Familiars

[patent aspen]

is this a bug or something?

Specific 5s toys:
Normal: 878
Skill: 6032

Generic 5s toys:
Normal: 894
Skill: 6182

[mellow marsh]

if u want to compare those 2, u need to remove other and equip only 1 at a time.
in my test, avg looks almost the same.
in your test, it proves that equip 2 type of them is better than equip all same type. (this is how every game calculation works. atk + dmg is better than all dmg or all atk)
if anyone has test results, u guys can show us here. we can discuss them together.

[mellow marsh]

This is the first time I saw this highest CP.
1 of those ? must be a10 stag, I saw that from his character's deck.

[glad chasm]

hello everyone I want to ask for advice for my familiar team which one to upgrade I have 300 jelly unused
My line up now
DEF = Boar-Shrimp-Toko-Byrde-Suiryu
ATK : Byrde-Toko-Shrimp-Hippo-Suiryu
is this correct? thankyouu

[glacial oracle]

Wishing upon the star for Toko... or something anti-Toko...

[mellow marsh]

maybe swap your boar and byrde position on def team.
on attack team, did your byrde's skill finish b4 dead? I doubt that cause u had no other melee.
oro/mite/dino are the contenders for those jellies, depend on your surround enemies.

[glad chasm]

yes i put the boar up front with byrde for deff, byrde a4 sometimes dies before casting his skills but its a bit rare

[glad chasm]

is dino good to be with byrde? or something else

[mellow marsh]

most likely to got interrupt if u put him up front.

dino is like hit or miss.

[glad chasm]

so basically I need 1 more melee type for my team, is that right?

I'm f2p in this game 300 jellies it's very long to get it so I'm afraid it's wrong to increase the familiar that helps in the arena

[mellow marsh]

ebon, final answer. never out of meta

[glad chasm]

Ok, thank you, sir for the advice. I hope this season I can be in the top 100

[lapis shore]

help me build my fam, having trouble with shrimpaler + boar + toko enemy build

[mellow marsh]

u shouldn't have a problem with BTS trio.
Suiryu is a must.
try ebon toko suiryu hippo +1 (a.lynx/else)

[rigid eagle]

@dry torrent

[earnest plover]

hi, i see Mite on my first free roll and have 8 more rerolls, should i aim for any other familiar as starter?

[mellow marsh]

Mite/Oro/Suiryu
1 of these that u can get from new player first summon (+ 9x reroll).
any of these 3 is nice, u can choose whatever u want.

[earnest plover]

cheers, i end up picking suiryu , looks cute

[mellow marsh]

FYI
Mite - Fire - Melee
Oroboros - Earth - Melee
Suiryu - Water - Range

[weary dome]

Does bunnybot/staghorn stacks with immortal helm, black knight armor and ignore pain/quick overcome?

[true ingot]

If you're talking about f2p meta, it'll change with sunshine release. Otherwise, that's not even current meta.

[true ingot]

How are you having trouble?

You have so many build options.

Hippo Suiryū
Toko
Cat Bull

Cat Bull
Kona
Mite Toko

[halcyon tusk]

Hi guys, can somebody help me with line up? I always ended up 2200 rank, and its very far from top 10%

I can’t win against toko and soar boar and shrimp

Any way to win against them with my fam?

[mellow marsh]

from what u have, u can't.
and if there is a lot of BTS (Boar Toko Shrimp) around you, try focus on defense.
just attack 3 times a week, then defense it all.

Defense: ebon mite/oro frontline + Boar Toko Shrimp/Suiryu/Hippo at the back
or ebon boar frontline + suiryu/hippo toko shrimp
toys are effective, try to find some.

don't forget to learn from watching your replay.

[mellow marsh]

ah.. my bad day, lose 97 points from 3 attack and 3 def losses. xD
too many new faces and lineups. 😄

[timid coral]

Every season now have many new faces. Many quit and many gets stronger. Whales are getting farther and farther now

[rigid eagle]

Loving it

[lapis shore]

what's the best counter to ebon taurex?

[rigid eagle]

Mite front+Auroralynx back

[hollow fog]

if i have 5s star toy should i give it to toko or to someone else

[rigid eagle]

Id say go toko. i used 6 star toy on him

[lapis shore]

does it cancel ebon charge?

