🛩war-thunder

[ruby rain]

I will attempt to grind lines 1, 2, 3 of USA air

I already have a P-36G

[ruby rain]

[cold lichen]

I found Shermany in the wild btw!

[serene birch]

this i remember when he got banned

he said some extra shit

he got banned for toxicity as well

cause bro really was your stereotypical toxic wt player

[jaunty condor]

Dude was textbook elitist WT player lol.

[serene birch]

yeeeah and while that’s normal to see on wt i dont blame the mods for not wanting that sorta attitude here. this isnt a wt server

[jaunty condor]

Even if it was normal in WT itself, it's annoying as hell.

[serene birch]

real

[sleek fractal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1e9fu24/overview_of_the_new_bp_vehicles_and_the_alcione_f/?share_id=-iDwqhpCjl-AdaEM8Cw8-&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

[ruby rain]

[sleek fractal]

Again,get the Sholef as tradable coupon

thank me later

[ruby rain]

for that I'd need to buy the BP

[sleek fractal]

OR you have GC leftover from selling another coupon

Which with you can buy GE

its like a stock market

endless Money if you do it right

[random bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792501875840385034/1002713242164006942/War_Thunder_-_Em_batalha_2022-07-28_01-01-47.mp4?ex=669e3cba&is=669ceb3a&hm=2ccc0994f7aa82f77d131d25a85fa6afce2484ba3e4596c332dc69f8ed9bcf5c&

[ruby rain]

I don't

[sleek fractal]

Disco disco party party

[ruby rain]

Sergey still drunk as shit from last night

[eternal zenith]

it's true that Israel preems will sell for higher than soviet ones but still salty they didn't do the V2 and guaranteed they won't add APFSDS

[soft oracle]

Can you buy me battlepass???

[sleek fractal]

cant be gifted

[soft oracle]

Excuses

Gift 2500 GE

and I will gift you Passat 5+ 1.9 TDI in return

[sleek fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/nikita-buyanov-tarkov-escape-from-tarkov-gif-15175909203913821452

[crude ruin]

you play boats?

[ruby rain]

lol nah

[crude ruin]

damn

you got fucked by gajin

i know that feeling to good 😢

[sleek fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnjCesr13uM&ab_channel=Laffetie

like yeah.lel. easy RP

[ruby rain]

But I did get one for a plane

Which I am using

Pretty poggers

P-36A

[crude ruin]

i onced get for tank i was using

it was epic

the jpz hot

[ruby rain]

Zamn

[crude ruin]

yeah

and once i opend the 500Ge box

i was drunk so i said fuck it lets go gambling

from the first one i got back my 500ge

and from the 2 i got the premium do 335

so i was happy

😄

[ruby rain]

I mean jackpot

No?

[sleek fractal]

Yes.

[serene birch]

i keep getting talismans for shit i’ve already spaded in trees ive already maxed out :(

[soft oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtt2HrB6e5k

:D

[serene birch]

as goofy as that is its sorta sick

[random bobcat]

@sleek fractaldo you know the wt discord leaks the vehicles upcoming to the game?

[sleek fractal]

No

I dont care

It will be stupid stuff nobody needs anyway that results in more powercreep

[sleek fractal]

Im very happy that we are far off of that bullshit

[modern otter]

Cobra is quite good

Anything after cobra however just can't compete with the mustang from my personal experience

And I meant in dogfighting and general versatility

[ruby rain]

P-36G Hawk
P-39 is Cobra

[modern otter]

Whoops, I'm stupid sorry

Also got a question: so at rank 6 us gets some questionable machinery. Any advice which would be least painful to grind 8.3 with?

[eternal zenith]

F-35 photoshop edition?

[ruby rain]

[strange mango]

how do you get the in depth veiw

[sleek fractal]

Its in the replay upper bar

left to the slow speed button

[strange mango]

dope

https://youtu.be/O-hqnMN8oC4

also here a sick shot i hit

[eternal zenith]

The M1's darts are point and click up to 1km that's how

[strange mango]

yes they are very nice ive hit 3km shots with them

[eternal zenith]

beauty of anti heli are the proxy HEAT rounds

makes a cool ring explosion

[strange mango]

yes i used 120s before base m1 Abrams proxy heat so good for taking down helis

[spark spindle]

That is one sexy dorito aircraft

[eternal zenith]

real shame they never built anything close, like the FB-22 or X-44 Manta concepts

So question to y'all: Should there be more spots on the map that would allow players to gain a vertical advantage?

[sleek fractal]

Only if people stop complaining about CAS

cause in this spot nobody will kill you except CAS if your smart.

[eternal zenith]

hold up, people complain because at this point there's no real reason to have it

as in they block or red out areas that could be used for advantage anyways

[short forum]

hi war thunder players (with rizz)

[sleek fractal]

Because people complained Maps to big

The community is just dumb

[eternal zenith]

who are those people

[sleek fractal]

thats the whole issue

im so glad they downvoted those camo nets and shit

that stuff hilariously BAD

and in the beginning they voted FOR IT

[eternal zenith]

meanwhile gai reworks the hundredth map to make it so you can't fart in spawn without the other team smelling it

[eternal zenith]

Oh I remember that now

turn it into fortnite for gods sake

The ammo box concept is dumb too, but I still believe a resupply mechanic would be interesting

[sleek fractal]

"a resupply mechanic"

did you ever stand in a capture point ?

[eternal zenith]

I think I made a forum post about it a couple years ago, deleted by the CM but my suggestion was that certain types of IFV or engineering type vehicles could act as a supply chain off cap point

yeah maps we have right now don't allow for this

[sleek fractal]

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You can resupply in a cap

since years

nearly a decade

all you gotta do is stand in there still

[eternal zenith]

I mean allow for a supply chain type mechanic

[sleek fractal]

Thats easily solved

make a dynamic refill area that switches

You got A

no refill area

Enemy got B

Refill area towards your spawn

You got C

Enemy has refill area towards his spawn at C

[eternal zenith]

the whole point of logistics would be to be able to hold strategic points, entrenched positions etc.

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but you can refill at the point

so it would make no sense putting one there

[eternal zenith]

I know that's how it currently is

I'm trying to convey the idea of a different type of match

[sleek fractal]

theres so many solutions that make sense

[sleek fractal]

easily solved with dynamic refill points

Or make it an Airdrop

we got arty already

[eternal zenith]

what does that solve? dynamic refill is just what we have right now but more annoying

air drop maybe

[sleek fractal]

The current system stays

it gets added on top

how is it annoying to have more areas to restock ?

