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[light edge]

🤣

[tranquil shale]

😂

[weary egret]

smh

[graceful wigeon]

Anyone know what build i should use for martin

[hidden moat]

What should I do? XD

[graceful wigeon]

skill tree wise

[light edge]

zombie hunter 👉 👈

[tranquil shale]

Martin only gud for zombie hunting and healing.

[hidden moat]

...

[tranquil shale]

Nothing

[hidden moat]

Really Just like that? they will cheat me

[tranquil shale]

New account so

Event not yet open for you

[hidden moat]

is there no support here?

[hidden moat]

Jajaaja very funny.

[tranquil shale]

No. Only ingame

Settings - help - live chat

[tranquil shale]

Not joking. Seriously.

[hidden moat]

Thank you

[graceful wigeon]

So all zombie tree nothing else?

[magic silo]

He's not really worth expressly getting a higher level on
I think there's still pins for optimal zb hunter tree in #🌟┊new-player-help

Go blue tree after zombie tree. Only need one hero that's got zb tree into the rally bonuses, cause only can have 1 rally at a time

[graceful wigeon]

yea thats what i want him for

[tranquil shale]

@hidden moat some ways to get advance search maps.

1. Event - water war
2. Event - Glorious revival
3. Event - News - st. Patricks day lucky draw. Depend on luck
4. pacificrim lottery event from dls site
5. 2ndanniversary event from dls site
6. try old gift codes

[hidden moat]

Thanks brother

Appreciate you so much

[graceful wigeon]

wait is it true that when pair heros

only the person leading skill tree is used

[tranquil shale]

Yes /no

[graceful wigeon]

damn

[tranquil shale]

And passive skill of 2ndary

[graceful wigeon]

martin is support

so you wouldnt want him leading

[tranquil shale]

Doesn't matter. U r using him for zombie killing

[graceful wigeon]

yea but he would be my 2nd

not my leader

[tranquil shale]

Ok.Then who primary

[graceful wigeon]

still trying to figure out who i want to use

jayden maybe\

[tranquil shale]

Use Peggy, russell

Ya Jaden

[graceful wigeon]

dont have them. i have calamity sisters and jayden for zombie hunters

[south ember]

Talent tree is only primary.
Both heroes skills are used

[graceful wigeon]

who would pair well with raigoro

[tranquil shale]

2ndary passive skill only

[south ember]

Peggy, Martin, Russell and jaden are just for zombies

[tranquil shale]

Akimo also u can use for zombie

[graceful wigeon]

yea i want a team of zombie hunters then a range squad and infantry

[magic silo]

Hes only viable as garrison lead with riven assistant.
If youre talking zombies and stuff, anything you want. Something with damage to balance out his complete lack of it is best

[magic silo]

The setup goal should be 5 zombie hunter squads for hunting zombies
Then a different 5 squads for combat with totally different heroes.
1 range and 1 infantry is a good starting goal, pick a legendary lead for each to aim for
Miyamoto or bodala, and Sophie would be best

[graceful wigeon]

i have louis and norah for my range. I have sophie but i need to work on her as well as jack bronte. my zombie squad will be jayden and martin. thats what i have so far. still working on the rest

im thinking tom and raigoro for infantry

[magic silo]

Unless youre going to be a big spender, I'd recommend abandoning jack asap
He will be way too costly to upgrade skills

[magic silo]

Try to have skill tree leader for every squad. Tom raigoro is ok to start, hyper defensive which doesn't work in most contexts the way damage scales in this game

[magic silo]

Theres definitely phases to the game- like nora is ok early mid tbh, but long term is really inferior as well.
For war you absolutely need the lucky roulette and top commander heroes these days long term. The power creep is in full force.
Many of the older police station heroes and nora will serve you for a time, but wasting xp, badges and fragments on them will cripple you long term

[graceful wigeon]

Well i have sophie for late game

but she needs alot of work

[echo atlas]

the alliance I'm in, swapped leader. but the game did not recognize it. so now neither of them are "leader"

IGG please

[graceful wigeon]

Is sophie a good late game hero

[echo atlas]

she's one of the best ranged rn

[graceful wigeon]

who pairs well with her. i only have jack bronte norah and louis for range

[trim quail]

Until they come out with another broken hero that surpasses her after you invested time, frags, exp books and maybe even money in her

[echo atlas]

ya, that's how it is. old heroes get power creeped that's how IGG makes their money

although, sometimes they are "good" for a while tho, like bella

she lasted for a long time until they released chasey and her charm skill, they had to nerf it at some point

[echo atlas]

jack is not too bad, or louis for sophie's partner

if you can max jack, jack

but since they released louis for police car(gacha pull) probably easier to max

[magic silo]

Sophie will have a lot of longevity because she shifted the core mechanics of the game- 900 rage requirement, very high damage, and very high survivability make her hard to beat.
It will be years at the current rate before she's obsolete if ever

[echo atlas]

ya sophie gud fr

[graceful wigeon]

yea my louis is my strongest hero right now

[magic silo]

heroes like that that bend the established mechanics and have such a high mix of things like dmg reduction/hp with very high skill factors are really going to be hard to beat without some really insane power creep jump

5.5% completely unsituational damage reduction is massive

[echo atlas]

ari not wrong fr

[trim quail]

I can’t even manage to get Sophie in roulette. I spin and spin and spin, Nothing 🤣

[echo atlas]

ari help meh, i got alliance leader bug

[magic silo]

This is the real problem haha, it is BRUTAL

[magic silo]

me too tbh, being alliance leader just is a bug

[south ember]

🥹 my sophie gets massacred on field

[trim quail]

TC used to be somewhat manageable but now without dropping a hefty penny, can’t get decent rewards in roulette. And then when the whales get over 300 million plus points, and all you can get maybe highest of 20th place, the rewards aren’t worth it

[echo atlas]

nah, i mean i swapped leader from farm to farm, but it bugged out and now nobody is leader. the certain actions (like promoting people to r4) is locked

[magic silo]

maybe it's that skill 3 max

[echo atlas]

also tried to leave the alliance to try to fix it, i cant leave

cant disband the alliance either because it's a leader action

wtf IGG

[magic silo]

i got scooped out of 1st this past one by 50k points in the last minute.
Was still trying to use my stuff
I will never recover from this tbh, i will be angry about it until i die

[echo atlas]

cucked outta first place is wild

[magic silo]

Maybe once the server has time to settle it will resolve. I'd just wait for a day or something if it's not urgent.
All you can do is submit CS ticket

[south ember]

Mines 5155 but always swarmed

[echo atlas]

it happens often tbh

[sage current]

You've got to have at least 50k in the hospital, with speedups ready, watching until the last 15 seconds.

[magic silo]

yeah, that's why i like 2, it helps you just shuffle in and out a little more. Theres always another sophie to get swarmed out there haha

i got SO many points in GW field fights with her it was wild

[magic silo]

i had 28d i rushed in the last 5 minutes.
I also rushed all my speedups and used my last 400 arrows
Still had 400 hone chips but so slow

[trim quail]

Sounds about right. Getting sniped at the last minute is pretty normal nowadays

[south ember]

I got 1st in tc but stele was sniped from 2nd to 3rd

[magic silo]

i was watching like hawk, but literally ran out of time.
He had jumped 4M ahead in the last 40m and i didnt have time to check how many points of speeds i had left so i didnt want to leave it too last second

had to make a lot of points

[sage current]

I had a back and forth for 10th place with some guy in the last 10 minutes. I eventually conceded though and just healed 5 days to jump up to 9th so he could still get 10th and stop bothering me.

[magic silo]

stele is even worse. the one i thought id get 1st on i ended up 4th. People literally showed up ahead of me after the scoreboard posted, i watched it as it ticked to 0

[magic silo]

This guy was just buying arrows left and right, or had an endless hoard. I assumed if he was sitting on them he'd just use them to kind of call my bluff

[south ember]

They spend it all last minute so that the scoreboard doesn't update until it's too late

[trim quail]

But the reward to effort ratio ain’t even worth it. I used to save for a month or so and fare pretty well. Now, can’t even do that

[magic silo]

but i kept passing him by killing zombies all weekend, then he'd jump in great hunter ranking and be ahead of me again lol. He ended 1st in great hunter by like 1k arrows loool

[magic silo]

regional was definitely better in most cases for higher placements, but for getting heroes unlocked the new one is much easier

I still really hate the loss of the universal frags as phase rewards though

that was stingy af

[magic silo]

And this i think is what tc guy did, im just annoyed that it was basically coin flip, neither one of us knew where other one was at anymore, and he happened to be just 50k points ahead

the announcement in region even said I won and i was so happy LOL

then i check my mail and got 2nd place rewards

and look at scoreboard

so fkn mad

[echo atlas]

you got baited by system announcement

[trim quail]

Maybe dude paid a Dev off to mess with you 🤣

[magic silo]

fr 😭

shoulda just gave us both 1st place rewards tbh

we were like 100M over the 3rd place person loool

if you make enough points you should have some guarantees.

