Familiars

[mortal saffron]

Freely discuss about Familiars

[balmy crescent]

wow

[dark crane]

Suiiiiii

[cunning cosmos]

O

[hardy geode]

[chrome linden]

what familiar should i select from 4 star egg

[spark parcel]

Hippo

Or any that you use in familiar arena and already have

[turbid dew]

Please, give me formation for my familiar. Hippo a1 - Mite a9 - toko a10 - boar a8 - molten a0. Ty for your help🙏

[sullen swift]

1. Boar
2. Mite
3. Hippo
4. Toko
5. Molten

[dusty pawn]

for my first ever rare fam, which one should i get from the egg? :v

[mild blade]

minoru god

[carmine ether]

WTF

[sullen swift]

Depends on your preference. For myself, i like the bear so i got that.

[pastel root]

the bear? u mean rimu? 😮

[turbid dew]

thanks bree

[sage condor]

any byrde users here?

[brittle elm]

A3 Ebon 300 jelly or A10 Boar 300 Jelly?

[hidden delta]

One thing to keep in mind when picking Rimu is the difficulty is awaking it, esp. if you don’t spend much on Asterite

[carmine ether]

It depends. Whats the other front line?

[brittle elm]

Can I DM you my current fam?

[carmine ether]

U can send here.. but ok

[agile musk]

should I awaken my hippocampus, get a molten lion or get a staghorn?

[normal copper]

where is the best farm spot (or source) of beans?

[balmy crescent]

just always do the wild familiars in adventure, my bag always full of beans

[pastel root]

is relixx coming next patch??

[sage ice]

Use credit card or your wallet to win the arena easy

[leaden viper]

From what the rummos are saying, he will be released after the next pach on halloween

[pastel root]

aaah thank you i can try to saving my tickets from now on

[rain jewel]

should top 1%-10% familiar arena rewards be outside of top 100?

[mild copper]

Which familiars should I pick for the rare egg? I just got molten from a pull like 2 days ago so I haven't built him yet. Should I go for an awaken and build him? Or is he not worth it?

[quasi oxide]

should I choose molten lion to make my molten awake 1 or choose hippo?

[untold vapor]

ban toko

[abstract yoke]

no. if you had awaken 2, then choosing lion to awaken 3 it would be a good idea. for now, i'd say choose hippo.

[abstract yoke]

same goes for you

[quasi oxide]

current line up is molten(1), sparkee(2), ebon(1), toko(6) and mite(5) should i remove sparkee to replace hippo or who to remove?

btw i heard hippo + suiryu is good

i also have suiryu awake 2

[abstract yoke]

i would take switch sparkee to hippo(if oyu have it) and switch ebon to boar if you have it awakened 5+

[abstract yoke]

thats even better.\

[quasi oxide]

alright then i have boar(9)

[quasi oxide]

so my final would be boar(9), hippo(1), suiryu(2), mite(5) and toko(6)

[abstract yoke]

yeah

[quasi oxide]

aight then thank you

[abstract yoke]

then probably do mite, ebon, lion, toko, boar(in that order) for defense. hide first two

[quasi oxide]

got it

[abstract yoke]

and mite, boar, suiryu, hiipo, toko(in that order) in offense

[tender galleon]

remove shrimp or dino for boar?

[leaden viper]

Np ^^.
I've been saving since Tarakona lol, 120 tickets +12 k Diamonds just waiting for my boy Relixx 🥰

[silver marsh]

i find the En. Absorb function confused. i dont know how it work and why my Mite can absorb my MoltenLion while the ML can't, is there a tutorial somewhere here?

[cunning cosmos]

Its pretty simple

Mite is being used somewhere while molten isn't

[pastel root]

wowww cool, got my tempt to pull puffu so i need to reset all 😭😭

hope we got relixx when they release it

[thin moth]

Caution my friend, if you let familiar A absorb familiar B, you also lose familiar B

I already have a hippo (max lvl). It's my only rare. Is it worth getting another hippo from the event to awaken this one or should i pick something else? I'm f2p and need both pvp and pve support, and both staghorn and bunnybot look enticing as hell.

[sullen swift]

https://tenor.com/view/swing-dance-swing-your-hips-dance-cute-dance-side-to-side-gif-25165719

I realise toko is also a tank in arena. I built toko up to 300 and its very tanky. My current familiar built are

1. Toko
2. Boar
3. Mite
4. Hippo
5. Green lizard

So far I've been winnings

[rigid eagle]

@sullen swift let me tell you something. Your team is not Ideal, because Hippo is not getting extra damage due to the lack of freeze on opponents. You need to pair it with Suriu in order for Hippo to become beast. Uroboros gives 🍃 debuff, but we don't have a rare earth familiar that will benefit from it and deal extra damage after Uroboros' debuff.

[sullen swift]

I should change oroboros to suria?

[carmine ether]

Team no good 'cause there is no one in front line to rush. So 1 hippo skill = everyone will get together and then die

[ashen furnace]

this is my current line up but still loses, needed help btw

[cunning cosmos]

Dont put bunnybot in front

[prisma sage]

Bunny + boar is bad combo you dont have enough damage

[prisma sage]

Shrimp

[eternal gale]

Someone said, attack its a good defense lol

[void swan]

should I change this line up? this is the familiars I currently have

[silver marsh]

is Mite stronger than lion at same condition?

[cunning cosmos]

Two different roles, lion is a stall

[rigid eagle]

@sullen swift yes, change uro to Suriyu

[pastel root]

familiar arena so hard sdadsdhadh

[cunning cosmos]

Its easy I just dont have the stuff to make it easy

[unborn valve]

can i get some lineup suggestions for fam arena?

[ashen furnace]

front: Ebon, Mite (both need def & hp jellies)
back: Suiryu, Hippo (both need atk jelly), and Toko

[unborn valve]

thanks

will do

[lapis olive]

I've got A9 boar with 2 of his 4* toys and 1 of his 5* toy, can I even put this guy in arena? Is he useful at this stage without any gummies on him? My Arena lineup as been A2 ebon A3 suiryu A6 Mite A7 toko and A9 oro, can I replace one of these even just for defense?

[mellow marsh]

lovely

[carmine ether]

Why use a bunny if yout team are just made of tanks?

[little glacier]

seems about right

[clear pulsar]

Why I can't transfer enhancement from my Prince of Whale +300 ?
I already unequip it from any decks / classes and already unequip toys too. Anyone can help ?

[random pumice]

tips on which familiars to upgrade/work on or replace based on the ones I have?

[finite sparrow]

probably used in familiar arena defense/attack. try changing your familiar arena setup first.

[clear pulsar]

Yup thanks !

[normal copper]

Hey guys, I have Shrimpaler that has a passive that states Increase attack speed by +1% for each fire familiar equipped.

Does the +1% aspd applies to the character or to Shrimpaler only?

[untold vapor]

ban boar and toko

[carmine ether]

You rly need help with it. How you spend your gummies, the combo, the set its all bad

[jagged reef]

@normal copper aspd apply to the partner, which is your character.

[jagged reef]

Hide bunnybot behind ebon then front mite.

[jagged reef]

Byrdie ebon front
Hippo suryu toko
Thank me later

[normal copper]

Thanks!

[jagged reef]

With ur fams, I can suggest you need two damager, If only one make sure that mite is strong enough.
Ex. Toko, boar, bunny, ebon and mite.
Risky but you can win.

[sinful cave]

when are you going to release one of these 2??

[pastel root]

not now pls

[midnight frigate]

heard october halloween is cat but idk might be different

[agile sail]

Relixx after squid.. probably! But I'm hoping for it.. hehehe

[mellow marsh]

Normal summon got Tarakona finally

[random pumice]

I'm sory but just saying it's bad doesn't really help me understand what I need to change, I'm f2p mostly so I enhanced what I had, and what worked at the time, and when I got Hippo, I leveled it up to pair it with my suiryu since thats what i knew, and my archnes was just strong since I use it mainly in pvp already and I heard it was good, and toko and soarboar because they got powered up from the episodes, so if you're trying to make fun of me congrats, but I was asking for help since I know this team wasn't working out, I'm not gonna go whale out on rolls, I started playing after the supposed nerf ppl talked about so I have no idea how good previous roles were, I just know current ones suck and I have 0 plans to roll for whatever familiar u want me to get, I thought by asking for help here I would get some info for a batter team comp from people who understand the familiars more and know the game better than me since i'm clearly doing something wrong to not even pass top 50%, but I would idealy like to just focus on the ones I do have, even if they aren't leveled, like would some be better to focus on to level, i also though there mightve been some that have good abilities even at a0 to just plug and play in the team but I guess thats not the case? i hear so much conflicting information online its hard to know whats what

[final cloak]

is squibby any good to invest on rn?

[olive drift]

Hi, can someone tell me what is the difference between this two options?

