[0.33] [AIRCRAFT] MC-260 Chimera - Multirole Cargo Plane

[pine relic]

Anything interesting about the Andromeda up there too or is it just what we see: a kind of catamaran battle-carrier for VTOL's/helicopters?

[ornate charm]

Andromeda is a cruiser with a runway taped to it, Kiev style

she has tremendous firepower (two 203mm guns, 96 AGM-99s) and can launch VTOLs & helicopters

not possible

[tired tulip]

Understandable 😔

[pine relic]

Whoa! So it really is quite the battleship carrier. 96 AGM-99's?! That's more like an arsenal ship or something! So the 203mm's must be new guns that aren't in vanilla, right?

[ornate charm]

Yeah

[pine relic]

You must be really good at this stuff

[ornate charm]

Nothin comes close.

The 203s are actually a deadlier weapon than the 99s

[pine relic]

How much boom are we talking here?

[ornate charm]

they fire on datalinked targets and absolutely obliterate other ships

Andromeda can 1v3 Dynamos and come out on top

[pine relic]

Holy shit...

[ornate charm]

Coolest shot i’ve ever seen in this game was an Andromeda firing both its 203s at a Dynamo, both shots come in on the deck and destroy the railgun & starboard CIWS instantly

[pine relic]

So how far along are we talking here...?

[ornate charm]

Mod will release in about a week

NAVEX will be a fair few ships at 1.0 release

Andromeda-class Cruiser
Atlas-class Supply Ship
Pandora-class Light Carrier
Ironside-class Frigate
TBD Name-class Patrol Ship
Styx-class Missile Cutter```

[pine relic]

Utterly extravagant! Your work ethic is envious!

[pine relic]

Holy shit...!!

[ornate charm]

Today I get the Atlas ingame and done, then begin work on the Ironside (PALA’s Argus equivalent)

[indigo fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/я-хочу-сейчас-gif-4125441808331827537

[grand lava]

wow

[light plinth]

why are they not firing

[ornate charm]

Fire control cabins are bugged atm, they work fine if placed in the editor but i think i need to patch them to work after deployment :(

[light plinth]

damn

aight

[random wadi]

what is 2082?

[merry axle]

Primeva 2082, the server. They do modding and such

[merry axle]

Fire control trucks work

[ornate charm]

I mean ones that are deployed mid game

not ones placed in the editor

[random wadi]

never heard of it

[errant basalt]

I tried that yesterday they doesnt work either 💔

[errant basalt]

The fire control operator in sleep mode and the radar doing radar things

[ocean socket]

I was referring back to the other fellow asking if I had the stuff, I know you're not.

I know I'm not special enough for your stuff early either :3

[verbal canyon]

I knew I wasn't crazy

[merry axle]

huh, so the trucks only work mid game and the containers only work in editor?

[ornate charm]

Trucks can't be spawned mid game?

unless QOL does some nonsense

[indigo fossil]

What even is "mid game"?

[ornate charm]

like, an active game session / match

compared to stuff spawning at the start of the game from the editor

[merry axle]

yeah its QOL stuff

[ornate charm]

probably a logic patch in play for that, will need to mess with it

[indigo fossil]

Now that youre at It could you maybe disable FRVC for the Tula? Even if only carrying that with 5% fuel its still too heavy

[coral shoal]

Red weight limit is a suggestion, you can spawn while "overweight", flies easily with fans locked in vertical orientation

[gleaming salmon]

Damn, that looks like a big carrier

[indigo fossil]

Yeah but I mean if you can fly, getting rid of everything, Flying so slowly for so Little time, might aswell use a Chimera atp

[unique sandal]

I mean, at least it can be deployed at forward bases that don’t have a medium hanger for Chimera?

[coral shoal]

and from certain ships, and from KAR spawned helipads

also i reached overall 300ms forward while carrying it which seems enough

[undone summit]

How have you even joined this server then vro💔💔💔

[random wadi]

through the game

[undone summit]

i meant arynx server but nvm im stupid

I tought you sent that msg in her server

and forgot access to that server isnt through 2082 but through her threads

[random wadi]

oh

[marsh coyote]

not sure how I managed it, but during steady railgun firing with dual 127mm railguns, the forward gun managed to tear itself free and after spazzing out for a minute, fully fell out of the aircraft. This was during level flight at 80% throttle around 3500m up.
the aircraft kept flying, still had the rear gun, so I just kept going with that and RTBed once out of ammo as usual.
single player, FPS 55+ the entire time

[green island]

whaaa, that's amazing

emptied the magazines on twin railguns many times and never seen it

[marsh coyote]

yeah, I've used it a fair bit so it was quite surprising to see.

[ornate charm]

Happens if you've taken damage in my experience

The side of the airframe can just about withstand the recoil but if you take some amount of fire to it, the structure will fail after a few shots due to recoil.

[marsh coyote]

I'd been evading R9s and assorted ARH missiles but nothing had yet detonated close enough to register on the damage readout, and when the gun broke loose it had been at least a full minute since the last missile came my way.
that's all I know, if it was damage, it just hadn't registered on the display yet.

[ornate charm]

Any significant G-pulls? I've found that the airframe takes structural damage if you exceed 5

[marsh coyote]

not a clue. probably not but can't say for certain

[cyan hinge]

how do i spawn in as the plane

[green island]

spawns from same hangars as the darkreach and AB-4 so you'll need an airbase with one of those hangars. And then either the money to buy the plane, or place a factory in the map editor that produces them and requisition it at rank 4.

