Samurai Jack

[jaunty swan]

I know he was changed but his identity is untouched, im sure at higher levels of play the grab was used more but most peoples grab cant be direction changed so thats fair. His jab is still very very good. His side special is still very very good just not insane and impossible to dodge

Hes like a better smith. Not saying hes busted but hes totally fine

[leaden root]

honestly i think this nerf might be beneficial

it forces us to improve to keep up

try new things, etc...

[leaden sedge]

still pfg deleting one of his moves from being useful:

wont say grab is useless now but why go for it

[leaden root]

grab still has a lot of use

[tough axle]

batman somehow got worse things this patch im ngl he feels so bad, whereas jack still feels fun to play

im gonna lose my mind arghhhh

[leaden sedge]

it is but only in 1s basically

in 2s u ll get interrupted

and will get u killed if their teamate has a braincell

but u can work around it

[leaden sedge]

yea he feels ass

cant cancel divekick too

[tough axle]

😭

[tall ore]

dude the nerfs literally gotta go. this is not fun

Why can superman do what the old grab did but he actually goes further with his up b so can land it easier at the ledge where reversing it is important

Why can't grab turn around projectiles anymore?

The up air nerf also makes no sense it doesn't combo into itself the only way to make it link into itself is when the opponent has no dodges that's it. at that point you've earned having a up air that's like a smash bros up air

Iron Giant can still 0 to death like it's nothing and Joker is 1 step behind that.

Wonder Woman can give herself armour and leave you with nowhere to go except off stage and if you do go offstage she can spam lasso and make it impossible to get back on stage without getting hit.

[jaunty swan]

The insane characters indeed need to be toned down but superman and ww arent problem

[tall ore]

If I wasn't so close to master I'd not complain and go play someone else but that would mean starting from square 1 in a rank system that's probably the most difficult to progress in than any game I've ever played

[jaunty swan]

Jack also has way more range than those two so them getting a bit more love in one field isnt crazy

I think theyre balancing needs a ton of work though theyre not very good about it

Their*

[tall ore]

those 2 aren't the biggest issue but they're so better than Samurai Jack. I'm more complaining about the characters that are way better than Samurai Jack Like iron Giant and Joker

Samurai Jack needs a buff to be on level with the average character so it's not really a big deal to say superman or especially ww are better

[jaunty swan]

Idk if theyre better or not but yeah i think the cast either needs to be brought up or they need to do better at nerfing the problems

Smiths grab is probably more doodoo than jacks so could be worse

[tall ore]

Smith is also worse than Ww and superman but his grab gives a debuff at least

[carmine quartz]

Honestly, I put a TON of weight and value on kill confirms and kill moves that are consistent and reliable.

Portal Beetle doesn't count, isn't practical so it isn't reliable. For example.

Jack struggles to kill on stage. He has very limited options. Because he has limited options he becomes annoying. He needs some adjustments.

[leaden sedge]

nerfs the only reliable kill option

who no one ever complained about

[jaunty swan]

I feel like the point of jack is just someone who wins neutral and through that constant bullying eventually gets the kill

[carmine quartz]

Someone said “if you relied on grab to get kills then you're bad” with Jack lol.
Jack doesn't have many kill options. Grab was one of them.
Nerfed.

@leaden sedge

[leaden sedge]

BRUH BROH

[carmine quartz]

That's what it feels like. And I don't like it. I just want to do my combo and some reads and get out.

Its so bad that I see other Jacks play like Finn.
Jab combo. Run away. Jab combo. Run away. Side be.
That is SO boring.
I don't play like that. But the moveset and gameplay encourage it

[deft scroll]

I unlocked lost jack

Time to try him

[leaden sedge]

and nerfs too

[carmine quartz]

YES. Exactly. They made it worse.

I mix in nair, fair, and barely even Jab. I throw out side b a lil too

[marsh idol]

Jack need more nerf

[carmine quartz]

He needs a buff

[deft scroll]

Is it just me or is jack actually really bad now

He needed everything that he had before because he couldn't kill

Him getting his edgeguarding destroyed means he literally just can't do anything anymore

[jaunty swan]

Sounds like top level gameplay all around for MV honestly

[deft scroll]

He didn't use to be like that, but he is now
Trying not to play him like that just makes it worse for you unfortunately

[zenith zinc]

Are the nerfs really bad?

I felt like he was relatively balanced before. Side B was somewhat annoying especially off stage but I felt like that was pretty much it

[drowsy idol]

I agree with all of you. It’s so hard for Jack to get a kill now. Nerfing the side special was the only necessary change he needed

[leaden root]

honestly I think the nerfs are mostly okay ? just remove the stupid nerf on up air and give his ground down special more reliable hits when comboed with jab and we're good

[tall ore]

when a character is not the best in the game and you nerf them this hard there should be some compensation buffs why only nerfs especially to this degree

[leaden sedge]

noice rage bait

[leaden root]

just ignore them, they never have anything positive to say

[leaden sedge]

ik already

[leaden root]

nice

[royal shadow]

Jack did need a side b nerf, but sheesh

[visual bolt]

I think what he needed the most was an Aerial Down Special nerf, as someone who's secondary is Jack I thought the hitboxes for it were strangely generous

I'd feel like I didn't deserve the hits I'd usually get on it and end up surprised it did land

[tall ore]

please let bro have an ounce of sauce 😭

[drowsy idol]

A couple ounces 🙏🏽, samurai jack is arguably the coolest character in the game. He should play that way too

[digital crow]

It say seeing the two big Reddits the Official one and the other kinds just be negative and stuff like that

[digital crow]

It's crazy seeing how much people are complaining and not realizing how small pfg actually is

[tough axle]

Change that garbage ai pfp dawg

[carmine quartz]

For real. They complain hard too.

[visual bolt]

I don't think most of us are complaining either

[royal shadow]

Everyone complains

[royal shadow]

I just beat a Platinum Gizmo named SirPooks and got into Gold Ranked.

[remote apex]

you got me good 🤝 you literally got me searching for jacks matchup chart to find a new main 😂 😅

[royal shadow]

Oh shoot! Well hey dude you did well too!

[quick iron]

how to counter iron giant

[tall ore]

🤣

[carmine quartz]

Oh yes I am complaining that Black Adam clap still isn't nerfed lol for example.
But they did target good things for the update, good step in right direction.
Like we need tech in this game.

[fresh night]

Jump good

[frank pasture]

only children play this character

[carmine quartz]

Children don't even know who Jack is

[digital crow]

I find it funny people are saying this is kinda a patchwork solution or thst hitboxes still need to be reworked, as I said most of the hitboxes aren't insane it's more so a latency thing

[carmine quartz]

I agree but Black Adam is actual, you can go in training mode and see with no latency

[digital crow]

I mostly think it's his nair

That move shouldn't cover his entire body

and I play black Adam now an again and i think that move is a bit bs due to its size

[carmine quartz]

Isn't nair clap?

Its a giant circle that extends behind him (hitbox)

[leaden root]

there's nothing more frustrating than losing in ranked and knowing it was mostly because you played like an amateur

[tough axle]

Fr

[fresh night]

How would y’all describe Jack’s play style

He seems pretty fun to me

[leaden root]

wait to see what the opponent might do, ruin their plans/predict where they'll be and go to town on them. then retreat and repeat

[wispy whale]

how to counter projectile spammers like bugs and Marvin?

any tips

[leaden root]

shadow step perk, use ground neutral b

[carmine quartz]

He utilizes spacing more than others.