I wonder if more people would use more stuff and buy more stuff in TC then

so many just keep hoarding when it looks bad day 1

i didn't spend a penny in the bidding war for 1st

[tacit marsh]

Should quit the game

[magic silo]

probs

[echo atlas]

somewhere, skynet stirrs

[tacit marsh]

Come join me in my game, immigration is locked for 6 months when a realm opens.

[magic silo]

for now

[south ember]

Original immigration was basically impossible for a couple years

[tacit marsh]

Shhh not every game dev is as greedy, or incompetent as igg.

[magic silo]

yet

[wind yew]

I feel like most are actually more greedy contrary to what might be thought

[south ember]

It's not the dev making that decision

[magic silo]

True, i mean igg is not the LEAST greedy either by a long shot though haha

[tacit marsh]

I don't know, im getting more bang for my buck in this one than dls. Skins are maybe $100 and hero unlocks are free or like $25.

[wind yew]

Surely lol

[south ember]

Ichigo swapped money pits?

[magic silo]

foooooooooor nooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww

[tacit marsh]

Yeah, I quit dls lol

[wind yew]

Games smaller probably, games got more incentive to keep things cheaper if a games more large scale you can up the raking

[magic silo]

yes, and at the end of the day, still spending hundreds on stuff that is objectively bad

[wind yew]

And less people will quit given the investment and already large community it's like big businesses at some point you're too big to fail

Atleast not overnight

[south ember]

Heroes here were basically free if you saved up or had organzied order when it was region only

[tacit marsh]

Am not! XD

[tacit marsh]

I quitted despite the amount I paid into it.

[tacit marsh]

Yeah heros are free here too if you save, but i don't wanna.

[wind yew]

Yeah but it's hard to do not everyone can come to that, and those that do are like you they took so and so long given they already spent so much money

I mean I'm sure my mom wouldn't have spent 200k on heckfire she just couldn't get herself to quit 🤣 finally did and now she's playing that sht again

[tacit marsh]

I just hope igg goes bankrupt

[magic silo]

i never had to spend anything for a useful hero lol

only chumps who got cath and jin

[tacit marsh]

I regret Jin...

Was buying him and than bam! Bard! Pfft

[wind yew]

Goodluck with that wish

[tacit marsh]

Hey they have unstable stocks, it's not that big of a long shot xD

[magic silo]

tbf i was telling you he wasnt worth it long before bard

[tacit marsh]

Shhh miss makes sense.

Why yall gotta bully me 😭

[south ember]

He was used with Julia before bard came out, but yea he was always very niche and not used at all now

[magic silo]

yeah and people were using him with eddie still too, i just don't think he'd been the best choice for a long time

[south ember]

I think eddie jin before stella and bodega was the only use left

[subtle rune]

AFK in BG 😝😝

[south ember]

How'd you get so high afk

[subtle rune]

I don’t even know.. I log in and seen it 😂😂

[tranquil shale]

In the new chip event, 1st player is with 990k points. Wtf

[magic silo]

mine has been well over 1M since a few hours after it started lol

[south ember]

highest I've seen is 500k

Is awakened potential changed? There's a link to it in this new event

[magic silo]

no idea i literally just go full robo mode in beast stuff 😆

i assume it is the same, that was the little mini do mission things, get the coin things, buy the pristine life, move on with life thing?

[south ember]

Yea

Maybe they added chips to the coin store?

[scarlet pewter]

How can i come in these ranking ?

[south ember]

Did you do the missions to unlock all the slots

[scarlet pewter]

So now we have to spend to get in rankinh also ?

[final gale]

How many points you gain so far

I don't spend I'm already at 28k points

[scarlet pewter]

How to checj it ?

This new event i dont understand

[final gale]

Did you not claim anything from the afk thing?

[scarlet pewter]

I rid

[final gale]

Weird

[scarlet pewter]

It showing now
Ooo men how i get 200k points for reward

How to score more plints in this thing

[final gale]

Unlock more slots for the afk thing

All you need to do is do the missions

[south ember]

Did you not come on at reset?
How many slots do you have open

[scarlet pewter]

I come on 13 utc ant time

I was in eternal sleep

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-11437316614611695342

[south ember]

Did you do the missions?
You're probably just a bit behind because you missed half a day

[scarlet pewter]

Wait i show you

[waxen lily]

[south ember]

You didn't fo beast invasion, did you do daily arena, the squad might one, I think a beast training one too

[scarlet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/blush-anime-girl-cute-embarrassed-gif-2263088408448528294

We gotta do all things man time to entrust someone , thanks for help

[final gale]

I think you should have unlock all lvl 2 slots on the exploration before going third... Especially when you don't have the x2 beast

[scarlet pewter]

I was just clicking red dots

[sage current]

Does AL start tomorrow or is there a day of unnecessary "matching?" I never remember this.

[south ember]

I think it starts tomorrow

[sage current]

Darn. I accidentally sent out my gathering squads with just enough to finish one node. No double node head start for the gathering mission.

Oh, that. Nevermind,

[wind yew]

Billion dollar company still a billion dollar company

[scarlet pewter]

Gimme one millonn from it

I spend 100k instant on igg and take rest go to Malibu

[sage current]

There's nothing in Malibu any more.

[scarlet pewter]

Why

[sage current]

Fire

[scarlet pewter]

Who did this

[sage current]

Sparks or something, and wind. I don't actually know how much of Malibu burned but I know a lot of stuff did.

[scarlet pewter]

Plan changed i am going to Alaska now , gimme 1m dollar someone

[south ember]

The California fires, so mostly the climate

[scarlet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-baby-sad-agnes-please-gif-16097001420698130990

[south ember]

Why Alaska, are you gonna become a fisherman

[scarlet pewter]

I think i should start seeing news now i didn’t knew it happened

[sage current]

Alaska is pretty cool.

[south ember]

Alaska only nice in summer though

[scarlet pewter]

Gimme money and i tell you

[south ember]

No

[scarlet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-guitar-snowparty-happy-snow-day-playing-guitar-gif-8102603

[sage current]

Disagree. It can get uncomfortable in summer. Winter is best: always cold and dark, no bugs

[scarlet pewter]

Fund me and i will check it for you guys

[south ember]

But it's really cold in winter

[plush sluice]

Happy paddy's today to all who celebrate it 😜

[scarlet pewter]

More cold = no AC needed can save lot of electricity bill

[south ember]

Expensive heating bill though

[scarlet pewter]

Can open fire

Nature gift

Wear 3 jackets 2 blanket

No refrigerator needed

How much is your guys ????

[south ember]

Mines 272

[sage current]

204 😦

[scarlet pewter]

How

[bleak stream]

I'm at 280 without legendary beasts. You can use copies to get 2x bonus. I'm using 3 purple bulls in physical area

[south ember]

Unlock the slots put doubles in

Some of them you could even do with 3 dogs

[bleak stream]

Yep

[surreal kite]

hii lo

sa doomsday poba ito

[nocturne hawk]

Hi all i'm curious about chun and her problem with restoring rage,playing ranged all and my team now is julia+master jin sophie+ethan chun+louis lynne and bard are awaken but no since to me to put bard on the field and don't see like good replacment to julia or chun since that chun have it problem with restoring rage think that only louis or master jin is good like assistant,lynne is good but don't see her with chun becouse of problem with rage my squad 4 is miyamoto+thunder and 5 elena+bianca support on the field i'm t6 player and this all are awaken heroes, vip 14, curious only moustly like about chun even with good weapons she get killed easier much than another squads

[slim bluff]

If you dont have 2x Beasts in 3rd and 2nd slot you should swap them there, it can increase points earned

[slim bluff]

If you want 5 ranged squads you can go
Julia + Bard
Sophie + Ethan
Chun + Loius
Lynne + Jacob
Jack + Marco

Master Jin is sht
Bianca can be thown in for something if you want her

[nocturne hawk]

