🛩war-thunder

[ruby rain]

(smash into the ground)

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People that smash in the ground when your on their 6 todeny you the kill

If you rack up enough of those Teamkills the automatic system will ban you

That sure is fun

1 day,3 days,7Days,14days,a month,half a year,a year

[eternal zenith]

cringe

they should implement the same for suicides

when I read something like "the system will determine" I get a gag reflex

the entire premise of auto bans is whack as hell

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But how will it determine that? A teamkill is easily detected

[eternal zenith]

i was kidding, it's a terrible idea

generally bans for TK shows weak character

penalties

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You need 3 in a match to get kicked

The system kicks in after multiple teamkills in multiple matches in a row iirc

[eternal zenith]

idc about the logistics, generally a player should suffer ingame penalties but not get barred, boring

like a dude griefing just ends up broke

imagine it. Negative SL because they just couldn't stop

ah who cares anyways. This was just a thought for an alternate approach to manage team score

[eternal zenith]

speaking of automatic systems, did they do something about fraudulent reports yet?

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You get a message that you got reported but thats it

Oh and it tells you for what

[eternal zenith]

do they still tell you who reported you?

I found that hilarious in the beginning

Also you don't always get a message do you

not actively grinding germany, only ever having fun matches at tier II-IV and almost finished the Leo2

where you stand on suicide bombers?

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Wasted potential for more kills

[eternal zenith]

no penalties besides that?

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Why should be there a penalty?

Your handyxapping yourself and your team for one kill

[eternal zenith]

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/tools-using-data-provided-on-port-8111/106664

if you were curious about the development of overlay tools etc

official stance seems to be finalized. Anything not using rendered frames is A-OK

not like it was ever up for debate but people were coming up with some esoteric reasons why these tools would be considered cheating

[ruby rain]

what does this mean?

[eternal zenith]

if you want to use some apps or tools that use API data you won't be banned

[ruby rain]

https://x.com/i/status/1809588204061839723

Aviation (@webflite) on X

Harrier landing on an aircraft carrier 🔥

📹: ggoncruz

Twitter · Jul 6, 2024, 2:00 PM

[eternal zenith]

bit further down they did some damage control and appended that if you upload stream footage or w/e with map markers enabled in a markerless mode (sim) you can be sent to gulag

I mean ... duh

[ruby rain]

fair ig

[eternal zenith]

I love planes doing this weird stuff

first guy to come up with VTOL was a freak clearly

"what if it just went up without going fast"

[ruby rain]

Is it weird to vertically land a plane that was built to do that?

[eternal zenith]

nah, I'm just happy they built a plane to do that

ever since I played GTA SA I've had a special place in my heart for the harrier

[ruby rain]

non-L British moment?

[eternal zenith]

truly

germans did some vtol before that. Saw a docu on it and it was interesting how much they struggled with controlling this thing

the whole fly by wire concept was in it's infancy too

[ruby rain]

funny how the name for computer-interpreted controls tech actually describes how it was done in the beginning

[ruby rain]

wow man

it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAIR going up against a TAM in a stock M60

[eternal zenith]

rice paper hull deflecting 5kg AP shells

but you got a .50cal so peper the side and it's deleted

[ruby rain]

he just turret-peeks over a hill with a stab while I have to stumble my bobblehead back and forth behind a wreck as cover
(the sides of my turret are already riddled with holes)

great

I finally got parts for it after 4 matches

[eternal zenith]

I really didn't have a tough time grinding that tier, I'm always playing a very long range playstyle tho

[ruby rain]

premium?

[eternal zenith]

I didn't have preem time active then no

[ruby rain]

hmm ok

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Delete him with HEAT

Even if he just peaks a HEAT hit is devastating

[ruby rain]

Don't have it yet

[nova sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-war-thunder-war-thunder-war-thunder-friend-gif-25844324

[fluid trout]

2 Horse power for the recon micro yeah, that's totally a 14 cylinder radial engine....

[ruby rain]

Mass 1450 kg

[fluid trout]

heavy drone

quick someone give me some tanks that have been removed from the game/ dont show up in the trees anywhere at this moment in time. unobtainables.

[eternal zenith]

Coelian

Panther 2

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Flakpanzer_341

[eternal zenith]

what for?

[fluid trout]

tryna go through and see what items i can pull up to just have on my wishlist that aren't viewable by normal means

like the german sherman

[eternal zenith]

https://wiki.warthunder.com/UFO

[fluid trout]

if it's an old april fools one i think they actually removed them from the files because i tried to do the exoskeletons from the last april fools and they didn't pop up

it's sad to me that the nuclear bombers are flagged as not viewable, very sad.

[eternal zenith]

nuclear bombers are just tech tree planes with special loadout

[fluid trout]

yeah but they're flagged as seperate vehicles in game, getting the _killstreak tag

canberra_bimk6_italy_killstreak

example

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Tiger 10,5

German Sherman was buyable multiple times

They sell like 2000 a year sometimes

I have mine still from the Beta Pack

[eternal zenith]

From a rarity standpoint it might be the Surblinde

[ruby rain]

withhh the roof-mounted .50 ?

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It was fun in Sim tricking the Americans with the Herman

Then they banned it

Then it came back when sim was shit

[ruby rain]

"Herman"

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Herman the Sherman

[fluid trout]

heh, who remembers this pile o crap

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I do,did they stop selling it?

[fluid trout]

a while back yeah

because it was so bad nobody was buying it

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Good,very good

[fluid trout]

so they removed it from sale.

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Look up the twin Bf019

Bf109 Zwilling

Thats a nice one

[fluid trout]

what the hell is the "racing" m18?

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M18 for the racing events

[fluid trout]

1k horsepower

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Yep theres a racing po2 too i think

You were able to win a Po2 via those events

Football m551

Are the Mechs still in the files?

Kv2 Turrets on legs

[fluid trout]

not that i could load, unfortunately

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Ah to bad

[fluid trout]

i had the names but couldn't load them

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Was a fun event

Just like the Ponies

My little ponies

[fluid trout]

iirc the only surviving part of the exo event is the uav drone but might be mis remembering

raven's eye

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That was WAYYYYY before UAVs

I dont think we even had brits at that point lol

Only the main 3

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Yeah that was way later

[ruby rain]

with droppable nades?

