean i had to play leo I with no df105 or raketenautomat

mellow zealot
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yea but its not 8.3/8.7

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also it has HEAT-FS and not normal heat

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the 20mm is a useless cannon it cant even sidepen light vehicles lol

mellow zealot
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and the mantlet can stop shells (somehow)

short bolt
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Gaijin would like to inform you that 20mm cannons are worse than 50 cals

mellow zealot
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now if they added it to infantry battles..

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but this is still tanks

mellow zealot
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the 14.5mm can destroy barrels easily btw

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EASILY

short bolt
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I mean realism am i rite

mellow zealot
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yes im sure 500 rounds of HE would never unlink a track much less destroy

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it HAS to be api-t bro

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the amx-40 doesnt strike me as a good 10.0 tank either

short bolt
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I didnt really play french after 7.7 but after apfsds most things can function even in uptiers

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If they have stab that is

mellow zealot
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lol

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the amx32-105 proved thats bs

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i got a nonpen on stingray front

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its a shit tank

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thats just one example i remember

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genuinely ungrindable tank

short bolt
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I feel like the game has been jank past weeks i had similar issues with tiger II

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Granted early apfsds

mellow zealot
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i'm either dogshit at aiming and hit overlaps constantly or i'm getting some shit like that

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i had a panther ricochet a 105 which should practically never happen

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normal angle

short bolt
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Yeah its just war thunder being war thunder

mellow zealot
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also

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protection analysis maps just lie

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i "can" pen the is-2 1944 with the 105mm

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tested it in game like 3x and 2 ricocheted and 1 nonpenned

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so i have to hit the trolly is-2 turret which just makes me np anyway

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i have an easier time penning maus than is2 xd

short bolt
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Volumetric is the name of the russian bias game trying to kill a t34 with 75 shermans are just pure cancer

mellow zealot
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hell even non-44 variant front is weird asf

mellow zealot
short bolt
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Thats the issue you need to be dead on and sometimes even then the round will just disappear in to oblivion

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I had no idea how annoying t34s were when i stopped playing germany

mellow zealot
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i noticed it most while playing sweden

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GENUINELY cant do anything to russian tanks at like BR4-5

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the rounds feel so weak

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point is uhh

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french BR8-10 is overtiered by atleast 0.3

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when you compare it to other nations its just funny

fallen sparrow
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Jesus christ

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Just give me APCBC in AMX32

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And my life will be your

mellow zealot
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rifled? is it

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though having a SAPHE shell would be funny

cold lichen
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You can fire APFSDS from rifled guns but not things like HEATFS

fallen sparrow
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Thing shot you with HE: Calm

Its a Gun Launcher gun: Panik

leaden onyx
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First nuke ever and the game bugged out didn't let me have a clean screenshot.

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Dogshit game.

mellow zealot
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i presume you got shot down

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i had the exact same thing today :p

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well whatever you'll prob have a zillion more nukes i think im at ~80 dropped rn

leaden onyx
mellow zealot
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something something transition

mellow zealot
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ace 2 :)

mellow zealot
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tried the shturm-s

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first nuke to be fair

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in the shturm*

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right after i had the worst match of my life

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genuinely made me sad

fallen sparrow
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Dont you hate when you didnt see anything

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Poke your turret up just to be shot by an IT1

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Like

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2 feets away

gray thicket
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let mao guide you

versed mica
mellow zealot
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#fucknormandy

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i'd nuke it more often if i could

mellow zealot
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bruh i lost a nuke to a guy who somehow managed to spawn 3 planes in 1 match shit is sad

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just crashed into me

mellow zealot
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i do wish this was for a better vehicle

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cooler but too low BR

😒

swift tartan
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lovely plane

mellow zealot
swift tartan
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You fly high, bomb 4 bases, kill 1-2 planes with your turrets then go back

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Unless you get uptiered to 9.3

