💬gameplay-discussion

[frozen chasm]

and just made that shit up

[west perch]

be thankful, that's -13 wolfsegg used

[marble gust]

wow red striker healer is running out of kits

😔

[feral jetty]

"what? cost down? we can't give that to a permanent unit, that'd be too strong!"

kokona watching in the distance

[worldly sun]

Ui…

[pallid inlet]

We really forgetting ui now?

[feral jetty]

okay you know what i fucking meant

come on

i meant the imari/kokona type of cost down

[marble gust]

when ur comrades has cost down so you lowkey get forgotten as a 2 cost red striker healer

[feral jetty]

because she's the same type of 2 cost striker healer as them

[worldly sun]

Sshiroko…

[feral jetty]

i don't need to specify everything here

ffs

they're all 2 cost striker healers that all have repeatedly usable cost down on the whole party except for takane

do i need to spell that whole thing out every fucking time

you know what i meant

[worldly sun]

2 cost healer with cost?
Dmichiru…

[feral jetty]

ha

[marble gust]

you do know how butthurt these people get

[feral jetty]

i accounted for that one

[west perch]

and they're all designed for hiero

[marble gust]

so

[quiet raft]

Honestly, reading Binah seems like a simple boss. Just that it punches like hell

[feral jetty]

i said repeatedly usable cost down

not single use

and also striker

[pallid inlet]

I think we do

[west perch]

He's meant to be simple. That's why a properly hard one is scary.

[quiet raft]

It's not like Hod who wants to get CC'd, or Chokmah who needs DoT to function, or Geburah who's made for Satsuki... hmmm...

[pallid inlet]

Fuck satsuki

[quiet raft]

well, the old one used to grant you -50 acc

[worldly sun]

Binahs only “mechanic” is high def

And that you want to play around groggy bar to cancel stronger attacks

[marble gust]

its our first boss man

imagine making binah have cringe mechanics

when we had shiroko dps

serika

[pallid inlet]

Insane and torment binah

[feral jetty]

"what? repeatedly usable cost down on the full team on a 2 cost striker healer? we can't give that to a permanent unit, that'd be too strong!"

[worldly sun]

There’s a reason the most recent boss Yesod has more mechanic than the first boss binah

[feral jetty]

do you see how much worse the flow is on that

it doesn't flow at all

i shouldn't need to have to spell that whole thing out

it ruins it

[pallid inlet]

People instantly wiping on yesod because they destroyed 2 pillars with aoe

[quiet raft]

I didn't know till now, I joined 2025 dec

[worldly sun]

Apparently they removed the wipe it’s just stun now

[marble gust]

nexon gave the 2 striker healers cost down so yall jumped on takane

[worldly sun]

Still tho

[marble gust]

☹️

[woven sigil]

JP casuals, who can't read, complain in twitter that hardcore yesod wiped their team

[pallid inlet]

Cost regen blocking

[worldly sun]

Imari’s kit is uninspired anyway

[feral jetty]

imari is like

[worldly sun]

They just copy pasted Kok

[pallid inlet]

That I can agree

[feral jetty]

they didn't know how to make a healer stronger than kokona

[woven sigil]

nah

[feral jetty]

so they just copied her

[gritty laurel]

yesod?

[worldly sun]

And changed the armour colour and gave her a meaningful ue40

[woven sigil]

Overheal is broken af + controllable cost down

[pallid inlet]

Just remove the crit requirement on basic and made it every 30 seconds

[gritty laurel]

oh shit is this another prophet thats released in jp

[worldly sun]

Overheal rarely comes up

[woven sigil]

Nerf for FRR lol

[feral jetty]

yeah, they copied her

[pallid inlet]

What

[frozen chasm]

No I mean they dont have any other kit for takane so just just slapped healing on her

[woven sigil]

Kokona spams basic on set like every 15-20 seconds

[feral jetty]

big hitcount, more crits, constant basic procs

[pallid inlet]

That’s because kuroko

[woven sigil]

exactly

[odd geyser]

[pallid inlet]

What if you don’t use kuroko

[teal nova]

[woven sigil]

Then you simply don't clear FRR

[pallid inlet]

You know only 1 frr actively needs kuroko

[feral jetty]

i feel like 15-20 seconds isn't even true

it looks like it's proccing every 10 seconds in the video i'm watching

[pallid inlet]

Blue chokmah has other blue dps that work

Or uneru because why not

[woven sigil]

Also luna binah clears where mika stacks kokona's basic

[feral jetty]

yeah

imari can survive in that luna binah team iirc

but kokona is better

[pallid inlet]

With cover and overheal

[feral jetty]

because maki and mika are constantly proccing basic

maki hitcount is nuts

[woven sigil]

Poor Takane

[pallid inlet]

Once binah activates missiles the second time imari is dead isn’t she

[odd geyser]

I upscored with 3* kok somebody

[feral jetty]

oh sick

UE50 her anyway

she deserves it

[proven dove]

Surely she'll have new content for her kit, same for sseia.

[amber root]

[pallid inlet]

[odd geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1475603629208502495/image.png?ex=699e1678&is=699cc4f8&hm=0c58f54d47d71bd8795b8d6dc569746d0220c29302d0561bc21496d2c47f2bdb&

[pallid inlet]

Why new content

[frozen chasm]

Idk man

[feral jetty]

newgens underestimate kokona too much

[proven dove]

I gave my kokona ue30 this geburah ta, to one tap heater x_x

[frozen chasm]

I've never seen any content that crit res down was impactful

[pallid inlet]

Maybe hod idk

But I gave up before that happened

[proven dove]

Yesod next month :3

[odd geyser]

Used to help in hod

[woven sigil]

Hod fixed

[pallid inlet]

Nah that’s lunatic

Doesn’t count

[woven sigil]

Lunatic is free with swak farmable

[feral jetty]

goz- oh wait

[marble gust]

yes

[feral jetty]

huh isn't that funny, healing debuffed and deals red damage

[pallid inlet]

Swakamo isn’t farmable on global yet

But sure

[feral jetty]

it's a good thing hod isn't rerunning before that then

[woven sigil]

Peroro and wakaboat are the only lunas that I can't clear ATP

[pallid inlet]