[ashen furnace]

Hi I'll try to help you with your question. Im also f2p/low spender tho and since the population decline I'm never get into top 10% anymore, can only achieve top 20% so take this advice with grain of salt

You have a really good roster as f2p, you have Stag and A1 Hippo for AoE combo, you have A3 Byrde, you have A5 Shrimpaler that good with Toko for stale formation on defense team. All of this are worth investing but sadly as f2p we are limited with our jellies. So with the limited knowledge I have I would like to give you this suggestion:

1. Raise your Byrde and give him max Def and HP jellies

2. Raise your Hippo and give him max Atk Jellies

3. Then try this line up:
   Front: Byrde - Arachnes
   Back: Suiryu, Toko, Hippo

4. If along the way Byrde keep dying often before he able to release his AoE, then give your Toko max Def and HP jellies, put him on frontline, and swap your Suiryu or Arachness (experiment which one better) with Shrimpaler

5. Video to give you a glimpse how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGGhkwesbDU, you can also subscribe to him, he made lot of content dedicated to Familiar Arena.

Good Luck!

Edit : #💬｜general-chat message If you prefer to invest on your Sore Boar, but this line up will be hard againts Hippo, Suiryu, and possibly Puffu.

[ashen furnace]

If you can high awaken her yes. Squibby together with Toko, Flower Girl, and possibly the new Fire Bat are top support on familiar arena. For PVE iirc she will be meta on water deck until the old snowman arrive. Idk if she good for PVP.

[random pumice]

omg thank you so much for the detailed feedback, I really appreciate this, and I feel you, I got the rimu from the free 4* rare selection cause I know im never gonna get asterite but like you said, as f2p, every rank category matters even for just the gold so I will definately be trying to invest in this, I didn't realize byrde was good for familiar arena as when I first got It i think I thought the battlefield ment lava valley or something lol, I'll try the byrde strat since I haven't invested any jelly in sore boar so I guess thats fine, also the video really helped as well with the breakdown he was giving for the team synergy vs individual abilities like archnes melting front row then dying (what I had)vs team supporting byrde and surviving to win, I also haven't focused as much on getting jellies I guess apart from the daily in kingdom shop since for the conquest I was focusing on getting mount accessories, do you think hte suiryu frostbite with hippo is worth it or is that too low awakening to matter in a matching vs using archnes like you mentioned I should test since Im not sure if that was something I should factor in my decision, I was also thinking about the tarakona meta so it would be water vs fire and how much influence the type advantage might have. again thanks for the help!

also If I understood this correctly, for defense I'm focusing on Stag, Byrde, Shrimpaler, Hippo, Tokko and for offense: byrde, archnes, suiryu, toko, hippo for now?:

[ashen furnace]

I suggest Hippo for your line up because his AoE gathering enemies to the center so when Byrde and Arachnes release their AoE it will have a better chance to hit all enemy familiars. And it will deal good damage together with Suiryu (Frostbite Effect) againts more or less same level CP opponent, as long as u max Atk Jelly ur Hippo.

[ashen furnace]

As f2p with limited resources (Jellies) better focus on raising 5 familiars that are well rounded, can be use on both offense and defense team. The line up I suggest on you are the kind of line up that can be use on offense and defense.

[random pumice]

I see, would it be worth splitting up for the second lineup later when I get more resources?

or better to just focus on this and then divert attention elsewhere like toys I guess or cp for character

since I'm still thinking surviving might be a better strat for defense instead of trying to kill while betting on the abilities for defense when I just gotta play time, unless i'm wrong

[ashen furnace]

I forget to mention Ebon Taurex and Stagthorn can interrupt Hippo, so this plan will not work smoothly againts each or both of them

[ashen furnace]

Yes, later after u gain more resources and experiences u will have enough roster for offense and defense.

[random pumice]

ok, thanks for all your help

now, to fix my swordsman 😂

[ashen furnace]

Some use this tactic, but dont forget when u attack they reward u with the red heart star for character progression.

[final cloak]

any lineup recommendations? tia

[ashen furnace]

Try to find more info before u take my suggestion, cos again Im just top 20% pleb . Like Sore Boar, so far I get mix opinion some say he's good, some say he's not good.

Your welcome

[ashen furnace]

Ebon, Mite, Toko, Shrimpaler, Suiryu

[cunning cosmos]

First one is estimated to be oct 5th and the 2nd one oct 17th

[versed drift]

this is the current lineup i have

who would be the best candidate for jelly enhancment ?

[dusty mortar]

any ideas who should I go for? I still haven't used my rare egg yet

[dusky turtle]

Replace firelynx with Taurex. And IMO, you can also replace boar with oro now or if he gets awake 5 since your boar awake is pretty low

[dusty mortar]

yeah. I got unlucky with the event. thanks btw! ❤️

[dusky turtle]

Your Staghorn is awake 1 so I guess its good too. You can use it together with Taurex or replace them with each other.

But maybe focus on 1 first so you can +300 them faster

[heavy ermine]

What buffs does Rimu remove? Is Sore Boar buff (after team mate died) one of 'em?

[half gyro]

i watched one vid on yt. the sore boar buff can't be removed when he tried on fam adventure

[dull meteor]

planning to replace mite with a stag a1 or an ebon a3

im taking suggestions since i have 300 jellies ready

[cunning cosmos]

Hope you got another 300 ready for relixx

[dull meteor]

netmarble is pretty generous with jellies in the events so I should be able to earn atleast half before relixx

"IF" i get a relixx

[dusky turtle]

Is Dinoceros good? I haven't tried him but IMO he can be the one to be replaced. But if there's too much hippo suiryu in your server then you can replace mite

[dull meteor]

this is his skill multiplier at a6

i also have 3 of his toys, one time i saw him deal 8k to a mite

[cunning cosmos]

Dino hits extremely hard but without gummies he will probably evaporate

[dusky turtle]

Well if that's the case then you can replace mite I think

[dull meteor]

he also works well with a grouping cc (stag/hippo) but in my case i dont know if a stag with only awake 1 is good enough

[dusky turtle]

I just really hate fighting against mite + oro combo since their knock down is really op if not cancelled. Especially for my lineup where I only have 2 attack fams at the back

[dull meteor]

oro can hit 2 range backliners from hitting one frontliner

his hitbox is nuts, only downside is the wind-up

[dusky turtle]

Yeah that's the annoying thing, especially that I use suiryu hippo

[dull meteor]

should i just go with a1 stag instead of ebon?

i also have these

[dusky turtle]

Yeah I personally would use a1 staghorn than a3 ebon

also you have 3x of his toys and 1 5 star

[dull meteor]

ebon on the other hand only have 1 of his toys, but 5 star

[dusky turtle]

Yeah stag would be good I think

3x toys, can pull familiars at the backline, counter for hippo suiryu

just don't get 1 shot by high awake mite lol

[dull meteor]

im just worried of getting his skill canceled by enemy ebon/hippo/mite

[dusky turtle]

I'm not sure but I fought with staghorn a couple of times and if I remember right he is one of the last familiars to cast their skills.

So ebon/hippo/mite can cast their skills but stag's is still ready

not sure but you can test it

If I'm right rare familiars cast their skills last

Let me check my history and confirm to others if its true

But yeah I don't think you don't have to worry about his skill getting cancelled. But ofcourse you can test it if you want to be 100% sure

[dull meteor]

if only we have test runs in fam arena i wouldnt want to drop from top 30 from trying it unjellied

[dusky turtle]

Just hope someone who knows can answer it lol

But personally if I wouldn't think too much about it, I would just pick a1 stag over a3 ebon. Maybe use ebon when he gets like a5 and 3x toys or something

[dull meteor]

Alright. Thanks man

[timid coral]

Based on my experience. Stag always do skill first before hippo. It cancels hippo skill 99% of the time. Only 1 time I saw hippo skill not got canceled by stag.

[autumn tundra]

I knew there was a familiar arena advice channel before. I'm looking for a fam arena offensive build advice.

Currently, it's Soar Boar, Molten, then Toko Suiyru Hippo in the back

[Entirely F2P player]

[untold vapor]

taurex boar
molten toko suiryu

or

taurex boar
suiryu toko hippo

hippo for combo
molten for deff

[autumn tundra]

Thank you!
If anyone has any other suggestions I'm all ears :D This suggestion does make lots of sense though :)

[lavish axle]

what's the difference between the first two lines in mass breeding familiars?

And is it worth it at all to choose something in the desired?