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Which is bad

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Since flares barely do anything

frigid carbon
sleek fractal
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Thats what im saying all the time watchit

swift tartan
pseudo zealot
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trying to do air sim battles in war thunder with world war 2 planes in mountains is a... interesting experience

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my ju-87 cant fucking take off proper cause its starved out from air as fuck

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switched to kursk map but the handling still felt very weird, though tbh i am used to flying mig-21 bis in dcs which is why i am ripping the pitch so hard

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(i also switched to a bf-109)

mellow zealot
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Cba to play

swift tartan
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Oh wait it doesn't show the plane

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I am researching the su7

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I was flying the tu95

mellow zealot
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Oh bruh

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Xd

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I thought it was modification research

swift tartan
mellow zealot
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how are there constantly more and more of these

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like the left one i know is CC or i think so atleast

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wow this was a dog shit mathc

sleek fractal
mellow zealot
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goonbait CC yeah ok calm

mellow zealot
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oh he's a shorts merchant that makes sense

swift tartan
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I am sold

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Gooning in war thunder?!

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It has been my dream all alongsnigsmile

mellow zealot
pseudo zealot
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low br air sim on hotas makes me wanna kms

swift tartan
mellow zealot
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i just saved a friendly nuke by shooting down an enemy plane going straight for him with the shturm

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this thing is so fun sometimes

sleek fractal
sleek matrix
mellow zealot
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wow the f3h is so much fucking better than the f104

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i can actually survive an uptier

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genuinely crazy how well this turns for how fat it is

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i think this shit can outturn a yak23 wtf?

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im glazing this thing hard from now on

tardy dome
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it's good in an isolated 1v1, but thats rare in airRB

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i love f104 tho, it's a seal cluber

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get you hands on the F8U asap, such a goated jet

mellow zealot
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f104 might be my most hated jet shit is just not fun at all

mellow zealot
mellow zealot
tardy dome
mellow zealot
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the speed is useless when you just get outsped by everything at your BR anyway

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not mentioning that i had basically constant uptiers

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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they seem theoretically good

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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its early radar s oi dont expect it to work super well

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"early"

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like ground level

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but in the sky i can lock like 9km fairly easy, not like i'll launch from that range

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useful for headons considering it atleast pulls a bit more than 10g

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atleast i can get rid of those mig21s pests

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and 9.0 BR means no 10.3 mig21s

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the f6c is still annoying but meh

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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i'll see how the plane feels when i get the other upgrades

mellow zealot
mellow zealot
tardy dome
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i mean go for it, if the plane looks and feels good to use don't let my or anyone else opinion stop you from playing it

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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i think i just have a specific playstyle no clue i just never found bnz particularly fun

tardy dome
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so for the first 3-4 sec it goes ina straight line

mellow zealot
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not like the aim9b is that much better

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practically same result xd

tardy dome
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true

mellow zealot
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goes faster so you can launch furhter away

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basically negates it

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in theory anyway

tardy dome
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i see, thats why you didn't like f104. I loved the bnz playstyle, f104 was a blast

mellow zealot
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i think the mix of being FORCED to bnz and also the speed not really being a factor unless you get downtiered (i had 1 in i think like 17 matches played)

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huge pain in the ass if ur playing 8.3

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in which i of course get uptiered a lot to 9.3 :)

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(my luck)

tardy dome
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how so? Nothing can touch you if you play your hand right

mellow zealot
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everything will just catch up to you

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the speed is a non factor the only thing that "saves" it is roll

tardy dome
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oh mb, i thought you were talking about 104

mellow zealot
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i am

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i found that the speed doesnt save me at all

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and then half the time i go high exactly to do bnz i just get killed by a mig21s with r3r lol

tardy dome
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when i played 104 i never went high, i stayed low to the ground, circled around and flanked the enemy team

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you don't really need altitude if you are strapped to a rocket

mellow zealot
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i started side climbing and going like 6k max

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slightly better results but ultimately just same shit

