💬gameplay-discussion

[polar orbit]

my goal was ~33.0m or less after the first wave (2ex skills)

the second wave i may have missed a crit

[odd geyser]

broco changed his name again

[lofty dove]

Is anyone from the TA/GA coin shops worth buying/investing in for Chesed?

[odd geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ohmygodtu-abokit-اومايقوتو-oh-my-godtu-gif-16716321040528611414

Momoi is consistently on my Chesed teams on any difficulty

[slate sky]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-serika-serikat-blue-archive-new-year-serika-gif-25279989

[odd geyser]

don't troll new players bro

😟

[snow portal]

Okay don't lie to the man

Smh

[slate sky]

Only used if really low on options

But generally not recommended. Momoi is the batter pick

[odd geyser]

Midori was useful historically too but she was generally just used as an option to buff Momoi

[cyan ether]

[snow portal]

Bruh they just had to troll on node 3

[polar orbit]

I'm being tempted to buy a 4th set of yellow eleph this month

[odd geyser]

how raised is your akane

[polar orbit]

ue50

[odd geyser]

do you have UE30 kotama

[polar orbit]

yes

i think the next would be hanae to ue30

[odd geyser]

are you planning to do geburah tor+

[marble gust]

just ue60 hanako

[odd geyser]

yeah hanae is the answer

[polar orbit]

yeah i wanna ue60 hanako as well, but idk how much i wanna buy vs wait for the gacha

the more i buy, the closer to ue70 i will get

[hallow plank]

There is a blue moon today:

[sonic crater]

oh wait right next geburah there will be ue 60 t10 serina rot

[odd geyser]

I bought UE40 Hanae when I was fairly new. (fewer options)
I have 170 eleph over UE60 rn

[slate sky]

Bond 25

[sonic crater]

atleast b25 isnt that hard to get

might gonna try it instead of overcost hanae shenagian....

[polar orbit]

do you think it'd be worth to do that with hanako? Or should I start with ue30 hanae now

[odd geyser]

[polar orbit]

i'm probably not gonna use hanae until like luna hiero or somethin

[slate sky]

Needs t10 necklace and healing lb

[odd geyser]

I can buy her rn. I don't care nearly as much for Hanako UE60

[odd geyser]

easy tbh

[hallow plank]

(Now, do I invite S. Kikyou as the audience?)

[slate sky]

[supple star]

[polar orbit]

i'm at 43/200, I have oshig but she's 3 stars and not built cause i have no credits

[supple star]

Uh oh

[frail glen]

her hat so big she can't even fit it in the mini icon

[odd geyser]

Hanae is more useful than UE60 Hanako

[polar orbit]

oh?

[odd geyser]

[feral jetty]

i don't get it it's like she has 2% crit rate on that one perorominion on the back specifically

she often crits a lot everywhere else

but 9 times out of 10

the run dies to that guy not getting crit on specifically

[supple star]

[atomic arrow]

is it a luna rot

[frail glen]

read the stories

[supple star]

[slate sky]

To instant heal the heater to full

[atomic arrow]

ok, cause I'm sleeping on tor 🛌

[feral jetty]

anyways

[hallow plank]

I did it:

[atomic arrow]

or I'm gonna try to this time

[feral jetty]

reminder to never eject ever

[atomic arrow]

satsuki is borrowed, gonna raise mashiro

[old rose]

doesn't iwak need ue30 for tor

[atomic arrow]

I heard 4*

[steep vortex]

oh ew geb is next

[old rose]

maybe with uasuna 4* is enough

[sonic crater]

nah that's lun

[young lotus]

I guess I stop there

[old rose]

huh

guess it is for lun

[sonic crater]

ya lol

[steady prairie]

3* enough with heater buffs afaik

[west perch]

needs uasuna

or skanna

nah heater buffs can't affect pillar breaks like sroko where you have to wait for shield since you'd have to let it cool down

[supple star]

bye chicken

4.5k Tor clears NA

[steep vortex]

lmao were not gonna hit it are we

[supple star]

nah

[feral jetty]

@cyan ether

swapping kisaki and nyk ex lets you squeeze out some extra damage

kisaki at 10 cost barely lasts long enough for the second bhoshi ex

[summer dew]

if i knew how the hell did boshi go here, i'd do so every time because the fan from her sub hit every small peroro + peroro during groggy

[supple star]

SMika drill?

[cyan ether]

oh i see

[summer dew]

eri drill

[cyan ether]

how far are we apart

[supple star]

[cyan ether]

just like 3 frames?

or 2

[feral jetty]

like 1 frame

[cyan ether]

oh you got it twice

[feral jetty]

yeah

[cyan ether]

free strat

[opaque dagger]

Ye this is the godspot, I've got it exactly once

[eternal thorn]

I believe

last day to make huge moves

[ancient star]

[viral bobcat]

Huh we got gold in torment now

[ancient star]

Not in NA

[viral bobcat]

yeah in GLB

[west perch]

how bad is it now

[lyric hatch]

Might be na too by next reset

[west perch]

39.2?

[grand fern]

[opaque dagger]

Meanwhile, Asia prolly not even seeing 6k Tor

[ancient star]

NA Torment cutoff?

[west perch]

that region doesn't matter

[marble gust]

disappointed

[west perch]

Oooh

let's go 40m cutoff possible??

[frail glen]

maybe I should have picked Asia as my region

[summer dew]

Too bad it's very inconsistent and was also a result of me failing rotation

[west perch]

bad

[frail glen]

what did I do 😭

[astral fern]

Holy crap eu is full tor cutoff

[west perch]

don't join the slaccers

[marble gust]

isnt kr still at 39.9

[astral fern]

Lemme check na

[viral bobcat]

damn

[ancient star]

I kinda expect 48xx Torment clears tbh...

