#Jason
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possesses jason
Cant wait for the jason nerf and the superman, marvin, finn and morty buff
His jabs are also very annoying
SHHHH DONT LET THEM KNOW
I'm just gonna quit immediately when I get to platinum 5 lol
They are not gonna patch it because I made a joke here lol. If they patch it it will be because people were posting it on reddit if anything
Just saying, they patched jab1 because we started talking about it here'
If it makes you guys feel better I’ll delete it lol
Ah yes, nerf a character that already struggles because he had a mildly annoying tool
That requires skill to use might I add
God forbid Jason have a way to actually use sleeping bag lol
I have found A use for it
But other moves are still better
It just CAN be used in a semi effective way
Just jab jab wait and bag
Since you can b-reverse it
That's a game mechanic
They're not gonna remove a game mechanic they specifically added to be used
What other character can add dodge momentum to their own speed with charging attacks
Anyone that has a charged attack?
You'll notice you lose more dodge meter when you do it
dodge. momentum. speed. not that
Hang on, I'll record what I'm talking about then send it to ya
I faced two Agent Smiths in a row and felt like I couldn't do anything. Why is every other character in this game an awful matchup
Jason fat
Ik it’s annoying
I went against hardcorefox yesterday he did it on round 1 and 3
He failed it on round 2 so I clapped him so hard
It was a slaughter
So just out of curiosity is this known for Jason? It also works on other characters but not all of them.
https://youtu.be/ECOtBfUvzXQ?si=c5UENfbapqSLo8NE
Yea, that should be true for everyone. It also very common for that with Mist Step
I like the fact he goes barely more further
You can use it with dodge reads
But its risky
can we please get rid of arya
Guys
Jason is an S tier
he's not but he's fun as hell
stages need a major balance pass. same size same platforms all that
thank you
Yeah some stages give massive drawbacks to Jason overall
Especially wide stages like Scooby Doo one...
That stage is so wide that any chrs will be bunch of cowards running away from Jason
& this is massive benefit for Morty, Rick, Tom & more...
Specially shaggy
True...
Jack as well...
Jack is honestly damn annoying... they just gonna keep using jabs & done... camping like nothing since their jabs have good range
I'm getting used to parrying their side specials though...
no,i mean a shaggy vs jason in th mansion is on of the worst matchups
shaggy jsut keeps running away
and charging his rage
Regardless of who I'm playing I hate dying early because of the stages being crazy small
Don't truly like winning that way either. Though it is funny I can't lie
I mean majority of coward chrs are worse nightmares for Jason
Stages that are being small are sonewhat better for Jason coz most chrs can't run away like cowards...
It makes killing them early a lot easier too.
Forward air off stage or near the edge at around 50% kills some of em especially if they have bad DI
Exactly, it's a lot closer, knockout area are also close to where you're using Mist too...
I call that move the Usher
When the r&b musicians do some walking into a darkroom type of scene or something
Don't mind me.
I see...
😂
Do you guys genuinely believe Jason is one of the bottom tiers? Maybe I'm just fighting bad people but I don't think he is. He's definitely not a top tier but I think he could slide in somewhere in the middle of a tier list
He's not a super easy straight forward grab and go character but I don't feel like he's a bottom tier
He is bad by comparation
Not by his own merits
The competition just seems made to screw him over in particular
Most tierlists are talking about high/highest level where people know how to exploit a characters weakness, in casual gameplay he's certainly a lot stronger but he's still combo food
Pub stomper character that folds like a lawn chair to any character that has a projectile or any player that knows how to not get jabbed.
I think he plays at disadvantage in most matchups and if you’re winning easily with him then you’re either just really good at spacing/dodge usage and reading your opponent or your opponent doesn’t know how to fight a Jason. If they know what they are doing you should be fighting dodge burnout constantly and always having to escape to reposition… there are a lot of characters you just don’t have to do that with because they have better hit boxes, range, disjoints, or are just plain faster. Is he bad? No… but I would rate him toward the bottom when comparing to the roster… a lot of this is also dependent on the mode you play though as well
I suppose...
I only play ranked now. Made it to Plat yesterday. I think I'm just good at reading people. It's what has carried me in most fighting games I play. I think matchup knowledge helps for some of them too since they don't know. I try to mixup how I play during the match though
Won't go for forward airs for a bit and rely on the other moves then go for a dodge in forward air to catch em off guard
I think mixing up the moves for sure helps… I like to do a couple neutral axe attacks before I do that turbo one so it catches them by surprise it’s almost always a free stock
I think once you get used to playing at disadvantage he feels fine for the most part… but I did try Jack just to see what it felt like, and it felt like when Goku loses the weighted cuffs… I was like oh I can jab without fear of retribution, I can hit from far away, I can move out of the way of things without dodging, I did over 200 damage without even trying and we easily won and then I put the cuffs back on and went back to Jason lol
jason is ok but he has several matchups that range from kinda difficult to near impossible
outside of those matchups you can kind of play him and do fine
there are only a handful of characters that genuinely completely invalidate him despite having some harder matchups
you can do well against even good players with him as long as they don't play one of those characters tbh
and even if they do they're not completely impossible
unless its joker or gizmo
That jab really makes me wonder who's responsible for hitboxes because I try to jump so much even when I'm t&j it hit me when I'm near Jack's head
Gizmo and stripe and LeBron really the only ones for me that feel impossible as Jason. Everyone else I can beat depending on their skill or how well I'm playing. With Superman Black Adam and Batman being the hardest ones when they're "good"
Not me being put in a combo until the other decided to let me go because I’m huge
jason has some insane buttons im ngl but hes just mad slow which is to be expected.