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its not a bad plane ig? i just dont like the playstyle

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and i feel the flaws outweigh the quirks

tardy dome
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yeah, f3h suits your playstyle better. It can turn well, the problem is that it bleeds a lot of energy pretty fast

mellow zealot
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well its fat and has a less powerful engine. idk if it can even go mach lol

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i dont mind that much

tardy dome
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dont think it can

mellow zealot
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either way like

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if you can just one circle outturn you just kinda win

tardy dome
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just have to hit your shots

mellow zealot
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ye tho rn my shots are very spread out sometimes lol

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idk if thats a weapon maintenance or new 20mm cannon thing or not

tardy dome
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the cannon is ass

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yeah, get new cannons

mellow zealot
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i'll work towards it but i want the aim7s first

tardy dome
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it will still be all over the place, but it will feel better

mellow zealot
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well it'll have to be for later cuz i have to get back to grinding a different thing (college)

tardy dome
mellow zealot
mellow zealot
tardy dome
mellow zealot
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i still have premium for over half a year so im just grinding what i can and after that i'll just focus on special/prem vehicles

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i have all of US ground except last rank and the xm whatever, the roland one

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wanting to do the same for most other nations

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anyway time to ge tback

tardy dome
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got an ace in ground RB 😭

swift tartan
mellow zealot
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apparently the mig15bis has better energy retention and vertical than the f3h

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fantastic that made me so happy

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this game is so fucking ass

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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any reason to play this tank at all? just seems shit and a stopgap between 8.7 and 9.3

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wow... a thermal (wow)

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(gen 1)

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to be fair this is where the 6b/r should be xd

fallen sparrow
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Still easier to pen than t55 but sometimes its default paint blends in too well

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Other than that I think its equal to M60A3 TTS

mellow zealot
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dont have the stat card to be fair

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idk it just seems meh

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compared to the rest of the israeli tree anyway. seems like the weakest considering the BR

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researching first merkava anyway

mellow zealot
fallen sparrow
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And left me flabbergasted

hybrid scaffold
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why is T58 so amazing aahh

mellow zealot
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I mean to be fair it is just op

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You have at best like what 2 seconds to hit a weakspot on jt

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Like the breech

mellow zealot
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apparently war thunder added completely random gun jamming because my shit jammed without me firing it for more than 1 second

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fuck is this?

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a tu95 just killed himself because he decided to spam chaff and i couldnt lock onto the plane behind him lmao

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(it also had no missiles)

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tu95 players might genuinely be retarded my god

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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bursts of no longer than 1 sec

mellow zealot
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also the aim7s are ass i thought they had proxy explosions but you need direct hits lmao

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i forgot about that

tardy dome
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i was sl disappointed when i got the for the first time, early aim7s are buns

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aim7c i believe, whichever ones are on f3h-2 demon

mellow zealot
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7c yea

pseudo zealot
mellow zealot
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there was a guy wallhacking so hard in my game cant wait to see him get banned lmao

gray thicket
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its probably

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superior chinese spotting technology

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you’re just lacking way behind the chinese mate

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anyway

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CHINA NUMBA ONEπŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³

mellow zealot
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twice..

gray thicket
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yeah chinese soldiers are trained to stabilize the whole cannon with their shoulders

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our training programs are superior!

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anyway

gray thicket
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leo1 nightmare

mellow zealot
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dont got nonna dat

ruby rain
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this thing is already in the game

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idk

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I can clearly see that the turrets are basically the same

sleek fractal
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its 4 vehicles not one

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Why dont you all just ask me first before you all argue about that stuff xD (Pls dont,i just got these myself)

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Nope no B-2

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F-101 Voodoo

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People always forget that Strategic Bombers make no sense except as Event Vehicles and the mentioned on is Techtree so it cant be a B-2

ruby rain
mellow zealot
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maybe if we add another 17 scimitar/fox/BTR/BMD clones we'll have no more ghost shells