[frail glen]

It is not slaccing if it is a tactical resting strat that allows for greater room of comfort

[opaque dagger]

Ye I'm not gonna figure out what black magic I need to do on Wave 2 to get this

But when you do, each sub does 1.2-1.5m dmg with good crits, very stonks

[west perch]

is that asia? How the hell have they not moved in 2 days

[lyric hatch]

Thats na

[opaque dagger]

No that's NA

Asia should hv around 5.5k rn

[west perch]

oh ok

[summer dew]

"tactical resting strat" is the same as saying "im f2p btw"

[frail glen]

I am f2p btw

[opaque dagger]

Also I don't get Boshi sub on groggy anymore

I hv a rotation for 3 EX groggy

[frail glen]

wait why am I getting dino reacted

I am f2p

[untold tusk]

Give me a Tiphareth team since I will now try attempts

[west perch]

solo aoba

[frail glen]

okay all seriousness

[untold tusk]

Not full team?

[frail glen]

will Chesed be tor cut off

[supple star]

nope

[frail glen]

beause I can only do minimum tor and insane clear

[astral fern]

Wait chesed is next?

[untold tusk]

Aoba and which students in the special slots?

[astral fern]

Shit

[ancient star]

Mari, bunch of healers

And use Chesed skill to mob down

[supple star]

that's like not minimum

[late pasture]

we had to pull teeth for EU to be tor cutoff, i doubt we'll get another anytime soon

[untold tusk]

I do not have many built heal students

[late pasture]

global players are lazy as shit

[bitter tundra]

Wait, so the bunnies outfits and the swimsuits are all available at the same time?

[supple star]

yea

[west perch]

Yep, still a bad banner though

[frail glen]

I have no s hanako soI must borrow her and bring my own dps

can't speedrun insane
high chance can't 1 pan tor and have to go for 2 pan

those don't translate well to good scores

[west perch]

chesed?

[frail glen]

and i thought peroro is supposed to be on the harder side of raid, if it is getting tor cutoff ....

I might be cooked

[supple star]

hmm a decent insane run is still 1pan

[bitter tundra]

So that means one week in advance for next banners after the bunnies?

[west perch]

if you mean that we just got 1 week cut off then yes

[ancient star]

You can borrow up to three students. I don't know if C Tiph can be cleared in one ticket tho

[late pasture]

tempted to pull on it still

3 limiteds i don't have is enticing

[west perch]

so miyo/fuyu is on the 10th feb

[frail glen]

just a wild thought
what if, i mean like what if
after 5th anni all the raids are permanently 2 or 3 borrows allowed

[opaque dagger]

Lol lmao never happening

[frail glen]

ik it is not gonna happen because they love money

but

99% faith

[feral jetty]

bneru is good wdym

[bitter tundra]

Oh ok

[feral jetty]

for uneru bond stats

[west perch]

Hallucinations are over in... well, I'm not sure where but certainly not here

[opaque dagger]

There is no difficulty anymore if you get 2-3 borrows

[west perch]

it's literally world raid privilege

[late pasture]

yea and what if they game eligma for clearing raids and a 10 pull ticket for TA too

[odd geyser]

[frail glen]

do you not want it to happen?

[west perch]

I get that you think so, but it's only for world raid

[west perch]

I don't

[late pasture]

I don't delude myself for fun

[frail glen]

It's just a wild thought anyway

[west perch]

this is only for world raid so that newbies and slaccers have better access to higher farm rates

[late pasture]

here's a wild thought: raise your own students you broke ass

[west perch]

also because expecting everyone to 1pan tor is kinda ridiculous anyway

[frail glen]

[feral jetty]

geburah and tiphareth might both be dead by the time i wake up

[untold tusk]

So how to kill both side spiders Chesed skill only kills one side on Tiphareth

[hollow saddle]

Huh?

[ancient star]

Wdym? Chesed skill is a big AoE that covers all cores

[hollow saddle]

Goliath kills all of them within range lol

[untold tusk]

One side survived

[hollow saddle]

Aim issue

[summer dew]

you can still get 40m with separate core team tho, take a look at plana-stats https://www.plana-stats.com/JP/GrandAssault/20250910/Rankings/Elastic and filter like r5000 below for example

[ancient star]

You didn't aim well

[untold tusk]

I can try again then

[west perch]

yeah this is standard for chesed

groggy setup into 1core

[opaque dagger]

Somehow 1 team is faster on Elastic

Hanako Swimsuit moment frfr

[west perch]

it's because it's degenerate

you cast SMika before the last wave spawns

shanako kills last wave just before smika hits core

then auto SMika twice

[opaque dagger]

Doesn't auto require Meeka EX to be on the left

[untold tusk]

What to do after killing all the cores?
Tiphareth appears to have a lot of health

[opaque dagger]

Do you reset for that

[hollow saddle]

Uhh wait

Till he spawns another adds

[untold tusk]

I do not need to dps damage Tiphareth?

[hollow saddle]

No need lol

Goliath for mobs & kether for core

[west perch]

Lemme check

fucking hell I didn't even notice that

They controlled left slot the entire time

so that SMika is deterministically left card on core room

https://youtu.be/PSihTXYPshM

[untold tusk]

What about for run section?

[west perch]

Die.

It's a 2pan solution

tiph should be at half health or less, yeah?

[untold tusk]

After perishing do not I need to do the run section again?

[west perch]

nope, you start from the beginning with the minions

[untold tusk]

That is certainly a solution
I 2pan difficulty C or D?

[west perch]

D

[odd geyser]

new anniversary title is f2p and animated

[untold tusk]

How to get?

[odd geyser]

login, it was in mail

[untold tusk]

Let me see

Also how much UE / skills invest required for solo Aoba?
She appears to take a lot of damage from Tiphareth

[odd geyser]

borrow healer too

[untold tusk]

Borrow which healer(s)?

[odd geyser]

Aoba can take any healer

I have Serina up for Eimi

[west perch]

goated MV is officially out
https://youtu.be/KWAb5UwPH6E

[feral jetty]

oh god purple chesed speedrun looks like a pain in the ass

[old rose]

this is so fucked

[west perch]

ah, you watched the video I sent?

yeah

I mean, that's for 4008

could go slower

[feral jetty]

i'm still gonna try the 4008

next chesed GA seems like a rare raid nowadays where i can actually get a decent rank

[cyan ether]

it looked ok stab wise for borrowed mika

40084

[feral jetty]

i'm using my own smika

apparently ue40 works

i'm borrowing seia

[cyan ether]

oh

[cyan ether]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1VupmzwEna/

r1 tl

prob just another ex?

