Jason

[tiny cave]

So he did that to speedrun his way to diamond

Playing 8 hours in a row

[round hamlet]

Huh

Does that actually make it easier?

Cuz it feels like it'd be a waste considering you have a chance of winning the 2nd round

[tiny cave]

Ig bc you can save some time

[tiny cave]

Sometimes you get matched with way higher ranks than you

So sometimes it can be worth

And thats what he did

Basically he conceded the players way higher than him

So he doesnt waste time

Basically he tried to speedrun his way to diamond

By conceding the higher ranks

[spare sparrow]

Guys... Uncle Spamuel has just fumbled the Jason PR, and gave Veriflied a W.... how do we get our stock value back up?

[mossy fern]

Jason is a good match up for Morty

Even i won against Uncle Spamuel once

Without losing

With Morty

[lean storm]

like, morty's one of the worst matchups for jason, they didnt even need to 1v1 to proove that fact

[mossy fern]

He is better than Veriflied thats for sure but its Morty at the end of the day

[lean storm]

and verlified hitting diamond 1 with jason was pretty sus tbh

in one day

[tiny cave]

Morty is one of jasons worst matchups

[unique pewter]

yea lol that was a bummer... I like Uncle Spam... watching the video, it kinda just seemed like he wasn't warmed up, like he had moments of focus, but you could tell Veriflied was going for blood from the get go, and I don't know that Uncle Spamuel came at it with the same intensity, and then once he was behind he just couldn't seem to lock in enough to make a comeback... not sure it would go that way again if he was given the chance, but also maybe it would? Hard to tell really.

[tiny cave]

Mortys playstile is literally run away

[vagrant merlin]

Pretty tight window

[vagrant merlin]

Simple Uncle Samuel wasn't running away enough it's hard stuck into his brain to play aggressive

[halcyon badger]

That ain’t count. He was playing morty like he plays Jason

Even tried the same setups jab jab on ledge wait for them to commit a move then down air to spike lol

[trim crest]

the multiversus politics go crazy

[halcyon badger]

We live in a society 🚬

[trim crest]

gona hate verlified untill he can handle lebrons balls tbh

[lilac mica]

Just 2-0ed a Joker as Jason

[fleet sierra]

nice

[spare sparrow]

Yeah but he also lost using morty. This just shows that there are 2 options

1: Veriflied is just better than Spamuel

2: Jason is less skilled than morty as a character.

[livid agate]

try me

[tiny cave]

#clips message

😭

[halcyon badger]

Chat I got sauced by a shaggy

[dry slate]

Shaggy is hard to fight, but at least his rage side special no longer breaks armor unintentially, so Jason's grey health is more useful

[west cloak]

That doesn’t matter because Shaggy rage moves deal more than 20 damage

[dry slate]

Oh yeah

[west cloak]

You might be able to tank like a few multihits of up special and that’s it

[dry slate]

Maybe they should do a damage falloff, where right when the rage kick starts it does the full 25, but as it travels, it'll get a bit weaker.

Idk, might be a bad change

[west cloak]

I mean, the armor break thing does matter in a few matchups like WW and Superman

So not having that makes rage against those characters weaker

Even if rage specials didn’t break Jason rage due to the damage, Jason would still solidly lose the matchup because he gets comboed too hard

[dry slate]

Yea

[west cloak]

Regardless, rage is kinda useless if you run armor killer

Any multihit move just becomes an armor breaker

[dry slate]

God I hate that Jason's grey health counts as armor sometimes

[west cloak]

I just wish he’d get armor every time he gets gray health like the description states

[dry slate]

That's the thing tho. The description doesn't state that he gets armor. It just says he gains no knockback

[west cloak]

But he does

[dry slate]

Yes, he does. It's just not stated

[dire violet]

How would you feel if this were a real skin for Jason #fan-art message

[west cloak]

If you get gray health from a teammate and get hit by a weak move like Rick charged laser, you still take knockback

[dry slate]

Hell yes

[west cloak]

People who want Freddy would be mad

[dry slate]

That's also another unstated thing. It's only his neutral special

[west cloak]

Yeah and that’s the issue

If it were only stated under the description of his neutral special, that would be fine

But it’s stated as a passive ability

And it’s absolutely not

[dire violet]

Ah but then one day we maybe get Freddy and get a Freddy dressed as Jason skin

[dry slate]

I'd be scared to ask that because of the weird latex hockey mask they gave to everyone else

[scenic lagoon]

@spare sparrow Ggs

[spare sparrow]

gg senor

[scenic lagoon]

I'm SonicDonut if you remember

[spare sparrow]

yeah no i remember, you were Beetlejuice J-Son and i was Uber

[halcyon badger]

Never realized how many mixups he can throw you in lol it’s crazy

[dry slate]

Oh yea

[warm reef]

Dw I won before so we’re still at the same spot as before

[dire violet]

Have we lost Spamuel to Morty

[vague belfry]

Beat a Gizmo today with Jason. I have done the impossible

[formal moss]

Rage bait i give it a 1/10

Scum

[livid agate]

😂😂

[warm reef]

#off-topic rate the match up list

[halcyon badger]

Jack is +2?

[west cloak]

How is Jack +2 and Finn +1?

[warm reef]

They aren’t hard at all imo

[west cloak]

Idk man I think Jason still loses to Finn, but all the one-trick death combos Finn mains dropped him

I can see Jason potentially winning against Jack, but not by +2

[random meteor]

what are best perk builds for jason right now?

[trim crest]

jacks got like no good armor breaks to deal with jason tbh its kinda rough

[random meteor]

isnt his grab really good? also i assume you dont consider his side special good beacuse it can be parried, but imo armor break with that range is a really strong attack

[trim crest]

his grab is good yeah but its kinda rough to get against a grounded target and kinda telegraphed,im p sure side special isnt an armor break though it just does over 10 damage so can one shot non charged rage mode

[random meteor]

oh tbf i didn't thought of that, good point, if thats the case i can agree with you

[random meteor]

ye took shorter then i expected but you are right side special doesnt interupt the air grab my bad!