Especialy if it helps you TO DEFEND A SPOT

or take one

[eternal zenith]

the way you explained it made me think you want the refill points to change during a match

[sleek fractal]

Yes how they should to direct the player to the active action

[eternal zenith]

or did you mean additional supply spots on top of ABC

[sleek fractal]

i already said ADDED ON TOP

not replacing anything

it gets additionaly added

they wont remove resupply at caps either for the ammo boxes lol

[eternal zenith]

added on top can mean a lot in this context, for all I know you mean a new game mode

[sleek fractal]

were talking about a game mechanic and how to improve it .....

Your overthinking

[eternal zenith]

Maybe you're underthinking?

[sleek fractal]

Nah cause the whole thing is to improve it

As said Gaijin wants to improve it with giving certain vehicles the option to place ammo boxes for themself

[eternal zenith]

ok let's take a map as an example, a classic

[sleek fractal]

not replace resupply

[eternal zenith]

poland?

[sleek fractal]

how many cap points ?

3 or 1

1 give the attacking team 2 resupply points

[eternal zenith]

let's take eastern europe as a reference

[sleek fractal]

thats not poland

[eternal zenith]

yeah I said eastern europe

[sleek fractal]

yeah wait il show you my idea

let me draw

let me cook

LEMME COOK

[eternal zenith]

in this map you have 2 major flanking positions right? the plateau overlooking red and the field below C. Most of the town is just a cqc brawl with people taking shots at either spawn

[sleek fractal]

for example like this

dont say it looks like a penis

i dare you

[eternal zenith]

so if both points are capped you get additional supply points for the opposing team?

[sleek fractal]

ye

[eternal zenith]

like a handicap

[sleek fractal]

for your team cause your at advantage

[eternal zenith]

First thought is, are supply points necessary in this map?

[sleek fractal]

Are ammo boxes ?

[eternal zenith]

not really

[sleek fractal]

Thats what they need to figure out since map balance is shit

[eternal zenith]

on any map if we're being honest

[sleek fractal]

especialy SINCE map balance is shit

Did you read what the ammo boxes will do ?

[eternal zenith]

now if we take this map, the circled parts are rarely played

[sleek fractal]

the circled parts is where the campers sit

theres always 1 or 2 people

[eternal zenith]

I think ammo boxes are a shit idea

[sleek fractal]

The circled areas are not rarely played.

Putting a refill spot there would reward camping-

and spawn sniping

you can shoot

[eternal zenith]

they are being used but it's not like you actively fight over them like you do with the cap points, naturally

[sleek fractal]

like literaly

thats why this map is so shit

Red spawn is always fucked smh

[eternal zenith]

I mean if we go that route then same can be said for blue

man this map is shit. why did I chose this

[sleek fractal]

nah blue has better cover here

Theres many one sided maps where on spawn is just horrible

Lets just say ... whatever were discussing

nothing will change the real problems of this game

[eternal zenith]

I kinda lost my train of thought

[sleek fractal]

one death leavers in Premiums and low tier trolls in higher tiers

also shitty playerbase

that all will never change

[eternal zenith]

what's the issue with low tier being used high tier?

besides the team disadvantage I mean

[sleek fractal]

Its useless

God mode ? Yeah sure lol those few SL

you get no reward neither RP or real SL for kills.

Except for God mode which is an ancient medal for Air when we had Tier 1-20

it was never ment for that.

[eternal zenith]

I think that's taking it too serious, like the main reason I bring a low tier tank into rank V-VII is because it's actually fun

[sleek fractal]

Sure and i surely cant have fun with a 15cm gun on its BR

Issue is the skill level of these players is absolute dogshit

And theres already a MM blocking mechanic in this game if the BR is higher than 1 in difference

they just need to apply it

[eternal zenith]

What would be the drawback of rewarding players with a BR disadvantage from getting adjusted SL / RP gain?

[sleek fractal]

There is no reward.

[eternal zenith]

bring a Pz IV into a MBT match and slay a couple high tier tanks? That speaks of skill, doesn't it?

[sleek fractal]

They wont do this,theres severe penalties for a reason

[sleek fractal]

No.

One dumbass is luckier than the other

[eternal zenith]

so it all doesn't matter then?

I'd say T-90 vs Leo 2 fights take less skill than T-34 vs Pz IV fights

I get it that's kinda the whole point of having the fancy optics, laser rangers etc

My main point I'm trying to bring is to let people be creative.

[sleek fractal]

Yeah,let them be creative without handicapping the team

Cause most people dont have the skill to be creative

Or have an intend to troll

Pe8 at 13.7 huurrrr durrr funnnyyyyy

[eternal zenith]

"the team" is something I find ridiculous anyways. You get paired with random idiots all the time, there's not going to be a chance to have a team most of the time

would be a different story if you had the same lineup of people for multiple stages

[sleek fractal]

Core issue of this community

[eternal zenith]

I think that could be worked around tho. Have some way of sticking together, similar how other titles did it

[sleek fractal]

Still,you cant carry 8 Idiots with a 4 man most of the times.Except in Air

[sleek fractal]

Enlisted does it very well

But people dont wanna win in WT they still think one death leaving is more rewarding than 15 minutes of playing while its obviously isnt

It really isnt

[eternal zenith]

see I think that could be changed if you had something like a team vote or smth, multi stage matches with the same lineup with bad players being kicked off and rerolled

[sleek fractal]

Like MWO

Thats what i would like for map rotation etc

[eternal zenith]

no idea about mwo

[sleek fractal]

3 maps,you can vote for them and if your map doesnt get selected your vote counts more up to 5 times

[eternal zenith]

but you get the idea, right? 3 map lineup, same team. maybe some balancing inbetween

[sleek fractal]

And you can choose to play further or change your mech

[eternal zenith]

yeah sounds fun

[sleek fractal]

Yep basicly mwo

Except mwo is niche

But the system works well

Its really fun

[eternal zenith]

if it was similar to this then I'd understand people cry about teams. In the current state it's just silly

[sleek fractal]

You play a shitty map once or twice but then your vote weighs so much that you usualy get a liked map

Iirc its also 12v12

So it just works

[eternal zenith]

btw. do you think the devs have some emotional connection to some of the community hated maps and that's the reason they don't allow for more control of which one to play?

[sleek fractal]

Probably

That white fortress map is in the rework

[eternal zenith]

"I worked hard on it, can't you appreciate how nice the town looks?"

[sleek fractal]

I hate ot with a passion

[eternal zenith]

I'm looking forward to it haha

I did hate it when it was in rotation but looking back it was pretty nice

[sleek fractal]

Spawncamping was fun

[eternal zenith]

I think I still played the puma on it

right, sit on top of the tower points and look straight into spawn

[sleek fractal]

Not that,just left or right inside the outter wall or outside of it

[eternal zenith]

💩

[ruby rain]

my progress so far

[ruby rain]

I'm slowly learning

[sharp star]

you should grind the fourth tree

im stuck at 6.3 because i didnt and i need more vehicles purchased to progress

[sleek fractal]

Thats what ive told him initialy

1,2 and 4th row

[jaunty condor]

Correction: "Someone ELSE I contracted worked hard on this map (they didn't know they were making it for a game) Can't you appreciate how nice it looks?"