[rigid eagle]

Mite can cancel Ebons charge if ebon is front row. If ebon is back row - it will rush and stun with like 70% chance

[lapis shore]

i see

awesome

[true ingot]

Mite will eat charge and stun afterwards. They are different priority moves. The RG CCers, Mite/Oroboros have lower priority attacks. You can see timing of cast based off of the circle animation on all familiars in the beginning.

A6 bunnybot is higher priority than A10 mite, but lower than A7-10 taurex. However, A7+ bunnybot will cast as bull charges without being interrupted in defense at least.

Here is an example

[mellow marsh]

wow, ursa on FA.
How was he?

[true ingot]

Hippo has higher priority than Mite, and you see it has not even cast yet.

[true ingot]

Useless under A7 (at A7 grants immunity to CC) for top 10. If you have to deal with a lot of Hippo/Stag/Cat comps, then might be worth if you don't have A7 Bunnybot.

Was an easy fight, I have A10 bull, toko, cat, and A7 arachnes+bunnybot

[mellow marsh]

no one use Bunnybot on my server, there are Shrimp and Disbeleaf instead

dif meta

[true ingot]

Tokotoko remains meta in JP/KR, so most useful along with Dururu (カップ)

Shrimp Disbeleaf is if you don't have the resources

One arachnes attack kills a mite or bull

doesn't matter how much healing you have if it dies to burst

[mellow marsh]

Dururu is doing great, huh? noted.

[true ingot]

Yeah, in JP it is カップ

The only stall comps that will work in the near future are the ones that do dmg

so sore boar has never made top 10 in our server

[mellow marsh]

does Arachness mostly got interrupt? by ebon/mite/hippo

[true ingot]

if you do A10 bull bryde with shrimp toko and dmg/cc like A10 cat or A10 kona then that is good too

[true ingot]

not at higher awaken. and it has higher priority than mite and hippo

[mellow marsh]

no boar on mine too. like I said, dif meta

[true ingot]

you can see it has cast before hippo skill is ready

in JP/KR it is even buffed too to cast faster.

Most people run sunshine, taurex, dururu, relix+cat, and the green dragon-dog tunneler in some combination

occasionally you'll see hippo/stag but it gets taken care of easily by tunneler

This is JP/KR only tho

they haven't released in global/AS yet.

[mellow marsh]

relix might be arrive late Feb, I guess

after those 200-days coupons go expired.

[true ingot]

lol

yeah, common team is

Green tunneler, Cat
Toko
Relixx, Bull

[mellow marsh]

I hope to see bunnybot in action on my server too.
Sadly, no one gonna pull from that common gacha.

[true ingot]

but ofc we haven't even gotten Petal, Water Cat or anything else

nobody uses it on my server

because you need it A7+ or it just gets interrupted

and you wasted a familiar slot

#1 has an A9, I have A7

A10 auralynx will always remain good tho

[mellow marsh]

my #1 still use a10 penguin for a huge surprise. (sometime)

[true ingot]

same with bunnybot high awaken

yeah, A10 penguin has priority over most units

but it is not very reliable

so you only use it if the rest of your team is more than sufficient, and people aren't that strong in ranks below you

[mellow marsh]

I plan to raise my stag to a5 from those 2 free eggs.
does it worth?

[true ingot]

not really

it depends on what you have

but it doesn't gain a priority boost until A7.

unless you have other familiars to combo with it, I don't see a point in a lone A5 stag

[mellow marsh]

my top 30 are mostly 360k CP.

[true ingot]

CP doesn't mean much

toy-specific for familiar is lower CP because it gives special attributes but not stats so doesn't increase CP

so if I use generic stuff on my A10 cat, it is 88k, if I use its specific toys, it is 79k

[mellow marsh]

I knew that, I mean they got a lot of high awakened fam.

[true ingot]

you can make a team of the starters all A10, but you will get wrecked by just one arachnes bunnybot

[mellow marsh]

should I save it for later?

[true ingot]

I would, depends on what you have now.

[mellow marsh]

my hippo already a7

[true ingot]

Do you have auralynx A7-A10?