[scenic lagoon]

Armor breaker perk

Works with every character

Multihit just hits through

[trim crest]

i mean yeah than every single characters a bad matchup ig

im talking more base

[scenic lagoon]

Yea but like I think most people are starting to understand how broken armor slayer is (The green one)

ggs @spare sparrow

Your teleports are a bit too predictable, take them down a notch

[scenic lagoon]

Damn the clips channel is sad

I'm getting called horrible at Jason for playing him correctly

[trail flicker]

No he’s only saying he was toxic because you was playing passive

[scenic lagoon]

Oh damn bro, it's almost like that's the character 💀

[west cloak]

Spoiler alert: playing passive is the optimal way to play every fighting game

[trail flicker]

Yea but you didn’t have to call savak out for being toxic

[scenic lagoon]

Yes I did

He was salting and teabagging

Constantly

[trail flicker]

Almost everyone is toxic

[scenic lagoon]

I can call out whoever I want

[west cloak]

Maybe if enough people are called out for being toxic, they’ll eventually stop

Probably not

[trail flicker]

As if that ever changed in comp games

[west cloak]

But like the MVS community is among the most toxic rn

[trail flicker]

Salt emote was literally created for toxicity nobody can change my mind 😭

[west cloak]

I mean yeah it was

Mistake giving it to us for free ngl

[trail flicker]

Let the f2P players with no gleaming be toxic too 😔

[west cloak]

Just play the game to get free gleamium

Emotes are only like 50 anyway

[trail flicker]

They should add more toxic emotes. I’m sick of salt

Too overused

[west cloak]

Use crying Shaggy

[trail flicker]

I think poop or trashcan would be good

[trail flicker]

Ohh I hate that one

I will buy

[trim crest]

i got it for a 10% discount 😃 !!!!

[devout burrow]

well rounded snowball effect airwalker pugilist

[pale apex]

Anyone got good true combos I should use I just picked him up

[tiny cave]

Jab jab bed up air and then wait for the to dodge and air up special

[halcyon badger]

On big characters like Jason or Supe you can jab jab down tilt jab jab down tilt jab up special

[halcyon badger]

Sadly that’s the state of the game

Game starts , person automatically runs to the edge of the stage lol

[tiny cave]

True

[scenic lagoon]

Idk how to fight IG anymore

Ngl

[tiny cave]

Every time i play people always play passive and run away

And if i play agressive i end up getting cooked

[halcyon badger]

I hate fighting ppl like that

[tiny cave]

True

[halcyon badger]

The match state won’t change unless you make a move

And Jason so damn slow u get whiff punished

[knotty sage]

it hurts more to lose to them

[tiny cave]

I just salt them so they get agressive

Works sometimes

[halcyon badger]

that’s why this game needs a shield button

I don’t get what they were thinking. A game where char have diff speeds but no shield? Brawhalla can get away with it cause every character moves the same

[west cloak]

Rivals 1 doesn’t have shields and that game is fine

[fickle ledge]

Ehhh kinda.
I love me some Rivals 1.

[lean storm]

dont worry, it aint your fault jason has so many bad matchups

[scenic lagoon]

Nah it's supposed to be a good MU or even

[lean storm]

but

jason's hitbox, and igs giant hurtbox

[dry slate]

If you know what you're doing and are lucky enough, you can decimate Iron Giant at 0%

[lean storm]

wow im glad to hear that

[dry slate]

Airwalker + Bag right above Iron Giant's head. Slam once. Wait a bit. Swing right when the cooldown ends, knocking him up. Dodge boost up air to kill him at like 15-20%

[tiny cave]

Grab him

If he flies at you grab him

Air side special

The car spin can sometimes be counterable with grab but you have to grab from a bit far

You can but its not easy

You have to anticipate

A little bit

In few words

Spam grab

Every time he aproaches you grab him

[tiny cave]

Jason grab can make some of ig attacks completely useless

[trim crest]

yeah ig doesnt have a good armor break

[halcyon badger]

They got wavedashing. Not some janky dodge mechanic

And I say janky because in order to do combos you have to dodge cancel into attack. That’s fair. But then that means you can dodge cancel ANY move meaning whiff punishing and decision making gets thrown out the window. I can just throw a free move out and not worry about the consequences since I can dodge cancel

[dry slate]

Complaining about a movement tech that rewards higher level play is crazy

[feral cargo]

Kinda the nature of people complaining about fighting games most times. Lots of people that don't know what they're talking about complaining they got rolled

[halcyon badger]

Oh brother get off y’all ego. I’m saying it can be refined a bit

[dry slate]

😐

[dry slate]

Ok, how so?

[halcyon badger]

I’d say add more end stun on certain moves but PFG prob wants a faster game so they won’t do that

[dry slate]

End stun?

[halcyon badger]

End lag* mb

[flint tide]

You can’t dodge cancel on whiff

You can dodge after the whiff frames have completed

If you aren’t punishing someone during the time they’re whiffing it varies from either the move has low recovery and isn’t meant to be consistently punished in the first place

Or you’re just bad

(Or the move is broken and has way too little recovery for the type of move it is anyway)

[halcyon badger]

Joker sadly

[flint tide]

Yep

I agree

There should be more recovery on highly rewarding moves

Its why arya dtilt was such a huge issue for a long time

I guess they’re getting better

At balancing

It’s slow though

[west cloak]

That’s not true for all moves, but it is unfortunately true for a lot of them. Personally, I don’t think any moves should be cancellable on whiff and should instead only be cancellable on hit similar to the system Rivals has

[round hamlet]

Why is Jason chat dead now

rip

[dry slate]

Trust me, this is the most active character channel besides beetlejuice

[vague belfry]

It's Jason and Garnet and then all the other channels are basically dead

[round hamlet]

Average multiversus experience

[radiant nexus]

I’m scared at how quickly garnet is catching up

[timber cedar]

jokers been active because people keep arguing in there

[round hamlet]

That's what happens to characters people consider the worst that gets people interested

[knotty sage]

yeah bad characters have more committed players

top tiers just have a bunch of people wanting easy wins

[radiant nexus]

Plant in ultimate is the true form of this statement

[feral cargo]

So there's a fan made character wishlist on twitter for this game

[rugged cradle]

Since iron giant channel is slow, which you consider the best iron giant signature perk?

[tiny cave]

Wrong channel

[rugged cradle]

You would be surprise of people of another channels come to this one since is most active than others.

[valid glen]

FUN: up to #169 in the Jason 2v2 rankings
LESS FUN: its almost entirely through solo queueing 🥲

i want to hit masters with him so bad

[severe barn]

need a teammate for a few rounds?

give me like 5 min and I'm down

sent!

[feral cargo]

Jason mains we up

I feel like a double agent sometimes. I'm here like Jason Mains we up. Then go over to the t&j chat and talk about how much I like being t&j

Why are we the best chat though is the question.

[severe barn]

Jason is definitely one of the MVPs in 2s rn

[vagrant merlin]

Jason has a 0td
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/feL5wRQ9jw

[tiny cave]

Damn

Thats broken af

[dry slate]

That can be weight dependent, di dependent, and hurtbox dependent.