[eternal zenith]

Yeah I'm thinking there's some booty involved, like they let some mid, wanabe map designer do the map to score a date

[jaunty condor]

Lmao.

I'm pretty sure they just outsource the Map development to random people.
"Here, can you make a pretty map for our game?"
"Sure, what game is it?"
"That doesn't matter. Just make it."

[opaque mica]

Behold
The wall of Maus

[eternal zenith]

We been talking about entrenchment and stuff but with the maus you're really just a moveable piece of cover

[opaque mica]

They stood there the whole match

And they were very helpful, actually

[jaunty condor]

Moveable until you're dead.

Lol.

[opaque mica]

Still moveable, just with a bit more effort

On an unrelated note, I love the AMX-10P

Shit's funny

[eternal zenith]

yeah, then it's just a solid cover

Even the thickest AP rounds don't pen enough to go through maus and armor

[ruby rain]

research the foldered ones

[sharp star]

does that actually work i have never thought of that lmao

[sleek fractal]

Yes

[sharp star]

damn nice

ill grind only 3 lines then

[ruby rain]

I have counted the planes in lines 1, 2, 3 and they are enough for every rank

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but line 4 is way better than line 3

[ruby rain]

why?

[sleek fractal]

I explained to you why

4th line is god tier CAS

A-10s,A4,A7 etc

[ruby rain]

Im more interested in compensating for USA's lack of useful AA

[eternal zenith]

M247 exists

50 on pretty much every tank

[ruby rain]

I'm not there yet

[ruby rain]

If having 4 of them on a 3.7 plane is described as "disappointing", what use is 1 at 8.0?

and in my experience, is quite random if it'll do anything at all

[jaunty condor]

M247 is great.

You ALWAYS see them in SQB's.

I think we just ran against a team with 2 M247's, a Bagel, and a Type 93.
Insane AA net with that comp.

[eternal zenith]

It's so cool when people organize a AA cover

[jaunty condor]

It's required in SQB lol.

Scimi's and Su-7's will pulverize any ground team without AA.

[serene birch]

stop spreading yo disinformation 😭😭😭

[serene birch]

man is either trolling or behind on the meta 4th line aint worth it anymore

1st and 2nd lines are the only ones id worry about and id heavily lean into the first

get the F-84s in the 2nd line and maybe the F-4C and then move to the F-5E and use that until the F-16s

[ruby rain]

aw man...
it'll be a while

this is where I'm at

[serene birch]

tbh P-47 and P-63s are good for lower CAS

same with the corsairs

i used the D-28 as CAS for so long

i used it even at 5.7

until I got the P-47M

[ruby rain]

I jus wnna grind air to around 8.0 so I can attempt air-superiority in ground battles

[serene birch]

not into CAS?

[ruby rain]

"Don't do onto others what you don't want to be done onto you" typa thing

[serene birch]

valid then the first and second line are still good

but you can definitely venture into the naval shit

F8U with the BR changes is back to being goated

sabres arent as good as they once were with the FM change but they can still go pretty fast so i use them to just fly by shoot and fly away

[ruby rain]

bote

wait

[serene birch]

naval planes you doofus

[ruby rain]

right

[serene birch]

[ruby rain]

F9F's?

[serene birch]

i mean fletchers are good aerial superiority but thats a whole new boat

[serene birch]

same thing as the sabres

just get your speed up and go in shoot once and bug out

rinse and repeat

theyre decently speedy and the cannons are great but theyre gonna get memes by a mig-15 or mig-17

[ruby rain]

Interesting that you say that

I'm having a bad time in the P-51C-10

[serene birch]

i dont like the C but i love all the Ds

theyre good energy fighters tho

[ruby rain]

It's supposedly a boom-n-zoom'er but it hardly has any boom and the zoom works only if the enemy actually stops chasing you

It's described as "outstanding" in the wiki but man...

I don''t see howq

[serene birch]

i also dont really enjoy it for the same reasons

ive done well but that was me sweating and picking my battles wisely

[ruby rain]

I eventually got kinda good at the P-36A bc it can turnfight

[serene birch]

ye P-36 is great i love it

you might like the corsairs tho

given those a go?

they can turn pretty well and have some good engines

[ruby rain]

ok

[serene birch]

just use flaps and dont rate fight

you can turn a couple of times before you drop speed

still same idea just energy fight

[ruby rain]

F4U-1A?

[serene birch]

yeah i love that thing

2.7 beast

also later down the line F8Fs are good

especially the one with the cannons

small, fast, turns suspiciously well for how fat it is

[ruby rain]

I just landed onto a carrier for the 1st time

in test flight

[serene birch]

very based

very sad carriers are basically non existent in air rb :(

the maps that have them are rare in the rotation

bring back the constant US vs Japan maps pls gaijin

[ruby rain]

how 2 use flaps?

[serene birch]

for the corsair? dont be above 400kph

raised flaps are the regular state of flaps after taking off so if you wanna return to normal pop it to raised

some aircraft have combat which are designed for dogfighting moments

also gaijin when the fuck are we getting the B-25B modified to be like the Doolittle version

slap it at 2.7

no guns hella fuel and only 4 bombs

[ruby rain]

why did this go gray??

its wasnt even overheating

[ruby rain]

And what does that mean?

[serene birch]

means you either ran out of WEP

or youve exceeded the altitude your WEP works at

(yes aircraft can run out of wep, at least some can)

[serene birch]

.

