🔋gameplay

[slate cairn]

Well now I feel bad that we have recliners and heated seats out here

[velvet valley]

My theater doesn't have heated seats but it's cool. We do have reclining but I can't stand it too long

Still better than this though

[dreamy aspen]

Jumping in way late here but YES. Right now the only way to really contest an inside shot is by jumping, and with jumping you're forced to guess the exact right move on which the opponent is going up. If you don't jump, it's in, but if you do jump and it was, say, pump fake number four, you're giving up the bucket most of the time anyway. Another potential solution is to force a traveling animation after too many pump fakes, but that feels a hair band-aid esque.

[weary linden]

I would like if the bail out badge was either removed or adjusted in 2K23. In theory, this badge makes sense, but the way it works in game is probably not how it was intended to work. On gold or hall of fame, this badge is extremely powerful. A player can attempt poor jump shots and pass out of them without virtually any penalty. This badge works well for MyPlayer because players have to allocate badge points, so a lot of players may not have this badge higher than bronze. However, in MyTeam, most cards in the game have the badge on at least gold and it is annoying to play against. A person being able to throw a pinpoint accurate bail out pass without getting punished after I have played elite defense is not an enjoyable game play mechanic.

[grand onyx]

fax the badge needs a rework

[weary wadi]

I'll throw this out there about badges in general (ignore any needs of nerfing or buffing). There should be an actual difference for going between level and in most cases either a liner progression from Bronze to HOF or linear to Gold and maybe 1.5 jump to HOF.

For too many badges, there is no benefit to Silver or even Gold. That most any build will have Bronze Dimer and it provides a nearly identical boost as Silver and Gold is one of the many reasons shooting is easier in 22.

Build that can get Silver Dimer and use it, should have an advantage over those that can only get up to Bronze

[graceful tinsel]

Agreed, idk what the point of some of the badges being better at lower tiers is? It feels unintentional by design. Every badge should be at least 10 percentage points better than the lower tier. This would help with balance as well.

Have y'all seen the ball stripper stats? It's nonsense it gets like 1 percent better from bronze to HOF.

[zenith marsh]

It would be nice if we had the stats for the badges in the game as part of their description somehow

[weary wadi]

I have, and yes that's a perfect example

[weary linden]

Yes! It's kind of odd that users have to go to third party sources, like 2K Labs, to find out exactly what a badge does, how effective the badge is in-game, and how increasing the badge tier (bronze, silver, gold, hof) changes the badge.

[zenith marsh]

Would prefer it comes directly from the devs. Could be an opportunity to be more open/transparent about the balance changes. Kind of basing this off of playing Smite. Don't know if VC would have a team dedicated to balancing and reporting changes year round. Sometimes their changes don't work out like they planned/wanted but player testing works with having those discussions. I think NBA2k could embrace some MOBA thinking/approaches for some of the online modes.

[weary linden]

Absolutely. I also play games like Smite and Dota. In those games, specific numbers are used for items and abilities that are extremely helpful.

[ancient nimbus]

What do you all think about specific dribbling animations being tied to for example a 90-95 ball handle next year? Moves that are very good of course and would make alot of people think harder about making a play shot or a pure play cause theres almost no reason to make a pure play cause you can make a play shot and still get the over 85 ball handle moves and get the hof shooting

I think a good idea for limitless takeoff or whatever the badges name is next year if it survives is to show on the dunk package animations which level of the badge you need to do the dunks

[weary wadi]

I think this would be a very good idea. There should still be very good animations available at the 80 level, but unlocking the premium best ones at 90 will definitly encourage a pure play as an option. More build variety leads to a better game.

[ancient nimbus]

Exactly! Hit it on the nail

[weary wadi]

This is a fire idea.

It would be nice if we could select which dunks in each package we really want. Also, and this is important, can the what seem like default dunks that happen but aren't in any package be removed from the game?

[dreamy aspen]

My biggest Next Gen gameplay gripe has to be the lack of a quick cut mechanic. Even Full Receiver Control feels clunky compared to the old Y cut. If my opponent is choking off the three point line, I should be able to run back door on them quickly and easily. On next gen it is far too cumbersome

[weary wadi]

Agreed, and I found calling plays much more intuitive on current. Maybe with more play I'd get used to it, but I'm not playing much MyTeam in 22.

[velvet valley]

Haven't played MyTeam at all

[dreamy aspen]

MyTeam it's especially cumbersome to call plays. Since so many people run presses, I'm basically losing half my offense because it takes so long to just call a play that's not first or second on my play sheet

[ashen lynx]

There needs to be a mercy rule

Even if it was 35 points, it'd save a lot of people a lot of time

[dreamy aspen]

In tournament play absolutely, regular games I don't know so much. As long as one opponent isn't griefing the other with elongated timeouts (which should have a mechanism in and of themselves if there are multiple and they're repeated), there are many good reasons to stay in a game even if you're getting trounced. Can always learn a thing or two from it

[lofty mango]

If the last 250k tourney showed us anything, it’s that a mercy rule isn’t needed in tournaments imo. A few examples of this: Ty came back down 15-20 plus on both gens in the first round and while Splash lost, he did come back from a 25 point deficit against Jin to lose by like 5.

[ashen lynx]

My idea of a good mercy rule is to target griefing. I wouldn't want a 25 point mercy rule but I would want a 40 point one. Yes, you can learn a lot from a loss but at a certain point, it gets out of hand.

Another thing, just based on experience, it seems like pulling the chair successfully is 100% based on luck

height, weight, badges, attributes, or timing has never changed my success rate in pulling the chair

Maybe add a pull the chair badge or tie that game mechanic with post-move lockdown? Or add some sort of timing to it

[dreamy aspen]

Yeah sorry, I worded it poorly. When I said tournaments I was thinking more about qualifying, where players got DQ'd because of a lack of mercy rule, in part

[lofty mango]

Oh true, I definitely agree with that.

[zenith marsh]

I know in Smite they have forfeits. Only available after the match has gone on for 5 to 10 minutes and requires majority to go through. If people quit out it requires less votes. Could be an alternative to a mercy rule

[ashen lynx]

It'd also be nice if controller settings saved

[lofty mango]

Controller settings do save (in MyTeam at least). What console/gen are you on?

[ashen lynx]

Xbox series x/s. Everytime I dashboard I have to do my controller settings again

[lofty mango]

Weird. I’m on PS, was on current gen until yesterday and my settings still save on both gens as long as I do them in the controller settings either on the main/home menu or in MyTeam. I know they don’t save if you pause and do the settings while in an online game in MyTeam.

That reminds me, I really hope 2k makes it possible for my defensive and offensive settings to save in MyTeam so I don’t have to change them every game.

I’m new to next gen and noticed there were presets. Maybe make it possible for me to create a custom preset of my own and have it save?

[ashen lynx]

that would be so nice

Hot spot indicators would be nice too

In older 2ks, the circle beneath u would light up red when u were on a hot spot/ blue if ur on a cold spot

with hot spots constantly changing in park / pro am, i'd like to see this return

[lofty mango]

Ohhh, that’s gone? I thought it was just that I couldn’t see it because my eyesight is getting worse 😂

[dusk vessel]

Old Head

[lofty mango]

I’m 22 😂

[ashen lynx]

they also took out the penalty for spamming reach in the passing lanes

before ur takeover meter would go down just a little for every reach

u could even get cold for doing it too much

the only exception was for lockdowns and rim protectors

now, everyone can spam reach in the passing lanes for the whole possession with no penalty

[dreamy aspen]

Along these lines, offensive and defensive settings as well. You can change them to your heart's delight before the game in MyNBA, but not in something like MyTeam

[lofty mango]

100%, I said this as well yesterday, really hoping we’ll be able to save offensive and defensive settings in the future

[dreamy aspen]

D'oh. I missed that you said that 😂

[lofty mango]

No worries lol

[weak bramble]

Is this it

Also I think people should be able to choose there jumpshot splash for instance the splat one that’s my favorite one and I’d love for it too come back

And I think people should be able to choose there jumpshot meter Bc some ppl like the 20 and 19 jumpshot meter better than the 22 one or some ppl like the 21 meter better and some ppl like the 18 meter better u get what I’m saying no disrespect still 🖤

[lucid salmon]

the only thing i ask for is that they please tweak the interior defense

[weak bramble]

Also one more thing this may sound disrespectful but I swear it’s not there is no way Ronnie and mikewang play and think paint defense is fair

[lucid salmon]

nah i dont blame em there working on other things

like the yellow contest almost always go in and the step back too

[weak bramble]

Because sometimes I’ll hold my hands up and get 50 contest other times it’s 6%😂

[lucid salmon]

same

all around everything just feels too easy

[weak bramble]

Even on my glass lock that’s 6’11 with hof intimidator

[lucid salmon]

like its too the point to where im having to try on less competitive ppl because everything goes in

[weak bramble]

And last thing I feel like if I get a contact animation it shouldn’t bounce out Bc I rarely get them and everytime a slashing playmaker gets one it goes in and I have a 98 driving dunk on my gcf

[crisp delta]

In the next 2k they should make it to where you can refund builds to get vc back

[velvet valley]

agreed

[crisp delta]

but you have 1 or 2 refund tickets so people dont always refund builds like crazy

[velvet valley]

that's good too

[woeful gale]

Make it to where next season title is called back to the neighborhood and the 40 reward you get a uzi and Glock and if you get hard fouled or lose you can shoot them and they lose attributes for that game only

Or add fight animations

You feel me

[crisp delta]

oh god thats how you get banned

or sued

[floral shadow]

I would like to see the next 2k mycareer builds be more of a grind to where how you play unlocks specific badges and the ability to do that move based off a more even between attributes and badges. I want the grind of myplayer progression to mean something instead of being able to make a build and complete it in two weeks or less. Also would like to see more fluid input action on pro stick making defense and offense more real feel and less animation played designated by direction pressed. (I mean more hand arm directional control of player.) I also like the seasons xp progression set up but think that the requirement to get to legend should be increased or the levels in season should be increased and see more myplayer progression stuff in mycareer seasons and leave the my team to a minimum. Also on a side please have the next 2k nba store have every legend Jersey or use them as seasonal level rewards. Thanks for the read and ur time 2k Dev Team

[lapis ferry]

This is a perfect example of how 2k can't please everyone, cause the last thing I want is for the game to be more of a grind. I have no desire to get home from a long day at work just to hop on the game and do more work.

[lapis ferry]

And to be clear, I'm not saying either side is right or wrong. It's just difficult to find a way to please both groups of people.

[graceful tinsel]

Tell that to all the people who had the season pass at extraordinarily low exp to start this season because it's easily attainable for people who can play 24/7.

I'm glad they increased it again but at the beginning of this season I didn't even hit level 2 off of my first rec game and I dropped 25 with an A+.

It is difficult to please everyone but I do think if you actively play the game it shouldn't be unattainable to reach legend for anyone that isn't making money from playing.

[lapis ferry]

The discussion is pertaining to MyPlayer progression like badges and overall. Not XP or rep.

[left tangle]

So would you prefer minimal MyPLAYER grind, but extended XP grind?

[lapis ferry]

Yes to the minimal MyPlayer grind, but I don't necessarily want an extended XP grind. I like the fact that I was able to actually hit Legend this year as it wasn't really realistic for someone with a full time job before. But I do think there should be something more to strive for for the people who do have more time. As long as it's something that doesn't give a competitive advantage. That's another one where it's difficult to please both sides.

For example, don't mind that I was never able to get mascots before. I'm fine if that's reserved for people who put in an abnormal amount of time on the game. But I did mind the 10 extra badge points. Someone shouldn't get that significant of an advantage just because I'm at work 9 hours a day.

That's why I like Geevee's idea for Mascot quests. Things like scoring 38,387 points in the park and rec for the Lakers Mascot. Get 3830 blocks for the Rockets one. 1000 alley oops for the Clippers mascot. You could even throw in something for the offline players like win 11 championships for the Celtics. Something to keep the game interesting for a longer period and have people grinding for different goals.

[left tangle]

I’ve heard the exact opposite of this as well, definitely tough.

[lapis ferry]

Lol yup. Exactly why I say it's impossible to please everyone. Not an enviable task

[left tangle]

I do like the mascot quests idea though, has something for everyone. Putting that at the top of my notes!

[ancient nimbus]

Mascot quests is a great idea

honestly i really like the idea of if everyone cant grind to mascots they can grind a certain thing to earn atleast 1 to wear if they want one and the same for other rewards

[jolly thicket]

There’s so much to say 😮‍💨 this conversation could go on for years

[lapis ferry]

I also feel like they'd be more meaningful than just regular mascots. I wouldn't care about a Bucks mascot right now, but if I needed to grab 23,000 boards to get one, then all of a sudden it has meaning to me. It's a symbol that I'm actually the board man

[graceful tinsel]

I got that this was just chiming in on how I agree that grinding shouldn't have that much of an affect on the game as a whole. Whether that be My player progression, or seasons. Making it more difficult would have a negative effect for those who don't have the time to do it and turn people away. Unless as you were saying it was for something that doesn't give a competitive advantage.

