maiden bridge
Agent Smith is the relentless enforcer in The Matrix, always trying to keep things under control—think of him as the world's most intense hall monitor. Initially a program designed to keep humans in line, he becomes obsessed with defeating Neo and getting some much-needed 'me time.' With his superhuman abilities and power to clone himself, Smith is a nearly unstoppable foe who just can’t seem to take a hint.
First
haha
nova plover
oh cool he has a channel now
knotty basin
3rd- lol
cosmic glacier
😎
rancid jasper
mmm yes, the fella
da smith
bleak spire
lets gooo
what signature perk do you guys run? I feel like 5% is the best but haven't experimented much yet with the 1 bullet only perk
rancid jasper
been having fun with Mr. Smith, altho was unable to end up in a four smith match
fierce pebble
Neat he’s got a channel now
rancid jasper
so far I've just used 5%, but mostly cus I ran out of perk currency from buying every perk for every character for no reason lol
fierce pebble
I unlocked him earlier today I’m about to go play him for the first time
faint zinc
what signature perk do you guys run? I feel like 5% is the best but haven't expe...
hand cannon
100%
its gonna get nerfed
its so good
jab 1 > utilt > down gun > dair > down gun > dair > jab 1 > utilt > dair > nair
kills at 0
civic juniper
John Matrix!
jagged crypt
Hello
sick beacon
Sup
Feels good to finally have a channel to the man, myth and legend himself
faint zinc
i mean ive been talking in the smith discord all day
maiden bridge
His moves are ‘chefs kiss’
jagged crypt
i mean ive been talking in the smith discord all day
There’s a smith discord?
faint zinc
theres a discord for most characters
jagged crypt
How do I get in that one
faint zinc
check the multiversus pro server, theres a channel with all character cords that exist
faint zinc
hand cannon is hella broken
i dont personally it, but the few times i have
its def worth using over freeze
young plank
Mmmm
jagged crypt
check the multiversus pro server, theres a channel with all character cords that...
Where is this server even I can’t find it online
faint zinc
freeze you dont get a lot of value with
upbeat spoke
But handcannon allows you to combo
jagged crypt
hand cannon is hella broken
I’m confused how it works I tried it out In practice and couldn’t get anything good out of it
young plank
Like how you could combo down special
upbeat spoke
And down special is kinda a noob check
young plank
I’m confused how it works I tried it out In practice and couldn’t get anything g...
Ye bro
upbeat spoke
Like how you could combo down special
You can combo off jab, up tilt, handcannon special, more ofteb and more consistently
faint zinc
hand canon is an entirely different gameplan than multishot
you use it to whiff punish and as a neutral option
young plank
Anyway command frezee its the best for 2s
faint zinc
I’m confused how it works I tried it out In practice and couldn’t get anything g...
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upbeat spoke
Shiiiioooot
jagged crypt
Ty
upbeat spoke
young plank
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009538859417215147/1260098625845854228/M...
No way thats true
You can di
Out of it
upbeat spoke
It's true at low percent
At mid to high you set up into high stake juggle scenarios
faint zinc
No way thats true
its true
young plank
Nice, its like tom and jerry combo but in steroids
faint zinc
ive been playing smith all day its true
young plank
You cant use dash attack anymore as an combo starter
If you use the handcanon one
And i found smth really broken
With agent smith
Its like an ground bounce combo
Agent smith could do an ground bounce combo
Well il play later
Il go sleep
Bye bye
bleak spire
hand canon is an entirely different gameplan than multishot
how is it different? i feel like one bullet of hand cannon is just the same with one bullet of normal multishot right?
they just differ if you have more ammo
faint zinc
how is it different? i feel like one bullet of hand cannon is just the same with...
single shot has a better combo game and can kill more consistently
bleak spire
hmm im still experimenting both but tbh i dont feel much difference between normal multishot and hand cannon
so rn im leaning towards 5%
hushed plank
ive been playing smith all day its true
I been playing agent smith and I can’t stop I can’t stop
faint zinc
^
realistically id only perfer 2 multishot moves over hand cannon
that being aerial down special and dash attack
but i dont use dash attack a ton so i wouldnt even notice
bleak spire
ok yeah i think hand cannons better
valid pendant
agent smith
calm loom
Yo
How people unlocked agent smith already
I think i did every difficulty and im at level 17
Idk whats left
fierce pebble
There’s exactly 20 bosses right now for you to be able to get him
The badge tracks it incorrectly so don’t go off of that
calm loom
There’s exactly 20 bosses right now for you to be able to get him
Where
I did
First rifts
The 3 difficulties
Second
3
Third
Three
?
Or 2
How many theres in Jason rift?
fierce pebble
All of them have 3 bosses except the new one which has 2
calm loom
All of them have 3 bosses except the new one which has 2
What do You mean all of them
Since forth rift
Theres only two difficulties
Easy and crushing
fierce pebble
Looney unlocks tomorrow I’m pretty sure
calm loom
Thats level 9
And people hace them already unlocked
Even without looney
I'm pretty sure theres like just 17 rifts
fierce pebble
Did you do the new one that came out today?
fierce pebble
Your Gems probably aren’t high enough level, you have to do insanity which is level 7 gems
calm loom
Your Gems probably aren’t high enough level, you have to do insanity which is le...
Then why does it says unavailable
It shouldnt supposed to Say that Even without the level 7
fierce pebble
You can only do Easy and Insanity on the new rift
You must’ve missed a boss somewhere, I’d run through them again to make sure
calm loom
You can only do Easy and Insanity on the new rift
Age of smith
Is digital
Right?
Then why does it says insanity is unavailable
If i have level 8 gems
fierce pebble
I dunno man I finished all 20 bosses I’ve got Smith
calm loom
Theres something weird on My rift
I cant play insanity
Being level 8
And im seeing people beating insanity difficulty
Wth
fierce pebble
Maybe you missed an older boss
calm loom
I have a question
The second rift
The velma one
Does have insanity?
Because if it has i cant either play in that rift being level 8
My game is broken
Im pretty sure i did all the other bosses in all difficulties
I'm counting every difficulty tomorrow
Yeah
My game is definitely broken
Techno terror
Does have an insanity difficulty
And i can't either play
I cant play in any digital rift
But i beated insanity
In the megalodog rift
Im confused now
My game is definitely broken
Bro
Im level 7
In horror rifts
And digital rifts
I beated megalodog
In insanity
But Jason appears that isnt available in that difficulty
But theres literally videos innthay difficulty
As same with the new one
And i cant play any rift in insanity being level 7 and 8
Im feeling scammed rn
bold steeple
he’s here
shy crescent
is agent smith actually just op?
faint zinc
is agent smith actually just op?
hes good i wouldnt say op quite yet
calm loom
Can anyone help me with rifts?
faint zinc
@calm loom
rift 1 requires easy experienced and crushing (min level 4)
rift 2 requires easy experienced and crushing (min level 4)
rift 3 required easy experienced and crushing (min level 4)
rift 4 requires easy experienced and insanity (min level 7)
rift 5 requires easy experienced and insanity (min level 7)
rift 6 requires easy experienced and insanity (min level 7)
rift 7 requires easy and insanity (min level 7)
this is 20 rifts
calm loom
Im level 7 but for some reason it says new rifts insanity mode is unavailable
calm loom
<@939552492662972446>
rift 1 requires easy experienced and crushing (min level ...