Thanks but bard have it bad trades on the field if i'm don't rally something or someone shelter so don't ussing him on the field,jacob i'm lost interest for that guy since the new heroes just pop up and old are garbbage,jack have it+lunne not bad good that you remind me,so buying jin was waisted money at all

[slim bluff]

Bard can be pretty good on the field after you transc his 3rd skill

[nocturne hawk]

Yes but i'm transcended only skill 1 him weapon is fully upgraded last tc i'm awake ethan

[ancient crystal]

i reported this issue to the devs

in a highly competitive game where every advantage matters we cant have people abusing copies it makes the game too easy

[slim bluff]

wrong choice to transc his 1st skill first if your a field player

[nocturne hawk]

I'm field and rally garnisson bro 3 in 1

[slim bluff]

You say Lynne is bad, but she isnt
She is by far the second best field ranged hero, 1st being Sophie
You can ask anyone they will say it

[nocturne hawk]

Didn't say that she is bad i'm adk about chun

Ask*

Lynne is good and will combine her with this guy from jeger good team

But somehow chun is easy killed faster than another squads she hits hard when use her skill but not sure about her more somehow becomes weak and meat on the field even with louis

[slim bluff]

Well most of ranged squads are like that, some die few seconds eariler than others some dont
In the end its all about how many ranged squads there are

If its only one, it will die first
If there are a bunch of them, it will be hard to deal with every single one imo

[nocturne hawk]

Sure that is clear but ranged squad and heroes will give you more kills than any another type if you are covered with infanatry and bikers aoe heroes are just the best for me that's why i'm forcing that type more than infanatry but again have it and miyamoto,adut,thunder... so ussing 3squads ranged 1infanatry for now don't like to use elena not ready yet but ussing sometimes to get more kills with ranged when they swarming her and bianca

[echo atlas]

[slim bluff]

In most real field battles you cant cover any squad
The enemy will most of the time choose and focus down squads whichever they like
And it will be ranged squad if you have it
Its not the same as arena

The only way to cheese this in real field battle is by having more ranged squads

[echo atlas]

I can confirm, I kill ranged first every time

[nocturne hawk]

I'm always use it squad expansion have it 1.5m t6 archers for now,thanks for advices by the way, in mine alliance allow us r4 forcing 1type biker infanatry and archers so when we go together i'm covered with them,or bikers will eat me if go allone only wit ranged that is for sure and hate when it happens haha

[nocturne hawk]

Biker player?

[echo atlas]

unfortunately I didnt really specialize, but heavier on inf bikers yes

5m inf 4m biker

[nocturne hawk]

Good choice, i'm make a mistake by choice second squad infanatry so account is 80% ranged and 20% infanatry bikers are big crap...

[echo atlas]

armaments are a rough power scaling too much money spent

im sitting at 5m 4m 3m 2m 2m

[nocturne hawk]

I'm at 4.2m 3m 3m 2.5m , still need to raise all,workshop is high only for archers lvl.15 attack lvl.8 deff for now parts all go to archers mean yellow and for infanatry are purple will continue to forcing ranged even more wont julia 5 6m and workshop 20 20 for ranged

Much money is spended already last tc cost me 300e+ all what i'm saved first place was expensive

503m points

[echo atlas]

I'm still saving

[nocturne hawk]

Niceee for what you will go?

[echo atlas]

i gotta be in a better financial situation for a successful TC

i just haven't really wanted to spend on TC yet, but I want to get bard/casey , we'll see

since I lean inf, i have stella, but those two will be next

unless those new heroes they boutta release (rider) is better than casey

even so, i think casey takes the place of bella so I might still go that way

(i use bella rn, she's been solid for a while now)

[nocturne hawk]

Better wait this new hero my advice i'm have it all possible ranged heroes but heroes like jacob and joker didn't raise much reason much new heroes and much fast so just waiting for now bard is awaken and ethan and wepons are fully upgraded

[nocturne hawk]

You are on the good way actually, i'm have it and chassie but she resting in shelter together with felix not sure that wont to spend on her already spend much on this account will recover this money never if give up once

[echo atlas]

oh, i never touched joker as soon as he released we knew he was bad

[magic silo]

I remember arguing literal years ago with people trying to say he was actually good, when julia was always better at countering healing 😆

[sage current]

I don't even know what John Kerry's skills are.

[echo atlas]

same fr

[nocturne hawk]

They are crap haha for me is 1 1 1 1 don't planing to change anything about it

[echo atlas]

holy moly, i just read the new rider, what a rally character

[ancient crystal]

game is on 2nd anniversary

[echo atlas]

if you keep refilling her and she doesnt die, that's wild

[sage current]

Just looked at them. Yeah, you'd think he would be good against Thunder specifically. And maybe as a third rally in AR it would be better than nothing

[ancient crystal]

anything that happened beyond 24 months ago is completely unreliable and irrelevant to the current meta

[echo atlas]

war howls*

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/superstore-amy-sosa-yeah-sure-sure-yeah-gif-25294747

[ancient crystal]

It was recently pointed out to me that Panda has been secretly making around $1500/mnth USD from his youtube

[magic silo]

Ok well Kerry was bad before the game left the womb, and after
So still relevant

[ancient crystal]

primarily from the fact that he has 8k subs and Youtube monetization prioritizes App game ads

so YT pays differently for markets in video games than say financials or beauty etc

so its in Pandas best interest to have people playing these games and spending because that is how he makes money on YT

Panda isnt some broke student living in his moms basement he is making bank on YT

[magic silo]

There was a tiny window where they patched the julia silence overlap, and there weren't super optimal alternate damage rally options, AND some people still used thunder, where he was ok yeah

[sage current]

Way too many people still use thunder.

[nocturne hawk]

Thunder is meat now in tower....sad but true

[magic silo]

And he's notoriously just hard pushing DLS to people

[echo atlas]

I hear garrison nowadays is stella bodala

look at what they did to my boi thunder

[magic silo]

True yeah, but it's one of those "1 is too many" situations
Not enough to be like "if no one was released after julia, joker would be good enough to level for 2nd 3rd rallies"

[nocturne hawk]

Infanatry the best garnisson old raigoro+riven against julia+bard

[magic silo]

Literally bodala is 10x better garrison and his flat stats don't even apply there

[magic silo]

🤔🤔🤔

[echo atlas]

nah ari, i did hear about that. but it's used as secondary garrison. like you already used your bodala stella

this raigoro riven combo

but usually im too busy out on the field/rallying to just stay in a tower and get my butt whupped

but ya, that's 45%

[south ember]

2nd anniversary of what

[echo atlas]

anniversary of dn

[sage current]

Genius! Why didn't we ask Slim in the first place?

[echo atlas]

🥜

[south ember]

Maybe slims the only one who knows

[nocturne hawk]

It was hard for me to swarm that tower even with julia/bard raigoro+riven actually works good against them way better than thunder for sure,thunder just died don't need even to refill much rally,now is good for multiple garnisson in events like gw where we need to keep more buildings,i'm off to bed guys thanks for convo

[magic silo]

I'm so confused
It's better than thunder though right? That's all I was saying
Bodala riven works great in pompeii as backup yeah

[south ember]

Who are you swarming

[echo atlas]

oh, i was sayin that stella bodala is holding somewhere/being used in rally. you can garrison something else with raigoro riven

I haven't used it in practice, but that's what i heard

[nocturne hawk]

Last ar mate

[slim bluff]

im saying Stella Riven is better

[south ember]

Isn't stella riven better

[magic silo]

I don't know what's happening

[nocturne hawk]

Yes sure

[south ember]

Swarming is for chasey only

[magic silo]

0 clue what the context of this is i was sure i didn't miss anything
I think it's like 4 conversations

[ancient crystal]

of the game

[magic silo]

The nice thing about Stella bodala is you can use it as a good rally to capture a point and hold it
Riven doesn't trade as well on the siege rallies in my experience

[echo atlas]

ya, but when your stella bodala is outside doing stuff, what you running riven with

[ancient crystal]

People only use Bodala if they dont have Eddie awakened

[magic silo]

Omfg no

[ancient crystal]

Stella and Eddie are the strongest rally to date

[slim bluff]

im making -$1500/month USD from playing this game

[echo atlas]

damn, that's more than what i make fr

[magic silo]

Infantry?
Debatable.
Also depends on your criteria for what makes it strong

There's a few people favouring bodala, it trades a lot better if you're even or lower strength than target garrison

[slim bluff]

7.5m Armaments and lvl 25 Workshop devices is what makes Bodala, Eddie, Stella or even Stan strong

[magic silo]

What if it's 7.5M vs 7.5M ?