[feral jetty]

i hope i'll have a ue40 seia borrow in the first place

[cyan ether]

or maybe not even

[cyan ether]

huh ill put up

[untold tusk]

Aoba borrow perished to Tiphareth orbs(?) attack

[odd geyser]

okay I did it for the culture

[cyan ether]

this snagi on seia tech is 5head tho

[odd geyser]

You need shields (Mari)

[untold tusk]

I did not find a borrow Mari

[feral jetty]

ue40 smika still kills in 3 ex

i checked schale

[cyan ether]

[odd geyser]

you're high enough level that your own should work with minimal invest

[untold tusk]

Mari with 3/1/1/1 and T4 gears good enough?

[feral jetty]

wait it actually looks like ue30 snagi might work on that TL

600 eligma saved again

[opaque dagger]

EX slot position manipulation was not on my bingo card of "weird niche advanced gameplay techniques", that's for sure

[odd geyser]

worth trying

[proven dove]

Is 1pan that inconsistent, or is it a borrow issue ?

[odd geyser]

it was more annoying before we had level 2 or maybe it's like peroro: shutoff your brain and you do better

[cyan ether]

its pretty common for frame war raids

[west perch]

me comfy 4006

[odd geyser]

yeah, ex slot position mald is common for auto mald

[marble gust]

imma invest on waifus instead

[opaque dagger]

Arch is a changed man

[proven dove]

Take a rest, you deserve it

[frail glen]

luna really changes a person huh

[true shale]

I've done it on Srkr too, for when I want to refresh Izuna EX but don't want her to move.

[worldly sun]

Finally, ue60 chiaki

[marble gust]

but man ue60 is fucking expensive as shit

also drained eligma

[worldly sun]

Tru

[sterile lodge]

eligmalet

[marble gust]

i went from billionaire to beggar in a week

[worldly sun]

You def should have pulled a dupe on nagi banner for free ue60

[marble gust]

dude i didnt even get 200 dhina elephs

[worldly sun]

At least dhina was free ue60

[astral fern]

I wonder if binah will also have tor cutoff

[worldly sun]

It didn’t the last few times people thought it would

[odd geyser]

dunno if this is the time to ask but are you gonna pull IMari on rerun Arch?

[worldly sun]

Even tho red and purple were free

Arch should skip cos it will be funee

[marble gust]

shes too good to not have lol its non negotiable

at least im skipping like takane dmichiru

[odd geyser]

yeah, I think IMari is fundamentally nuts compared to DMichiru

[torn thorn]

[odd geyser]

if we had a dps with cost sub, they'd definitely be used over DMichiru for world raid so we could take Mari

[brave totem]

guh

[marble gust]

maybe I'll skip msuzumi too who knows

[sterile lodge]

don't skip

[feral jetty]

i'll sacc all of them in 10

(and run out of eligma)

[fleet narwhal]

eh, so

how are feeling eu pros

[summer dew]

joe's boshi crits too much

[fleet narwhal]

us eu pros suffer from success

[sterile lodge]

nah

[feral jetty]

i might get kicked out of plat (2 digits)

[sterile lodge]

this week, the only ones having some sort of success are the people playing on JP

[summer dew]

such is the price we must pay

[fleet narwhal]

die Doug ! die !!!!

[sterile lodge]

come on man, don't do my bro like that

[fleet narwhal]

gold is too good for him tbh

bronze !

[sterile lodge]

🙁

[feral jetty]

what did doug do to deserve this

[fleet narwhal]

slacked tor

[sterile lodge]

ikr poor guy is just playing the game in peace

[feral jetty]

the real slacker is stallman here

[worldly sun]

Damn there goes my eu alt
Dougrith

[fleet narwhal]

it would be durian if anything

[feral jetty]

speedrunning ins instead of doing their best to beat torment no matter how many teams it takes like doug

[opaque dagger]

Isn't that the 40m team lmao

[feral jetty]

yeah

they could literally topscore torment if they tried

[fleet narwhal]

doug has all of the students for comfy tor wanpan is the thing, hes no different than those insane speedrunners

[odd geyser]

goober

[opaque dagger]

Deno hates dumb ppl confirmed

[feral jetty]

but the difference is that doug did torment anyway

even if it took a lot of teams

[wanton pilot]

does 3 star nykayoko survive f104 rockets if you use bikeroko?

[feral jetty]

unlike those slaccers just doing insane

[sterile lodge]

who knows, maybe he didn't invest too much into them. we don't see the full picture

[wanton pilot]

im trying mina but she gets exploded through her debuff if no eva

[opaque dagger]

Should go calc

[sterile lodge]

I wish I could add him in the game and send him a msg

[odd geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060462732006133761/1112961633426362398/KakaoTalk_20230529_234129688.gif

[summer dew]

IzunaGold

[fleet narwhal]

he shall suffer

[crude sable]

Settled for 40.044, maybe might upscore myself a bit later

[crude sable]

Did you see the 27pan tor clear? Im still low key cracking up about it

[odd geyser]

[sterile lodge]

I wish I had 27 teams to even try that

[crude sable]

Lowest score on NA, it has to be a meme because all his units are built

[steep vortex]

so glad i never believed in na

[odd geyser]

inori looking clear

[torn thorn]

500 more

[crude sable]

We might get tor cutoff after all, quite a few insane clears that could be wanpan or 2pan tor

[odd geyser]

who the seia buffing

[old rose]

sumire dps

[odd geyser]

smh this neglect

[astral fern]

What in the Dinosaur is this behaviour

[crude sable]

Like I said, I think he got it down to 500k-ish hp then just put units in and immediately quit until he got to 27 pan

[feral jetty]

you're telling me you don't believe in the dual sseia buffed sumire and nyaru strat?