[deep quail]

thanks for making cool mods for free

[cyan hinge]

It doesn't let me spawn either way

[green island]

If its visible but greyed out no matter what, you probably have outdated blueprinter mod

[ornate charm]

update blueprinter silly

[cyan hinge]

Can u send me it

[ornate charm]

https://github.com/nikkorap/NOBlueprinter-Releases/releases/latest

[cyan hinge]

Thanks

[ornate charm]

[heavy fractal]

how to install

[chilly elk]

agreed i am being very dumb and can't figure it out

got the BelpinEx and Blueprint installed but no plane

sadge

[robust marlin]

How can i build this plane into a mission i placed factorys and they are producing but i cant spawn it at any airfield

[green island]

what's your plugins folder look like?

[chilly elk]

upon restrying it works now somehow

[green island]

nice

[green island]

probably same problem as the last 10 people who can't spawn the plane. outdated blueprinter mod.

[lone parrot]

what is nott?

[raw thistle]

nuclear option tactitools

[forest bronze]

trick I found was to target them on the map after landing, and act as if you were moving them like a vehicle. That gets it to play the animation of stowing the launcher back to cargo position, then redeploy itself. It worked fine afterwards

[unreal iris]

Can we please have images of all of them??? other than Andromeda and Atlas.

[ornate charm]

Ironside-class

[lone parrot]

what does it do?

[raw thistle]

adds different stuff to MFD, how many missiles launched/hit/intercepted, countermeasures screen, weapon screen

it's immersiveness buff basically

but, some of these option are tied to aircraft

making unsupported ones (modded usually) behave wildly

[lone parrot]

oh

[rocky loom]

did you decide against the back ciws in the end?

[ornate charm]

It'll be added next, getting other stuff functional first.

[rocky loom]

Oh okay

cool

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/703059477133525043/1134717857134030919/586966443539562604.gif

[merry axle]

giant flying ship when?

[unreal iris]

what about the others? or is this the only working one and youll add more as time goes on.

again i thank you for making such awsome mods

[ornate charm]

Currently there's four ships in the mod, with two more to be made before release (BDF patrol ship and a PALA light carrier)

Atlas-class supply ship

Andromeda-class cruiser

Styx-class Missile Cutter

[fierce cove]

I need this sticker 😭

[ornate charm]

it's on the shipyard

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1496884757961904312

[green depot]

are you going to make an updated version of terminal control or something that'll let us easily use these ships? Or just leave it to us to make missions?

[ornate charm]

When I release the mod it'll have some inbuilt missions

My favourite of which is Carrier Duel Lite (Cursor vs PALA Light Carrier)

[unreal iris]

i love these deisigns so much!! you said your releasing this next week? will it be manual install or on nommom

[mighty blaze]

were is \bepinex\config

[icy junco]

I did figure that out at one point, just forgot to update here. Thanks regardless!

[fierce cove]

thanks!

[ornate charm]

will be manual install at first then hopefully NOMM shortly after

[ornate charm]

ehehe

[green island]

That is veryyyy nice. Cool touch with how the arrow changes size depending on selected throttle.

[ornate charm]

Should make landings a lot easier as you'll be able to visualise the ratio of how your throttle is affecting your lift

[ornate charm]

ALSO

the blades are gonna spin :)

[merry axle]

aryx be cooking

[mighty blaze]

will this be a update some day?

or just a stay a mod

[rocky loom]

Official mod support is planned, an official cargo plane is planed, and you can play this in multiplayer if the other's have it installed too

[mighty blaze]

ok

[ornate charm]

Upcoming payload

[mighty blaze]

🔥🔥🔥🔥Master Chef🔥 🔥🔥🔥

[merry axle]

indeed

[mighty blaze]

this game came up in my life and told Warframe to scoot over 😂

[mighty blaze]

quick question though, will there be actual vehicle mods, not just skins or liveries?

[rocky loom]

we already have vehicle mods

[mighty blaze]

no on steam

workshop

[ornate charm]

in the far future maybe

for now just use NOMM

[undone summit]

Wtf

Thats uh

Odd

But cool

But odd

[ornate charm]

it's just a skynex in a box

[undone summit]

Afv8: i have no mouth yet i must speak

[ornate charm]

It's air deployable

AFV8 is not

needs to fit into the cargo bays of three separate cargo aircraft (Chimera, Ibis, Tarantula)

[undone summit]

Afv8: i have no wheels yet i must drive

When rajin?

[ornate charm]

Delayed as I don't want to steal thunder from FS-3

[merry axle]

what is rajin?

and how do i join the aryx discord

[undone summit]

Fs3 is never going to release js drop the rajin 😭

[undone summit]

J20

[ornate charm]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1496884757961904312

[merry axle]

steal all the thunder from primeva, itll be funny

[ornate charm]

They've worked their dicks off on it for months, that'd be an ass move

[undone summit]

Their problem to not release a finished product

Theyre sending copies to other ppl and shi

The guy that makes the bahja skin got it

[ornate charm]

they're doing it for free

[undone summit]

So are you

[ornate charm]

I do it at personal gain (I have a massive ego and this fuels it)

[undone summit]

Exactly

Fuel it more

Do it

Lock on to the ternion

Lock on to that civillian airliner

https://tenor.com/view/nuclear-option-nuclear-explosion-helicopter-quadrotor-tarantula-gif-7968957492644249497

[merry axle]

TWIST HIS DI-

[ocean socket]

An ego I'm honestly just gonna keep inflating with praise cause TBF it is super fun stuff.