[sage current]

Stan vs Stan

[slim bluff]

Then it will depend who has stronger Beast

[echo atlas]

nah foo, whatchu talking about, granny vs granny

[sage current]

Her name is Michelle, you know.

[magic silo]

The least debatable context for this argument is AR where 3 rallies can hit a tower.
Sending a Stella rally first is the best tactic unless you're team is way stronger than that garrison.
Pretty sure that's completely un-debatable.

So then it becomes who's the best co lead for Stella in that scenario?

Bodala trades better than eddie every time I've seen a comparable situation.
I've never imperically tested it obviously, but it doesn't surprise me.

[echo atlas]

(i only run eddie because i havent maxed bodala)

[slim bluff]

Eddie reduced the hp so other rallies preform better
Have you tested that from your trades?

[magic silo]

Yeah that would be the possibility, they get 2 turns of increased dmg from his hp debuff

And obviously not, since I just said I didn't test the combos.
It's only from similar rallies hitting similar garrisons. The eddie ones always had worse trades
But the biggest confouding factor is someone using a maxed bodala is more likely to have better arms etc than someone using a maxed eddie too.
They love new shiny things

[ancient crystal]

yah but good luck

no one has that that is like 1 person per AR so 1 in 2,000 people that 1 person is negated

[slim bluff]

Since when does having money involve luck?

[ancient crystal]

one person cant make a difference at all so they invested into it for their own purpose

it wont make them win the event this game is a game of pure numbers a huge swarm of t5 can bring down a whale

[plush sluice]

Good on him 👌

[south ember]

But I've been playing longer than that

[wind yew]

huh? what're you smoking?

I wish slim was right 🤣

[ancient crystal]

YouTube stats show

Its about 100$ to $150 per 1k sub

[wind yew]

yeah thats just not true

[ancient crystal]

In ad rev

[magic silo]

Fml, sky and slim arguing always gives me aneurysm

Like who am I supposed to side with😔

[ancient crystal]

I have a friend who just hit 1k in doomsday as a YT and he is making 100 per month

[wind yew]

it dosnt work like that

its view based not sub based

[ancient crystal]

He said at 8k it be over 1k

[wind yew]

what're you on about

[wind yew]

bruh

https://tenor.com/view/russell-westbrook-nba-okc-thunder-what-huh-gif-5070054

[ancient crystal]

Panda can you post your YT earnings page

[wind yew]

No

[ancient crystal]

In the off topic so we can see

[wind yew]

I can tell you that you're far off though

idk what you're yapping about

[ancient crystal]

Its common for YT to post their earnings

[cedar umbra]

No it’s not?

[wind yew]

youtube dosnt post your earnings

[slim bluff]

when did we aruge?

[wind yew]

what?

[south ember]

What? No they don't

[wind yew]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-is-this-guy-like-slow-saturday-night-live-doesnt-he-get-it-is-he-alright-he-aint-right-in-the-head-gif-21567740

[ancient crystal]

Yes they do they say look how much I made this month and you can too if you follow my course etc

[cedar umbra]

Can you give me some names

[wind yew]

youtubers? and those are gurus

not youtubers

[south ember]

Those are fake, they make money of selling the course

[wind yew]

those are just gurus who make money of courses

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-trying-blocks-block-head-tryan-blocks-gif-13157134546106029566

[ancient crystal]

If they were fake how come they have endless pll buying their courses

[wind yew]

you cant make this stuff up

[south ember]

I'd estimate under $50 a month for panda

[wind yew]

because people are stupid

[ancient crystal]

And making them money every month

[wind yew]

chasing a way to get rich quick

[cedar umbra]

Like who

[ancient crystal]

Under 50$ ouch no way we went from 1500 to 50

[magic silo]

This one broke me i can't

[wind yew]

and the people selling the courses arent rich off a buisness they're rich off the backs of people buying their course

[south ember]

It's a con, they rent mansions and models and sell you on getting what they have

[wind yew]

hes gotta be trolling

[magic silo]

Or 12
I still don't know

[wind yew]

alright thats a bit low too, but you're far more accurate that slim

[south ember]

Buy my $1000 course and I'll teach you how to grift make $1000 a month of youtube

[cedar umbra]

Plenty of YouTubers have exposed these types of scams courses especially very controversial only reason people buy the courses is the same reason someone struggling would to make money bruder

[south ember]

$100-200?

[wind yew]

ball park

I didnt expect to wake up to slim telling me my little channel makes me over a grand monthly

but we always are in for a suprise with him

I dont even post all that much anymore to make that lmao

[south ember]

you wake up after sunset?

[wind yew]

I just meant in general 💀

[south ember]

Pandas a vampire confirmed

[wind yew]

its a bit sad im not even suprised anymore

[south ember]

Should've told him you actually make $10k a month from YouTube and igg kickbacks

[wind yew]

fck

missed the chance

https://tenor.com/view/roman-roy-jealous-angry-angry-look-succession-gif-1317768538820840230

[ancient crystal]

damn it would have been nice to hit that 1k tho

1k from ad + paid subs from users + gem from mod + user created igg events wins = all adds up to a very nice competitive edge tho to fight whales

[wind yew]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-unhappy-stoneface-gif-12463115

even if I made 1k I wouldnt spend it on doomsday atleast very little of it

I like the game but im not stupid with my money because I play it lmao

[ancient crystal]

i mean you made the 1k off doomsday so it only makes sense to reinvest it into the game that made you rich

[wind yew]

im good off that

[ancient crystal]

not rich financially but rich like morally

and socially and have so much fun talking making friends here soaking in the fame

[wind yew]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-nah-gif-17789673818039441753

[cedar umbra]

Yes I agree panda is rich he makes 6 figures a month

[wind yew]

I need to sell a course

[magic silo]

Are all 6 of them 0s?

[wind yew]

want to get 200m might? buy my 10 thousand dollar course and you can be like me

[sage current]

No it doesn't

[wind yew]

financial responsibility dosnt exist here

[sage current]

Yeah, I guess there is a lot of financial irresponsibility arround here.

[wind yew]

this is a base builder afterall

[magic silo]

Bass builder

[slim bluff]

Sanity drainer

[sage current]

Thanks for reminding me I was going to fix my bass today

[magic silo]

Let's jam

[sage current]

Only if I can get Canadian citizenship

[magic silo]

Hey, there was bands zoom jamming we can too

[sage current]

Really?

I guess internet these days is a lot faster than it used to be

[magic silo]

Yeah, some of them don't even live in same place now

Like they meet, record, online and then maybe tour and that's the first time they see eachother in person

[sage current]

That's wild. Computers. I imagine they've got decent recording setups though, not just built in laptop microphones 😦

[slim bluff]

I like how alliance league doesn't even have matching day

No wonder 6b alliance with 80 players is in the same bracket as 20b alliance with 170 players

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

This game is pure cinema

[sage current]

Matching in general. It doesn't actually take a day to match. That's theater.

oof, I just noticed we got demoted in AL because nobody did anything last time. Guess I'm not doing anything this time because it's not even worth it.

[final gale]

[verbal wave]

hey

[echo atlas]

"Wasteland currency will be removed when the shop closes, so please exchange them in time to avoid any losses."

when in-game, the thing says "your rifle ammo, reviving hammers, and wasteland ammocoins will not be removed after each round of the event"

so what the fk?

[stiff tusk]

How to rank up my wasteland store

[echo atlas]

that's the thing, you need to participate in multiple events, SPEND in it to be high ranking, to rank up your wasteland store

so it literally makes 0 sense for them to wipe your ammocoins after every event

because you need to level up your store to actually buy things that's worth buying

the store in the early ranks is absolute garbage

[strange tiger]

They need to unlock all the tier rewards, otherwise all the coins will get wasted

[grim cairn]

Best hero combo infinity?

[sage current]

removed after the final time it closes.

That's my take from what they said

[echo atlas]

so your take is ammocoins will be gone after 4/6?

that's still garbage

[sage current]

Do you have a zillion where you can't spend them all?

I already used all mine 😦

[echo atlas]

i havent been participating in the event so my store aint leveled

too late to level up the store now

can we get clarification from Cynthia if all our ammocoins goin go poof after 4/6

[stiff tusk]

I was do my bio mission but rank not increasing

[full dock]

I am Brower

[queen light]

AL is a joke anyways, 3/4s of the missions you can't even complete and even when you do the event is so long you spend more time refreshing the mission than you do actually playing them... Alliance league is a joke.