[opaque mica]

I didn't need those anyway

[fluid dragon]

25

[sleek fractal]

Your just bad

[sleek fractal]

Its just that Bullpups never got nerfed and in general most of the line is pretty enjoyable as CAS.Especialy the A-10 on its still to low BR with Aim9L

The Super Harrier was nice til the BR changes

[serene birch]

https://tenor.com/view/area88-area-88-anime-plane-anime-f8-crusader-gif-8585297325852920097

https://tenor.com/view/mig19s-gif-25536249

both of these would like to know your A-10s location

[serene birch]

no those are just generally bad 😭😭 the only one you see is the A-10 and A-4E cause muh premium/squadron vehicle

therefore the brainless american main wannabe chimps flock to it

[sleek fractal]

If you break it down to that,thats true

Especialy in AirRB

[serene birch]

you dont even gotta break it down

most players dont play them its only the people who first get them and try them out that really do

that or people trying to spade them

[sleek fractal]

Or the few that can work with them

The techtree i mean

Fuck the prem A10

[serene birch]

the A-7s are genuinely bad so you cant really "work" with them at the BR theyre at

A-4B is meh its just a shittier A-4E at the same BR so you might as well just wait out the squadron points for it

A-10 late is 10.7 which for the speed it goes? it aint great

[sleek fractal]

Same as the SU's

[serene birch]

what

Su-25s are faster than the A-10 wdym

[sleek fractal]

Let me write

Compared to fighters the speed is shit,yet you can lob all your ATGMs outside of AA range

Yes you can do that with the F4C too

But eh.... F4C

Shouldnt be at that BR

[serene birch]

these at 10.7

[sleek fractal]

111A is horriblr

[serene birch]

A-6E is also slow but it gets far better armament

[sleek fractal]

Tram is also shit

[serene birch]

its fast and has CMs

[sleek fractal]

Chaff

[serene birch]

no?

its got flares broski

thats the F-105

[sleek fractal]

Since when?

[serene birch]

since always

the F-105 only has chaff

[sleek fractal]

Ok still nobody plays it

[serene birch]

cause its at the end of the bomber line which is p much pointless

[sleek fractal]

At least i havent seen any lately

[serene birch]

also for the tram? its got a magic trick up its sleeve

[sleek fractal]

Also its fat and meh

[serene birch]

no bombload it outruns the F-16A

max fuel

[sleek fractal]

Whats the point of it ?

Spawning without anything

[serene birch]

go in use your CCIP/RP to drop bombs and fuck outta there before anyone can touch you

if they try? flares

[sleek fractal]

AA touches you

Ground AA

[serene birch]

dump them and run dude. you dont HAVE to keep them just because you dont have a target

fly high

[sleek fractal]

Nah lol

[serene birch]

the thing gets 8 3000lbers and you get bullpups too if thats your cup of tea

[sleek fractal]

I wanna see you in 6km hight finding out whats friendly and what not

[serene birch]

woah almost like 3000lbers negate the whole accuracy thing

look at where the fighting is roughly taking place

[sleek fractal]

On the ground

[serene birch]

drop 1 or 2

yes?

traceers

[sleek fractal]

And miss

You think cat plays at 4k?

[serene birch]

thats a forgiving amount of room for death

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but you mean fly high.

You need to be at 10km to avoid AA

[serene birch]

yeah well youre kinda boned regardless becasue russian aa

but also

theres a pretty cool tactic which works in WT

lobbing

[sleek fractal]

Requires skill

[serene birch]

not with CCIP it dont 😭

[sleek fractal]

On which map can you do it

Do tell

[serene birch]

literally ANY???

[sleek fractal]

Theres like 2

[serene birch]

it tells you where your bombs are gonna land

[sleek fractal]

Noooo i mean your picture

[serene birch]

you look at it. you go "ok" and pull up, wait for the marker to line up as youre looping and ditch bombs

that picture is just a general example

[sleek fractal]

Yeah which doesnt work

[serene birch]

it works on flat terrain because youre then flying AWAY from the spaa which greatly reduces their range because they have to fly to catch up and not intercept

yes it do my brochacho, if you suck at it it may just be a skill issue

[sleek fractal]

Like what is this discussion.Cat is a complete Air noob

[serene birch]

woah almost like practice makes perfect

telling him not to do xyz because hes bad is just like saying

"dont make a meringue cause you cant"

??? give it a go until you get it

[sleek fractal]

I did not but he told you he dont want to do sweaty cas

[serene birch]

yeah and besides i was just responding to you about CAS and the A-7s and etc not being a good choice

[sleek fractal]

Thats why i recommended the A-10 late line

[serene birch]

cause theyre not

[sleek fractal]

Literaly just point and click from distance

[serene birch]

wow the A-10 late doesnt even get GBUs

thats.... sad as fuck

[serene birch]

mavericks are very dependent on open maps

get a city map? have fun with that

[sleek fractal]

Just go up at 11km

[serene birch]

A-10s cannot climb well enough and do not sustain enough energy to go up and go down

yeah spend 10 mins climbing to 10km just to dive and lose like 1.5km height each time

[sleek fractal]

But city maps also beat tge purpose of lobbing

Especialy if buildinga block your explosive range

So eh

[serene birch]

not really because bomb timers exist you odnt have to have your bombs go off when they hit the ground

they can hit a building and fall

your maverick hits a building and goes pop

[sleek fractal]

Not the point?

[serene birch]

bombs are far more reliable on most maps even though you get fewer

[sleek fractal]

Not since the buff

[serene birch]

consistent is much better than having more

[sleek fractal]

Mavericks kill consistant now

[serene birch]

yeah unles they miss, fall short, hit an obstacle

[sleek fractal]

Just like bombs

[serene birch]

it takes some shocking amount of anti-skill to miss with a GBU

unless youre using the A-10 which is too slow to actually use GBUs from anything other than height

but thats why the A-6E is better with its AGM/GBUs

cause its a funny lil hybrid of the GBU-III with a rocket engine on it

[sleek fractal]

I lost the point of this whole discussion.Like it started with grind these 3 lines in the TT then your good,now it is about the A6E is best CAS

[serene birch]

im not saying its the best CAS

its better than the A-10

you came here responding to me saying the A-10 line is the best CAS line, which its not

[sleek fractal]

Imho it is

You got a different opinion

Fair

[serene birch]

its technically THE CAS line but most other things around those BRs are just better to use

[sleek fractal]

A6E is not worth buying.

[serene birch]

no cause you know why? who needs a slow ass CAS plane that is useless the second its out of ordinance when you can play something .3 BR higher than can be an absolute monster at air superiority

[serene birch]

over the A-10 early? it sure is

[sleek fractal]

Nah

Late

TT

[serene birch]

that one only gets AGMs lol

[sleek fractal]

And?

Your so trimmed on "whats best"

[serene birch]

on the A-10 the AGMs are really not good

[sleek fractal]

The best is the thing that makes fun to play

[serene birch]

yeah cause ur saying its the best CAS at that BR but its not

[sleek fractal]

I think it is cause its a lot of fun

[serene birch]

ok then state you have the MOST fun with it, not that its THE BEST

[sleek fractal]

Il do next time

I still think its the best

[serene birch]

if i came in saying the BT-7 is THE BEST tank to use at 11.7 cause i have more fun with that than any top tier tank

you'd say i was wrong too

[sleek fractal]

Id say your trolling

And that they should enforce the mm restriction

[serene birch]

they shouldnt

thats just a fun police cope

[sleek fractal]

They should,its already ingame

[serene birch]

and i thought you were all about fun

[serene birch]

not bringing squadmates

[sleek fractal]

God mode is a relict of tier 1-20 times

[serene birch]

and you can always uptier yourself by bringing a higher tier plane

[sleek fractal]

You can downtier yourself in Arcade with a trick

[serene birch]

i mean if it was a relic they wouldnt clearly state BR in it

[sleek fractal]

I dont know if it was Naval or Sim but the restriction there is a good one

[serene birch]

if it was kill a vehicle X ranks above your own then yeah fair it'd prolly be a solid argument

but gaijin has put a tiny amount of effort into changing the text

[sleek fractal]

Il explain it that way,if it was a valid thing and not just for the medal why do they heavily penalise you for doing it?