I did the first 3 rifts at 100%
I just need to do
Insanity
In the others
And for some reason im level 7 but cant do insanity rifts
shy crescent
hes good i wouldnt say op quite yet
Im tryna beat him as garnet and i get stuck in like a 0-50 combo where I cant even dodge
shy crescent
majority of smith players dont know what a true combo is
Honestly I dont even know
His moves are so weird I cant even tell them apart
faint zinc
only 0-50 combo he has is jab 1 > utilt > downwards gun > dair > jab 1 > utilt > gun
thats true at least
calm loom
And for some reason im level 7 but cant do insanity rifts
Level 8 at the digital ones but still cant do the fourth one in insanity
calm loom
Level 8 at the digital ones but still cant do the fourth one in insanity
The only rift i have unlocked
In insanity difficulty
Is the megalodog one
shy crescent
thats true at least
Could it be from garnet being a bigger target
faint zinc
i can play w you for a bit so you can understand the mu
calm loom
In insanity difficulty
And the new one should be unlocked but it isnt
south valve
only 0-50 combo he has is jab 1 > utilt > downwards gun > dair > jab 1 > utilt >...
Does only jab 1 connect with up tilt?
faint zinc
ive played smith all day and have over 150 wins with him rn
faint zinc
Does only jab 1 connect with up tilt?
yes
south valve
Damn how did I miss that in training
faint zinc
@shy crescent whats your ign
shy crescent
<@656645792555335690> whats your ign
ign?
faint zinc
oh
shy crescent
😭
sick beacon
I'm starting to think that Finn vs Agent Smith is a really bad matchup for Smith
shy crescent
Ill let u know when im on tomorrow
faint zinc
I'm starting to think that Finn vs Agent Smith is a really bad matchup for Smith
i have it as +1 for smith
its not bad at all
smith players just suck
sick beacon
I've been losing constantly to Finn and knowledgeable players can just read your attacks and dodge them on the fly
How is Smith any better than Finn?
faint zinc
2 words
handcannon camping
finn literally cannot approach you if you utilize handcannon correctly
faint zinc
and for some reason smith has enough range to have the same length jab as finn does
dreamy zodiac
idk, something I'm doing is wrong because this char is aids
faint zinc
i play t&j as my main
and im like top 10 smith on ladder rn
t&j is +2 i promise you
that mu is literally attrocious for t&j
eager vector
Me. Me. Me.
faint zinc
they need to plan so far ahead that they're doing moves in advance trying to hit smith
eager vector
why does smith has the tag assassin on discord lol
faint zinc
no clue
eager vector
this must be a teaser to Lebron James coming to mvs!!!
dreamy zodiac
that mu is literally attrocious for t&j
Explain what smith has to make that mu miserable
long grove
I think tnj has been the most frustrating thing to fight
So much paddling. Annoying how long that move lasts while you try to move away from them in the air
dreamy zodiac
every one just paddles all da
eager vector
UwU kitten ears smith skin when
faint zinc
Explain what smith has to make that mu miserable
hand cannon
everyone here doesnt realize how broken it actually is
it destroys projectiles
proper mango
what we thinkin about this mf chat
faint zinc
got timed out but hand cannon is also disjointed like hell
grounded down special can also tank hits
median grotto
what we thinkin about this mf chat
he's fun and good
faint zinc
and t&j is extremely light making it super easy to get kills off him
its not smith's best mu, but its definetly top 5 best mus for him
median grotto
and t&j is extremely light making it super easy to get kills off him
Problem is, T&J are fast and have low startup on most of their moves, it makes neutral for Smith tough since most of his deal is having low startup
faint zinc
Problem is, T&J are fast and have low startup on most of their moves, it makes n...
hand cannon
median grotto
it only takes 1 T&J that knows how to box you out for the matchup to flip
faint zinc
its an insane move to use and hella broken
median grotto
has nothing to do with the point at hand
faint zinc
id be surprised if it didnt get nerfed
faint zinc
has nothing to do with the point at hand
you just dont know how to fight t&j idk what to tell you
hand cannon plays the game for you
median grotto
Again
sure
but that has nothing to do with the topic of the T&J matchup
that's just universal Smith advantage
faint zinc
ok so what do you struggle with in the mu then
median grotto
When did I say that?
faint zinc
nvm thought you were someone else
but hand cannon literally stops tennis balls and corks, same with grounded down special
smith can go in at diagonal angles extremely well which is the best way to get in on t&j
though instead of going for jab for most of your combo starters, you're probably going to have to go for down angled gun into dash sair as an opening
gun outranges all of t&j's moves except for paddle but you really shouldnt be going above t&j anyways
also smith's dash attack low profiles most of t&j's projectiles too
sick beacon
why does smith has the tag assassin on discord lol
Either the game itself is wrong and he's meant to be an Assassin, or the Discord is wrong and he's meant to be a Bruiser
Either way somebody messed up here XD
faint zinc
forgot to mention that
faint zinc
Either the game itself is wrong and he's meant to be an Assassin, or the Discord...
hes definetly a bruiser
discord is wrong
sick beacon
Agreed lol
faint zinc
just from today smith is my 7th highest level character
south valve
best follow up after the duplicate grabs the enemy?
sick beacon
Nice!
I got him to lvl 8 so far. In spite of my losses, I really love playing as him and figuring out how to make his kit work in the heat of the moment.
Being able to summon a minion, have them chuck an opponent at me, then have so many options to follow up with is so satisfying to me.
faint zinc
best follow up after the duplicate grabs the enemy?
if you're using freeze perk, aerial down special > dair/uair or sair if you're going for a combo
or nair if you dont want a heavy hitting combo
if you're not using freeze perk go for dair > down gun > jab1 > utilt > uair
south valve
if you're using freeze perk, aerial down special > dair/uair or sair if you're g...
does aerial down special really have that much hitstun cuz dair seems pretty slow for a follow up
faint zinc
you get 3 hits of gun
then they bounce off the ground
leading for enough hitstun to land a dair
south valve
oh right
faint zinc
though depending on how far they go you may need to go for dash dair
dair also just isnt true above 70 so you would opt for sair or uair
south valve
Ok thanks 👍
faint zinc
his best and easy combo rn is
jab 1 > utilt > aerial down special > sair
solid 36 percent from 0
with hand canon though you would rather opt for just neutral special over aerial down special and dair over sair
south valve
no need to jump after uptilt?
dreamy zodiac
Where are people getting this flying spoons taunt for Smith?
south valve
Where are people getting this flying spoons taunt for Smith?
It’s a bug on some emojis
dreamy zodiac
Which ones?
south valve
for me it happens on the GG one from twitch drop
maiden bridge
ayyyyye
south valve
faint zinc
for me it happens on the GG one from twitch drop
Is the gg sticker still available?