[primal needle]

It also helps that they split the XP and build grinds from each other, and each have progressively gotten easier year after year. Remember in 2k19 and before, where they were tied together so it would take literal months of MyCareer grind to hit 99/Legend on just a single build? 😭 Only a couple hundred people would even bother.

I think the way they have it now set up is perfect, imo. You can have multiple builds with purpose to fit teams together with friends or just even moods, and you get rewarded from just playing the game. Problem is that now it’s more casual friendly, the hardcore players blow through to Level 40 at an extreme rate. They should probably incorporate Beyond Level 40 stuff like they have been with MyTeam in recent seasons even dating back to 2k21.

[ashen lynx]

There should be an incentive to play someone on a win streak

and if u play the same person more than 5 times within 24 hours you both shouldn't be able to get XP off each other for the remainder of the day

[lofty mango]

I don’t play park this year but I used to run it back against a squad to try to beat them or vice versa in past 2ks. I found that pretty fun personally but I assume your reasoning has to do with people who boost?

[ashen lynx]

Correct

[violet shuttle]

Hey I feel like 2k should add more ways to get vc like if I play the game and good at it they should make it where we ply for accolades then we can get endorsements deals for the park but they last for couple days or weeks or month game time and then they should add a mode called king of the court it’s similar to 1v1 but instead of playing one player till 21 you play 21 people to win the king of the courts which you win vc skill boost and etc then they need to either add two recs one with randoms or squad or what they can do is have it like we going to YMCA have it where we can choose or clothes either as a team or freestyle like nba jerseys skin vs shirts mascots or even your clothes you buy bump if it’s confusion it’s the freedom that players will have them fix the quitting make players who quit can’t get on the game all day or shoot your build down by a lot make it where players do not want to quit we need to add lil bit more to the my player mode to some players still love that mode to

[velvet valley]

they won't want to do that because that's less incentive to buyVCs

[violet shuttle]

What about the others things I said what you think about that

[velvet valley]

how do you play 21 players?

[crisp delta]

in the next 2k they should make it to where you can refund builds to get vc back but you have 1 or 2 refund tickets so people dont always refund builds like crazy

[lofty mango]

Can we please get defensive settings like the full court press and smother/tight, etc back in TTO on next gen? I’m not sure as to why it was taken out since it is on current gen.

[graceful tinsel]

They are a business first. This could never happen.

[violet shuttle]

King of the court like you need to have over 60 win percent to participate in it and you play people till you reach 21 and you win vc skill boost other items.

They need to make inside defense make sense 52 contested should mean something

Need more ways to make vc sense it’s so expensive to play this game and it’s a competitive game so 2k adding more modes that equal with your my player mode would be cool like a spin off idk something to make us get more vc to spend back to the game and 2k stop taxing us to play your game how do we have to pay 100 dollars tax to play on a court in stage I’m already paying to play on court then paying for boost then paying for the build what else do you want from me

[velvet valley]

they make it expensive on purpose to make more profit though

[dreamy aspen]

I will be honest though: MLB the Show's model with stubs makes me feel like a universal currency would be far better, since it's earned in every game you play regardless of mode, and you do still retain the option to purchase if you do choose to do so

[velvet valley]

That would be the dream

[violet shuttle]

What about my career online like you create a my player but then you can have either free roam of the team or focus on your player and you can ply against other my players teams it’s like a my league but with your my players you have meetings press conference endorsements etc my career online

[lucid salmon]

honestly i feel like every thing to make you player better should be a easir grind but no payed advantages and make all the extra stuff like cosmetics should be a grind to earn or pay for those

and it would be cool if we had a option to choose the battle pass or legend grind kinda like how the endorsement choice is

you guys should do how nba live does player grind and do it that eay it would be perfect

and the next 2k should be a little less arcadey more realistic but stil god dribble combos just nothing too crazy where it will be meta Ex: Stepback to the paint.

good dribble combos

shoot should be the same but tweak the amount of whites go in based on each play 3 point,tenedecies,build and the amount of defense being played. a 2 way with a 65 3 should not be able to shoot greens consistelety nor should they make more than 2 whites a game no matter what boost or anything

[daring elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-gif-14742755

[dreamy aspen]

It's wild but what I've always thought would be really fun is something like:

You enter into MyCareer, select your college and play five or so games as your selected college with four other users from the same college against five from a different one.

You get "drafted" based on your performance, with something in the algorithm trying to ensure even distribution of teams

You then enter into games paired with at least 2 others from your NBA team (ensuring, again, that the other team has the same number) and are able to play out a "season" of some sort.

I know that's like... Basically impossible and whatnot. That's kinda the dream though 🤣

[viral marsh]

I like that you are able to block dunks/put back dunks. But. I think that the foul calls should be called more on the block attempts where a player is going for a block contest and force your player to brick the dunk when they jump in the air on your body without touching the ball. I feel like dunking would be more balanced if defenders were punished more for going for late contests that 9/10 would draw a foul.

I’m a big defense head. But I think that it’s not rewarding the offense for dunking when the defensive player is being rewarded for playing late/out of the play defense.

I am a defensive head. Early in the game I thought interception was way too op. I think that defense overall is ok 👍 . I just think at times players are not being rewarded for using the dunk meter when the defensive player is fouling them on a late contest. I feel like defense could be great if you were able to draw fouls against people going for late contest.

[ashen lynx]

I like the way dunking works, especially when you compare it to older 2ks. I feel like dunking being something more difficult to pull off is better for 2k. If you bring in fouls into the equation it would happen too often. We've seen this in 2k18 when fast-break dunks were and 1s because people love to jump.

[violet shuttle]

This would be epic if they tried something like this with me I’m the type who love to ply all the game modes not just one so my career was my main thing before I got into park last 2k which was 2k21 I always was playing quick games and my leagues you know so for someone who was like me they should add more to them type of modes

[high matrix]

Can we please make the pro am like an actual arena and have like different nba players come and watch and for the 3v3 pro am they can be in different places like Venice Beach or Dyckman or different places like that

[unborn bloom]

@high matrix pro am mode does need some love

In 2k16 we had fully customizable pro am arenas. The last 6 years has been a full downgrade

[high matrix]

I’m new to 2k I just felt like they could do some much with pro am

[unborn bloom]

I’ve been around since the beginning which is why I’m so frustrated lol

[high matrix]

Lml I feel that but pro am needs a full size like nba arena

And the 3v3 courts ohh man they could turn that up

[unborn bloom]

Bro we went from full arenas, weekly leaderboards, and 250k tournaments to the nonsense we have today

[high matrix]

They gotta bring that back who are they talking to please hire me I will get them right

[unborn bloom]

We ain’t even got a ball rack no more 😂😂😂😂

[high matrix]

Lmao that’s wild

[dusk vessel]

Pro am is the mode that needs a refresh the most

[high matrix]

I’m tryna tell you full arenas and 3v3 at different parks would be lit

[dusk vessel]

Make it a real proam, like live had

[high matrix]

Fasho

[bleak hatch]

Yes same here. It's so annoying.

[ancient nimbus]

oi gm m8

[onyx rock]

What was in the update this morning

[graceful tinsel]

The slider update?

The world may never know.

[lofty mango]

What update?

[left tangle]

There wasn't a patch update today. The daily "return to main menu" updates are various behind the scenes changes, like store updates. Very rarely do those include changes that affect basketball gameplay.

[dreamy aspen]

I think that was still there in 17 iirc. That was a really awesome touch

[lofty mango]

Thanks! I’m at work so I was hoping there would be no update for me when I got home lol

[velvet valley]

Those are so annoying, because why do they get to keep showing in a game?

[graceful tinsel]

Huh, welp I always assumed sliders but that's good to know.

[violet shuttle]

Let us design clothes pants like make them tshirts shorts head bands arm bands etc

[ancient nimbus]

Goodmorning yall!

or afternoon lol

[dreamy aspen]

Been running with the Princeton Chin Freelance lately. Probably my favorite part of it has been this spacing, rejecting the main branches but swinging the ball across the top for the two man game. Bol knocks down the corner three off of it 🙂

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/AXMELN49

[violet shuttle]

Hey 2k just been talking with my friends and y’all should make a wnba my career and my park if not add the wnba players to play in park to bring woman to the game and hey let’s make the building system way more better to

7 am in the morning LA time boys good morning have bless day and give some ideas on what 2k should add

[violet shuttle]

Yo just thought about this 2k done stole every basketball game idea nba baller had a my career mode first ever to do it streetball had a takeover system first to do it espn had better graphic then 2k n nba in they prime nfl n nba version so 2k I say this maybe the reason why the game is going down is because y’all never had y’all own ideas always someone else’s so I’m need to see something new cause when y’all came up with something new people complain now so show me y’all special cause to me y’all users right now

[grizzled plover]

Would definitely love to see female players in the park. I can agree with that.

[ancient nimbus]

GM

[graceful tinsel]

I dont really understand their reasoning for not just having female characters do the exact same thing as the men.

It's an odd place to draw a line at when you can shoot almost 80% from the 3 with regularity. The game isn't sim and hasn't been for years.

[grizzled plover]

It’s definitely a topic that I could go on and on about lol. @solid river has listened to me rant about it a few times 😂❤️

[solid river]

Most definitely something that needs to happen in the future. While I don't sit on dev and don't know the plans for the future, this is definitely something brought up and discussed internally.

[solid river]

And a topic that you have every right to rant on, @grizzled plover! Really hope we see this sooner than later. ❤️

[cosmic gust]

Yes. And WNBA players in MyTeam.

[violet shuttle]

Yeah man definitely a good idea to a lot of things 2k can attack like take it back to espn days when they was making games give us the variety of things to do here and bring more life to my career then just a story line give people more

[velvet valley]

with fair ratings I hope

[cosmic gust]

If Ronnie is an 88, no ratings are fair.

[velvet valley]

true, he's too high, but no reason why we can't get DM WNBA players and etc

[slim comet]

wnba mycareer

[lucid salmon]

can we please get a boost to how much rep u get on current gen

i get 7% rep on a good rec game while my friend on next gen get 20% rep on a rec game and we are both the same level and had very good stats

[ancient nimbus]

Gooooodmorning

[ancient nimbus]

women myplayers would be an amazing addition

everyone wins there

@solid river are conversations in this discord allowed to be put into my news vids?

[lucid salmon]

can you guys please look into interior defense on current gen

[left tangle]

As a general answer, yes, but please keep in mind the context that convos in this Discord are just a discussion, not breaking news.

[solid river]

To be clear, nothing is being said on this topic. All I’m saying is we’re aware of the feedback.

[ancient nimbus]

i know lol

[ancient nimbus]

appreciate the responses from both of you

[violet shuttle]

Hey 2k what or we gonna do about my Gm modes and my league let’s not forget what 2k came from before y’all had my career the game was fun to play as a whole so just want y’all to sit and go back to when the game was actually fun to play with friends and family not just park and career I feel like y’all don’t understand how big y’all mark is in the gaming community y’all like or GTA for basketball so we Been waiting patiently and we wanna see some results and effort in 2k23 I wanna see that y’all tried y’all best I went back to 2k21 and I need to see diffrent graphics from 2k22 from 2k23 I wanna see some new feature I wanna see some locker room talk some game plan break down some in the locker room moments when a team down come on add some story line to just everything the game base on let us control or narrative

[violet shuttle]

I’m not gonna lie they responded to me multiple times gang gotta just keep writing they even level me up a level to but they responded twice to me

[lucid salmon]

oh

[violet shuttle]

Yup

[ancient nimbus]

mornin m8

[violet shuttle]

Morning 2k warzone out here making changes with they game to get better hoping y’all doing the same this moment don’t get lazy

[dreamy aspen]

Imo, I'd be more about a separate WNBA MyTeam mode than adding them to the regular player pool. It would actually be a very welcome addition, because in my experience with the WNBA modes in game, they play extremely realistically, even with higher stats and badge tiers. My main issue with MyTeam right now is the lack of realism, and adding in unrealistically rated WNBA players wouldn't really solve the issue. A separate MyTeam build, however, and I'd play the heck outta that when things get outlandish in MyTeam.

In park though, I'd generally have no issue with that. NBA Live implemented that and there was absolutely no issue

[violet shuttle]

They just commented on this when I wrote about it they said it been in the talks a lot lately to bring woman into the my player mode it will bring so much more option to the game

Plus 2k should put in on the 1v1 court and the 2v2 court when the person score the other person get the ball or the other team will make it even more of a defensive mode

[dreamy aspen]

Yeah, like I said, Live did it and it was actually a pretty neat touch I thought!

[ancient nimbus]

i think a great idea for 2k would be to have a ranked system like cods league play or apexs ranked mode what do yall think?

seperate from playing park. it would be like a matchmaking thing

[graceful tinsel]

It would be difficult to implement but would make games more competitive, which is sorely needed.

[ancient nimbus]

fr

gm ya!