[dusky turtle]

just pick the one above, it gives higher chance of getting that familiar

also if you also need 3 stars for whatever reasons, bulk hatch is not ideal so you can separate 3 star and 4 star wish tags and wont like cross their chances

if you get what im saying

[final cloak]

comp recommendation pls. ty

[mellow marsh]

IMO
Offense - ebon mite suiryu toko hippo (sub. oro)
Defense - ebon xxx suiryu toko shrimp or boar (xxx - depend on enemy, maybe mite / oro)

[vocal fiber]

For familiar arena, should I pick molten awake 3 or staghorn awake 0? For attack and defense

[flint sentinel]

man boar meta kills my orob (highest awk from normal summon)

[timid coral]

If u are entirely f2p then u should have whambat a10. Very useful. And use hippo for now and not suryu coz ur hippo is already +300. Get ur high awake with jellies first. Get boar then toko to +300.it will be hard long journey coz ur f2p.

[teal jasper]

Hi guys! Any comp recommendations?

[vapid adder]

Get awaken 7 first on rare before approval

[teal jasper]

[timid coral]

You already have a good familiar. The only thing is the positioning. U just need not to place stag in line with mite. U can place stag in front of enemy ebon but it's skill will get delayed.

[vapid adder]

Glad now can top 100

[young tartan]

Just got the 4* familiar box from the 100 days event. Which should I choose?

[vapid adder]

@fiery shadow

[fiery shadow]

class, pvp or fam arena, current familiars

[young tartan]

Engineer, farm/bosses, current familiars (Tarakona is my only rare familiar, then I have Sore Boar, Mite, Ebon, Siuryu, Byrde, the healer squid thing, the healer floating bear thing, and Oroboros)

[fiery shadow]

wdym by farm/bosses

this depends on your equipment and not mainly familiars

[young tartan]

Meant farming field and world bosses. But now that I think about it, I'd rather have a good familiar for arena.

[fiery shadow]

@thin tusk

[thin tusk]

too late for arena now unless you hoarded up jellies from the events

everyone's cp now is too bloated

even low end tier teams

they have 300k cp.

if you like arena just use the basic team

soar ebon suiryu squibby and mite

[finite sparrow]

anyone has any idea what familiar we will get next event?

[cunning cosmos]

Nope

Just wait

[primal wyvern]

Hi! Any comp recommendations?

[quiet grail]

What are good byrdie formations

[timid coral]

With toko and shrimp as healers.

[flint sentinel]

1-2 melee (including byrde) and the rest range

[finite plaza]

can someone tell me how many times does pipsqueek shoot his arrow?

[dusky turtle]

Attack: Dino, oro, Toko, Mite, suiryu
Def: can use same as attack or use oro, boar, shrimp, Suiryu, toko

[crimson drum]

why is my mite always going circles?

[serene forge]

I noticed that some fam will have priority target..for example front row ebon will almost attack another front row ebon..prob same thing with mite

Help me decide which fam to spend jelly on...and attack team compo

[dusky turtle]

That also happens to me and I don't know the reason why. I've lost so much because of that lol

Maybe you can try posting that on general chat too since most people can't see it here 🤣

[feral viper]

is it normal for toko to miss an ally familiar when healing?

[flint sentinel]

might be a visual bug

[finite plaza]

how many times does mite strike also does his 100% burn only apply to his 1 attack or the total of all of them?

[timid coral]

Suryu +300 toko +300

[vocal fiber]

any build recommendations?

current line up: molten, ebon taurex, sore boar, toko, hippocampus
issue: lack in damage

[serene forge]

I heard that if you play sore boar you need at least 3 melee in your comp

So that sore boar skill activated easily/early

[wind matrix]

Help me! My hippo got all exclusive 4s toys.

[agile sail]

If you can't have both, which one is better, Relixx or Auroralynx? Thank you in advance.

[flint sentinel]

both r good. if u wanna try to compete rankings in epi event aurora might help u w that

[thin tusk]

if you are struggling with your team, dont be afraid to try out whambat

[finite sparrow]

anyone played kr version? is bougie normal atk melee, range or semi in familiar arena?

[eternal gale]

Thats because ur frontline melee and range, and ur enemy having the same way. It will different if you switch ur mite to face with their range frontline. Mite will meet each other in the mid

[light willow]

I believe Aurora is the better option for pvp since stun tends to be the best cc at the moment but they are mostly similiar.

I'd say you either go for Auroralynx because of the event buff
or
you go for the one whose element would compliment your PvE deck's respective element better

[agile sail]

Thanks!

[maiden turtle]

is bougie ranged?

[finite sparrow]

yes. tried it in adventure. long range.

a bit bummer for me personally since i really need free 4star from event that is melee.

[midnight frigate]

isnt bougie a healer

[light willow]

Nope, he takes his own health and buffs the allies in the familar arena.

He is indeed a healer if you have him in your deck though.

[finite sparrow]

how many times mite hit per skill in arena?

[dull meteor]

i think its 6 hits, i just based it to oroboros' skill %

[light willow]

I feel like I heard 6 hits in some conversation as well.

Sounds like a solid theory

[light willow]

Maybe toys

[narrow elk]

having problem to enhance transfer my familiar is there anything I can do?

[light willow]

Try unlocking the familiar

[narrow elk]

already unlocked

[light willow]

the light 1* taurus as well?

[narrow elk]

was suppose to absorb the taurus but it blocked

that's the problem

Ruf 1star to Taurex 1star taurex works

so i dont think thats what needed to be done

[light willow]

Did you enhance the light taurex or did you enhanc transfer to the taurex?

[narrow elk]

enhance the ruf then transfer it to taurex

[light willow]

Yeah, you can only transfer the +300 enhancement once.

That's why most people enhance the nat 1* monsters and put it on natural 4* monsters

[tall zenith]

Guys, what are the special stats on lvl107 possessed heart?

[light willow]

Like I enhanced transfered my taurex +300 to my boar +0 and then I had a boar +300.

But I can't transfer from my boar+300 to pipsqueak again.

[narrow elk]

could it be a 1 time transfer only allowed?

[light willow]

Yes, exactly.

A familiar that benefited from an enhancement transfer, can't transfer it's own enhancement to another familiar

[narrow elk]

so in short semi wasted jellies

sad

[light willow]

Mhh, I don't know how much jelly you get for releasing it though

You get 0 additional jellies for releasing it with enhancements :c

[narrow elk]

cant even release it

sadge

[marsh thistle]

I transfered my jellies several times. Its possible

has taurus toys equipped? Is it in fam arena? In other decks equipped?

[narrow elk]

found the problem

it was in FAM ARENA

[marsh thistle]

better only transfer to a0 familiars. The A10 (especially 2*) can be released for resources. By enhancment transfer itll get destroyed

[midnight frigate]

you can just transfer 1s to 1s

[spare lion]

line up suggestion for fam arena pls thank you ❤️

[mellow marsh]

looking forward to see new fam. arena meta after auroralynx released. xD

[agile sail]

Is Auroralynx worth it? or should I wait for Relixx? For F2P with 100% guaranteed tickets.

[spare lion]

Saw this a while ago in nnk KR forums.

[wind oasis]

What toys should I equip my shrimps mee with in fam arena ? I’ve got a 4 stars exclusive toy equipped and have two more slots. I’m currently equipping 2x4 stars def toys, should I switch to attack instead ?

[latent flare]

brooooooo 21 coupon tickets holy molly

[woeful viper]

What toys should I give auroralynx?

[light willow]

Which ones do you think are fitting? @woeful viper

I personally wouldn't give it molten lava toys. I just don't think dog toys are for cats

[woeful viper]

Hahahah, I dont know, I don't know if I should give it attack or defense toys xp

[rigid eagle]

Suryu+Hippo, Boar+Mite and Toko. Back line: Suryu, Boar, Hippo. Front line: Boar in front Toko and Mite in front Hippo

[rigid eagle]

Will leave my analytics here:

1. Auroralynx on a3 does 72% damage in awaken 3 every hit (mathematically its 1386) and every 30 seconds it stuns+makes flash. The thing is that there are no familliars who benefit from flash. Like Hippocampus with freeze.

2. Puffu on a5 every 3rd hit deals 20% of its attack (I used math and calculated that 20% of it's current 2140 attack is 428 and also if the is stunned he makes opponent familiars frozen and freeze does 100% damage.

3. Tarrakona on a4 every 3rd hit does 169% damage! But it's like every 5 seconds! So in 30 seconds it will perform his attack 6 times what is 169%*6! Of the overall damage. When u look the aftermatch statistics - he is not MVP and damage seems low, but on practice he shows different results. Great finisher.

4. Hippocampus is the king right now because he does 74% on a0 with every attack + he pulls opponents to the centre making most of AOE familliars damage every opponent fams AND he has 25% damage boost on frozen fams! Suryu deals freeze effect that's why u need to use them together.

[opaque marten]

@flint sentinel like this?

[flint sentinel]

yeaa so ppl who knows f arena can help u

[opaque marten]

thanks the line up is good now xD

[flint sentinel]

pog ez top 100

[mellow marsh]

not a fan of shrimp and boar on offense team.

consider ebon and mite as replacement

[earnest ice]

Advice on which familiars to use to counter boar, toko, shrimp team pls, thank you!