[fluid trout]

no unfortunately

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https://wiki.warthunder.com/ST-1

That was hilarious

Good times when there was only 3 ground nations

[ruby rain]

bruhh

[fluid trout]

oh, interesting. apparently the standard recon drone and the recon drones with thermals are 2 seperate entities

makes sense when you think about it, but still cool to see

[ruby rain]

where are you digging all this up?

[fluid trout]

line by line

the unobtainables on the da wishlist

[eternal zenith]

Think I should wait this shop out to the next or get some coupon?

I've been considering the tigre but it seems garbage + I don't like naval

[twin saddle]

Just dont play on French vehicles bro

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Not playing France is the biggest mistake you can make

[eternal zenith]

what you talking about france got some of the best ground units

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They made France so good you even see Lec Lec's in Tournaments

[twin saddle]

France is not bad at the top-tier, but everything else except ebr is shit

[eternal zenith]

lol

6s autoloader slinging 120mm

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Dafuq

France starts to get good at 5.3

[eternal zenith]

20t being still broken

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After that its free real estate

[eternal zenith]

AMX with the funky suspension

VEXTRA being a race car

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For Modes like SQB or when ranked comes Leopards are still better but for 1v1 2v2 tournaments and Randoms are the French really good

[eternal zenith]

I ignored france a lot until the latest update. Really one of my fav nations now

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The mirages are superb

[eternal zenith]

Well, I dare not to play top tier jets still

[eternal zenith]

ever play this thing?

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Nope not yet

[eternal zenith]

I see people hating on it because of the paper armor

but the 20mm on the roof is a anti air menace and the 142mm rockets feel just unfair a lot of times

[twin saddle]

without armor

[twin saddle]

Hahah, yup

[eternal zenith]

that's the Surbaisse, turret may be vulnerable but it's still a heavy tank

Why the french didn't put an auto loader in the AMX-50 Foch still puzzles me

an if we ignore everything else: The french lineup has an abundance of tank with a butthole ejecting empty shell casings

[twin saddle]

Why does this tank need windows?

acra

[eternal zenith]

it's a waveguard

this thing can swim

[hollow pelican]

That good?

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As good as every other vehicle

Except Chinese M41

Fuck the chinese M41

Worse damage than the HSTVL with its Darts

[hot hull]

it looks cool tho

[hot hull]

nice money

Mind sharing?

[ruby rain]

if only we could...

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because Oshida won't post it for like a week, the SP cost changes:

• Plane spawn point cost calculation changes:
  • Guided bomb SP multipliers:
    • 200 - 499 kg: 1.03x -> 1x
    • 500 - 1999 kg: 1.03x -> 1.2x
    • 2000+ kg: 1.1x -> 1.4x
  • Missile SP multipliers:
    • Previously it was weight based (same system as rockets and bombs):
      • 0 - 199 kg: 1x
      • 200 - 1999 kg: 1.03x
      • 2000+ kg: 1.1x
    • Now it's guidance type based:
      • SACLOS / IR / SARH: 1.1x
      • ARH: 1.37x

The long awaited CAS spawn point increase

[eternal zenith]

sounds great

no dumb bomb increase tho

also 1.03 for 1999kg?

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1.03x

If it comes out that way

Numbers might have changed

Its overall a good amount

[eternal zenith]

idk man should have another tier in there

[spark spindle]

Wait a second... Why does the french 75 sherman lose its .50cal??? That is like half the reasons I like shermans in the first place.

[eternal zenith]

yes

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What tier?

[eternal zenith]

another separation of the payload weight

or make it dynamic

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It is dynamic after that

As it says it WAS weight based

And even now,less weight,less spawn points,more bombs,more points required

[ruby rain]

That's it??
Is that weight per bomb or whole load?

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Whole load wouldnt make sense when it specifies the point increase per Bomb

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Well see when its here

[spark spindle]

Damn, starship gamemode came sooner than I thought.

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It was an Su25

[spark spindle]

Bro got hit so hard that the entire model got fcked up, yet the plane survived.

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2.37.0.55 summary
A-200A ("Italian Tornado"), IDS-Tornado, IDS-Tornado (Marineflieger), IDS-Tornado (WTD 61), Tornado G.R. Mk. 1
...

will be 28 choosable large CM and 340 large chaff per pod
340 large chaff is about equal to 2500 normal chaff

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More Banana

[ruby rain]

Where do you put them?

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Tank decorations

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pls kill me

KILL ME

[ruby rain]

Air realistic

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Yeah but im flying a shitty BR

11.0

Air RB is way better than ground RB lel

Skill gap is much bigger

way more fun outplaying skill less people

[ruby rain]

I am the skill-less in this context

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Also i need like 6 hours to get 420k for a plane

its way way longer for a ground vehicle

[ruby rain]

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https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-gif-26093316

[spare steeple]

rip germany

why they got a f 4f with aim 120s

such bs

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Its not bad

Thats the joke

It performs way better than most people think

[ruby rain]

Any use for the M60 HESH?

[hot hull]

I bet we'll see more 4th gen planes next update

f/a-18, eurofighter, rafael ect

I have a need for AIM-174

even with the unlikelyness we will see it in a long while

i fw air launched sm-6

[soft oracle]

AA missile turned to Ship SAM just to be put on plane as AA missile again

or something like that

AIM 54 and 120 breeding season

[eternal zenith]

why not, seems the most sensible way

[eternal zenith]

105 mm hesh sadly still crap

you played it now what's the verdict?

[arctic granite]

Damn I was hoping to escape war thunder by going full-stalker.. I played the game since 2014

[ruby rain]

haven't tried it in battle but I reckon it only works against open and thin-skinned vehs

[eternal zenith]

russian tanks too. ERA fucks with it tho

[ocean copper]

Dunno how the new HESH handles, but I have some bad memories of me shooting a HESH at a BMP-2M, and doing utterly nothing.