[serene birch]

sim air has X.X-X.X but its been that was since sim has become the thing its been for yeeears

[serene birch]

they really dont?

[sleek fractal]

They do

[serene birch]

30k for 1 kill on a higher BR vehicle isnt a penalty lol

[serene birch]

yeah thats to prevent you from researching all the way to tier viii by playing only 1.0 lineups

[sleek fractal]

Would make more with few proper kills on that BR due modifiers

[sleek fractal]

Already can be prevented with modifirrs

[serene birch]

30k is the award itself not counting the stack of the actual kill as well

[serene birch]

that image you posted IS the modifier

[sleek fractal]

One kill gives 30k everything further gives nothing

[serene birch]

yeah so you dont have a Pz II steamroll 4 unaware IFVs and getting 120k in 1 swoop

[sleek fractal]

YES thats what i mean.You get with a reserve a few 100 rp at most without penalty

[serene birch]

its a fair reward that doesnt overdo it

[sleek fractal]

Thats the point,if you make kills with a BR specific vehicle you get more out of it

Like 30k is nothing

[serene birch]

that picture is about researching higher tier vehicles with low and vice versa, what i already said. it stops you from researching leopard 2a7s with pz ii lineups

because people would just sealclub

[serene birch]

i mean to f2ps it can help

[sleek fractal]

You dont get it?

[serene birch]

i literally already said it man

[sleek fractal]

Leo2a7 1200% modifier pz2 120% modifier

[serene birch]

yes.

because it scales with your rank with the way theyve coded the game

[sleek fractal]

That pz2 gets a few hundred RP at most -90% like literaly nothing

[serene birch]

if they just showed both giving you 120% people would complain their pz ii doesnt earn the same as their leo 2 despite the fact they technically would be respectively

RELATIVE it gives the same reward

they just bump the numbers up to give you neuron activations when you grind cause bigger number = better. borderlands does it too

[sleek fractal]

The point is its literaly useless doing it..... just for that 30k? Could aswell remove it

[serene birch]

no? you dont earn 30k sl with the regular kill itself, its the award of killing a much more advanced vehicle

the point is to reward the "skill" involved (if there is any or not is debatable and highly dependant on the situation)

[sleek fractal]

You earn way more actualy playing towards winning and making more kills

Like those Bt7 or puma first spawns for a cap are stupid

Yes you do it different

[serene birch]

they mostly do it for the SP to get into aircraft

[sleek fractal]

Yes your more skilled than 120% of the players

No most players are dumb and one death leaving

[serene birch]

most of the premium ones yeah. and the lvl 5s that are dragged into the top tier matches

[sleek fractal]

No its contraproductive cause it aint contributing to better gameplay

[serene birch]

i dont even care about 1 death leavers anymore too much effort to stress about it

i do as best as i can and get to the next match

[serene birch]

not to you sure but im sure theyre having a blast

but war thunder stopped being a genuine team game a long time ago

[sleek fractal]

Yeah while the rest suffers under it

Cause trolling is fun

[serene birch]

yeah it is and if gaijin encourages it who cares

at least they let us have fun

would you rather them hold your hand and tell you what you can and cannot play every waking moment of WT

[sleek fractal]

Rather toxic

[serene birch]

i play games with friends to have fun man not to win

im not getting anything out of sweating WT

i dont get paid

if it was the esports competitions then yeah fair if 1 of their teammates ruined it for the rest of them

but at the end of the day if you lose a match. what really happens

[sleek fractal]

Me neither.i just wish for a better experience and removing the trolls is a goid step

[serene birch]

subjective

more fun for you. not for some

double edged sword my broski

[sleek fractal]

Ruining the fun for trolls

Nothing lost

Just as the CAS crybabies

[serene birch]

nah wt is already toxic bro i dont want csgo levels of toxicity where everyone is tryharding 24/7

"wah wah wah youre doing SHIT votekick" because someone isnt taking their role 100% serious

[sleek fractal]

Its a comparison

[serene birch]

seriously what do you lose by losing a match

[sleek fractal]

My time which is already wasted since its WT

[serene birch]

ok if youre so concerned about "wasting time" maybe ditch video games as a hobby as a whole

in fact ditch ALL hobbies as a whole

focus on nothing but your career

[sleek fractal]

Nah cause hobbies are not always time wasting

You can create stuff

[serene birch]

yeah but 99% of the time that stuff does not get recognized

so statisically its not important, especially not compared to a career

[sleek fractal]

It does especialy on Etsy when you sell it

Theres really good stuff

[serene birch]

oh yeah cause etsy sellers have such a good track record of making it big

[sleek fractal]

Its a hobby

[serene birch]

yeah as i said its not recognized 99% of the time. especially not in compared to your career

[sleek fractal]

Gettimg recognised doesnt mean you make it big

[serene birch]

if youre so worried about "wasting time" give it all up. most hobbies are meant to fill your time that you have to waste

why care when it gets wasted

[sleek fractal]

My time gets now wasted since i gotta go back to work

[serene birch]

yes it does. you make it big and either become popular or you get money. or both. both very important in human brain

[serene birch]

quit your job. live off the grid

then youll have all the time i nthe world

[sleek fractal]

Thats a weird perspective

As if people cant be happy with the smallest things

[serene birch]

making it big is making it big

being successful is a different thing

but seriously why even care about your time being wasted when you know your time is being "wasted" playing wt

oh no you have to play a game you clearly enjoy

oh noooo

[sleek fractal]

We talked about recognition

Not making it big or being successfull

[serene birch]

making it big is being recognized/famous my gamer

[sleek fractal]

Also i love my job my statement was obvious sarcasm

[serene birch]

being successful is achieving your goals

[sleek fractal]

Lol no

[serene birch]

yes it is

[sleek fractal]

Recognition is already being happy that somebody is buying the stuff you make as a hobby lol

[serene birch]

im sorry but youre not "recognized" for your work if 5 people buy your product on etsy

[sleek fractal]

Your recognised by those 5 people

[serene birch]

theres a reason theres a whole thing called "recognized brands"