Also TBF the only reason the FS-3 release bugs me is not the devs.

It's just the insane number of people yelling about it and at the devs instead of just...Letting them do what they need/want...

[merry axle]

fr

like do people not have patience?

[merry axle]

they act like the only thing those people do is make mods

[karmic wolf]

ternion release when

goodbye chat

[ocean socket]

I, personally, have no patience.
But like...Yelling at them for having lives doesn't get me free stuff :3

[merry axle]

true

[merry axle]

5 ternbillion years

[karmic wolf]

Nah, you have it wrong.

5 Tourbillion years.

https://tenor.com/view/bugatti-tourbillon-bugatti-tourbillon-car-spin-gif-17918272279204921488

[merry axle]

incredible

[ornate charm]

:3

[merry axle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472407264700006420/1109886666543464579/doordash.gif

[ornate charm]

I am also extremely competitive and P2082 are my perceived rival

the more shit they make, the more I will be driven to make more to compete :p

[merry axle]

i mean you do seem to already be making more than them

[ornate charm]

Same reason once blueprinter releases I will be training up people on how to mod NO solely so I can have more competition

[merry axle]

already you gave us the MiG-15, F-16 and now the chimera

[ornate charm]

and another plane in a few weeks >:3

[merry axle]

competition particle accelerator

[merry axle]

yippie :3

[ocean socket]

:3

[merry axle]

::3

[ornate charm]

MC-260 Chimera update 1.0.8

https://github.com/Aryx3D/Aryx-MC260-Chimera/releases/tag/1.0.8

• Added spinning turbine blades, they are tied directly to engine RPM and spool up/down with throttle.
• Added new Blown Wing Gauge to the HUD of the Chimera, warning you of asymmetric lift from damage and notifying of the angle of blown lift.
• Added deployable AA Gun Container air defence turret, a 35mm precision AA gun. Comes in multipacks, Ibis & Tarantula can carry 1, Chimera can carry 2.
• Temporarily disabled Fire Control Cabin whilst I investigate why it prevents SAMs from firing (current prediction is the commander is playing ZZZ on the computer rather than actually telling gunners where to shoot)
• Adjusted AI landing parameters to hopefully make them less crash prone

[merry axle]

ternion liveries are on the workshop

it is approaching

[west magnet]

thank you Aryx, I'll eat good today

[glossy bane]

Soonion™ strikes again

[pastel peak]

Aryx you absolute madwoman. I love it.

[crude orbit]

:3

I'm excited

I love your work

[keen anvil]

im choking on peak

[keen anvil]

twist his WHAT

[indigo fossil]

Jeremy also put out the OST on YouTube. Tho I have to ask, why is Jeremy posting the music for a modded aircraft? And HOW are there liveries already if it's not even out yet?

[crude orbit]

the liveries are out due to
#livery-creation-and-discussion message

[indigo fossil]

But what do the actual NO devs have to do with the Ternion since they released the OST?

[crude orbit]

soundtrack for it was commissioned is all I know

[indigo fossil]

ah

[crude orbit]

idk who commissioned it nor do I feel like it's my business to know lol

all I know is someone did

[indigo fossil]

About the Chimera why does the recent update feature 2 files? Which one do I put?

[raw thistle]

both, new file is a custom logic for engines spinning

[crude orbit]

hoping to see it on the F-16 as well

[indigo fossil]

Why does the new 35mm container not target munitions?

[ornate charm]

being worked on

[craggy topaz]

noption arms race

[solemn skiff]

do I need the DLL for the Chimera in the plugin folder or nah

[green island]

afaik it all still goes in the plugins folder

[solemn skiff]

kay

oh, i didnt read

yep

[coral shoal]

It does, but missiles only, it's on bugtracker already

[ornate charm]

They commissioned Jeremy for it

[indigo fossil]

I beg your FINEST PARDON 😭

[indigo fossil]

[cloud barn]

hypothesis: Aryx put it on the wrong hardpoint (like was it 2 instead of 3?)

[unreal iris]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-peak-cinema-absolute-cinema-gif-2419960068189387292

DONT CHANGE IT, IT'S SO PEAKKKKK

[cloud barn]

shouldn't the tula be able to carry 2x AA container instead of 1x because its containter-sized and it can carry 2x Munitions container?

and the ibis can carry 2x

[ornate charm]

WHY IS IT ON THERE

IT SHOULD BE ON THE CARGO BAY 😭

[ornate charm]

ya it'll be shifted to the fore & rear bays, just need to set it up

[ornate charm]

yeah the left/right pylon separation goosed it

whoops

[indigo fossil]

What does this mean?

[cloud barn]

means it was on the wrong pylon

[coral shoal]

It got there by mistake and will be put in the normal place next patch

[indigo fossil]

What? the AA container?

[cloud barn]

yes, the aa container

[indigo fossil]

Hold on... Fusolage Pylons...

[ornate charm]

index association of the weapon manager

the new update split the fuselage/stub pylons

so everything I had set got offset

[cloud barn]

exactly what i was gonna say

[indigo fossil]

What plane has "Fusolage Pylons" in the loadout?