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nearly every 105er gun is meh

[ruby rain]

fucking garbage ass game

[eternal zenith]

It doesn't really matter for APDSFS

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It does because of spalling

and spalling is horrible with them

[eternal zenith]

eh

[ocean copper]

Yeah, gun caliber change the spalling.

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Its just logical that a smaller caliber creates less spalling but that BR is rather mediocre anyway

[eternal zenith]

I found it to matter less

[ocean copper]

105 is fine imo, it's not the worst caliber there is.

[eternal zenith]

top tier is mostly a shitshow dodging atgms or guided bombs

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Im playing a different Toptier

[eternal zenith]

my fav is still 76mm darts

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simply cause im on the giving end

[eternal zenith]

certified goat

[ocean copper]

The chinese M41 is a small caliber dart. And god is it bad.

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ah i thought you were talking about the M41D with its less than 2kg darts

yeah its HORRIBLE

less spalling than the HSTVL darts

Its one of the few vehicles where i say its outright bad

cant blame the player

[ocean copper]

China is so rich they just modernize bulldogs

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China is so rich they build tanks that gas their own crew while firing

[eternal zenith]

oh dw, we know top tier was no better thanks to the classified ammo report

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Last Tank biathlon a chinese crew gased itself nearly with repeated firing

[ocean copper]

I need to grind China and enjoy that WZ ...

[ocean copper]

oof.

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Overbuffed thanks to the dude responsible to get Chinese sources for buffs and nerfs

[eternal zenith]

ain't tank biathlon limited to T-series?

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They fired the dude cause he made up bogus values,had them implemented

[ocean copper]

I'm grinding US and China rn. But it's so tedious.

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Nope

[eternal zenith]

I mean, commie tanks pretty samey regardless

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They even crashed their tank in 2018 lol

[eternal zenith]

clip clip clip

https://tenor.com/G6qs.gif

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTXPoBTAEk&ab_channel=OrganizacjaMemówZjednoczonych

thats cringe clips of 2022

theres also crashes in there

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNxbh-fruV8&ab_channel=ChinaObserver

[eternal zenith]

remembered why I don't watch this crap

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yeah its so bad

[eternal zenith]

but it did spawn the 300kph meme

don't worry, this was taken before anything happened at all

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[eternal zenith]

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Just for flexing

[ruby rain]

@sleek fractal thoughts?

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That gaijin always does stupid shit no matter what they say

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"We wont implement tanks and focus on planes"

Introduces Ground forces

there will never be A-bombs,flamethrowers or Napalm

There will never be realistic looking crews for planes and tanks

there will never be naval

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-not-care-juan-gif-22047769

[eternal zenith]

the tank beta direction was clear from the start

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Nah cause the game was basicly IL2,which Gaijin made before Warthunder

[eternal zenith]

They salivated at the mouth of WoT sales

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And the focus was very clearly only on planes when the Pony Event came to introduce jet engines

Yep a year later

When WoT hat its lows

[eternal zenith]

WoT had it's series 2 when they dropped the beta announcement

I'm sure gagagoon realized it don't matter what they do

magine if they had a lead that wasn't part of the goon crew

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Imagine they would have proper management and wouldnt be greedy shits

[eternal zenith]

ye

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we would have better rewards and modes worth playing

proper Clan wars etc

proper ranked

proper implemented tournaments

[eternal zenith]

I have to gaslight myself into thinking it could always be worse

https://tenor.com/4OntLLzxAb.gif

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I have send them idiot proof concepts that wouldnt hinder them at making even more money

It took YEARS WORKING ON THEM

They just ignore it

[eternal zenith]

giving out work for free, you doing something wrong my man

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Imagine Squadron battles but instead of those silly clan points you earn something like warbonds for a proper placing each season

AND THEN you got a shop for it with rotating rewards

like the warbond shop

[eternal zenith]

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But with every single event tank.

IMAGINE THAT and if you buy a pricy tank after 3-4 seasons of getting into top 100 squadrons

it gets instantly redeemed and no coupons

[eternal zenith]

"it would discourage players who worked hard for their unique coupon"

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Yeah SURE

its not like YOU NEED TO WORK HARD to get that shit even

[eternal zenith]

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and it would encourage the entire fucking playerbase to sweat like hell into Squadron battles

It would even net them even more money if people find out "HEY I CAN USE THAT OP PREMIUM PLANE OR TANK"

KV-220 and BI sales would skyrocket

[eternal zenith]

you know, just like the jars of homemade tomato sauce in my pantry this game is brimming with botulism

why they no fix that?

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Cause their shit works

the players dont care

they yap and yap and yap

NERF CAS REMOVE PLANES

Shitheads focus on the broken game

They rip you literaly off and you yap only about CAS without even playing it yourself

they add more bloat and broken shit every update and they get away with it

The spaghettie code is worse than tarkov by now

I cant even get all buttons on my keyboard mapped anymore cause i play PLANES AND TANKS

Its that tedious by now

ITS so tedious they even designed a HOTAS especialy for WT

[eternal zenith]

the issue I see is that even planes, which the engine is supposed to be focused on, feel scuffed compared to something like DCS

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it costs like 800€ and is garbage

[ruby rain]

this dogshit shouldn't even be compared to full/high-fidelity sim

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SIm should be canned from WT

And then they should brin EC RB back

Enduring Confrontation for RB was GOAT

You could spawn as much as you wanted and if you performed decently you made millions

Or lost millions with respawns xD

[eternal zenith]

you mean the Mongoose is specifically desgined for WT?

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Nah they just copied it

[eternal zenith]

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There was like a special WT edition

Ah found it

It was worse

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarthunderSim/comments/18varr3/war_thunders_new_hotas_by_hori_first_impressions/

It doesnt even have that many buttons

[eternal zenith]

shit game

shit people playing it

[sinful dawn]

kill em with my mind

[hollow pelican]

What if we had ARB with dramatic weather? (Like a thunderstorm or a tornado)

Would that just be cool or not due to potential performance issues?

