#Agent Smith

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wicked imp
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Just like Shaggy just needed an overall kill power nerf instead of removing his combos. They could’ve just added a late hit to air up special so it didn’t kill off the top, nerfed sair so it doesn’t kill at 60 near ledge, nerfed rage specials so they don’t do an absurd 25 damage and instead do a more reasonable 15-20, and then have him more whiff on jab 1

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I wonder who’s gonna get nerfed into the ground next

calm loom
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skillfull smith from S2 is back

wicked imp
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Especially when he had a loop due to no auto teching

calm loom
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jab 1 in S3 stunned like 3 years

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he needed that nerf

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smith was braindead af

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and he wasnt in S2

wicked imp
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Dude jab 1 to utilt was still true in season 2

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Jab 1 -> utilt -> dair -> gunshot down -> repeat was a loop that went from like 0-90

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You’re gaslighting yourself

undone slate
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Same character that lost nspec edge slide

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and dtilt ground bounce

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and air gun cancel

wicked imp
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Repeat move lockout on uair

undone slate
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But im done malding about smith changes ill still play bro

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Only skins im missing on him are tooniverse and matrix

median grotto
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I'm on Betelgeuse for now

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and Lebron

undone slate
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Betelgeuse is so sleeper

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this season

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Ignite electrify

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break that character

median grotto
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I'll come back to Smith when he has anything that resembles expression

wicked imp
median grotto
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Lebroners ate good this hotfix

undone slate
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character specialists will prevail

median grotto
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idk about bruiser nerfing

undone slate
wicked imp
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Lebron will become dogwater when shields are added

median grotto
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it's more accurate

wicked imp
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And he loses all basketball pressure

median grotto
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he can actually hit to the side with dair now like before

undone slate
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smith was gonna be so good with shields too

median grotto
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people keep talking shields like they're a certainty

hidden whale
undone slate
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i subscribe to the idea that they wouldnt be pushing shields on us this hard if they werent certain it was gonna be added

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Bron is a mage down to the stance swap

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but if ur weight class is above shaggy ur a tank or bruiser

wicked imp
median grotto
median grotto
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he still has 0 kill power besides a lucky bomb

hidden whale
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mb smith mains

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the counter combo tricked me

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most of the time u should still be able to land uptilt

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just loops will be much harder and/or impossible to do

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so he s actually balanced now

unreal coral
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Says who? 🤣

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Smith is fine everyone.

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🤣

hidden whale
unreal coral
hidden whale
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since his jab now doesnt cover a lot anymore and is actually fair

unreal coral
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Keep in mind he also has all of his kill confirms still

hidden whale
shell tendon
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Why is my agent now just randomly throwing people into the ground?

stark anvil
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Agent Jones seems to be off the nut this patch acting strange

thin phoenix
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Its NOT that deep Smith is ok rn

civic juniper
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Everything is inconsistent because people were screeching like banshees about Smith being way too strong

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I seriously feel sorry for the devs dealing with people

thin phoenix
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U guys gotta chill 😂

civic juniper
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What was even the issue anyway, his jab doing a little bit more damage than he was supposed to do?

civic juniper
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If there was a native way to see the hitbox of that I would have liked to see it

grand fjord
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Now that smith finally got nerfed…. They need to fix Harley sair

civic juniper
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nah

dull roost
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Yeeeesh

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People were hurt mentally with smith

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However these nerfs are not going to do anything. The jab was fixed to stop jab --> dair loops.

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Side note, most people that show up here just to talk about smith nerfs got no chill on our boy the handsome smith.

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🫵😎

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No nerf is going to stop me from liking the character itself.

undone slate
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ngl after playing some games of smith

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i overreacted

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jab utilt just don’t connect in combos sometimes now

dull roost
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you can't just dodge foward and jab like you use to entirely

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like what most other fighters do

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I'm calling it now ricks jab is going to take over smiths, I have not really touched smith much this season

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but man people just whine till they get everything they want on their character

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hooooly

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I hate this community

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ive been playing raven watching how bad it is people depend on jab

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ricks feels worse then smith by a land slide

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it does not feel fun to play against

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you can't jump over it

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it hits underledge better then smiths ever did