Lmao

[ornate charm]

Ibis' side pylons used to be it

[indigo fossil]

But why would the AA container be on a fusolage pylon to begin with?

[crude orbit]

LMFAO

[indigo fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-meme-gif-24380198

[cloud barn]

wrong number

[indigo fossil]

Ahhh so the container would have been like in the Cargo bay (ex: 2) but the new stub separation made 2 the door guns or something?

[cloud barn]

yep that

[indigo fossil]

Aryx how about AA container for the Cricket's ventral mount?

[crude orbit]

AA container for darkreach

and one for the vortex

[indigo fossil]

No but on a serious note: Is it possible to get KAR compatability for things like the R9, AA or S3 container?

And maybe just with QOL generally so I can tula the R9 container which makes more sense than just dehydrating-rehydrating an HLT R9 like a pack of instant ramen

[ornate charm]

it's supposed to be in the cargo bay

[cloud barn]

I think it's the weapon that decides what each pylon it should be on so it might have to be the QOL or KAR mod that does it

[indigo fossil]

Wdym "Weapon"?

[ornate charm]

R9 doesn't fit in the tula

it barely fits in the Chimera cause I designed it to 😭

[indigo fossil]

But does the S3 one fit?

[undone summit]

Then make it smaller then bigger like qol

Quantum sizing

[ornate charm]

no

I like my shi making sense

[undone summit]

Yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1457841098415280229/1500652221426176062/attachment.gif

[cloud barn]

high-tech demo of why that happened (from POV of shockfront studios developing 0.33)

[indigo fossil]

Yeah I'm tired of P2082 crew claiming MSVs "don't fit" and then pack a dehydrated R9 HLT in the Tula

[indigo fossil]

Ironically the best way to explain

[undone summit]

Idk what im looking at

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[indigo fossil]

high-tech demo of why that happened (from POV of shockfront studios developing 0.33)

[undone summit]

Idk what im looking at

[indigo fossil]

by idiottvhownottolive [NUKE],

[undone summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413377482601533538/1483971155416059954/giphy.gif

[indigo fossil]

It's the explanation to why AA container on gun doors of the IBIS

#1497065625997283428 message

[tribal canyon]

i know whats going on, its ust funny

[merry axle]

Very gud

[cyan hinge]

Can you invite me to your modding server

[ornate charm]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1496884757961904312

[meager compass]

yknow the chimera is very fun to use but sometimes kind of annoying due to the feeling that its radar cross section is the apparent size of the moon viewed from the moon

[tired tulip]

Yeah, its a cargo plane...

[meager compass]

i have question
i have the first version of the mod sent in this channel so do i need to remove the base mod or do i just add this one ontop of it?
-# im new to modding please dont kill me

[solemn skiff]

Download the new version, unzip the contents (both the MC.Chimera.1.0.9 file and the Chimera.dll file), copy and paste said contents and delete the old version

(assuming you're modding it manually)

[plain kindle]

Turns out the ability to para drop pretty powerful ground units, carry a massive radar, or be a rail gun gunship does come with downsides!

Also not a criticism to the mod but damn this plane is floaty till it isn't. Most of my landings have been a lot harder then intended. She likes to bounce xD

[green island]

yes you don't really control your descent rate with pitch as much as with throttle

Since the blown flaps gives it some significant downwards thrust vectoring

more throttle = more float

no throttle and it drops right down

[plain kindle]

Yup and the margin for it is pretty thin it seems xD

[green island]

Yes

My best advice is to stay above 500 km/h until you're pretty much on glideslope and lined up for the runway, then use the very powerful speedbrakes to drop it down to like 260-300 km/h (if unloaded, faster if loaded).

And from there just feather the throttle up and down slightly between 1% and 15% or so to keep the FPV on the runway threshold

while holding your max pitch

[plain kindle]

Yeah, nice to have a plane that encourages deliberate landing approaches and not some of the silly maneuvers you get away with in the lighter planes.

[green island]

yup

This plane more than any other makes me wish airbrakes could be separate from throttle xD

So that I could just keep the brakes deployed and keep a bit more throttle to keep a more consistent lift

but ah it's fine

it's as you say, fun to have a plane you have to be a bit more deliberate with

[wheat marsh]

Why the plane bouncin on it

[deft notch]

It can take hard landings

[deft notch]

Jammers alleviate the issue somewhat, but you restrict your loadout a lot

I found it to be a very good anti-ship aircraft

[plain kindle]

Sink rate too high 🙁

[marsh coyote]

I know I've seen a mod for that around here somewhere, never tried it out myself.

welp, I can't find it now

[deft notch]

I wish I had GPWS

think I've died due to excessive sink rate while paying attention to something else (SAMs) more than once

too late to correct

[hasty yoke]

it can land and take off from grass btw

[ornate charm]

A certain annoying bug has been fixed.

[hasty yoke]

or almost from anywhere

[ornate charm]

tfw the STOL cargo plane designed to operate from dirt can stol and operate on dirt

bigass landing gear, high-mounted high twr engines with a blown wing,

[merry axle]

What bug do it be?

[ornate charm]

cockpit disappearing in thunderstorms

[merry axle]

I see

[plain kindle]

What's the top speed I can slide the MBT out the back without it exploding?