[serene forge]

Suiryuu, hippo, stag is sure combo against boar.

But if your stag no developed, you can use kona...in your case ild choose kona,suiryuu, hippo, bull and toko to counter boar

[mellow marsh]

how well is Auroralynx?
IMO, ebon stag toko hippo suiryu (or tarakona).
a0 stag with maxed def and hp jelly should be able to made the combo come true. <- this lower your overall cp for baiting (hide stag and other one on your choice)
or ebon oro toko hippo kona (suiryu) <- this made cp go higher

[earnest ice]

My aurora is a1, still no jellies
My team is fine on def, but I keep losing on atk, everyone is using boar toko shrimp and they just wont die

[mellow marsh]

hippo + suiryu are sure the real answer.

and stag should be good for pulling shrimp at the back to your combo.

tank ebon should go to the back and pull all range enemy to focus on him.

[earnest ice]

Thanks! I’ll try adding stag, never tried before

[harsh cloud]

is a3 kona better than a9 mite?

[harsh cloud]

idk man shrimpaler is now broken with those healing buff

[mellow marsh]

I can see only 8 shrimp on my server's top 100

[harsh cloud]

even 20k cp dif I still got time out, toko shrimp and boar a10 is already broken now. With 2 other melee fam as sacrifice for boar make us fight against time

[harsh cloud]

a lot of people on my server using shrimp now even without jelly for def team

[mellow marsh]

maybe your suiryu and hippo are not strong enough.

I cant find shrimp team to fight. there is no shrimp team around me. xD

[harsh cloud]

yeah I think my a1 hippo is not good enough but I dont have any choice, It is good to avoid that team for now

[mellow marsh]

did u try hippo-suiryu combo? (with stag would be nice)

suiryu will be your main dps here.

[harsh cloud]

yeah It didn't end so well

[mellow marsh]

keep in mind that hippo has a lower dps than suiryu. (IMO)

[harsh cloud]

I need to know what awaken ur suiryuu need to beat that boar

[mellow marsh]

last time with boar shrimp toko, Im not sure. maybe a7 suiryu with a3 or 4 hippo with stag as well.

and their toys will help too.

[harsh cloud]

how to make sure that stag suck shrimp and not toko into the middle? do u know?

[mellow marsh]

stag pull the farthest fams to him.

I always place him on pos2. (front bottom)

hippo on his back

or middle of the back.

[harsh cloud]

I see, all I know is stag usually pull across from his location. like if u put stag in the bottom then he'll pull top middle (behind frontline), is that correct?

[mellow marsh]

likely yes.

the point of this combination is that stag pull then suiryu attaches the frostbite debuff. and our hippo torrents them with addition frostbitten dmg bonus.

but be careful with Oroboros if u r not strong enough. xD

[harsh cloud]

but even we could kill boar, we need to kill toko after that, and sometime the only fam that we've got at that time is hippo suiryuu and toko. With how much time left it still hard

[mellow marsh]

yeah, that maybe the problem left.
but I hardly lose to that situation. (all my fam are maxed jellies, so toko will help atk as well and if your tank still alive, that a plus.)

[random oar]

i need a defensive and offensive teams suggestions

for familiar arena

[serene forge]

Invest your shrimp and use the usual shrimp, toko, boar,bull, suryuu for def

[light pilot]

Same setup/powers

RNG pet arena

[flint sentinel]

yea crits are rng

[light pilot]

what about this

[simple urchin]

need a offensive line up suggestion please, thank u

[mortal narwhal]

hello... can i get help which should i choose for a lineup?

https://i.imgur.com/AUbRTeL.png

[mellow marsh]

Offensive: ebon mite toko a.lynx suiryu

[mellow marsh]

ebon mite (oro/stag) toko hippo suiryu

[simple urchin]

how about the position?

[mellow marsh]

any. just ebon mite (oro/stag pos2) will be in front and the rest back.

sometime toko can be tank if the opponent's dps is water.

[simple urchin]

like this, right?

[simple urchin]

okay, thanks in advice

[mellow marsh]

I would suggest stag on pos2.

[simple urchin]

what it mean pos2?

[mellow marsh]

front bottom (try remove all fam and when u input them, that the position I talk about 1-5)

[simple urchin]

ah okayy okayy

[mellow marsh]

From your photo, I would suggest you to invest more on Suiryu (or any range fam. ex: a10 Whambat/Draggle/Bumbler)
Offensive: ebon mite oro toko and range dps fam
Defensive: ebon molten (or disbeleaf) boar toko oro
ps: depend on the opponent

[trail garden]

what does flash effect do in fam arena

[mortal narwhal]

will try this out. thank you!

[mellow marsh]

like frostbite/poison/burn/corrupt, it's dot.

[woeful viper]

Would an aw6 penguicorn be better than an aw3 suiryu?

My current team is aw0 auroralynx, aw3 suiryu aw7 oroboros, aw9 sore boar and aw8 toko

[mellow marsh]

they are different type.

[mellow marsh]

is this defense or offense lineup?

[woeful viper]

Offence

[mellow marsh]

I dont think boar should be on offense team.

[woeful viper]

I dont really have anything to replace him with I think tho, everything else is pretty low awakening

[mellow marsh]

can u show me what u got?

[woeful viper]

Yup hold on

[mellow marsh]

more below

[woeful viper]

Thats it

[mellow marsh]

no toko? seems like u r new comer, right?

[woeful viper]

Oh wait, thats not all, forgot that it doesnt show the 300+ enhanced, hold on

[mellow marsh]

your backline should be toko suiryu a.lynx and looks like oro is your main tank. that 1 pos left in the frontline. maybe mite or boar.

[woeful viper]

Im running that exact setup with boar atm

[mellow marsh]

but i dont like boar on offensive team honestly.

so which team did u struggle with this lineup?

[woeful viper]

Everything that has a boar 200+ I can't kill

[mellow marsh]

lack of water then

[woeful viper]

Yeah, maybe I should start enhancing my suiryu?

[mellow marsh]

u should

and crowhawk would be nice.

[woeful viper]

Alright I'll start working on it, thanks!

[mellow marsh]

if everybody around u got boar, then u need high awaken suiryu or need more water fam like crowhawk.

and splisher can be tank if there a lot of fire around.

or the whale

[random oar]

need defense team for familiar arena

[glad chasm]

hello, how is a good combination for my team to reach a rank of 10% or maybe more

[proven tundra]

on Hippocampus, you mean 74% on every aoe skill?

[wind oasis]

any help in offensive and defensive lineup and placement? I keep losing on attacks, defense still holding on quite well.

[mellow marsh]

first 5, ebon mite stay front

[mellow marsh]

offense: ebon stag toko suiryu hippo
def: ebon mite boar toko suiryu (sub. oro hippo)

[mellow marsh]

if u struggle with boar, try add more water. (like suiryu hipo crowhawk)

[velvet mirage]

I am top 10 in my server. Curious if anyone has any insight

[wind oasis]

do i need to feed jellies to suriyu? if yes, is 100 attack jellies enough or should +300?

[queen cosmos]

Can someone teach me how to enchant absorb? Should we unequip familiar first from deck?

[mellow marsh]

everyone got 300 jellies eventually. but if u r at starting line, atk to atk fam and def hp to tank/sup fam.

[mellow marsh]

u r in top10, seems like u should share your insight with us. xD

I can share mine. for my server, there is some team use strong disbeleaf as sub-tank. he has a strong single target heal. (usually to tanker) and that will ruin opponent team.

[earnest ice]

Does mite always lure ebon to come to him if mite is placed at the front?

[dire ginkgo]

is bougie worth enhancing this round, or no? considerations for pve and pvp

[lapis shore]

i can't release this fker
its not equip to any class or whatever

[mellow marsh]

check your familiar adventure or arena deck(s)

[lapis shore]

all checked, none

[rigid eagle]

I can see your Rimu a3. How's he?

[lapis shore]

not rimu

goblin

[rigid eagle]

goblin, then goes rhino and next to him Rimu?

[lapis shore]

sont have rimu

dont

[hollow fog]

any fam expert there need help

i have shrimp but only a0

i also have extra jellies saved up

any idea/suggestions for atk def lineups.. thank you!

[mellow marsh]

do u have ebon?

[hollow fog]

at a0 yes

[mellow marsh]

how ppl around u? how their team look like?

[hollow fog]

they have shrimp toko boarfor def.. other 2 are prob. suiryu/mite/hippo/some oro or even 3rd healer like disbelief/

ebon also

some has puffu at atleast a0

[mellow marsh]

IMO
offensive: mite(oro) stag toko suiryu hippo / mite oro toko suiryu hippo

[hollow fog]

q: if i had the chance to get another free 4s rare(which we will soon) should i awken stag or hippo?