[graceful wigeon]

anyone know what bio stabilizers do?

also what skill should i lvl up for shopie after her main one

[echo atlas]

at first they're used to open the AFK spots

[graceful wigeon]

where do you see that

[graceful wigeon]

ohhh where is that

[echo atlas]

under biohazard frenzy

[graceful wigeon]

i dont have that yet

[graceful wigeon]

do you need a shelter req

[echo atlas]

probably

[graceful wigeon]

yea im 21

also do you know what sophie skill i should prio after her main skill

[echo atlas]

but ya, that's what bio stabilizers do, although you probably dont have it unlocked

[crude dust]

IGGID1543907456

[graceful wigeon]

yea i dont have it yet

[echo atlas]

you got beasts?

maybe HQ24

[south ember]

its not hq24, you get beasts before armanents

[echo atlas]

oh, well we narrowing it down bunny is 21, it's not 24

[south ember]

my hq21 and hq23 farms both have it

[echo atlas]

oh

[south ember]

so I assume its hq12 with beasts

[echo atlas]

wut, so idk how bunny dun have then

[graceful wigeon]

im so lost

and its so hard to look up any information online

maybe i can message a dev in the chat system

[echo atlas]

screenshot your main screen

it's supposed to be there according to Death

[graceful wigeon]

yea one sec im talking to a person

well i didnt even see it in my items either the bio stable

[echo atlas]

screenshot yo main screen foo

[stiff tusk]

It's too late to rank up wasteland store?

[echo atlas]

apparently you have until 4/6

[south ember]

do you have beast search?

no more ranking up, just the store

[stiff tusk]

I need to do ranking up in any other events to rank up wasteland store rank right?

[slim bluff]

3rd obviously

[stiff tusk]

Or if I buy something it will rank up?

[south ember]

nope, 2 weeks ago was the last chance

[stiff tusk]

Have a alliance league?

[magic silo]

Or 4th

[magic silo]

It only ranked up when you used the items during those events, the items they took and made into coins

[graceful wigeon]

sorry still chat with dev in game

so 3rd or 4th

[slim bluff]

Wait

This game has devs?

[south ember]

3rd is very powerful so you should do that first, 4th is good so you should do that after

[magic silo]

No he means those CS people 🫣

[graceful wigeon]

where do you find the off limit

she said i have it but ican find it anywhere

[magic silo]

We've been arguing about it in here before haha
3rd skill keep in mind does nothing until the 2nd rage skill in a fight, so in aod or antipede, or rally etc, is guaranteed crazy damage.
Most of my fights I care about are very short skirmishes I rarely get 2 consecutive skills off before resetting that fight.
So I opt for skill 4 and 2 before 3 for my playstyle

[magic silo]

Is a little red vial symbol next to the beast search thing

[south ember]

can you screenshot your main screen

[south ember]

biohazard? its blue vial with red virus things

[graceful wigeon]

yea on sec still talking to this dip head i play on pc if i back out it closes the chat

[magic silo]

Oh i dunno man there's red and blue stuff on it I don't actually look i just click my guy

[south ember]

I've decided to just assume you're colorblind

[graceful wigeon]

or you talking about the beast main screen

[magic silo]

It should be to the left of beast search

[south ember]

ah you don't have it. its between pacific rim and beast search

[magic silo]

Dyslexic too, what's it TO YOU

🤣🥲

[graceful wigeon]

yea im so lost

[magic silo]

I literally just know there's red stuff you're collecting, and there's red on the symbol ok, which is true
Even if the vial is blue 😤

[graceful wigeon]

thats not fair 😦

[magic silo]

Can you send that photo to support?

May need to do the whole ticket thing, live chat kinda dumb on this stuff tbh

[graceful wigeon]

thats what they are doing

[echo atlas]

looking at bunny's main screen, homie does not have it

[south ember]

but the blue ones more prominent in the icon

[south ember]

probably just need to wait for next one. it doesn't say what the prerequisites are though so no idea.
I assumed it would be tied with beast search

[graceful wigeon]

well ive only been playing for 19 days

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-smolder-bravestone-jumanji-jumanji-the-next-level-the-rock-i-dont-wanna-hear-it-gif-17304727

[south ember]

my 32d old farm has it so it should be available next time.
I assume its every 2 weeks

[graceful wigeon]

back to the topic of sophie though

3?

[south ember]

3 for dmg and 4 for survivability

she's very strong so she gets focused a lot. up to you what you want to prioritize

[graceful wigeon]

whats more important

GLASS TANKS

[magic silo]

@graceful wigeon here is my case for doing 3rd later.
It's not completely 1 size fits all

[ocean lagoon]

Glass tanks

[graceful wigeon]

youy like that lol

see looks like a tank so you think she would be one

but i really should say glass cannon

but thats messed up i buy a small pack for the beast search and cant even use the stuff i buy

[magic silo]

You keep it don't you?

Don't just buy packs without knowing what they're for 🥹🥹🥹
Beasts are worst possible thing to spend money on rn

[graceful wigeon]

well i need to buy something small for anniversary

[south ember]

I think the currency for opening afk slots is removed at end of event

[graceful wigeon]

to get 10 shards only thing really that was 99 and plus i wanted to know what those things were

[magic silo]

Oh those tags, I thought for beast search
But then he'd be able to use them 😆

[graceful wigeon]

yea the stablelizers came with it

[magic silo]

Crazy you can buy them though and event isn't even there

[graceful wigeon]

right kinda messed up

[magic silo]

Definitely submit a ticket, they may reimburse you

[graceful wigeon]

i jsut message them again cause i thought about that as soon as i said it was messed up

im talking to someone now

yea they have no clue. they "have to look into it further"

[peak swift]

what's the difference between Squad block and Squad def

[summer fiber]

Join my Anniversary Gathering team to get prizes and you may win a free iPhone 16 Pro Max! [My invitation code] 6B2CAB [Event link] https://dls.igg.com/2ndanniversary/?tab=team_koi&code=6B2CAB

[graceful wigeon]

is jaden a good leader hero

[magic silo]

Block is more powerful for a factor that reduces the effect of enemy lethality.
Check the armament info page in game for an explanation of Block and lethality. Basically it reduces dmg taken if you have more block than enemy lethality.
Defense is a much more common stat so less valuable

[magic silo]

Zombies only

[graceful wigeon]

or bettter as a zombie hunt

figured as much

[peak swift]

thank you

[ancient crystal]

for the anniversary draw team, where numbers end in 0 or 2 etc how do you leave a team and start a new one

cause some teams didnt get all tickets some only got 2/5 for example how do u get all 5/5 tickets its not letting the team be disbanded it says TEAM LOCKED

[visual falcon]

We need store exchange object not us an bag and finished using it plz Look at this topic

[sharp aurora]

That's why I used Chatgpt
I provided all IGG IDs of all different accounts and asked it to make a team while keeping my account.
All five tasks were done in 5 minutes of process.

[ancient crystal]

not sure what u mean

we should be able to move and out of teams

[thick plume]

can't disband once you lock in

[ancient crystal]

but the moment you get into a team it LOCKS you so its impossible to get 5/5

[sharp aurora]

Yes it's impossible now

[thick plume]

there's a confirmation if you want to lock or not, no?

[south ember]

It's manually locked by team leader

I made sure to only accept 2 that give me full rewards

[desert sluice]

https://dls.igg.com/2ndanniversary/?tab=team_koi&code=43A074
need someone with igg id last digit 2.

[grand thistle]

Hey does anyone know how many biochemical drawings it takes to research Combat Support 3?

[thick plume]

[junior quarry]

if I leave my alliance and then rejoin, will I lose all my AL points?