[merry axle]

Nobody knows

[green island]

Technically should be possible at the chimeras full speed buuuuut you need a very long flat stretch of ground for the tank to slow down.

for actual dirt landings I'd suggest being as slow as practical

[ornate charm]

Ideally as slow as you can go, main issue is the tank skidding and smashing into a mountain lmao

[ornate charm]

https://nuclearoptionmods.miraheze.org/wiki/MC-260_Chimera

wiki article :3

[solemn skiff]

:D

[meager compass]

very high up

[indigo fossil]

Soooo Aryx are we please getting the S3 container on the Tula 🥺

[wheat marsh]

Should I tell you that tula in Spanish can mean dick ?

[ornate charm]

dihrantula

[wheat marsh]

I saw it

https://tenor.com/view/31-minutos-bodoque-juan-carlos-bodoque-31-minutos-bodoque-31m-bodoque-gif-14013390876743812309

[rocky loom]

sublime

we should play on some occasion; haven’t found many others into this game locally, have you?

[tribal canyon]

@ornate charm
i genuinely want to know what caused the aa container to be a mount option on the ibis door guns

[ornate charm]

I got my boyfriend into it back in 2024 lmao

[ornate charm]

indexing

the 0.33 update split the pylons

which offset all the pylon option indices by 1

so when I assign a thing to index 2, which used to be the cargo bay, it's now the door guns

[tribal canyon]

alright i see
i understand that

[wheat marsh]

Not really though I don't complain

[reef elm]

drop tanks when?

[short mountain]

I see the cabin is back in 1.0.9(disabled in 1.0.8), is it still bugged?

[ornate charm]

It's back?

shouldn't be

[short mountain]

It's in the drop menu

[ornate charm]

might've turned it on when I was testing it to figure out why it was broken, whoops

[short mountain]

btw, isn't it the same bug as the one in BOTE?

Also had a bug with the r9 and the cabin.

As for the FCCabin. It might because of QOL, I'm playing with it right now. It's in the mission bay.

[visual nest]

Is it just me or does the plan love to roll to the right when not being rolled the other way?

Like very slowly just constantly roll right

[marsh coyote]

just found out APCs and IFVs can handle being kicked out of the back as you're in a controlled crash into the ground, at low altitude, while doing around 900km/h. ARH missile wrecked my tail and I couldn't manage a landing so I did what I could, the APC actually drove out of my wreckage

[solemn skiff]

Lol

[ashen monolith]

for some reason I cannot take off with high weight

even 60ton is too much

[dim fractal]

I've disabled this (before starting the mission), and plane still flips on takeoff.

[green island]

try restart game

instead of just pre-mission

[coral shoal]

also display startup animation too

[slim loom]

turn of display startup animation
dont forget to restart entire game

[worldly grail]

Probably one of the most versatile aircraft I've flown thus far… gunship, cargo, and bomber configs make every flight a different experience.

The ability to take off in 20 feet is definitely interesting (probably unintentional, but a funny thing to see😂).

Aircraft definitly handles like a cargo plane, but it can take a fair beating. The flares are also pretty strong when deployed against IR missiles... Usually one quick burst stops them.

Excited to see where this aircraft goes down the road

[deft notch]

It's intentional

Only possible with light payloads

[vapid summit]

i cant take off at all it just never goes up even th omy stick is all the way back and i get to like 500kph

ive had this with other modded planes like mig 15 and f16 but they work fine now idk why

[ornate charm]

are you using NOTT.

[vapid summit]

yea

guessing its that then

[rocky loom]

Used the chimera with NOTT this morning no problem

[tulip dome]

Honestly would love to see this kind of plane added to the actual base game

[merry axle]

There probably will be some kind of large transport plane in the future

[tulip dome]

Thats probably very true. Also nice pfp

[merry axle]

Thanks

[safe juniper]

One is planned along with the larger map for 0.35 apparently

[tulip dome]

Oh sweet

[queen wigeon]

using dual railguns while uncoventional, on breakout and vs stationary targets or ships it's extremely good

[merry axle]

It’s also really fun to smack ships from a distance while continually jamming them and leaving them effectively defenseless

[queen wigeon]

I dont find much use for the 57mm and 30mm just yet because of air defenses though, hopefully I can find a good usecase though

[slim loom]

all guided shells are great against ships actually
they get intercepted yes
but that means ships waste ammo
what i do is fire those shells until they run out of ammo and then just destroy them while they cant defend themselves

[queen wigeon]

the 57mm is guided?

[vapid summit]

this is my modlist i cant get it to take off at all stick all the way back it just shakes and doesnt point up the other aircraft mods work fine like the f16 which used to have the same problem

[karmic wolf]

If you're trying to pin down mod incompatibilities, the best thing to to is disable everything, then start with the affected mod, activating other mods one-by-one until you run into the issue again

Sometimes looking at the log can help you if something straight up breaks

[worldly grail]

i havent used the railguns too much... mainly just rotary guns.... maybe ill try being an anti-naval

[marsh coyote]

probably the easiest way to take out enemy naval targets right now, just railgunning them with this plane with dual railguns from 40km+ away

at least for PVE. I'm sure alert players would make things difficult in pvp situations, I just don't run pvp

[merry axle]

PVE superior, PVP, alright I guess depends on your mood

[plain glacier]

why does the chimera refuse to take off?

[raw thistle]

do you have NOTT?

Nuclear Option TactiTools

[plain glacier]

ah

that conflicts?