[sleek fractal]

If your not happy with it thats your issue

[serene birch]

its not the same recognized we're tlaking about

[sleek fractal]

Some people are

[serene birch]

yes english is dumb but sadly thats the way my language be

[sleek fractal]

Your talking about*

[serene birch]

well you responded to it so it does infact make it "we"

[sleek fractal]

Thats why i took Etsy as an example

[serene birch]

being recognized and being recognized sounds the same but is very different in things like that

you can be recognized at work for things you do and yeah thats recognition. you selling 5 pairs of genericplastic is not recognition

its acknowledgement

[sleek fractal]

Mhhhh na

That makes less sense than recognition

Translated in my understanding and the meaning of words

[serene birch]

mostly cause english is a dumb as hell language but thats the way it is

english is great definitely not 3 languages in a trenchcoat pretending to be its own

[serene birch]

recognized especially in terms of "success" is like being idk crocs for example. theyre a recognized company. you could sell 100 pairs of shoes and be acknowledged by people but lets be real youre not gonna be recognized

think of it this way, someone sees a sign of the crocs brand on a billboard theyre gonna go: "oh they make those foam shoes"

they see your own branding and they go "who what"

while YES technically those 100 people recognize your shoe, it doesnt make it recognized

[ruby rain]

True

[ruby rain]

Idk what the TRAM is like to use but it's a fucking bastard to deal with from the ground. By the time you detect it, it's already flying away and a bomb is halfway to your head

[sleek fractal]

In return it has no guns or proper defense vs a fighter

[serene birch]

it literally has flares and aim-9ls too

[serene birch]

banaynays finally acquired

[sleek fractal]

I obviously wrote gun as proper defense cause 2xaim9l and flares dont hekp you vs that F8U

Or any radar missile

Or radar slaved IR missile

Or front aspect fired missile

Or me

Or you

Its funny that you should see a pattern by now

Everytime i write i either have a break or being lazy at work

[serene birch]

the a-10 doesnt help you against the f8u either tho

OVERKILL

[sleek fractal]

But you got a gun

[opaque mica]

Puma (Sd.Kfz.234/2) is the only "light tank" in the german tech tree in the BR range between 3.7 and 6.7 that can perform scouting. The next tank in that line with the same capabilities is LeKPz M41, but it's less mobile. There's a 4(6) gap of tanks between those two. If you play light tanks as a recon, Puma is literally the only vehicle at your disposal for that role for a long time, until you get put into something that I personally believe is inferior in that role

[sleek fractal]

Why would i take a fucking Puma into 11.7?????????

[opaque mica]

Because it's fast

[sleek fractal]

Tell me

No

[opaque mica]

Yes

[sleek fractal]

Its bullshit lol

[opaque mica]

In 11.7 you die to one hit anyway, might as well drive fast doing it

[sleek fractal]

Yeah might as well get no rewards while playing

[opaque mica]

At 11.7 I no longer go in for the rewards

[sleek fractal]

I do because when i play that BR to unlock other vehicles that high or something they added later

[opaque mica]

234/2 is also the most "advanced" wheeled vehicle in the German tree, if we not count FlaRakRad

[sleek fractal]

?????

[opaque mica]

Nevermind, there is another one

Damn, this game changed in those 2 years I didn't play

[sleek fractal]

A lot

[opaque mica]

Wouldn't say that

[sleek fractal]

Like your slower with tge puma than my 2A7

Especialy uphill and crossroads

[opaque mica]

234/2 goes up to 90

[sleek fractal]

Not crossroads

[opaque mica]

[sleek fractal]

You said 2 years

[opaque mica]

It still goes up to 90

[sleek fractal]

You just not crossroads

On poland maybe

If you go to A

Where your dead anyway cause no cover

[opaque mica]

More or less 2 years, last I played actively was the Drone Age update

[sleek fractal]

Yeah nah they changed wheeled vehicles a lot

[opaque mica]

The only thing I noticed is that now I need to really gain some speed to climb

[sleek fractal]

You can even loose your wheels fully now

[opaque mica]

Also the wheels get shot off instead of going flat

Ye

Which is

Super funny

#🛩war-thunder message

[sleek fractal]

Its funny that you loose the EBR metal wheels

Exactly

[opaque mica]

How many spare wheels do my guys carry

[sleek fractal]

All of them

[opaque mica]

[ruby rain]

supplied by the imaginary logistics

[opaque mica]

I carry the entire supply of french spare wheels

[serene birch]

:3333 gunnn

[opaque mica]

Anyway, while bringing 234/2 to 11.7 is a bit silly (but still works, because fuck you that's why), my main point was for bringing it to up to 6.7 / 7.7

[sleek fractal]

Ru257

I dont play those BR's and if i do ive got the removed 3

Panther 2 my beloved

[opaque mica]

I mostly play at around 5-7, because that's where the good shit is

[sleek fractal]

8.0 Turm3

[opaque mica]

Especially now when my friend is still doing France at 5.7 and we won't be bringing him higher because he's... not good

[sleek fractal]

Atm im still doing US 11.3 but im lazy so i do this

https://youtu.be/GnjCesr13uM?si=WiHVjHssxqDuPft4

[opaque mica]

But 5.7 is an excuse to be an annoying shit in 10P at 6.0

[sleek fractal]

France is in general pretty good nowadays

[opaque mica]

I find it lacking

In the

You know

Armor department

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but thats a skill isdue

Dobt get hit

Im fat fingering hard

[opaque mica]

I'm good at not getting hit

I'm a recon

The issue is

2 dudes inside a paper replica of a tank

One machinegun bullet and I'm out

[sleek fractal]

Plane swoops in,ded

[opaque mica]

And that's why I'm currently using 10P

Because plane swoops in, I get a free kill

[sleek fractal]

It has a 20mm right?

[opaque mica]

Yes

[sleek fractal]

Yeah that thing is horrible

[opaque mica]

Nah, it's pretty good

[sleek fractal]

Is it now?