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like what the hell lol

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people need to stop being babys when there is things far more annoying yeeeesh

dull roost
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Sorry for crashing out kings

hidden whale
past shoal
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his changes are sick

median grotto
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That

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Not as good

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But around there

past shoal
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thats unironically such a good apt comparison

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literally

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smiths wasnt as disjointed but anti aired like crazy and covered half the stage

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at least we werent getting hit by a fish lmfao

thin phoenix
wicked imp
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Go be toxic somewhere else

tidal warren
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Peeps: Smith got nerfed

Me: Eh, He's still pretty strong. So, go Smith mains.

grand fjord
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He’s still strong

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A lot more fair now without his long strings

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They should probably just add some whiff lag to neutral special and then he’d be in a balanced spot

median grotto
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I'd genuinely rework his gun moves ngl

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mainly just to make it a bit more fun and easier to balance in the future

grand fjord
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Unsure how’d they go about that

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Maybe he can have 0 bullets but they have a shorter cooldown?

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So it recharges faster

median grotto
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I'd make it so Hand_Cannon is base kit.
Single-shots, sweet spots at the tip, his bullets can now go to 0 and have the gun not fire in that case (He'd still do side/down special jumps and movements, but he'd just make a click noise)

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It's a lot more satisfying and skill-based to land shots that way since you only get 1 bullet to fire at a time rather than a volley of 3

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devs can tweak the power around single shots easier imo

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and it'd also completely stop gun spam ledge guarding

grand fjord
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Interesting

median grotto
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if he times it, he gets it. If not, then he wastes a precious bullet

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I'd then rework hand_cannon to reduce your max bullet count to 1 in exchange for a stronger shot

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MAYBE increase the range of gun shots too

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but I'm not 100% on if that'd be balanced

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other than that, I think Smith's kit is cool af

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and I like how they nerfed the cancel window on Cooldown neutral attack, makes the off-cooldown version more valuable outside of the silence debuff

wicked imp
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Off cooldown nair/neutral attack I’m pretty sure has more knockback too

hidden whale
wicked imp
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Oh I’m aware

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He complains in every channel

cloud night
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So Smith was killed, at least with comboing lol

thin phoenix
cloud night
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God, before was bad but now... ugh... poor handsome smith

slate ocean
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ok i dont mean to be all elitist but for every past major patch (excluding season 4 patch) us Rick mains had to pretty much learn a whole new character, you guys will survive

unreal coral
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I’m confused, smith is still top 3 minimum why are you guys going crazy? 😅

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(I personally think top 1 but I’m a realist at the same time)

stark anvil
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The only difference I noticed with Smith is not being able to combo into up tilt out of a second jab

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Otherwise he still feels like Smith to me, which is pretty athletic and pretty good.

cloud night
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...?

shell tendon
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Idk how many months its been but I am still begging pfg to make the clone unable to be picked up by your partner if it's already grabbed someone. Please...

jovial birch
stark anvil
jovial birch
unreal coral
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Smith was never able to combo uptilt after jab 2, only on bad DI, it was never ever true @stark anvil

unreal coral
stark anvil
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Huh, that sucks

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I guess he feels no different to me then, he barely did.

grave vigil
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What kill confirms does he have

slate ocean
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jab up tilt up air

undone slate
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seeing Smith jab being regarded as still super good just goes to show how many people have played/played against smith this patch

stark anvil
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I'm mildly disappointed that Smith's best skin is still his Matrix Code skin from Season 1, the one you had to beat 30 rift bosses for
I'm glad I did it and I actually had a fun time doing so but like
It makes me wish Smith's other skins were that good

civic juniper
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Begging them to make an ugly Christmas sweater for Smith

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But it's just 1s and 0s on it

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White rabbit pattern

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Spoons

stark anvil
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I know it would take a bit of effort but a Legendary skin based on his possessed Bane alias in The Matrix Resurrections would go kinda hard methinks

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Normally I wouldn't say something like "It'll probably take a bit of effort" given the immense work they usually do on skins but
They seem to do that for most characters with few exceptions and Smith is one of them LOL

cloud night
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Maybe before that they will put the 4th movie version. Maybe when the 5th movie is released

civic juniper
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"This variant (Matrix Code) was originally supposed to be part of the Agent Smith's Source Code Bundle, but was swapped out for Cyber-Smith Agent Smith."