[raw thistle]

yes, but only countermeasures screen in particular

if you turn cm screen off in the settings of the NOTT - it will work fine

[plain glacier]

got it

tyty

[solemn skiff]

Outta curiosity, if I install NOTT manually, is there any way I could disable that manually

Or should I consider nabbing a mod manager and having it do it

[raw thistle]

yes, iirc there should be a settings menu if you press f1 while in-game

[solemn skiff]

Ohh

I see

What does NOTT contain again? I see alotta folks use it but uhh

Yeah

[solemn skiff]

I'm pressing F1 and I don't seem to be able to see it,

wait, I have the FS-3 patched NOTT and.. My Chimera flies fine?

Even F-16 as well.

I dunno,

[vestal verge]

the F-16 is compatible

as for what causes the bug when an aircraft is incompatible, it's the cockpit weapon and countermeasures display

[solemn skiff]

I think all the aircraft is compatible right now due to the new patches made,

I think?

[vapid summit]

i dont understand what mod it is thats causing my issues as all the other plane mods work fine tho ive had the same issue wit hthe f16 and mig 15 until nott got fixed

[forest iris]

are you entirely sure about this? disabling that did not fix the issue of the plane going full nosedive

[vestal verge]

NOAutopilot is also known to break custom aircraft

[forest iris]

thanks

[ornate charm]

F-16 is compatible

Only Chimera isn't

[solemn skiff]

Ahh I see

[solemn skiff]

I took several dozen anti-air damage, lost an engine and suffered an engine fire. Thought none of it up until 3 minutes later my pilot started getting strawberry jam in their face, annnd the Chimera was starting to nose down for no reason whatsoever, so I finally decided to do a damage check and see what was going on.

"Oh."

[gusty musk]

the chimmy is a tank until it gets hit in its very specific weakspot (humongous fuel tank) 😔

[solemn skiff]

that the funny 4x4 thingo in the middle of the aircraft..?

I noticed that went red, which led to the beginning of the end

[gusty musk]

possibly, idk much about its damage display

[ornate charm]

yeah fun fact: the Chimera’s entire upper fuel system is connected lmao

if you have an inner wing fire you gotta land immediately because you have about 90 seconds before you burn down

[deft notch]

is there a fire warning

no right

i think that explains why i got hit once, tried to crashland but suddenly burst into an explosion out of nowhere.... huh

on that note i wish there was more incentive to crashland in this game

[ornate charm]

the centreline fuselage fuel tank has a propensity to explode once it burns down fully

rather violently, that’s usually what kills the crew lmao

[merry axle]

I think turning off the GCAS with NOAutopilot makes it work fine on takeoff, I’ll have to test it when I get back home

[merry axle]

It is so evil

[vapid summit]

just tried it and no gcass made zero differance

really hope its made compatible or nott is improved so modded planes are good from the start as i would really like to use this mod a cargo plane is the 1 big aircraft type still missing

[vapid summit]

wait how are you using nott without the autopilot mod it says its required for me

[vapid summit]

i do not understand anymore lol

i tried with just this mod and nott and it doesnt work

its clearly nott thats causing it as it flys fine with no nott

[merry axle]

where did the AA containter go?

i dont see it anywhere

nvm

i didnt update the NOMM chimera

[brave raft]

john after discovering people can manually install mods

[solemn skiff]

Theres apparently a NOTT release thats config’d to the FS-3, but yeah I’m a manual installer of N.O mods as I find it rather shrimple to do

[sand summit]

In the NOTT section of this forum, there is a pinned message explaining exactly which setting you need to turn off for it to work. About a month old, it really should be pinned here too

[slim loom]

flying a damaged chimera sometimes makes me wish there was a huge civilian airliner in the game just to see how it would behave while under fire

[solemn skiff]

Shooting down big aircraft is always satisfying

[gusty remnant]

YES

[plain kindle]

Me in my Tarantula/Chimera looking at the full speed schimitar flying across the map.

[solemn skiff]

As a F-16M pilot, I apologise.

But you simply are too big of a target for me to not say no to.

My greed is indefinite. (As my pfp also suggests geeheehaw)

[plain kindle]

Its okay I know I'm worth 13 points xD

Still haven't tried the Raddome Ablative Armor method yet...

[solemn skiff]

yaknow.. a friend once told.. you should angle your aircraft so that it only takes damage in non critical areas...

[wind plinth]

YES!YES!YES!

i dont know why in battles the bots tend to overload the mc260

[deft notch]

the AI can't even takeoff properly

they don't handle well with the wing thrust stuff

[wind plinth]

is there a way to solution this

[brave raft]

Could be quality of life issue

[indigo fossil]

I don't think so. Last time I checked the Chimera can't actually carry QOL ordenance, at most it can load the modified AGM-98s or any other bomb the mod changes. But it can't carry PAB-350LRs or ARAD-58s

[brave raft]

Yeah but it’s not the fact it can’t carry qol weapons hit it glitches out other mods

Not sure tho

[waxen jungle]

Is it natural that every time I see MC-260 my brain says "m-mommy"

[ornate charm]

tbh have you seen the humanised version of her?

[waxen jungle]

eheheheheh... no...