[mellow marsh]

hippo

[hollow fog]

how about for def

[mellow marsh]

stag + 200 jellies (hp+def) should be ok.

[hollow fog]

no need boar for atk?

[mellow marsh]

def: mite oro toko suiryu hippo / mite oro toko suiryu boar (more defensive)

[mellow marsh]

boar suck in term of attack, no nuke.

sometime, best def is best atk. try it yourself, then learn from replay.

[hollow fog]

aight thanks!

[crude bluff]

is there anyone already got roralynx on hatch??

[mellow marsh]

u cant

no kona or a.lynx on hatch

[hollow fog]

is it still worth the 100 atk jellies on a0 stag?

[mellow marsh]

ofc

if u use him.

[mellow marsh]

did u check all familiar arena decks (both offense and defense)?

[lapis shore]

removed all decks all class

i just want to remove that fker

as you can see there's no deck/class tag so its clearly a bug

i already report hoping they fix it

[mellow marsh]

could u show me your familiar arena lineup?

[lapis shore]

im just rank 2-10

[mellow marsh]

I tot this not work with familiar arena decks

[lapis shore]

oh

it might be there

haven't check yet

[mellow marsh]

yeah, I mean that one.

[lapis shore]

oh hes there

fkkk

[lapis shore]

thanks ma friend

[mellow marsh]

your welcome xD

[lapis shore]

bye byeeee

[swift jungle]

Hi, just wondering how does enhancement absorb works in familiar? If 1s fam with 300jellies want to transfer it on another 1s fam (and so on until 4s fam). How much does enhance absorbing cost? And if those transferred jellies can be use until I transfer it all into the familiars I want for collection record?

[rigid eagle]

@swift jungle 8.8кк gold total from 1 star to one 4 star

[untold vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983744395205541911/1035952847306620938/unknown.png

[hollow fog]

same in our server lmfao

[mellow marsh]

just realize that fam arena weekly rewards cut off at 1:30 PM GMT +7. (season reward still 1 PM GMT +7)

[gaunt moon]

What familiars should I prioritize after Mite, Oroboros and Suiryu? I have all normal 4 stars, no rares

I play swordsman if that changes anything

[rigid eagle]

So, question on Penguicorn or whatever his name is. Has anyone tested this familliar? Did you like it or not?
I tried it, and as far as what I've seen it basically works in a way that it debuffs opponents with blind effect on the familiar arena and when they r blinded for 4 seconds and use their ultimate abilities - there is a chance to miss. Also in order it to shine - it must be the 1st one to use its ability. And to do so he needs 5-6 star toys. I think he is not a great option for arena

[mellow marsh]

depend on which content u want to focus?

[mellow marsh]

RNGesus. ahhhh

[gaunt moon]

Mainly PvE but maybe some casual pvp too. Have a more defensive build, but offensive familiars

[mellow marsh]

Sparkee and Dino.

[hollow fog]

for FA, is it better to use that 5s toy on suiryu rather than a 4s suiryu toy?

[mellow marsh]

more star first

[wind oasis]

anyone knows how to properly utilise auroralynx?mine a3 with 300 jellies doest seem to be effective in FA

[rigid eagle]

on FA its kinda trash. my is a7 and 3 toys and her attack is so-so

[rigid eagle]

@hollow fog 5 stars for sure need to go 1st, because despite having same percentage as 4star personal toy, it has higher attack Stat on it

I made Ebon taurex a7 +300 today. Will see how he's doing on FA. Now need to save up 8kk gold, so I can transfer jelly from 1 star to Boar

[dire ginkgo]

tips for fam arena? deck here + a0 penguicorn + a3 mite + a6 toko

[agile sail]

How the hell are we supposed to beat Boar-Toko-Shrimp? Given that we only have Suiryu as attack type pokemon. 😭😭😭

[spring hazel]

stag + hippo boom or dino sent frontline to back then can reach healer at backline

[mellow marsh]

a.lynx's flash got fix, that's fast.

[rigid eagle]

so it supposed to work like tarakona, right? because i used lynx and it simply did not reach opponent and i fked my skill

[mellow marsh]

not like that, the flash bug is from FA skill (3rd row). it didn't apply flash as it said.

[rigid eagle]

go toko, byrde, shrimp, suriyu and mite. byrde and mite front row

[rigid eagle]

oh, ok. my lynx is a7 and i don't like it because it misses a lot. kona never miss

[mellow marsh]

yeah, hard to use in lava. need kona's first to make sure it hits.

[mellow marsh]

let see will this fix boost up a.lynx in FA

[agile sail]

What is flash effect? Is it when flashed, you will miss a lot of your attacks?

[mellow marsh]

dot like burn, freeze, poison

[wind oasis]

Yeah same here. I have no stag my suriryu a5 only and hippo a0 only

[rigid eagle]

I love my new team!

[lapis shore]

best familiar for witch attack mode?

aurorlynx + bougie + ????

[void mesa]

Do you know if there will be any chance in the future to obtain again Bougie, Sore Boar, and Toko?

[rigid eagle]

Next year

[rigid eagle]

And lightfish

[sage condor]

any tips?

[rigid eagle]

@sage condor def toko, byrde, shrimp, Suriya, hippo

[dire ginkgo]

ty! :)

[hollow fog]

for BTS teams in fam arena is a2 shrimp enough alongside a10 toko and a9 boaar?

[gaunt moon]

Should I put my 300 gummies in Tarakona or one of my more awakened normal 4 stars? 453k CP F2P swordsman player atm

[mellow marsh]

how much awakening for Tarakona rn? other fams? which contents u want to focus on?

[latent flare]

higher awake shrimp would be better but if you want you can test it, a9 boar is good combined with a9 or a10 toko

[gaunt moon]

0 awakening. Other familiars around 2 to 3 awakening. Mix of everything but mainly PvE and progressing atm

[mellow marsh]

focus on suiryu,mite,oroboros,dino,sparkee.

[gaunt moon]

Okay thanks, I'm assuming Tarakona is more mid-late game or high end familiar arena

Depending on awakening

[mellow marsh]

yes, but normal 4 star with high awakening is better than low awakening kona.
and if u focus on FA, put the resources on toko too. (if u have one)

[gaunt moon]

Great to know, thanks. Sorry for the bombardment of questions xD

I also used my first 300 gummies to max all 1-3 stars, since I heard it's quite the nice boost. Now I have to choose who of those 5 gets the boost tho

[rigid eagle]

Why Auroralynx is not OP on the FA: https://youtu.be/5pD3GZZQC7w

[rigid eagle]

Mmm, I'm loving it!

[marsh thistle]

tell me your secret x)

how can your offense team beat the others with 3 healers in it? o.O
Defense makes sense to me though

[mellow marsh]

stag can pull them to u

[marsh thistle]

I know, but he/she has no stag in his/her team

[mellow marsh]

u mean his/her defense team? (based on the pic)

[marsh thistle]

yes 😄

on another pic it shows 3 healers

[mellow marsh]

I see, there's another pic.

the opponent frontline cant get pass his/her frontline, then there u go.

Suiryu is the DPS, shrimp help pass Oro and Toko, then boom.

[rigid eagle]

@marsh thistle I actually got 2nd place today. That guy with bunny and stag was 1st. I tried to kill him, but ran out of time even though all my fams were alive and he had only lynx alive! His bunny is a8, stag a7, lynx a8. And I'm using like all f2p team)

[mellow marsh]

I tot that too much support on attack team.

[rigid eagle]

his lynx was 20% though as u see. 10 seconds more and I would've won

[mellow marsh]

yeah that close, but lose is lose, right? maybe u can replace 1 sup with 1 atk/def fam. that probably does it.

[rigid eagle]

I'll try replacing Shrimp with Mite. Loss is loss - correct. I'm just saying that even though he is a whale that invested a lot of money in his team - it's beatable with a f2p setup

I need to burst that stag real quick, because Kona and Shrimp left him like 15% and he survived and Toko stared healing him

Taurex in that position cancelled Bunnybots 1st ult

[mellow marsh]

u're right! It's doable with f2p setup. (lucky one xD)

plus some knowledge and tactic u learned from replay.

[rigid eagle]

I fight only top 10 guys and have a lot of familiars and toys, so I know a lot of stuff about familiars)

[mellow marsh]

keep it up, I appreciate your knowledge.

[harsh cloud]

@mellow marsh what toys would u choose if u get 2x 6* toys from team arena?

[mellow marsh]

might be Toko.

[harsh cloud]

according to my calculation, its gonna be -2 sec from the current cd with other 2x 6* toys right?