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Man am I glad we got Matrix Code for the 30th tier reward

stark anvil
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I actually agree it's currently his best skin

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Though I do quite like his Tooniverse and Circuit Drone skins they're not bad

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The rest however very much are :(

undone slate
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jealous

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grinded solo 22/30 rifts s1

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time machine just to go back for matrix smith

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i’m missing that and tooniverse

civic juniper
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Finally coped and got Agent Smith's Source Code, cause it was on sale

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Thankfully I didn't have to spend any real life money

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Whatever the pack is that comes with the Spoons taunt, because I wanted that for a while

stark anvil
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I love the Spoon taunt so much, I picked it up because it was on a 60% sale and got it alongside Cyber Smith for only 700 Gleamium

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Seeing him dance all the bent spoons around his body while saying something cocky like "Seems like someone needs to touch grass." is insanely comedic to me even if it is a tad out of character, I love it so much.

civic juniper
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Yeah I got it for that price too

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I have enough to get the second battle pass so it's no big deal to me

undone slate
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gutting smith waiting room

stark anvil
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The developers responded to a meme in regards to Smith's gun viability

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It seems the mid season patch is going to make his Gun-Fu less powerful in some fasion

cloud night
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great, that adds to the idea of failing combos and DI becomming useless against Batman and Harley

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nah, im done with this. I liked the diamond skin but its impossible, i only go down. It feels like i haven't reached Master before and i practiced some combos. None connects properly. Feels pretty random everything.

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the most frustrating game i played so far... gg

stark anvil
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Won't let me Embed of course but

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More Smith nerfs to come in the future (sad)

civic juniper
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The devs need to stop nerfing literally anything that people cry about

hidden whale
dull roost
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The handsome smith.

cyan vessel
cyan vessel
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I hope its just something that makes it so you cant just spam it over and over to ledge guard...but all specials that involve the gun (including his dash) share the same ammo clip thing he has..

hidden whale
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i think they should just nerf the framedata on grounded to prevent insane ledgeguard

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all his other moves aside jab that requires minor tweaks he s back to normal

cyan vessel
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if its whiff lag..that might end him too depending on the length, they sudo nerfed his jab because they changed the stun data

hidden whale
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and the hitbox

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which was a nice change so his jab doesnt cover 2/3 of your tech options

cyan vessel
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idk, doing this may just make him garbage.

I know the gun spam (like every other spam) is bad and really I want all the spam to be nerfed, but I want the attack decay to come back for that, and add less knockback (and stun in cases) on top of less damage for the decay. They arent going to do that nor bring back attack decay from beta

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but they should

hidden whale
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agree

thin phoenix
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Some people here downplay too much

full harbor
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we want chinese autistic morty back

thin phoenix
undone slate
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if they touch gun ledge spam with move lock out, that’s completely fine - if they do some weird bullet/ammo rework i’m out w this character

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not that anybody asked just my thoufhts

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raven is solid and doesn’t seem like she’ll be viscerally patched every .5 seasons

slate ocean
slate ocean
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gun is the only thing he has rn

civic juniper
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Gun revolves around his entire moveset

civic juniper
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Looks like Smith finally got a non suit

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He's getting winter clothes

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In the season 4.5 trailer

stark anvil
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FINALLY.

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A good Smith skin.

undone slate
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reminds me of captain cold

civic juniper
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Still hoping he gets an ugly Christmas sweater with ones and zeroes but that's still pretty cool

dull roost
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How yall handsome smiths doing

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I'll be coming back to the game soon

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Been busy with my finals

civic juniper
dull roost
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Rip

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Maybe Marcellene will bring some players back

dull roost
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The smith changes are not too bad

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I think we are aiight

civic juniper
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And uh

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All of the few friends I had playing this game no longer want to play it because of how microtransaction-heavy everything is

dull roost
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I guess, it does not seem that bad

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they might be overeacting

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other games feel much worse

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considering how much free stuff we get

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feels bad people think that way about this game. oh well what can you do.

hidden whale
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oog is gaining huge Ws on tourney

dull roost
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Noice

wanton rain
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I’m trying to learn agent smith what are some of his best combos?

hidden whale
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or for early and more safe, down special or jab ( unsure if jab connects )

dull roost
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He has alot of combos still, just gotta mess around with training

dull roost
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I never really used it like that ether

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I followed up into other stuff

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I like where smith is though