[merry axle]

ive not experienced this but it certainly looks great

[wheat marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

.................what

[waxen jungle]

foond it
#1486563120339095674 message

[ornate charm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1486563120339095674/1500228813488132267/image.png?ex=6a0ebeb6&is=6a0d6d36&hm=b11d660d68f8166ee07bc4b8dc91fa9c77d85a1cd04613b23db29745838c74ef&

god bless Vintage

[solemn plaza]

I didn't know i needed to see a humanized plane more than this one before, thanks for sharing a masterpiece

[ornate charm]

she's so bad

it's insane

[solemn plaza]

my lawyer has advised me to shut up

You have also made me wanna make a mod for this game, and will spend countless hours learning everything

[wheat marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/engraçado-meme-funny-memes-funny-pansa-gif-6061064319149332554

Fat ahh plane

[random wadi]

There is a human version???

[nocturne parrot]

why do i have no fuel when i spawn it in

[dull sigil]

Dear, admin. I want to ask something. I'm not sure if this is the problem on the mod or in my game.

But when i play a single player match and the AI try to fly this plane, they always nosedive through the ground, just right after take off.

I mean, not always, but most of the times.

Does anyone know what the problem is?

Here's the list of the mod i installed in my game.

• QoL
• NOTT
• F16
• The new helicopter mod
• That kesper plane mod
• And the mod that skip the empty weapon.
• Forgot to add this, i also have the mod that equalize the production for the modded plane.

[fossil loom]

i experience this too but without NOTT and the kestrel

taking off with it is fine as a player but ai cant seem to do it

isolating the mod by itself works for ai and players but some other mod conflicts with it i think

[shy glacier]

not sure if NOTT still breaks Modded aircraft, but try removing NOTT

[vestal verge]

the AI doesn't know how to handle the blown wing gimmick

also, since u have NOTT, have u disabled the weapon and countermeasure display feature? it breaks the Chimera's aerodynamics

[coral dove]

To be fair, the handling of the chimera is all over the place depending on the load. Even empty, it's a struggle at times. No wonder the AI can't get it off the ground.

[safe juniper]

I've seen plenty of AI flying them in my setups

[dull sigil]

Yep, i read the chat in here. So i already figured that out and disabled it beforehand.

[dull sigil]

Like i said, not always, but most of the time. Try it in agropol airbase, i see most of my ai crash happen there.

[dull sigil]

I'll try that later, man. Thanks. I might also try every mod combination and figure which one might work.
If not, i could just always wait for the fix.

[dull sigil]

Yeah, i also think so.
Because i got no problem the first time i try this mod with the f-16 mod.

[solemn plaza]

Top message from op says they have issues on their end to make it compatible

[still agate]

Seems like the easier runways (like some at the pala bases in ignus) are a lot easier for the AI to manage

[hardy epoch]

Hey Aryx, can you pin download links so people don't have to scroll about?

[dull sigil]

Just press jump to the top, brother. It's on the upper right of your screen. Just beside the following and copy link button.

[hardy epoch]

I did not see that, thanks

[livid sand]

A bit late, but here's the OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PQzRnjjUTU

[rocky loom]

great showcase

[rigid monolith]

ok one question, how do i spawn moded vehicle into vanilla escalation ?

[livid sand]

You mean, for the bots to use?

You gotta use the mission editor, and add factories
But be aware that bots are... pretty bad at flying the Chimera

[rigid monolith]

no i mean for me to use

like it says aircraft not available here

like huh ?

[livid sand]

Is your Blueprinter updated?

[rigid monolith]

ohhh

ye

sure

[livid sand]

Send a screenshot of your mod folder, please. Everything should be working if you have the latest Blueprinter version

[rigid monolith]

oh, i meant it sacarstic

i just updatet blueprinter

[livid sand]

Ah, gotcha

[rigid monolith]

trying it again

hahahaha

[livid sand]

Everything should be fine now :)

[rigid monolith]

yes its working now

thx my Temporary acquaintance

[livid sand]

You're very welcome, have fun flying the birbs 🫡

[steep elk]

Right click game, select "Browse local files" -> download Bepinex and extract to NO local files -> run game once -> return to Bepinex folder and place mod files in newly created plugin folder -> great success

I salute you, fellow manual modder

[steep elk]

The timing here was...interesting 💀

[slim loom]

all of the passengers died

[verbal canyon]

https://youtu.be/ERGfao1Acqc

[azure saffron]

has anyone else noticed the back little flaps on the chimera are like detached from the rest of the craft

[reef elm]

theres AI chimeras spawning with impossible loadouts causing them to crash on takeoff

[calm glacier]

Am I the only one who can never seem to hit a damn thing with the side mounted railgun? What am I doing wrong?

[steep elk]

AFAIK AI cannot fly the Chimera properly as it cannot handle the blown wing properly.

(read: at all)

[next atlas]

You are not. With no guidance and a max range of only 10km, it's rough out there

[karmic wolf]

You may want the #1496867175804174426 mod, and the other thing you may want to do is pay close attention to the target cam MFD

for turreted weapons it has a white box indicator

center the dot within the box and you'll get much more accurate shots that way

keep in mind that dispersion, jitter, speed and whatnot still make it very hard to hit small targets beyond 50km

at that point you can only reliably hit larger targets

[next atlas]

50km? holy crap

I barely got it to hit reliably at 8

[steep elk]

Keep in mind that the increased accuracy from the Gun Fire Control Fix mod goes both ways

https://tenor.com/view/two-way-sword-will-ferrell-anchorman-gif-10865503

[wheat marsh]

A mod fixes that ???

I was having the same thing where I failed too many shots against relatively slow shards, immobile carriers and the like on 30kms

[rocky loom]

what would happen if you had that mod active in mp tho? does it auto disable?