[eternal zenith]

ivan can't even implement dynamic daytime, don't ask for advanced weather mechanics

[brittle bronze]

i would play this game if it had infantry

and if the vr mode had a tank interior lol

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Enlisted

[ivory garden]

can I have some

[low fern]

Xm1 or kvt?

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Xm1 got nerfed pretty hard over the years.KVT is just an M1 and you should remove the vismod

Also there was just an sale

Buyimg stuff now would be a waste of money

[soft oracle]

Buy everything off the sale to support thr developers

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Buy everything to never see any good changes done to WT

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They fixed and changed killcams

Nice

[ruby rain]

Giving money to Gazhin is a waste of money

Last I checked, there still is a sale on the TAM

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Due to argentinian special day thing

The overall sale is over

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[eternal zenith]

sad really, got to enjoy 3rd person thermals again

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Lel

Yeah that bug

[eternal zenith]

do you remember which tank had driver thermals?

was it the striker?

[ruby rain]

I was playing rank 5 during the bug

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Striker yep

[eternal zenith]

Oh they put driver thermals on the M1A2 as well

Leo 2A7 too

Cally 3, VT4

[low fern]

Ik, just asking what should I buy

Cause if ill buy clickbait ill meet soviet top tier setups

[ruby rain]

I still haven't used my AIM

[soft oracle]

No need to use it

Why would you play US top tier anyway

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Abrams are not bad

Just hard to play

[soft oracle]

I don't like US teams

6 gazillion clickbaits dying upon driving the vehicle out of the spawn

[hot hull]

yea its a scientifically proven fact that low-level clickbait players just spontaneously combust upon leaving the spawn area

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As if it was any different with any 10.3,9.7,10.0,11.0 or whatever premium

[hot hull]

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/decompressing-battle-ratings-for-top-aircraft-and-accompanying-changes-to-stock-weapons/126276

wtf?

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why wtf ?

[hot hull]

gaijin doing a good change?

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Ah yes

You get it

its a good change

most people cry cause they dont understand what actual decompression is

They only see a nerf in BR

That stuff is actualy good shit

[hot hull]

Im more shocked seeing them do a change for the better than for the worse

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They do that a lot

people just dont see it cause the negative outweights it

[hot hull]

Yeah and this has like zero negatives

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Only positives for the lower BR´s and they gonna switch the Ground BR for planes too

But i guess that comes later when Ground gets a bit of decompression

[eternal zenith]

🧀

[untold ledge]

how get better at video game named war thunder, im soon to my 1st rank 2 vehicle and the games very fun with friend im playing with

[eternal zenith]

Being good at this game is not a thing to strive for

[untold ledge]

[ruby rain]

it's' mostly about learning the strengths and weaknesses of vehs (yours and those of your enemies)

[low fern]

bro ffs

this is third time in a row

[eternal zenith]

what

you lost with a booger team?

[low fern]

i did

because team cant do a shit bruh

[eternal zenith]

I mean bruv, 6 deaths

[low fern]

3 of them were spawn kills and 1 of them killed by spawncamping plane

[eternal zenith]

bless you for not leaving after your premium tonk got squished

[low fern]

huh?

its 6.7 bruh

not 10

[cold lichen]

Whats the other teams composition?

I see USSR and what else?

Wiat

No, against germany WITH russia on your team?

Should have been a clean sweep

[low fern]

germany and japan

not my fault that my team is full of disabled people

[cold lichen]

Oh....

6.7 Japan isn't a push over though

ST-A3 is CRAZY good

[eternal zenith]

unless you select your squad, talking shit about your team is pretty cringe

[eternal zenith]

I love autoloaders

[low fern]

yeah war thunder is filled with disabled autists

now thats confirmed for me

maybe i should go back to 4.7 with my t14 lmao

[ruby rain]

wow I cant wait to use the slightly better ammo I spent time to research!!

[cold lichen]

Better angle pen tho

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Ehhhh ok? Its one of the best tanks atm

[ruby rain]

Borderline peashooter

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Your fast,just flank 😄

[hot hull]

its very clearly an mbt why would i do that

[sleek fractal]

Cause you even do that in an MBT

Especialy Abrooms

Move fast hit hard

Their armor is shit

[merry iron]

Just hit the sides

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That makes no sense

what does Abrams armor have to do with "hit them in the sides"

When i say its already shit xD

[untold ledge]

glory to china tank destroyer

china numba huannnnn

he m8 feels so good to use I killed like 7 people in 1 life

[eternal zenith]

Unlocked the baguette 120mm dart ammo

first time using it penned 2 t-series in one shot

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8984-esport-watch-armored-apex-2024-and-receive-unique-prizes-from-twitch-drops-en

Twitch drops

[eternal zenith]

tigor actually kinda neat

still won't be watching that snooze fest

[untold ledge]

SU-76M is a war crime to Chinese tank destroyers

it feels so badddddddd

[merry iron]

well with the sides it dont matter what you're shooting at

[eternal zenith]

churchill:

[sleek fractal]

Yeah which made no sense in the context i was saying how to play an Abrams

[merry iron]

oh i was misreading

[eternal zenith]

[merry iron]

i kinda just

read half of what you said

[eternal zenith]

it's always in context

[merry iron]

and let my brain autofill

[merry iron]

[low fern]

bruh esports in a broken ass game

[crude ruin]

hell nah

[twin saddle]

FINALLY

[low fern]

Bruh lmao

I thought I'm playing much worse

Main tanks are t14 and t34 btw

[sleek fractal]

Thunderskill is outdated since i dont even know how long

[low fern]

Then how do I check my stats

In game?