[thick plume]

no, but the current mission progress will reset I think

[storm quiver]

Join my Anniversary Gathering team to get prizes
code : 8D88D1

[magic silo]

Pringuel is correct, only current progress, not any accumulated points

[thick plume]

I did that on a healing mission :<

[magic silo]

Big rips

[thick plume]

yeah, my poor rss

[magic silo]

At least once per AL i refresh my gathering mission right before the last batch is coming in to complete it

I HATE the refresh mechanic in that more than anything in this game
And it's an extensive list of hate tbh

[thick plume]

so hard to find personal missions that isn't packs or gem usage :v

[echo atlas]

it's in the design

they want u to spend money

i just refresh until I get a stamina, radar, rss node clearing

[thick plume]

me signal device

[tired rose]

The refresh wouldn’t be so bad if it arent just full of mission i wont do

[summer fiber]

Join my Anniversary Gathering team to get prizes and you may win a free iPhone 16 Pro Max! [My invitation code] 6B2CAB [Event link] https://dls.igg.com/2ndanniversary/?tab=team_koi&code=6B2CAB

[versed jewel]

Any small alliance with a metro looking for active members message me. thanks

[tired rose]

Any small alliance with a metro will be invade by now

[neon timber]

is 280 covids max?

[thick plume]

that with kirin?

[neon timber]

No

[solemn grove]

Wth why I got Kirin, and two legenary Physicals

[spice rock]

🙏🙏🙏

[echo bridge]

You can choose 2 of same type, and they will give you 2x.

If you have like 2 tigers, or 2 bulls.

[neon timber]

^
I also had Kirin and legs physicals

[echo bridge]

We all have same i think.

[solemn grove]

ohh I merger any way that we can reset the beasts?

reset them to level 1

[neon timber]

No, but check your inventory, maybe you can craft new one

[slim bluff]

Block reduced the damage you take by a % depending how high it is compared to targets Lethality, the only way to get Block is from armaments and bcs of this it has better value

Meanwhile Def just increases the Def base number that the troop has, the number varies depending on troop type, there are many ways to get it

[slim bluff]

yes for now, they will add something new in upcoming days

[thick plume]

fk I didn't think of that

how do I split them :DDD

[slim bluff]

Cant, only can get new ones

[thick plume]

okay I fked up again lmao

I trashed my dogs with x2

also, if you don't have spares just put the x2 on 2nd and 3rd slot hehe

[smoky kelp]

Is there a trick to get anniversary coins it seems impossible to get enough to buy 60 legendary beast fragments i have killed over 600 zombies and i only got 50 coins

[solemn grove]

USe 7000 gems and if you have 999 gold you can also get that Capaybara skin thats is one easy way to get few coins

[smoky kelp]

Still doesnt seem enough to get enough coins to buy in the shop was hoping for 60 beast legendary fragments

[echo atlas]

how you get more? just like how this game always is, just bring out the swipey swipe

[smoky kelp]

Yea that sucks if thats the case

I need like 2400 for 60 beast legendary fragments

[echo atlas]

these type of events always has the "defeat zombies" thing

so there's that

but you'd need stamina refills/those zombie 5x 10x papers

[sage current]

Doesn't get you coins though after you get what's in the "party" section. You have to buy any more.

I actually don't see where you could buy more now that I look

[echo atlas]

after the 1000, you dun get no more ya

[sage current]

Yeah, those 1000 don't give you any of the shop coins though, which I think is the question.

[echo atlas]

oh, shop coins is the Merry Gift button top right

[sage current]

Which gives 20 coins and a purchase limit of 1.

[echo atlas]

normally it goes beyond that tho

that's just level 1

each time you buy a pack, it goes up in price

[sage current]

Ah. Either way, 5 dollars for 20 coins is definitely in the top 10 worst deals ever.

[echo atlas]

til you get the 100 dollar packs

i mean, i didnt buy it, but that's how it works in the past always

after the initial couple 100 dollar "value" packs, they have the "not so good" 100 dollar packs

[subtle rune]

You are gonna have to drop at least a 100 to get all them beast pods

[smoky kelp]

Yea thats bull there should be a option to kill zombies or do missions to get the coins even if its a little

No thanks I dont want the beast that bad

[sage current]

Not when you consider every free aspect of this game exists only to encourage people to spend money.

[subtle rune]

If they just let everyone kill zombies for it wouldn’t be no point for spenders

Sadly without spenders this game dies

[smoky kelp]

Yea I understand

[echo atlas]

the "sadly without spenders this game dies" is such a dystopian take. they have earned more than enough over the past 3+ years

[sage current]

Sadly, capitalism is still the predominant thing in the world.

[echo atlas]

it's been out for like 3 and a half years, and yes, in the beginning, probably not a whole lotta spenders, but with how many 300m players are in this game, IGG rollin in cash. they don't deserve your sympathy

but yes, money makes the world go round, I just wish they did more "bang for your buck" things

i aint even asking them to cater to free2play, because we all know they dont give a damn bout them. but all IGG does is give out Gold Vouchers (which is still nice, but Gold is literally how IGG gets around the Apple store/Google store tax)

[sage current]

I'd like to see how a game like this would work out with normal human prices.

Not like, 500+ dollars for a skin prices.

[echo atlas]

if you didnt know, apps on the platform (apple) or (google) have to pay a "service fee/commission fee" whenever revenue is generated from paid apps/in-app purchases

and apple is notorious for having stupid high commission fees

i think it was like 30% at some point

gold is just how IGG gets around that

[south ember]

Google and apple take 30% and igg usually has 20% vouchers

So they're making more money when you buy gold.

[subtle rune]

Crazy to us but normal in Asia.. The gaming business there is serious business

[neon timber]

Does dismantling or taking off armament affect matchmaking? Support bot said that doesn't affect , but some players said that affect. What is true?

[royal topaz]

Wasteland currency will be removed when the shop closes?

[magic silo]

Well truthfully nobody 100% knows because igg refuses to just be up front about it.
What we can gather from how they explicitly count vehicle workshop, is that likely your highest historical might for arms is used for matching. When you take arms off your pompeii rating doesn't change for example.
The only thing it does affect is your warzone- if you can drop enough armaments as a group, you can drop from apex to elite for example because it drops your total might real time.
When you do matchmaking the next day though it won't likely affect your actual individual matches at all

[magic silo]

Seems after the very end yes, not after each shop refresh

[echo bridge]

Number of troops and their tier is big factor. That one we tested few times. When we drop few guys with big troop count, always get lower G's then usually.

[magic silo]

Troops is 100% the biggest factor on rating yeah

[verbal wave]

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[kind coyote]

why is liam looking younger than his actual self

I have a complaint, how can I get it across to the support team
any help?

[dusk kraken]

Bugs, complete stupid Matches, whats wrong with IGG???

[dry gyro]

I read about a wasteland shop, but I can't see one. I had the old shop that disappeared. Is it supposed to be a shop in the waste event?

[echo crater]

How do these guys score so highly in this event? is there a specific tactic or pack they purchase that I'm missing ?

[south ember]

They buy the packs

[echo crater]

Which? I can only see the $5 for 30 cartirdges ?

[magic silo]

If it's a suggestion type of complaint #📥┊submit-suggestions-no-chat
If it's feedback on current patch stuff #📑┊v1-56-0-feedback
You can also try in game ticket

[final gale]

It's the usual stairs model pack, 5$ then you see 10$ then you see 20$ then you see 50 and final 100$ repeat

[echo crater]

Ah, makes sense.

[final gale]

It'll cost few hundred to thousand $ to rank that probably

[south ember]

Yea don't bother trying to get top 10

[neon timber]

Du7chmen donated at least 160k gold, so even don't try, it's for whales🐳

[sage current]

That's not that expensive. Just a used car or a down payment on a house.

Oh wait no, decimal place wrong. That would be 1.6m

[south ember]

It's about $1.6k

[sage current]

Yeah, I got my decimal place moved over and thought 16k for a second

[south ember]

You said 1.6m though

[sage current]

Yeah, 1.6m points gold would be 16k

[edgy marten]

Could someone clarify whether the alliance bonuses, such as the 15% defense increase or the accelerated attack speed, are also functional in Pompeii?

[light edge]

NoNo nothing work in Pompeii no federation titles and I'm not even sure for the r4 titles.. it's about personal buff

[thorny sandal]

r4 works, alliance tech skill works

go to pompeii event -> click '!' -> other rules -> Attributes & buffs section

[magic silo]

In the rules it tells you but it's hard to find- alliance skills are supposed to work, but federation buffs don't

[magic silo]

Oh, yes here haha

[sage current]

What?! We could have had a 15% defense buff every week this whole time?

[magic silo]

Yep 😅

Given how matching works we usually don't even bother anymore tho, its decided on paper 99% of the time for one team or the other VERY handily

So it's usually a take the free win, or just be fodder until you have max points and move on situation

[sage current]

I'll have to try next week. Our defense tech is still on cooldown from GW.