[gusty nacelle]

Hallo ninokuni

Why can't install launcher? Me and my friend can't instal

Erorr

[harsh cloud]

wrong ch bro @gusty nacelle

[gusty nacelle]

I can't chat at general haven't promise

[harsh cloud]

it is familiars discussion

try to get role from #🔴｜role-select

[mellow marsh]

3x 4* toys -21% from 17 sec = 13.43
upgrade 2x 5* toys make it -27% from 17 sec = 12.41
upgrade 2x 6* toys make it -31% from 17 sec = 11.73

1.02 / 1.7 sec diff

I just acknowledged that FA on my server has no top 3% nor 7%.
Top100 then Top10%. LMAO
I didn't down below Top 100 for a while.

[hollow fog]

should i change the other suiryu toy with 5s like this?

[mellow marsh]

up to u, it almost the same. except the specific one give u less CP, good for baiting.

[weary dome]

what's the best counter again Soar Boars on attack? I'm unable to kill him often if their other frontliners dies first.

[dull meteor]

anyone experiencing ebon not using his skill first anymore with this setup? before, if i put him behind a familiar vs a front ebon he always charges first 100%, after weekly reset its not the case anymore

[mellow marsh]

high awk suiryu + hippo

[weary dome]

Is 0 awake hippo useable?

[mellow marsh]

u can try, but I dont think so.

[hexed dagger]

Hiii can anyone please give suggestion for fam arena lineup? Thankyouu!

[rigid eagle]

@hexed dagger the best u can go now is boar, toko, mite, suriyu, uroboros. But is all of them u have were a10, it would've been boar, toko, shrimp, the leaf leak guy (healer, can't remember name in english) and ebony taurex or dinosaur.

[mellow marsh]

bad day.

[glad chasm]

hello anyone can help me to set up familiar team for attacking thankyou~

[rigid eagle]

No one will. Wanna hear simple answer? Attack team ALWAYS depends on the opponents defence team! If u want to do good, u need to raise different familiars, so u will be versatile in attack. Opponent has boar and mite? -Use hippo+suriyu. He has cactus+oroboros (there is no cactus on global yet). - Use Kona+Mite. And etc. There is no a silver bullet for attack team. But u can try boar and byrde front and Toko, Shrimp and Suriyu back. I think this will be decent.

[torpid lagoon]

The butterfly fam is nerfed?

[rigid eagle]

Whet do u mean? Light 4st butterfly? No, it hasn't been nerfed, but it is a bad option to use on the FA

[timid coral]

Which do you think is better a5 arachne or a2 hippo?

[mellow marsh]

pvp - arachness
pve/FA - hippo

[fair hawk]

Can someone suggest to the GM's instead of percentage reward in familiar arena why not do it like bracketing system we don't have a lot of players in our server now. Current situation is 2407 points = rank 100 then 2406 points = 11%? so only top 1-100 have rewards weekly haha. Why not bracket it like

1-30
31-100
101-200
201-300
and so on.

[stable geode]

Better make it 1-50 than 1-30 and so on

[stable geode]

The easy answer is - depends on what you plan to face.
vs Toko + Shrimpaler or any massive healing combos - use Ebon Taurex or Staghorn.
vs Fire teams such as Mite + Boar use Hippo + Suri and so on.
ON THE OTHER HAND - if you need a Defense team, i have "living" chart based on Elements (i keep notes based on results and feedbacks) as i try to make it F2P teams as much as possible (1 Rare each at most).
So far my DEF highest win was on a 45K CP Gap.
Why? Because I lasted.
Being on DEF doesn't mean to overpower or Crash the opposing team, just to live until timer ends, and for that you have combinations for ages 🙂

That being said - goodluck, experiment with things, you'll like it more than actual PvP contents

[silver marsh]

should i replace dinosorus with arachne as my main darkness familiar?

do we have a tier list or sth?

[mellow marsh]

main darkness, so I guess u mean for PVE, right?
if yes, the answer is no.

[silver marsh]

oh im so nub, i use same set familiar for both pve and pvp

so you mean arachne is not for pve?

[mellow marsh]

yup, u can see her passive skill. dmg to player x%.

[silver marsh]

oh then if i still get her and use for only pvp still ok?
(i still keep dino for pve and wait for another better replacement tho)

[true ingot]

A0 arachnes is garbage, you are better off with shrimpaler or mite.

[true ingot]

uhmm, you are gonna be aiming for top 100? because you don't have any awakenings on the event familiars.

Depending on the echelon of players you fight and their comp+cp (awakenings and gear), you might be able to pull something off

Most people stupidly fall into the trap of using a rare familiar because it is rare. Unfortunately if it is not awakened to a reasonable level, your best units are Mite, Ebon Taurex, Oroboros, Occasionally Suiryu, Bryde, etc

Best healers are Toko A10 with toys and Shrimpaler

I play JP as well as NA and Toko is STILL used in competitive

There are even 3* units that are decent, like the green golem that gives def. aura

Your attack roster should always change in function with your opponent's revealed familiars.

It is nearly always safe to use an ebon taurex as it disrupts a minimum of 1 unit and it has same priority as Arachnes & Penguicorn (I do not recommend using this)

You will notice that their skills will cast after delays, look at the grey icon that rotates to white in the beginning, that means they are ready to use their skill but need to find a suitable location.

Furthermore, there are 3 main strategies for winning.

1. Team with insane burst to kill the enemy before they can do anything. This often requires a bunnybot to protect since you will only be running attackers. Arachnes in this team is needed, along with high cat (like my A10) as well as one disrupter either ebon taurex or maxed hobgoblin.

2. CC sustain or CC burst requires a healer sometimes a support/defender like ebon taurex, flutterby, the green golem if you are lower level. The CC comes in the form of cat, hippo, stag, mite, oroboros, etc. If you go burst, the old meta that still works on the right enemy is Suiryu, Hippo, Puffu.

3. Tank kill. Using tanky units that deal damage and don't die as long as they get heals, so Ebon and Byrde at high awakening. This team comp needs 2 healers Toko and Shrimp, and finally a dmg CC like cat.

4. jank build vs very specific familiars. If they have a water team, then bring your disbeleaf, toko, oroboros, etc and win. The disbeleaf and toko alone can tank a full water team if jellied.

By far, the most useful units (At high Awakening) are Cat, Mite, Oroboros, Stag, Hippo, Puffu, Bunnybot, Ebon Taurex, Kona, Toko, Shrimpaler, Flutterby, Byrde.

So unless you have comparable awakening for your rare units, probably don't use them unless you need bunnybot shield or hippo cc. But that is all that is released in global that is of any relevance.

If you look at my roster, my team often includes, Ebon Taurex, Cat, Mite, Toko, and Other (Bunnybot, Hippo, Stag, Oroboros, Suiryu, etc)

[true ingot]

She does not have homing like
Puffu, Cat, or Kona. If you have at least two of those, it would be better for you to take a Molten Lion or Bunnybot for Lava (or even a healer).

For those who missed cat, ouf. It is staple in FA, and very powerful in Lava.

[mellow marsh]

a.lynx's skills do not target enemy.

[true ingot]

Auralynx absolutely does. Same as Relixx

it's kneel in aoe on enemy. Is close enough just as Puffu can be gotten away with movement.

If you want to be super technical then fine it is not explicitly a homing missile.

[mellow marsh]

I mean it doesn't act like homing missile.

[true ingot]

I just wrote it is target aoe from long range that cc. It does a blink too. That is close enough.

We put them in the same category.

in JP

[mellow marsh]

I see your point.

[true ingot]

I can't have both NA/AS mark so I just keep as NA.

[true ingot]

Arachnes has to run up to unit, whereas Auralynx has a blink/teleport. It is considerably different.

[stable geode]

Arachne running up and not doing it as decent ranged makes her bad choice anyway

In any content

[true ingot]

She is good in FA in JP/KR she was buffed to attack faster.

Also, wrong. She is one of the only ways to beat the Byrde team.

If you have her A7 or A10, she will have priority skill similar to taurus and penguicorn.

Yes I tested every unit on the delayed cast time in my roster.

So those 3 in terms of cast speed, they are tier S for FA. tier A would be things like bunnybot, hippo, etc so on so forth

[true ingot]

Additionally, you can cc with another pet then arachnes and dead.

Perhaps you have not played with Auralynx and Relixx?

[stable geode]

Well, im not JP/KR player, so ... no about the relix part

My alynx is too weak rn as it needs more awks

[true ingot]

Here is my tip for you. Use Familiar specific toys in FA. Otherwise equip the highest stat stuff for other content. The toys effects do not work outside FA and the gathering place.

If you need help making a team, you can DM me. I often in 2nd-4th in Jade Taures depending on if I want to attack my guild or not, which is usually not.

[stable geode]

He is one of those im struggling to get the toys for, but i guess that will change with current event

Im not that good in FA overall, since i make my own DEF which stand out amazingly and then get stuck vs stronger oppoments on the ATK so i cant do anything (forcing myself to lose points to be able to attack again for daily reasons)

[true ingot]

Go ahead and DM me, I can try to help you out.

While I continue to try to post this darn suggestion.