[ruby rain]

your player card

[sleek fractal]

Ingame,then theres a Warthunder App where you can compare your stats to other Players stats aswell

[untold ledge]

whats wrong with controller players and not wanting to play the game

on fucking airplanes they just ram you always and never shoot at all

like ive died more to controller players running into me than to being shot dead

[tribal hatch]

https://youtu.be/fNZ1F7jTSMA?si=inORrMEi-CyDLDTN

[eternal zenith]

Ok, new favorite thing: catapulting the nuke way far as I drop it so it takes a hot minute for it to blow, take the time to make strafes at the enemy team

managed to frag a SPAA while the nuke was in the air - crashed the plane. fricking hilarious as everyone was raging about how I wasted the nuke just for it to blow somewhere near airfield

[sleek fractal]

You mean nuke flipping or skipping

It had a name

I forgor

[eternal zenith]

flipping is when you dive below it and pull up innit?

idk if it was called skipping tho

[sleek fractal]

I dont know since i forgot

[eternal zenith]

nuke should have actual explosive yield, not just game ending effects. Like me launching it almost 10km in the direction of red spawn shouldn't end the game

all open top crews getting timed damage

if launched center map end the game yeah, funny if it just left a huge crater

[sleek fractal]

Ground Zero

[eternal zenith]

another thing that'd be hilarious would be launching it right into the air and then looping around to crash the cockpit into the bomb without it detonating, crashing the plane while it drops down

[sleek fractal]

I hate the map but its that one city map after Nuke explosion in the center

[eternal zenith]

runner up for the worst map

[sleek fractal]

Its good.

If it wasnt night only

[eternal zenith]

I want White Rock Fortress back

didn't appreciate it back then

[sleek fractal]

Yeah it was a good map

People just such hard white rocks and dont know whats good

[sour flower]

tfw someone whining about wanting old kursk back

the one with 0 cover, AI at guns that ignored armor and angling, and AI BM-13s that would sometimes just spawncamp you

[sleek fractal]

i remember that shit

It was horrible

[sleek fractal]

Gepard

[eternal zenith]

hot

[ruby rain]

Strange picture. The black smudges at the bottom and the fog (?)

[eternal zenith]

smog

welding fumes

[ruby rain]

Oh

Surely that's unhealthy

[eternal zenith]

metalworkers in 1970s germany just built different

[ruby rain]

They died different, that's fo shure

[eternal zenith]

dutch gepard actually

got the bar antenna instead of the parabolic dish

[sleek fractal]

You deserve to step on a lego brick

[eternal zenith]

voice changer

[sleek fractal]

Ricarda

[random bobcat]

haha

[eternal zenith]

hot

[ruby rain]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-so-true-so-true-so-true-boonie-gif-17734967772996813820

[soft oracle]

fastest nuke ever

Dude flanked factory map and got 11 kills

[eternal zenith]

what tank?

[soft oracle]

BMD-4

Dude has 30k kills in BMD-4 and 77k kills overall

[hollow pelican]

In War Thunder the BMD-4 and BMP-3 are practically identical are they not? (Maybe some different armor thickness)

[ruby rain]

M1A1 with L55

[desert pawn]

ok I have a huge problem I hope somebody can help with, every time I play this game after about 30ish mins my whole PC just turns off. I've looked everywhere on reddit and the forms but I can't find anything

[eternal zenith]

monitor temperature?

pc specs?

Sounds like a PSU issue, might be kicking the bucket. If your system power draw is too close you might get a crash because of power spikes as well

[desert pawn]

not the greatest 1050, but ive been play Warhammer Darktide for hours and have never had any crash like this along with gamma, it is the only game that does this

ill see what i can find on the PSU

[eternal zenith]

Install HWInfo and check the logs

[desert pawn]

will do

[eternal zenith]

do you know your PSU?

how many watts it's rated for

model number if you know

[desert pawn]

470W

[eternal zenith]

does it have a rating?

[desert pawn]

ATX-CT

[eternal zenith]

80+ bronze or something?

[desert pawn]

where would I look, not the most computer smart person

[eternal zenith]

no worries, it seems like it's a noname PSU

[desert pawn]

lol fun

[eternal zenith]

it's just these are rated around 80% efficient

so if it say it's 470W that means you realistically can expect it to supply 380W. If your GPU and CPU draw more than that shortly your PC might crash

[desert pawn]

would games like darktide and gamma which I don't run as well draw more power? I get really good frames with warthunder

[eternal zenith]

@desert pawn click the windows symbol and search for event viewer

[desert pawn]

got it up

[eternal zenith]

click the system tab

then look for errors & warnings

[desert pawn]

I don't have anything, I filtered for criticals but I have nothing

two secs for a pic

[eternal zenith]

my bad, they don't call it critical

just error and warning

if you know which time your pc crashed then you can look if you got an entry

[desert pawn]

yep I get the one from a few mins ago

[eternal zenith]

what's the eventID?

[desert pawn]

1101

[eternal zenith]

shit

that just means it's an improper shutdown

most likely power failure

[desert pawn]

fuckkkkkk

would lowering settings do anything?

[eternal zenith]

I mean shit as in it doesn't tell us anything

Do you limit your framerate?

[desert pawn]

no, I let it auto detect ran nice and smooth so I havent messed with it

would limited to 60 help?

[eternal zenith]

If you have a 60hz monitor I recommend you just set your global frame limit to 60

in nvidia control panel

[desert pawn]

where for global?, I only see it in "change resoulation"

[eternal zenith]

open nvidia control panel

click on Manage 3d settings

global settings

scroll down until you see max frame rate

set to your monitor refresh rate

[desert pawn]

ahhh got it wouldnt have looked in there

[eternal zenith]

hope it helps.

if it doesn't the next thing would be to run benchmarks

monitor all the values

ram issue would most likely cause a bluescreen, not a reboot

[desert pawn]

lol we're about to find out, was playing had a nice flank picked up 4 kills bout to get a 5th and it shut off on me

[eternal zenith]

gagoon hacked your pc because you didn't buy a premium account

can't have non premiums win

[desert pawn]

lmaooo, so true god forbid someone grinding the Japanese's III rank have fun

[eternal zenith]

give it a go, see if you still crash. maybe really download HWinfo64 to see if it's a temperature issue

[desert pawn]

btw is premium wroth it? or can i still get to top tier without it

[eternal zenith]

state of the game right now? no

if you really want to - wait a little bit more, they do 50% discounts soon

[desert pawn]

ill think about it, seems to be doing pretty, i really just want the type 74

[eternal zenith]

lemme know if it crashes again

[desert pawn]

will do, super helpful either way seems to be good

[desert pawn]

that seemed to fix it completly thakyou so muchhh

[eternal zenith]