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He's in a better spot

undone slate
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nah this character some doo doo

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play other characters to do his job better

hidden whale
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nah smith still epic

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and good

civic juniper
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Did they nerf him again for the Marceline update

wicked imp
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No one was nerfed this patch. Only a bug fix so you can actually see Steven’s shield now

unreal coral
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Smith is still an incredible character indeed.

dull roost
dull roost
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I wana start playing him again later

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Been playing raven lately

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Just been playing smith in training alot

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To practice combos

undone slate
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shields got added

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and smitj feels ass to play with shields

dull roost
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thats fair, I feels alright to me, I can see him being harder to play. but people still whining about him saying he's broken I'm like thats crazy I knew they would nerf him and people would still lose to him and whine.

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I said it and I was like there it is loool.

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I think he is not as strong as he used to be by a landslide, and people will just continue to be foul. someguy was like, B-b-but Bhands said he was broken a month agooooo.

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I'm like this guy wild.

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🤨

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the fact he was serious is why I'm lost.

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it was proberly longer then a month more like a month and a half ago that video was made.

undone slate
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they hit smith with 3 balance nerfs before even considering what he would play like with shields

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nerfing things in reverse too lol

dull roost
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yeesh

undone slate
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Nspec move lockout should’ve been one of the first things they did

dull roost
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thats what I said a long time ago too

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I agree with that

undone slate
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but no they did that after removing down attack ground bounce

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making his jab hit box one of the worst

dull roost
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But I just don't want them to nerf him anymore

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yeah

undone slate
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making uptilt whiff half of the time

dull roost
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its funny considering how bad other jabs are

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but whatever

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atleast it does not loop anymore compared to how it used it

undone slate
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character was mid on launch, was strong and half the metagame didn’t notice, when he was finally noticed as a strong pick got nerfed within a season

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his strongest was s3 launch with the down attack and tech chases

dull roost
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people still giving me a hard time for playing smith

undone slate
dull roost
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lmao

undone slate
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if there wasn’t a smith psyop in the past few months this character would be viewed ass

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but some hardcore mind washing made smith look like one of the most broken platform fighting game characters ever

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genuinely the only thing this character has left is uptilt upair and uptilt nair

dull roost
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yeah, I mean he still has jab uptilt dair nair/ jab uptilt Nspecial nair

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he has something. its not amazing

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but its something

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the problem was like you said, players find something fun. But the fun police shows up (complainers) and get it taken away

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their arguement whether they like it or not is, its not my character being strong so I'm mad.

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always has been.

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never changes rip.

undone slate
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yea i’m not gonna sit here n say smith wasn’t a strong character when he was up but he wasn’t doing egregious 0tds or the like

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if you were getting killed early by smith other than uptilt nair you were simply just bad

dull roost
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I knew he was strong too, but yea he was not off the charts

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it was just people making him look good

undone slate
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Oog and Fallzei were the only ones placing with smith

dull roost
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thats always been the problem

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people never stop coping

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and after they nerfed smith people still lose and complain

undone slate
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Smith did not take up really any space in top 8s

dull roost
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people are just dog!@#$ 😄

undone slate
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Smith will forever be viewed in this light too

dull roost
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yeah I've always said people here are just really foul.

undone slate
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Actual humble character ruined by complaining

dull roost
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its unfortunate but atleast I can still enjoy him I guess

undone slate
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Keep on smithin 🕶️

dull roost
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😎

undone slate
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I’ve been playing raven a lot more

dull roost
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same

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her nair into upspecial is addicting to land

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grounded up special

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and follow ups into aerial up special are really fun

undone slate
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it’s funny that ppg bj raven and marceline up special send them up fast in a swift and powerful motion

dull roost
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lmao

undone slate
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just an observation

dull roost
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its fine

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atleast raven is not jab the character

undone slate
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yea but she do be getting rewarded off jab unlike marceline

dull roost
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people still complain when I say jab is not that good

undone slate
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jab dtilt upair satisfying af

dull roost
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i'm fine with it not being crazy

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yeah

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she has great comfirms on jab

undone slate
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raven dodge jab isn’t as offensive as others but i still think it’s pretty good

dull roost
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I like the way her jab is

undone slate
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the projectile property is rlly good

dull roost
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did you know a perfect spaced jab combos into dair

undone slate
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nah i rarely use dair on raven its a wack hitbox

dull roost
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and you can combo it into bird if you follow up immediatly