[vagrant merlin]

Kind of works but there's also this #clips message

[vagrant merlin]

Di is not really a problem it's more of knowing where to aim your knife to hit the second one

[dry slate]

With thinner characters, they can DI out of the jab jab into up attack unless you're directly in their face

[halcyon badger]

What happened to those combos with rage. Jab 1 IAD down attack , etc etc

Or were those never real

[tiny cave]

They nerfed jason once

And they nerfed his jab 1

[halcyon badger]

Oh yea

Sucks cause they looked saucy

[valid glen]

Just broke top 125 in the 2v2 rankings

It's a torturous frustrating eternal uphill climb and things could be 10x easier if I just cheesed Superman or smth but

Big guy funny and axe go whoosh

[formal moss]

Scum

[formal moss]

Jason is cheese

[round hamlet]

What character isn't cheese then

[lean storm]

#clips message

[round hamlet]

I'm tired of all this Jason slander I thought he sucked

[dry slate]

He's a noob stomper. All the ones complaining are ones who are noobs or use crutch high tiers. Literally in clips, they're complaining about Jab1 connecting just a few inches away from Bugs when we all know Bugs' up air reaches farther

[round hamlet]

Lol yeah I was arguing with a samurai jack player that was complaining saying 3 jab combos killed you and he's top 21k samurai jack or something
Bro is stuck in bronze

[dry slate]

Lmao

[lean storm]

hello? he aint even a jack player, he uses that username as a meme, hes actually a harley main

[round hamlet]

That's even worse the Harley Jason matchup is one of his worst lmao

[dry slate]

Like that makes him any better

[lean storm]

well yeh atleast now yk he aint stuck in bronze

he was top 50 harley i believe

[wide shale]

jason fares pretty well against harley now that he has his armor grab now imo

[dry slate]

Being one of the tops in this game isn't saying much tbh. Over half the grandmasters/masters are just people who spam and pray. There are a few that are actually skilled enough to be there, but others just choose to projectile spam and use their crutch top tiers

Especially Arya players

[round hamlet]

I barely even use jab jab teleport I personally prefer jab jab stomp

[unique pewter]

I think the thing is says more than most is that they have a lot of time to dedicate to it… but for sure there are people who deserve it, I occasionally get my face totally melted off by somebody and I can’t even get mad when they’re that good

[round hamlet]

Also I swear I'm the only person who uses down air special it's super good

[dry slate]

^

[wide shale]

down air special loses to a ton of stuff on the first hit is the main problem

[round hamlet]

It counters steven nair

[unique pewter]

If you have a ton of room it’s good for closing distance in a group fight… like if you can space it so the second hit gets em with the very end of the animation… then you’re sending everyone flying

I don’t use it much tho

[wide shale]

its a great move, but i just dont use it to challenge other attacks usually

[halcyon badger]

I like using it as a read to kill confirm or sometimes mixup my landing

[lean storm]

jason 0 to death is true

tried it in training mode against a jack bot on hard difficulty, both in recovery and dodge mode

unfortunately its 118 mbs cause i filmed it with geforce experience

if anyone has any objections : you can add me and we can try it together in training mode

id : Cl0udyJay

[lean storm]

tested on jack and batman

[round hamlet]

Scum

[dry slate]

Hard difficulty?

[tiny cave]

i think its not true on online matches

i hitted a samurai jack at 70 damage and didnt kill him

in that case would be map dependant

but they can still DI away

[vagrant merlin]

It's everything dependent.

[tiny cave]

yeah

its not true

[lean storm]

yup

[lean storm]

if you send them upwards and not a bit diagonally they cant di out of it

[devout burrow]

how is it performed

[lean storm]

jab+jab+ground down+jab+jab+ground up+jump+ up air+ up special

[devout burrow]

uair upb is true?

[lean storm]

doesnt work on smaller characters

[devout burrow]

that sounds a liiittle bit like cap but I believe it

[lean storm]

tested on hard difficulty bots with dodge and recovery mode

[devout burrow]

well

bots aren't a good way to test

did it visibly leave hitstun at all

[lean storm]

we could test it together if you want

[devout burrow]

I can in like 5 minutes I'm walking home

[lean storm]

aight, dm whenever youre ready

[round hamlet]

She Friday on my 13th till I Voorhees

[lean storm]

she vorhees on my jason till i ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma

[devout burrow]

alright I'm here

[lean storm]

Cl0udyJay

[devout burrow]

erm what the fish

not online

[lean storm]

pick jack

set the map to teen titans

oh sorry

my bad

[devout burrow]

did you just crash

[lean storm]

invite again

[lean storm]

misclicked

lets do more stocks

[devout burrow]

DI up kills the loop on a bunch of characters

it should work on garney

[lean storm]

increase the stocks

[devout burrow]

so it just doesn't work

you just don't have the frame advantage

[lean storm]

with proper di yes

guess the training mode is cheeks then lol

[devout burrow]

it is

it's really bad

[lean storm]

pick batsy

[devout burrow]

lmao

it's character specific

[lean storm]

wow the hitboxes

just wow

[devout burrow]

it's a combination of they need to be large and kinda heavy

like reindog or lebron or ba or superman

or jason

I think it works on IG

[lean storm]

now that we're here wanna 1v1?

[devout burrow]

I cant

I can

[lean storm]

you can or you cant?

[devout burrow]

I can

[lean storm]

is that a true combo or am i tripping

[devout burrow]

what is

jab iad dair is true

[lean storm]

that thing you just did there

[devout burrow]

idk

probably not

[lean storm]

oomf

that was close

[devout burrow]

yea

[lean storm]

that hitbox on nair is crazy

[devout burrow]

yea

ba is just simon says in a video game

[lean storm]

ba on heat god damn😭

how did that kill at 100

[devout burrow]

dexter's moment

[spare sparrow]

I'm now officially master 1

so now im skilled....

[tiny cave]

#clips message

[frosty lynx]

@storm parrot 🐴

[dry slate]

Holy crap Fredbear playing MultiVersus. Do you think he uses Jake and spams bite?

[tiny cave]

LOL

[tiny cave]

Do you guys know any neutrail air combos?

I mean combos that involve neutral air

[dry slate]

All I know (or seen) is neutral air, jab, jab, up attack, up air

[storm parrot]

👋

[halcyon badger]

True ones?

If not then jab jab (read the dodge if they do) nair then etc

[tiny cave]

Can be true or readed

[halcyon badger]

Air neutral grab can also be chained into nair if you dodge cancel into it

[halcyon badger]

That one is good for reads then, especially if they dodge in since it’s active frames is pretty long

I’m not sure if nair can be hit
after air down special (1)

[tiny cave]

I think so

[round hamlet]

Jason might be cooked ngl, I don't feel like playing this character anymore 😔

[dry slate]

Wait until season 3 patch notes. We'll get buffs 👍 (we'll probably get nerfed for some reason)

[round hamlet]

I can't decide between if I wanna play ppg or Jason though
I think I love the ppg more
😢

[dry slate]

Why not both?

[dry slate]

How do you feel about my concept Jason patch notes for Season 3?