[opaque mica]

It is for me

And I don't care what the community says

[sleek fractal]

That doesnt matter anyway

[opaque mica]

It's nimble and has just enough punch to kill anything that you will encounter rushing points early game, and it's relatively good at killing planes

[sleek fractal]

Theres 2 vehicles that are really shit in WT which are the Italien Sabre and Chinese M41 in the TT

[opaque mica]

1. Plane. It's a kill either way
2. Chinese. It's a copy either way

[sleek fractal]

That is not on the list of the people pushing shitty vehicles up in the BR til Gaijin fixes or up BRs them to prove a point

Like if you dont kill anything with that M41 Dart it aint your fault.It just makes Ammo red and has no spalling

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/pty5su/so_me_and_few_decent_players_saw_gaijin_say_that/

And that happened to the italien sabre

[opaque mica]

And nobody at Gaijin looked at the data and saw that it's just 4 dudes

Amazing

[ruby rain]

holy airbrakes on this fella

[opaque mica]

BR is being calculated by an AI, prove me wrong

[sleek fractal]

Iirc people break these off anyway at the start of tge match

At least i did

[opaque mica]

If at least one other person did that as well, that makes it people

[ruby rain]

Ive seen that too

[opaque mica]

I did that with the A6M2

[serene birch]

still doesnt make it go much faster than like 190kph

its noticeably faster but good lord its still a weird thing to play

[serene birch]

yeah it can also TURN

well as good as the stuka can

once.

[opaque mica]

Just once. It's an event that can happen only time time. And it has already happened

[serene birch]

truly the most event of all time

it is funny to see the noobs panic when i turn a full circle and get on their ass

[ruby rain]

I've been thinking about a ground gamemode that goes something like this:

Cargo pull

There is a heavy container or train car full of gold or big piece of tech (whatever) that needs to be dragged (via the towing feature) to a point to win the game.
The container's start position is on the map but not the current position, but it does leave behind a permanent clearly visible drag mark.
If a player starts or stops dragging the container, his team is alerted (on the map and a message) but not the enemy team.
Because the container is very heavy and not on wheels, light and fast vehs (Eland, Wiesel etc) can't drag it well or at all. (Depends on weight and HP of veh)
The container can be dragged by multiple vehs, both in paralell and in series, to expedite the process.
The container can't be destroyed.

a) The container's starting position is in the middle of the map and it has to be dragged to one of the spawn areas (obv the team whose spawn it was dragged to wins)
b) The container's starting position is on one edge of the map and has to be dragged to a point on the opposite edge (the team whose member(-s) deliver the container to the point wins)

Failure to deliver the cargo causes both teams to lose.
Possibly ground vehs are allowed 3 or so respawns (not counting backups).

I think such a gamemode would need new or reworked maps to work.

[opaque mica]

The "lower everyone's win ratio with one change" gamemode

Nobody would play the objective, people already have issues with playing the good old point capture

They would just rush the enemy spawn to grind some kills and then wonder why they lost anyway

Plus making it impossible for light vehicles to tow the cargo could result in situations where one team still can't win despite having an advantage, because all of their players are in light vehicles and they don't have enough spawn points / spare vehicles to use something heavier

It could be an event gamemode, but not a permanent one

Nobody would want to play it if it were permanent

And if it were played only on specific maps, then I bet those would be the most banned maps in the game

[sleek fractal]

Its like the extra cap points that came with crashed planes etc

Dumb,thats why they removed it.

[ruby rain]

ok nvm

[eternal zenith]

The M41 Dart is one of the funnest concepts and googoo did it dirty with the oatmeal cookie shell

or what was it the china tuber use for their weird repair videos?

sunflower seeds?

[jaunty condor]

Just add Rush from Battlefield.
They did an event for it a year or two ago and it was great.

[ruby rain]

I've never played BF

[jaunty condor]

Rush essentially boiled down to Attackers and Defenders.
Attackers attack 1 or 2 capture points, and once they capture them, the defenders need to fallback to the next set of capture points.

Attackers have a limited pool of tickets to spawn from.

[ruby rain]

that could be good

[jaunty condor]

It WAS good lol.
The event they did for it was great. Shook up the gameplay without being something entirely different.

Now that I think about it.
Enlisted does this.

[ruby rain]

they did it in WT??

[jaunty condor]

There was an event a couple years ago, yeah.

I think it ran for a week or something like that.

[ruby rain]

but then abandoned it???

Gazhin are so fucking retarded

[jaunty condor]

I'm trying to find the event but I can't remember the name of it.

The Advance Event from 2022.
It was limited to WWII vehicles but it would work for higher tiers as well.

[sleek fractal]

2.37.0.91 -> 2.37.0.92
Sholef:
Horsepower: 850 -> 900
Max speed: 45.81 -> 54.05 km/h
Max reverse speed: -8.69 -> -10.25 km/h
155 mm M839: all shells: speed: 562 -> 684 m/s

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/a-little-more-news-on-research-bonuses-for-new-nations/133281

[sleek matrix]

just had my first 10/0 11.0 Ground RB round

now i know how Spookston feels like

[eternal zenith]

how

[eternal zenith]

Are the apologist on the forum plants by gouchin?

[sleek fractal]

i dont know

[eternal zenith]

it's just for a majority of stupid changes is there really a silent majority pushing for it?

they like to pretend that's the case but I don't buy it

[sleek fractal]

thats how it is since a decade

remember the economy changes and the boycott xD

Those people 10000% payed actors

" we boycott the game we dont play bla bla WT union discord" and the leaders of that group didnt even stop playing for a minute

[eternal zenith]

I stopped playing, mainly because I was too embarrassed for a while

but then the itch started...

[opaque mica]

I've noticed that every time there's a change in the game, everyone is offended and they dislike the change. Even if it's something that is a genuinely good change

Like for example
Yesterday, there was a bug that made it impossible to use universal backups while you were already in a game. So I decided to check if it wasn't a bug but an intended feature. I stumbled upon a forum thread from the time the feature was added, and people were upset because now they will be able to use up their backups by accident and it was done specifically so that they would stop hoarding them

[sleek fractal]

The bug is random though

[opaque mica]

They "fixed" it today, but I didn't test it out yet

[sleek fractal]

I see.But yesterday is quite random it appeared sometime but not very often

at least for me

[opaque mica]

But we had it happen to us when we were playing as a trio, and as soon as the third friend left the bug left as well

So the rest of the time, when I was playing with just one friend, we were joking that his average 5.7 ass was denying us the use of our backups

[ruby rain]

bombs and missiles land on head

[opaque mica]

But bombs and missiles already land on your head on low BR

[sleek matrix]

by having the 1 in a million game where i have the bots in the enemy team for a change

i was 300 away from a nuke

[sleek matrix]

i do love the healing of crewmates

i have no idea why people dislike a change that helps themselves more than the enemy

[sleek matrix]

ID: 336ea2b00031e1e
Player: -QSC- VAExXy

[eternal zenith]

let's be honest, losing to a clanker is a skill issue

[serene birch]

cucumbers, peppers and sunflower seeds yeah lmao

its fucking weird man idk what in the chimp brain drives people to watch it

other than how dumb it is

[eternal zenith]

right? I should hate those cheap dopamine hooks but I gotta give em points for creativity