Maybe ue40/50 swakamo by next hod rerun

[feral jetty]

are you expecting them to give us a global exclusive hod rerun this early

[feral jetty]

anyways as i was saying, there's a big reason why they chose to copy kokona's kit specifically for imari

[proven dove]

Surely you'll be able to clear peroro in rerun, with kei :p

[woven sigil]

Should be

[marble gust]

i only lacked imari

[woven sigil]

I just don't have some units for both wakaboat and peroro

[odd geyser]

All luna f2p

[pure vessel]

kokoNUT

[odd geyser]

[pallid inlet]

Only lunatic I could maybe do is binah

[pure vessel]

tbh take away mari's overheal and kok and imari are basically perfect sidegrades

kok still gets brought out if imari has bad armor

[proven dove]

Nutsuki niya for me x_x and seia

[sly ice]

The funny worm

[pure vessel]

or if it's a hitcount raid

because kok basic scales off aspd/crittable hitcount of the team

while mari is static

[frozen chasm]

man

[sly ice]

Men

[frozen chasm]

I want an actual AA raid

[pure vessel]

young man

[woven sigil]

I'm dry to pull for limited archive

[sly ice]

What do you mean?

[frozen chasm]

like you use 3 AA dps and an aoe AA buffer

[pure vessel]

theres no need to feel down

[sly ice]

Ohhh

[pure vessel]

I said young man

[feral jetty]

they should give kokona bond gear that lets her heal torment hiero lantern with basic+ex

[sly ice]

Thats called FRR

[pallid inlet]

Fury of set

[feral jetty]

msuzumi and yesod was such bait oh my god

[pallid inlet]

But set is a fraud

[feral jetty]

i see msuzumi's kit and think "omg finally AA raid"

WRONG

you buff the drones

[pallid inlet]

Drone aa raid

[sly ice]

Fury of Set (red) vs Band Geeks

[proven dove]

I'll be saving for seia, but I'll keep its rerun in mind, so I aim for nymutsuki & bneru there (and maybe makoto if she's added there by then)

[sly ice]

And its the spongebob sweet victory scene

[pure vessel]

GIVE ME HARDER LUNATICS

[pallid inlet]

Wakaboat or set is the closest we have to an aa raid

[pure vessel]

I wanted my binah to be

YUGE

HARD

[frail glen]

guys

[feral jetty]

urban hiero used to be an AA raid

[copper crescent]

Hi

[feral jetty]

give me my snonomi meta back

[marble gust]

try binah lun without uneru

[pallid inlet]

Yeah

[frail glen]

is all my investments so far

basically not correct

[pure vessel]

someone already did festless binah lun

[feral jetty]

hey funny thing about that

[cyan ether]

thats easy as well

[pallid inlet]

What investments

[pure vessel]

it was gold

[copper crescent]

For what

[feral jetty]

someone did limitedless luna binah

[marble gust]

i mean you

[feral jetty]

not just festless iirc

[marble gust]

yall call raids as easy

[little timber]

You want even more difficult than lunatic?
adds 10k+ evasion on bosses

[marble gust]

try handicapping

and not following hw

[frail glen]

people told me that I should have taken the L

instead of forcing a clear

I think they might be right

[copper crescent]

Yes

[pallid inlet]

Gaybruh insane?

[frail glen]

yep

[marble gust]

deal with it

[copper crescent]

I agree

[pallid inlet]

What did you invest in

[frail glen]

don't laugh

because they already did once

so ummm

[proven dove]

Did you clear ?

[frail glen]

My s kanna wasn't living on insane, instead of upgrading the boots, I UE40 her...

It was very silly

[frail glen]

yes

[pure vessel]

I want the 9 team average experience

[pallid inlet]

Shoes tier?

[pure vessel]

give me day 1 torment binah

[frail glen]

t222

I forgot to upgrade her equip

I thought I had t9 her already

[pallid inlet]

😟

[pure vessel]

not this 2 panable luna on day 1

[copper crescent]

Bro we had 2x normals

[frail glen]

but in reality I didn't

[copper crescent]

The past week

[sly ice]

I UE40’d her for debuff retention we are not the same

[frail glen]

I was doing 50/50 split on events and normals

[amber root]

[frail glen]

also just last week

I accidently clicked max when buying t2 bp

[copper crescent]

Ideally u go full normals

[pallid inlet]

I only did normals one 2x normals was on

[frail glen]

now I have 1.5k blue prints

and no ep

[pallid inlet]

Skipped the event afterwards

[copper crescent]

Wtf

[proven dove]

Then all good :3 it'll be pee-invest for torment-luna geburah eventually.

I plan to spend as much resources as possible for yesod luna even though I'm clearing tor, that way I'll be almost ready for luna :3

[copper crescent]

Oh 1.5k

That's better

[frail glen]

still...

now I am one month behind on some of my fest elephs purcahses

because I accidentally clicked max

[marble gust]

u barely spent shit man

[pallid inlet]

Not the end of the world

[marble gust]

i did 700mil credits on peroro 6k eligma

[copper crescent]

Yeah you'll recover

[marble gust]

still failed

[copper crescent]

Damn

[frail glen]

thx arch, that made me feel better

[amber root]

ahh ull need them eventually

[pallid inlet]

If it’s only skanna ue40 then not the end of the world

[frail glen]

also i am sorry for your loss

[marble gust]

and skanna ue isnt even bad

[pallid inlet]

I’ve spent ligma on worse ways

[frozen chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/am-ia-joke-to-you-meme-original-video-am-ia-joke-joke-to-you-gif-27389464

mika:

[sly ice]

Simply pull more for the elephs bro

[amber root]

after farming high tier gears for awhile ull be lacking the low tiers eventually

[pallid inlet]

I’m lacking t2-4 watches

[copper crescent]

Yeah farming low tier gears suck

[frail glen]

I mean i guess I never needed to farm t2 gears again

[copper crescent]

Yeah

[feral jetty]

farming low tier gears suck

[marble gust]

tf wheres ur t2 selectors

[feral jetty]

give me those trip trap train selectors back

[frail glen]

but 30k ep though
results from my welfare farm for atsuko just gone

[proven dove]

I am always lacking in the highest and lower tier gears lool. So I farm more the highest ones x_x

[marble gust]

i deliberately not farm t2 to spend my what 2k? t2 selectors

[copper crescent]

Wtf

[amber root]

somehow i ran out

[copper crescent]

Makes sense

[feral jetty]

i missed the rerun on that so i missed out on those...