---

Jason Voorhees:

+= Buff
-= Nerf
~= Change
*= Bug Fix

General:
~Jason's hurtbox resized to accurately portray his in-game model
~Jason's passive will now apply to all instances of grey health instead of just his Grounded Neutral Special's grey health
*Fixed an issue where Jason would dodge the opposite of the direction held directly after doing a grounded up attack

Grounded Side Attack
~Reverted Jab 1 nerf

Grounded Down Attack
+Knockback increased
~Hitbox activates 2 frames earlier

Grounded Up Attack
*Fixed opponents falling out of the attack before being hit with the final hitbox
*Fixed an issue where character knockback would suddenly be cancelled when fully charged near a ledge

Grounded Neutral Special (Roar Variation)
~Knockback and damage scales depending on the charge of rage
+General knockback increased

Aerial Neutral Special
+Armor is active for 2 additional frames

Grounded Down Special
+Armor Added
*Whiff frames can now be cancellable just like any other move

"Ressurectionist" Perk
*Fixed an issue where Ressurectionist would activate with the pre-patch blast zones
*Fixed an issue where Jason would only have to touch the blast zone to activate Ressurectionist. Jason will now have to be fully in the blastzone to activate
+Jason will reappear with full rage buff
+Ressurectionist will have an additional 2 more seconds when activated
+In a 2v2 setting, Jason and his teammate will both be able to activate Ressurectionist once when each of their 1st knockouts (When Jason gets knocked out and uses Ressurectionist, his teammate will also be able to be knocked out and use Ressurectionist. Only applies to their first stock)
+Jason's teammate will respawn with 10 grey health

[halcyon badger]

Retired Jason main 😭

[round hamlet]

These are great but I think the resurrectionist one is a little overturned
I agree with everything else though. Sadly they probably won't do this lol

[dry slate]

What should I change about Ressurectionist?

[round hamlet]

Idk
It's just a weird perk in general
Maybe make it so your teammate doesn't get the grey health but actually reading through it now it seems fine tbh
Would definitely make it actually usable

[halcyon badger]

Sounds strong in a 2v2 setting ppl would definitely cry about that

[spare sparrow]

Nair into upair

[dry slate]

Yeah, but people already cry about how Jason is rn

Instead of learning the matchup against jason and sometimes just outright refusing to use their armor breaking moves, people will complain and demand the mid tier to be nerfed

[round hamlet]

Aight how do I fight superman side air special it's literally impossible
Someone said I should use grounded up special but he just hits me either way

[dry slate]

The best thing you can do is go for his legs. Anything above the waist and he grabs you. Try to get over him or squeeze under him as best you can before retaliating

I swear, the only good thing about fighting Superman is that he's voiced by George Newbern

[frosty lynx]

naw he's a solid jason player

[spare sparrow]

dodge through it.. they may continue the move despite your dodge meaning that it kinda cant hit you..

[dry slate]

I guess that makes sense. I mean, why would Fredbear play a character that does something he also did back in '83?

[wide shale]

what's a fredbear

[dry slate]

Freddy Fazbear but yellow

[round hamlet]

Ok but what if I'm out of dodges

I guess burnout is bad so

[spare sparrow]

you wanna try go around it..

[round hamlet]

Would you hate me if I said the character I have the most trouble with is jake

I literally cannot seem to win against him no matter what I do

That side air is absolutely vile

I try going around it
He just angles it
I dodge it
I still get hit
What am I supposed to even do

[dry slate]

Nah, Jake's range can easily destroy Jason in the right hands

[round hamlet]

Like I don't know what to do against him legitimately

Also rage is so useless man

The fact I can fight against diamond v a tier away from it is hilarious

I'm so tired of this game

[halcyon badger]

Dodge thru and hit him with the bed, it catches his legs

[round hamlet]

Fighting against a batman that's 100 times better than me and doesn't take showers while I'm completely helpless is definitely super fun

I was getting better and better at the game but I think I hit a wall now

Idk what I'm even doing wrong in half of these matches

[halcyon badger]

Should take a break bro

[wide shale]

cant you grab jakes fist with the air grab

[halcyon badger]

Tilt can mess up ur gameplay

[round hamlet]

Doesn't work for me

I was doing so well against this batman and he hits me with ONE up air, I dodge the wrong way and I'm dead

For one mistake

ONE

Idec anymore

[tiny cave]

I would want to see roar buffs

And make it have a wave

Like WW down attack

But without charging

[round hamlet]

Jason makes you feel incredibly good sometimes but then proceeds to make you feel like trash right after

[round hamlet]

What am I supposed to do against samurai jack he hits me with one jab and I can't get back on stage

[spare sparrow]

I actually don't even know how to play against samurai jack

[round hamlet]

These are Jason's worst matchups btw:
Marvin, Bugs bunny, tom and Jerry, black Adam, samurai jack, batman and Morty

At least from my experience

Not like he has any favorable matchup anyway

[vague belfry]

Yeah the vast majority of his matchups are pretty even imo, he just has some that are close to unwinnable provided the opponent isn't a bot

[round hamlet]

Put Finn and Harley there too while you're at it

[vagrant merlin]

Normally combos into Sair and up special.

[spare sparrow]

Just personal preference but I rarely use nair cuz i use air down special instead

in every situation

[vagrant merlin]

Slower but I can understand sometimes.

[valid glen]

Devs making harley: what if there was a character who could hit in every direction while moving and dodging and with weird attacks that have advantage hit boxes and never needed to cool down

Devs making jason: what if there was a character who sucked?

[dire violet]

Even fake patch notes aren't fixing Jason's dodge bug

[dry slate]

Forgot about that honestly

There, I added it

[dire violet]

Ayy now it's a good patch 😎

[spare sparrow]

whats the dodge bug?

[dry slate]

You dodge one way, but the game dodges the other way

[spare sparrow]

Im top 8 now nice...

[halcyon badger]

Bruh that’s a bug????

I always thought that was my buffer acting up

That’s annoying

[dry slate]

Go into training mode, do a grounded up attack, then dodge the way you were facing AWAY from. You'll dodge the way you were facing instead

[halcyon badger]

I believe you without even trying

[dry slate]

Not only does it go in the opposite direction you want, but it also dodges a much shorter distance

[halcyon badger]

There’s so many times where I dodged away but it dodged in but I gaslit myself into thinking I must’ve buffered the direction too early

[tiny cave]

GUYS

WE WINNING

THIS FRIDAY THE 13TH

IN CRYSTAL LAKE

[round hamlet]

Where did you see that

[tiny cave]

This friday is friday the 13th

[round hamlet]

They would've announced it already if it was coming probably

[tiny cave]

Also jason appeared in the new trailer

[tiny cave]

Nah

They wanna make it a surprise

Actually

Doesnt the season start at friday?