[steep elk]

Definitely saving this one for later, I'm in a Valheim modding server where a common bug report after release was "I tried installing it with the mod manager and it didn't work"

Behold, the modpage:

[reef elm]

ive seen ai chimeras get off the ground successfully and operate until they're killed but thats the minority of cases, but whether or not they can cope with the blown wing, having a radome, tank, and gunship weapons all at once is grounding them

[dull sigil]

Now i know why the AI can't fly this plane, appearantly they're just overloaded. Like seriously, 4 HLT Radar truck and railgun!? How is that even fit!?

And there's also this, the AI could take off because the loadout is not as heavy as the one in my first video, but not for long.
I'm not sure if this is caused by another mod.

[slim loom]

how did they fit 4 trucks in a plane that has 2 spaces...

[unique sandal]

Is probably somehow the AI ignoring the cargo bay restrictions, so it is stacking the mission bay with a radar truck, then fitting 3 other items (probably jackknife x2 + some other vehicle), it looks like 4 since the game isn’t too great with differentiating cargo bay items (meaning the display is only showing whatever is the first cargo to drop out)

[vestal verge]

@slim loom
better question: how did they fit 4 radar trucks, a railgun, a 57mm rotary, a radome, and 2 demolition bombs in this plane

[solemn skiff]

they rapidly de-atomize and re-atomize the item to fit it inside the Chimera

[glossy lark]

Well that explains a lot. Oof.

[glossy lark]

By the way, I filed a bug report in the Aryx's shipyard discord with these videos.

https://discord.com/channels/1486563118820888687/1508874658227687675

It'll probably help if as many people as possible describe that problem there so that the source of the bug can be found and fixed.

[crisp ruin]

Anyone what the best altitudes/speed for airdropping the air defence containers and apcs with the chimera is?

[green island]

I never got around to making it super exact. but usually 2km from your drop target for the first deployable if at 900km/h.

2.5-3km for second deployable since it takes significantly longer to roll out of the cargo bay.

I usually drop from 130m-200m radar alt.

though as long as you can calculate when you're about 2km from the target horizontally, higher altitudes is just fine

[glossy lark]

I presume it is calculable.
Here's a publicly available USAF manual that's vaguely relevant:
https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a3/publication/afman11-231/afman11-231.pdf

Obviously assume no forward drive. You may need to multiply by 1852 since

Multiplying the answer by 1852 converts the answer from nautical miles to meters

[slim loom]

why are there physics calculations in my game 😭

[gusty musk]

Cause quoting mitch,

[shy glacier]

One that I'm not really sure was even all that profitable

[crisp ruin]

Il give that a go if I get a chance to play tonight, as of yet I’ve only figured out the rolling drop offs as I have yet to figure out what all has parachutes

[edgy kindle]

ehhhh idk

it was 14.99 for most of the release I think but, ballpark estimate

plus paying devs and shi

[livid sand]

Developing games can really pay off, if you have an idea and if you're good enough to execute it

As well as being willing to spend ungodly amounts of hours on making it happen lmao

[unreal iris]

Considering that nuclear option has sold around 271,00 copies at what I'll say is 19.99 per copy, that adds up to around 5 million

Along with still selling more copys by the day

If we want to support the devs , we can ask content creators to play the game, or we by ourselves can make video's, or mention the game to freinds and family who like the genre!

(Very rough estimate of how much they have made)

[brave raft]

Thats a lot of copies

[ocean socket]

Also tax is gonna eat so so much of that, also sales :3

It could very well be as low as half of that before spending is accounted for over the years.

[edgy kindle]

my screenshot is from a website that takes that into account so its closer to 1.4m

[ocean socket]

That feels a bit more right over the years~

[crisp ruin]

Tested it for awhile and found 2.5km for first drop at 900~ km/h at around 150M altitude to work best for airdrops. Dropped the second at around 3.5-4

[reef elm]

bros driving to the objective

[twilit ginkgo]

having this weird issue where R-9 launchers with a radar and fire control cabin dont lock on and fire at anything

[twilit ginkgo]

other thing is, why doesnt this thing pitch up sometimes?

[brave raft]

Rear heavy

[reef elm]

the fire control cabin this mod adds shuts down everything around it for reasons unknown

[twilit ginkgo]

tf 😭

so how do you get the r-9 to work

[solemn plaza]

they still will work without a control cabin, just wont seperate missiles per threat.

[ornate charm]

yeah it’s due to be disabled because of this, fire control stuff doesn’t work unless preplaced in the mission

[coral shoal]

target for my next investigation is set (if none of this container is in DLL, it's again some kinda checkmark in Unity)

[reef elm]

the tarantula's fire control cabin functions as intented even with the bespoke r9 launcher from the mc-260

[coral shoal]

Thats QoL thing and it spawns actual vanilla BDF-side truck encountered on maps

[rapid ocean]

Does anyone know the max ranges for the guns? (Rail gun chaingun and rotary one)

[ornate charm]

Effective range is 10-15km for the railgun, 10km for the chaingun and 3-6km for the rotary
the railgun has a very long potential range (100km) but you will literally never hit anything at this range

[green island]

I think also notably you can hit shards and boltstrikes (a bit inconsistently but you can hit them) from >20km with the railguns

[rapid ocean]

So railgun Is Better for like Bigger Targets? (Like factories or aircraft revamenets or whatever they're written)

[ornate charm]

ya