[fleet narwhal]

who

[astral fern]

Why am I included there (I'm the one with white clothing who almost fell)

[feral jetty]

u

[astral fern]

u

[fleet narwhal]

u

[west perch]

u

[sterile lodge]

u

[fleet narwhal]

tf

gpd, dont you dare turn against me

[frail glen]

[fleet narwhal]

[supple star]

[frail glen]

[fleet narwhal]

post so true I had to

[torn thorn]

[odd geyser]

[astral fern]

Is this Deno?

[untold tusk]

Dajin can I slack Tiphareth C instead of D is too difficult for I

[marble gust]

gpd caught flying in anni stage

[summer dew]

i think deno is simply too bald and that's why he hates ppl who slacc and want it comfy

[frail glen]

[fleet narwhal]

these kaijus

they'll never learn

[supple star]

[frail glen]

I am the real f2p here

[grand fern]

i am the real f2p here

[fleet narwhal]

indeed, I am

[west perch]

I am the real f2p here

[astral fern]

More real than Denosaur

[supple star]

I am the real f2p here

[opaque dagger]

The fact that Dajin has so many reacts is peak whel indicator

[grand fern]

[summer dew]

i am the real f2p here

[frail glen]

maybe we are all the real f2ps here

[odd geyser]

you can do whatever you want
It is more efficient to clear D in 2 teams than C in 1 though.

[marble gust]

hey

[astral fern]

Except Deno anyway

[fleet narwhal]

f2peno to you

[astral fern]

And Dajin too but he alr succumed to new aris

[astral fern]

Fast2Payeno

[supple star]

wait

[fleet narwhal]

free to play (d) eno

[supple star]

if everyone is f2p
then no one will be

[fleet narwhal]

f2peno

[opaque dagger]

Hello whelno

[astral fern]

Hi whelno

I mean wheldeno

[opaque dagger]

Even brought out the whel emotes

To prove whelness

Sasuga whelno

[astral fern]

Ofc Deno is this big of a whale and oiler

[fleet narwhal]

its 3 bucks a month...

[astral fern]

He's also above me in tor clear too

[opaque dagger]

That is 1.5 meals smh my head

[crude sable]

So many ramen packets...

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-starcraft-izuna-gif-11116323766786608879

[marble gust]

ngl i forgo who i spent 6k eligma on

dementia kicking in

[west perch]

like 400 on nyjunko

that I rmbr

[crude sable]

I know i used a decent amount on kisaki and chare

[sterile lodge]

d.aru too right?

[marble gust]

hinata 1k uneru 600 nyj 400 daru 400

rio 600

[signal hound]

Hifumi

[opaque dagger]

Symptom of Pelolo Traumatic Stress Disorder, gws

[marble gust]

nah i didnt ligma her in the end

whelno advices

nymucc 300

[supple star]

wtf is that lmao

[frail glen]

starcraft X Blue archive

both are pretty popular in korea sooooo

[astral fern]

Dajin what the whel?

Who eats $40 steak lunch?

[odd geyser]

idk what you mean

me kelp, simple photosynthesis is all i need to survive

[west perch]

me eat $15 2 for 1 meal deal
discounts are king

[sterile lodge]

me ordering takeaway

[untold tusk]

Why sometimes the next skill card in the rotation is not one that I want to use?

[hollow saddle]

[marble gust]

also no idea where my 700mil creds went

[untold tusk]

I reset a few times on Geburah C because the card rotation was not good
Is slightly random every time?

[frail glen]

how is your weekend guys

[marble gust]

time to main pvp

[old rose]

cold

[west perch]

oh, we can alrd use kanoe this season?

[frail glen]

May your road lead you to warm sands

[supple star]

rainy

[untold tusk]

I am fine I practiced Geburah perhaps a bit too much earlier so now I am ready for their rerun

[frail glen]

you can def hit plat this time with geburah
I believe in you

[hallow plank]

Time to set Eimi as your memorial lobby.
Then surely your device can serve as a heater.

[frail glen]

hope the rains refresh the airs in your areas a bit

[untold tusk]

No score and ranks in world raid

[frail glen]

well I hope you get all your rewards then

[old rose]

is ichika enhanced useless for krkg

[hollow saddle]

Useless till ue40

[supple star]

[copper crescent]

i think they sped up the >>> speed on jp

I'm not exactly sure, I could be tripping

[woven sigil]

Slow down > when

[sterile lodge]

rewind < when

[copper crescent]

wtf rewind

[woven sigil]

Frame by frame when

[untold tusk]

Rewind is not very skillful

[copper crescent]

that's called selecting a skill

[eternal thorn]

^ when

[woven sigil]

Way too speedy

[copper crescent]

wtf

i think we should just be able to combine the > >> >>> setting with bullet time

[woven sigil]

How can I press 2 skills within 200 millisecond interval

Yellow chokmah lore

[odd geyser]

dont forget that hod buffs cost generation

[untold tusk]

I wonder when Geburah will get defeated

[copper crescent]

soon

im thinking 2 hours

[odd geyser]

I've been splitting my attacks between all 3

[copper crescent]

huh

[hallow plank]

Or Set.

[untold tusk]

I do not think I can defeat Chokmah C

[copper crescent]

same

[untold tusk]

I do not have enough blue attack students

[hallow plank]

Who need blue attack in blue Chokmah

[shell tree]

I can’t type the code for aris and EX here

[hallow plank]

Just write proper romaji: ArisuEX

[shell tree]

But then you’re ruining the BEST part

😩

I saw that

[untold tusk]

What floor is difficulty C similar to?

[copper crescent]

74

[woven sigil]

F106 was cleared with Neru right after her release

[summer dew]

39.332 what is happening

[marble gust]

generational run

[shell tree]

wait wtf

eu really has tor cutoff?!

[pastel mortar]

Scroll down a bit you'll find a lvl 89 sensei that's me out of plat

[summer dew]

👨‍🦲

oh hi r2010

[pastel mortar]

Dman they already caught me

Not even worth upscoring cuz I'm sure even 39.45 won't make it

[steep vortex]

you cant 39.8? what are you missing

[hallow plank]

Without D. Aru, I am still having troubles building a more efficient team.
Ibuki instead of Rio, I am missing a lot of damage in the final phase.