[lapis ferry]

Wouldn't mind it for Pro Am, but I definitely think it shouldn't be added to Rec. Sometimes I just want to lean back with my boys and beat teams by 30. With SBMM we'd be going against sweats every game and that gets old. The biggest thing to me is incentivizing comp play. So if you're moving up tiers in Pro Am you should be rewarded with more rep, progression, VC, etc. Scoring 12 points in a highly ranked Pro Am game should give more rep than scoring 30 against randoms in the Rec.

[gentle citrus]

Wouldn’t it be a great idea to have a casual and ranked system in pro am and rec but people have to play a certain amount of games to play competitive so people isn’t getting sold by people who don’t know what they are doing

[raw forge]

Match Making 2's 2v2 Pro-am

I'd love to see it

[violet shuttle]

Hey 2k this game is to expensive to ply like really to expensive to play if you not a grown up i have other builds but what about the kids who can’t play your game cause kids won’t ply cause it’s cost 55,660 vc to put up two attributes that’s crazy like if vc didn’t cost that much it would be affordable and everyone will get vc but not when it’s cost so much

Again it’s time to add in playing against Xbox players to call of duty do it y’all gotta fix y’all service to have one game mode at least where we can connect with the other system cause that would be more diversity between Xbox and PlayStation like Iknow PlayStation gonna kill Xbox they controllers to far apart from each other but we need more we love 2k y’all the game to beat so turn it up man get us something we never thought y’all would do

[crisp delta]

lol

[violet shuttle]

2k reward the streak beaters just like you get a shirt off for streaking if I get in a park and It’s streaks going on and you blowing all the fire out on the courts that need to be a shirt a fire extinguisher logo or something to show people we taking streaks and we on a streak to idk if I’m explaining what I’m thinking right but this best I can explain it

[violet shuttle]

Just thinking while playing instead on moat or in the city playing to 21 make it two or one two min quarter

[dense eagle]

I think fixing actual gameplay might be a better use of their time... but cool idea... you should also get something for a higher streak rather than a longer wait time for next game but circling back to original, id rather have better gameplay

[viral marsh]

I like shooting in its current state. The green window is perfect. I think it’s nice that everyone can shoot. But my one issue with shooting is sniper. I think that sniper needs to be removed. But the current sliders/green window is great were it’s at.

[weary wadi]

Sniper only makes sense AT ALL, if the penalty for being outside of the slightly window (which is pretty much the green window) is significant, making it very hard to make shots with poor timing. And the boost needs to be nerfed, there is no justification for one badge to boost by 15% at HOF, maybe 1-2% per level

And other thing in general, something I may have mention a ways back. The boost from badges needs to be noticeable between levels and probably linear with maybe the boost between Gold/HOF being 1.5x the rest. It should be that Bronze Dimer is basically the same as Silver and Gold. for example.

[violet shuttle]

Hey 2k what about bringing back salary instead of vc we don’t make that much vc off of things in 22 this year I think y’all was catering to all the wack players and everyone but next year y’all should make it more of a you need to have skills to compete it need to be more comp modes where comp players can go and meet other comp players good players hate getting sold by trash randoms make you don’t even wanna play the game need to be skill base something man wp should mean something me winning most of time should mean something me being a player who want to have fun and win I don’t play unless I have players to run with cause the randoms or so weird and diffrent and just do anything so this season 5 was the most weirdest season yet definitely need something different 23 and rest of these season

[supple storm]

2k you need to add a bench in the rec so if you have more then 5 friends on you guys can all play and have. But you should be able to vote as a team for your coach that make all the in game adjustments like plays who yo guard who is starting who is substituting. Rec right now is really doll and has been the same for 3 years it’s Time to make so cool adjustment to make it fun again

[dusk vessel]

You know Visual Concepts exists to make money, right? Why would they drop VC?

[velvet valley]

yeah, if anything they'll make it more expensive and force you to buy VCs to level up

[violet shuttle]

2k listen to the people who still play your game everyday still y’all got to come hard in 2k23 I been playing this game for long time and I don’t find it fun like that anymore I been plying 2k for so long it’s the only game I ply so that’s why I wanna see them get better and lower the price 2k prices use to be luv bruv

[dusk vessel]

You still on old gen? Because next gen is a way better game

[velvet valley]

barely

[dusk vessel]

That’s subjective

[violet shuttle]

Both I got both gen bro and no it’s not that’s your opinion not a fact you can’t even prove that next gen is better the. Current just cause content creators say it’s better don’t make it

Anybody can ply defense on next gen

[velvet valley]

so is you saying next gen is way better

[dusk vessel]

Yes. Technically it’s a much better representation of the game of basketball

[violet shuttle]

Current gen ain’t no better

[violet shuttle]

Ok ok I can agree to that

[velvet valley]

so not that much better

[dusk vessel]

It’s a basketball simulation video game. So… better representation of basketball makes it a better game IMHO

[violet shuttle]

Basically but us being able to comment on things that’s what gonna make the game better

[velvet valley]

doubt it, they don't seem to care

[violet shuttle]

You ain’t say nothing wrong right there feel the same about that

[violet shuttle]

Let’s hope they change

[dusk vessel]

it’s not perfect, but it’s the best game of basketball we’ve had in a decade

[violet shuttle]

Yeah it is lol facts

[dusk vessel]

You don’t think the devs that work 18 hour days care about making the best version of basketball they can? You really believe that?

[velvet valley]

I know that.

[dusk vessel]

You know what?

[velvet valley]

doesn't seem like it, it's gotten worse

[dusk vessel]

Explain what’s gotten “worse” in detail

[velvet valley]

they end up breaking one thing or another every year

I don't care to explain and play the contradiction game

[violet shuttle]

Yeah bro not gonna lie go back if you still got your old game system go back and play every 2k from espn n tell me 2k ain’t come a long way

[violet shuttle]

Fee you bro but we just writing about the game let’s talk about it

[velvet valley]

graphic-wise for sure

[dusk vessel]

You got it then

[velvet valley]

been doing it almost every year that I just don't care to keep doing it

[violet shuttle]

Lol yeah can’t say nothing there

[dusk vessel]

Well now you’re in an official NBA2K discord with actual developers watching who can make changes in the game and you don’t care to explain. Make it make sense

[velvet valley]

I just wish they didn't break one aspect of gameplay somehow

[velvet valley]

.... it makes sense.

[violet shuttle]

Yeah M3j you might can bring something to the game they respond back they wrote me back and I got a shout out in laker plug video so things will be talked about if other can agree and relate to it

[velvet valley]

on the forum or here?

[violet shuttle]

Yeah In this chat they wrote me back and laker fan shouted me out and show what they responded and said back to me

[velvet valley]

oooh nice

[violet shuttle]

2k Corey wrote me back and responded to one of my request and said that they been talking and chatting about adding woman into the game full time etc I said more then that to

[velvet valley]

did they menetion fixing opponent AI?

[violet shuttle]

Yeah it fells cool to be Hurd and nooo they need to yoo you should say something about that

And the more you talk In Here you move up level and more will see your stuff to I’m at level 3 right now

[velvet valley]

it does, but will they do anything about it? I've been bringing up the bias towards opponent AI for years

[dusk vessel]

Who have you been bringing it up to for years? You have conversations with devs?

[velvet valley]

this should help you guess

[violet shuttle]

Hopefully they will hear us this time but they hired us when we ask for a parrot tho bro we as 2k asked for that and forgot we asked for that and 2k was only listening to the content creators cause they was the only one voicing they opinions on Video but I hope they do big change to the game and bring some real feel to it like a first player mode just diffrent aspect of the game to give it diffrent feels something new need to happen 2k

[velvet valley]

they asked us many times on the forum each other, and it looked like they didn't really care to listein

[violet shuttle]

Pro am 2v2

[viral marsh]

I kind of dislike how people say mashing is fake. But the greatest big men in the game mashed each other. IE keem vs drob in the WCF. Drob couldn’t hold keem in the paint.

[dusk vessel]

In 2K22 you can play your own style of basketball, no need to play a meta

[viral marsh]

Yeah. I agree. The middy game is underrated this year. It’s probably the easiest spot green shooting fades in.

[dusk vessel]

Moves that you can pull off this year, weren’t available in previous 2K’s unless your stick skill was immaculate

[viral marsh]

Literally 😂. I like that I can play like Kobe in the middy while being able to shoot and score from all 3 levels in whatever situation I need score.

I think next gen is balanced

My only gripe is sniper

Defense is great. Dribbling is great

A lot of the left righters got exposed. And now there are a handful of pgs who can actually playmake.

Im ok with that since you need the stick skill to play pg in the 1st place.

I’ve had to learn how to dribble since I got flustered with pgs I played in rec and just made a pg build and learned all the dribble moves everyone used. I have like a 65% in rec with randoms.

Overall I feel the game is balanced.

I’ve made 7 builds and completely almost maxed out all of them. They all do there own thing. And you can really make whatever you want with any position.

This is honestly one of the best 2ks we’ve had in a while.

I’ve been playing since 2k11.

And this one is like my top 5 all time 2ks

[dreamy aspen]

I'd slightly disagree, as I honestly felt like 2k16 played an even better game of basketball, but that could just be nostalgia. Definitely agree with the overall point though

[dreamy aspen]

I'd say that it's slightly different in that D-Rob and Hakeem weren't up faking five times just hoping to God that the other would jump to give them an opportunity and/or that they'd hit the layup over outstretched arms of a disciplined defender anyway, but I generally agree

[dreamy aspen]

Especially here

[violet shuttle]

2k come on man like wtf this event is trash 5 min quarter 4 quarters at that then when teams quit you have to stay the whole game the rep suck then it’s messing up people who hitting 40 they not able to get they mascot yet it’s saying the 2k service is unavailable for a lot of people. Y’all must don’t wanna make no more money y’all must want NBA Live to make a come back y’all better start bringing back events like court gods and different cool events that make sense this one was way worst then fire n ice fire n ice was iight but this one suck and definitely had mad people yawning saying it’s boring like cmon 2k tss I already know next season gonna be 💩

[velvet valley]

why not delete the message too?

[grizzled plover]

Was getting there... thx

[velvet valley]

wow I have power

np Kat. Were you the one that warned him?

[velvet valley]

was just wondering because I thought it was automatic and hence why I was wondering why it didn't delete the message like it did in Ronnie's server

[violet shuttle]

Do you guys think 2k gonna give us the nba mascots and what do you think will be the level 40 reward?

[weary wadi]

Yes, at some point in 2K22 we will get NBA mascots. Hopefully season 6. For me it's probably the only prize that would motivate me to want to go past 39. That and some build type reward.

[median turret]

Has anyone found a solution to the shot meter and other settings not saving so every time you turn the game on you have to reset your settings?

[grim mason]

hi

[graceful tinsel]

It shouldn't reset unless you are making your adjustments in the lobby/game. In that case any time you close the game you would have to reset it. Do it from the main menu and you should be alright.

[dreamy aspen]

Random thought, but has there been any movement on returning the Y/Triangle backdoor cut to its last gen state in the next gen game? That's been missing the past two years and it's a huge necessity in 5v5 modes

[left tangle]

Since the server is still new for everyone, we’ve temporarily enabled #📬game-suggestions for <@&889991229868240956> and above (instead of Pro) if anyone wants to try it out. Be sure to follow the required format!

[raw forge]

I hope so

[left tangle]

Actually, let’s open it up to <@&889978961327718410> too! We’ll adjust as people level up.

[slate cairn]

Finished the survey

[narrow vector]

I like that there’s an official 2k community discord.

It gives me another area to earn level 40.

[rare bramble]

game chat coming to PC anytime soon? not sure how you're meant to play with randoms if it isn't in the game...

makes the solo experience really bad, and majority of people on PC play solo and not premade squads

[autumn mural]

can we get a patch for mismatch expert please it's demoralizing having someone half your height dribble for 22 seconds every possession around screens and they jack up a shot in your face 15%+ contested white and make it consistently lockdowns need to shown some type of love since we can't strip them after all that dribbling @left tangle @hollow harbor @mortal scarab @severe horizon

[narrow vector]

whoa

[autumn mural]

did i say something wrong?

[narrow vector]

nope. i just like to reply to boost my exp in this discord. trying to get level 40 in here

[autumn mural]

oh lol

[lofty mango]

If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it already nerfed?

[narrow vector]

was it?

[autumn mural]

Honestly it doesn’t feel like it I’m not just saying this because it happens a couple times it happens everyday I play this game and I play over 84 hours a week maybe it isn’t mismatch expert and it’s just contests in general but I there’s no way I’m standing in the face of these guys and they just white in my face then if I jump it’s a foul everytime

[lofty mango]

Pretty sure but I’d have to confirm

[narrow vector]

okay

[velvet valley]

you do not need to spam

[narrow vector]

Who's spamming?

[velvet valley]

You

Which you yourself admitted

[narrow vector]

Where did i admit to spamming? I've only stated that I will talk a lot in this discord since it's encouraged if you want to get Exp and rank up to level 40.

[velvet valley]

which seems to also include you saying things for the sake of it

[narrow vector]

okay

[quiet lark]

Any devs can yall fix the issue about the cant connect to the servers for the Addias event and other events so we can go down the tube and get a another game

[rare bramble]

will next gen be coming to PC for 2k23?