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its wack but feels satisfying to land

undone slate
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i’ve been using the dspec sig on her recently

dull roost
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thats right she has a perk brought back

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leme go look

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ive been using the rage sig perk

undone slate
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you can reverse input it for them to fall in towards you for a dodge jab

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weird explanation but i’m sure u can figure it out in lab

wicked imp
undone slate
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we’re ladder brothers 👑

wicked imp
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Oh that’s funny

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Yeah so I stopped playing ranked after I reached diamond 5 and then went on a 7 set game losing streak against nothing but Arya, Harley, and Steven

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Shaggy jab does not work on any thin character like Harley, Arya, Rick, Morty, Raven, etc

dull roost
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the dair special gives us a projectile noice

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wait @undone slate

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if you reverse d sepcial

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special

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it pulls them to you?

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i figured it out on accident

undone slate
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yea like raven starts dspec facing other direction

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aim it backwards and they’ll get pulled in

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and you can dodge jab

dull roost
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thats so cool

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I was about to be like this move is alright

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its not so bad now though

undone slate
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yea there’s merit to using it over 85 perk

dull roost
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its cool down is not horrible

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but its like a mini smith dspecial grab

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that does not shield break

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I guess you have to dodge jump when reversing upspecial on the ground to follow up certain attacks now

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thats fine

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anyways @undone slate thank you very much for helping me find this, i was already enjoying playing raven but now its going to be more fun.

civic juniper
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I just started playing the game again

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They just added shields like a week ago so I'm not too familiar with shields as of right now

unreal coral
undone slate
unreal coral
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I would.

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It allows him to win the matchups he loses.

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He can shield all of stevens kit

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He can shield and punish WW nair

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It allows an actual defensive option against Harley sair

undone slate
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fair i was more thinking what shields did for smith offensively

unreal coral
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Ahhhhh

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In terms of purely offensively

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Yeah I can see Smith not getting the biggest buffs in terms of offense with shields in play

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But Smith's biggest issues are his natural defense against aerial characters.

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Shields fix this.

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So (at least in my opinion of course (: ) in term, Smith gets better

undone slate
unreal coral
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Yeah 🤣

stark anvil
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I'm still having a good time with Smith
He's lost a string or two but he's still super agile and floaty and very combo heavy

dull roost
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Nobody blocks in this game

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And nobody uses guard breaks

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So using shields are free right now

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Until people finally use them

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But then guard breaks will be free

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🗿

dull roost
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But I can understand being mad about the stupid nerfs

wicked imp
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Does Smith have a good out of shield game?

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I can’t imagine up special out of shield is very good lol

grand fjord
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Jab and utilt are what I use oos

cyan vessel
undone slate
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ngl been downplaying smith lately

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upplay arc

dull roost
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That smith skin is so cold it's fire

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Also smith combos are still pretty fun

undone slate
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jab utilt still whiffing point blank

dusk steppe
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Yo CRIMX88 u in here?

unreal coral
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Happy holidays / New year Smith’s 🕶️🫡

flint grail
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Did smith get gutted since last time I played?

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like he feels so slow now

wicked imp
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The jab hitstun nerf means you can’t loop jab -> utilt -> dair at all anymore and jab -> utilt in general has a more strict timing, but other than that, he’s basically the same

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Oh and gun at ledge is a decent bit slower

flint grail
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His fair feels like, super slow

dull roost
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Agent sniff is fine

undone slate
thin phoenix
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Its one of the best sairs in the game

civic juniper
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The winter coat for Smith is cool

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Matrix Code is still my favorite one cause it's so simple and effective

mint loom
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Goodbye smith bros

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It was some of the most fun I've ever had playing him

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And the most excited I'd been for a multiplayer game when he was announced

civic juniper
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Agent Smith wins in the end

unreal coral
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I love you fellow Smith's. I'm glad to be able to have assisted some of you during our glorious time here in the Multiverse. Till next time 🕶️ 🫡

wicked imp
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🫡

cinder moth
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🫡

cyan vessel
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🫡

undone slate
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See u bros

fathom elbow
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🫡

dull roost
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Yall will always be handsome smiths

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Even in the end

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🫡

undone slate
supple acorn
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It was always fun to play against agent smith. One of the most fun characters to fight against