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to be fair it would be kind of cool to see bmd-2 with the faster speed

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only that one tho

sleek fractal
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You will never ever have perfect server/player connections

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Not even if we add more Leopard2's for other nations

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(Which Japan will get)

mellow zealot
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i still dont understand how the aim7c with a max speed of mach 3 feels constantly slower than an aim9b even when minimally turning

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this bullshit can't catch up to fucking anything

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2km launch on a slow moving target still cant hit lmao this is a joke

tardy dome
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told you 😭

fallen sparrow
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Why the fuck cant my missile locks on a fucking helicopter

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What the living shit

frozen knoll
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i got my first top tier today πŸ₯³

gray thicket
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why not ztz99

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😑😑😑

mellow zealot
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splendid.. more top tier suffering.... yeeesssss....

sleek fractal
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Russia the most handheld nation in the game that requires no skill to play weirdge

short bolt
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No its the british

sleek fractal
mellow zealot
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after that not really

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also i've noticed i've gotten every mission score task for the kv8 so far without even wanting to except hte first one

πŸ’”

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should i spend GE on that lmao

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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i didnt get to either of the "lower" levels

tardy dome
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600 and you get the tradeable coupon?

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if so i'd say its a no-brainer, sell it later and buy another year of premium/GE when on sale

mellow zealot
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i only have enough for the tank itself idk how much i have for the coupon i ddnt grind it

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dont have time

sleek fractal
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Its gonna be ass cheap cause the KV8 is ass

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Flamethrower is useless and the 45mm gun is shit

fluid trout
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the funny uptier-proof tank

short bolt
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Tf?

cold lichen
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The T18E2 is a tiny beast

mellow zealot
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something really fkn weird happened to me today

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i had a match where all the enemies died in ARB

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and the match just. didnt end

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until like legit 5 mins later

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nobody crashed or anything

crude notch
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Had the same a few times

hollow steeple
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Playing WT while updating to latest gamma.
kekl kv8 is interesting...

fast shore
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ыэ

wintry hearth
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beauty

ruby rain
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plane

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PTUY!

serene birch
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i will not tolerate plane slander

cold lichen
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He's real for that one

short bolt
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Ground rb
looks in
planes

pseudo zealot
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CAS is shit what else is new

ruby rain
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I've explained it many times

sleek fractal
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And ive explained many times how it was without KekSkew

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We had without in the beginning

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It was horseshit camper fest

pseudo zealot
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Ground RB sucks period lol

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Like its literally nothing new no matter is it with or without cas

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Air RB is also just a tdm after tdm

sleek fractal
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Remove CAS,add Infantry kekl get Rpged every 2 seconds

pseudo zealot
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Play enlisted as tankman and you will get the exact experience

sleek fractal
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Enlisted sucks though and is not modern stuff

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Even the Tank models are Arcade

pseudo zealot
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Its whatever tbh, i just play red orchestra instead

sleek fractal
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p!ew

willow heraldBOT
pseudo zealot
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If you are going ew at red orchestra you got no taste

sleek fractal
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It aged like Milk

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The Playerbase is dead and with AI it aint fun

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Rising Storm (same devs) is okay

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Dont know about Rising Storm 2

mellow zealot
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considering buying the f106

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interesting little plane

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the f-6 is so fucking annoying to play against

mellow zealot
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this plane si genuinely worse than the sakeen

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hmm yes i will take a spitfire without turn time but the same fucking DOGSHIT speed

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rank 4 france is so shit

mellow zealot
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the clipped wing spitfires are dogshit

serene birch
mellow zealot
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ATTEMPTING to bnz but i just get outclimbed by everything anyway

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so im forced to turnfight which its literally not made for because its a shit spitfire

serene birch
mellow zealot
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depends on my speed