[cold lichen]

The BMD-4 Is way faster and its ATGM is auto-loaded, unlike the BMP-3's which takes 8ish seconds

the Chinese BMP doesn't have the debuff though and can fire its ATGM at 4 seconds

[sleek fractal]

[copper laurel]

[soft oracle]

BMD-4 smaller, 4s reload for ATGMs, I think commander has thermals, faster and has hydropneumatic suspension

Not sure tbh

[merry iron]

OMG FUCK GAIJIN

RP booster for allies

3 days in a row

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[hot hull]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[ruby rain]

https://x.com/i/status/1812743980796277125

Aviation (@webflite) on X

Raptor full of vapes! 🔥

📹: MarkFingar

Twitter · Jul 15, 2024, 7:00 AM

[ruby rain]

the Rothchilds making sure that the TAM is discounted right when I'm at the br to encounter it

[fluid trout]

rothchilds making the tam 2IP go on sale and giving it a touch of gainjin bias to make sure it sells well
(seriously what the fuck. straight down middle and it doesn't kill.)

grade a bullshit

[proper stag]

Fucking hate fighting all the variants of the tam

always eats my shells

[proper stag]

Had the same issue as you, lowering settings didnt really do anything for me

PC would jus shut off playing fucking minecraft

[desert pawn]

Well if you have found a fix def do what he suggested was a instant fix

Havent*

[proper stag]

Nah i replaced my psu

Replaced every part except the psu it was on its last legs

[desert pawn]

Lol guess that also works

[ruby rain]

censorshit from Geyzhin?

what does that mean?

[sleek fractal]

If you call it censorship to delete classified documents something is wrong with you xD

Someone posted secret stuff about R-77 Missiles

[ruby rain]

oh lol

[sleek fractal]

Now they need to check if its really classified.

If its not hes good

[ruby rain]

I didnt know

[sleek fractal]

Stoners reaction is very straight forward

Its not like,this doesnt happen every 2 days

It was political garbo

[merry iron]

For any VR nerds in here

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2754090/Aces_of_Thunder/

Steam

Aces of Thunder

Experience the thrill of aerial combat like never before with Aces of Thunder, the upcoming VR flight simulation game with high fidelity graphics made specifically with capabilities of latest generation VR helmets in mind.The game's physically accurate flight and damage models derived from the popular War Thunder military action game ensure high...

Release Date

Q4 2024

▶ Play video

VR version of War Thunder planes coming to PC

before today it was assumed to be playstation exclusive

les go

[sleek fractal]

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/challenger-2-mbt-technical-data-and-discussion/20371/9852

[merry iron]

another classified document has been leaked

[soft oracle]

Waiter waiter

More documents please

[random bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247597735021117522/1262824048857976884/2024-07-16_14-31-33.mp4?ex=6698000b&is=6696ae8b&hm=33904e4c85723ea84d6afc3c15f8f629e298b2649b9822a7feb59a822e739d9e&

[ruby rain]

how tf do I understand this shit?

[spark spindle]

You don't, you just upgrade crew and don't pay it any further attention.

[ruby rain]

ok

[sleek fractal]

Simple

[ruby rain]

ok lets hear it

[sleek fractal]

total base and top

[ruby rain]

damn, you really explained it!

[spark spindle]

But in all seriousness, Base (8.71 s reload) is the unupgraded value, every rectangle counts as +1 to a skill (you cannot really see how big of a improvement it is in advance, but once you upgrade you can look at Total). You can get every skill up to +10 (+5 with experience, +3 with buying the expert crew and +2 by acing the crew) Once you reach +10 you get the Top (6.7 s reload). I also believe that every + 0.5 adds improves the stat by the same amount.

[eternal zenith]

god I hate smin so much it's unreal

[eternal zenith]

that's hilarious

[jaunty condor]

Gentlemen.

[sleek fractal]

You can do that easily with 2nd WW Ground missiles starting from the 262 cause you can apply a distance trigger.

You can even use missiles as flares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUEMECbFic&ab_channel=DEFYN

Defyn does that a lot.

first 20 seconds and he has to use missiles as flares to counter a front aspect

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Su-7BMK

[sleek fractal]

That thing is fun to use with distance trigger missiles

[sleek fractal]

You finaly mastered the art of machine gunnning

NOW

next time its a main gun kill 😄

[ruby rain]

"mastered"
as I was shooting, I literally thought "this is dumb"

I have gotten some main gun kills

[ruby rain]

only 2 clips

most ethical cas player

[eternal zenith]

Bra

BRUH

Just got mighty moused by a F89D

[ruby rain]

[eternal zenith]

BONK

love TTD

[proper stag]

Cas players struggling to hit their targets, who have no way of fighting back is always funny

[ruby rain]

aim isn't even the main problem in this case

[eternal zenith]

This thing is busted fr

[ruby rain]

115mm pen HEAT

[eternal zenith]

short and thick

[ruby rain]

I appreciate the clarification

[eternal zenith]

they're cooking

it may be the poison stew that makes you blind for one day but they cooking

[eternal zenith]

did they really shadow buff the TAM 2IP?

[eternal zenith]

dev got called out on his bullshit from a user on a question I asked in steam discussion. Overruled my correct answer to his response saying that the solution "is probably wrong"

the answer he responded to has, in fact, solved my issue

Be real with me, do you guys feel an "aura" of arrogance around the staff at most times?

Don't get me wrong, not all of them have this small dick energy. There's good ones I can agree to that

Had I not invested this much time in my freemium account I'd do a little trolling right now

[eternal zenith]

@sleek fractal did you snatch some petard vouchers?

[sleek fractal]

No?

Why?