[quick iron]

having fun, not expecting to win all the time

[leaden sedge]

i ve become a samurai myself

[leaden root]

they need to fix the matchmaking in that game : 2 matches, one I end up against a gold 3, the other with a MASTERS 2 (i'm plat 2, that's 2 rank above me 😭 )

[ripe trellis]

You gotta swing up sometimes

[leaden root]

Yes but masters ?! That's too close to the sun

[ripe trellis]

In order to become a god you must first battle with them.... And win.

[leaden root]

The worst part is that there was a chance I'd win

Boy that would have hyped me up something fierce

[quick iron]

does anybody know the number 1 jack?

[ripe trellis]

In 1s or 2s?

Ive fought the no 1 2s jack

[quick iron]

1s

[edgy ledge]

does jab 1, 2, into down special with river's flurry (signature perk version) not work anymore?

[leaden sedge]

never worked in the first place

[tough axle]

Yeah never worked

[acoustic nymph]

it works its just not true

i use it whenever i notice my opponent doesnt dodge out of it

[edgy ledge]

oh, before it seemed true but I could be trippin

[quick iron]

It works with the perk, but youre better off just doin jab+jab+down

[edgy ledge]

aight

[leaden root]

it works on some characters but not on most, river's flurry is still a good perk tho

[edgy ledge]

yeah I was trying to use it on certain characters like shaggy or batman, which to my memory worked before but now seems they can just walk out. I think I'll just stick to it on heavier bigger characters tho ngl

too inconsistent on the small to medium size fighters for me

[vernal spruce]

PLEASE NERF MORE

[uncut gulch]

Buff SJ just to make people mad

[distant tinsel]

Sadly true.

On the brightside tho Season 5 actually feels like it grew up with it's audience.

So I can apperciate it for that.

[distant tinsel]

Imma keep it a buck 50.
It's not that tech specfically was needed. It's moreso there's loops galore that they wanted to get rid of.

[marsh idol]

Nerf jeck please

[leaden sedge]

buff your skill instead ;)

[carmine quartz]

Jack needs to be buffed.

I want to see more tears about Jack being number one best character in game

I mean… the guy is Samurai Jack. He deserves it

[distant tinsel]

Someone should make a tier list of how rough every Multiversus' characters life is.
I would do it myself, but I haven't finished or even started some of these series (Adventure Time, Scooby Doo, Game of Thrones)
I would barely know how to start on some characters.

I don't expect Jack to be at the top of course, but I'd say batman lowkey had it easy losing just his parents if you catch my drift.

[carmine quartz]

Naw Jack is pretty up there.
Probably the worst case scenario tbh

[distant tinsel]

I'd rather be Samurai Jack than Rick Sanchez.

Das about it off the top of my head.

Bitter emotional agony showdown.

Septuagenarians try to settle who misses their wife more.

[tall ore]

ngl I think rick is better than jack rn

All I want for Jack is for up air to be reverted, neutral b to allow me to change the direction of projectiles and for the rest of the cast to be balanced around that level.

Also Airwalker should be removed it's so unhealthy for the game

[carmine quartz]

I think anyone would lol. Rick sucks I don’t wanna be him lol

Jack though… he’s everything

That you’d want to be

[leaden root]

gosh darnit , this time it was against grandmaster #91

[leaden sedge]

jack had a really rough life

probs equal to batman

but rick since it s a.. not good person/a person to look upon, you wouldn't want to be him

instead of heroes like jack

[carmine quartz]

The fact that there’s a huge unknown years of Jack life and journey is another thing.

I’d say his life is more rough than Batman.
He lost his parents, his home, his entire civilization, and even more… the entire world and cosmos because he was tricked by AKU.
That’s a heavy burden. And that’s just one thing.

(I’m huge Batman fan. And a huge Samurai Jack fan. I’m wearing a Batman shirt rn lol. So I understand both I get it.)

[ripe trellis]

Jacks story is much heavier than Batmans.

Batman chose to take up crime fighting for Gotham

Jack HAD to fight his way back home, he had no other choice, he lost everything (spoilers) ||including the one he loved||. Aku absolutely screwed Jack over, and continued to screw with him over and over again until he got home, and even after being defeated gave Jack the biggest middle finger even in death.

It's not a contest Jacks story is simply way more tragic.

[shadow grotto]

Fr

Anyways side special is way too fast😭🙏

[quick iron]

wish it would kill earlier

[leaden sedge]

same

[carmine quartz]

I can’t believe players are still complaining about Jack side b. “It needs a cooldown”….

I would actually consider uninstalling if they nerfed Jack again and gave his side b a cooldown.

[naive urchin]

Jack is pretty low tier rn

[carmine quartz]

I’m so tired of balance decisions like that

[carmine quartz]

That’s not what a “Tom n Jerry” main thinks

Who can literally combo you to the end of time

And zone you out and stall the entire match

Jack is barely hanging on to being viable

But nope

[naive urchin]

The only thing jack needed was hitbox fixes but people yapped to much

[carmine quartz]

I’M the problem for thinking Side B doesn’t need a cooldown and Tom n Jerry need a nerf to his down air hitbox and paddle loop

[naive urchin]

Maybe the concentration gain speed nerf also was neccesary but nothing else

[carmine quartz]

Right? This community is getting me depressed

[naive urchin]

People yap too much

Imagine yapping at jason

[carmine quartz]

IVE HEARD AND SEEN THE JASON YAP

It’s so dumb

[naive urchin]

For some reason everyone started to yap at him

[carmine quartz]

Like guys common!

It’s like complaining about Bowser or Ganondorf in Smash

[naive urchin]

Its funny how he was the joke of multiversus

As soon they removed loops with the mid season patch everyone started yapping about him

[carmine quartz]

lol that’s true

[uncut gulch]

Welcome to the MVS community, people will complain about any and every character, especially their mains

[light pier]

Rightfully so because the balance team for this game sucks.

[uncut gulch]

When your playing Joker and complaining about him tho

The problem is I will see everyone complain about every character being broken then immediately diss their mains, some characters I get it and can see it, but then with like Finn or Joker and such its like, nah your good

[light pier]

The only character I complain about is Lebron, and it's because it's LITERALLY the worst character in the game now.

[uncut gulch]

Yep

[light pier]

Yeah complaining about Finn or Joker is just stupid.

[craggy sail]

"So! When does the magic begin? :D"

[fading lagoon]

What does Jack do against Smith? My moves feel so slow and useless :/

[quick iron]

Try to hit him with down air special before he Hits you with that annoying up air. And most smith players play passive, so dont approach them, their jab hitbox is just ridiculous

[marsh idol]

Nerf jack

[leaden sedge]

buff ur skill

[marsh idol]

I don't understand how people can be so dogs to abuse Jack and Morty

[edgy ledge]

he already was nerfed stop trying to break my guys ankles, man

[edgy ledge]

Jack mains, how do you beat superman and tnj I'm struggling to get out of platinum 😭

[leaden sedge]

both are really hard match ups in general

with superman u wanna predict his laser and hit him immediately as he goes up

or

counter his laser

with either shadowstep or normal projectile

try also to bait sniper punch

and for armored moves use too fast to block or punish

[vernal spruce]

yo ong samurai jack needs a nerf

jabs are insane

kick is insane

morty isn't doing a thing, my jabs just get demolished by jacks

[marsh idol]

well, it's still op, if you're at the edge of the map against jack you're dead

[wet widget]

hate how one of the coolest characters is one of the most annoying to fight

can any of you do anything but spam side special

[leaden sedge]

skill issue

[marsh idol]