[stable geode]

Still not loading?

[true ingot]

I don't know if I have content that is not allowed?

[stable geode]

Or needs to be filled under certain format like issue reporting

[true ingot]

eh it is just a suggesiton tho

not to do repeat banners when we have so many old familiars in JP/KR that came out within first few months

that have not seen the day of light here

[stable geode]

One day i will have my 2* Dark/Light Fams!

[true ingot]

eh

big changes occur at A1, A3, A7, A10

stats boost is bigger at A5

So if you are new, Mite is really best unit by far in FA along with the free A10 Toko and Boar.

Candle is meh

[stable geode]

I do have A10 Boar but Toko only A7

Candle is meh because his active on FA is meh

[severe star]

Hi!
Who can tell me what's the difference between familiars and grade in bulk hatch?

[rigid eagle]

I want that Hippo, would fit my team perfectly

[true ingot]

Familiar is a specific where as grade is just the ★

[true ingot]

Hehe

Funny enough, I seldom use it for top 10 matches

[mellow marsh]

there is a BTS barrier somewhere in your own server. 😄

Some below Top100, some in the middle of Top100, some Top30+.
This depends on how competitive that server is.

[rigid eagle]

I don't use boar. Boar+shrimp get's wrecked by suriyu+hippo

[mellow marsh]

remark: High awaked + jellied

[rigid eagle]

My boar is a10 +300, but i don't use him. Better to use Disbelief instead

[mellow marsh]

remark for suiryu and hippo to overpass maxed boar.
and ppl who got bullied by BTS don't have them awakened high enough.

[rigid eagle]

yea, suriyu still needs to be a10 and hippo id say a7+

[mellow marsh]

feel like those ppl need to join BTS side. xD
just attack 3 times a week then defense all the way to the top.

until they get high awakened suiryu and hippo

[true ingot]

Don't need that much to beat boar, just need a bit of damage.

Suiryū A10 and Hippo A7 is ridiculous

You can kill it with an A7 cat or even Kona

[rigid eagle]

@true ingot I highly doughty that u can kill boar with Kona. I'll try to find videos of different matches against boar. I have puf-puf, but it kinda sucks because they nerfed it on global

[true ingot]

I'm top 5 FA on two accs in Jade Taurus. I have killed one when only it and Toko remained.

[true ingot]

It's true that for new players an A10 boar is probably not going to be killable with A0-A3, but for anyone who has an A7 Suiryū, Mite, Cat, Kona, A5 Arachnes, Puffu, Hippo, or A8+ Byrde, and a not garbage team, it shouldn't be an issue.

[true ingot]

Puffu is actually still part of one of stronger comps but requires high awakening.

ザブーン

[rigid eagle]

@true ingot want to hear your thoughts on best def

[true ingot]

There's always a counter to a defense team. Commonly run in JP/KR is
Cat Green dragon (not stag)
Toko
Relixx Ebon Taurex

For defense, you can have 1) stall 2) kill 3) lose

You're using a stall team

I don't know what you usually fight, but a Kona Mite team kills that

[rigid eagle]

Everyone is using stall teams currently)

Basically BTS is a stall team

[true ingot]

Better than boar is A10 Byrde + A10 Cow cause you actually tank then kill them

[rigid eagle]

I don't have a10 byrde:(

[true ingot]

Dark and light consider them neutral cause they're only weak against each other

RBG are easily countered

[rigid eagle]

1 guy from top 10 has a10 Dino

[true ingot]

That team dies to any set up with Taurex cat mite Kona toko

Which is a very standard attack

A10 Dino is hit or miss

And it has lowest priority

A7 arachnes and others would kill it before it goes off

[rigid eagle]

Made top 1 with this

[true ingot]

Toko in front of mite

Sui in front of disbelief

[rigid eagle]

Disbelief is a melee

Mite too

[true ingot]

I know

[rigid eagle]

So they still will run front row

[true ingot]

It's about positioning and getting ranged attacks first

Swap Disbeleaf for ebon

So ebon behind sui

Mite behind toko

Cat replace shrimp

[rigid eagle]

I just placed a team to try on def

[true ingot]

The reason is okay to have it in second position

Is cause they're cc

And it's cow

Makes charge up and down or diagonal

Instead of straight

Makes cat hit more units

Also makes it for front stag to pull either top or bottom and not mid

If they run stag

[rigid eagle]

Yea, taurex back row is cool, because it gets canceled more rarely + diagonal run

Want to try this

Mite behind Toko is more sketchy

[true ingot]

Not really

Because it is second priority

It uses skill after Ebon Taurex

[rigid eagle]

So if you had this cards on your hand, what team would you've set for defence?

[true ingot]

Already told you

In shrimp place is Ebon

Toko in boar position

Swap boar for mite

[rigid eagle]

Ebony, cat, mite back. Boar toko front?

[true ingot]

Sui top front

Ebony Sui
Cat
Mite Toko

[rigid eagle]

Hmm...will try it out

[true ingot]

Yup

[rigid eagle]

I run personal toys over common ones

[true ingot]

Which is better

[rigid eagle]

They are better in my opinion

[true ingot]

But displayed cp is lower

[rigid eagle]

Like 4st personal is better than common 5st, even though 5st gives more cp

[true ingot]

Ofc

Because it's after def and other calculations

[rigid eagle]

The team you've mentioned actually has 1 healer and I have 3 in 1 team currently

[true ingot]

Yup

Don't need that many healers

I've run no healer teams

I run bunnybot though

So I'd swap sui with my A5 bunnybot depending on matchup

But yours is too low

[rigid eagle]

yea, a3, +100

even thought it has toys

[true ingot]

Or vs A10 Bryde I use A7 Arachnes

[severe star]

Thanks. Got this.

[mellow marsh]

nice to have both of u discussing. @true ingot @rigid eagle

[rigid eagle]

Thoughts on how to beat this?

[true ingot]

Kartiar team?

[true ingot]

This beats both of those teams

But everything A10 except Arachnes A7 so, what do we ACTUALLY have to work with?

[rigid eagle]

Kartiar team, yea. Another team is mine and I've lost using it. Too much healing and not enough damage

[true ingot]

If you're attacking yeah, you lose the dps test, and time limit kills you.

[rigid eagle]

with this 🙂

[true ingot]

Yo, why you not using your cat?

I pretty much always have cat top and taurex behind it

or bottom

[rigid eagle]

idk, i felt that it's not that good to be used

i have it on def now though

so, i don't have arakness

[true ingot]

That was a joke

This could be a standard dps team

[rigid eagle]

So you think that this team can beat Kartiar?

[true ingot]

yeah

[rigid eagle]

Ok, let's try it out, ha-ha

[true ingot]

Also for general purpose

this would be good

I don't have kona on this acc

so swap arachnes for kona

[rigid eagle]

Yea, but between 2 setups, which one to use?

[true ingot]

oh wait

I do have Kona

haha

[rigid eagle]

I have 1 ticket

[true ingot]

I just don't have it leveled cause not enough to awaken it and make it worthwhile

if you are vs stag and hippo team

[rigid eagle]

People don't attack me

If I loose I loose a lot of points, so I might attack him 1nce more and then stop

I don't get defence points

[true ingot]

lolol

nobody has a10 cat in top 10?

everyone is running a10 in top 10 here

[rigid eagle]

I think 3rd guy has a10 cat

[true ingot]

or a9

[rigid eagle]

1st has a7 like me

[true ingot]

all my guildies in front or behind so I don't bother moving up or down

I am Dz and バニー

[rigid eagle]

So this one against Kartiar or the one with Kona?

[true ingot]

Everyone else is guild member, so we don't bother attacking

lol

The puffu one OR swap position put sui in front and swap puffu for mite

[rigid eagle]

In here they attack each other and I think it's good. It's stupid when u can't attack guild mates and top10 are all guildmates.

[true ingot]

well I derank

so I can knock people out

since others have trouble with some of the contenders

This is my friend's team comp

[rigid eagle]

I only fight for 1st place

[true ingot]

who do you think wins?

[rigid eagle]

No

I think it's a loss

[true ingot]

0 deaths

[rigid eagle]

Hmm...

[true ingot]

every single time

it's never even close

[rigid eagle]

Let's go

Bunny what awakening?

[true ingot]

5

[mellow marsh]

waiting for result here. xD

[rigid eagle]

So I lost

[true ingot]

waaaaht?

lemme see results

[rigid eagle]

And to be honest, I knew I would loose

[true ingot]

how your cat die?

[rigid eagle]

8 points is a lot

[true ingot]

and how did taurex charge?

[rigid eagle]

I get 5-6 on victory

It was 3-3 left, but I had cat and he had suriyu. Suriyu deals more damage, so I died

[true ingot]

3-3 which ones?