[south ember]

Mine was against a bunch of young whales.
They outnumbered us in t6 and they all have al 6 t3 kits already.
And they're 18 and 19 ids

[magic silo]

Hope you used your 15% defense

[south ember]

No, we did fine in first half but the rest of teams low spender or f2p so they started running out of troops

[thorny sandal]

Yes I use it every week

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[sage current]

Welll darn, I can think of two situations where 15% defense might have won us Pompeii.

[magic silo]

Nice

[echo crater]

Where can you see this statistic ?

[neon timber]

New event
https://dls.igg.com/event/forbes/

[echo crater]

Thank you

[sage current]

Oh man, I would not want my name on public display for spending 10,000 dollars on game in less than 2 days

[south ember]

No ones topped what blackdemons spent last time they ran this

[subtle rune]

Still blow my mind how much people spend in 1 day on this game

[hollow cloud]

will this beast things expire after event ends?

[south ember]

No

[gleaming gale]

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[junior quarry]

Im looking for a fighting alliance, maybe in elite wz. Me: id1826310427

[tepid oxide]

[ocean shoal]

Hey guys my troops are dying, the hospital is not reaching 100% and still the troops die

[sage current]

Does it happen when attacking a shelter?

[ocean shoal]

não

[ocean shoal]

in events with island and genesis

[sage current]

Towers, checkpoints, and buildings?

[south ember]

What did you hit

[ocean shoal]

no

[south ember]

Only in field do you not have deaths

[ocean shoal]

troops

can they die in towers?

[sage current]

Yes

[south ember]

Field fight with space in hospital?
You won't have death like that

[ocean shoal]

I didn't know

[sage current]

A percentage will die defending or attacking towers

[ocean shoal]

ooo thanks

[slim bluff]

Playing this game in this state:
30% of you sanity will die, 70% will be sent to the Hospital.

[graceful wigeon]

Here the real question. who like the band called crown the empire

or we cant be friends

and that makes me sad if so cuz i want to be friends

[slim bluff]

Crown the wh😂 ?

[graceful wigeon]

cronw the empire. Check them out. I would suggest the song hologram

crown*

[slim bluff]

What genre are their songs?

kpop?

[graceful wigeon]

thats the fun in it. no its not k pop

im not some soy boy beta carrot

you never know it could be your new favorite band. Ill wait for you to listen and respond

[sage current]

These guys in pompeii we're fighting now... I think they're just healing troops endlessly, lol

[graceful wigeon]

bro i did the event. we were worried cuz we only had 12 people. the other team had 2

needless to say it was a long 45 mins

[graceful wigeon]

Ill be here waiting.

[slim bluff]

To bad, i only listen to kpop

[graceful wigeon]

😦 you didnt like it

heres some k pop for you

im out of here but heres some soul for your self ❤️ take care everyone

[sage current]

#🍬┊off-topic for that

[graceful wigeon]

you bummer

its a general question on music tase while gaming

[torpid spruce]

Hello everyone

I need help if anyone can help me

Does anyone know @fair bane ?

[sage current]

That person has never posted here.

[torpid spruce]

Thank you for the answear

[magic valve]

Guys….. is anyone able to tell me how is the Pompeii match criteria? Thank you in advance

[slim bluff]

Million dollar question

[thorny sandal]

pompeii rating

[solid halo]

Any new alliance for a 30 M - Hq24 -T4 player? My friend is looking for Antpede and pompeii at 17 utc or later as a time preference

[magic valve]

We play it always at 19:00 utc

[magic valve]

🤣🤣🤣

[magic valve]

Are you sure? Because I have the same rate on my farm with the main account and I never played with the farm

[thorny sandal]

At low ratings there's a lot of alliances, less likely to meet

[magic silo]

Your rating is a value you get based on the power of your account with some modifiers for different aspects.
It's inherent and doesn't change on performance

[magic silo]

Turbofolk

[magic valve]

Thank you

[scarlet pewter]

Why deatha are diff for me and people seeing my id

[solid halo]

Nice to see that can you ping me your region and I'd?

[thick plume]

the deaths from getting burned not shown

[thorny sandal]

wondering too, had a theory that troop returns with aid station didn't count but the difference between what you see and others see isn't growing fast enough

[south ember]

Only you see shelter deaths

[south ember]

If it grows fast you need to learn to shield

[thorny sandal]

as in hitting others' shelters?

[south ember]

As in when your own shelter gets burnt

[thorny sandal]

I don't get deaths in my shelter and number still increases

[south ember]

The difference you mean?

[thorny sandal]

unless it's counting the "troops" from barricade

[thorny sandal]

yes

[south ember]

The visible troop death should be all deaths other than when your shelters hit

[south ember]

I have no idea if those are counted.
Maybe?

[thorny sandal]

you got a source for that? cuz it doesn't match my experience at all

[south ember]

#☕┊en-general-chat message
Panda mentioned it once.
I don't think there's any official thing on it

[thorny sandal]

well could just be wrong 😂

[south ember]

Idk, I've never tested it.

[south ember]

I could zero you if you want to check

[thorny sandal]

try if you want I get my shelter hit nearly every event lately, not many leave happy with it

[thick plume]

I think it's true since I get my farm zeroed multiple times before

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[south ember]

ok, lemme zero you if we meet

[thick plume]

while my main

neva been 0d

[south ember]

You played dark seal?

[thick plume]

yup but I usually just move troops in towers

[south ember]

Why?

[thick plume]

or just til hospital fills

[south ember]

Getting swarmed was great for points though

And I think it was 90% death return

[thick plume]

yeah but after a couple dark seals I never got swarmed again :((

[south ember]

Early dark seal had a lot of swarming.
Then later dark seal was mostly just the big whales swarming everyone

[thick plume]

yep and zone 2 bases

[sage current]

80

[ancient crystal]

how can you catch up to someone in OFFLIMITS explaration?

if everyone has maxed 2x animals on all 4 areas the points accumulate at the same rate

how is that a race when everyone get the same points how do people change positions

[sage current]

spend money

[ancient crystal]

that doesnt help

the points are the same, everyone has equal points how do people get ahead

[sage current]

That's how you get ahead of people making the same per 5 minutes as you.

[ancient crystal]

the ONLY thing you can do is buy the blue needle packs and inject them for FAST ACCELERATION

but no one is going to do that

[sage current]

Except for those people who did

[ancient crystal]

because you get needles free from the missions no one cares enough about the race man to spend money

once the free missions are done the race is pretty much over

[sage current]

Sometimes I don't know if it's just the way you speak, or if you really believe people aren't spending money.

[ancient crystal]

my theory is the people who are ahead had all 2x aninals and 4 places done first

so its just a matter of who can click the fastest to populate the animals in the right slots that is what that comes down to

[sage current]

And the people who had 200k points in the first 30 minutes?

[subtle rune]

You have to buy beast search tags to get more points

The more tags you buy the higher your points go

[ancient crystal]

thats true, BUT if you arent maxed on 2x across all 4 areas

someone getting QUICK ACCELERATION wont be getting the max points if you arent maxed spread

so its a waste to use max acceleration unless you have everything already set up

[south ember]

the ones at top bought beast search for upgrading their beasts which gave them the quick acceleration stuff

[ancient crystal]

Quick Accumulation just gives you the max points per 60 mins of what it would take for you to do i t manually based on the animals you have in the slots

if you dont have max animals in all slots your QUCK ACCUMLATION wont be high at all its a waste so anyone who used it in 30 mins first 30mins without all the animal unlocks in the right slots wasted points

[magic silo]

the admins did mention to us a looong time ago it's a visual bug, the higher one is correct

[south ember]

is it a bug? I assumed it was intentional

[south ember]

so? the top ranks all have slots maxed

[magic silo]

there was a guy with over 1M within hours of the thing opening in my bracket

he must have been REEEEALLY fast

[random garden]

😭 🙏

[magic silo]

this is against the server rules #📜┊server-rules

[magic silo]

I believe the words chosen were bug yes

I can't imagine any benefit to it being different between you and what others see

[random garden]

Sorry! :v

[south ember]

well deaths do show activity on rally and garrison, so you could inflate it to seem more active?

Most just look at kills though

[magic silo]

Yeah this was what panda and i were saying to them on the importance of it being accurate, because it does seem inconsistent on which deaths show there and which don't

it's an important metric i use too. If someone has 500M kills and 0 deaths im less stoked to have them on my team lol

[magic silo]

it's ok, i understand the struggle friend

[random garden]

I love you friend, thank you for not banning me.