Should i?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/Vij0RbroRb

[eternal zenith]

this is pure fiction, and even if true highly coincidental since gaijin isn't a russian company - they are based in hungary

[sleek fractal]

Their a russian company based in Hungary*

And its true,they fired a lot of community near people over the last years and replaced them with utter assholes

Despite that.If they pulled this? Its gonna be massive

[eternal zenith]

The first news about this broke start of the month, I don't doubt this is exactly how it went down and I don't think anything changes

regardless I've urged some guys in germany and the netherlands to send in some letters to their representatives regarding anti trust

btw VonFlaks comment on the topic: "The Russians coming in an taking over community management is a wild conspiracy theory. If you have any more info, forward it to the US State Department"

[sleek fractal]

lol

They have Russian people working all over

Just like multiple other nationalities

[eternal zenith]

meh, as long as everything is neat nothing is going to happen to them. no reason not to keep them on their toes when they handle close to a quarter billion in yearly revenue

I'm generally not a big fan of their song and dance about being a european company while obviously laundering all their cash through banks in little russia and cyprus

[sleek fractal]

Same,also this developement can lead to issues with the next sanctions to Russia.They gonna look at companies and if they are involved in any way with the war they get cut off.So if its really the Minister for foreign affairs that stuff might get spicy

[eternal zenith]

if anything not minister but worked in the ministry

lol

funny how he left the MID shortly after Mechel was founded

Boring me just assumes he's been shaking the right hands, got some comfy mid level position. paranoid schizo in me wants to dig and put up red threads on a board

spending 15 minutes trying to look into this guys public info it's just a dude working comfy mid level jobs - surely knows a few guys but I doubt there's much conspiracy to connect

[sleek fractal]

Like i did with BSG and their Office in London which leads to an empty office and some female shadow name which is used to launder and funnel money for countless companies

[eternal zenith]

yup, all their HU employees work from home ... somewhere

[sleek fractal]

Official answer

[low fern]

wait for every single nation vehicles getting extremely nerfed and ussr vehicles getting extremely op because we have z-tarded guy who worked in russian goverment

[sleek fractal]

Imagine spouting nonsense like this cause the higher ups were always russian and still are

Sure,theres some slight russian bis,no denial

BUT

Its the biggest butt you ever see

The best Vehicles in the game are French

They sucked a long time but since 2023 France is the best nation by a big gap

[low fern]

same people like you said this before february 2022

now i just expect everything

[sleek fractal]

Like me?

One that actualy has to interact with Gaijin staff due the organisation of Events ?

Or rather has interacted with* even with Keo back then

[low fern]

i mean you said imagine spouting nonsense, just like this people were saying to everyone before the start of known events in february 2022

[sleek fractal]

Its kinda ironicly funny that you compare a game and its balance to a serious topic we cant even mention further now

And you should get hit by a sandal throwing latina for comparing a stupid game with that serious topic.

[low fern]

well fuck you, because try to live with a fucking country next to you that have gone batshit insane

[sleek fractal]

I do

Im just not as much impacted

But still the game has nothing to do with it

[low fern]

its a russian game

its already has something to do

[sleek fractal]

So is Tarkov or Atomic heart

My neighbour is russian

And?

Ok tarkov and atomic heart are proven to funnel money

Warthunder so far is not

And if they find out it gets boycotted EU wide due sanctions

Cause thats the new sanctions incoming

Thats how far we glance that topic now

Not further

Blame their higher ups but not the game

[sleek fractal]

But saying stuff like that is just pure stupid.

[low fern]

no its not when its russian yet again

or maybe ive just gone mentally schizophrenic insane i guess

[sleek fractal]

Rather that.

Yes,their based in hungary,but their higher ups always were russian.

And if that guy is the new CM he has nothing to do with balancing anyway

[eternal zenith]

people act like the game is some hardcore propaganda machine and devs aren't just looking to make the most money by keeping the playerbase engaged and addicted

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/bOMbi.gif

[sleek fractal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1e5i8kc/i_have_seen_enough/

[eternal zenith]

maan, couldn't it just be some silly goof instead of actual scumbags stabbing colleagues in the back?

[cold lichen]

What the fucking is going on here in the war thunder chat?!?!

[eternal zenith]

just drama

[cold lichen]

Ain't this channels sole purpose to call war thunder dogshit, laugh, then not talk for like 3 days?

[eternal zenith]

It's rare to get to witness how some of the scumbags who actively make this game worse act internally so this is relatively hype

[cold lichen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1114232409794281502/1185786145041293393/1185261791807283261.gif

Ig cheers to that

but WE HATE WAR THUNDER HERE PEOPLE

[sleek fractal]

this aint tarkov

summoning @nova wagon

now shit on Warthunder just like you do with Tarkov

Its well deserved

[cold lichen]

Reak havoc

[proper stag]

Every war thunder player knows the game is shit

[ruby rain]

Shit devs
Shit game
Couldn't save it from what they're doing to it

||I hope they all get killed||

[nova wagon]

WTF U WANT MAN

[eternal zenith]

inb4 googoo gestapo connects threats to their employees to your profile and ban your acc

[ruby rain]

you mean kgb

[eternal zenith]

Which is funny enough the main reason I never share my fat preem account to anyone I don't know in person. Some point they gonna blackmail players with 10k+ accounts to commit treason or account ban

[eternal zenith]

comrade catbites, we do not openly acknowledge existence of what you call kgb. report to public swimming pond at 01:00 for taste test of delicious tea please

[ruby rain]

I mean Ive heard that the russian govt funds, enables and conducts acts of sabotage/crime in europe...
so I wouldnt put it past them

[eternal zenith]

||banana vision||

[ruby rain]

point and show me where was I camping

[eternal zenith]

it's exactly as gaga designed it. CAS is there to prevent camping

[ruby rain]

also, the T95E1 is starting to seem like crap

anything good in the USA techtree?

[sleek fractal]

It is crap

[sleek fractal]

I summoned you to shit on the next russian game

[soft oracle]

Took you so long

Could've seen that from the stats

M60A1 zillion times better

[sleek fractal]

AMBT 10000000% BETTER

[jaunty condor]

I'm sorry guys.
But the 120S is better.

[ruby rain]

Battlefield: War Thunder

[sleek fractal]

Enlisted Thunder*

[ruby rain]

Laff, does your game crash half the times you try to test drive a veh too?