I'm actually really surprised

[mellow marsh]

this is how I fought this kind of team.
ebon toko suiryu a.lynx hippo

[true ingot]

well if you have an awakened hippo

ofc that's what you do

but his is not

[mellow marsh]

puffu instead?

[true ingot]

that's what I said in beginning

then I thought mite since puffu was pretty low awakening

but probably would've been better

[rigid eagle]

I don't like to artack

[true ingot]

I don't know cow awakening for Kartiar

[rigid eagle]

I love farming points on def

But no one attacks me

So I have to attack

[true ingot]

for NA/EU one of best def is

Shrimp Bryde
Cat
Toko Cow

[rigid eagle]

I'll try with puffu

[true ingot]

and put it in front for cow charge

idk his cow awk

[mellow marsh]

btw, my hippo is a6

[true ingot]

a6 is good enough lol

[true ingot]

mmm

[mellow marsh]

but in term of DPS, a10 suiryu is the best water for me. (my puffu a0 xD)

[true ingot]

his cow is pretty high awaken if it didn't die to all that burst

hmm

Do you have leftover gummies?

I wonder if you swap cow for Disbeleaf

put cat in back

mid

so puffu top with disbeleaf and sui bot with toko

might hit the timer tho

[rigid eagle]

Why? cow is 300, cat 300, kona 300, suriyu 300, mite 300, toko 300, boar 300, disbelief 287 (hp 87)

puffu 200 (hp 0)

u need hippocampus to kill this setup

ofc its high awaken. its top 10 man

its a6

[stable geode]

Bunny is currently timed out so try to pm

[mellow marsh]

same team, this time I lose due to critical RNG. 😄
my ebon died b4 got healed from Toko last minute, then my toko got bullied. GG

currently, my plan is try to stick in Top30.

[true ingot]

whelp gg

[mellow marsh]

we have different meta in our own server. @true ingot @rigid eagle
but it still good to have a discussion to see what it looks like from each other.

like nobody use Bunnybot on mine.

[true ingot]

Well, sui hippo is what we used a few months ago or it might still be used in top 100

but it is not used in top 10 cause it is so easily countered

people do not often use bunnybot

there is one team in top 10 def that uses it

I only switch it in if I see hippo AND stag

meta is still pretty standard as was rotated through JP/KR

[mellow marsh]

On my server.
most of top100 consist of ebon, mite, oro, suiryu, hippo, puffu, stag, shrimp, toko, or a.lynx.
then come after but not often are boar, dino, or kona.
last rarely seen is Penguin.

[true ingot]

that's fairly common

that's pretty much same as every server

ebon will always be a staple

[rigid eagle]

Penguin is crap. Used it. His ult is inconsistent

[true ingot]

so will alynx

I have a10 penguin

I can show you

[mellow marsh]

@true ingot
I would like to ask your opinion about A.Lynx kneading skill's flash debuff.
why it do no DOT? what is the meaning of this debuff w/o DOT to existing?

[true ingot]

it can be funny

[rigid eagle]

Dino is OP if u can save it till he ults

[mellow marsh]

yeah, rarely seen. but I saw one. he bullied my a.lynx. 😄

[true ingot]

why doesn't it do a DOT? flash just increases damage taken from light

and maybe dmg in general lemme see

[rigid eagle]

only 1 guy from top10 uses bunnybot on my server. he is ranked 3rd. a8 bunny. i kill it with suriyu

[mellow marsh]

It doesn't, we have tested.

[rigid eagle]

if it was 100% - it would've been imba

[true ingot]

nah it is just a debuff

[rigid eagle]

like crab'o'lantern

[true ingot]

where it takes more dmg from that element

[rigid eagle]

crab is OP

[true ingot]

it doesn't do a DoT but its attack hits multiple times

if you are referring to alynx

same as hippo, its attack hits multiple times

DoT is a debuff that literally deals Damage over Time

[mellow marsh]

but Sparkee Zip zap's flash do DOT.

a.lynx's flash debuff doesn't increases damage taken from light as well.

so I was wondering what this a.lynx flash do? seem like it does nothing.

[true ingot]

That's because that's what the skill says it does

[mellow marsh]

but it called the same 'Flash'

that why I confused and curious.

[true ingot]

if you are talking about

in open world

cat does not cause flash

it deals bonus damage to flashed units

[mellow marsh]

yeah, I knew that

[true ingot]

so in addition to the 100% bonus

it deals an extra ...

just like dino deals extra damage to corrupted units

[mellow marsh]

I compare Sparkee's flash vs A.Lynx's flash

[true ingot]

ALynx does not cause flash

[mellow marsh]

flash in battle skill.

[true ingot]

oh in battle you mean

[mellow marsh]

yes

[true ingot]

that is just a debuff

that increases damage taken from light sources

[mellow marsh]

yeah, this comparation.

[mellow marsh]

I tested it, it didn't

[true ingot]

That's literally what flash debuff does

sparky in FA only gets additional attacks

sparky in regular

causes DoT

sui in FA causes DoT

[true ingot]

That is in field

[mellow marsh]

flash which deal DOT

yes, same called 'Flash', right?

[true ingot]

Yes, this is flash that ALSO deals a dot.

Flash itself just increases damage taken by light.

so you use sparky when you use light weapons

if it has flash on it in field and your cat attacks during the 8 second debuff

it deals double dmg

but that is in field only

not in FA

Sui causes a frostbite that ALSO does a DoT in FA

[mellow marsh]

so what does flash debuff do again?

[true ingot]

increases dmg from light sources

corruption increases dmg from dark sources

frostbite increases dmg from water sources

etc

[mellow marsh]

look like it doesn't increase, at least I have tested on F.Adventure.

can u test it?

[true ingot]

it works for me

[mellow marsh]

really?

[true ingot]

but it is only from things that do that type of dmg

yes

it is not all sources of dmg

[mellow marsh]

a.lynx himself.

[true ingot]

only that particular element

[mellow marsh]

a.lynx himself do light dmg, right?

even his basic attack

[true ingot]

so in familiar adventure, after lynx uses its skill, its normal attacks do more dmg

[mellow marsh]

that what I tested.

and I told u that it didn't increase.

[true ingot]

did they have

the debuff icon?

[mellow marsh]

they have

but the output look the same

[true ingot]

hmm

If that is not the case

then you only get multiplier if you have that specific description

so Hippo skill with frostbite

Cat in field but not adventure or arena

the golem

has 30% def buff

[mellow marsh]

I try another

@true ingot

[mellow marsh]

LMAO

[true ingot]

it's that then

[mellow marsh]

so we should follow every word in description. even it is the same typo, like 'Flash'.

😄

there is no meaning for this a.lynx flash to existing currently. (or is there a fam that its battle skill do more dmg to flashed enemies in the future?)

[true ingot]

I can't think of any off the top of my head.

[mellow marsh]

I also knew that this a.lynx flash does no DOT on every server. (JP/KR/TW)

still curious why. LMAO

[true ingot]

It doesn't

it only does if the description says so

[mellow marsh]

remove flash. JK

[true ingot]

well

[true ingot]

It is useful for field

[mellow marsh]

remove flash from a.lynx kneading skill.

[true ingot]

it makes it extra flashy tho

[rigid eagle]

i've beat this guy. he lost toko and pretty much the whole team died. it is very risky to place toko front row

[mellow marsh]

yes, risk that sometime we need to take.

btw, I try to place toko in front of their ebon. (to push my toko back)

[rigid eagle]

also risky if his ebon is back row

because it can cancel toko's heal

[mellow marsh]

avoid that if we can

[proud shore]

Anyone has a description of the upcoming free episode familiar? The light def shield looking familiar.

[fierce kestrel]

Will the meta ever change from Toko, Shrimpaler, Soar Boar?

[mellow marsh]

Yes, when ppl have better fams.

[fierce kestrel]

But top 100 have better familiars, still same lineups

[mellow marsh]

not mine.

Toko still there, shrimp some, but less than 10 boars on my top100.

[fierce kestrel]

I'm stuck unless I awaken too. All +300.

[mellow marsh]

If u can't beat them, join them. just attack 3 times a week then defense it all.

[fierce kestrel]

I thought of that too late but currently trying to +300 my Shrimpaler and Taurex. Might take a few months. 😆

[mellow marsh]

focus on ebon boar and toko first, jellied your shrimp doesn't increase its healing amount.

[fierce kestrel]

I will shift to Taurex then. I have +300 Boar and Toko, but my Toko only A8, so I lose to heal CD

[mellow marsh]

try to get its toys.

[fierce kestrel]

I have a +300 spare Boar for maxing the 1 to 3 star. Should I use that now on Ebon?

[mellow marsh]

450k gold each for some stat and cp, decide it yourself.

[patent aspen]

can someone explain why my suiryu's 5s specific toy for suiryu is weaker than a 5s generic toy? https://youtu.be/W6VB98-r9oU

in general the specific toys should deal more damage than a generic toys am i right?