NERF JACK

[leaden sedge]

skill issue 2

[marsh idol]

I agree, for those who use it, you don't need to be skilled to use it

[leaden sedge]

who u playin as again

[wet widget]

so im right then. you have no mechanical skill

just another spammer

[leaden sedge]

i am saying it is on your end lol

[wet widget]

i can counter it. i just hatethat none of jack's players put any effort in themselves

down attacking all match isnt fun

[leaden sedge]

on your view just 3 chars have effort lmao

i see you in every channel complaining

[wet widget]

adam jack and shaggy yes

[leaden sedge]

and if u re getting destroyed by nerfed jack u have a rlly big skill issue too

[wet widget]

im not being deestroyed, and i nevere said anythign about nerfs

i think its annoying that a cool moveset is wasted by 90% of jack players

they all spam

how dare i get upset at that

jack;s overall balance isnt that bad

i just want spam to stop cuase its annoying and a waste of the character

smae applies to shaggy

i can get around it, but it doesnt mean i have to love it

[leaden sedge]

then why u re coming here to rant u aint gonna find the spammers lmao

it s not enjoyable okay but fight it and win cuz it s rare for me to see a jack spammer

[wet widget]

thats just bs. 90% of the people on theese characters ive found play like that. the discord is decently sized.

youre at the very peak

im only play 2

plat

it is a ridiculously common thing

not as bad as shaggy but still very prevalent

[leaden sedge]

i remember my climbing

[wet widget]

were you not here for jack's launch when spamming was actually kind of busted

[leaden sedge]

either ur spamming definition is weird or u re really unlucky

it never was busted for me

[wet widget]

that first chunk of comp was awful. he got focus stupidly fast back then, and the hitboxes made it so easy to land

he's been toned down since then

[marsh idol]

By the way, for me Jack is the only OP along with TJ's frying pan loop.

if it was my problem of lack of skill it would mean that only playing against Jack requires skill this would mean that only Jack is OP.

I don't know if you can follow the reasoning.

[leaden sedge]

the hitboxes were wrong

that s true

[leaden sedge]

jack being op with tj's loop is so ragebait loool

[wet widget]

you dont see spammers like this with batman or lebron

i hate people downplaying how common it is

i still see shaggy spammers but im supposed to be at a point where rtehy stop showing up according to that other channel

[leaden sedge]

batman divekick spam is not a thing for u?

[wet widget]

i know there's at least some in these channels and i want them to get that theyre not doing themselves any favors playing like dummys

[leaden sedge]

i dont wanna mention lebron ball spam cuz it s his kit

[wet widget]

ok maybe not a good example. i dont see a lot of batman in general

[leaden sedge]

Yeah.

[wet widget]

weridly hard to find

[leaden sedge]

they re not gonna listen to u bud

if they win and get results they re gonna continue

[wet widget]

cool game design

i lvoe it when skilless players get rewarded

[leaden sedge]

atleast u can punish them pretty easily

[wet widget]

i play marvin. he's not f tier or anything but it takes more skill to be good with him compared to those characters

[marsh idol]

-Jack need nerf
-TJ need nerf (endless frying
-Almost forgot about Morty, he's for dumbs

[wet widget]

its the most frustrating thing seeing this be teh common thing

[leaden sedge]

and where does he need nerfs again

[wet widget]

ig that's true

[leaden sedge]

if it s on side b i win 200 dollars

[leaden sedge]

atleast you can predict them and set up rocket pretty quickly

[wet widget]

true

[leaden sedge]

but tbh

godspeed for the marvin maining

[wet widget]

thanks

[leaden sedge]

i understand ur complainings

[wet widget]

kudos to you for getting where you are

top 10 in a populat character sounds like such a grind

[leaden sedge]

thx, at first i thought u were just an hater but i had to understand ur ways

[leaden sedge]

being 8th it is a pain cuz then u have actual top tiers

steven (kind of) , ig or joker

[wet widget]

stevens can be so scarry

[leaden sedge]

the hotspot in his up air

is scary

[marsh idol]

Are you talking about Jack or Morty?
Morty is embarrassing, he's totally broken.
Jack spams skills too much, skills have too much range, skills hitbox is insane

[leaden sedge]

his spam is pretty punishable tbh

btw i won the money from the bet let's goo

[vernal spruce]

nerf jack

[leaden sedge]

🗿

[marsh idol]

Unfortunately the game is doomed for two reasons:

• People like him who defend characters like Jack without being objective.
• Developers who nerf characters like Lebron instead of thinking about Jack, TJ, Steven, Joker, Morty, Gizmo

Multiversus is continuously going downhill

[leaden sedge]

u didnt even counter lols

his spam is really punishable i dont get what u re trying to say

[marsh idol]

but what are you saying I don't understand, call it spam, call it loop, once he takes you from the center of the map he takes you to the edge you're practically dead, the range and hitbox of his skills is so big that you're dead

[leaden sedge]

no u re not lol his stuff is pretty dodgeable ?

[distant tinsel]

Jack is like the last character in the game who can meaingingfully loop.

At most he'll get an jab then bounce you into another jab.

Are you sure you're DI'ing properly?

[vernal spruce]

nerf jack

[carmine quartz]

Go Nerf yourself

Ridiculous

MVS community is annoying

Casuals still complaining about Side B.

If Side B gets another nerf I will strongly consider uninstalling this game.
I don’t advocate for balancing characters that way.

The ONLY thing Jacks… and EVERY spam player spams is JAB.
That’s not a problem with Jack.
That’s an issue with the Game itself

Hence “Jab Verses”

To make things even worse.
Jack has little to no combo routes

So it encourages Jab. Over n over. Jab 3. Jab 3

Because what is Jack gonna do?
He has little to none true combos

[naive urchin]

Arguing about jack post mid season is kill issue

Even for jasons and that guy struggles with half roster

[marsh idol]

the problem is not just Side B, it's everything, the skill range and hitbox are incredibly large compared to other characters, once you're at the edge of the map you're dead, and don't tell me "just dodge" even the other characters' skills can be dodged but the hitbox is 1/10 compared to Jack's, Smith's slap comes to mind, it has a ridiculous hitbox, while Jack does a sword swipe of almost 360 degrees, but it's not just this, all of Jack's skills are like that

[tough axle]

Nah

Lmao

[obsidian crane]

this might be a skill issue

[leaden sedge]

the only big thing here is your skill issue man

and it s bigger than black adam's clap

[marsh idol]

*if it was my problem of lack of skill it would mean that only playing against Jack requires skill this would mean that only Jack is OP.

I don't know if you can follow the reasoning.*

as I imagined you are not able to understand the reasoning, probably like all the main Jacks

[leaden sedge]

who ever stated that playing only against jack requires skill ?

i said skill issue not skill issue dodging side b

stop the rage bait brother it s not working

if u want it more clear then i am gonna say learn how to dodge so u can clearly understand it now, sorry didnt know u needed it

[gritty fable]

Jack is fine rn

There's way worse

Joker, Finn, WW, Arya, IG, Black Adam, Shaggy

[distant tinsel]

Playing against jack requires skill
Mean that only Jack is OP.

Man you guys wanna be carried sooooooooooooo bad.

[frank crane]

pls adjust Jack jab1. the hitbox is ??? truly.