[woven sigil]

Saori solo can F109

[fleet narwhal]

eu is a pro server

to be expected

[obsidian heath]

slack server
not even 40m cutoff

[hallow plank]

That's C. Shiroko NY Kayoko team?

[woven sigil]

yep

[pastel mortar]

would be better to say that I only have himari, snagi, sseia, daru

[steep vortex]

no ako?

[shell tree]

is it

[pastel mortar]

yeah ako ofc

[fleet narwhal]

[hallow plank]

No C. Shiroko yet.
Although I probably have to claim her for blue Set anyway.

[steep vortex]

does that also mean no nykayoko

[pastel mortar]

Yeah and no seia or rio

[summer dew]

nykayoko is the biggest score divider here

[steep vortex]

speaking of slacc, whats kr cutoff

[shell tree]

Having the basic understanding of how to keep her alive is the divider

[summer dew]

well yeah

[shell tree]

I wasn’t disagreeing with you, btw. Just adding

[pastel mortar]

If it was that easy we wouldn't have half EU speedruning ins

[shell tree]

following tor hw is easier than speedrunning ins, though

[summer dew]

best i could cook was 39.685 without rio, kisaki, nykayoko or boshi on my roster

[shell tree]

wtf isn’t that pretty good

given your constraints

[summer dew]

4mil cleanup for shanako team about 30s

i guess it's nice but i could do better if i put little more invest in few units

[odd geyser]

did you peek the video I sent yet

40m possible with good crit

[summer dew]

actually yeah not yet. it's the last day so i could

[shell tree]

I didn’t even bother to look up hw and just did a scuffed 1pan

[summer dew]

"40m with good crit" sounds :baldshino:

[shell tree]

can’t afford luna this time so I might as well full slacc

[summer dew]

ha, that pos delay with seia looked fun

[odd geyser]

which seia

[summer dew]

both actually but i meant the start

wave2 i've done it many times myself

[young lotus]

unlucky

[odd geyser]

I don't think my UE40 og Seia makes a difference. I just go over cost at some points

her surviving the transition shouldn't actually matter

I got the kill much earlier in the fight before than when I recorded

[summer dew]

yea my seia survives transition if hp >80% or so

actually no needs closer to 90 but anyway

i can afford seia to 4* tho but i'd prefer to get more discount first with ep

[odd geyser]

og seia stars shouldn't really matter

[summer dew]

my superseia can tank 3rd laser hit when needed

but dies on 2nd

(=ue30)

[odd geyser]

oic

[summer dew]

but i think the delay at the start and the mid was the key issues i had

[odd geyser]

using seia on seia to get the mid timing felt like the aha moment for me

[ripe mason]

NA is slaccin on the luna clears

[odd geyser]

b/c Seia isn't really 3 cost. She's 1.8 cost

[summer dew]

yea that's why i often overbuff with seia to get cheap cycle

[odd geyser]

ngl, I might just do tor today salty

feeling lazy

[copper crescent]

what

why transition hp different

[odd geyser]

someone yeeted me

[stable mulch]

Why does it have transition hp

[obsidian heath]

this isn't transition hp

those are arena thresholds

[odd geyser]

different starting background area

very minor position differences that can screw you

[obsidian heath]

pretty sure that's fully cosmetic

or almost

[copper crescent]

ooo

[odd geyser]

I've done enough peroro to say it's not

[copper crescent]

is it the covers

[summer dew]

"initial cost 3, refunding 1.2 cost over time if not used again at least for 15s"

[copper crescent]

idek if there's covers in peroro

how else would position differences screw over the run

[odd geyser]

p1 formation vs p3 formation

[pastel mortar]

Btw saukko how did you miss rio?

[odd geyser]

minor differences in spawn location

[summer dew]

huh yes obviously im riolet

i wouldnt cope this much otherwise

[copper crescent]

isn't this for geb

[summer dew]

but gotta cope when you dont have the dope hehe

[copper crescent]

im so confused

[pastel mortar]

Wait was 100 free pulls after fest in 4.0?

[odd geyser]

I want Aoba to eat laser.
In p1, she naturally runs up on the right
In p3, she doesn't

[copper crescent]

wtf damn

[proven dove]

Before

[copper crescent]

before yeah

[odd geyser]

I remember having aiming problems in the pre boshi era trying different teams on different phases

[proven dove]

I sparked uasuna x_x

[odd geyser]

like BKarin missing a minion

its definitely less of an issue with boshi unless your tl relies on peroro target swapping

[woven sigil]

😟

[copper crescent]

I think I'm gonna 400 on this fes on jp

[odd geyser]

[copper crescent]

quad fes banners

[odd geyser]

I'll probably have to as well for the ligma

two hungry daughters waiting

and I still have this bum that needs to be raised for yesod

[copper crescent]

well it's also for the elephs

lmao

[obsidian heath]

kei's passive+ is max hp?

[copper crescent]

huh

[odd geyser]

I cannot confirm nor deny on the Official Blue Archive discord server run by Nexon Games.

[copper crescent]

isn't it cdmg

[pallid inlet]

Passive is probably crit dmg

[copper crescent]

oh passive+

[odd geyser]

honestly kinda troll given her basic/subskill tho

[copper crescent]

passive is cdmg, idk passive+

wait

[obsidian heath]

it's probably not gonna be as necessary as snagisa ue2

[copper crescent]

so they do know

[odd geyser]

you don't understand

Kei needs UE60.

[west perch]

survivability be like:

[obsidian heath]

overpowered armor

[west perch]

but what if 60k HP on an 850 range unit

[odd geyser]

it just means she doesn't have a weakness. Look at NYK in srkr

[steep vortex]

good idea

[copper crescent]

smugkei is so funny

like, why does she do that

[odd geyser]

I will be slightly patient for her UE60 since valentines is gonna be right after

[copper crescent]

well ig she is superior in intellect

[west perch]

dude the smug was obvious from the very first line she said

[steep vortex]

oh shit youre right, its literally right after fest

[west perch]

why the natsustare? It was radiating from the stream

[hallow plank]

Yes according to bluearchive.wiki.
If true, then more HP than B. Yoshimi and with approximately D. Hina's DEF.