Forgot to watch a stream ngl
static jolt
the age of smith is upon us.
gritty monolith
I’m too lazy to do the rifts
red knot
This chracters is so sick
eager vector
What are some true combos you guys have found?
So far i found jab into jab into jab
dire star
Just now noticed this channel. Now the real fun begins Mr. Anderson.😎
hollow orbit
Finally
eager vector
UwU
hollow orbit
Is the gg sticker still available?
Any sticker can work
Like the salt emoji cloud emoji etc
median grotto
Where are people getting this flying spoons taunt for Smith?
Use any sticker emote and he'll do the spoon taunt instead
cedar root
Do you guys think smith is balanced?
cedar root
Jab, up attack, jump, down air seems to be a good start for a combo
I use neutral attack and side special after this, it can kill early but the side special isn’t true
cedar root
solid 36 percent from 0
There’s one that does 43 and one that does 63 that idk about
eager vector
I cant get neatral attack to combo into anything😭
cedar root
It usually works after down air but everything smith does is inconsistent
eager vector
He is not The One
hallow stag
Jab, up attack, jump, down air seems to be a good start for a combo
it is more consitant with up dodge instead of jump then you can follow up with neutral special true
or better second up atk into nspecial
aim up
I wonder if yoou guys found a use for the down atk tho ^^
cedar root
it is more consitant with up dodge instead of jump then you can follow up with n...
I cannot do the up dodge but I’ll keep trying, I usually use jump because it’s easier for me
cedar root
I wonder if yoou guys found a use for the down atk tho ^^
Down atk to neutral attack is true, so it’s a good combo Ender
hallow stag
I cannot do the up dodge but I’ll keep trying, I usually use jump because it’s e...
hum that s strange it is the other way for me more consitant with up dodge
cedar root
Yeah it is but I’m not good at up dodge to down attack
Sometimes I still mess up because I hold down while jumping lmao
hallow stag
I just switch again my neutral and side cuz it was impossible to do xpivot that way ^^
we still learning the game x)
cedar root
What’s xpivot?
hallow stag
when you dash in a way and quick turn to attack in the other side
cedar root
Also the neutral special can go into side special and can kill really early because ppl don’t expect it even tho it’s not true
hallow stag
Down atk to neutral attack is true, so it’s a good combo Ender
how you perform that dude ? xD
cedar root
Also a lot of ppl don’t know that neutral special combos into jab if you dodge
cedar root
how you perform that dude ? xD
A combo I use that works a lot is:
Jab, neutral special, dodge, jab, up attack, jump/up dodge, down atk, neutral attack, side special
Does 41 if you don’t hit the side special
Because thays the only non-true part
cedar root
I found ^^
Nice:D
You can use it 3 times but it’s hard to
Also he has an infinite lol
hallow stag
is that true on high damage ?
cedar root
is that true on high damage ?
No it doesn’t work on higher damage which sucks
So I just do jab, up atk, jump, up atk
Jab to natk only works up to 60-ish
I think
hallow stag
yeah i mean it s ok we can kill pretty early on smith
cedar root
I can either kill early or at 150
hallow stag
^^
lost prism
combos?
cedar root
If you do n special facing down, does that combo into jab if you dodge?
hallow stag
yes it work
cedar root
Yeah or just jab, up atk, n special facing down, dodge, loop
red knot
A combo I use that works a lot is:
Jab, neutral special, dodge, jab, up attack, ...
That doesnt work with the handgun perk does it?
cedar root
That doesnt work with the handgun perk does it?
I only use the handgun perk lol
hallow stag
That doesnt work with the handgun perk does it?
yes why not
red knot
Ohh nice
cedar root
A lot of times it doesn’t work with combos
Because the 1 shot has more knock back than the 2 or 3 shot
red knot
I thought you needed the extra shots for some of his combos
hallow stag
I use 5% dont think his perks are ok
cedar root
I use 5% dont think his perks are ok
His handgun can kill so early and extends his gun range by a decent amount
If you’re on the side it can kill at 60 sometimes
hallow stag
😮
red knot
Yeah handgun is really good
hallow stag
it extand the range ?
cedar root
Yep
hallow stag
hum crazy
cedar root
If you have more than one bullet it has a sweet spot that extends the range
buoyant ruin
5% is good and the multihit can be useful but i think one shot is easily his best
lost prism
best perks?
buoyant ruin
maybe for certain MUs you want the multihit
cedar root
best perks?
I use hand_gun, snowball, the fast one, and the punchy one
buoyant ruin
yeah same
cedar root
Multi hit can be good for combos but in general handgun is more fun
red knot
Its sad that, thats flammable doc doesn’t work on his gun
cedar root
Yeahh but it makes sense
Does it work with his decoy because it counts as a projectile?
red knot
Yeahh but it makes sense
Yeah it would be very strong
cedar root
Smith reminds me of Happy chaos ngl
red knot
Does it work with his decoy because it counts as a projectile?
Probably but i dont know for sure
buoyant ruin
you're never running it just for decoy regardless
hallow stag
cant find the early kill unfortunately ^^
cedar root
Side special kill early for me but he’s inconsistent so idk
Also I gtg byee have fun with smithy
red knot
Side special kill early for me but he’s inconsistent so idk
Yeah the range on that can really surprise you
red knot
Also I gtg byee have fun with smithy
Bye!
hallow stag
you can deny an approch to agressive with down atk
as he got armor on the moove
not bad
cya mate
light ruin
what the combos
red knot
A combo I use that works a lot is:
Jab, neutral special, dodge, jab, up attack, ...
Thats a gooe one
red knot
what the combos
.
light ruin
Thats a gooe one
oh i see, thank you kind sir
red knot
👍
eager vector
true combo: jab into jab into jab
odd star
does down attack break armor
it doesnt have the purple effect so im confused since all characters have armor break on down attack
bleak spire
it doesnt have the purple effect so im confused since all characters have armor ...
nah not all
bleak spire
yeah seems like it
odd star
hes gonna struggle against ww and superman
i think thats his only downside rn
he seem like a good character that isnt broken
bleak spire
that's trrue he's pretty fun he might just have a hard time against certain matchups
like maybe morty and superman
idk how to counter morty lol so annoying
glossy bough
that gun is criminal
glossy bough
Its sad that, thats flammable doc doesn’t work on his gun
pugilist works w it though
frozen garnet
Dang Smith’s glock is so good 🔫
hazy flare
so he doesnt have any armor break moves
technically his 3rd jab and his grounded + aerial neutral attacks are grabs, which beat armor, and his gun being a multihit beats armor
But there are obvious issues with those haha
twin geyser
Smith has a sort of loop
Jab, up tilt, n special aimed down
It’s true with one bullet atleast
hazy flare
that is a confirmed loop, yes
bleak spire
Jab, up tilt, n special aimed down
at what hp? i cant connect gun from up tilt launcher
near shale
megalodog rift broken
twin geyser
at what hp? i cant connect gun from up tilt launcher
You have to short hop and then gun, and from what I’ve tested it looks true until ~75
lime vale
I'm still trying to unlock him
calm loom
I'm still trying to unlock him
how many levels do you have so far
i just need 3 more bosses
to unlock him
lime vale
I need 9
past root
oh heyyy finally, was waiting for this
now to read everything... 
hazy flare
In case up attack + gun loops get nerfed, sair on grounded opponents forces a ground bounce, so you can follow up with dair, leads to a combo like:
sair -> dodge jump dair -> n. special (down) -> jab1 -> up attack -> nair
eager vector
I wish Agent Smith would come to multiversus
civic juniper
Everyone enjoying playing as Smith?
lime vale
Wish I could use him outfit of the rift
teal salmon
Everyone enjoying playing as Smith?
pretty fun ngl
hazy flare
Another fun combo ender is jab1 -> n. special (down) -> side special
works as long as they bounce on the stage after gun
twin geyser
In case up attack + gun loops get nerfed, sair on grounded opponents forces a gr...