And the PPG gameplay trailer is one day before

Crystal lake is definitely coming in

[round hamlet]

No

[tiny cave]

Still

[valid glen]

I did it..... masters rank and #88 jason in 2v2s.....

Swing that axe bros, don't let ur dreams be dreams

[vagrant merlin]

Nice, do you mind if I ask how many wins it took?

[valid glen]

i think around 500? I'm at 2226 KOs and a 56% win rate

just passed 1k wins on the character last night and i think i was around 450-500 when i started the rank grind

it's also been all solo queueing

[lyric sky]

I'm trying Jason out and why does every single enemy move break my armor

[vagrant merlin]

Nice

[vagrant merlin]

Cuz why not

[dry slate]

fight black adam. man becomes an audience doing a round of applause everytime you pop rage

[lyric sky]

It's funny how every single character I pick up it's the same characters that are the most annoying to fight against

Arya WW Joker SJ Black Adam

Minus SJ for Reindog because I poop all over him

[round hamlet]

Because the game hates you

And by you I mean Jason

[halcyon badger]

Are you charging it all the way?

[lilac mica]

How the heck do you beat Taz?

[vagrant merlin]

Armor grab

[lilac mica]

He eats right through it

[craggy lagoon]

rage and pray your axe slam kills taz

[tacit pivot]

WHOS READY FOR FRIDAY THE 13TH THIS WEEK???

[spare sparrow]

Me...

I made the '13th' reaction in preparation for people

[valid glen]

Beat this guy and Daniel Ross in a ranked match yesterday, where's my article 🤔

https://multiversus.com/en/news/ambassador-showcase-miketavish

[formal spoke]

Friday 13th tmr yall

Yk what that means

[formal spoke]

✋🙂‍↔️

[mossy fern]

And side special knockback reduced a Lil bit

So it kills at 80 instead of 60

[dry slate]

No? That's a blastzone issue, not a Jason issue

[dark sapphire]

Sweet mercy I’m scared to fight those girls

[dry slate]

Scared to fight, excited to fight with

[lapis meteor]

Same

They look very fun to use

BUT

[dry slate]

#memes message

[mossy fern]

Joker killing at 0 is a blastzone issue

[dry slate]

That's a bit of both Joker and Blast Zones (especially on Townsville)

[mossy fern]

Morty killing at 30 with a granade is a blastzone issue

[dry slate]

You're gonna complain about the character you main?

[mossy fern]

Im just saying that ur logic doesnt make sense

Joker killing at 0 is insane

[dry slate]

So Jason, a heavy that's supposed to hit hard, kills someone at 60 at the ledge is a problem?

[mossy fern]

Morty granade killing at 30 doesnt make snese

[dry slate]

Repeating yourself isn't gonna help

Nice spelling btw

[lapis meteor]

grenade is a proyectile that can be enhanced in múltiple ways, both by size, damage, and can have a lingering hitbox if hit, 2 grenades can be out at once removing options, Along with haha, DIRT

Into fire

Fire is by far the best up air in the game btw

[dry slate]

I'd say top three at least. Bugs and Joker up air are also really good

[lapis meteor]

Those mostly benefit by hitbox and ladder

[mossy fern]

Lil bro i just wake up from q hospital surgery

[idle wolf]

Nobody good at the game thinks Jason needs to be nerfed

[lapis meteor]

Fire

Huge hitbox
Fast start up
Little endlag
Combos into itself
Kills without ladder
Kills with ladder
Inflicts fire debuff
Does good damage
Amazing disjoint

[mossy fern]

after general anesthesia

[lapis meteor]

Like

Huge list

[dry slate]

Ok, so how was I supposed to know beforehand?

[mossy fern]

I fear it is

[dry slate]

You fear the way that it's good the way it is. Got it.

[mossy fern]

How about not making fun abt it in the first place

[mossy fern]

Plus killing someone at 80 still good

Its not like its killing Jason as a character

[lapis meteor]

You saying like if jab jab teleport was a problem, knowing that jason's jab its one of the worst in the game

If not the worst

[mossy fern]

Just saying the knockback needs a small tone down

Nothing crazy

He can still get buffs

I would not care

[lapis meteor]

That jab is as heavy as some Charged attacks

Slow*

Not so generous hitbox

May as well have negative disjoint

[mossy fern]

They can buff that

But make side special kill at 80 instead of 60

Make some of his stuff faster

Like

The harley match up feels impossible as Jason

Cuz she is just faster

At everything

U cant trade at all

[dry slate]

Let me make it clear here

With the universal Jab low priority nerf and Jason having the slowest Jab in the game (yes, slower than The Iron Giant), you still think the Jab Jab Teleport combo is free and should be nerfed

Hell, sometimes if your opponents hurtbox decides to be wonky, Teleport won't even connect, especially against thin characters like Shaggy, Arya, and Morty

[halcyon badger]

After being put in a combo montage we deserve that jab kill confirm

[lapis meteor]

Got muted by saying f word

As i was saying

Since its a 2 hit, both being slow if you whiff

YOU CAN ACTUALLY HIT JASON BETWEEN JAB1 AND JAB 2

[halcyon badger]

When I fight Harley’s I try to pick off the player and not the character. Like Harley’s love contesting , if you have them in air they’ll most likely shoot a projectile down so you can up air them

Also parry her hammer they throw that move out from so far it’s easily telegraphed

[mossy fern]

Yes!

[lapis meteor]

From my experience

Teleport only kinda kills at the ledge in that % in stages like dexter's lab against light weights?

Realisticly speaking

Sometimes it doesnt kill until 100

And thats

At the ledge

[dry slate]

Get out

[mossy fern]

Uh

Its just my opinion

Chill

I like to play Jason

But i think his side special is too strong

[dry slate]

His side special is fine

[west cloak]

Isn’t that Jason’s whole gimmick tho?

He kills early

[dry slate]

Exactly

[dry slate]

He's slow, but kills early. Take away the kill power and all he is, is slow

[trim crest]

yeah jason litteraly cant do anything other than kill early bro has nothing else leave him alone

[formal dirge]

morty moment

[valid glen]

That's not fair. He's also big as hell

[tulip plaza]

Jasons, I have finally got myself into diamond in 2s

[vagrant merlin]

In what way?

[mossy fern]

Killing at 60

Make it kill at 80 and its fine

[tiny cave]

It kills at 80

[mossy fern]

And at 60

[tulip plaza]

I mean I think its fine as is
it doesn't kill at 60 from the center of the stage so its not crazy or anything

[dry slate]

"That's not fair!" Mfs when I show them Jason having absolutely no control to being juggled with projectile spam and assassian characters

[mossy fern]

Womp womp

Buff

[mossy fern]

It is

Not a big deal nerfing it

But buff his other stuff

[dry slate]

Why is it always a Morty main complaining about Jason kill power? Your character demolishes ours, why complain?