[odd geyser]

this?

[copper crescent]

I wonder what happens if there's a raid where the boss targets the backline more than the tank

[odd geyser]

kether part 1:

[hallow plank]

Izumi:
Mimori:

[odd geyser]

[true shale]

Another one concerns whether a Pos3 350-range tank runs left or right on the first wave.

And how two tanks split in a similar situation.

[odd geyser]

looking back on it now, that was a position tie - I should've just swapped Seia and Toki

[true shale]

Some of the terrains also cause 450/550 midline dps to take AA fire from the minions.

[copper crescent]

o yeah those

[odd geyser]

Normal attacks target the furthest enemy away and deals damage in a circular area.

[copper crescent]

the thing is, those dies fast

you never rly had to protect your backline for a long time

[odd geyser]

we kill them fast or else

[true shale]

Chesed spawns enemies behind us too.

It’s deliberately trying to be disruptive.

[copper crescent]

yeah I was thinking what if there's a raid that extends the or else part

[odd geyser]

DAru died in world raid several times while I was cooking my tl

[true shale]

I guess Srkr largely ignores the presence of a tank?

[copper crescent]

yes

[odd geyser]

their AA is tuned around it

[true shale]

More on lower difficulties, Tbf

[untold tusk]

Dajin can you send Yesod Insane homework I want to watch later

[copper crescent]

smth like one where the boss' attacks are more tricky to get around

[odd geyser]

TA Yesod <t:1774317600:d> <t:1774317600:R> INS | TMT | LUNA

[copper crescent]

there's a lot of attack patterns, but I feel like I'm missing something

[true shale]

Hiero? The backline cannot avoid damage on Hiero.

[true shale]

Did you make one of these for Peroro out of interest?

[copper crescent]

hmm I think tricky to get around vs cannot get around are different

[odd geyser]

whoops

[odd geyser]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

[pallid inlet]

Shiro throws the aa bombs at a random target

[true shale]

Odd that it didn’t come up on discord search for me. I suspected as much from you, but didn’t see anything.

Maybe I’m blind, but I didn’t see a NeKuRo playlist for this Luna either…?

[copper crescent]

it's a search query

not a personal made list

[west perch]

shame we can't pin stuff like that

[copper crescent]

wait we can't?

[odd geyser]

probably busy

[west perch]

well, we

[true shale]

Can ask the mods. They’re usually willing.

[copper crescent]

can't u put it in the gameplay-info

[torn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/rudy-rudolf-phainon-honkai-star-rail-hsr-eoe-gif-15151460885321125412

[copper crescent]

idk if it makes more sense to put in gpi or gpd

[torn thorn]

[true shale]

Having this and editing it over time sounds like a good idea to me.

[copper crescent]

yeah

[sterile lodge]

are mods going to open vc on tuesday?

[true shale]

In #🏅wraid-allied-operation probably

[copper crescent]

I thought of making that some time ago but without the yt links and emojis

I kinda just scrapped that idea but Dajin had the better improvement

[odd geyser]

it makes most sense in raid yeah

[copper crescent]

oh true

[odd geyser]

It's pinned in bunker raid videos

#1068181104198156318 message

[mint sapphire]

for the s.arius pulls?

[sterile lodge]

yeah

[mint sapphire]

maybe, depending on mod coverage

[odd geyser]

joe, can this get pinned? #🏅wraid-allied-operation message

[west perch]

this https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx0Q9iCT0heB4pC_nHerhM3ywy6RrFRx_G

I clipped out her appearance so it counts as no spoiler

[odd geyser]

oic

[copper crescent]

I like that part of her personality

[odd geyser]

man, I kinda hope we don't fight yesod as a world boss looking back on these hw

insane is 2pan like boat

[nocturne lotus]

[copper crescent]

I think the raid links is a pretty good idea

I didn't know what the raid table would add other than the exact time, but the yt links added a lot of value

[true shale]

Here is my contribution to this raid season’s unhelpful screenshot collection.

[odd geyser]

[copper crescent]

yukari feels underrated

[odd geyser]

b/c kikyou's swimsuit wins

[ripe mason]

wins what

[odd geyser]

in the must pull category

even you pulled her

[copper crescent]

darn whels I have barely enough to stay afloat and they're pulling 2-3 banners more than me between fests

[torn thorn]

me do 400 on sarius!!!!

also get buniess!!!!!

🐇

[odd geyser]

can't believe you skipped sfubuki

[copper crescent]

WAT

[torn thorn]

i spooked her during fest

[pallid inlet]

[copper crescent]

o lmao

[torn thorn]

[pallid inlet]

Lmao

[ripe mason]

I was worried it would be like skipping daru debut, but she hasn't felt as impactful

[copper crescent]

yeah I haven't seen her brought up much in discussions

or comps

[odd geyser]

having her on jp, I knew she wasn't DAru tier

I knew she'd make some of the upcoming lunas (at the time) much easier

[copper crescent]

she's obv not daru tier, but yeah she is luna extra team material

[odd geyser]

that bkarin team with her was actually sick

laser bait + crit buff that stacked with NYFuuka

[true shale]

How much damage? (and with/without groggy?)

[odd geyser]

11m+ with groggy

[true shale]

[odd geyser]

well with crit too

[ripe mason]

10m with bad crit, 12mil with good crit

[odd geyser]

it felt like I got godlike crit on tix

[frigid oar]

Greetings GPD balder

[copper crescent]

Greetings Ⓜ️

[odd geyser]

and then boshi

[frigid oar]

Hi bob

[true shale]

[frigid oar]

👋

[odd geyser]

me no bald but hiya

[true shale]

Have you been clearing Luna every day Fiani?

[copper crescent]

wtf

[odd geyser]

coha, I feel like I could daily clear atp but I don't have the energy

[true shale]

Yeah, but you only cleared yesterday, didn't you?