Yeah but it’s hard to hit the sair, which is why I like starting with clone < n special aimed down as a combo starter
hazy flare
It's just another option
jagged crypt
What’s the best way to hit clone
hazy flare
You don't
jagged crypt
Oh ok
cedar root
He is a bruiser but the game has so many glitches so it’s probably just that
jagged crypt
Also isn’t smith a bruiser? Here it says he’s an assassin on my end
He was likely originally gonna be an assassin since his character icon in the event used to appear as one
cedar root
He def doesn’t play as an assassin right now lol
hallow stag
class dosnt matter anyway they make no sense in this game
WW hit harder than bruser same for the Joker
Morty and Marvin has wrong class too
It is probably random at this ppoint
cedar root
Mages rely on their skills and have longer cooldowns.
bruisers deal heavy hits but can’t kill other than a few moves.
assassins are used for killing either early or after a bunch of damage.
tanks are like bruisers but slower and hard to kill.
light ruin
Mages rely on their skills and have longer cooldowns.
bruisers deal heavy hits b...
the tags are still wrong
on a few
wicked imp
The tags are almost meaningless because so many characters are either misclassified or fit into too many classes
How can Steven be a tank when he is no where near as heavy as the others and isn’t slow in the slightest?
Why is Morty a bruiser when he has more cooldowns and projectiles than some mages?
Why is Batman a bruiser when he has the combo damage and light weight of an assassin?
cedar root
How can Steven be a tank when he is no where near as heavy as the others and isn...
Steven is a mage but for some reason says both a tank and mage, but ig his shields protect and stuff
wicked imp
Steven is misclassified because he was a “support” in the beta but they removed that class
wicked imp
They were all basically team-based characters who didn’t have any kill power and relied on partners to kill
cedar root
Basically rein and Steven I don’t think there’s any others tho
wicked imp
But then they buffed all the support characters so they’re basically the same as bruisers
But now they have team-helping projectiles
wicked imp
Mages rely on their skills and have longer cooldowns.
bruisers deal heavy hits b...
These descriptions are also completely inaccurate for some of them like assassins
Assassins are basically “big combo damage but weaker kill power than bruisers” but they can ladder combo into the blast zone for occasional early kills
Bruisers are just “uses fists to fight without many projectiles”
Mages are just “uses projectiles”
And tanks are just “heavy weight”
Except that’s not even consistent because Garnet is as heavy as Wonder Woman or potentially heavier
cedar root
Mages are just “uses projectiles”
I mean Morty doesn’t have many projectiles and is usually fists to fight
Or a hammer
cedar root
And tanks are just “heavy weight”
Also all tanks are heavy hitters other than Steven but he’s weird
And are also used for defending which is why WW is a tank and not garnet
And Batman is a assassin/bruiser mix because he has combos but mainly hits hard and he’s used for dealing a lot of damage
While using little projectiles and fists
And Marvin should get a buff to be an actual projectile-assassin
Also Idk when I’ll respond again cuz my phone is about to die and I don’t have a charger rn
topaz relic
tanks have some form of defensive gimmick that's slightly beyond the one armored move you'd see on a bruiser
I'm pretty certain batman is only a bruiser because he doesn't kill people, none of the rest are classified that way but I think that's the reason why
light ruin
whoever doesn't have handgun wins the ditto
i like handgun better but i think it comes out slower bc you just lose every exchange involving gun if you have it
lime vale
Steven is a mage but for some reason says both a tank and mage, but ig his shiel...
They removed the Mage Tag a couple patches ago
weak sun
Which main perk is everyone using?
I’m between the basic 5% one and the gun one
I did some testing and saw that the 3 shots were dealing better damage than the perk, even with the sweetspot, so now I’m on the fence
jagged crypt
The perk is more about combos from what I gathered
weak sun
Even in combos, the max of 3 shots was outperforming the single shot
Unless it’s just for knockback
But I didn’t notice more knockback honestly
prime oak
I think the gun perk depends on MU
Cuz I think its great for dealing with characters you want disjoints for like IG and Superman
prime oak
As far as I know the main combo is Jab1-Uptilt-Dair and then whatever
wicked imp
I mean Morty doesn’t have many projectiles and is usually fists to fight
Dude is literally dirt the character. But he also has grenades, a pellet gun with snakes, his up b is a whole platform, and his down b is a teammate save. He’s so far removed from a bruiser it’s insane
wicked imp
And Marvin should get a buff to be an actual projectile-assassin
There is literally nothing about Marvin that makes him an assassin besides being light. He has by far the most projectiles, tons of cooldowns, poor kill power in relation to bruisers, and nowhere close to the combo game of assassins
Marvin is a mage
But I’m not gonna spam this channel anymore with dumb classes
Anyway I’m at 19/20 rifts for Smith but I don’t have enough red gems, so maybe tomorrow I’ll have enough idk
upbeat spoke
How do you hit downward gun after up tilt consistently
bold steeple
Dude is literally dirt the character. But he also has grenades, a pellet gun wit...
idk why he’s a bruiser honestly he feels like a mage
upbeat spoke
Mages rely on their skills and have longer cooldowns.
bruisers deal heavy hits b...
I canr speak for the other classes but Assassin's are characters that are defined by having unavoidable set play in my eyes. Harley bomb, arya knife, marvin set ups, finn money. Once they get something rolling you just die
upbeat spoke
Marvin is a mage
Marvin is not a mage
south ermine
I think Morty is a bruiser just in terms of being able to do a lot of damage but not having any crazy good early kill moves
unless you're megalodog
wicked imp
Marvin is not a mage
He should be, but he’s an assassin for literally no reason
upbeat spoke
He's an assassin because he restricts options only leading you to die
He's just really bad at doing it
hazy flare
How do you hit downward gun after up tilt consistently
up attack -> release -> jump -> neutral special button -> down
Hitting down too soon will stop you from jumping
upbeat spoke
He also doesnt have the necessary tools to be a proper mage
hazy flare
What tools make a "proper mage"?
upbeat spoke
up attack -> release -> jump -> neutral special button -> down
Hitting down too ...
Why do you say release?
hazy flare
because you have to release up or your neutral special won't work
upbeat spoke
Jab, uptilt, (i'm assuming no charge) and then the rest of the string? Or like release as in you need a bit of charge
south ermine
He just means don't accidentally do up b I think
wicked imp
He's an assassin because he restricts options only leading you to die
In what way do Finn and Harley “restrict options”
If anything, Wonder Woman armor is more of a move that restricts options
hazy flare
He just means don't accidentally do up b I think
and don't do neutral special aimed upwards
upbeat spoke
What tools make a "proper mage"?