[sleek fractal]

Nope

[low fern]

war thunder: spaa camping edition

[sleek fractal]

..... its not like you fight tanks mainly with your AA

THats why people complain about CAS they spend more time hunting tanks with their AA than hunting planes

i finaly came to the ground of the conspiracy

they keep piling up

btw people dont forget theres twitch drops this weekend

[low fern]

i dont aa that much to begin with

[sleek fractal]

me neither,i rather spawn a fighter and clear the air.

more effective,way easier

[low fern]

At least you can play planes somehow, while o have severe skill issue

At least in trb skill cap is lower than in arb

https://youtu.be/EDx8uTd_65k?si=eyOSqZD1KsDX0D4D

For fuck sake

https://tenor.com/view/angry-korean-gamer-rage-gif-19768265

[soft oracle]

Sleep event, sleep battlepass

It is over...

Nothing ever happens....

[sleek fractal]

Not if it gets the Vehicle i expect

So far we only know the plane

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/sholef-v2-main-battle-howitzer/35447

[soft oracle]

T-88 HMC

Yes Yes more SPGs

[sleek fractal]

If its the Sholef the BP gonna be poggies

Wtf is an T-88 HMC

[soft oracle]

105mm Hellcat

[sleek fractal]

That thing never got mentioned anywhere so far

[soft oracle]

I made it up

[sleek fractal]

Aha

[eternal zenith]

annoying fuck

[eternal zenith]

Did they make the T-88 amphibian?

[eternal zenith]

I only have a few rank V planes, if I get the warbond crate that means I can practicall controll which rank V I want to get Talisman'd, right?

[random bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247597735021117522/1263634123705155614/War_Thunder_2024.07.18_-_20.09.13.02.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=669af27c&is=6699a0fc&hm=f7eb505ea652a0ef0abb67190409d06d80af11cdb5bc07ade85aaf692cdbe1d2&]

[jaunty condor]

No? I think it's random.

Oh wait.

I get what you mean.

Hurr durr brain moment.

[eternal zenith]

The only rank V I got rn is the Me 262 and talisn that don't seem worth it, might buy the Vampire and try it

what's one of the best rank V planes?

[jaunty condor]

Highest I have for Britain currently is the first Meteor.
Pretty good.

[eternal zenith]

[jaunty condor]

I would have no idea.

I've heard people speak extremely highly of the Scimitar and Sea Vixen though.

Or are those rank VI?

I forgor.

[eternal zenith]

sea vixen is preem anyways last I checked

oh yeah, scimitar is VI

[jaunty condor]

I haven't played it much but the Meteor is good.

Sea Meteor is a lot better though apparently.

[jaunty condor]

Sholef for next BP tank reward.

[sleek fractal]

Oh yeah.I didnt post that here.

Since well i talked 2 days about it on other discords xD

Except for that yesterday #🛩war-thunder message

[soft oracle]

It is Sholef lma9

[eternal zenith]

come on APFSDS howitzer

another 120+G$ vehicle

oh no, they chose the V1

so V2 gonna be a premium

[steel dawn]

I'm sure there was already a ton of laughing at the battlepass plane they accounced. But holy shit, a second BP I can skip?

[crystal salmon]

a

[proper stag]

Hey what do you mean you wont use the 3.7 torpedo bomber with giant fucking airframe ?

[sleek fractal]

Lol if you wanna skip the sholef go ahead

Coupon will be worth a fortune

[ruby rain]

Hello Laff, what's the best strategy for quickly getting a fighter or striker into my USA ground lineup?

[sleek fractal]

Playing air.

OR

spend a few thousand (insert currency here)

[ruby rain]

which lines?

[sleek fractal]

every.single.one

Im not joking.

But if you want to really keep it simple

Go for the Line with the A-10´s in it

and both left lanes

[ruby rain]

enough for every rank and many are foldered

[sleek fractal]

first 2

otherwise you miss out great fighters and CAS

Line 1,2 and 4

you already miss out on the F8F in lane 3 which is really good CAS and Fighter.

[ruby rain]

fucking hell

[ruby rain]

is the squadron strike plane any good?

[sleek fractal]

A4E is really good

[ruby rain]

https://x.com/i/status/1814583335038951507

2S7 pion (trost) (@Trotes936897) on X

It is an evolution of the type 90 autoloader and can place ammunition in the breech in any position the cannon is in and it takes 3 seconds to do so.

Twitter · Jul 20, 2024, 8:49 AM

[fluid trout]

gaijin servers work flawlessly

[sleek fractal]

Be happy its a shit map anyway

[ruby rain]

now this plane (1.3) has the same RP reward as a 8.3 one

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but only for rank 1/2

Still a talisman is always nice

[ruby rain]

you mean rewards decrease also when researching higher ranks?

[sleek fractal]

obviously ?

Theres penalties

[sturdy pulsar]

researchink vehicles of example, rank 4 with rank 2 is like 50% or smth

[sleek fractal]

the game literaly tells you what is effective to research what with

[ruby rain]

Fuuuuuuuck

[sturdy pulsar]

this was a thing with uhhh

the old 20 sistem too

you had I think 3 tiers of "leeway"

Arado Rank 24 meme

[sleek fractal]

Game even tells you that you research the vehicle next in line faster with the one previous in line

BUTTT NUUHHHH UHHH people still think that grinding normaly isnt faster

while it literaly is faster than playing a single premium for 20 days

The WT community is just 110% regarded

[eternal zenith]

researching Top tier leo using Pz III rn

60k more to go

[sleek fractal]

Shermy did shit like that

Then he got banned for posting a Tow evaporating Desert People

[jaunty condor]

Shermy was one of the people of all time.

[ruby rain]

As far as I could tell, Shermy did nothing wrong bc the mods are on their power fantasy and wouldn't be transparent with what he did or said. Regarding that Tow vid, you couldn't even see anything "graphic". Banned on abstraction

[sleek fractal]

Ohhh they dig up messages from him.

Racist stuff

The vid alone wasnt the trigger

It was the last straw

[soft oracle]

Slop thickens

[ruby rain]

anyway