[odd geyser]

It really does feel like I can just keep marching on through the teams and everything will be fine

yeah

[true shale]

That's like saying I'll daily clear Luna once I finally get a clear today

[odd geyser]

[true shale]

Fiani cleared immediately, iirc.

[copper crescent]

yeah well you're only clearing once...

[odd geyser]

I'm saying once you learn the teams, it's easy enough if you have extras

[polar orbit]

less than 500 to go

[odd geyser]

my attention was split! JP event is so cool

[ripe mason]

we're not making it

[frail glen]

why we seeing this a good thing

😭

[copper crescent]

WHAT

oh

we're not making it

😔

[polar orbit]

we're still tecnically on pace

our pace is even faster now

[copper crescent]

yeah JP event left me stunned

[worldly sun]

Guys will Asia get tor cutoff ?!!!???

[true shale]

I'm copying your S.Nagisa team. How much dmg would you expect from it after a week of practice, if so?

[copper crescent]

it had a completely different feel to it vs previous fes

like, it didn't need open world to be good

[odd geyser]

I guess its blowing me away more than vol F b/c I was watching Vol F from the sidelines

[true shale]

This is closer to Vol F hype, imo

[frigid oar]

Who the hell is Fiani ?

[odd geyser]

I joined jp after 2nd anni

[frigid oar]

61-66M

[odd geyser]

true wakamo fan

[copper crescent]

ooooooo that makes sense

[true shale]

Wait, that's way ahead of what I did yesterday.

I'd live ticket right now if I could count on 66M

I did pull the trigger on UE40 Kisaki this morning though.

[frigid oar]

Damn,happyfor her

[frigid oar]

Good luck

[copper crescent]

Good luck

[true shale]

How much of that do you think is lost from UE30 S.Nagisa?

[odd geyser]

if your buffs don't run out, then it's just crit

[odd geyser]

I had 10m lost damage from bad crit with DAru

[true shale]

In that case, I'll practice today until at least 60M

[ripe mason]

what were you aiming for with DAru team

[odd geyser]

cooking 1pan on jp took time/energy from peroro

[marble gust]

even the thought of crit malding bhosh team on lun makes me wanna puke

[odd geyser]

~64m

[true shale]

I'm willing to try one ticket without assembling hit-and-run cleanups, since I have the preservation.

I'll probably UE40 Himari and S.Shiroko too, I think it's worth it.

[odd geyser]

sshiroko is questionable for this raid

[desert sphinx]

what server is this?

[marble gust]

na

[polar orbit]

na

[copper crescent]

na

[polar orbit]

it's gonna be quite close

[worldly sun]

Batman?

[polar orbit]

we need about 19 new tor clears/hour to reach cutoff by reset

which is down from 22 last night, so it means we're moving faster now

[lyric hatch]

I mean so far its about 15 new tors/hr

Ive been keeping track

[true shale]

I'm missing the middle Shiny knock on Wave 2 in my Hinata team. I think it will pay off by cutting down resets.

[west perch]

new shorts

[polar orbit]

so we'll probably hit 4800 or 4900

dang

i believe in the dream though

[lyric hatch]

Yea barely

[odd geyser]

did you calc that

[lyric hatch]

Kinda disappointing

[odd geyser]

with hinata, you just live and die by the crits

[lyric hatch]

Unless people start balding last few hours 👀

[polar orbit]

we should get a boost in the last like 3-4 hours

yeah

[true shale]

No, but it's like 51% HP left. I'm pre~tty sure it will work.

I'm actually hitting with the fish as well, this is.

[odd geyser]

oh okay

[polar orbit]

plus all the asia vpn users who play on NA have likely not upscored yet

[true shale]

Hinata has been somewhat underperforming for me all season, tbh. Does that ring a bell for you too?

[odd geyser]

my 4★ hinata has done more than I could've hoped for bro

[lyric hatch]

We need some top ins clearers to realize theyre fucked and gotta do tor

[polar orbit]

i dont think they will

i think the top 50 there at the minimum are committed

[true shale]

Hmm... I have UE50, but by contrast maybe my expectations were too high.

[odd geyser]

[true shale]

I probably need to review what her ideal buff structure is after the raid.

[odd geyser]

early yesod invest

[polar orbit]

if you scroll through the clears, anyone who borrowed kanoe is 100% not upscoring

that's my prediction

[odd geyser]

somehow, THaruna's basic just magically aligned with every time I wanted to shoot Hinata

[polar orbit]

borrowing kanoe for an insane clear is wild

[lyric hatch]

Why are thry dedicated ins speedrunners?

[polar orbit]

yeah you wouldn't spend that coin if you weren't committed to your clear

[true shale]

That's really interesting. All my past T.Haruna experiments concluded that her basic timing was terrible, but I never tried her with Hinata...

[odd geyser]

I'd try UE30 fish before jumping straight to UE40 lmao

[true shale]

Yeah, I will, haha.

I think I'm prepared to UE40 though, rather than change the team at this stage.

[odd geyser]

the cost situation on that team is just abysmal so I think it just lucked out

[marble gust]

theres dedicated Normal speedrunners

[true shale]

Do you groggy on this team?

[odd geyser]

yes but I can't reliably knock down the left side. There's a reason why it's team 10
I enter with like 75% groggy

[true shale]

So groggy after Wave 1...

I guess that helps with the timing a little

[marble gust]

i think i also screwed myself by using the most subhuman hws ever

3 healerless teams

[odd geyser]

THaruna's heal was also just enough to keep my team on life support to go into 2nd wave if needed

[true shale]

I suppose I discounted it early after seeing that the basic misses the groggy window itself.

[odd geyser]

yeah, it lands on groggy for me

[true shale]

Oh wait, how far does this team get? And how much total damage/ knocks then?

[odd geyser]

I think like 8-10m tops. I forfeited right after groggy on tix b/c shiny hunting was gonna be faster

I'm incapable of building groggy with the team b/c of survival issues

[true shale]

I'll have to remember that. I was a little surprised to run short on AoE healers this season.