Most the mages, excluding like. Debatably joker. Have tools to play slower and punish the opponent for failing to approach where as marvin is actively trying to approach his opponent
All be it slowly
south ermine
In what way do Finn and Harley “restrict options”
Well I'd like to touch the ground and they restrict that a lot
upbeat spoke
In what way do Finn and Harley “restrict options”
Not all assassins have too
wicked imp
Well I'd like to touch the ground and they restrict that a lot
Taz does that too with his charged utilt
upbeat spoke
I canr speak for the other classes but Assassin's are characters that are define...
^read this
hazy flare
Most the mages, excluding like. Debatably joker. Have tools to play slower and ...
what about Bugs?
upbeat spoke
You cant mindlessly push forward on bugs
His buttons are too stubby
I punish bugs that get aggro on me for free
wicked imp
I canr speak for the other classes but Assassin's are characters that are define...
This is true of the vast majority of the cast
Not just assassins
topaz galleon
what tier would you guys put smith at
hazy flare
too early to tell tbh
but loops are not healthy for the game and because of them he's probably very high right now
wicked imp
Bro it’s literally day 2 lmao
topaz galleon
some people already have crazy amounts of wins with him
wicked imp
You can farm wins by spamming easy rifts since they also add to your win stat
topaz galleon
actually that is true
upbeat spoke
That description applies for Marvin too
Hm?
wicked imp
But I saw some guy legitimately pulled an all-nighter playing only Agent Smith and has like 500+ wins
So like there are also those people
upbeat spoke
This is true of the vast majority of the cast
I think its more true for assasins than it is for others idk,
hazy flare
Can't mindlessly push forward + has tools to play slow and punish for not approaching
wicked imp
I think its more true for assasins than it is for others idk,
A lot of characters have “win more” mechanics
upbeat spoke
Marvin bubble, jab 3, arent used for playing back
wicked imp
Taz gets one good combo and now you’re defenseless as a chicken
upbeat spoke
They're used as kill set ups
south ermine
Am i crazy or are all of the assassins classified as vertical killers
hazy flare
bubble is absolutely not exclusively a kill setup
topaz galleon
But I saw some guy legitimately pulled an all-nighter playing only Agent Smith a...
i haven't gotten that many jake wins since the game came out lmao
upbeat spoke
Bubble combos into itself and kills at like 30, ufo kills any percent depending on position. And jab 3 is also like off stage set up/kill took
wicked imp
Batman has the best air acceleration so he easily chases down and follows opponents for juggles with his huge aerial up special. Not to mention his combo game is excellent and batterang while not as good as in beta is still good at controlling neutral
hazy flare
Bubble combos into itself and kills at like 30, ufo kills any percent depending ...
how are you killing at 30 with bubble?
upbeat spoke
Jab1-2 bubble (with cooldown) jump, bubble, jump, bubble, up special/up air
hazy flare
not gonna kill at 30
upbeat spoke
Batman has the best air acceleration so he easily chases down and follows oppone...
I think batman is more like an assassin idk why he's a bruiser
upbeat spoke
not gonna kill at 30
Want a clip of it?
wicked imp
I canr speak for the other classes but Assassin's are characters that are define...
Bugs is also a set play character who utilizes safe and rocket along with his tunnels to wall off options from his opponents
So by your definition, he should also be an assassin
upbeat spoke
As do i? I actively play the character as well Its a ladder combo
wicked imp
I think batman is more like an assassin idk why he's a bruiser
Because “Batman doesn’t kill people”
wicked imp
Because “Batman doesn’t kill people”
Legitimately this is the reason
hazy flare
Furthermore, bubble isn't exclusively a kill setup
it does fill the role of a tool that you can use in neutral to punish not approaching
which is something a mage uses
upbeat spoke
Bugs is also a set play character who utilizes safe and rocket along with his tu...
Bugs doesn't use safe nor tunnel to wall off options. More so to threaten them and own space on the screen, and unlike assassins he kinda needs both to function in his horrid spot rn
prime oak
what tier would you guys put smith at
Too early to tell but as with his loops and all-rounder abilities rn I got him at low top 10
wicked imp
Bugs doesn't use safe nor tunnel to wall off options. More so to threaten them a...
That’s literally no different from Marvin shooting his gun to cover space
hazy flare
Want a clip of it?
I'm doing it right now on Shaggy and it doesn't kill at 60
upbeat spoke
it does fill the role of a tool that you can use in neutral to punish not approa...
poorly* a slow projectile unless you want to use another cd that has limited range? And is easy to dodge through?
prime oak
Only class that is misplaced imo is Morty, Marvin fits fine as an assasin
wicked imp
I’d classify a mage as a character with enough tools (primarily projectiles) to adequately camp and force approaches
Basically just set up a wall
hazy flare
Also Gizmo is scrappy as heck
prime oak
I’d classify a mage as a character with enough tools (primarily projectiles) to ...
Yeah and Marvin cant really do that
Morty can tho which is why I think he fits mage better
upbeat spoke
applies to most mage's tools
Those other characters you listed have that Cd more often and their uses are quite frankly less versatile than Marvin bubble
wicked imp
Assassins I feel similarly to bruisers are forced to approach because they don’t have the tools to camp
With Marvin being the only exception
upbeat spoke
Like unironically i think marvin bubble is closer to bugs pie than it is bugs safe
hazy flare
yes
upbeat spoke
I'm doing it right now on Shaggy and it doesn't kill at 60
Also give me a second
hushed plank
I made it to 100 wins on agent smith, send help before I make it to 200
wicked imp
Yeah and Marvin cant really do that
Marvin can’t really approach either, so is he just a nothing then?
upbeat spoke
I'm doing it right now on Shaggy and it doesn't kill at 60
My bad i've gotten reads and killed with it earlier
But you cant di nor dodge outta it
wicked imp
Assassins and bruisers are basically the same except for 3 things:
true marsh
What are his sig perks
wicked imp
But like PFG doesn’t even seem to know how to classify several characters and many of them don’t even fit their premise descriptions of the classes anyway
upbeat spoke
Also button makes bubbled projectiles an assassiney tool by nature. Hence the unavoidable death set up part of his kit
hazy flare
What are his sig perks
Hand cannon: Moves using gun fire one time, with a sweetspot at the end
Freeze Protocol: Grounded down special holds the enemy in place instead of throwing them
Buddy System: Up special can attach to an ally and use an extended version
wicked imp
I’d argue button is way more of a mage tool than anything
You’re enhancing your projectile game
upbeat spoke
And those projectiles are used to kill you early in place of safely killing free from harm
hazy flare
If you ask every Marvin player what the #1 problem with him is, they will say lack of kill power
upbeat spoke
Yeah, thats because he's a bad assassin
But his kit is still of that of an assassin. Just not a good one
wicked imp
Tom and Jerry is an assassin because they have extended combos and Jerry shot is a combo tool that leads to a lot of setups, several of which can lead to early kills
By your logic
upbeat spoke
That is not what im saying at all and i cant see how you got there
upbeat spoke
They use their tools differently snd play different roles
upbeat spoke
Gizmo is an assassin B)
Arrow to up air setups
I have no clue wtf gizmo is other than stupid
wicked imp
The class system itself is just stupid because there is clearly so much room for interpretation and misclassification is apparently too easy
onyx sequoia
I legitimately don’t see how Marvin and T&J are so different
T&J can't make his projectiles home in on people for starters.