[mossy fern]

I didnt play Morty for 3 weeks

I am playing Beetlejuice

[dry slate]

It's not crazy

[mossy fern]

At 60 it is

Not at 80

Its not like Jason cant build up dmg

[dry slate]

It doesn't kill at 60 unless you're on the ledge as a light character and bad di. Holding up will save you more than you know.

[mossy fern]

Still

[dry slate]

Still what?

[mossy fern]

Nerf

[dry slate]

Get out

You're obviously not gonna listen to what we say and always think what you say is correct

[mossy fern]

Wow im so scared 🥶

[dry slate]

Play only Jason for a month and come back. See if your mindset changes

[mossy fern]

He is my second main

[dry slate]

If he really was, you wouldn't be complaining

You would be understanding

[mossy fern]

Sorry for bring self aware

Being*

Dont get me wrong i still want He buffed

Just a lil tone down on side special

[dry slate]

I'm not dealing with his crap anymore. I have him blocked.

[mossy fern]

Bro

No way

😂

Blud is that mad over his main

Nooo my main is perfect

Are u sure ur old enough to use discord??

[dry slate]

Lol 6 blocked messages

[tiny cave]

It doesnt kill at 60

At all

Its always 80 close to the ledge

And also make maps bigger

Not a jason issue

[mossy fern]

I feel like its pretty unfair for some light characters

[mossy fern]

And ur reading it all arent u 😅

[tiny cave]

.

[mossy fern]

U guys acting like i want Jason guted

[mossy fern]

I want him buffed on a lot of ways

But i feel like if he gets too buffed

[tiny cave]

Side special is good

Side special kills at 80

[mossy fern]

It might be a problem

[tiny cave]

And also

Its a map issue

If you dont believe me

#clips message

Maps should be way bigger

[dry slate]

That's post nerf finn too, right?

[tiny cave]

Yeah

It is

[dry slate]

Damn

[mossy fern]

I did the testing rn

Jason kills normal characters at 70

At the ledge

[tiny cave]

.

[knotty sage]

who did you test it on? Shaggy?

[mossy fern]

Ok but i am Just sahing

Saying*

[mossy fern]

Ye

[knotty sage]

which map

[tiny cave]

Then they should buff maps

Not jason

[mossy fern]

Knockback would be easier

[mossy fern]

The Steven universe one

[tiny cave]

Maps should be way bigger and knockback be the same

[knotty sage]

isnt that the smallest map in the game

[tiny cave]

Except for beetlejuice

And marvin

[mossy fern]

No it isnt

Its avarage

Size

The smallest is Dexter on horizontal blastzone

[tiny cave]

All maps should be the same size

Thats just stupid

What is the biggest map in the game?

[mossy fern]

Finns house 2v2 i think

[tiny cave]

All maps should be that size

Even the 1v1s

Maps are way too small

[vagrant merlin]

You're wasting your time when you could be doing other things

[mossy fern]

I was at the hospital bed what else could i do

Sports or smth 😭

[vagrant merlin]

Was?

[mossy fern]

Yeah i left

Now i am back home

[vagrant merlin]

Oh damn. You could have watched some YouTube or something.

[mossy fern]

Chill we dont have to be rude bcs we got different takes on Multiversus

Its a game after all

[vagrant merlin]

In case you're wondering I'm not mad. In fact I'm very hard to displease.

What would I do with myself if I got mad over what someone said?

[mossy fern]

Block me like the other guy

They acting like i hate Jason or smth i love him ):

[vagrant merlin]

That's cuz you're dissing on one of his best combos.

[mossy fern]

Give him more combos make down attack into up special true for example

[vagrant merlin]

If you want to diss on anything diss on this #clips message

[mossy fern]

Nah thats insane

[vagrant merlin]

True it may be annoying to get hit by teleport. But teleport by itself is not a great move. If you try to use it to recover it's very reactable.

[mossy fern]

I think that to make him a healthier character, making it better for recovery and reduce the knockback so it doesnt kill as early but still kills early could work

[vagrant merlin]

It kills at 80 at edge. Early I saw you talking about how it kill at 60 that's only possible with bad di. And personally I've never pulled it off.

Anyways enough about that.

[mossy fern]

Kills at 70

60 only with light characters

Sorry for the confusion its that i mostly play light chars

[vagrant merlin]

I'll check it out on training mode.

[halcyon badger]

I think you should be warranting all that nerf talk to them fixing the blast zone kill radius

[icy raptor]

if they nerf jason again imma lose my s it

[dark sapphire]

Here you go 🪑
Never lose ur sit again o7

[vague belfry]

He probably will just get minor fixes honestly

[lapis meteor]

THATS A DOWNSIDE

[minor radish]

TODAY.

[tiny cave]

KI KI KI KI MA MA MA MA MA

[dry slate]

they should make jason op just for today/j

[spare sparrow]

no

serious

they should make him do 400% damage

give every map fog if hes there

he can see through it

[dry slate]

Today is Jason's day. Let him go off

[tacit pivot]

ITS OUR DAY

ITS OUR DAY DAY DAY DAY!!!!!

[mossy fern]

Only playing Jason today

[feral cargo]

I had a Joker for breakfast yesterday

[round hamlet]

Mother is proud of you

[fickle ledge]

😡🛏️ my beloved

[trim crest]

wth that emojis called rage

[valid glen]

Got my first consistent bugs duo and I never realized how much damage Jason could do when that much space is covered for him

[unique pewter]

I love him in 2s, if your partner can just help you have some breathing room you can do work

[tiny cave]

ITS A REFERENCE

WHERES MY CRYSTAL LAKE

🪓

[frozen oracle]

Happy Friday the 13th

[mossy fern]

Buff Jason

[valid glen]

Tried to push my luck solo queueing yesterday and fell from #58 masters v to diamond ii, finally clawed my way back up to #60 I'm not touching ranked for the rest of the season 😭

Buff jason but also buff points in masters. +8 for wins and -20 for losses is unhinged

[arctic palm]

Happy Friday the 13th fellow Jason Mains!

[feral cargo]

Thank you mother.

[fickle ledge]

This goes for everyone.
Don't risk it homies
Don't get greedy. 🙏

[wide shale]

i jasoned some people for this glorious day

[round hamlet]

I'm gonna play Jason and spam California girls every time I beat someone

[vague belfry]

Went from losing to an armor and grab spamming superman to 3 stocking a marvin and making him rage quit the following game

This character is the definition of unfeltered aggression

[round hamlet]

How do I fight taz

I literally can't

This has to be one of his worst matchups

Taz straight up just doesn't let you breathe

[halcyon badger]

https://x.com/onyxgarg/status/1834712981269365128?s=46

[dry slate]

Play Jasom exclusively for a month. You'll learn to understand

Oh for god's sake, Veriflied conceded every match he lost and was spoonfed bad players because of it

The Jason ditto is basically just who can land the hit first

You really think he swapped mains or just said he did that for views?