[copper crescent]

Dajin ran out too

[feral jetty]

now i'm poor...

[pure vessel]

peroro was definitely one of the harder ones

I liked peroro

[copper crescent]

Peroro is like hardest 3

[marble gust]

internet explorer ahh

[copper crescent]

If not hardest

[frail glen]

how is the jump between tor peroro and luna peroro so high

like

[feral jetty]

peroro would've still been a good raid if it weren't for bhoshi

[quiet raft]

ugh...

[frail glen]

where did they screw up when tuning peroro

[marble gust]

"screw up"

[copper crescent]

Peroro was fine

[feral jetty]

hey funny thing about a certain unit that was released after torment but before luna peroro

[marble gust]

average gpd

[copper crescent]

Binah was the screw up

[quiet raft]

now that I think about maint, I cannot keep binge watching Eden Treaty

[marble gust]

boss too easy? nexon screwed up
boss too hard? nexon screwed up

[quiet raft]

[copper crescent]

Binah should've been an ass whooping experience

[feral jetty]

nexon didn't screw up making peroro hard

nexon screwed up making bhoshi

[proven dove]

That doesn't have a real connection to your geb insane clear.

It hurts but this'll make you extra careful not to missclick next time.

[pure vessel]

Im always fine on 2~5 because events give you a ton of low tier blueprints and selectors

6~7 is my danger zone

[marble gust]

bhosh doesn't even do as much as shes supposed to on peroro lun

cus of the mechanics

[copper crescent]

Well we have Kei now

[quiet raft]

me when I have no scrunchies

[marble gust]

which is what's supposed to happen

[feral jetty]

she's still doing way more than any dps should be doing

[marble gust]

no one is tanking 3 lazers

[copper crescent]

Oh

[marble gust]

or ako kisaki maybe

[feral jetty]

she's not a fair unit

ako in 2026? nah it's the snagi era now

hello chat #1 snagi fan here

[marble gust]

for the heal

[quiet raft]

you mean every boss is now tuned on lun?

[marble gust]

no one is surviving 3 peroro lazers

[frail glen]

annnd I just realized I missed a headpat because I forgor to check cafe 1 hour ago

[copper crescent]

No

[frail glen]

[copper crescent]

Every boss up to peroro is tuned on lun

[marble gust]

or just imari it (tm

[quiet raft]

3?

[feral jetty]

anyways about what you were saying earlier

about handicapping yourself to make luna binah hard

i don't think that's a good way to think about it

[copper crescent]

Over the course of the fight

[feral jetty]

it's their fault for messing up and making it so easy in the first place

i shouldn't have to handicap myself for the hardest difficulty to be hard

[copper crescent]

Yeah handicapping doesn't feel organic

[proven dove]

I missed two headpats today (kisaki and rio) I didn't notice them because of migraine and being sensitive to light at that moment.

[amber root]

its the first time jp got a 1st debut difficulty plat cutoff right?

[odd geyser]

if binah was hard, idk how we'd deal with the laser lingering until groggy or phase change

[cyan ether]

did you see the KR note or whatever, they said it was meant to be like this i think

[copper crescent]

Oh wow

[frail glen]

I am sorry to hear that, I hope you get better soon

[marble gust]

its "easy" cus the units are much more accessible

geburah lun is also 2pan

[feral jetty]

yeah but that's stupid

it's the hardest difficulty

[marble gust]

but fuck off with the limited units

[feral jetty]

we're gonna be dealing with this for the next few years

[cyan ether]

ye

triple lunatic for binah GA

[feral jetty]

the least they can do is make it interesting for those years that it's there with us

[odd geyser]

its not just that, there are also a ton of support options that work

[frail glen]

which color in theory would be the hardest for Binah?
Blue?

[ripe mason]

Green

[proven dove]

Geburah luna teams without imari or sfubuki/cmaki are tedious to use.

[copper crescent]

Now nobody is gonna joke on binah

[feral jetty]

blue being hard? in my AAris era?

[odd geyser]

[feral jetty]

i don't believe it

[amber root]

ironically maybe yellow still

[copper crescent]

Isn't purple harder

[feral jetty]

like what the fuck???

[marble gust]

with the yesod units i doubt

[amber root]

maybe

[feral jetty]

why is it a 2 minute clear on release

what the hell

[amber root]

idk bout smika

[odd geyser]

[copper crescent]

Idk how smika fares

[untold tusk]

@odd geyser Who do I bring as team composition for tomorrow jp jfd I know to bring BEimi and SHoshino though which students to add in the other slots?
I just random throw students on the team or?

[feral jetty]

smika probably can't tank which'll make things harder

[marble gust]

? did u not see her last GA

[odd geyser]

I haven't even looked at the rules yet

[copper crescent]

I mean her living

[feral jetty]

at the very least she should survive if she has an actual tank with her

[proven dove]

It's a kaiju team though :p I heard ue60 dps with high bond needed for it

[feral jetty]

but you probably can't do the yellow shenanigans

where you go tankless

[feral jetty]

yeah but that's not an excuse

kaiju teams aren't doing 2 minute clears on release on any other raid

[copper crescent]

Those are speedrun times

I remember doing 2 mins ins binah long ago

So comparing that with 2 mins luna binah feels so weird

[pure vessel]

we've had 3 runs of geb lun and you need a very specific, hyper-specialized team to get the 2pan

[last ermine]

Wait there’s maintenance rn

What’s the maintenance for

[feral jetty]

look at the topscores on other raids,
14 minute rank 1 on luna peroro
11 minute rank 1 on luna hovercraft
8 minute rank 1 on luna hod
11 minute rank 1 on luna goz

[frail glen]

story part 2, jfd, new banner

[feral jetty]

compare these kaiju times with how stupidly fast luna binah is ON RELEASE

[pure vessel]

binah can be 2pan'd with a ton of leeway with just generalist buffers

[copper crescent]

2 minutes rank 1 on luna binah

[pure vessel]

and it's the first run

[teal nova]

read the patch note sensei

[proven dove]

I agree with you. I think them making binah that way is either one of 2 cases:

-Either they couldn't prepare other raids for their release, so they released an undertuned binah.