Marvin doesn't have any up-tilt loops.
hazy flare
so T&J is more of an assassin
wicked imp
T&J can't make his projectiles home in on people for starters.
Marvin doesn't ha...
Harley had loops in the beta and she’s always been considered an assassin
long grove
Have the same move set
Shaggy has Armour and can throw sandwhiches.
wicked imp
Loops don’t mean anything especially because half the cast had loops on relaunch
hazy flare
Shaggy has Armour and can throw sandwhiches.
that was the point of the comment
onyx sequoia
Harley had loops in the beta and she’s always been considered an assassin
Yeah but like most of the game has loops. 🤷♀️
That's not a class exclusive thing when Iron Giant doesn't have to sugarcoat it.
hazy flare
Shaggy =/= Banana Guard even thought they're both bruisers
wicked imp
Yeah but like *most* of the game has loops. 🤷♀️
That's not a class exclusive ...
My point exactly about how loops aren’t unique to anyone
onyx sequoia
Loops don’t mean anything especially because half the cast had loops on relaunch
It's a difference between the characters. 
wicked imp
Ok sure give everyone character their own unique class
upbeat spoke
I think its a playstyle and tool thing idk
onyx sequoia
My point exactly about how loops aren’t unique to anyone
Unless your name is Marvin of course.
He kinda just throws projectiles at you, and you walk out with 60%. 😆
upbeat spoke
Thats just my 2 cents
wicked imp
Oh wait now what’s the point 
onyx sequoia
That the classes in this game are goofy.
Like you can tell they didn't know what to do with Steven since they took out support.
wicked imp
Classes are so irrelevant to how a character plays because they all play very differently
If anything, a character class system would work in Smash Ultimate because half the cast plays the same
upbeat spoke
I only play assassins i cant even comment on the rest of the roster but idek
wicked imp
But it really doesn’t in MVS
upbeat spoke
If anything, a character class system would work in Smash Ultimate because half ...
Nah
It wouldnt make sense to have one to begin with in that game
wicked imp
They don’t make sense at all in the majority of fighting games
We’ve come so far from the stereotypical archetypes
There’s way too much overlap
long grove
They don’t make sense at all in the majority of fighting games
For the longest time I thought Marvin was a mage
Because he's projectile focus.
wicked imp
I thought he was one in beta but I could be wrong
onyx sequoia
If anything, a character class system would work in Smash Ultimate because half ...
It would work even worse in that game.
Mostly cause you'd have to make more classes to the point where it would be somewhat pointless for classification unless you really over simplfied everything.
long grove
I thought he was one in beta but I could be wrong
Same
onyx sequoia
Like what class would Steve with all his shtick?
Or like Pyra & Mythra they switch playstyles mid game.
Sora's like a hybrid of swordie, projectiles, and burst movement
But he doesn't play like a swordie.
Can't play like a zoner
And defo isn't a rushdown.
What do you even call that?
wicked imp
Because he's projectile focus.
This is what I think mages are. Projectile focused characters
long grove
This is what I think mages are. Projectile focused characters
Exactly. Bugs and Rick makes sense. So not sure why Marvin isn't one either.
wicked imp
Like what class would Steve with all his shtick?
Or like Pyra & Mythra they swit...
Whatever name for a defensive camper
Oh for Steve I mean
onyx sequoia
Defensive camper describes like 3 different archetypes.
You could be a zoner.
hit & run
wicked imp
There’s way way more than 3
onyx sequoia
Or bait & punish.
true marsh
Hand cannon: Moves using gun fire one time, with a sweetspot at the end
Freeze P...
Ah thanks
onyx sequoia
There’s way way more than 3
True
wicked imp
Rushdown, grappler, and Jack-of-all-trades are 3 more
onyx sequoia
Like the 0 to death squad all my homies H8 Kazuya/Luigi, and sometimes Icies.
But they're all fairly defensive-campy characters.
Despite having very little overlap in how they're played.
wicked imp
Ult literally has its own class of “Luigi-like characters”
Characters that just fish for one neutral win and kill with a single combo
There’s like 5 of them
onyx sequoia
There's like 2
You can SDI Luigi combos.
You can defo SDI Falco combos
And you can 100% SDI Bayo combos
Then she doens't kill you until 160.
I mean I guess if you don't know how to do that.
Then there's 7 or so.
wicked imp
If you’re consistently escaping Luigi combos with SDI, then the Luigi player isn’t good
onyx sequoia
So I see what you mean. 🤷♀️
wicked imp
He has routes to follow every SDI option
onyx sequoia
If you’re consistently escaping Luigi combos with SDI, then the Luigi player isn...
It's not escaping the combo.
It's a matter of getting 80% instead losing a stock.
wicked imp
I’d know because I’m a Luigi main in Ult
onyx sequoia
He has routes to follow every SDI option
Yeah but not all of them kill you. :/
wicked imp
Oh no they all still do
Optimally, you can’t escape
You just make the Luigi have to react and not autopilot
God forbid you play a big character because then SDI doesn’t even matter
long grove
Uh i just faced someone who had Smith but only defeated 16 bosses.
onyx sequoia
You just make the Luigi have to react and not autopilot
A properly DI'd Nair results in reverse up-air loops not up-b confirms.
That's a good reaction, but needs the ledge to take stocks.
onyx sequoia
Uh i just faced someone who had Smith but only defeated 16 bosses.
He hacked into the matrix. 🧠
jagged crypt
Uh i just faced someone who had Smith but only defeated 16 bosses.
The badge sometimes doesn’t work
I only have 19 bosses listed
long grove
Weird
onyx sequoia
I kinda wish I'd just be able to buy Smith instead.
wicked imp
A properly DI'd Nair results in reverse up-air loops not up-b confirms.
Ok, congrats instead of dair landing uair up b, you instead eat like 6+ reverse uairs into bair or up b and still die
kindred agate
I kinda wish I'd just be able to buy Smith instead.
2 weeks you can
thats what im doing
fresh goblet
I did the rifts bc ftp free character is pretty lit
kindred agate
playing a character 2 weeks early is not worth the hellish grind of the rifts
wicked imp
I’m at 19/20 rifts but I don’t have enough red gems
fresh goblet
The rifts werent hard tho
If you did them over time like a normal person
Instead of trying to do them all in one sitting.
wicked imp
Honestly, if you didn’t play the beta to unlock every character, playing rifts to get him free is worth because of how stingy they are with fighter currency
fresh goblet
Real ig, most of the fighter currency is locked behind playins characters and leveling them up.