[bleak hatch]

Man does anyone else have the issue where you're loading into REC and get error coded and it says "this game cannot be played and will not effect your record"...and then it does show up in your record and makes keeping stats and teammate grades completely useless. It's happened to me so many times this yr. I'm having a lot of fun playing this mode and the game as a whole, though.

[mossy ice]

2K22 has been a very solid game this year i must say. Defensive movement was a huge upgrade. However, I wish shot contests were more consistent, on the perimeter and under the rim.

Literally the only gripe i have with the game

[bleak hatch]

If you have intimidator and a high perimeter defense rating you can usually get pretty good contests, especially if you're taller/longer. But sometimes blinders/deadeye just overcome the best defender. Down low it seems you really have to block it unless you're a big center or forward and can body a smaller player into missing. I'm actually cool with the defense in this game for the most part. If you spend badge points on one that makes the defense less effective they have to spend theirs on badges to combat it I guess...or their toast lol

[graceful tinsel]

Didn't think at #📬game-suggestions was the place to respond but I really like the diversity of attributes suggestion. @lapis ferry

Honestly I think it used to be that way and it's become more oversimplified over time. Everyone being able to do everything is killing the game. You should have a weakness in your game somewhere. Even the top 5 players in the NBA can't literally do it all.

[hollow heart]

Yea cant dissagree with that, besides how consistent the shot meter is & the annoying strat where you cant guard people who run from left to right to left because of the speed its solid

[crisp delta]

2x legend here, i started playing 2k in 19 and theres something about the movement on current gen that makes the game unplayable to me. the dribble moves are not nearly as fluid as they have been in past years. not the speed at which players move with the ball, but the speed at which they are able to change direction. Some complained about the speedboost glitch from 2k21 but it is arguably easier to guard/predict that the dribble moves on 2k22. i hope this new system dies off by 2k23 because coupled with the slidy defence 2k players have been dealing with for years, or the unpredictable contest system, 2
k22 is hard to enjoy on the defensive end.

[rare bramble]

i completely agree, defence on current gen in non existent. there is no point making any build with any red pie chart, its simply a waste of vc. seems mike wang plays on a playshot...

and also why has the game been slowed down so much, looking at season1 gameplay, everything was faster and far more fluid. defence actually mattered as well, on a 99 rated lockdown i should be able to consistently clamp a mediocre playshot, now its just an RNG fest

dont even get me started on the sliding that has appeared after season 1 as well

and why is catch and shoot at the hash horrendously delayed compared to every other spot, any one else find this?

[twin nebula]

Games mid. Bad defence. Okay dribbling with some op moves. Events mid. Shootings way to easy, if I green consistent with a 64 3, witch I think to be consistent you gotta have a 70+. Theres more variety in builds. Obviously there's still tons of playshots. Bigs are 2 choices popper or inside. Seasons are cool but rep should be like 2k19 based off W% then how many games you play because people are way to obsessed with levels. Current gen NEEDS a new build system but I know that won't happen. Anyways yea there's my thoughts

[crisp delta]

bro the events problem this year is insane

i really want 2k to appoint someone to manage and oversee events because we went from 2k20 being the best year for events to 2k22 being the worst. Theres simply no competitive events on current gen and on next gen theres a boosting problem that makes every event except ruffles unattainable without boosting.

[mossy ice]

I think they are not making it competitive because people are just boosting

[crisp delta]

okay for starters, most events are played legitimately. apart from gold rush, boosting other events is pointless and it takes way more effort than winning legit. i know this because my friend group consists of event players that have won both ways. It is unfair to take away something as significant as events for the sole purpose of stopping boosting. Thats like making everyone use the bus because "driving is too dangerous"😂

Basketball godz, formula, bootcamp, ruffles. They take a lot more effort to boost than to win. You wont win everytime you play, but if your are good enough you can end the year with every event legit. i've won godz, bootcamp and formula legit. I've seen people try to boost these events but they end up realizing its too much work

[mossy ice]

Fading 3's are too successful again. This was the same issue in 2K21 next gen before they patched it. Please lower the success of fading 3s because that's all people are doing now

And there's no way to consistently contest them because the fade animation is too fast

[lofty mango]

Tbh, before I got next gen, I thought it was a lot worse than it was. Now that I’ve been on next gen for a while, it’s not nearly as bad as I had assumed. Making fading whites are bad but they don’t go in at a high percentage. Standing whites go in at a ridiculous percentage however and imo, that’s a bigger issue than fades.

[mossy ice]

Nah those shots go in because they are open. The issue with fading 3s is that you can't really contest them so they're always considered "open". This was an issue last year on next gen too. Now people are realizing its OP again and just abusing it

Ruins the balance of the game at the moment

[high owl]

No lie I doubt it will happen but can we get double takeovers back on the ps4 and Xbox 1 version of the game with mamba mentality for the users that hasn't gotten a next-gen console or don't have enough money to get a next gen console so that way they can enjoy those 2 things and whites and paint defense are horrible and have a builder system in current gen 2k23 like next gen or bring back 2k19s builder system and make dribbling for playmaking pgs and sgs good from like 2k16 17 and 19 better rewards for the rep system in 2k23 I know I'm asking for a lot but I want good gameplay

[dreamy aspen]

I've never really been a fan of the takeover concept or how it's worked in 2k since its introduction. I like representing players being "hot" or "on fire," but I've long thought that it needs to be tweaked or toned down some. Being on fire doesn't ensure that you're never going to miss, for example. Contests have made Sharp takeover not a guarantee, but I'd prefer it still not be a guarantee if left open (which, I guess at that point we can talk about the fact that wide open percentages are quite high across the board, but that's a story for another day.)

[velvet valley]

Dynamic duo should be a thing again in MyCAREER offline

[icy kiln]

if youre steph curry and youre hot/on fire you shouldnt miss an open three unless you have terrible timing

in 2k if you have a 90-95 three or even like an 80+ i dont see why you should miss an open three imo

especially when ur hot or have take

[dreamy aspen]

I'd generally disagree. The best season we've ever seen from a wide open shooter is when Korver shot 58 percent wide open for the season. Think about that for a second. Even wide open, he still missed at a 42 percent clip. The best we saw this year on any kind of significant sample size was Luke Kennard hitting 51 percent of his open looks. For comparison's sake, Steph's wide open three point percentage? 40.9. Even the best shooter in the league isn't knocking it down every single time he's been left wide open. How often do we see "heat checks," even open ones, not go down? Shooting is a fickle mistress and imo, a lot can be (and should be) done to represent that better.

My honest inclination would be to simply get rid of shooting ratings altogether and replace them wholesale with baseline percentages, then you can widen or tighten the green window on those if you really want to have a "guarantee" to make a shot (I'd rather not, but most of the community does). The obvious problem with this is that it'd do away with the precious "overall rating" system, but imo, it's superfluous anyhow. No real need for it in my head, though you would need to find a different way to calculate player salaries in MyNBA. Perhaps looking more at PER and statistics would be helpful. I'm not sure on that front.

[dusk vessel]

I agree with this. I’ve long thought the idea of 0-100 ratings is outdated. We live in the era of advance stats that would better represent how a player plays irl

[dreamy aspen]

The NBA Dashboard makes things so easy. Basically has a built in contest system defined right there, has baseline percentages for every player to go along with that coverage. If people still want the "skill" aspect of a green release, you can make green windows that correspond with those percentages...

Plus losing the inane "X is a 94?!?! Clearly he should be a 95!!!!" discussions at the beginning of the year doesn't hurt lol.

[viral marsh]

Yeah. But half the time you’re not being punished for mistiming shots off the dribble as well. A play shot with 99 3 ball can be as efficient off the dribble mistiming and hit a white(wide open coverage) as a dude whose wide open for a corner 3. I have no problems with fades going in at the rate they are because it’s pretty much the only skill gap in shooting. You have to actually time it and be a skilled defender to read the dude whose running the offense tendos. Fades are not ruining the game. If you wanna really look at what’s ruining the game. It’s badges like sniper that allow people to chuck up wide open shots without really having to time it. The green window this year is fine enough to not ask you to play 24rs a day to remember your jump shot timing. You can easily switch jumpers in between games if you really want to.

[lofty mango]

Yeah I’ve talked a lot about this with you and where we don’t agree on some things, we absolutely do on others. Such as the percentage of whites that fall currently. I don’t mind takeover as much anymore since we don’t really get it or see it enough for it to be a huge issue and when they do get it, I don’t mind them not missing for a few possessions. I can just think of that as that specific player on his team having a great game (similar to Kyrie when he didn’t miss a single shot in 3 quarters recently except only for a few possessions after they get take.)

[mossy ice]

While I agree with you and wish that 2K would make shooting more realistic, I don't see them doing this because the casual community would be outraged. They tried it at the beginning of 2K21 and the amount of complaining on Twitter was crazy. Most people want shooting to be easy because scoring is fun. So 2K has to find a balance between keeping the game fun and realistic at the same time.

2K16 was the best year of shooting IMO

It was balanced and fairly realistic compared to other years

This year they made it so that open shots always go in and you only force misses by playing good defense

[dreamy aspen]

I was complaining at the beginning of 2k21 as well because it wasn't realistic lol. Percentages on the whole were significantly below expected baselines. All that was really needed that year was a 10-15 percent tweak north percentage wise on slightly releases and 2k21 would have been perfect out of the box. The issue with 2k21 was they went too far the other direction. There's a balance to be had. It's about the happy medium imo

[spare surge]

Every time I try dribbling, it is just terrible. I'm playing this game for the first time, and I'm having trouble getting a good grip on it. I try again and again, yet I feel every time I’m stuck in a dead end and leave so angry that I just leave the game. It gets worse and worse because I can’t even play on a court because the game has no ranking system, so I’m stuck getting losses over and over again, with overalls of 95-99s and rank 20s through 40s. I have so much room for improvement, yet I can’t even get a handle on it. Back to the dribbling problem: I try doing it but there are like 50 flicks on my analog stick that I have to do to even do it, and even if I try doing it on a real court, it doesn’t work.

I love the game so much and I can have fun but there is no point if I’m against players who play this game day and night

[dusk vessel]

Find jerseymade93, magiccheff & Ron bato on YouTube to learn how to combo your moves

[spare surge]

Thank you twin

[dreamy aspen]

Sports Gamers Online has a nice beginner tutorial as well

[spare surge]

Finna use that

[blissful cedar]

I hate when I try to dribble and I can’t do it @ all like I’m tryna learn how to dribble bc I’m a guard and I kinda need that I can shoot good but dribble nah feel like the mechanics are too hard🤦🏿

[spare surge]

Exactly how I feel

[graceful tinsel]

2k doesnt want to be simulation based. Honestly they should remove that from their brand all together.

Striving for balance is the best we can hope for.

[dreamy aspen]

It's a difficult struggle. I see some pushes both ways

[night topaz]

After reading the chat, I wish 2K would add a Practice option for Freestyle mode similar to the MyCAREER practice drills. It’s cool that we’re able to practice moves with either our favorite player or team but I think it’ll be better if we were able to practice with someone guarding us or to see if a particular dribble move, post move, or shot can help create space. I also think it’s weird how we’re not able to do a Free Throw Golf in Freestyle Mode.

[pale moon]

not sure who is going to see this but i wanted to point out the main thing that has been causing
2k to die out.The current state of 2k is completely dry, the community isn't thriving at all and the
biggest content creators aren't uploading/creating 2k content and have been away for the
longest now..The gameplay itself in nba2k22 is good and the majority of the community will
agree with that,,,,But the problem with the game isn't the gameplay,it's that there is no reason to
play it..Although the gameplay is good,the game doesn't give us an incentive to play/grind or get
better at the game.There is no reason to be good at the game or consistently grind it.In nba2k21
although the community was split that year, the game still had the legend grind and competitive
leaderboard events which people would grind the game for.In 2k22 there is no legend grind
because they removed the rep system,and they also removed the competitive leaderboard
events that the competitive park/stage players (which make up most of the 2k community) loved
so much.This year, seasons were obviously introduced and i think that this was a cool idea but
removing the legend grind for this was not ideal at all.The thing that makes rewards and prizes
"good" is EXCLUSIVITY ..If everyone who casually plays the game receives prizes and
rewards, then the rewards don't really mean anything..and on top of there being no legend grind
or competitive leaderboard events THE COMMUNITY IS SPLIT.this has caused the game to
feel "dead" and boring.. its harder to get games, there are less people to play with,and knowing
that there is another game out there that people are playing, kinda takes away the "litness" or
"hype" around the game that your on. I doubt 2k will make 1 game in the near future so that's
just something we will have to live with considering the majority of people that play 2k are on
current gen..(xb1,ps4) But to get the game lit 2k needs to bring back the legend grind (while
keeping the seasons) \

and bring back the competitive leaderboard events.2K also NEEDS to
add a mode in mycareer , (like how there is park,proam,and stage(ante up),) They need to add
a competitive mode called “2k compete” where 3v3/ 2v2 events and tournaments are played for
huge exclusive prizes and rewards..Depending on your qualifications in “2k compete” you can
then later enter into cash prize tournaments.for example, Fortnite has the gamemode called
arena where competitive fortnite players play and based on how good they play in arena,they
later can qualify for cash prize tournaments…This would be HUGE for 2k , and i KNOW that this
is something they can put into the game both current and next gen..if 2k does these 3 things
(while keeping the gameplay good) the game will 100% be lit , we would have a reason to grind
the game, we would have a reason to get better at the game...In the future, as a community we
hope to all be on 1 game and we hope and beg for cross platform , but until then, bring back
competitive leaderboard events,bring back the legend grind, And introduce 2K COMPETE

[dreamy aspen]

I feel the opposite in MyTeam. There's possibly too much content, which leads to an over-saturation and, in turn, a lack of quality with that content, pushing the game mode to a point of concern in terms of player ability.