[marsh idol]

if I consider Jack OP and you tell me that it is my skill problem this presupposes that I am not able to play, if I am not able to play should everyone be OP for me, or only playing against Jack requires knowing how to play? in that case Jack is OP

if you know what I mean

[leaden sedge]

u re not able to play, period

if u have problems with jack u ll have problems with other chars as well

learn the match up and go on

[marsh idol]

I can't play against Jack alone, he's OP for me.
maybe he's too strong compared to the others, I have no problem with the others, maybe TJ's infinite frying pan or Morty's combos, but Jack is broken everywhere.

Let's nerf it and move on

[leaden sedge]

for YOU

because you dont know how to punish or dodge properly

let's say you need proper learning and move on

[visual bolt]

Love how the game lies to you
Says you can't lose more than your previous match's XP gain when losing in the patch notes

Also Jack doesn't really scream OP to me
Especially after the recent patch he got slaughtered

[leaden sedge]

yeah

[visual bolt]

Honestly I'm shocked Jack's Aerial special didn't get nerfed yet his grab did

I love his grab it's such a funny move yet it already wasn't very good and it's even more so after the patch

I play Jack as a secondary and I used to love getting the reverse grab hits those were nutty

Can't do that anymore however :(

I love getting KOs with with crappy moves I already do that with Smith's Up Special just to be funny

[leaden sedge]

yeah

it was so good

[carmine quartz]

That’s the thing. It was FUN. And was nowhere near being “broken”.
It should come back. Especially with no armor now. There’s no reason to just delete that from the game.
Decisions like that make me have serious questions

Does grab even break armor anymore?

[distant tinsel]

I'm not gonna lie I wasn't a fan of the armored grab reversal offstage, but I'm glad someone enjoyed that.

[carmine quartz]

My point is the deletion of an entire function of a move.
Reversal.
Fine whatever, you took away armor.
But why the reverse grab?
That’s the fun about it.
Not the armor. That’s just icing on the cake

[quick iron]

whos your main

[quick iron]

dude... there are like, a gazillion characters better then jack, and you choose to complain about him out of everyone else? sheesh. oh and his hitboxes only hit straight instead of hitting where the sword is, unlike characters like tnj and arya, if youre having hitbox problems with jack you gotta either be a tank main or be under diamond. if youre over plat, im sorry for ya man. i dont mean to insult you but skill issue. fin

[quick iron]

oh btw heres something extra for ya #off-topic message

[marsh idol]

this is the point you still haven't understood, only with jack I have this problem, and not only me, many people complain. It means that jack has something wrong, let's say you are not very smart to understand the problem

[quick iron]

this guy

[carmine quartz]

That’s literally impossible. You can’t ONLY struggle against Jack. If you struggle against Jack and you’ve convinced yourself that he has a “problem” and is among the absolute best in the entire game top tier. Then you have issues against other characters not only Jack.

[leaden sedge]

hmmm so u dont struggle with joker and black adam huh, sure buddy

[carmine quartz]

I know this to be true because there are multiple characters that simply better than Jack

[leaden sedge]

u either are unlucky to meet the strongest jacks which outskill u and the worst BA and Joker players

or you re malding

[quick iron]

if jack gets another nerf im for sure deleting this game

[leaden sedge]

i think it s more of that you re crying bud

sorry to break it to you

[carmine quartz]

He’s the biggest casual player that only plays Rifts or he’s just a lier

The constant crying like that and the players that continuously gripe about the game is what is making the devs go insane

[leaden sedge]

devs gotta understand that there s people unwillingly to get gud

i wouldnt say listen to pro players only but

[carmine quartz]

I know exactly what you mean @leaden sedge
Players want to be held by the hand…
I mean. There’s “auto tech” in the game. What Platformer has auto tech? Not any I’ve played.
So the devs are catering to this “hand holding” in different ways.
There needs to balance in these things.
Loops in a Platformer is one thing.
Not being a able to dodge or simply jump over a move like Jack side b is another. Two different things

(Not to mention you can clank with Jacks Side B)

[leaden sedge]

yeaa

[marsh idol]

Let's say that apart from Jack another character that doesn't make sense is Morty, I don't find any big problems with the others

[obsidian crane]

is there a DI to avoid geting jabbed into groundbounce to jabbed again

[leaden sedge]

di towards jack

[obsidian crane]

yeah fair enough

[edgy ledge]

this is what I've been doing recently, after I see him run up I try to get a few kills off the top but I didn't know I shadow step the laser lol

so far fighting supes has been getting easier

[leaden sedge]

np helping u

[edgy ledge]

thank you 🙏🏾

[gritty fable]

Jack rn is annoying

Not broken

Just very very annoying

[quick iron]

yeh he can be annoying against a jason

[gritty fable]

I fought you

[quick iron]

try using neutral special

[gritty fable]

Today

I was playing Beetlejuice

SonicDonut

[quick iron]

i bet i lost

[gritty fable]

No you won

[gritty fable]

I mean yea

My Beetlejuice still isn't what it could be

[quick iron]

so umm , was i playin good or annoying

[gritty fable]

Both

That's how the character is rn

[quick iron]

good at the center, annoying at ledge

[gritty fable]

And I got hit by like every down b out of hitstun in the universe

[quick iron]

thats like every jack rn, ledge guarding is our only hope to kill

[gritty fable]

Yeaaaaaa

[quick iron]

and we cant even ledge guard against most of the characters

[gritty fable]

You can

Just not easy

[quick iron]

well tnj, black adam, bugs, harley, batman, stripe

these are pretty hard to edgeguard

oh lemme add morty too

[empty spruce]

Ban worthy

Btw i think Jacks jab does need nerfs

Not a big one tho

Just make it have more start up and whiff lag

[carmine quartz]

How is that ban worthy?

I swear, players just pop up in here to complain, tell you that your character is broken, and to start something

You know how many times players have literally called me something in this server?

Jack doesn’t need a jab nerf

Jabs are an issue with the game itself

[quick iron]

if they give him more combo potential i would agree on that

but his jab is the only way to actually achieve the damage of a combo he never had

the only thing i really want rn is a knock back increase on his normal attacks, or an up special buff

[leaden sedge]

yes

[quick iron]

Dude whats your rank with jack

[leaden sedge]

master I, grinding for grand

[quick iron]

Kudos man

[leaden sedge]

thx brother

[quick iron]

Cant belive there are so many Jacks in master

[carmine quartz]

Right?
I feel same for Shaggy. Nerf his knockback and give his combo game back. Rn he’s just “1-2-Dead” lol.

Jack needs some knockback buff on a normal and I agree up special knockback buff would be perfect.

[spice wharf]

how heavy is jack?

i feel like is lighter than what he should be but i might be wrong

[stray mauve]

hes velma weight

[marsh idol]

I keep saying that Jack is embarrassing, the skill range takes up the whole map, if you meet a strong Jack you lose, if you are out of the side map you are 100% dead

I'm waiting for the main jacks' answers

[marsh idol]

I caught 5 jacks in 6 games, broken abusers

[edgy ledge]

why do you come here to complain about Jack 😕

[leaden sedge]

let him be, he doesnt wanna listen to any point anyway

[edgy ledge]

true, aight

[quick iron]

hey can you teach me how to do the jab+jab+ air neutral special?

[leaden sedge]

i can

[quick iron]

yay

[leaden sedge]

u already know how to do IAD?

[quick iron]

nope, thats what i wanna learn

[leaden sedge]

u use ur stick to move?

[quick iron]

yeh

[leaden sedge]

okay so you want to put your stick diagonally ( up right ) and dodge, after that press neutral special

[quick iron]

its that easy?

damn

[quick iron]

left stick right?