[tiny cave]

jason has easily the worst ditto

its just who hits first

[dry slate]

Exactly what I said

Yall just love to come into the Jason and complain about our combo food of a character

How would you know?

You wanna know how many matchups can just destroy jason without even trying?

[lapis meteor]

Thats like 90% of the jason population

Slowest jab in the game

There are charged attacks faster than his jab

Does bro know?

Check frames data

[dry slate]

Check frame data if you're so smart, ya Veriflied dickrider

LMAO no it isn't

His hand hurtbox covers the majority of his weapon

Lmao ok, you get into diamond as Jason

See how that goes

Because you genuinely are complainimg about something when you truly don't know what you're talking about

Blocked his dumbass

[lapis meteor]

Shorter than morty's

His hand hitbox is freaking huge that it even extends inside the machete

Less whiff lag

[dry slate]

Why does every Morty player try to come in here and say "uugggghhhh you just downplay your character just get good" while spamming mudwall and grenade thinking that takes skill?

[lapis meteor]

Someone share with this man jasons hurtboxes

[dry slate]

If they didn't change how the files are accessed I would

[lapis meteor]

But yep

Jasons hurtboxes aint great

'Haha, am gonna hit the air'

A random jason player middle finger:

[dry slate]

I'll give ONE thing. Jason and Morty both have the same start-up frames on Jab

[dry slate]

Is he still trying to talk to me?

[lapis meteor]

thats definetly not a upside since stepping foward while having a truck hitbox ,while also having a huge hand hurtbox aint great?

and mroty's can be canceled earlier?

i didnt said that

so its jason's?

in fact,jason's whole body steps foward when doing his jab?

and thats before the hitbox is active

range that comes out after your body becomes a "hit me" sign

[halcyon badger]

One played morty like a bruiser and the other like a zoner

[knotty sage]

steven universe:
beetlejuice:

its really stubby and has really bad whiff

compared to other characters it is

[tiny cave]

Max prestige morty downplayer

We all know the worst jab is ricks jab

What jason needs is a distance weapon

Thats it

Or fix his hitboxes

And hurtboxes

[knotty sage]

harpoon that pulls enemies into you

[dry slate]

Either an axe throw or harpoon gun would be amazing

[tiny cave]

Jason has the worst approach in the game

Give him a distance weapon

And nerf his damage

Or knockback

Thats it

Also being combo food

Im not even sugesting to just leave him like that

If you give him more approach then nerf his damage

[round hamlet]

Jason has the worst recovery in the whole game be serious

It doesn't kill at 65

Not even on ledge

No

[tiny cave]

80

[knotty sage]

what about other maps like sky arena or Trophy's edge?

[halcyon badger]

You’re saying this but then saying to nerf his damage lmao

[spare sparrow]

Veriflied Stan in chat?

Suck out….

[halcyon badger]

A huge d rider

Using those vids as “proof”

[spare sparrow]

Let’s nerf grenade KB and give up air more repeat lockout and end lag, shall we?

[halcyon badger]

Those clips didn’t have any DI

and those are light characters that can combo jason nonstop

[spare sparrow]

Morty’s grenades have omni directional knock back which is crazy

I’ve never felt I had an unfair advantage playing Jason against any pro…

I don’t…

They downplay him because he is skilled, more or less.

I agree with you that he needs a teleport damage nerf.. but he definitely needs buffs to compensate

Nah truly he kills heavy at 90 if ur literally eating the ledge, and he kills light at 70 same case

But that goes for a lot of jabs

Aryas jab near ledge kills at 70

Kills me (Jason)

[lapis meteor]

we dont even want significant buffs to jason, all we are asking if for hurtboxes fixing and at the very minimun, making roar and bag Actual moves that most of the time are something bad to do, than good

[spare sparrow]

Neutral ark? Bruh no…

3 things need a buff… Air down special, down special and neutral special (rage release)

I feel the rest of his kit is perfect although hitbox adjustments would be lovely

The sweep?

Or the grounded?

bro…

Sweep combos into up air, jabs, up special etc…

It basically converts you into a hitbox as well

Well, I’m skilled so I use it…

Lol…

Yeah it’s like that up to master v

But anyone in m1 is at least mixing in other stuff

No.

It’s better..

How

It’s only issue is sliding attacks or short chats

It can basically anti air

Wanna 1v1 @dusty lodge

Aw shucks

[restive crypt]

Anyone else think it'd be funny if Jason had alts based on the people he possessed in Jason Goes to Hell?

If they can't get the rights to their likeness, he can just still wear the mask over their face. Being soft references.

[unique pewter]

lol I always thought the doctor with the blood spattered coat was actually really creepy in that movie

The whole finale of that movie feels like an Evil Dead film, or like an off-brand Wishmaster movie

I love it lol

[restive crypt]

Same. Lol

[tiny cave]

Why half mortys set has weakened

[spare sparrow]

Does it?

Only dirt has it??

[trail flicker]

Is it me or should Jason get a cooldown on jab?

[spare sparrow]

@trail flicker Just you

[trail flicker]

Jab jab teleport is too strong

[spare sparrow]

Cool-down on jab is the dumbest way to balance that

[trail flicker]

10 seconds cooldown on jab would be nice bro

Too much jab fishing

[trail flicker]

Have you seen how many times Jason players do jab 💀😭. Like bro you have other moves too

[spare sparrow]

Which char doesn’t?

[trail flicker]

Not as much as Jason

Teleport to close in then jab.

Jab every time

No other moves bro

That’s why it needs cooldown

[spare sparrow]

Dude.. I use other moves

If you faced a spammer, that’s them being a spammer

[trail flicker]

It’s every Jason including you

[spare sparrow]

Lol…

1v1 me or keep being salty

Ur choice.

[trail flicker]

Average Jason used:
Jab 60%
Teleport 20%
Other 10%

[spare sparrow]

Pick one.

[trail flicker]

I haven’t got time bro

[spare sparrow]

Ok then keep being salty.

[trail flicker]

Also I have a bad match up against Jason

[spare sparrow]

Who do you main?

[trail flicker]

Stripe

[spare sparrow]

Lol…

[trail flicker]

It’s +1 for Jason

[spare sparrow]

Use TNT if you have trouble with Jackson car-sharing

[trail flicker]

Dynamite 💀

[spare sparrow]

Master I

I’m top 8 Jason read my name

[trail flicker]

Because I was about to say dynamite barely gets anyone after diamond

[spare sparrow]

You’re using it wrong then….