-Or they thought they release it on the easy side to give more a torment feeling in lunatic. And that way most upcoming luna, even though maybe difficult they'll be two pannable.

[odd geyser]

def down, buffers, cost gen

[marble gust]

its been a year since luna debut

if binah lun is harder than lun release then

[copper crescent]

Ig they consider tor binah a failure or smth

Tor binah was goated

[half heath]

whats the use of CSena besides kurokage

[marble gust]

tor binah is cus we didn't have shit

[pure vessel]

the first run of each boss should be scaled for the tools we have at that point in time

[proven dove]

I think they think they're adapting to the audience, that it's not as tryhard as the past maybe.

[copper crescent]

Makes sense

[pure vessel]

tor binah was after mika debut and it was scaled accordingly

[marble gust]

its cus of the shitty lun release schedule too ngl

[amber root]

wait it doesnt make much sense to undertune that hard on purpose

[copper crescent]

Yes

[amber root]

wats the purpose of having the other lower difficulties then?

[feral jetty]

if something is released at a time that we have a certain amount of tools, then it should be balanced around us having those tools

[marble gust]

well we still got people hardstuck hardcore

[copper crescent]

Stuck on hardcore in 2026

[amber root]

ye thats where the casuals reside

[feral jetty]

wait that's so funny

they were probably thinking of like bhoshino with that question

[amber root]

they dont think about the hardest difficulty available

[feral jetty]

i pulled out the reisa answer

[marble gust]

so pro

[copper crescent]

Pro

[feral jetty]

i didn't think of bhoshi until after i typed that out

[marble gust]

damn u fuken gapped them

i kneel

[copper crescent]

Gpd fossil knowledge

[novel timber]

i heard luna binah is like tormnt diff

[copper crescent]

Yes

[marble gust]

maybe

[copper crescent]

Easier tbh

[marble gust]

if ur fossil

tf easier

[copper crescent]

I mean

[odd geyser]

me comfy clear luna binah ez 2pan

[copper crescent]

Easier than when ppl did tors after it got easier

I think like pre kisaki binah

[odd geyser]

salty lurks in this chat just to bully react me

[astral fern]

Biggest kaiju known to BA historian

[untold tusk]

@odd geyser I hear that Binah lunatic clear is gold so did you get platinum?

[odd geyser]

im safe plat now

[copper crescent]

Tbh maybe they did binah like that for the memes

[pure vessel]

luna binah is objectively easier with today's toolkit than tor binah was with 2023's toolkit

like

[teal nova]

:binahclown:

[pure vessel]

way easier

[copper crescent]

Like, normal diff plat cutoff and then right next raid jumps to luna diff plat cutoff

[cyan ether]

oh i didnt read it said tank

[proven dove]

If there's an issue with it we'll know with its rerun :3

[pure vessel]

I'd say tor binah with mid 2024 toolkit was harder than lunatic binah now

we still needed to pull out sayane back then

[copper crescent]

Yeah

[marble gust]

i mean kinda no shit

[quiet raft]

okay, that explains it, I thought you meant that Peroro literally fired 3 lasers at the same time from how you phrased it

[copper crescent]

Ah

No that's crazy

[pure vessel]

new difficulty peroro move leak

[marble gust]

make that a mechanics for phantasm diff

yea

[pure vessel]

laser rave show

[quiet raft]

[marble gust]

i rly hope theres a lun where the hp is lower than tor

compensated by stupid mechanics changes

[copper crescent]

If there's one it'd be binah

[marble gust]

like very stupid ones

[copper crescent]

Hmm

[marble gust]

complete opposite of that would be wakaboat

[copper crescent]

Chesed is probably the other candidate

[marble gust]

stupid hp bloat

[pure vessel]

lower hp but gain immunity to def down

[quiet raft]

sub skill: reduces all dmg from ex skills when Kisaki is on the team

[marble gust]

chesed never opens its core during groggy

[copper crescent]

Well ig all the remaining lunas can have less hp than tor if they rly made the mechanics harder

[marble gust]

easy 10mil hp lun chesed

[pure vessel]

counterpoint

[marble gust]

did you just make this wtf

[copper crescent]

Chesed groggy only stops him from spawning mobs

[feral jetty]

yeah

[pure vessel]

with bhimari coming with dmg taken debuff now

you can brute force core

[feral jetty]

solution: run sseia instead

[copper crescent]

Or make chesed mobs insanely strong

Like 10x as strong

[odd geyser]

[quiet raft]

Still Sshanako will clap

[feral jetty]

hanako (swimsuit (swimsuit))

[copper crescent]

Super strong chesed mobs imo would make chesed interesting

[feral jetty]

it'd basically force you to run makoto

so i don't like it :(

[copper crescent]

Oh :(

Like imagine makoto leaves them with half hp after ex

[cyan ether]

running geb team with makoto

[untold tusk]

Who is good for Chesed enemies section if no cost halving what are the options?
Momoi?
SYukari?

[copper crescent]

Nonomi too

SHasumi

[quiet raft]

That would probably make the battle feel worse tbh

[copper crescent]

Makoto

[untold tusk]

Nonomi without cost halving works?

[copper crescent]

Yes

[cyan ether]

ofc

[teal nova]

special has no cost down

[untold tusk]

I am not certain how to Chesed I only know is a 2pan

[feral jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-lucilfer-chrollo-lucilfer-1999-hxh-gif-16928957668416418915

[copper crescent]

Yeah it might just end up with u waiting for self destruct now that I think about it

Chesed alr feels so ass

[quiet raft]

Already chesed forced me to run hardcore

instead of Extreme as I usually did

[median lotus]

Whatcha guys talking about

[copper crescent]

Potential luna chesed

[median lotus]

Ah I see

[quiet raft]

Truth I could have done Chesed extreme solely with S.Hanako and better spraying

[feral jetty]

that's when you pull out the kisaki on nonomi tech

[untold tusk]

Does my roster have easy Chesed Insane clear?