[leaden sedge]

the one u use for moving

[leaden sedge]

yes

[quick iron]

yeh figured it out

but damn it still sucks

[quick iron]

is it even worth loosing a dodge?

a master jack finished me off with it once but it was near the ledge

[leaden sedge]

trust me it s worth it since jack has no reliable kill confirm

[quick iron]

well when should i use it?

can you recommend any settings so i can pull it off 100 percent?

cause 1/5 tries it doesnt work

[leaden sedge]

i use dead zone 18 and buffer 15

but the combo itself isnt reliable

[quick iron]

deadzone 18 on all options?

[leaden sedge]

yes

[hard prism]

I’m now #155 jack 34 rp away from master v give me your energy my fellow jacks

[visual bolt]

You got this!!

[drowsy idol]

I was curious what settings others use. Thanks for sharing. I think I have my buffer at 20. 15 is the sweet spot?

[drowsy idol]

Hell yea!

[fresh night]

What perks should I get for Jack? Kinda find his moves fun to land

[drowsy idol]

I rock 5% , snowball, 100, pugilist.

I switch to shadow step perk for projectile spammers

[fresh night]

Hm ok

If I can just stick with 5% then that saves me perk currency lol

A lot of my characters kinda be using the same perks

[drowsy idol]

I feel the same way. I don’t see too much variety uses between characters for perks.

💯 about perk currency tho lol, I’m still saving up to edit another character lol

[fresh night]

Yeah, wondering about changing up my Superman’s perks too

Maybe I’ll just get snowball for now because Jack is a fairly mobile character as far as I can tell

Idk how heavy he is tho

He seems middle weight to me

[drowsy idol]

For Superman I just learned that flame doc perk is amazing on him

[fresh night]

Oh yeah I’m using that one combined with his frost breath signature

Just having a hard time actually using frost breathing without just getting hit for it lol

[drowsy idol]

Yea jack pretty mid weight. He can totally be mobile with the dodge land tech

[fresh night]

In training mode I figured out that if you hit someone with frost breath and have the flame doc on them, then hit them with the heat vision while they’re on the ground and bounce them up

The flame effect of the heat vision and the perk stack I think

Adds up to about 10% but idk how true that is

Landing the heat vision on its own is just about like 6% or something idk

[drowsy idol]

Yea I use frost breath as a I’m moving away from someone, then dodge in with sair for the hit. I also frost breath as edgeguard haha

[fresh night]

Yeah the hit box is kinda big lol

[drowsy idol]

This is dope!

[fresh night]

Maybe I just gotta practice it

[fresh night]

Yeah it is but really hard to land cause the opponent has more than enough time to move out of the way of the beam

Think it has to be the hit box where the beams hit the ground for it to work too

[drowsy idol]

Ah copy that. I will def try this soon

[fresh night]

Yeah test it out in training mode

[leaden sedge]

yes

[fresh night]

What exactly is dead zone?

[leaden sedge]

basically the distance you have to move your stick for it to be considered as an input

lower deadzone, lower distance and so faster input

[humble oyster]

How is jack doing? I love the character, how well does he perform?

[edgy ledge]

he performs pretty good but it depends on your playstyle and patience

he has really get edge guard and kill power off ledges too

also his move look dope and you can pull off some crazy things with the right reads

@humble oyster

[humble oyster]

But he is lacking on combos?

[quick iron]

he feels "Ok", performs really well against low/mid skill players but kinda underperforms against high skilled ones. all of the knock back is on his special kit so its pretty much harders to kill with your normal and faster kit

[quick iron]

pretty much

[edgy ledge]

he has little to know combos, only combo he has is jab jab down tilt, and on ground bounce (rarely happens) you can get jab jab up tilt after and that's about it

just jab

[quick iron]

wish it would work everytime

but its functionality is bugged and can only be performed under 40 dmg on light characters and 60 dmg on heavy characters

[quick iron]

by "bugged" , i mean it might not work in some maps or some instances

so we cant really confirm he has a "true" combo or not

[leaden sedge]

it s not bugged

it s about how they DI

if u DI towards Jack, the bounce will NEVER happen

allowing Jack to have no combos at ALL

[quick iron]

Ohhhhh I get it now

Welp thats sad tbh

[leaden sedge]

i hopee for s3 or at this point marceline

[visual bolt]

I was gonna say I'm in Diamond 1 but then

I dropped into Diamond 2 after Gizmo exploding car tech

I was 89 points away from Masters but now I'm 119 I lost 30 points

I have to win 12 matches because I'm only getting 10 per win

WHAAAAAT

I THOUGHT CONCEDING LOST YOU 10 POINTS BUT IT LOSES YOU 19!!!

Now I have to do 14 matches I hate this

Everything was going so smoothly

And just when it's from reach I fall back again

I will never ask for anything again if it means I can get into Masters please

just let me make it to masters im losing it

i lost 60 points in twenty minutes why

make that 80 points in 25

this games matchmaking is awful

I'm not saying I don't like it personally I'm saying objectively it's atrocious

Why is it based off of a hidden MMR stat and not your recent wins and losses like Unranked is

How did people even figure out that Hidden MMR was a thing if it was hidden

[humble oyster]

Your avatar is fire

[visual bolt]

Oh! Thank you actually that is making me feel a tad better, it's a sketch a buddy did of my fursona and I'm proud of it as well so like
That's really nice to hear

[edgy ledge]

happened to me a hour ago and now I'm 150 points away from diamond, fml

[quick iron]

I suggest closing the game if you know youre gonna loose, youll get banned from matchmaking for some minutes but atleast you only loose 10

[distant tinsel]

Grimy.

But I respect the hustle.

[quick iron]

guys ive done it, i hit master

[edgy ledge]

congrats, how bad was the grind?

[quick iron]

some times good somtimes bad, tonight was a no loose streak against master lebrons and igs

from 16 rp to 100

[edgy ledge]

damn, good job

[quick iron]

i got lucky they didnt match me up with any taz or tnj

if taz players know how to not fall for the command grab im cooked

[edgy ledge]

I thought you would've atleast had a few, I've seen them nonstop

[quick iron]

yeh these two days were really pleasent ngl

had a good time somehow

[edgy ledge]

wish I could say the same bruh 😭 nonetheless good dubs

[quick iron]

ngl till this day i thought lebron was really impossible to beat

but i guess you just gotta avoid the down air special cause that can give them a zero to death combo sometimes

but theyre pretty chill, thats what i like about them

[edgy ledge]

real quick, how do y'all handle harley?

[quick iron]

air down special

avoid nair

done

[quick iron]

she'll sometimes try doing multiple nairs back to back

[edgy ledge]

bet

[edgy ledge]

this the thing that's been getting me

[quick iron]

yup, knew it

[visual bolt]

Everytime I make progress I fall back even further than when I started

This is awful

[visual bolt]

Bad

It's like I'll win twice, gain only 10 points each, but then lose once and I lose 19. The cycle repeats and I'm practically gaining only one point every 20 minutes

At this rate I'll never make it to Masters before the end of the Season, I'm in Diamond II and 150 points away

[leaden sedge]

@visual bolt want to play rn?