[kindred oracle]

MyTeam needs to be more F2P friendly

[dreamy aspen]

2k17 has quickly become my point of comparison. It wasn't quite perfect, there were some ratings liberties that perhaps did not need to be taken, but things were fairly reasonable and there were somewhere around 1700 cards. Now we're north of 3,000, and the sheer oversaturation of that content has led to things like Shaq with a 98 3-ball and nearly every shooting badge, because there's simply nowhere else to go

[kindred oracle]

(And the rest of the game needs to be more f2p friendly also)

[dreamy aspen]

Other than reducing RNG rewards, there's not much more that can be done in their current model... MLB The Show has displayed a great model for F2P content in the past (last year especially) and I feel like copying something like that could be helpful

[dreamy aspen]

Yeah agreed. On the MC side, when it costs 50 bucks extra to get your player to 85, where he's finally capable, that's an issue

[kindred oracle]

MyCareer is too much of a VC grind that it makes you buy VC

[dusk vessel]

Your impatience makes you buy VC. Look inward

[dusk vessel]

You can literally spend a day on MyTeam and have a really good squad

[hard kestrel]

Yeah I’ve found personally my team is f2p friendly, Obvs you have the super mega teams but I see many that have great teams and haven’t even spent a dime. Career yeah is a bit of a grind but that’s the whole point of the mode, you generally get rewarded quite nice in regards to vc just for plying a game (in career) and then the quests along the way help too. Problem with it dying on career/city for me is that an example being people call x one and ps4 current gen when in fact it’s just old gen now and people need to start moving on to what is now the “current gen”. 2k a big problem in this as they make 2 different games that are completely different so they surely will never be able to do cross play lol. I personally also think the city is way way way to big and that’s what makes it harder to find games on concretes too at times where maybe less people are online

[dreamy aspen]

This is true. I didn't say it outright, but I do like their current model for the mode (in terms of F2P content. My issues are outside of that). It's just that a game like The Show gives so much quality free content (at least last year. This year is not as good on that front imo) that it's hard to say that there's no potential for improvement. But yeah. I definitely have a lot of quality free cards at my disposal

[dreamy aspen]

My thing with this is that I play (and generally prefer) MyTeam so much that when I do hop over there, I just really want to be able to hop into the Rec and have a viable player from the get-go. I actually have a different solution for this in my opinion, it's a universal currency rather than two separate to govern the two different modes.

[night topaz]

One way I think to improve or at least make the grind more bearable in MyCAREER is by increasing the starting OVR cap from a 60 OVR to 70 OVR for our MyPLAYER. Honestly, I don’t seem to understand how all the years of playing 2K, I’ve been a first round draft pick and it’s weird to see that out of the Top 30 rookies in the first round, you have the lowest OVR (unless you brought V.C.) out of all the other rookies in the draft while being a first round draft pick. It makes no sense to me. Most of the rookie that were a Top 30 pick in the draft are no lower than a 70 OVR.

[dreamy aspen]

I think an interesting idea would be the ability to play your way to a higher overall cap. Undrafted, you're a 60. Late 2nd, 65. Early 2nd/Late 1st, 70. Mid-1st/Lottery, 75 and then #1 overall, 80. It would incentivize good play in college. Could also ramp up the difficulty there too if you want to make the floor "skill based."

Maybe 80 is too steep but I totally get you on 60 being an odd starting point for a #1 pick

[night topaz]

I absolutely agree with that idea. I don’t know if it’s possible to be a Number 1 pick in MyCAREER but to be a lottery to #30 pick in the draft and be the only 60 OVR while having the rest of your contemporaries have at least a 70+ OVR is just a head scratcher me. Another thing I would love to see is the Summer League or Summer Circuit from 2K11. I can see 2K using that as a way to increase our OVR cap especially if someone is a late to 2nd round pick.

[night topaz]

Undrafted to Late 2nd Round pick.

[lofty mango]

I don’t think that’s necessarily true

I’ve always been NMS and had what people consider a god squad in end game. I haven’t played nearly as much as previous years due to work commitments and I still have a pretty solid team and am able to beat opponents more often than not.

[dusk vessel]

Universal currency is the idea we need.

[dreamy aspen]

I know! I didn't even realize how much better it was until I picked MLBTS back up last year. It's nice to be able to earn their currency in any mode I play and be able to spend it on cards or ways of improving my player (which are also found in cards, but still) or whatever.

[mossy ice]

I still stand on the opinion that 2K22 has been a very solid game. Its not perfect but most of its elements are very balanced. Compared to previous years, there aren't many "exploits"

My top 3 would be:

2K16
2K22
2K17

[dreamy aspen]

That's wild because that's my order too 🤣 13 is up there to me in some respects as well

But 13 was far from perfect. That's more of a nostalgia pick for sure

[bleak hatch]

11 was solid too, but that was before the online days. I agree with all of those and have enjoyed 2k22 a lot. 20 was pretty fun too if I remember correctly.

[mossy ice]

https://youtu.be/oJZ-j8TVTDA

[dreamy aspen]

Dear Agent... I wholeheartedly disagree

"2k13 is an example of more realistic gameplay." I loved 2k13 looool

My response to all of this:

• Baseline percentages being realistic is the solution to all of 2k's issues. This doesn't preclude a skill gap. Greens can still go in at 100 percent. If a player times things perfectly, it raises the percentage floor that they're hitting. The only thing is that a baseline "slightly" release should go in at that "realistic" rate. The reason for this is exactly what we're seeing this year. If you've given up a wide open shot, you're giving up what is basically an auto-bucket, with some exceptions. The percentage is extremely high and people don't want that either. There needs to be some kind of balance.

• The progression he's talking about is not what I'm after when I play 2k. I want a peer-to-peer competition in which the best strategist wins. If I'm working to find open shots, working my offense well and making appropriate defensive adjustments to my opponents' personnel, that should generally be rewarded. Occasionally that's going to break down. You'll find an opponent that is excellent at shooting/timing shots or whatever else, and that's okay. Winning is fun, of course, but it also needs to be earned.

• Hyper unrealism kills the game. We see it every year in MyTeam, not sure about other modes, but when we're constantly bending the game's physics, it has long been a recipe for disaster. "End game" of the past four years has been absolutely dreadful on the court, especially from that strategic standpoint.

Responsiveness, I mean that's an okay point I guess. I don't necessarily see a need for more realism to equal snail's pace myself. I just want to be able to make adjustments that make sense, to be able to sag off/play tight against players who possess those certain strengths and weaknesses. If running Korver off the line just results in a poster dunk or sagging off on Shaq leads him to hitting a 3 with 98 3 point and every badge imaginable anyway... why am I even playing a basketball game at this point? All the real-world adjustments they give me are rendered pointless

Credit where it's due, however, MyTeam is better at this point of the year than I feel it has been in a while. It's still decently fun, I just want to be able to make common-sense adjustments that aren't counterintuitive to normal basketball IQ

[dreamy aspen]

Speaking of... are there patch notes for the most recent patch? I'm hearing that the "peek" dribble (aka, quick stop) is gone, as are "stunned" defenders as a result of Tight Handles. If these things are true, big leap forward imo!

[night topaz]

@Earv I agree with you. 2K22 (Next Gen) is a solid game and a step in the right direction especially compare to the atrocity that came out last year. There are plenty of thing that can be improved on. For example, fading 3’s success rate, the size of the court, pump faking 5-8 times in the paint w/no repercussions, inconsistent dunk meter, being too guard-oriented, glitched builds, no All Star Team-Up, faster/better post spin and post moves animations, etc.
All in all, this is still a pretty good and playable 2K. I can’t wait for what the next 2K provides us with.

Your top 3 is similar to mine but I would have 2K20 over 2K22 because the game was more fun.

I would like to know from the people in here.

How do you feel about the season rewards?

What would you improve about it?

Would you prefer something similar to 2K15-17, 2K18-19, or 2K22?

[high owl]

Cross play is a great idea
I'll start out with testing cross play out on next gen 2k before saying that current gen will get it
And by cross play I mean playstation users should be able to play with Xbox users and viversa

[dreamy aspen]

Honestly season rewards are just packs that get backlogged in my inventory most of the time lol. I don't really go after the level 40 player, but the people who do seem to enjoy it well enough

[viral marsh]

I would like for there to be a option were we can choose a secondary position that a person would like to be slotted in rec when there is two people playing the same position. I made a 6’5 sg. But. I made it enough to play sg/sf. Not so much a pg since it doesn’t have enough stamina to run the offense as a playmaker. But has enough to play defense and maybe be 2nd/3rd option.

[bleak hatch]

@viral marsh that would be dope..or let us choose from our builds when we see who were paired up with. I have a 6'7 PG and I love to play the 1 or the 2. I had to play the 3 last night, and I've even been at the 4. I can usually make it work but it's tough when I have no rebounding to bang with those guys. But if I did have to play that position I have a build maxed out and waiting if I were able to change up quickly in the lobby or pre game. Just something to think about.

[rare bramble]

i think that full bars should be removed from the game, especially with real player % still being broken. how is it fair that someone can go 4/4 timing none of their shots and i can miss perfectly timed shots purely because the game wants me to. It actively removes the skill gap and contributes to the idea that the game is wayyyyy too casual friendly. anyone can lose to anyone in this game and that is not what an online game should be like. skill should be rewarded and if your team is better than the other team you should beat them 99% of the time, but unfortunately this is not the case. thoughts?

[bleak hatch]

Idk I get it but doesn't it usually go in if it's a full bar and a good, open shot? It does suck to brick one. And yeah real player % is crazy. I get if you are far from any server you have crazy lag, but if that were me I'd make a slasher or inside big. I don't see it a ton, and if you contest they miss but still seems cheap to me whenever I see it lol

[rare bramble]

nah full bars on current gen go crazy, can be miles open and time it perfectly and boom nothing. and now they've introduced servers in south america, everyone has servers now and if you're lagging, you just have bad internet. Why should the competitive integrity of the game be compromised because people don't have good enough internet to play online games?

also regardless, the idea of a full bar is stupid imo. how can you be timing a shot PERFECTLY and it doesn't go in, purely because of a couple lines of code in the game? rng should have no place in an online game

problem is that 2k want people to open park for the first time and have an equal chance of winning, how does this make sense? it takes hour of practice to get good at the game and if people are expecting to have an entire games skill gap compromised so they dont lose their first couple online games against someone who has hundreds of hours in the park

hours*

a skill gap is what makes the game enjoyable to those who play it, witha skill gap, the seasons model would work, as those who are good and win a lot would get to the higher levels rather than everyone and their nan being able to achieve it because no skill is required, and instead games are decided based on rng

rng of whites, full bars, contested shots

and the outrageous rng of paint defence

all remove any skill gap

and make the game no better than a singleplayer experience

[dreamy aspen]

A strict green window is fine as long as non-greens (slightlies) are treated at player average and down (as we get further away from the green window). Frankly, I'd prefer the green window to simply be a modifier, but that's typically not to the liking of those who want a "skill gap" (though I totally believe it could provide one).

[dreamy aspen]

I disagree here though. We're talking about a basketball game. RNG needs to be part of that at some point, since we're dealing with real life averages and player skills.

RNG is easily the best way of representing that and, at the very least, slightly releases need to be attended to in that way

Quite frankly, I wish 2k kept track of shooting percentages the way The Show keeps track of BABIP and things of the sort on their different hit windows.

And adjusted accordingly. People are shooting 65+ percent from 3? Gotta be tweaked heavily

21's launch had the inverse problem, and instead of simply tweaking the slightly percentages up by about 15 percent, they overcorrected

The skill gap early in 21 was perfect. All that needed to be adjusted was a slight increase on slightlies. It just never happened

[rare bramble]

we in a game, not real life

you should be able to perfect ur craft and shoot 60% plus from 3

games would be too slow and borin otherwise

this isnt a simulation game

only has simulation aspecxts

if it was a simulation game no one would play

RNG is not good in any game that wants to have a competitive element

end of

21 shooting was awful

ruined build diversity

everyone was a playshot

i think apart from sniper whites, 22 shooting is the bst in recent memory

u can shoot with a 60 3 ball, but u gotta be able to time PERFECTLY

better than 20 when u could shoot lights out with a 40

22 shooting allows those good at the game to make builds that excel in other areas, and they can still shoot whereas someone who picke dup the game yesterday wont be able to

and thats a good thing

as u get better, you should be able to play on different builds and truly become elite in many areas of the game

finishing, slashing defence

21 didnt have that

u need an 86 3 ball to shoot consistently

ruined the game

and ur point still doesnt address ro% being broken, surely you agree its fairer for someone to shoot 65% from 3 if theyre skilled and time it perfectly rather than just holding shoot and the game doing it for the?

them*?