[mellow marsh]

7

no a.lynx from those eggs anyway

[true ingot]

A5 still isn't worth tho, hippo lynx are good cc

just low dmg

ofc not

just like no kona

[mellow marsh]

oh, yeah. I have 0 Kona, a1 bunny, a0 Arach, a0 squibby

but I don't care about them

my choices are Hippo or Stag.

a8 or a5 or save

[true ingot]

yeah, they suck at low awakening

save

A7 or A8 hippo makes no difference other than a few stats

[mellow marsh]

a9 50%

[true ingot]

there is no change in skill priority

25%

[mellow marsh]

yeah, for 2 in a row

[true ingot]

25% stays A7

but yeah, bunnybot requires heavy investment, unless you already have it high awaken, and 5* toys, not worth trying for.

[mellow marsh]

what if I somehow raise my stag to a7?

[true ingot]

It just won't be that great for the coming wave of A10 Dururu

cause Dururu will always take hippo skill

cause of proximity

so stag is pulling units that are free to do what they want aftert

[mellow marsh]

place hippo front

[true ingot]

doesn't matter

it turns around

test with hobgoblin you'll see

[mellow marsh]

some meta might change in next 2 weeks

[true ingot]

a bit

[mellow marsh]

that hurts me
10% success for my useless bunny.

[true ingot]

[mellow marsh]

how about sage reindeer aka Kaitona

[true ingot]

is just another water supp

that works well with other water

It's not going to change the meta

[mellow marsh]

seem like not good in FA

[true ingot]

not really no

[mellow marsh]

a10 dururu incoming

[true ingot]

yup

[mellow marsh]

we should burst him down asap.

[true ingot]

he's def

mostly good to take aggro and tank skills

so Dururu + bunnybot is really annoying too

[mellow marsh]

ebon charge or dururu dig first?

[true ingot]

it is same timing as hobgoblin

so it should go off first as long as it is positioned correctly

unless it is A10 vs like A7 and ebon is on defense

defending team sometimes get slight priority advantage

[mellow marsh]

I try to imagine those scenarios.

hippo is not that good in term of dps

[true ingot]

neither is cat

they're mostly aoe cc

[mellow marsh]

yeah

[true ingot]

with lower priority

so even A10 flutterby can usually deal with hippo dmg as well

[mellow marsh]

do hippo + a.lynx combo can nuke him down? (with other help)

[true ingot]

I think it would take a few hits including their skills

[mellow marsh]

I saw flutterby on other server, not mine. how was it?

[true ingot]

and if anything else dies before then, then no.

it is the budget bunnybot

lol

I mean it is a bit diff it is mostly dmg shield with healing instead of hit shield with cc prot

so it has its places

but again, bull will always be used

high awaken bunnybot and arachnes as well

out of the non-rare, tokotoko, dururu, ebon taurex, sunshine are most useful

[mellow marsh]

don't forget Boar

most ppl still got bullied by BTS trio.

[true ingot]

ugh

not in top 10

so I don't ever worry about that. If someone brings it, they just lose.

[mellow marsh]

that a f2p walls. xD

[true ingot]

well if f2p can get high shrimpaler then good for them.

I have A10 all of the regular RGB EXCEPT the stupid seal splisher

it is A6 LOL

[mellow marsh]

[true ingot]

I have A10 mite with 12 extra copies

disbeleaf and the others

but splisher A6

A10 cow and penguicorn before A7 splisher

with extra copies too

so dumb

[mellow marsh]

try him on defense for a surprise. xD

[true ingot]

nah

my defense is solid

if I put it in def. I will lose

[mellow marsh]

what were those?

🙊

[true ingot]

all their stuff A10 except bunnybot A9

[mellow marsh]

so, u go for an offensive lineup.

[true ingot]

stall will die to that in 3 seconds

[mellow marsh]

good defense = decent attack

[true ingot]

A10 arachnes will one-shot team

[mellow marsh]

u can delete that pic now.

[true ingot]

Thanks

[mellow marsh]

gotta go, c u later.

[true ingot]

cya, gnight/morning

[mellow marsh]

3 AM for me.

[true ingot]

thought so

[wispy torrent]

Is dururu good?

[random oar]

any def teams suggestions?

[true ingot]

Sure

[true ingot]

Good job upgrading Taurex, try to avoid gummy on no awakening units like Kona cause waste of gummies

[true ingot]

What rank are you currently in and is water meta with bear back on your server?

Ebon Taurex, Suiryū
Toko
Mite Shrimp

Would replace Suiryū if you had higher awaken

With oroboros

If you're 30-100, then A3 Alynx is somewhat useable.