[visual bolt]

Actually quite nice of you thank you

KenTheBruh is my username whenever you have time

[leaden sedge]

sent

[visual bolt]

One second I'm helping my dad with something

[quick iron]

Ay you'll get there dont worry

You just gotta wait for the moment

[visual bolt]

Made it to Diamond 1 and I'm 78 points away, so the home stretch for me and it's the closest I've been, but it won't be easy lol

[tough axle]

Im in plat and I'll be lucky if Im not in gold by the end of the season with the luck im having 💀

If I even make it to diamond I'll be amazed

[deft scroll]

Does anyone here think samurai jack is bottom 5 cuz T1Carry thinks he is

[leaden sedge]

bottom 5 no, but mid yes

[quick iron]

who're the bottom five rn

[leaden sedge]

not in order cuz i never thought of it too much but i d say

bj, garnet, lebron, jack probs , jake

but i think bg takes jack 's spot

so yeah, not bottom 5

[quick iron]

crazy how all of em are bruisers

[quick iron]

yeh agreed

[leaden sedge]

yeah but because most of the cast are bruisers

only bj is the assassin

[obsidian crane]

like every mage and assasin except bj is avarage or above avarage aswell

[kindred tree]

Samurai jack needs a nerf it’s hard to hit him and hard to ring him out

[tight garden]

what

[quick iron]

hes one of the lightest characters in the game, what character can you not ring him out with?

[tight garden]

I’m sorry that’s just kinda factually wrong. He’s pretty light and shouldn’t be harder to hit as everyone else

[quick iron]

jason has 0 to death on him btw

[kindred tree]

I mean it’s hard to get near him

[quick iron]

with which character

[kindred tree]

Beetle juice, shaggy, Jason, Tom and Jerry and even Wonder Woman I tried

[quick iron]

shaggy can ring him out at 90 , jason has a 0 to death on him, and wonder woman can kill him at low hp too, the only character here thats worst then him is beetle juice. and i'd suggets playing as only one or two characters

[kindred tree]

As soon as he gets far away from me here comes that sword

It’s gg

[hearty marsh]

why did i get pinged here

[edgy ledge]

idk

[opal lodge]

guys, im curious to see if its the game, or my internet, but have anybody attacks sometimes just not do anything completely? like sometimes when using the down special the sword can go through enemies entirely sometimes?

please go to #clips for the demonstration clip i sent that happened to me

(if you wish to continue with this)

[leaden sedge]

it s the game dw

[empty spruce]

Jack is not bottom 5 srry 😭😭

[quick iron]

vro didnt read the next text

[empty spruce]

Are we just complaning abt Jason now

[quick iron]

i tested it with someone you can di out of it, but hes definitely not bottom 10

mid tier

[empty spruce]

I know, he is just match up heavy

But i still feel like Jack needs a small nerf on jab

Its too good

[quick iron]

no he needs a buff on his normal kit and a nerf on his side b instead

theres no move that can kill confirm in his kit except side b

[empty spruce]

No he doesnt, maybe only knockback increase or smth

[quick iron]

yeh bruhv what do you think im talkin about then

[empty spruce]

And jab is alway too fast, has really good range, almost no whiff lag

Still think it needs a nerf

[quick iron]

12 dmg no knock back, did you know you can get nearly double the dmg with a taz nair?

[empty spruce]

Ok, and?

[quick iron]

and his nair is chainnable unlike jack's jab lol

[empty spruce]

Ok Taz is a Lil broken, but doesnt change the fact Jacks jab needs a small nerf

[quick iron]

are you complaining about 12 dmg or is it only because the move annoys you

[empty spruce]

Didnt i just mention why

Its too fast

Away too much range

Almost no whiff lag

[quick iron]

so it only annoys you

[empty spruce]

Uh

How does that work

Taz is not broken he just annoys u

Joker is not broken he just annoya u

Shaggy is not broken he just annoys u

Give me a decent argument

[quick iron]

if a move doesnt have any kill power and deals as much damage as a normal move would do with other characters it means its not hurting you in anyway, its just annoying

[quick iron]

hes borken tho

[empty spruce]

He could get some knockback buffs but still

His jab needs a nerf

[quick iron]

dude why you comparing him with s tier characters

[empty spruce]

Just so u can see ur argument doesnt work

[quick iron]

dude jack is not broken, but youre using my statement for broken characters

[empty spruce]

His jab still broken

[quick iron]

if they nerf jab without any buffs im gonna uninstall this game fr

[quick iron]

@leaden sedge

[empty spruce]

?

[quick iron]

he'll explain to you what im trying to say

[empty spruce]

His jab is in fact broken, ok the character isnt he doesnt have a lot of kill power, but that doesnt change the fact the jab is broken

Idc if they buff his kill power

But i feel like his jab needs a nerf

[quick iron]

these alone wont make a jab broken

it still needs to be chainable, damaging, and have high knock back to be completely broken

[empty spruce]

Bruh

Ur playing stupid or smth

[empty spruce]

Doesnt change the fact his jab is top 3 or smth

[quick iron]

bruhv

[empty spruce]

Its true

Stop acting like he is bottom 5 or smth

Cuz he isnt

At all

[leaden sedge]

i just came out

so i ll just say what the first sentences i read

his jab is busted yes, but it s the only good thing he has, not even side b deserves nerfs because it misses a lot now and focused isn't as op as it was before

nerf the jab but make the rest of his stuff better and actually kill without getting 3 reads in a row

[leaden sedge]

he aint bottom 5 but he s for sure mid

even though his jab only connects into his normal combo string, doesn't change the fact that if he gets buffed he will be broken if jab remains untouched

[quick iron]

climbed from 80 to 30 in two hours

apparently most jacks are stuck in master 5

like zero rp in master 5 is around 130th jack

and 80 rp is around 30th

oh and i faced verlified's jason an hour ago while ranking up

nearly a three stock

[quick iron]

@raven cliff ggs

[raven cliff]

gg

[sleek laurel]

Ah samurai jack one match against him and I Uninstalled. Good times

[visual bolt]

GRAHHH SO CLOSE but I'm so terrified

67 points away from Masters and a week left

How are you guy's Ranked endeavors going?

[edgy ledge]

horrible still

but I'm powering through it

[visual bolt]

Oh my

Same here

[leaden sedge]

it is like that

[carmine quartz]

I managed ranked Master 3 and instantly lost it and back to 5 after nerf.
I was trying for Grand Master but I’ve been taking a break from the game.
Waiting for season 3. I already got Jacks skins that’s what I wanted most.

[leaden sedge]

i also wanted grand but rn it s impossible

from all my wins i get +3

and i need 1.300 rp

[carmine quartz]

Yup. I stopped trying because of that. It’s a literal waste of time and I save myself from getting upset.

[leaden sedge]

indeed

[quick iron]

master 3 before patch is insane

maybe thats why there so many jacks in master 5

[leaden sedge]

i hit master I before patch

just for the fun of it

btw am making a new jack server/general mvs server would u guys want to join it?

[visual bolt]

Heck yeah I'm for!!

[quick iron]

absolutely

[edgy ledge]

I'm with it

[quick iron]

https://youtu.be/-bL_a1W-x48?si=nMieVhtj41xW9j9u vro got hit by the edgeguard of death 3:32 (im famous now guys ) 😛

[leaden sedge]

i ll make it then, thank u all for the supportt

@quick iron@edgy ledge@visual boltu guys mind getting the invite rn while i work on it or want it when it s done?

[edgy ledge]

I don't mind

[quick iron]

anytime you like

[leaden sedge]

i ll work on it rn

i ll send the inv tmrw

[edgy ledge]

aight

[visual bolt]

Poifect!!