[copper crescent]

I was just saying making mobs harder would change comps up a bit

[median lotus]

Yeah

[teal nova]

imagine lun mob phase cant be wanpanned

[copper crescent]

Similar to hod phase 1

[median lotus]

It has to be 2+ panned

[feral jetty]

nonomi is a very special chesed unit in that she actually does damage

[odd geyser]

2pan yes

[copper crescent]

You'd need an actual team for phase 1 and another team for groggy setup

[untold tusk]

2pan Insane clear is gold?

[copper crescent]

Makes it more restrictive to how many teams u can run for core

[quiet raft]

3 pan lun just to clear mobs

[median lotus]

Makoto the goat

[teal nova]

so you gotta do from the start again

[copper crescent]

Yeah I remember her being used for peroro yellow

[odd geyser]

[pure vessel]

I refuse to 1pan chesed

unless it's like

[ripe mason]

smika 1 pan was something alright

[pure vessel]

ridiculously easy 1core

[copper crescent]

Smika 1pan was so fast

[teal nova]

but the reset was painful

[feral jetty]

it's a good thing she got laser eye surgery before going to the beach

[copper crescent]

Yes

[pure vessel]

smika busting balls

binahchesed

[teal nova]

is tiph ball shaped

[copper crescent]

Kinda

[teal nova]

perpect

[untold tusk]

Tiphareth is heart

[copper crescent]

Yes

[marble gust]

human heart shaped

[feral jetty]

looks ball shaped enough to me

[untold tusk]

Is heart shaped
Chesed is ball shaped Decagrammaton

Well is Momoi for p2 Chesed and Nonomi for p1 then or?

[teal nova]

used in both phase

[untold tusk]

How am I to do with my roster then?
I do not have enough yellow aoe for both phases

[teal nova]

then shanako it

[untold tusk]

I borrow SHanako?

[copper crescent]

Do you have mika

[untold tusk]

I do not have Mika, UNeru or SHiyori

[copper crescent]

Nvm you'd just use momoi and nonomi for ins, they can do ins

[untold tusk]

For which phase I bring Momoi and Nonomi?

[copper crescent]

Phase 1

And tsubaki for tank

[untold tusk]

What about p2 are there not enemies there as well?

[copper crescent]

Momoi and nonomi will clear 3.9 waves in phase 2 as well

You'd clear 3 waves and leave 3 alive from 4th wave and then forfeit so you can use your team 2 with mika borrow

[teal nova]

enemies are everywhere
chesed is mass production automaton

[untold tusk]

What if is 2 shot core then Mika is not going to be enough without aoe

[copper crescent]

Mika will be enough if you groggy setup

If u leave 3 alive, second team will kill 3 by autoattack

[untold tusk]

How to groggy Chesed?

[copper crescent]

And you'll have enough time to buff mika and finish ins

[untold tusk]

I have to taunt for groggy?

[frail glen]

you defeat those tiny minions to build up groggy bar

[copper crescent]

If you clear 4 complete waves in p2, chesed will groggy

[frail glen]

yeah, tell chesed that it and binah can make a great pair

[copper crescent]

Every enemy killed in phase 2 increases chesed groggy

[untold tusk]

I wonder if UNeru and or SHiyori one shot the core after groggy

[frail glen]

uneru timing might be hard

since her ex animations takes forever

[untold tusk]

I will only borrow Mika as yellow st option after trial and erroring every other option

[copper crescent]

No but they can finish core in one groggy

So any of the 3 will work

[untold tusk]

Is good to know well is not as if Chesed will return so soon
Is at least 2 more months before returning

[copper crescent]

Yes

[untold tusk]

What is the investment for Nonomi and Momoi for the enemies section?
Do they require UE40 and or bg?

[pure vessel]

pre bg nonomi and momoi works but nonomi wants her bg for consistency

the additional acc helps a lot

[tired wyvern]

I UE40 Nonomi to works Yellow Tor

[untold tusk]

What is Nonomi accuracy when fighting Chesed enemies is 70%?

[pure vessel]

p sure even ue30 works fine tbh

not sure about 4 star

[untold tusk]

Is to eligma Nonomi UE30 or is she farmable?

[tired wyvern]

Exp Permit

that's what i did

[teal nova]

ligma her||?||

[untold tusk]

Expert permit is 30 x 5 per month?

[pure vessel]

30 elephs per month

so 4 months to go from 4 star to ue30

if you're a fossil you got to do the nonomi event task twice and got her to ue30 for basically free

but you already missed out on that one

[untold tusk]

4 months feels long time though guess I start buying when level 90

I am level 85 so perhaps in 3 months will be level 90

[pure vessel]

expert permit farm in general is a long term investment

I've gotten a fair number of limited units to ue30 for free from it over ~3 years of playtime

[untold tusk]

I only started buying SHiyori elephs from expert permit shop for easier UE60

[pure vessel]

yeah you should usually consider it more of a discount for units you're eventually gonna eligma up

[tired wyvern]

i finally UE40 Track Yuuka since 3 April 2024 thanks to Exp Permit

anyone buying Fest Exp Perm Monthly ?

[untold tusk]

At least Momoi is farmable from TA coins shop

[teal nova]

that's like the norm isnt it

[marble gust]

hi

[marble gust]

apparently no

[tired wyvern]

i only do another limit, should i do for Fest instead ?

[marble gust]

some people dont cus it costs more than limiteds

id get banned if i say my opinion

[stable tulip]

that's what I do tbh, but only for the dps fests + shoshi

[tired wyvern]

the differ 1.2k in total

[pastel mortar]

Say it please

[marble gust]

me when i buy nodoka elephs cus it costs less than fes

[stable tulip]

snagi can get the discount after smika

[marble gust]

😔

[teal nova]

shocking

[lilac solar]

so true

UE60 momoi is free

[untold tusk]

UE60 is perhaps a bit excessive though since is free I get there eventually

[stable tulip]

I budget 1 welfare per month mixed with the fest so I can get them to 3*

[lilac solar]

10% piercing buff is nice to have tbh

[teal nova]

some can stay at 3* so i dont really bother

[untold tusk]

10% piercing at UE40 I thought that?

[stable tulip]

I mean...I did sshizuko this time so I could get her to 2*

[livid marsh]

Which better healing ue50 hanako or reisa magical?