I face M1 stripe using dynamite

[trail flicker]

Diagonally down

With perk

You won’t get punished that way

[spare sparrow]

Yeah yeah

[trail flicker]

But it’s still +1 for Jason

[spare sparrow]

Anyways, everyone jab fishes….

[trail flicker]

His jab is broken

[spare sparrow]

Get w the program

[trail flicker]

Cooldown will fix him

Even I think he should have a cooldown on teleport

But only 5s

[spare sparrow]

You would get laughed out of PFG for suggesting such a thing.

[halcyon badger]

Wdf

[trail flicker]

I also play black Adam too

I think it’s either even or +1 for Jason

To much jab fishing bro

[spare sparrow]

So you play BA and still feel hard matchup against Jason? You suck…

[trail flicker]

They are both as strong

I cant do anything

[spare sparrow]

Bro…

👏

[halcyon badger]

Damnnn bro deleted all his messages from earlier

[tiny cave]

💀

Black adam doesnt even have to try against jason

They just spam clap

And fly around

And jason cant even reach them

All adams just camp

And its an easy win

[trail flicker]

Bro that’s called trying

Look how much inputs

Jason does only 2 the entire game

[tiny cave]

Idk what jason were you playing against

Cuz black adam can just fly

Spam clap

And camp you

Every BA i fight

Just camps me

Does a combo and then runs away

[dry slate]

Lmao no

[trail flicker]

Black Adam’s don’t camp

I do some combos

[dry slate]

Yes they do lol. His down smash that can pop out lightning from the ground wherever you are is made exclusively for camping

[trail flicker]

It’s literally Jason who camp the most

Everyone can agree on that fact

[dry slate]

Hell no we aren't agreeing on that "fact"

Especially when Marvin and Morty exist

[trail flicker]

Teleport was made for running away from your opponent

[dry slate]

Teleport is an offensive/recovery tool. If the opponent is spamming an armor breaking move, example, CLAP, then we'll teleport defensively to keep our armor

[halcyon badger]

???? We get outcamped all the time

[halcyon badger]

And not even a good recovery tool at that

[trail flicker]

Damage boost thing should be used on teleport too

Do you guys know how op teleport uptilt is?

Almost impossible to counter unless you have armour breaker

[tiny cave]

They do

Alot

Still it isnt an easy matchup for jason

His clap hitbox is like 3 times the size of his body

[dry slate]

You're just trolling at this point. Why the hell is everyone trying say Jason takes no skill?

[tiny cave]

Everyone hatin on jason for no reason

[tiny cave]

What is that

And wdym

Teleport has no use other than jab jab tp

[halcyon badger]

He’s saying teleport into bed is Broken

With rage on

[dry slate]

Lol no. Just di up

That's it

You'll be able to dodge before bed hits

[halcyon badger]

Or just parry lol tp in neutral is reactable

[round hamlet]

How is Jason air grab at the same time not a trade

Everything in this game is a trade except when it helps me

[vagrant merlin]

Why hello

I play too aggressive for my own good.

Don't assume we're all the same

[round hamlet]

Guys just hit platinum 2

I'm so happy

[vagrant merlin]

Hooray

[dry slate]

Hell yeah

[lapis meteor]

We should do a image to show to non jason mains to come to flak us for no reason but to follow the veriflied hivemind

Because some mf coming here to just try to roast us its just happening every day 😭

[valid glen]

Hopefully next season jason works in 1v1s

Bc right now he absolutely does not

[gritty hemlock]

People hwo come here hating on Jason just mad they favorite character died in a movie. ❤️

[languid harbor]

Its fun maining multiple characters. Like my mains are Batman, Marvin and Jason

Gives variety

[feral cargo]

You Marvin's are ridiculously hard to beat for me. But I agree and having that variety gives you a better sense of character strengths

[radiant nexus]

I main Jason and Beetlejuice

[lilac mica]

Marvin buffs are seriously appreciated

[long briar]

fr

[tiny cave]

Did they buffed marvin?

[lilac mica]

They have confirmed phantom projectiles will be fixed next patch, though in a future update they will adjust the dodge so that if you combo into a lingering projectile that you dodged, it will actually hit.

This is significant to Marvin's gameplay, as right now it is really easy to dodge his kill options and take him out due to his insanely light weight

Though I really do hope Marvin gets more buffs than that, as he seriously needs adjustments to his overall kit.

EX: Helmet could use a Buff, his strong lazer attacks should be like in Beta, more Melee options, etc.

[tiny cave]

He needs a remake

[lilac mica]

Dude could use some kill options besides rocket and lucky spikes

[tiny cave]

He has the spamiest design

Like hes so brainrot

[lilac mica]

Ehhh

[tiny cave]

90% of his kit is proyectiles

[lilac mica]

His main issue is that he has too many downsides with a maximum effort game against the rest of the cast who are simply better and take far less resources for reliable kills.

[tiny cave]

Characters shouldnt depend that much on proyectiles imo

[lilac mica]

I honestly don't mind him being a zoner with a lot of projectiles, what I do mind is that he is just absolutely poor in design and needs a lot

[tiny cave]

Yeah thats what i mean

Hes design is way too spammy

[lilac mica]

Bubble for instance should allow you to trap characters too

[tiny cave]

With no combos

[lilac mica]

That way it encourages melee approaches

[tiny cave]

He has that already

[lilac mica]

If it's gonna have a cooldown, make it mean something

[lilac mica]

He can catch their projectiles, but not the characters themselves

[tiny cave]

But he can trap characters

[lilac mica]

He used to be able to via a glitch, but they patched that out

[tiny cave]

His side special can trap characters

It is a grab

[lilac mica]

Right, I'm taking about his bubble

[tiny cave]

Yeah but then whats the other thing for

[lilac mica]

Pulling people in

Thus encouraging Melee options

And his Melee options suck

If I were in charge, his normal neutral attack (shooting the bubble) not on cooldown should allow you to trap all projectiles and characters

Yes, even Jerry. Especially Jerry

Even better, trap your allies too to protect them from a hit or a KO

LSS; It should actually matter.

[mossy fern]

He pretty good wdym

[queen juniper]

Bruh they hate Jason wth they didn’t do anything to him just gave him basic QOL tweaks like every other character but everyone else got significant changes also

[halcyon badger]

Q.Q

[round hamlet]

No Jason buffs

We're never getting buffed

[river delta]

They didn't even fix the dodge bug lol. At this point I'm starting to think it's intentional somehow

[tiny cave]

WTF

Did season 3 come out already

I thought it was tomorrow

[river delta]

Just patch notes atm I'm pretty sure

[dark sapphire]

Mmm

[queen juniper]

They actually hate our boy Jason smh

[tiny cave]

Pretty sure this is an indirect buff

The new down attack momentum will give us more approach

Maybe it isnt that bad

[queen juniper]

But almost every character got that