[dreamy aspen]

It's a game that emulates real life. You have to balance the two concepts. The Show has a competitive element and they're striving for the same balance between competitive game and some variance naturally attached to the game of baseball. You have to in order to emulate a real life sport

[dreamy aspen]

Not necessarily. Realistic does not have to mean slow. Further, we're simply talking about realistic shooting percentages, not necessarily foot planting/movement

[dreamy aspen]

Also not true.

[dreamy aspen]

And that can potentially be fine. As long as non-greens are at real player percentage, whatever a "60" is in terms of that. Balance the two.

[dreamy aspen]

That's... Fine? I mean, what is an "86," what percentage does it represent? For that matter, what is a "consistent" shooter? In the NBA it's really anything north of 40%, even some who shoot below. Again, it's an NBA game.

[dreamy aspen]

If we insist on a "skill gap," fine. I'd prefer not, but again, you have to strike that balance. Real player percentage would only take effect on "slightly" releases if you had to keep greens (which again, is not my preference but can be compromised.)

But that 65 has to be because of a high percentage of greens. As of right now, wide open shots go in at what I'd wager is 80-90 percent of the time in the slightly window. That's far too high. That should be at around 50% max according to NBA numbers. (And not everyone should be capable of that lofty a ceiling)

Again, the first week or two of 21 had high potential for that balance. All that was really needed was a 15-20 percent uptick in the amount of "slightly" releases that fell.

It's an NBA game. I don't understand why people are so willing to jettison any semblance of basketball. Why do we want so badly to sacrifice the core of the game at the altar of "competitive e-sports?"

The game has traditionally been better in more balanced/simulation settings. 2k16 is case in point.

[dreamy aspen]

I also don't understand the logic behind this. If you want to be good at shooting, you should create a build centered around that. Builds have limitations for a reason. Basketball IQ means that if you aren't as capable a three point shooter, you're going to pass them up for what is hopefully a better look. Poor shooters don't look at a three, say "haha just kidding I'm actually great at shooting" and hit the thing most of the time 🤣 that's just flawed logic.

[dreamy aspen]

The player builder has built in trade offs for a reason. If you're skimping on three-point rating, you should be a weaker three point shooter regardless. There's no point in the builder otherwise.

Lower rating should equal a) tighter green window and b) reduced percentages on non-green "slightly" releases

[rare bramble]

yeah thats what a lower rating does, smaller window and less whites, but those who can time extremely well and can get wide open shots should be able to shoot with a low 3 ball, thats were the skill gap comes from, see locks that play in ante up, they have low 3 balls compared to playshots, but can shoot just as well if not better than a lot of playshots in the game

and simulation does absolutely equal slower, 2k is miles faster than real life ball

at the end of the day, its a game, not a perfect representation of real life

if i spend hours learning my shot, why cant i make a build with a low 3 ball and shoot ~50%

thats skill gap again

the rate of whites should be dropped heavily

and rp% should not go in anywhere near how much it does

"real player %" should go in ~40% of the time with 99 3 ball (curry)

thats what the name suggests

but instead its wayyy higher

i dont follow baseball so dont know anything ur talking about with the show

[rare bramble]

yes, this is what im saying 22 does extremely well

keeps the balance of a game, and you can shoot if you practice, but not lights out with a low ball

20 was far too easy, 21 far too hard

[rare bramble]

We all play because we love the game of basketball, but we also love playing games, a balance needs to be made I agree

And yeah surely u agree if you’ve played real life ball for hundreds of hours more than someone, you should beat them most of the time yes? That’s what we need in 2k that doesn’t exist currently

And the way to do that is to create a skill gap

Less whites, rp% nerf

Fix paint defence

Rim running is too op this game and doesn’t represent a balanced game or real life basketball

[dreamy aspen]

Well right, but again, we're not talking about realistic speed right now, just realistic shooting. Speed is a different question so it is irrelevant to this conversation

[dreamy aspen]

I agree that it should be brought down a bit yes.

[rare bramble]

You said simulation wouldn’t be slower, I said it would

[rare bramble]

That’s my main gripe at the minute, it’s far too powerful

[dreamy aspen]

🤣 not necessarily. I can almost guarantee you that there are people who've played less basketball than I have in my life who are much, much better than I 🤣

[rare bramble]

No I know, of course, but I mean say someone who’s playing their like 3rd ever game of basketball, you’d expect yourself to be better both technically and iq wise, and thus win, this I what I mean

Ofc it doesn’t equate exactly

[dreamy aspen]

No, I said it doesn't have to necessarily mean slower. Because I'm not talking about realism in speed right now. Realistic relates solely to shooting percentages in this discussion.

[rare bramble]

Then we misunderstood each other

And when I say someone should be able to shoot with a lower 3 ball if they practice, imagine it like vets in the NBA who get better at shooting over time, that’s the only thing I can think it’s a bit like

[dreamy aspen]

No, I get what you're saying, it's just a distraction from the actual point I was making. We're talking realistic shooting percentages.

[rare bramble]

People who aren’t historically shooters, start shooting a bit better

[dreamy aspen]

Right but their "rating" would go up as a result of that. Their baseline percentage would trend higher

[rare bramble]

I think that should be able to be mirrored in some way, and learning ur shot to the point you can shoot with a lower 3 ball makes sense to me

Yes but ofc you can’t just raise your rating in the game without making a new build

As with many games, new players should have to specialise in order to be competitive, but those who have the experience and skill should be able to be a bit more all round and be able to compensate with their builds weaknesses, ie 3pt, with skill

[dreamy aspen]

Exactly and I think that's the point. There's a cap for a reason. Instead of "learning your shot better" you've already created a scenario where you have to be very selective about the shots you try. There's no changing that

I just think the compensation is to use basketball sense, swallow your pride and keep the ball moving rather than trying a low-percentage shot

[rare bramble]

I agree, but if wide open then a skilled player with hundreds of hours in the game who knows their shot should be able to spark a 3 with a low 3 ball and have a chance, and that’s what 22 shooting does very well

I agree, people force up too many poor shots, but I’m not talking about 3 hunting with a 64 3 ball, I’m saying if you get wide open why shouldn’t you be able to hit if you can time within a much smaller Green window

That’s where skill gap comes into play

[dreamy aspen]

How often are these "practiced" players hitting with that rating? This would be my question.

[rare bramble]

I have a 2 way play with a 68 3 ball at 99 (current gen) and I shoot ~55% with that

As someone who’s spent hours in the my court learning my shot

I think that’s fair

I don’t really get whites

And I don’t get contested shots unless I’m smack bang in the middle of the window

Which I believe is fair

[dreamy aspen]

That's north of Kyle Korver's NBA record season of 53.6 percent. On a player that you actively traded off three point ability. You don't see an issue with that?

[rare bramble]

Considering it’s a game and not real life, no I don’t see an issue

No one wants to play when they could only hit at most 4/10 shots they take

It would be boring

[dreamy aspen]

I vehemently disagree

[rare bramble]

A game is meant to be fun

Missing is not fun

[dreamy aspen]

Seeing a player whom you should be able to sag off of and live with the consequences hitting at a clip beyond the NBA record is also not fun.

[rare bramble]

If it was a simulation game then yes, bring the percentages back down, but it’s not. Every player can have hof numbers in career, every player can do pretty much everything, especially on next gen

They have to strike a balance

[dreamy aspen]

If you want to hit shots, you shouldn't trade off shooting ability for something else. If hitting shots is fun, make your player able to do that

[rare bramble]

Yes but my point is if I put in the work to learn my shot, why can’t I make a build that is better all round and still hit sort of well

[dreamy aspen]

Below average three point shooters being able to shoot better than an all-time record holder is not balance.

[rare bramble]

It’s nowhere near the level I shoot at with a playshot ~70%

[rare bramble]

It is when you’re playing against others that can do it

[dreamy aspen]

Which is already egregious enough

[rare bramble]

Balance is relative

[dreamy aspen]

Right..it needs to come down across the board

[rare bramble]

2k is a game where anyone can make a superstar, a once in a lifetime player

So if everyone is like that

The only way to separate is with a skill gap

Which doesn’t exist rn

[rare bramble]

You can turn up the difficulty and play offline if that’s what you want

2k is not a pure simulation game

It’s an arcade simulation game

[dreamy aspen]

Again disagree

There are so many sim functions there that it cannot be true.

[rare bramble]

How can it be a sim if you’re saying the shooting is not realistic at all?

You’re contradicting yourself

[dreamy aspen]

This is the dichotomy we see. The community wants it both ways. Can't do that. Balance is not struck this way

[rare bramble]

I would argue that most people want it like it is, and a smaller percentage want it super realistic

Typically older people who play the game

[dreamy aspen]

No, I'm not. I'm saying that the core of the game is clearly a sim. It's just got this strange cognitive dissonance going on with shooting and certain animations. Embracing simulation would bring a much better balance

[rare bramble]

And that’s not the market

[rare bramble]

Lay off the big words bro, doesn’t give your point any validity

You said it’s a pure sim

But you think the shooting is not realistic at all

Let alone the dribbling

Rim running

Sliding defence

It’s not a sim at all

[dreamy aspen]

This is just how I talk. Don't do this.

[rare bramble]

The only way it’s a sim is that it emulates the game of basketball

That’s it

Nothing else about it is simulation

[dreamy aspen]

This is what I'm saying though. That's why all of those things need to be fixed and improved

[rare bramble]

But it’s not a simulation game !!!

So why should it be changed to be one ?

It’s an arcade simulation

Like the difference between the F1 official game, and say iRacing

[dreamy aspen]

You just said it was.... In that it simulates the game of basketball, no?

[rare bramble]

One a is an arcade sim for casuals, one is for hardcore people who want absolute realism

[rare bramble]

Emulates, different word

[dreamy aspen]

Okay emulates. How are percentages that soar above NBA record pace on mediocre shooters helping to emulate the game of basketball?

[rare bramble]

They emulate it in the sense it is fundamentally the game of basketball

The gameplay and percentages are not the same

Hence not a simulation but an emulation

[dreamy aspen]

They're also not the only ones on the market. They have that ability to play in different spaces. 2k is the only game in town. It's been marketed as a simulation for most of its existence. Why change that?

[rare bramble]

When has it ever had a max shooting percentage of ~40%?

Never

So why change it ?

[dreamy aspen]

To emulate means to match...

[rare bramble]

The market enjoys it the way it is, with unrealistic percentage and with superstar players far better than real life players

[rare bramble]

Nice Google

In 2k, the real life players don’t have a crazy amount of hof badges, my players do

[dreamy aspen]

So? If you're going to use the word, you don't get to change the definition of the word.

[rare bramble]

Hence the ability to shoot much better

[rare bramble]

When did I change it?

Look mate, you clearly want an all out basketball sim, which 2k is not and never will be

[dreamy aspen]

Yeah. I think that system needs a change in the worst way too

[rare bramble]

If it becomes that, most people would stop

It simply wouldn’t be fun

For most people

[dreamy aspen]

I disagree

[rare bramble]

I appreciate some would like that

But that’s a small minority

Very small

[dreamy aspen]

I think people would be surprised

[rare bramble]

If that’s the case, then why after millions and millions spent on market research and after years of consumer feedback, haven’t 2k changed it?

Because they know people want to boom out unrealistically

Dunking on people like Lebrun

Lebron*

Then shooting lights out like curry on roids

That’s what they want

Oh and the handles of kyrie with the defence of Kawhi

That’s what people want

And 2k have the years of feedback and the research to confirm that

Hence why the game is the way it is

[dreamy aspen]

I simply don't think it's smart to cater your game, which is trying to match real life basketball, to a subset who don't want it to match real life basketball.

[rare bramble]

So it should be balanced in its current state, rather than changing it compeletely to become a pure sim

[rare bramble]

The majority subset though, that’s my point

[dreamy aspen]

Even if it's a majority. The people who don't want it to match the game it's supposed to match probably shouldn't have the say, correct?

[rare bramble]

No, incorrect. If they did that, they would lose billions of dollars

Hence why they don’t

End of

It’s a business

And a game

Not a pure simulation

They do what the people want, because that’s what makes them money

But they need to bring balance or they get what is happening

[dreamy aspen]

The Show went the simulation route. There are still plenty of people who buy and play and have fun 🤷‍♂️

[rare bramble]

I don’t follow that sport so cannot comment at all

[dreamy aspen]

I gotta get to work now but that's all I can really say 🤷‍♂️

[rare bramble]

But I doubt it has the player base or the profitability of 2k, and for a reason. Because it’s gone pure sim as u say, which most people don’t want

They want to creat a superstar and boom out with their friends

But have it be competitive

And balanced within its realm of gameplay

[dreamy aspen]

It was number 3 in sales for April and has expanded beyond PS to XBox and Switch over the past two years. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Esports/Sections/Media/2022/05/NPD-Report-April-2022-MLB-The-Show-Call-of-Duty-Vanguard.aspx

[rare bramble]

sales in one month =/ profittability over a year or playerbaser

[dreamy aspen]

They don't, but MLBTS sold well all year last year as well. PS metrics alone had it as the 8th best seller in the states, above FIFA here and only two spots below Madden. Some of the potential that 2k has is lost for The Show since other baseball playing countries (Japan and Korea, most notably) have their own professional ecosystems that produce games as well

[jaunty flame]

In US MLB sells more than 2K, full 2021.