[lilac solar]

UE40 buffs enhanced skill

[untold tusk]

What was Momoi passive skill again I have to read that

[marble gust]

hanako is better burst heal

but mreisa by a ton if you need aoe

[teal nova]

get her to ue40

[stable tulip]

...
should I actually?

[marble gust]

no

[stable tulip]

didn't think so but...

[lilac solar]

she sees some use I think so it's not a terrible option

raise units when you need them

[marble gust]

used cus shes farmable

[untold tusk]

Momoi passive+ boosts critical rate?
Is that useful at all?

[marble gust]

if you didn't farm her just let it go

[stable tulip]

I'll at least stick it out till 3* I guess, unless fubuki needs it more

[pallid inlet]

Not very impactful

[glacial venture]

What's stopping me from farming elephs for years to get limited students

[stable tulip]

simple, that doesn't make nexon money

[marble gust]

theres some people here and there asking here/gph why couldnt they claim the limiteds they farmed

every week or so

[pallid inlet]

Read what you just quoted

[pure vessel]

you should try

[willow tapir]

I thought you can still get limited characters from shop

[marble gust]

wait lol is that a genuine question

[calm flicker]

Guys, why I cant exchange for Mika when I have 120 Mika elephs?

[glacial venture]

So you can't convert 120 elephs of a limited student to the actual student

[calm flicker]

[marble gust]

i thought they were quoting as a joke

bruh

[pure vessel]

what's stopping me from just jumping to mars? is nasa stupid?

[stable tulip]

really?

[polar orbit]

yes

[marble gust]

just get better legs

[glacial venture]

https://tenor.com/view/incorrect-incorrect-hypothesis-agnes-agnes-tachyon-umamusume-gif-8499927854571996849

[pure vessel]

leg mk2

[stable tulip]

in case you're serious, no you can't. there's a big warning at the shop screen in the expert shop that it doesn't unlock units

[lilac solar]

honse mentioned

[pallid inlet]

🐴

[lilac solar]

also when did bagen migrate over here

[ashen goblet]

Theres a small text when about to buy telling you that you cant. You can however buy before having the student and pull them later

[pure vessel]

maint

[glacial venture]

I never got this text btw

[willow tapir]

Yes, I'm serious. I haven't checked the shop yet and just doing daily. You have to be a genius in this discord huh

[stable tulip]

it's at the bottom of every purchase screen for expert shop

[shell tree]

But also… “limited” and “free” shouldn’t be in the same sentence. This should be intuitive

[ashen goblet]

You may need glasses

[pallid inlet]

Open your eyes

[pure vessel]

gpd iq follows a sinusoidal pattern where it dips by 50 points every time we're raidless or have maint

[marble gust]

@stable tulip wow genius

i kneel

[stable tulip]

I have aquired sentience, what an achievement

[pure vessel]

[pallid inlet]

[glacial venture]

Is there a support server for in-game issues

[lilac solar]

[pallid inlet]

Vending machine

[stable tulip]

I must immediately disprove this by ue40ing nodoka

[pallid inlet]

There’s #🔧technical-help

[pure vessel]

I like how being able to read is a genius level achievement for that guy

where's my phd

[lilac solar]

I eated it

[glacial venture]

Rather I want to bother someone who works at NEXON to undust my phrenapates card

[pure vessel]

spit it out

[shell tree]

Just a heads up that you will get bad advice there

[pallid inlet]

Don’t worry that’s already being changed soon

[glacial venture]

Even if it will cost me pyrox

[marble gust]

you can do that in a few updates

[pure vessel]

they're actually adding that functionality in 5th fes afaik

[lilac solar]

yummy

[pure vessel]

1200 pyrox to restore phren card

but you can only restore once so

[glacial venture]

Umazing timing

[stable tulip]

remember to break it again afterwards, I'm sure nothing bad will happen

[pallid inlet]

You just described what the new change to the black card will do

[pallid inlet]

I will

Just to assert dominance over the clankers

[wild quail]

well I thought that kind of alting MIGHT be an offense, especially that blatant one

ig it's not, in that case I'm sorry

[pure vessel]

???

[west perch]

we got peeps here with quite literally 8 accounts

[pure vessel]

@peav

[lilac solar]

peav

[pallid inlet]

Peavine and denosaur

[glacial venture]

2 hour long dailies

[stable pollen]

Why maint

[glacial venture]

💀

[pallid inlet]

2 week patch

[shell tree]

each alt requires a ton of work that can’t be duplicated, so I understand why it’s not banned. Alts in osu are banned because it’s purely skills-based, and skills carry over to each alt with the person

[stable tulip]

having an alt = ban, got it yeah no not here mate

[stable pollen]

Can someone elaborate why this is a thing

[pure vessel]

mental illness

[pallid inlet]

Because they can

[west perch]

no idea

[stable pollen]

Mental illness is the only answer

[lilac solar]

John Nexon demands not only our money but our souls too

[stable tulip]

for fun

[pure vessel]

peav needs an intervention

[pallid inlet]

Also wouldn’t it be difficult to figure out who is an alt?

[stable pollen]

Must be super fun replaying the same game 8 times

Exhilirating

[stable tulip]

no it's fun pulling more waifus

[glacial venture]

Hypothesis: so they can pull and build different students and borrow from both accounts

[tired wyvern]

i know someone who play 4 accounts but 8 accounts ? is that guy lunatic ? that's so insane Man, isn't that tormenting to do ? 😭

[pure vessel]

Just buy pyrox and pull more waifus on one account

[pallid inlet]

Peavine

[pure vessel]

ez

[stable pollen]

I plat every raid for a year and a half on a single f2p account

[ashen goblet]

You can borrow from an alt, or try stuff you wouldnt invest on main. And mental illness.

[shell tree]

Peavine rhymes with Kevin

[marble gust]

deno's alts easily covers half of EU plat spots

/j

[pure vessel]

it's a joke because it's actually 1999/2000 plat spots

[pallid inlet]

What if the entirety of Europe platinum is denosaur

[stable tulip]

that's not hard, there's almost no EU players to compete with

[frail glen]

i thought you pronounce it like
pea vine

[pure vessel]

the last 1 is joe

[frail glen]

how does it rhyme

[stable pollen]

People live in the EU?