[visual bolt]

Also that was insane congrats on you for pressuring that toxic son of a gun into conceding lol

[quick iron]

thnx

[leaden sedge]

indeed

nice job

also verifilied that couldn't counter u in anyway when he could just up b is so funnyyy lmao

[quick iron]

Well thats why I wasnt too close to the ledge most of the times

But he was geting too greedy with that cheese method lol

[carmine quartz]

I also kinda think a ton of players (including myself) I first thought you needed to play Jack to unlock the ranked skins. That’s why so many rushed in

[deft scroll]

This character is still super broken lol nvm

[tough axle]

No he not

[quick iron]

Nuh uh

[deft scroll]

Yuh huh

[leaden sedge]

Buff

[hard prism]

Buff jack

[feral wagon]

Why?

He still seems very strong overall

[leaden sedge]

he s bottom 5 in 1s

almost

Buff

[deft scroll]

No he's not

[kindred tree]

Jack is already op he needs another nerf tbh

[leaden sedge]

Buff

[tough axle]

Bro you not him you will never be agent whiff🙏😭

[leaden sedge]

bro trust it will work

i will be samurai whiff

[empty spruce]

This character is so annoying

[empty spruce]

No he isnt

He is not top 5

But he isnt bottom 5 lol

[leaden sedge]

my honest opinion..

Buff

[carmine quartz]

If they nerf Jack again the balance team is wack.
Joker, WW, BA, Ayra, TnJ others have gone on with way worse

[opal lodge]

oh

Ong

[shadow grotto]

Ngl there is barley any combos to do with jack

[edgy ledge]

yup his combo is jab 1, jab 2, and jab 3

[leaden sedge]

Buff

[quick iron]

Buff

[visual bolt]

What they said!!

[obsidian crane]

hes the definition of mid he doesnt need buffs

[obsidian crane]

i said what i said dont sideeye dog hamster sticker me

[obsidian crane]

😭

[humble oyster]

Buff jack?

[edgy ledge]

buff jack.

[tough axle]

He might need small buffs

[edgy ledge]

I just want his nerfs reverted (the hitbox fixes, side special changes, and focus changes can stay tho)

save Samurai Jack.

[leaden sedge]

do u main him general question?

also Buff Jack

[quick iron]

buff jack

[quick iron]

yes

[misty spear]

Asking for buffs on a character who has high priority over most peoples attacks is crazy

[tough axle]

Asking for buffs on a character that has no combos

He doesnt even have high priority I dont get this

Its not that bad at all

[misty spear]

Try hitting him at all

Also you don’t need combos when your basic attack string does so much dmg already

And u have a lot of range

[leaden sedge]

i have no problems with hitting a jack

idk what u re on

[misty spear]

Your biased u play him

[leaden sedge]

yeah i play him and?

doesnt take a lot to understand his 2 good moves

as from the enemy perspective

[misty spear]

So since u play him you naturally don’t see what everyone else has to deal with

And the majority of games are filled with him and it makes the game not enjoyable to play

Because it’s the same bs every match and he’s very annoying

[leaden sedge]

i see it because i play others chars and encounter him

[leaden sedge]

majority no, we are not on launch anymore

and not even a lot of them spam jab

i can see him being annoying

but not broken

[misty spear]

Thats a lie I promise you if you play a session of the game most of your matches will have a jack in it

[leaden sedge]

playing rn and doesnt seem like it

his playercount dropped a lot

[humble oyster]

No, but i want to pick him up

[leaden sedge]

if u need tips or a community i have a server!

[humble oyster]

Do you believe jack needs help?

[leaden sedge]

yes

[visual bolt]

Beg pardon, I come across Jack on occasion but he's kinda in the middle. I see him more than characters like Velma or Banana Guard, but most of the cast, especially the usual suspects like Morty and Bugs Bunny, I see WAAAAY more often.

[quick iron]

12 DAMAGE

[quick iron]

i usually get to fight a jack 1/20 matches

[leaden sedge]

15*

you mean

yes, if u mean the dtilt one just di towards jack

which one?

[carmine quartz]

Is that supposed to be impressive? It’s also not even true

Not true combo

[tough axle]

30 dmg combo thats not true isn't crazy at all lmao

[leaden sedge]

yep

he deleted his messages lmaoo

[visual bolt]

Lol

[leaden sedge]

use words

then maybe i can

and understand your imagination with this jack combo

dont feel ashamed of being wrong tho dont delete your messages

k lil bro with the insults lmao

say it?

is it such a labour for you?

continue with it i dont mind

do you have ability to say of what components is this combo made, my egregious?

ok u re ragebaiting nvm

[unreal oasis]

has anyone else had your neutral attack randomly cancel while youre holding the button down

[leaden sedge]

nop

[distant tinsel]

🫡

[empty spruce]

Autistic Chinese Morty

[edgy ledge]

🗣️ BUFF JACK!!!

[leaden sedge]

BUFF JAAACK

[carmine quartz]

BUFF JACK. Give him sauce lol

When and where is the enter the verse?

YT or here?

[leaden sedge]

twitch

[carmine quartz]

Thanks!

[leaden sedge]

@carmine quartzit could also be on youtube

[humble oyster]

new changes help jack at all?

[gaunt tapir]

jack gets nothing

WW gets a buff

[humble oyster]

does the new jump mechanics help him at all?

[gaunt tapir]

maybe

something we’ll just have to see

[drowsy idol]

I’m confident the jump mechanics will buff jack. I’m hella excited for it.

His air down special slice apparently will cause a ground bounce now too, so def can combo after that

[craggy sail]

Howdy hehe

[visual bolt]

The patch notes seem to imply that his aerials could lead into combos better but

Whether or not that's actually true we will have to wait and see

[stable cobalt]

Jab master 🗣💥💥💥💥

[edgy ledge]

Jaburai Jack

I can't believe this

[quick iron]

They couldve atleast gave better hitboxes to our new combo starters ☹️

[visual bolt]

This is honestly not looking too good

[unreal oasis]

up special still has its huge hitbox so the vertical kills should still be fun

[edgy ledge]

gotta get back, back to the Jab

[quick iron]

Jaburai jack☹️

Hey atleast we get a cool ranked skin☹️

[digital crow]

I don't even have it since I was hard stuck at silver

[quick iron]

You couldve got to Master in a day with shaggy

[digital crow]

Probably not

[edgy ledge]

I'm gonna be rocking my dope diamond skin or maybe gold ngl

[tough axle]

I only got gold and plat but Im happy with that since I think gold looks the coolest

[quick iron]

Master tho?

[visual bolt]

Okay this is true, more than anything I love Vertical Jack kills with his Up Special

I feel like half of my Ranked kills with Jack are big-sandal-ing them up the top blast zone

[unreal oasis]

its actually somewhat disgusting i thought it would have been touched

[visual bolt]

Wish I had a video of my final ranked match but it ended in my opponents conceding in the middle of a Bo3
Said match ended in me giving a sweaty Tom & Jerry a boot to the head

Love the Up Special so much I'm shocked it hasn't changed and I'm glad it's staying as is

[leaden sedge]

i mean

it is kinda nut but at the same time it should stay unchanged

the real thing am surprised is Jab

[humble oyster]

So how are buffs?