[rare bramble]

didn't realise us = the world?

[dreamy aspen]

Okay interesting. That was not what the PS list I found had said.

[jaunty flame]

2K only has advantage of basketball being popular in rest of the word, daa, do you think a little, nothing to do with the game

[dreamy aspen]

Like I said, MLB's popularity is cut into in other baseball playing countries

[jaunty flame]

sport popularity

so sim vs full arcade argument is stupid

nobody cares Baseball in Europe, it could be funniest game in the world, nobody cares

[rare bramble]

Either way, if the market research 2k has undoubtedly spent millions suggests that the community majority wants a true sim, then the game would be a true sim

It doesn’t

And so they keep it’s arcade sim

So it should be balanced within that realm

Rather than changed completely

[jaunty flame]

The PS blog always tells downloads, so I have rage deleted NBA 100x, so that counts has 100 downloads 😄 I usually google different statistic sites for that, as non of the numbers are pure 100% correct.

[jaunty flame]

I am sure EA Battlefield 2042 market research also spent millions, look what that gave them 😅

[rare bramble]

Good thing we’re not talking about battlefield at all then

Point remains, rp% far too op, remove it or remove full whites to at least bring some balance

[jaunty flame]

Good you have high hopes on 2K marketing, the must be #1 in the world then! Very good!

[rare bramble]

Skill gap should be an important factor when making an online pvp game

Which 2k is

Otherwise the replay ability dies

Which has happened

Many content creators leaving

Many people stop playing

[jaunty flame]

The also I am 100% sure You all all wanted, I mean majority of community wanted physics, where hand goes through ball, body fazes body, hand and ball sometimes goes through rim, nothing really connects most of the moments gameplay. Ast his is what 2K gave us, so that must be what we want!

[rare bramble]

Or play much less

[jaunty flame]

Thansk, good to know! 🙂

[rare bramble]

Most people understand the complications that come with making a game and as long as the physics is nearly right, most people are happy

And as long as they continue to improve

Which they have done with the jump to next gen from current

[rare bramble]

And who knows, I’m sure many of these issues could be fixed or made much better if they invested in some servers from this decade

I’m sure everyone artificially being on ~150 ping doesn’t help the physics engine

They tried to introduce a skill gap in 21 with the shooting, but they got it horrendously wrong and it ruined the game for a lot of people

They went the other way this year

Classic 2k

Over correcting

Now there’s almost no skill gap

I believe season 3 was the worst

That was awful in terms of gameplay

Defence non existent

A skill gap is when someone can perform much better than someone else with the same abilities at their disposal

Or similarly with worse abilities

That’s where skill comes in

If I can shoot with a 75 3 ball at the same percentage as someone with a 90 3 ball, then I have higher skill in that area

And that’s what 22 shooting does well

They just need to patch the rate at which whites go in ie INCORRECTLY timed shots

And fix real player %

Both of those actively remove the skill gap and discourage people from playing over and over again

Because what’s the point In putting the hours in if someone can perform just as well as you based purely on luck ?

That’s my point

I don’t know anything about the show, I don’t follow baseball at all, but I know 2k and just giving my opinion

Which has been expressed many times over by many people that play the game, including big content creators as well as small ones

They all say the same as what I’ve just said

[jaunty flame]

Straight from Take 2, they still market at as: 2K's realistic sports simulation titles
Then they should stop saying realistic sports sim.

[rare bramble]

Take it up with 2k then

I’m past the debate on whether it’s a sim

I’m talking about gameplay and balance online

As I was originally

[jaunty flame]

Then learn to debate without random facts that are wrong or can be overturned. Seems You have to take it up with 2k, I have nothing, just sad to see wrong information flying around.

[rare bramble]

Point me to where I said “random facts” ?

I do have something to take up with 2k, hence me voicing it in their discord

You simply have come in here to defend the show and battlefield ?

Which I never had a problem with lmao

And yeah where’s this wrong information ?

[zenith marsh]

The problem I see with pushing for realistic shooting percentages is that you have to do a shift for how long a game is. 40% would probably be OK for 12 minute quarters but online their aren't any game modes that go that length. Being cold and low on stamina also effect the numbers. At 12 minutes for a rec game it'd probably be easier for people to end up at 40% by the end but it might feel more like doing well in one half and completely off in the 2nd. Park games are so much shorter in comparison. Personally I like the idea of pushing for less realistic percentages and having a better idea of where thresholds for what average, good, and great are per attribute.

The issue I have with skill gap is that the topic is usually tied to open shooting. Skill gap includes both offensive and defensive IQ. The game doesn't lack a skill gap because you don't hit a jumps hot after getting open but it can feel bad. Part of defensive IQ is also getting the other offense to take the least likely shot, which if we knew more about our matchups beforehand would be to let the lowest rated shooter shoot. Whether that be a guard with no close shot or forward with below average 3.

My issue with mycareer being thought of as everyone being able to score is that doesn't take into account difficulty. Everyone should be able to do at least ok on pro once they understand the basics (while is still quite a bit with 2k being a Sim). IIRC Park and rec are different difficulties which means thresholds change, so theoretically the window in mycareer is different than Park rec and pro am ( it accounting for latency) at least slightly.

Personally I've been trying to figure out comparing mycareer to MMOs and MOBAs. I think they were closer to that before when they builds were more restricted to roles. I think 2k leagues premades (and all star team up in a way) also kind of balance in this way. That could just be me personally taking comfort in known build specs. That aids decision making on both sides when you know what mismatches might be there. The variety of builds in mycareer make that less certain which isn't a bad thing.

[dreamy aspen]

I agree to an extent in that I can see a slight increase to realistic percentages to adjust for shorter game length. I just think it's a good baseline to start from

[dreamy aspen]

I'm just of the mind that a below-average three point shooter ratings-wise shooting a better-than-NBA-record percentage is poor game mechanics at work

[rare bramble]

But it’s all relative, shooting 55% where a good player shoots 70% is reflective of lower ratings

Good player as in a playshot for example with a 95 3 vs a 2 way play with a 68

[rare bramble]

I absolutely agree, defence and iq wins games when both teams are good at the game and can shoot lights out from 3. But then again, the stuns of tight handles needs to be questioned as that’s another rng thing that can literally be the difference between a win and a loss

And also tied into whites going in on contested shots

If they Green it

Fair enough

It’s a tough shot

But whites

Never should go in when contested

And lates and earlies definitely should never go in, but they do 😦

I firmly believe if someone can get wide open and always take good shots

Let them shoot 100% from 3 if they can

Rewards them for taking the time to master their craft

[dreamy aspen]

The issue is that the actual range is a lot wider than that though. I'd be of the mind that it should come down across the board generally

[rare bramble]

Instead it’s limited to around ~75% depending on the jumpshot base because of full bars

Which is unrewarding to the player

And unrepresentative of a players skill

[rare bramble]

But what’s the solution? There always has to be a green window, which means some people will always be able to shoot lights out

That’s a good thing

Rewards them for playing for years or for taking the time to really learn their shot and the timing of all the different animations they could be subject to

[rare bramble]

What do you mean range? Different players yes, but the same player on 2 different builds with the same jumpshot etc and shooting 15% less

I think that’s fair for pure ratings difference

[dreamy aspen]

Well for one I don't think there does, but operating under that assumption, the solution is the reduction of percentage of whites to that of the real player

[dreamy aspen]

I'll need to check the regular rosters on this. I'm under the assumption that 99 down to 69 is more than 15 percent of difference

[rare bramble]

ah well we have completely different opinions on that

[rare bramble]

im talking about percentages a player can shoot at in park with a myplayer

[rare bramble]

but yes i agree, less whites absolutely

[dreamy aspen]

Yes I know. We have to compare expected percentages for players in the regular rosters to get a good feel for what the percentage difference is supposed to be. 15% seems entirely too narrow to be worth the trade-off in other categories. Diminishing returns, as it were. But I'd have to run that against expectations

[rare bramble]

to be fair, on a build with a 68 3 vs a 95, i absolutely find myself taking nowhere near the same amount of shots so this ofc contributes to the less spread

[dreamy aspen]

Part of the issue is that 2k ratings are a generally arbitrary number. Things could also be improved by replacing three point ratings with an expected base percentage

[rare bramble]

but at the end of the day, its the same thing under the hood, only thing that changes is what is shown to the player, a number or a percentage

[dreamy aspen]

That's true, however most players we'll find at that rating threshold will likely be lower volume shooters as well. Again, it's worth a double check

[rare bramble]

so for ease of use a number is better

[rare bramble]

yeah i mean i personally don't think you can compare online percentages to that of offline ai, the gameplay and meta is completely different

[dreamy aspen]

I'm not talking about online or offline percentages. I'm trying to get to the heart of your claim about the percentage range that ratings represent. Hang on.

[rare bramble]

heart of my claim? im just saying a good player can shoot probably around 50-60% from 3 with a mid 60s 3 ball and then 70% upwards on a playshot (90+)

not talking about anything to do with hard stats

talking about myplayers online

in park and such

[dreamy aspen]

No, I mean your claim that 15 percent is a reasonable difference between a 99 and a 65 rating. I'll warn you already, Curry is the only 99 3 point shooter and his career 44% is already over 15 % higher than that of Chris Bosh, who has a 79 3 point rating.

[rare bramble]

When online, and the exact same jumpshot with the exact same timing can be equipped

Yes I think it’s fair

Also a 65 3 ball in park will have ~10-12 badges

Current gen

I doubt Chris bosh has that many

So they play into it ofc

Lucky #7 and catch and shoot have massive boosts

And are favourites on lower 3 ball builds

I’m not talking about career or offline or comparing to real life

[dreamy aspen]

So, most at that 65 rating are 25% below that 44% mark on low volume. There are some exceptions (another testament to a base percentage being a better solution) but this would indicate that this gap should be wider, more like 25 percent. So we're talking percentages that are 30 percent too high on the top end and with a ten percent lower gap than what should be expected.

[rare bramble]

Okay you’ve gone off on your own little tangent there

I’m talking about prk

The same player

The same jumpshot

[dreamy aspen]

This is part of the problem, no? Bosh is a worse three point shooter at 79 than Curry at 99 by over 15 percent career. No amount of badges should change that

[rare bramble]

Only difference is badges and rating

With good shot iq and boosts

A 15% difference for someone who wins around 75% of their games

That seems okay to me

[dreamy aspen]

Again, no. I'm speaking directly to your claim that 15 percent is a fair gap between 99 and 65

[rare bramble]

For an online pvp game

[rare bramble]

The comparison between park and real life doesn’t exist

They’re so different

Nothing compares

Literally no stats

Fg%

Idk dunk percent

Contact dunk %

Everything

[dreamy aspen]

Hold on now. You've brought up multiple things that should not matter:

1. game mode
2. win percentage
3. jump shot used
4. badges

None of these are real life indicators for three point percentage, nor should they be in game modifiers for the same

[rare bramble]

Lmao I’ve literally said all of those matter

For online

For comparisons to be drawn

I’m not talking about offline

[dreamy aspen]

Yes. I know. None of them actually do though

[rare bramble]

Career or my league

Most people don’t play that

[dreamy aspen]

Nor am I

[rare bramble]

In the online modes they definitely do

Jumpshot does matter

Badges do matter

[dreamy aspen]

I'm not talking about 2k there. I'm talking just general basketball mechanics. Ergo, since, again, we're emulating (that is, matching) basketball... Should they modify percentages if we agree that a rating represents a set percentage?

[rare bramble]

Yes it emulates basketball, not nba stats

A hof superstar in the park

[dreamy aspen]

🤦‍♂️

[rare bramble]

Playing pick up

Would be able to shoot 70%

You think curry wouldn’t be able to?

You seen him shoot damn near 100 shots without missing

?

You’re literally trying to make my point about other things so you can bring up stats and try big brain it and make urself feel good

I’m talking exclusively about 2k online

It’s its own universe

No parallels with real life nba basketball

Apart from they’re both the game of basketball

[dreamy aspen]

Curry? Maybe. Usman Garuba or Aron Baynes (both 65) hitting 55%? Probably not.

[rare bramble]

Everything else is different

[rare bramble]

Yeah that’s what I said…

[dreamy aspen]

If your My player is on the same ratings scale as NBA players, it has to be....

[rare bramble]

50-60

[rare bramble]

But it’s not, you get wayyyy more badges

And your faster, can dribble better

Everything is better

That’s the point of mycareer

[dreamy aspen]

You need to forget about badges honestly. The simple question here is: if a rating represents an actual percentage, should that percentage not be the baseline?