[pure vessel]

there are only 2 eu players

[stable pollen]

I thought everyone was from America

[tired wyvern]

there's America Player here ?

[covert spoke]

wouldnt call them people, no

[pallid inlet]

Denosaur

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345795159895445545.webp?size=160&animated=true

[shell tree]

||shhh, I’m spreading misinfo||

peh-vin

kevin

[pallid inlet]

[stable pollen]

Isnt everything America

[pure vessel]

america is the world, true

[stable pollen]

That is what orange man said

[tired wyvern]

NA and Global are separate server ?

[stable tulip]

united world of America 🇺🇸 ready to fight the space bugs

[pure vessel]

"global" is technically eu isnt it

[simple ravine]

even if it wasnt allowed nexon wouldnt do shit cus they cant even ban piloted accounts like v

[pure vessel]

but most people say global to refer to the global client

which covers every region that's not jp

[shell tree]

Glory To The Empire

[stable tulip]

the fact that global is eu really is a sad joke

[shell tree]

they are globalists, after all

[frail glen]

what does EU stand for

[pure vessel]

I like how it's not just a "not covered region" thing either

[echo oar]

pevin...

[stable tulip]

eyyy

[pure vessel]

it's literally just eu

[simple ravine]

we can ban cheaters only if they have clears using 10 lvl students and impossible scores

[pallid inlet]

If the alts were automated fully though, wouldn’t that be ban worth

[shell tree]

pevin…

[pure vessel]

I'm pretty sure aus falls into asia

[lilac solar]

USA USA USA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅 🦅

[pure vessel]

idk where the fuck Africa falls into

[simple ravine]

and we will need a whole week to confirm

[past spruce]

Double digits

[pure vessel]

do we have any African blue archive players

[frail glen]

dude, that is a continent...

[pallid inlet]

Do we?

[stable pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-misato-misato-tachibana-my-ordinary-life-weapon-gif-11820929226344013547

[frail glen]

like

[pallid inlet]

Which server

[pure vessel]

there is no Africa server you dingus

we're talking about blue archive servers

silly goose

[simple ravine]

asia is also a continent

[frozen birch]

I get the feeling these clears need UE40 Chare so i prolly cant do them

[stable pollen]

Africa is a country like North America is a country

[frail glen]

the fact that this scene takes place inside a school makes it extra dark joke...

[stable pollen]

Europe is also a country

[past spruce]

40.103m

[stable tulip]

dip your toes into the cn servers and then call asia an entire server

[past spruce]

[pallid inlet]

The American education system

[frozen birch]

i probably just go for comfy since double torment should be just fine i imagine

[stable pollen]

China? Don’t you mean Taiwan?

[frozen birch]

purple im guessing SMika just trivializes it

[stable tulip]

yep sorry East Taiwan

[marble gust]

[pure vessel]

hm

[teal nova]

yeah
the only continent in this world is america

[pure vessel]

do south American IPs go to NA

[forest dagger]

here in American we are taught to be dumber than everyone else yet richer than everyone else

[pallid inlet]

Probably

[lilac solar]

nozomi raid this time

[pure vessel]

I feel like we do have a few SA players

[marble gust]

i mean where else

[frozen birch]

surely SMika is less mald due to better stab but idk

[pure vessel]

"""global"""

[ashen goblet]

Yes

[marble gust]

hank dont abbreviate south america

[frozen birch]

oh right, urban?

[pallid inlet]

Indoor

[stable pollen]

There is no people in the country called South America

[wicked vine]

asia is a server

[stable tulip]

hank don't abbreviate cheese pizza

[marble gust]

momoitrue

[frozen birch]

oh no wonder its DHina idk why people were saying Toki

[shell tree]

Blue Archive African server

[frozen birch]

ppl thought it was Urban lmao

[wicked vine]

sa2 is my favorite game

[pallid inlet]

[pure vessel]

momoi archive

[pallid inlet]

How

[stable pollen]

Im currently rank 1 in the Ethiopia server

[shell tree]

something assault 2?

[frail glen]

sussy alabama 2?

[wicked vine]

look at my profile bum

[pallid inlet]

Ethiopia is a place?

[shell tree]

brother was more based than me

[marble gust]

senless sone 2ero

[lilac solar]

SUS AMOGUS 2????

[barren pine]

the My Office thing

[tall glacier]

hello raidless

[wicked vine]

ok it just doesnt load

[barren pine]

That should be all of them, right?

[tall glacier]

[marble gust]

:amogus:

[wicked vine]

sonic adventure 2

[frail glen]

ngl the first thing I think about ZZZ is kamen rider zzz not zenless zone zero

[pallid inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345795159895445545.webp?size=160&animated=true

[pure vessel]

it says currently playing zenless zone zero

[marble gust]

https://tenor.com/view/it-gute-nacht-not-gluten-nacht-gluten-nacht-gute-nacht-gif-11419817225655515471

[wicked vine]

yea look at the full profile bro

[pure vessel]

im not listening to a zzz player

[stable tulip]

I absolutely love that when there's no gameplay gpd just turns into general but for the raid runners

[frail glen]

hello not listening to a zzz player
I am EternalFeel

[wicked parcel]

Hop on arknights endfield

[pallid inlet]

It sure is

[frozen birch]

purple SRKR torment im more cooked on ngl

[shell tree]

EternalFeline

[pallid inlet]

Will you listen to nihaha

[lilac solar]

get on Xenosaga

[wicked vine]

why wtf

[frail glen]

[lilac solar]

[wicked parcel]

They're gooners

[stable tulip]

[frail glen]

nah but fr though
get on Slay the Spire 2

[wicked vine]

fair enough

gooner game

🤢

[barren pine]

Why is my colection button stuck with that notification, I already got them all

[wicked parcel]

But it's gayme recognise gayme so I don't get it

[lilac solar]

I've never played zzz but I think the chocolate cat is cute

[stable tulip]

until the playerbase retakes zzz from the yuritard tourists most people treat them like hoyo players

[teal nova]

if zzz is gooner game then nikke is-

[stable tulip]

shark is nice tho

[shell tree]

adding “based” to your notes

[pallid inlet]

Oh wow the new update was already downloading in the background

Thanks and

[shell tree]

what the

[wicked parcel]

I haven't played it but I heard it has blue archive players too

[lilac solar]

yeah I have it downloading on my steam deck right now

[barren pine]

There's like 2 downloads you gotta go through

[wicked parcel]

How big is it

4 gb?