[leaden sedge]

very nice

[carmine quartz]

I mean nearly every move he has, has been changed so far.
I’m most interested in knew combo routes

New lol

[leaden sedge]

check out the server

[carmine quartz]

Which one? I’m in 3

[leaden sedge]

mine, it s the most active surely rn

[deft scroll]

New jack emote

Kinda lame though

[carmine quartz]

Only for those who didn’t watch the show

[deft scroll]

I have I just wish he kept the blindfold on the entire time

[carmine quartz]

Well that’s lame (that they didn’t include that part) the emote itself is pretty cool, nice reference

[wraith imp]

ngl

jack feels broken now

[gaunt tapir]

the master skin got me dripping

flexing on the 7 year olds

[unreal oasis]

diamond skin is lowkey better

[visual bolt]

The colors of the Diamond skin are nicer, yes

But the outfit doesn't do the Chowder thing that the Masters skin does

Therefore Masters skin is better still I think

[leaden sedge]

it s up to preference

to be fair

[fresh night]

You guys have diamond and master rank Jack skin????

I only have gold lol

Looks alright but I wish the shade of yellow used was brighter. Looks kinda dull and it’s hard to see his face with it all gold

The white robe with the gold accents is clean tho

[carmine quartz]

He feels slow to me. But the whole game feels that way to me anyway.
I’ve been having more fun with PowerPuff Girls

[hybrid dock]

This game has always feel kinda clunky tbh

If they could increase the game speed just a little it would be perfect imo

[wraith imp]

idk he feels pretty fast to me

up tilt is probably his best move now

[leaden sedge]

same

[obsidian crane]

maybe would use a ranked jack skin if the battlepass jack skin wasnt so peak

[quick iron]

Against heavy chars

[short girder]

is it me or does jack feel um not good anymore in ranked?

[quick iron]

Against heavy characters he got a lil buff

Against light chars tho, nope, hes trash

[quick iron]

Tho ive seen some people even di out of the New combos

Only thing he needs rn is dragging the enemy into your self while youre doing a jab, that way his uptilt will hit no matter the character weight and we will actually have true combos

[short girder]

ye that exactly what i notice

[fresh night]

Is this guy better for 1s or 2s? Not sure

[quick iron]

2s

[carmine quartz]

Bruh, actually he DOES

[carmine quartz]

I like all these little changes to to help game flow better but I agree. I really hope we get a flat out speed increase.

[deft scroll]

Yeah I thought he didn't cuz it didn't appear in the preview I might actually buy it now

[fast falcon]

lay it on me, how bad are the post patch for Jack in S3?

[quick iron]

Jake or Jack?

[fast falcon]

Jack my bad lol

[quick iron]

Theyre actually nice but not enough

[humble oyster]

Why do u consider it not enough?

[quick iron]

You can di out of the New combos/ the hitboxes are janky so the New combos wont work on light chars

[digital crow]

I thought he did

[quick iron]

he does untill you get rung out

[marsh idol]

jack is still op

[crude pewter]

what is jack's most reliable finisher right now?

[wraith imp]

iad grab

but it works only at 110

and higher

[gaunt tapir]

depends on character

% can change quite a bit

[sterile shale]

anyone know the best samurai jack perks

[leaden sedge]

5% snowball, last stand and pugilist

[sterile shale]

alr

[drowsy idol]

Yup, exactly what I use too. Although I wanna eventually try the grey health perk.

[feral wagon]

This character is absolutely not mid tier and I feel like they could nerf him more cause wtf does he need a air down special hitbox this large for 🤦‍♂️

[quick iron]

hes A against heavy chars, mid against light

[feral wagon]

How is he worse against light characters?

[quick iron]

chainable attacks not connecting

[feral wagon]

Oh

At least he has nair

[quick iron]

try using nair against a harley

[feral wagon]

Fair point lol

[gaunt tapir]

down tilt drops against them out of jab

which is a major combo tool for him rn

Also Jack balancing is so bad

hes so mid in 1v1s

but so good in 2v2

his kit leads to him being very lob sided

[lean zinc]

You think Jack should get a Professor Utonium outfit?

[feral wagon]

Would be peak

[tranquil pasture]

why is this a character

[dry heart]

👶

[potent crater]

why are you complaining?

[distant tinsel]

I love how you guys call it the chowder thing.
That was also the first thing I thought of.

[jaunty swan]

Hate you guys character

To be fair i hate most of the characters and this game and for some reason keep thinking they’ll change

[frank pasture]

hes a one trick pony

like half the roster

[frank pasture]

most factual shii ive ever read

so easy to fix this game but pfg dont know what they are doing besides character design and everything in terms of look and feel

[jaunty swan]

Yeah I think its time for a nice long break, maybe they’ll figure it out in that time

Wake me up when marceline comes 😴

[rain plaza]

I love this character so much

[tepid cipher]

Same, Samurai Jack was one of my most wanted for Multiversus and I’m glad he’s here

[leaden sedge]

i mean, do i need to say something?

[uncut gulch]

This character is fine

[quick iron]

Absolutely

[tranquil pasture]

its practically Ike with clouds limit

[uncut gulch]

Both characters are mid tho

[crude pewter]

it's actually his most reliable finisher... It shouldn't be nerfed

[crude pewter]

Range is not that great for a dash attack, honestly

I find his jab way more problematic than his dash attack

and the range is almost the same

did you make any mistake that you shouldn't?

c'mon, man... it's more than ok to die at 105

you shouldn't be there

it's like saying Jake is broken because he killed me at low damage when I was above him

be aware of your positioning

yes, I'm reading

that's positioning

[leaden sedge]

bro deleted his msgs cuz they were all trash takes lol

[uncut gulch]

He consistently deletes his messages after sending them out

Happened over in Smith, PPG and Taz area

[leaden sedge]

yeah he always does that to not held accountable or idk, he s just weird

[uncut gulch]

I have him blocked personally

[leaden sedge]

yeah best thing

[uncut gulch]

When his only goal was to provoke Smith mains in Smith area, then its time to put up the block

[leaden sedge]

he provokes everyone

[uncut gulch]

Except Stripe area

Only probably the characters he lost to that day

[leaden sedge]

discord personalized version since no one ever had this thing but yeah

[unreal oasis]

you said you do it on purpose, you are probably just paranoid or 13

yes

dont care

i know nobody else would do something so absurd. the reason why you do it only you know

discord logs your messages even though servers generally dont so i dont know why you would bother downloading something to scrub your messages, or worse do it manually

just a weird and ineffective way to troll overall

why would you be enraged by a true observation

why would anyone else be enraged by deleted messages even if you wanted to troll

it's lame always

so you delete messages because you dont like that people play the characters in the game

none of what you are saying is important im just curious why you would do something which has seemingly no cause and no effect

you dont have to have an answer you know you are allowed to just waste your own time for no reason

i just personally dont know why you would

so you are 13

its something well adjusted people grow out of

no

if i was 13 too i would tell you

[leaden sedge]

what happened, isnt this supposed to be a jack channel

[unreal oasis]

i alt f4 because of Batman 😿

[leaden sedge]

heard that a lot

agree tho

he s annoying

ppl didnt even downplay a lot

[unreal oasis]

the new kick knock back is crazy i feel like even as jack/heavier characters

[leaden sedge]

it is

[ashen wagon]

this is the only character i fight against no one plays anything else brah

[twin roost]

should've made Jack's up b JUMP GOOD

[leaden sedge]

better passive than meditate: jack jumps 15% higher

[twin roost]

signature perk where jack can jump higher

[quick iron]

yes please, current perks suck

[visual bolt]

Honestly this would have been awesome.

[viral smelt]

I beg to differ. Shadow step perk was useful.

[quick iron]

actually, neutral special deals more damage without shadow step