Which the weekly rotation is supposed to solve
Idk I hope they keep doing events like this for whole ahh characters
wicked imp
I stupidly didn’t spend all my gold in beta so now I have like 200k perk currency 
I only have like half the cast unlocked
fresh goblet
I have a good bit of the cast unlocked but I really only buy who I play
I go into training and test extensively before I buy characters
wicked imp
Thank god they brought that back
fresh goblet
I've bought a couple to meet event requirements, but very rarely, like when I have an excess of currency.
wicked imp
Not being able to try characters at relaunch was awful
fresh goblet
It was fixed relatively fast
wicked imp
Especially for newbies who only have Shaggy and Banana Guard after 2 days
fresh goblet
Like week 1
fresh goblet
Jesus
Can I ask
Any reliable kill options/way to confirm grab?
I feel like he has really good combos but his kill options are really only 110+
faint zinc
jab 1 > utilt is probably our best and most reliable kill confirm
wicked imp
The Rick confirm I see
faint zinc
I feel like he has really good combos but his kill options are really only 110+
he racks up dmg so quickly the 110 is like 70 for characters like finn
fresh goblet
he racks up dmg so quickly the 110 is like 70 for characters like finn
Yeah it just feels odd, I stopped trying to go for killed sub 100, and started to get more results. Feels like he's gotta work a little harder
Also does the up special feel odd to anyone else? It feels like it lacks a lot of priority, I've been getting jabbed out of it alot.
faint zinc
up special is only good when planking or if you land a clone grab
other than that, just dont use it
fresh goblet
I've been seeing people use down neutral to extend neutral chains
wicked imp
Also does the up special feel odd to anyone else? It feels like it lacks a lot o...
I think it’s the same as Superman and Morty side b because you can hit them out of theirs
fresh goblet
The armor on it is also pretty good.
faint zinc
I think it’s the same as Superman and Morty side b because you can hit them out ...
its not
the amount of times ive been spiked for using up special is insane
its not a good move at all
unless used in a planking scenario
fresh goblet
It needs some kind of priority increase, neutrals should not be out prioing an up special imo.
I think it needs armor but I fear that'd make it too OP
fresh goblet
Real
fresh goblet
Bro is cool fs but I'm still waiting for my true main
A samurai wielding a magic katana that can vanquish all evil....
proper mango
Do you guys think smith is balanced?
hella late i was scrolling through this channel lmao. But imo not really. He feels mostly balanced but his upair is crazy good and any of his gun attacks especially with sweet spot are crazy good as well. Hella kill power with lots of attacks
onyx sequoia
Ok, congrats instead of dair landing uair up b, you instead eat like 6+ reverse ...
You eat like 4 on a normal character and Bair doesn't kill unless you're near ledge
And up-b is notably harder to land reliably in comparison character's been out for half a decade and people still drop it.
Gives Marth tippers run for their money.
river urchin
Aye this channel is finally up
onyx sequoia
Do you guys think smith is balanced?
His punish game is like super duper cracked but his up-special is laggier then I expected.
Not sure how to feel about the dude.
proper mango
need more playtime with him to tell for sure lmao
proper mango
oh yeah for sure in 2s hes crazy
hazy flare
yeah I can definitely see him being fun in 2v2
faint zinc
need more playtime with him to tell for sure lmao
my 500 wins are def mu checks but he still seems very strong
proper mango
other night i was playing with my friend and it made his bugs game feel like beta bugs with the amount of stuff happening on screen it was wild
fresh goblet
Aye this channel is finally up
Oh brother, look at this guy 😒
river urchin
Oh brother, look at this guy 😒
What did I do
proper mango
my 500 wins are def mu checks but he still seems very strong
im a bit dum dum what does mu mean lol
river urchin
im a bit dum dum what does mu mean lol
Matchup
proper mango
ahh okay
river urchin
You know what you did
I am innocent!
proper mango
im with perchance free my boy 🔥
river urchin
im with perchance free my boy 🔥
🙏
Evan we can be friends just one thing first
Who do you main?
proper mango
i main an assortment of characters. buggs, morty, now smith, gizmo, and ww
well less so buggs i havent played him in a bit
river urchin
Alr I’ll just ignore a couple and say you play smith 🤝
proper mango
Now that smith is out and that his gameplay is actually fun, this makes me hopeful for future character drops 🔥
(besides from the way we can obtain him without using currency, that was hell)
river urchin
Gonna have to do the rifts process all again next season 😭
Smith was worth it although
proper mango
ive heard a couple times that if beetlejuice gets added hes gonna be rifts also
proper mango
im praying we can keep our gem levels but im not too hopeful about that 😭
onyx sequoia
Now that smith is out and that his gameplay is actually fun, this makes me hopef...
If you ever need a fun character.
Just give them a gun.
proper mango
agreed
that part is so funny to me
everyone is fighting using some wacky moves from their franchise and then smith is just gun to the face
worldly niche
can someone test if jab1 -> neutral attack is true?
proper mango
speaking of true combos anyone know any? I've kinda just been doing whatever so far lol
river urchin
There’s some IAD stuff you can do up on yt
Some of them have super tight timing windows although
rancid jasper
I want to play more agent Smith but my internet is out graaa
born to play new character, forced to touch grass
river urchin
Just like Agent Smith would tell you
wicked imp
I want to play more agent Smith but my internet is out graaa
born to play new ch...
“Your internet outage was… inevitable”
full nimbus
speaking of true combos anyone know any? I've kinda just been doing whatever so ...
My personal favorite is jab 1 up tilt jump cancel neutral b angled down fast fall repeat until like 80% and then end with neutral b angled down nair
Magnum not required works just fine with triple shot
Also inconsistent but dash attack magnum side b is a kill confirm around 70%
More of a knowledge check on di
Refer to gsmVoid’s video for another variation of the same loop
ashen vortex
for the people who completed those god awful rifts is agent smith worth it?
somber sonnet
for the people who completed those god awful rifts is agent smith worth it?
Yeah, he's pretty fun
river urchin
Yes
hollow orbit
Combos for smit?
proper mango
perks for smith? i´m starting to play him
ive been using hand cannon as the main one and then snowball effect, speed force assist, and pugilist
proper mango
for the people who completed those god awful rifts is agent smith worth it?
about as worth it as it can be. The grind was hell on earth but the character has been super fun to play
glossy bough
How can Steven be a tank when he is no where near as heavy as the others and isn...
he used to be a support
but they scrapped that role entirely
morty only really has two projectiles
snakeshot and grenades
he fits bruiser tbh
marvin boxes with his projectiles for the most part
maiden bridge
Honestly I don’t think he’s that good
full nimbus
Nah you gotta test him more hes mobile and does a crap ton of dmg and has tnj loops
river urchin
He’s better in 2s than ones
You can bully people trying to recover if you are coordinated
full nimbus
2s hes a side b machine that thing’s hitbox is way too big
river urchin
You can control so much space in 2s with neutral special also
glossy bough
marvin is really solid im ngl
maiden bridge
who? marvin?