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10-20

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typically 15+

serene birch
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have you tried a very far sideclimb and just sticking it at like 20+ until youre nearing your stall

mellow zealot
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no

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i guess i can try it once

serene birch
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there are still a couple of plane that will out climb you but in theory theyll be pretty shit turners

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exempt maybe 1-2

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and honestly if youre having shit lobbies try to play like a vulture

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go after things preoccupied at least until youre spaded

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(assuming you dont already have perf mods)

mellow zealot
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4 min wait time gg

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5.7 btw

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and then i instantly get a match

serene birch
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yeah sadly 5.7 is a weird BR

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on the bright side german teams nearly always have 4 288s

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fairly easy kills

mellow zealot
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shits giga fast

serene birch
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fast but thats about it cause while the guns are good they dont have a lot of them and the deadzones are fairly abuseable

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and if theyre gonna put you back in their guns view theyre sacrificing speed to do so

mellow zealot
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ig

serene birch
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i used to abuse 288s with the kikka

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learned how to avoid their deadzones very well in it and itll translate to any plane you can get near them in

mellow zealot
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yeah this thing is fucking ass

mellow zealot
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knowing chinese radar this is gonna be absolutely horrendous

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if this gets proxy its over

sleek fractal
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This thing is planned since 2019

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took them 7 years

gray thicket
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RAHHHH

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CHINA NUMBA ONE

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CHINA IS GROWING

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RAHH

proper stag
wintry hearth
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dev server has sound mods

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πŸ‘€

fluid trout
short bolt
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I think they will add sound mods back in like a week from now

wintry hearth
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hopefully agony

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cant stand bmp3 shitty main gun sound

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literally just sounds like a thump

fallen sparrow
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They already had a Temu Gepard

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Why do they need another one

serene birch
fallen sparrow
sleek fractal
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Next majour update maybe

short bolt
sleek fractal
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Doubt

serene birch
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gaijin would never ever say something and then not do it

short bolt
mellow zealot
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I don't like the T-54s but I also don't want to see T54s facing tiger1

short bolt
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Tiger 2s cant pen t54s frontally btw now imagine the rest of the tanks

pseudo zealot
# short bolt

50% proto tech tree
My brother in christ USSR is no better lol

sleek fractal
mellow zealot
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since hwen does cover take away speed tf

mellow zealot
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1949 is a bit more trolly

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i dont like the t-54s because you can get uptiered to shit like 8.7 or 9.0 anyway

mellow zealot
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this thing feels more like a spitfire than the clipped wing spitfire

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also the engine on this is so fucking stupid

mellow zealot
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got my first 2 kills with the aim7c

shit is only useful against b ombers or legit targets going 300 kph lol

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it actually IS proxy

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its just extremely small proxy

tardy dome
mellow zealot
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the 4km launch was nice

short bolt
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Damn the controversy was bad enough they actually fixed this

mellow zealot
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apparently you can go up there

serene birch
mellow zealot
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????????

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hello?? what

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how am i researching something in a premium vehicle

sleek fractal
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old bug

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not new

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just press finish and be done with it

fallen sparrow
mellow zealot
mellow zealot
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you're still really mainly shooting russian LFPs

copper laurel
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On the other side you have the italian 9.3 prem leo, wich is slightly slower, has 400mm sabot, and no thermal

fallen sparrow
mellow zealot
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Outreloading t72 is always funny

copper laurel
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Top one is the of40, bottom one is the xm1 gm

mellow zealot
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Ig the of40 is better then

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Weird

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Except thr vertical ig

copper laurel
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and its slightly faster

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if you have good aim i guess it would be better

mellow zealot
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i think only shit like the fox apds has trouble going through the turret ring

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you go against any IFV at its BR and you get penned there pretty easily

fallen sparrow
serene birch
hollow steeple
mellow zealot
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i dont think i could hate the meteors more if i wanted to

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these planes are so fucking boring to play

fallen sparrow
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Cuz it reached the point if there is no other word to describe

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How horrendeous it is

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To use it at the beginning

mellow zealot
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but its also at a BR i dotn want to play

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im just doing french planes cuz i wanna try out the 10.0 mirages

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i always heard the mk8 is supposed to be good but its such a boring plane

spark spindle
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Ouragans are much more fun tbh, even the Super mystère was enjoyable to me.