[serene birch]

real

it takes either a certain type of creativity or a certain type of whatthefuck to go yeah ima seal a cucumber or a pepper or sunflower seeds in this wood and paint it so it doesnt look off

ive seen one video and tbh good on them for actually matching the paint to whatever theyre repairing

if the vids arent faked lmao

[eternal zenith]

oh right, they could've just destroyed the thing after filming the end result

[serene birch]

gaijin wheres my doolittle b-25b

also i was absolutely jamming the TBF after realising it has camos now

me and my friend both got aces in it

our team had 0 kills

we wiped the enemy

[copper laurel]

i got a nuke once but i wasnt fast enough to drop it

[sleek matrix]

same.... twice

once on berlin even

[serene birch]

yeeep ive gotten them a few times

ive either been too busy to notice i had it and was late to drop it or i spawned it and the match ended :(

[sleek matrix]

i am sadly pretty mediocre at the game

i am playing way to rush-y instead of checking corners and taking my time for shots

somehow the possibility of barrel-shots elude me once i see a enemy LMAO

[serene birch]

meh as long as you’re having fun

[serene birch]

im by no means a good player ive just played for a long time sorta thing

[jaunty condor]

The only way to get good in WT.

[serene birch]

im experienced but not good lmao

[sleek matrix]

Its WT i dont have fun in this shit game

[serene birch]

too bad time to have run

[sleek matrix]

Cuz I am expecting the enemy to have a fucked barrel when I am shooting it point blank

But the Snail decides otherwise

Fucking Hit Reg

It also took me 20+ missions to get 5 Scouted kills, cuz my teammates were retards

You can only really play this Game in a squad

[serene birch]

i only play with friends now

we just goof off and play whatever

we dont grind anymore

[serene birch]

im seeing something abusable with this camo

[sleek fractal]

[serene birch]

SIM UK VS US BATTLES HERE I COME

[opaque mica]

You should play with me then, I always prioritize the good of my team over myself

I find a nice spot and just scout idiots, sometimes I eliminate weaker targets

[sleek matrix]

if thats true it wouldve saved me from several mental breakdowns yesterday

[opaque mica]

And I will rush to help teammates if I see a wrench icon above them

[sleek matrix]

i only do it when i dont put myself in danger or the chance of both parties to come out alive is relatively high

[serene birch]

float event is baaaaack

(for 3 days :( )

[serene birch]

i love custom battles. i just bullied an a-10 with my p-38k so he got his f-86f2 out, bonked him in that too. pulled the f-15a to really try and bonk me. he still messed up and i killed him in that too

[eternal zenith]

Nothing more traumatic than helping a mate repair and shortly after being done he takes another shot killing the crew

[gray thicket]

br related, is there one tank that is better than the mbt-2000?

[eternal zenith]

Chally 3 probably

If you just stick to 10.7 then throw in the T-90

contact-5 outperform the ccp version

[gray thicket]

mbt-2000 is basically a t-90 crossed with the leopard 2, very good firepower with DTCO-10, worse fcs(gen1). Mid armor, and a much better reverse gear

I like the t-90 but the mbt-2000 feels way better to use because of the mobility.

although the hull armor is non existent

[serene birch]

full tier tree rp bonus is dogshit

capped to like 3 matches per day for per type of vehicle

[gray thicket]

gajin is dogshit

[serene birch]

took them a year to give us that

[gray thicket]

2k rp for 10 bloody kills

[serene birch]

that sounds like a non premium amount tbh

[gray thicket]

what country do you main

[serene birch]

i dont main any

[gray thicket]

wish I could say the same😭

[serene birch]

not fun to play only 1 nation ngl

switching it up is good for my sanity

[gray thicket]

I agree

I’m usually grinding Chinese tech tree but I do visit the French, Russian and Swedish ones too

chinese top tier is satisfactory

[serene birch]

i just do everything tbh. the only ones i havent gotten top tier anything is sweden and israel

every other nation i have at least one thing thats top tier

[gray thicket]

go for Sweden first unless you want pain

[serene birch]

meh nothing really interests me in it that i dont already have

got the leopards so like yeah sure the strv 122 is better but i dont really enjoy top tier tnaks that mucj

gripen is in the british tree and its the better one 😭

[ruby rain]

how

[gray thicket]

😭

[gray thicket]

I was overreacting but it’s really fucked up

[ruby rain]

ok

true

[serene birch]

tbh nothing i want in israel either now that im looking at it except maybe the merkavas

[gray thicket]

spall liners make me treat myself very nicely

[serene birch]

maaaybe the F-16D cause its funky and fat

[gray thicket]

1mm away from the bloody carousel and it turns into void

[gray thicket]

merkavas are mid

[serene birch]

not really in it for how “good” they are

just that they look cool

[gray thicket]

they’re point and click

but have aps ig

[serene birch]

most top tiers are

[gray thicket]

no not really

[serene birch]

i mean yeah really

pretty much every top tier tank has a giant weakspot

[gray thicket]

yes

ariete

I like to use mbt-2000

and type 69

[serene birch]

i enjoy the midtier chinese lineup the most

it was a lot better when is-2s and m18s were still 5.7 but meh still fun

[gray thicket]

I like 8.0-10.00

especially ztz96

[serene birch]

ngl apfsds gameplay is just a snoozefest but i did enjoy the ztz96 for a bit

[gray thicket]

mega apfsds

but mid armor

actually

shit armor

but I get good kills with it

ztz96a make me suicidal sometimes

[serene birch]

yeah its a t series

theyre always shit armor p much until the very last ones

[gray thicket]

I’m grinding the vt-4

going smoothly but I prefer to grind the 99a which I can’t😭

[serene birch]

its still weird to think despite looking so much like a t72 that the ztz96 is basically just a mega upgraded and modified t54

[gray thicket]

yeah

I love trolling with the ztz88

3bm25 can’t go through

the ufp which am-1s usually aim at thinking it’s just some t55

[serene birch]

even funnier that china basically said “make the ztz88 look like the t72. now.” and ngl the chinese made it look better imo

[gray thicket]

wish I had the t72 for iraqi larping

[serene birch]

buy da turms

[gray thicket]

already got the am-1

[ruby rain]

least fucking coped russian air

[soft oracle]

Yeah bro skill issue

You need to shoot pilot directly between eyes for insta kill

[serene birch]

oh yeaaah more AI generated avatars 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

skins a lil cursed but otherwise aight

[jaunty condor]

Friend of mine got a kill like that on in IS-3 in a Jumbo lmao.

[wicked elm]

very impressive 👍

[ruby rain]

me too
#🛩war-thunder message

[serene birch]

do you meow or mriaow or mow or maow or mew

[ruby rain]

is this a setup?

https://tenor.com/view/smug-smug-cat-cat-face-cat-face-gif-26262519

[serene birch]

which one