No the character that the channel is actually about
glossy bough
oh mbmb
glossy bough
No the character that the channel is actually about
I was just speaking about marvin and then you say I honestly dont think hes that good😭
maiden bridge
It’s cool
full nimbus
Anyone coming into a channel for the first time never looks at the messages sent literally a minute beforehand so like thats not yr fault 💀
glossy bough
No the character that the channel is actually about
Also smith is cracked
that gun is a warcrime
river urchin
Character is nasty, already have a ton of clips with him
glossy bough
im kinda annoyed you cant force smith out of bullets though
then his disadvantage would be a lot more punishable
maiden bridge
I mean it could just be that I gotta get used to him
Since he feels so different compared to the rest of the roster
river urchin
His disadvantage state gets created fast while also disappearing quickly
glossy bough
His disadvantage state gets created fast while also disappearing quickly
so it just feels like his disadvantage is minimal
river urchin
He’s not great at escaping that state but yeah
If you are good at movement and neutral special you will probably have decent success with the character
maiden bridge
His neutral is insane
river urchin
Yup
stark anvil
Oh he finally had a channel now cool! I don't remember this being here yesterday. Anyways as the server's Smith mascot I'll be posting a ton of neat tidbits and funny stuff in regards to the character here
To start off, absolutely you should roll Snowball Effect and Pugilist perks with him. Somehow he has not a single projectile, but that makes Pugilist all the more worth using. And Snowball Effect's extra damage really adds up, it helps get some of his finishing blows out a tad more.
rancid jasper
I think his only projectile is down special grounded, being the agent he spawns
hollow orbit
Is there an agent smith cord yet
river urchin
Yeah I think that triggers flammable
stark anvil
Oh yeah the clone is a projectile however it's not something you're exactly going to be dealing damage with as it's a support tool, that and it isn't something you can spam like Bugs or Marvin's projectiles
river urchin
Of course
civic juniper
To start off, absolutely you should roll Snowball Effect and Pugilist perks with...
The gun's bullets are not considered projectiles???????
river urchin
Nope
stark anvil
Yeah, they're more like shotgun blasts and not bullets despite the fact they are bullets
civic juniper
What in the name of Team Fortress 2 hitscan is this nonsense
stark anvil
Fortnite
In all seriousness though it does make Pugilist the go-to perk for him
As for his Signature Perk, Hand Cannon and Freeze_Protocol are both very good in their own right. You can use either or and see great success.
glossy bough
The gun's bullets are not considered projectiles???????
melee attack that destroys projectiles
river urchin
I prefer hand cannon atm
stark anvil
Buddy System is supposed to be like a 2v2 centric perk but even then I don't find it too useful there, I don't recommend it.
glossy bough
hand cannon better
civic juniper
I have a question
stark anvil
Question away.
glossy bough
why does agent smith have sm aura
light ruin
Anyway I’m at 19/20 rifts for Smith but I don’t have enough red gems, so maybe t...
i gotchu
civic juniper
Does anyone know how much Pugilist increases Melee attack
light ruin
after i wash dishes
stark anvil
It doesn't say, for some reason that's the only increase perk that doesn't outright state the details
I don't know if it's like 1 point more or 10% overall more or what
But I feel like I kick total keester with it
languid iris
stark anvil
This is very much a good video yes
languid iris
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stark anvil
Honestly most of the other Standard perks aren't even worth it really
Maybe Clean the Air as parrying reflects projectiles but that's super situational
river urchin
I still need to know if combo 27 works with hand cannon
stark anvil
On all (or most at least) circumstances I say Pugilist for Standard perks
proper mango
As for his Signature Perk, Hand Cannon and Freeze_Protocol are both very good in...
only problem with the freeze one is that the clone move is kinda trash. Even with full charge it goes away quickly and its very easy to dodge the clone. not saying the perk is bad but its hard to pull off unless you do it when the person is right on top of you
proper mango
On all (or most at least) circumstances I say Pugilist for Standard perks
pugilist and snowball effect are my go to for any character
stark anvil
Yeah for sure
proper mango
i lowkey wish they kept a lot of the perks from the beta. some were kinda useless yeah but it made for a lot of variety and builds depending on playstyle
glossy bough
i say just run last stand
no harm in running last stand for the 2nd perk slot
free weakened
and smiths advantage state is good
stark anvil
A ton of Smith's attacks are actually quite similar both on ground and in the air so I don't think Airwalker benefits him too much in regards to Strong perks
I switch between either Speed Force Assist or Last Stand
river urchin
Yeah stay away from airwalker
glossy bough
trust me
proper mango
im not good enough to use airwalker anyway lmfao
glossy bough
give it a couple weeks
and some airwalker agent brown combos
are going to start spreading
languid iris
Honestly most of the other Standard perks aren't even worth it really
Maybe Clea...
because personally my agent smith build is hand cannon, flammable (down special is a quick ignite since its 2 hits and counts as a projectile) air ability refresh after ringout, and pugilist
glossy bough
because personally my agent smith build is hand cannon, flammable (down special ...
you dont really use down special all that much
snowball effect is just generally the better perk option
proper mango
refresh after ringout isn't too great tbh. only if your really really out to the edge of zone but otherwise its easy to come back with almost the entire cast
faint zinc
i say just run last stand
collateral damage is his best 2nd perk and argued best perk for him thats not a gold perk
stark anvil
Also not a meta-related perk but a funny bug in regards to Smith
Equipping the Salt taunt for some reason activates a currently unreleased emote for him
languid iris
refresh after ringout isn't too great tbh. only if your really really out to the...
personally i like it since i dominate edgeguarding
stark anvil
He summons a bunch of bent spoons that dance around him in a 360° radius
stark anvil
And it's freakin' hilarious
rancid jasper
oh yeah the spoon bender one
that's funny
this game man, its silly
like how does that happen
stark anvil
I have no clue
Also Smith now has purchasable skins, which he didn't yesterday
The Shark Hat Smith and the Tooniverse Smith
I'm guessing his Cybernetic skin will be available when his early-access period ends.
glossy bough
He summons a bunch of bent spoons that dance around him in a 360° radius
seen it
rancid jasper
ooooh tooniverse
want to get it but I gotta save my dollars
civic juniper
He summons a bunch of bent spoons that dance around him in a 360° radius
There's some other taunts in the game that summon particle effects, for some reason... I've seen it on Garnets multiple times
stark anvil
Trying to get the Matrix Code Smith will be absolutely hellish given all 30 Rift difficulties must be beaten
But I'm still gonna go for it!
river urchin
I am also gonna try it
glossy bough
commitment
light ruin
Trying to get the Matrix Code Smith will be absolutely hellish given all 30 Rift...
Looney megalodog
civic juniper
We should consider ourselves lucky that they removed the lives system for Looney difficulty
rancid jasper
I'm gonna get all the help I can get from the MVS Discord
hopefully my lack of skill in some areas won't screw my chances too much
stark anvil
I'm one of the very few players who actually committed to Rifts, no taxi-ing or late-FOMO nonsense, I've been on the Rift grind since the start
One of the first players who got him too.
civic juniper
There was a Surfs Up rift that made me livid. It was the Harley one where she shoots lasers
civic juniper
I'm one of the very few players who actually committed to Rifts, no taxi-ing or ...
Me too
frank gorge
fluid hatch
flint grail