[ancient crystal]

some people are smart though and dont want to kill units off in rallies or garrsison

[magic silo]

"some people are too afraid their lil pixel guys will die and their epeepee might number will shrink, so they sit and let their team do all the fighting and dying for actual objectives in actual events"

[ancient crystal]

if you waste units on rally or garrison you lose 25-15% of your units perma.. for example if you had a huge event and had 500k in your aid station then you would have lost around 75-100K of those perma.. now do the math.. it takes 1.1 day to train 2k of each type, so say you are training 6k a day across 3 ttypes.. it take you 14-18 days to retrain those units

so while you are yo-yoing retraining units losing might someone else who ISNT dying is growing faster than you

accumulating might, accumulating men and laughing because they will always be picked over you

NO ONE looks at deaths NO ONE its a bad thing to have not a good thing

i just explained my logic flawlessly

[magic silo]

i am intimately familiar with perma death mechanics, and i can promise you all the good leaders can spot bloated farmers a mile away and will choose smaller fighters over them

[magic silo]

i guess this maybe works in the bowels of fearless tho against all the new teams

[ancient crystal]

i think you give these leaders too much credit.. they look at your might at your kills and then ask your arms

[thorny sandal]

I do look at deaths

[ancient crystal]

leaders arent leaders causae they are smart they are leaders cause they are either the richest or the most charismatic

its crazy to assume a leader is analyzing your account to that detail

[south ember]

bloated accounts that don't contribute just ruin your matching

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/get-your-boy-aleesha-upload-get-your-man-come-get-your-man-gif-25098234

@wind yew

[ancient crystal]

its a mistake to assume an account is "bloated" what you mean bloated look at the kills if someone has 500M kills as ARI said everyone would want them

[thorny sandal]

yep they get kicked every event in my alliance 😂 and deaths are a major part of it

[south ember]

not many look in detail, but some of them do

[south ember]

500M isn't that much for elite

[ancient crystal]

Sure those who do look can easily be tricked or mislead by words, a ton of people tried to question me on things and i just talked my way out of it

[thorny sandal]

got plenty of people with 200-500m kills that haven't fought more than 30 minutes per event since DS stopped existing for free kill farming

[magic silo]

i've played with so many more than i can count now, and 98% of teams have leadership crew that know bloat and cvhoose against it

[random garden]

I'm new, can someone adopt me into their clan?

[ancient crystal]

also you need a certain might to scare people

[random garden]

I am constant

[south ember]

the well managed alliances won't let you in

[ancient crystal]

a lot of times during events people look at the top players in each team to determine allies

[thorny sandal]

I don't even have t6 cars to lower my might

[ancient crystal]

and the bigger might you got on your team the more likely you will gain favor from the strongest ally

[magic silo]

hey check in #1106157611595870289 friend, lots of teams looking there

People tend to skim might and parts, as well as account age as a QUICK indicator on actual strength. If they're newer account with high parts, you can infer they probably have decent workshop too for example.
Most people look at kills then, and low kills are ALWAYS a bad sign, always.
A LOT of people will then look at deaths, ESPECIALLY if someone has a seemingly high number of kills

[thorny sandal]

then you get a bad surprise when the high might doesn't leave the safezone and you get run over 2v1

[magic silo]

slim is that general in the armchair/safezone so i dont think he's worried

[south ember]

no one looks at just might.
everyone at minimum looks at the kills of top might players

[south ember]

that's why everyone ignores the existence of low kill players when deciding allies

[magic silo]

dangit slim be slimmin again and i missed reset, ripsies

[thorny sandal]

Look at deaths, T6 kills + account age, T6 kill ratio to see if they boosted kills in lower matches, total kills

and above all, if you've been playing long enough you know most of the farmer whales that will come out for 1-2h tops

[magic silo]

yessss, i always subconsciously look at the t6 kills too
When someone has 5x my total kills and less t6 kills than me, i don't get good feelings haha

[south ember]

those 18 and 19 ids with white parts and a bunch of kills are the scariest, you know they will have high vehicles

[thorny sandal]

yep, and know they're active af too

[magic silo]

those crazies buying everything there is to buy

[thorny sandal]

easy to boost those in fearless just by having okay strength

[south ember]

I saw a 18 id in BRO with a level 25 vehicle

[ancient crystal]

T6 kills is just shows how reckless someone is

t6 melt your units why are you actively engaging with t6? what if you are in a lesser zone like fearless and you dont fight a lot of t6 but you have a high might and kills? You shouldnt be punished for your fearless zone time

[south ember]

total kills and t6 kill ratio are the main criteria used

[thorny sandal]

we just beat them in genesis couple days ago but yea BRO has that one and his vehicles are insane

[ancient crystal]

T6 dont tell a story because you can avoid t6 in the field and in rally as most people do we run away from t hem

engaging t6 will get you killed and get your wasting your RSS and fill your hospital

just because some ppl are suiciding their units on t6 thats their fault that shouldnt be celebrated at all

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/super-chicken-you-knew-the-job-was-dangerous-when-you-took-it-fred-dirty-jobs-gif-16206160

[ancient crystal]

that is not a metric at all to base anything off, t6 kills kidding me again i just disputed that with l ogic

[south ember]

most of the fighting in elite is against t6

[magic silo]

dude it's not logic, it's broken. you're missing the entire point of the game for 1

[thorny sandal]

go ally the 300m full white parts 133 id with 2m T6 kills then 🫡

[sage current]

What's slim talking about now? I seem incapable of scrolling up to read it all.

[south ember]

does anyone let you negotiate allies?
I can't imagine you winning if you choose farmers over active fighters

[thorny sandal]

only might matters, no kills/deaths/t6 kills/etc

[magic silo]

NOBODY looks at deaths or t6 kills when deciding an ally

ONLY MIGHT

[south ember]

he looks only at might and ignores kills

[sage current]

Oh, yeah. He's totally right about that. I only consider might. Low kills and low deaths means they're good at the game because they don't waste troops fighting.

[magic silo]

@sage current

[magic silo]

YOU CANT JUST SAY THAT HE WILL TAKE YOU LITERALLY

[sage current]

That summarizes it, I see.

[sage current]

That's okay

[ancient crystal]

haha yup haha

[south ember]

slims gonna think you agree with him

[sage current]

Thinking he's messing around. Slim actually has a few kills now.

[south ember]

how many

[sage current]

126m, 10 are t6

[magic silo]

i do think he's a really sophisticated troll rather than serious

[south ember]

thats still low though

[sage current]

for a t6 player

[sage current]

I think he exists in both a state of complete seriousness and absolute trolling simultaneously.

[south ember]

hasn't he been t6 for a while?

[sage current]

A few months at least

[south ember]

if he actively joins rallies and garrisons he should be over 10m though

[sage current]

4m deaths, so no joining rallies and garrisons in that

[magic silo]

schrodingers slim. interesting

[sage current]

I just noticed you can scroll down in the radar station. No real reason to, but you can

[wind yew]

Yeah no if you got a bad kill death ratio we don't want you means you probably don't fight but your flawless logic goes over everyone else's head

If nobody fills towers or anything then your teams sloppy lmao

[magic silo]

Yeah i just cannot understand him not seriously taking his logic to the next level.
I really don't know what's real anymore 🥹

[echo atlas]

competitive edge in Radar

[hexed roost]

B

[ancient crystal]

issue with that statement is you cant replenish troops faster than you can lose them

[wind yew]

I do it all the time

[ancient crystal]

if you are losing 50-100k units per event you wont be able to remake them before the next event

[wind yew]

fy talkin about

[ancient crystal]

it takes 1.1 day to train 2k troop types which is MAX at baracks 25

[wind yew]

I do it just fine on all my accounts filling towers and rallies

speedups exist

[ancient crystal]

so 6k per day retrained it will take you 14 days to train back 100k troops

spepdups who useing spedups outside TC

[wind yew]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-bro-seriously-what-nick-young-gif-14557466

[ancient crystal]

very few people use speedups on their troop training outside TC

[wind yew]

I just spend it on TC recover what I lost previous event(s)

[ancient crystal]

maybe those who finished ALL research sure and have universals left but very few people are all done reesarch

[wind yew]

what're you yapping abt

my players do it just fine

[ancient crystal]

you are talking about people who have universasls and training in abudance

[wind yew]

I got T5 players doing it just fine

[ancient crystal]

i am talking about people who arent t6 yet or who have reesarch still to do