[lilac solar]

267MB

[pallid inlet]

267mb

[lilac solar]

.4

[stable tulip]

still won't be able to get in

[lilac solar]

[barren pine]

Isn't there's also a download for when you Tap to Start

[pallid inlet]

I think your internet is down

[barren pine]

Or did it change now

[pallid inlet]

No

[lilac solar]

not on steam client

[teal nova]

is that just predownload

[pallid inlet]

Yes

[tired wyvern]

Nah, Internet my country just that sucks

[marble gust]

bros downloading the void

[shell tree]

steam allowed me to update. But still won’t let me in lol

I guess it’s pre

[wicked parcel]

Did you try closing discord

[echo oar]

yeah the download's always early

[lilac solar]

preload updates are nice tbh

[steady prairie]

i forgot there's maint

[echo oar]

lets you get it ready before maint finishes

[frozen birch]

so yeah purple SRKR im cooked

[lilac solar]

jfd speedrun

[pallid inlet]

Hello kaijustark

[teal nova]

so relatable

[lilac solar]

just nozomi it

[tired wyvern]

sometimes i had to close another Laptop connection to get it done

[stable tulip]

now it's just taunting me, got the notification my ap is full

[steady prairie]

oh yeah vinny i can only afford to get 33m with that gpina strat

[shell tree]

technically, you can’t start the game before downloading

[steady prairie]

and ue30 ukarin fail to clear from 22m

[stable tulip]

it's not full btw it's just delayed af

[astral fern]

The usual

I got 15M at most

[echo oar]

just ue50 on the rerun

[astral fern]

Huge crit diff

[steady prairie]

actual slap in the balls

[west perch]

how

[shell tree]

I got down to 26m only twice. I guess it’s crit luck?

[steady prairie]

It's definitely some p2 crit

mainly the final few ex

[shell tree]

ukarin without sfoob must be rough

[steady prairie]

other than that my dmg lines up for p2 and groggy

[shell tree]

[steady prairie]

ukarin without anything is bad

[shell tree]

ukarin on the ice pillar feelsbadman

[pure vessel]

yeah

[odd geyser]

[pure vessel]

ukarin kind of feels like ass to run without a shield pierce icebreaker

[west perch]

I did find a workaround for that

[radiant oasis]

[shell tree]

ohh karin memes

[west perch]

and it's that if everyone else costs 1/2 and you have a shit ton of cost recovery, it doesn't feel bad

[odd geyser]

[pure vessel]

thankfully she only gets used on my ejection cleanup team and usually that only has like 10m hp to go through

even if I fucked up my rotation pretty bad

[stable tulip]

fancy person showed up

[odd geyser]

i can't believe my last ukarin ex left the boss on like 30k hp man

[west perch]

like I'm p sure my lun ukarin team can get through 30m if the crits were there

[shell tree]

and here I thought 200k was bad

[odd geyser]

BToki actually my fastest cleanup option

[shell tree]

I could have restarted for crit, but I only had 3 minutes left on the ticket

[pure vessel]

im not looking forward to hunting down another gpina borrow

[odd geyser]

I had 20 minutes left but I couldn't be asked

[covert spoke]

ukarin is excellent from 6m

[pure vessel]

at least we don't have gebby for a while

[odd geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314970519738908672/1474884655953215699/image.png?ex=699e1be0&is=699cca60&hm=6fc69703a5f1ce298d64f25bd405cc4f35d31143e6b44a814957aac2f8c7e425&

[shell tree]

Huh. Haven’t seen it phrased this way before

[covert spoke]

10m if u feel like letting her minstab

[pure vessel]

maybe next time I'll run boshi pinball and actually go for a top 10 NA placement

[west perch]

I'm putting takane on ukarin team next time

[pure vessel]

ye we get takane next time too

[odd geyser]

I mean, why bother malding for like mid 50s or whatever

[shell tree]

No, what I mean is that the original phrase is, “couldn’t be arsed”

-> assed -> asked

[west perch]

And then with that, I can finally do 4pan only striker healers

rumi koharu imari takane

[shell tree]

I’m just waiting here until someone says, “I’m in”

[west perch]

I think I'll put seia with rumi actually now that I think about it

[snow portal]

Toki, you'll catch a cold dressed like that

[frozen birch]

rumi sucks for healing like yikes

[west perch]

the main yikes for rumi is her cost so seia should've been a consideration earlier

[karmic hatch]

At that point with dMichiru and takane, Geburah Lun is a chill raid

[west perch]

I just didn't think about seia until kotori made me so fkn frustrated

[candid gust]

hi gpd

bye gpd

[covert spoke]

koharu mashnagi idolhag takaneskannapina kokshunkarin

[pallid inlet]

Hello idolpeav

[covert spoke]

so comfy

[candid gust]

kinda busy nowadays so i might slack a lot

[shell tree]

hi peavine (pronounced peh-vin)

[candid gust]

alr see ya

[pallid inlet]

[odd geyser]

we take girls in idol outfits and swimsuits to the tundra

[pallid inlet]

Iwak

🐟

[lilac solar]

peavine only using seven alts instead of eight

[karmic hatch]

Hi perverts

[patent vault]

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-blue-archive-wait-fish-gif-15546145718396551985

[shell tree]

and a girl in a thick parka to the 7th layer of hell

[stable tulip]

let me in john nexon

[lilac solar]

imagine how baller my account would be if I hadn't taken a three year hiatus

[west perch]

you mean how jaded you'd have been?

[odd geyser]

if i started a few months earlier, i'd have miku

[karmic hatch]

No need to mald 110m+ dmg satsuki comp

[odd geyser]

[pure vessel]

NEXON

[lilac solar]

yeah that too

[pure vessel]

GIVE US MIKU RERUN

[shell tree]

If I started one week earlier, I’d have railgun

[stable tulip]

if I started a month earlier I'd have known what fest was

[pure vessel]

AND MY BANK ACCOUNT IS YOURS