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And Mirage IIIC is a treat

mellow zealot
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played it on israel eand thought it was fucking ass lmao

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md452 is okay

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i need to get engine upgrades and i think i'll enjoy it

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then i'll get the preproduction thing at 8.3 that's a bit faster and the 30s are nice

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the 20mm are so unreliable, had an HEF explode and it just did fucking nothing

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i got a crit or whatever but i think it was just a wing surface thing

mellow zealot
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the fast and big radar missiles look fun

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you can prob make a custom loadout with 3 missiles?

spark spindle
mellow zealot
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dont you get afterburners anyway

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not sure that matters that much

spark spindle
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You do. The booster is more for energy fighting shenanigans. It is pretty powerful at higher altitudes.

mellow zealot
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mm yeah true in high alt i can see it being quite useful

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either way i'll have to grind a bi tmore anyway im like halfway to the 8.3 plane and after i get the f84 or maybe vautour i'll see what i'll want to grind

spark spindle
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Well... it is also true that I really dislike going high and usually just stick to the terrain.

mellow zealot
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meteor was always cool match -> 7 uptiers in a row trolltiny

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not very enjoyable

mellow zealot
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if i see its 11.0 i wont even dare to go high lold

spark spindle
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Oh yeah, absolutely.

mellow zealot
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either way the max BR i really """enjoy"" is 10.3 after that i cba

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adhd gameplay

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i always enjoyed the BR9s

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but its also nice to have good missiles

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i did consider buying the f106

spark spindle
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Pretty much same for me. I love early jets and once the better missiles get introduced, I am out.

mellow zealot
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sadly i sold my t72b arena too fast for 33 and its 40 now :p

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but meh

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also finally sold my p-40c so i have like 60gjn

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weird little plane

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if i really wanna buy smth i'll just sell the AGS

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might actually be wise to do it now who knows maybe they'l lbring it back next crate drop

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my ass is not playing 12.0

spark spindle
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Can't relate, I have never gotten any voucher to sell.

mellow zealot
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i had time to grind sometimes

not this event tho

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mig25 and t72b was worth grinding but i've also grinded the EFV and t86 and that was certainly not as worth it

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i dont even remember grinding the ags

spark spindle
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I would have time but the one time I tried I got burned out in a way that made me feel nothing but apathy for any time limited grinds.

mellow zealot
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oh it certainly isnt fun

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but i mean i also get a way to not spend money on the game

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and still get vics

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i got a years worth of premium for free

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so

spark spindle
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Yeah, that is fair.

mellow zealot
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i technically have another 1,5y now

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if i sold all i had i'd have like... 5 years?

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maybe 6

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with the sales*

spark spindle
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I have gotten mostly everything I want and now just goof around in weird vehicles

mellow zealot
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im getting to that point

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i bought the xm1 and grinded what is essentially the whole of its GRB except the top-top tier

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well, unlocked

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only bought the lav-ad but ehh

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i need to get the rockets and maybe i'll enjoy it

spark spindle
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Those looked fun in clips, yeah.

mellow zealot
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well that's for later

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i gotta lock in again sadly

cloud crystal
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Quick question, can we buy stuff from the shop (golden eagle, vehicle pack...) with the GJN?

sleek fractal
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theres the button

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its for packs,Ge etc

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its not with the other payment options

cloud crystal
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Oh, so good, thank you! I have two cars to sell and I was just hesitating: 3 Tyy

sleek fractal
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Np

mellow zealot
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this entire BR for french planes is SO FUCKING ASS

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they're all so shit my god

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fuck br 7-8 for france

hollow pelican
cloud crystal