Alynx, Taurex
Toko
Mite, Suiryū

[random oar]

kona was a mistake, no one in top 30 use bear rn, the meta in def now is 2 or even 3 healers

im in top 30

[true ingot]

If that's the case, you need a strong sustain interrupt, your ebon taurex, then a healer with a lot of DPS.

This is what I do against those teams, but it's not replicable.

[random oar]

im at point where i cant attack

i only wait for anyone to attack me to get points

[dull meteor]

has anyone tested if ursa shield can also negate cc (ex. Tarakona knockdown)

[eager rampart]

help team comp

[mortal narwhal]

https://i.imgur.com/JNHp7uM.png

hello can anyone help me with my lineups? ive been doing mite oroboros worker ebon and toko but my rank is still the same after the couple of seasons already... thank you

[vapid adder]

U cannot do anything to 200 dayS server if rng not hit u good

Ur boar not a10, your shrimp low awake

Everybody mite oro a8-a10

Goodly enogh your ebon a5

And bryde a7

But u have no stag and hippo

So less usage

[mellow marsh]

I can't suggest attack team.
For defense, try ebon byrde mite toko oro

[agile sail]

Relixx is still far away huh?

[halcyon tusk]

Mite awake 6 or use oroboros awake 7? Both 4s spesific equip

[mellow marsh]

seem like that, maybe after those 200-days ticket gone expire

[mellow marsh]

for FA, it depends on the opponent team

[agile sail]

Well.. that sucks!

[halcyon tusk]

Most of players in my server using boar ebon shrimp toko for defend, my mite can’t do anything, my suiryu only awake 6 and hippo awake 3

[mellow marsh]

join BTS force, with mite on attack and Oro on defense

[halcyon tusk]

My shrimp only awake 1, no luck with that shrimp

Oro for defense? I’ll try that one

Thanks

Our rank 1 only 2700 points though

[mellow marsh]

Oro on defense to counter water only when u use boar on defense too

[lapis shore]

how to beat bunnybot and bryde, both are a6 i think its hidden
can't beat with taurex any suggestion?

[rigid eagle]

U need to try to blob byrde with dynosares

[dire ginkgo]

any good upcoming fam banners?

[random pumice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/980258701006995467/1059739803014410250/image.png

this are my familiars in order of CP, Bougie, Dururu, and disbleaf have 1, 5* toy. rest have all 4 star toys, based on this, which 6* toy should I select? I use arachnes for pvp but idk if that's worth it, or does it not matter because how insignificant it will be because its just 1 6* toy?

[random pumice]

Black cat

Forgot the name, but it's beating the tier 0 one that was previously Meta in the Korean server iirc

[finite stream]

ant news when there will be a new banner and which fam will be there?

[lapis shore]

tried it, didnt work, my dyno is weak af he die too quickly, a8
i beaten him but he moved his piece again, and i didn't save what my team compo that beat him

rank 1-10 is so hard, all of them are KD mate, i got rank 4 yesterday now im top 11

[mellow marsh]

there is a hint on #🙏｜2023-wish

relixx pic

but dont expect too much

[olive drift]

nerf

[true ingot]

Dino is hardly a viable unit, lol let alone vs Byrde. On paper if it lands its attack at the right time yes, it might be fine, but that almost never happens roflmao.

There's a reason why not a single Bryde comp exists in top 30 in our server, it is not viable vs sustain DMG and heals

Actually I take that back, there is literally one.

[lapis shore]

theres a byrde hes top 3-4 i think
but i already found a way to beat him

i'll check later how i beat his bunny + bryde combo

[true ingot]

Yeah, cause it's garbage strat without right comp, and even then it doesn't hold up that well without A10 Squibby.

I have A10 Bunnybot A10 cat and I still wouldn't dare run Byrde comp.

Unless I want to lose my top 3 streak from past few months.

[lapis shore]

top 2-10 is all the same to me

this is how i beat the bunny bryde comb but its not 100% win rate

[light willow]

Doesn't your ebon kick away byrde and stag can't pull any rangeds because it only activates it ability on basic attacks?

[true ingot]

Roflmao, this is not how to run Bryde comp.

This is how to lose.

[lapis shore]

cant beat this guy again 1-3 kd
any thoughts how to beat this guy
will try to put stag at bottom to get puffu