The answer is that it should

[rare bramble]

Not at all, badges are integral to online shooting

So I’m not forgetting them

That’s stupid

[dreamy aspen]

Yes and I believe that should not be the case. Badges need to diminish in effect

Just in general. Because they skew expected percentages that badly

[rare bramble]

How many hours in the game do you have ?

I don’t care about percentage man

No one does

All I’m saying

Is in the name of balance

Remove full bars

So theoretically yes someone could shoot 100%

If rp% is still in the game

Where people can shoot as well without having to do anything AT ALL

[dreamy aspen]

528

[rare bramble]

In park?

[dreamy aspen]

They should 🤷‍♂️

[dreamy aspen]

Mostly MyTeam. Some Rec

This is a huge reason I avoid Park frankly

[rare bramble]

In an online game, realism isn’t the most important, the most important is balance and fairness

Which doesn’t exist

[rare bramble]

Because you can’t hang you mean ? 🤣

[dreamy aspen]

Yeah again, more realism promotes more balance 🤷‍♂️

[rare bramble]

Potentially, but slower paced and less intense gameplay

[dreamy aspen]

No? I just don't really enjoy it. I never really have. That was kind of uncalled for

[rare bramble]

Which the consumer doesn’t want, as a whole

[dreamy aspen]

Again I don't think this is a necessary outcome and, again, we're talking solely about shooting realism, not speed realism.

[rare bramble]

Okay agree to disagree

I’ve voiced my opinion which majority of people agree

You’ve voiced yours

That’s fine

Have a good day

[zenith marsh]

If you do base percentage converted into attributes you probably have to remove badges altogether. If you do remove badges then you probably will hit something closer to 40% 3pt with nba rosters. Then you add badges which theoretically specialize players further. Then you factor in timing which the AI also uses. From my understanding attributes, badges, and openness/contest shape the timing window. Still odd to me that the AI is using timing too.

Realistically I don't think everyone jumps high for all their shots. It's kind of a thing already but having a jump and set shot could be interesting. Then you'd have a jumper for contested shots and a faster set shot for open looks. It'd probably need built in reductions for using at inopportune times. That makes it sound more like a badge though which I guess is what mismatch is supposed to do.

[dreamy aspen]

Yeah. I'm personally of the mind that most badges have been detrimental inclusions on the shooting end of things. I felt like the signature skill system in 2k13 was most balanced in that regard

[zenith marsh]

I preferred when badges were indicators of what a player could do. I think that was around 2k13 and 14. I do like the idea of badges currently though. It should be a good way to specialize play styles. Better explanations on what badges do could possibly help so players can avoid 'placebos.'

By what they do I mean percentages or ranges that badges and attributes effect outcomes. Then discussions on if interior D, vertical, and strength in builds could be a bit clearer since they seem to be skipped a lot.

[dreamy aspen]

I completely agree with that!

I think it's an over-saturation issue as much as anything honestly.

[magic halo]

Is Nba2k2020 is the final nba mobile?

[rare bramble]

Anyone else losing stamina really quickly with curry escape ?

Not even using curry slide much at all, maybe once a possession? Cos I know that drains is very quick

[rare bramble]

Yeah had multiple friends agree that it’s broken, stamina gone within ~10 moves even with handles for days

@crisp delta @left tangle

Any chance if you can confirm this is intentional or a bug?

[left tangle]

The stamina consumption should be identical with other escapes. Are you on current-gen or new-gen?

[rare bramble]

Current gen, stamina definitely drains faster with curry

Had other people agree too

[rare bramble]

Seems to be only park so far, mycourt is fine

[rare bramble]

Nvm I think a game restart and taking animations off then putting them on again has fixed it

[bleak hatch]

Yeah I play next gen and I don't see any crazy stamina lost with doing it a few times in a row. Any more than that would be crazy anyways.

[graceful tinsel]

Handles for days + 99 stamina makes it so that you can dribble out the shot clock on every possession. Stamina hasn't drained fast in a long time.

[fringe halo]

whenever im dribbling or following driblle tutorials and stuff, oonce i complete a move it kind of freezes me in place. im a placeshot with a 90 ball handle and all the right driblle moves.

any ideas?

[ornate vapor]

im not gonna lie..... 2k keeps taking my xp coins away from me every time i activate them

i had 8 coins in total

and i activated one

and they went missing

[dreamy aspen]

I know there was a point in which certain dribble packages prevented you from doing dribble moves. Jeremy Lin was effected on the MyTeam side. I thought it had been fixed though

[fringe halo]

i have tried tons of different dribble moves, ive somewhat solved the problem which is that you need to be holding turbo at certain points

[graceful tinsel]

2k has the weirdest news cycle of all time. We all know the new game is going to drop in september yet there is no news and there wont be any until they do the inevitable in game screenshots that look the exact same because there is only so much the graphics can change. Then the ratings which dont matter and are upgraded throughout the year. Then comes the soundtrack I have on mute all year have no clue why budget is wasted on that. Last step finally 2 weeks away from launch we'll get gameplay changes.

Can anyone explain this? Idk any other game that markets this way.

[velvet valley]

they don't care, and the yknow people will still buy regardless

[narrow vector]

Why come out with news now when the NBA season just winded down. Wait till momentum builds up for the upcoming season and then promote the game along with it.

[graceful tinsel]

You cant convince me that they do it based on that. There have been plenty of games where there was a big trade or free agent pick up that didnt change in the game on launch. Theyve even had some mishaps on trailers where a player who was no longer on a team ended up in the wrong jersey.

[night topaz]

I would like an understanding. Why were the animations that relates to shot creation from past 2K’s removed from 2K22? For example, the variety of pull-up jumpers, hop shots, post/shimmy fades and hooks. Why were players limited this year in terms of animations when it relates to shot creation? It’s off putting to go on 2K20-2K21 to see those variety of animations and now their gone in 2K22. Did those animations not fit the style of the game?

[velvet valley]

Likely to add as extras for MyCAREER

[digital hound]

Does anyone know how to get a crown over your head when you green a shot? Just played with a random guy who have a green crown animation over his head when he greened and a purple alien player icon I can’t find how to get them anywhere

[grizzled plover]

Those would’ve been awards from previous seasons. But if you go into edit your appearance/MyPlayer, you can go all the way over and attach one to yourself. Default was a flame I think. It should be under jump shot splash. Or something along those lines. You can also edit your player circle.

[grizzled plover]

#🤝lfg-instructions

#🤝lfg-instructions

[drifting juniper]

Does anyone play Nintendo 2k22

[crisp delta]

Does anyone have a jumpshot i have a 91 3 pointer

[simple canopy]

Set shot 25

[lapis wharf]

Yeah I have one for u it’s set shot 25 Paul George , Rudy gay, 4/4 60,40 bending

Does anyone wanna play 2k park with me

I’m a 97 ovr slagshing playmaker

Lvl 37

[simple canopy]

Melo try release 102 with it

[lapis wharf]

Alr

[quick fossil]

ps4 or pc

[lapis wharf]

Ps4

[quick fossil]

kk

i am pc

[lapis wharf]

Add me my name is TTKcobra

Oh

[quick fossil]

yeah

thats sad

[lapis wharf]

Ikr

Does anyone have ps4 2k

[mighty finch]

no i have xbox

[lapis wharf]

Alright

Lemme know if you find anyone with ps4

[quick fossil]

i can install it on ps4 but i have a 65 rated build

so

whats the best jumper jump 3 or set shot 25

[worldly coral]

Is 2k on pc any good?

[quick fossil]

i have pc 82

i like to play 2k on the pc cause its better grafics

[worldly coral]

Is it a big difference or basically the same gameplay just better graphics? Also set shot 25 better if you want a shot to shoot peaks

[quick fossil]

kk

nah but i like the pc better

[worldly coral]

Just a little harder to time

[quick fossil]

yeah ik i use set shot 25 but is it worth have the shot meter off or nah

[worldly coral]

I never have it on, I feel like it distracts me from looking at the hands. But that’s just me

[quick fossil]

but i have a 75 three shot

[lapis wharf]

Same with me

[quick fossil]

yeah i trying to have it off but i play both myteam and mycareer

s othe release is so diffirent

[worldly coral]

I have a build with a 65 3 and I still rock with no meter

[quick fossil]

yeah you are probably good tho

[worldly coral]

But it’s all preference

[lapis wharf]

No it doesn’t matter

If u are good

[quick fossil]

i have to main builds

[lapis wharf]

It distracts me if I have meter on with three ball lower then 70

[quick fossil]

75 play shot and 82 slashing playmaker

but when i made the 82 i didn't know about contact dunks so i have a 83 drive dunk

[worldly coral]

So at 99 overall you only get a 87 driving dunk?

[quick fossil]

yes but i am a 82 so its a long way to go

[worldly coral]

That’s not too bad what’s the shooting on it?

[quick fossil]

75 three ball

it's ok

but i am greening much

[worldly coral]

So you used the more blue then green pie chart?

[quick fossil]

yes

[worldly coral]

Okay good, I’m pretty sure that’s the better slashing play builds

[quick fossil]

but i have a problem with teaming up with people cause i am so low level and raiting

[jagged zodiac]

I can team up with u

[quick fossil]

pc?

[jagged zodiac]

PlayStation sorry

[worldly coral]

It doesn’t sound too fun, but Rec is your best bet

[quick fossil]

thats the problem many is hacking or cheating

with a website

[worldly coral]

Oh I didn’t know about that, pc got it rough

[quick fossil]

but is a bit fun you meet a guy who is a 99 ovr and i shooting ^very late

[worldly coral]

Yeah overall don’t matter in this game

[warped kernel]

Fax

[worldly coral]

People base it off of win%

[quick fossil]

yes

[worldly coral]

I would say your rep too, but that’s not the case anymore with the season system

[warped kernel]

Bro I can’t wait till the rookie to legend grind comes back

[jagged zodiac]

Anyone ps5?

[warped kernel]

Not me

[worldly coral]

I hope it’s soon cause this year was not it. Testing it out is one thing, but trying to make it the new system going to just ruin everything

Ps4 for me

[quick fossil]

Yeah

The shot meter off looka better

[worldly coral]

Shoulda seen it in 20

21 no meter was ight too

[lucid harbor]

I just want to ask you guys, how i can learn some basic things? (Im new, so i have smth about 4 hours on NBA)

[manic nebula]

Just watch yt videos

[vague anchor]

@lucid harbor the best way to learn basic skills will be to play with experienced players and watch NBA 2K videos to get kind of a blueprint.

[full geyser]

Xbox vlxneDemi

[lucid harbor]

I mostly need to learn how to defend

[vague anchor]

@lucid harbor defending in this game doesn't give complete control to really lock someone down how it has been previous years like NBA 2K20 but a way I play defense is you don't wanna get too close to your opponent or to far you wanna get an even spot and thats a tip for defense.

[lucid harbor]

Thanks 💜

[ivory sleet]

To you guys which nba 2k has been the best

[velvet valley]

idk, I keep saying 13 but idk

[ivory sleet]

I started in 18

[velvet valley]

I started in 13, but 14 (one with LeBron James) was probably one of the worst because of how bad shooting was in MyCareer

or scoring, rather

[naive flume]

2k pls upgrade the paint defensive

Defence

[crisp delta]

NBA 2K18, people call it one of the worst 2k of all time but it was the year I started playing basketball and I enjoyed it

[naive flume]

Same

[velvet valley]

same but 13

[vague anchor]

@ivory sleet My favorite would have to be NBA 2K20

[crisp delta]

I like it too

But not number 1

[solid jacinth]

2k add a ultra violet tier card

[vague anchor]

@crisp delta I agree it might not be number one but I like it for how good the defensive system was.

[keen grove]

2K needs to make it easier to grind the park

[full geyser]

Idc wht nobody say, 2k19 was the best 2k

[ivory sleet]

I think that’s my favorite too

[ivory sleet]

That was good too. It was much easier to make a shot in that

[velvet valley]

they gotta fix stealing though. I twas good in 14, but not much outside that

[vague anchor]

I miss the little cinematic movie 2K they used to do

[crisp delta]

I didn't find it that bad

[crisp delta]

What movie?

[crisp delta]

One of my favorites too

[vague anchor]

@crisp delta you remember like the intros as soon as you booted the game up like in 2K16

[crisp delta]

Ohhh I liked them but sometimes my game lagged and made me watch the video again and I couldn't skip it

I hate that

[dreamy aspen]

16 easily

[dreamy aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/some-men-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn-batman-alfred-quotes-gif-14054558

18 was... so bad lol. I still have nightmares of the opposing team coming down the floor on offense from that game 😂

[crisp delta]

It's an opinion

[dreamy aspen]

Oh I'm not saying anything about that lol

I definitely get it!

[crisp delta]

Ok just saying

[velvet valley]

https://tenor.com/view/tamra-gif-19305774

[dreamy aspen]

I'm just saying that 18 was roughhhhh in the scheme of things lol

But I totally get that you'd love it as an intro to the series