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🫂

mint loom
slate ocean
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I'll never be able to play peak platform fighter character for the foreseeable future

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I LOVE AGENT SMITH

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SO MUCh

unreal coral
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He loves you too 🕶️🫡

stark anvil
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CHAT

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THE SEASON 5 TRAILER

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The stage Smith is seen wave dashing on is the dojo from the first two Matrix films

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The one Neo did his training in

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We actually finally got a Matrix stage thank god LOL

mint loom
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Yeah but the game is shutting down 😭😭😭😭

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This season looks like the best season by far

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And we'll only get to enioy it for so long

dull roost
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Yeah it looks great

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Is it out today?

stark anvil
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So yeah

stark anvil
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IT'S OUT

civic juniper
stark anvil
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Unfortunately not

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It looks like it but it's actually the new Training Room

dull roost
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smith is weird now but has some new fun combos

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gotta play him with out uppercut combos now

mint loom
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Up special and calling an agent is so much faster now holy

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Almost instant

civic juniper
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I've always thought those moves were kind of worthless so that's good to hear

undone slate
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so smiths

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what are we doing out of jab now

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bc uptilt leaves you stun locked after xd

grand fjord
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seems better to do gun cancels out of jab1 now

lilac zealot
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If u sweet spot the jab it can link to agent/clone

dull roost
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We got clone combos now

slate ocean
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Up B has been really fun to use

dull roost
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Pretty funny actually

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Jab 1 combos into clone

slate ocean
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I gotta try this

dull roost
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Gun cancel combos into clone pretty sure as well

dull roost
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You gotta get the bounce though

slate ocean
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The up tilt just feels so bad man everytime I use it I get visions of the old combos we used to pull off

dull roost
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Yeah, i miss the combos from it, I don't even use uptilt anymore

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It's gona take some getting used too.

slate ocean
flint grail
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holy gutted character

slate ocean
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I miss up tilt sair and up tilt dair I cri

undone slate
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this dude smith really gets frozen in time after uptilt

flint grail
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I'd argue smith is bottom one now

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Every other character has better tools than him

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And he has no combos anymore

wicked imp
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You’ll see what it truly means to be bottom 1

undone slate
wicked imp
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Smith still has jab 1 into gun cancel

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And I’ve heard jab 1 clone is also true

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He’s still got some sauce

stark anvil
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I didn't know you could do Jab into Agent Jones, I figured the move would have too much buildup for that

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Neat.

undone slate
unreal coral
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Smith is no where near bottom one everyone, don’t worry. He just has to work a little bit harder. He has combos. He has confirms. Trust. (: I believe in y’all 🕶️

cinder moth
shell tendon
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did they fix his down special in 2s or is the game dying with it being a buggy peice of garbage

digital pecan
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Yeah agent smith players are only getting carried by the gun now. It’s literally just jump air down special into neutral special into side special over and over again smh. If smith is that easy to be brain dead with then I. Guess I’ll give it a try too lol

cyan vessel
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bro...the changes they made in S5 for gameplay kinda buffed Smith lol...just decided to play him again for the hell of it...and hes smooth

civic juniper
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About to get the Valentine's day suit for Smith lol

unreal coral
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I’m gonna miss all of you fellow Smith’s. Keep thriving Agents 🕶️🫡🖤

undone slate
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Tried to stop myself from glazing but Not One Person would even argue that Smith was high tier if it weren’t for Oog’s placements and performance. Impeccable specimen peaked the character so hard

unreal coral
shut raft
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when did they make agent smiths uptilt trash

digital pecan
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Agent smith is nowhere near trash

digital pecan
digital pecan
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Air down special to be specific

mint loom
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Sighhhh

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Makes me sad to come back to this server

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Like a graveyard

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Agent smith goated

slate ocean
mint loom
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Yep

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Peak

slate ocean
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I'm definitely going for his lord

mint loom
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Prob my fav marvel villain

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Always been a dc guy but ultron is one of those marvel chars that I think is cool asf

feral onyx
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Are there any Variants for the character with unique voicelines?

stark anvil
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12:07PM EST earlier this afternoon, the servers shut down right as I got my final win with Smith. I'm satisfied.

slate ocean
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It was an honor Smith gang

stark anvil
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I already miss this lol

ionic hare
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broken character