[strange ridge]

Kanoe wtf

[lost shell]

depends on backup comps like koharu kasumi broko
i must at least do my groggy beginning at 66%

Double groggy

[odd geyser]

idk if this was a good use of broko but it worked for me

[true shale]

You spent double decoys on a single-wave team? You're a much braver Sensei than I!

[lost shell]

her dps is fine for this so perhaps

[odd geyser]

after cooking with Umika for a bit, I didn't consider Akari a decoy

[lost shell]

Just try to build shiny hunting and let it build some groggy

Significant dmg increase on later teams

[true shale]

My BRoko is over here.

[odd geyser]

I also ran MAris team 2 waves

[true shale]

My Kurokage units are putting in work, haha. More than even I was expecting.

[odd geyser]

I always saw krkg students as gonna be useful in peroro

especially the def downs

[true shale]

Yeah, I thought they were going to be largely cleanup though. I was wrong, they're performing above par.

[marble gust]

😟

[true shale]

Ichika here knocks all Shinies across three waves.

[ripe mason]

shanako is our best option after boshi

[true shale]

I think I can assign this as an overflow team, so she can get some damage on groggy too.

[lost shell]

we all saw the potential
def down works
some purple dpses can make it work
healers do the same

[marble gust]

meanwhile mine

[west perch]

hence why I thought I could do peroro as well

but too much investment

[odd geyser]

what does your hinata look like again?

[odd geyser]

that's actually wild

[true shale]

I have UE50 Hinata, and I still think S.Hanako is doing better.

[odd geyser]

🤝

I don't regret raising her for this ngl

[marble gust]

seia survives with like 10hp at best

[odd geyser]

4★ put in work for making the raid comfier

[marble gust]

if she gets hit by one aa its restart

[lost shell]

hinata simply outscaled bkarin which is somehow sad

[sleek flicker]

You know what else is wild?
The fact she has a very High Attack for a tank

[marble gust]

why would hinata not do better than bkarin

[obsidian heath]

she attacks once every 6.5s

[polar orbit]

blunderbuss moment

[true shale]

It's nice, reminds me of the C.Shiroko main teams on Torment debut.

[lost shell]

they always had a way , much slower attacks
just like momiji

high attack doesnt mean they're strong

[marble gust]

and my hinata

double healerless in a lun run

i wanna puke

[frozen birch]

Kanoe attacks don’t have any AoE right

[obsidian heath]

cheer hibiki used to have the highest atk in the game

[frozen birch]

I know Yuzu autos don’t have AoE but CSena does

Afaik idk if Chise autos have AoE either

[odd geyser]

Yuzu autos ignore cover

it is AoE, just very tiny

[true shale]

Kotori healer still got the moves after all this time

[polar orbit]

1m

[odd geyser]

same as Chise

[true shale]

Kotori isn't in my clear yet, actually.

[marble gust]

kotori dies on nuke and hifumi on 3rd lazer

[odd geyser]

weird urban 2 tech: chise flank

[marble gust]

leaving nyfuuka hinata rot for groggy

genuinely disgusting

whoever came up with this

[lost shell]

u did 167m with missing healer conditions

great already i'd say

[marble gust]

yea

[west perch]

damn I could've tried using Yuzu aa for yellow "aoe" in that 1 challenge

[marble gust]

i did my best

[odd geyser]

#🆚pvp-tactical-challenge message

[true shale]

Sounds like the quad-buffer Hinata team from Torment debut, it seems. That sounds very effective.

[odd geyser]

any 650 (that takes cover, no Toki) could flank that Shun. Chise was interesting b/c she and other GLs ignore cover

[wide basin]

How is ur last 20 pulls in jp

[odd geyser]

bro I still haven't gotten a 3*

[polar orbit]

is this the death of a f2p

[odd geyser]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

[true shale]

I think I chanced upon this in retrospect one time. This is the one where 1st card Shiroko EX could ruin the flank, was it?

[odd geyser]

I didn't have any 650 raised enough to do it consistently

I relied on Aris/Haruna flanks instead

[true shale]

(Shiroko being the other Urban SS option at the time)

[calm flicker]

[odd geyser]

whoops, aris was for d2 shun

[calm flicker]

https://fixupx.com/yuzubluearchive/status/2015571441467699428?s=46&t=WsGo37AsfssADO1jgHjPQQ

Yuzu Archive (@YuzuBlueArchive)

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FixupX · Jan 25, 2026, 11:44 PM

[median lotus]

Is ue 40 bhoshino enough for 1st torment

[proven dove]

Afaik two more resets for final 20 pulls in jp

[proven dove]

For clear yes

[calm flicker]

Was it 7 day or 9 day banner schedule?

[polar orbit]

asia is the easiest server pretty sure

[median lotus]

Cause I'll borrow ue 40 NY kayoko

[proven dove]

9, with 20 only on the 9th

[calm flicker]

*Asia, excluding JP/KR/CN/TW

[polar orbit]

well those are different servers yea

[proven dove]

3* kayoko also is enough for torment clear.

[median lotus]

Bro she'll not survive for 30 seconds

[calm flicker]

If one day, Nexon merge all Asia servers into one (not including JP)

Boy

It's gonna be a sweatfest

[round kayak]

not when you are actively chasing 2 digits

[frozen chasm]

shinji get in the robot

[round kayak]

😔

[west perch]

just do luna

it's that easy

[polar orbit]

🦖 🐳

[true shale]

Fascinating I knew nothing of this.

[proven dove]

If she's built 3* is enough, but you need to position her right.

I'd advise you to watch a hw with units you have and follow rotation :3

[west perch]

wonder how many luna gebs asia is gonna get next round

[frozen chasm]

also we're fuckign doomed

[odd geyser]

it ultimately made sense to stop using Aris when I finally got UE50 Haruna

[round kayak]

lot of people still hate geburah so maybe not that many

[strange ridge]

We are going to fucking die

[proven dove]

My clear uses 3* kayoko

[true shale]

I didn't know that Aris saw any use in post-Iroha of that season, tbh