air up special is one of the most satisfying moves in the game
cheesing a kill at like 50 never gets old
Playing someone that likes to go high over you is always fun when you can hit em with an up special and kill super early
Oh man...
yeah like that move is actually insane, so good
How do we think the Beetlejuice matchup will go
preview he looked slowish and had some startup on moves so maybe good
but honestly not enough of his moveset was shown really
He's not a swordie and doesn't appear to a lot of (strong) projectiles so I think it'll be fine
He'll probably be a better character than Jason so its not going to be a Jason sided fight but he doesn't look like he outreaches or zones too hard
He is an assassin so he's probably light and easy to kill off the top though
Yea I feel like we'll need to see how he actually "feels", like how disjointed his attacks are and what his hitboxes are like, before we can really tell how good he is though
If he's got some good range on his attacks and he's faster than Jason it'll probably be a little rough but not as bad as Marvin or something
All of what I just said is based on assumptions, mostly from a one minute video so yeah, we really don't know yet
Decent
Like jack
Nothing compared with beta characters
Jack isnt a bad matchup for jason
Jack is one of the few fun to fight characters as jason
I don’t enjoy fighting Jack but mostly because I see so much of him… for a minute there he was literally in every match I queued into… I’d get sick of fighting anyone that much
That's valid especially when they're an annoying tonfight character
I seen a lot at the beginning of season 2 but i havent seen much recently
What its rare to fight is a reindog
I just fought like 5 since relaunch
any news if they are gonna fix jasons hitboxes on his machete? getting really tired of my machete being through someones chest and then they hit a button and I get punished for it
No news
I must be dreaming
I found an actually good player in ranked
And not a spammer
And ofc got killed by lag and lost 24 points
Game sucks
It took me going on a 6 set win streak to get more than 15 per win
And when I did finally lose a set, I lost 25
I just grinded from the tail end of gold 1 to platinum 4
respect
Facts
100%
i was trying to record background footage and some montage footage for future use
and every match i played had a jack at one point
I just gave up
Begging for shaggy to not be able to literally suspend his fall while he charges that move
they are not that invasive at least for me
i prefer him rather than finn
Why does Jason has hurtbox in his axe and machete?
They are an invasive species lol. Hunting of Finn and Jack mains are strongly encouraged
Jack no
Jack can counter finns brainrot
I like him
With his own brainrot
This. I don't mind the side special spamming, that can be dodged with practice. Hate their jab so much though
Agreed. Side special is dodgeable most of the time but his jab is massive and fast
Y’all what song to put in the background of a Jason montage
I’m floating the idea of All Star
Friday the 13th Part 8 Chase Theme
Seems too cheery for Jason. Luigi's mansion theme perhaps?
Also the hunter theme from little nightmares I was thinking of
But I’ll consider all of them
A very good game that is. Can't wait for the third one
Same
Trust me when i tell you
Swan lake or carol of the bells
Part 3 chase theme from Friday the 13th the game
Carol of the Bells goes hard ngl
The Friday the 13th part 3 main title theme slaps so hard… the first two movies had more classical instrumentals… the opening theme of 3 is next level though, really leaning into the 80s vibes
Yes but, the drop of swan lake sounds straight up evil, lol
Jason was known to kill on the dance floor
I will consider all of this
On the 20th we pray we get buffs
Or just a single buff
Pls revert the nerf
I want my sauce back
MAKE HIS PASSIVE GREAT AGAIN
Since this is the most active channel can someone explain me please what exclusive means? Specifically the Batman who laughs skin from the prestige store
I think it means that is the only place you will ever find the item. Like the code agent smith said exclusive and is now unobtainable
Tier 70 skins aren’t sadly
You can only get them in the prestige story I’m guessing
Make his passive exist*
The passive is bugged imo
Any gray health doesn’t apply except his move
And it never said its armor
Oh good, btw did anyone noticed that bots tend to replicate and learn from real players game style?
Make his passive actually a passive and not straight up lie to our face
Right? Every character should have a decent passive that actually works and doesn't feel part of another ability.
Like Morty passive giving his teammates a granade, thats something that should be part of his special neutral.
Same with stripe passive marking enemies, that should be something of his special ability.
Stripe passive could be something like "Allergic to sunlight"
When stripe is on fire, he deals extra damage, hitstun and knockback.
Hold up that’s actually kinda fire for a passive since he can put himself on fire whenever he wants already
I’m probably done if the game doesn’t get overall changes
Even if jason gets buffed a lot atp the game has many core issues
And characters other than jason are also either super weak or busted
Not many chars are in a good place
I think a lot of characters fundamentally feel badly designed a lot of the time
Not even mentioning the other stuff like ranked being awful
I think most are in a good spot
Especially after seeing the winrates and pick rates for ranked. Jason having a 5% pick rate despite how bad people like to say he is has a flat 50% winrate and with more players than average that's good if you ask me.
I said it before
But the game has 0 expression
Joker having some of the most players also sitting around like 50-53% is good though in his case it's probably due to some of the players not being super consistent or very good.
Every player plays every character the exact same
I think it does people just choose to play that way to win. Don't remember which dev it was but he said "Players will optimize the fun out of every game. It's your job to make that harder for them."
Every platform fighter ive watched people play they tend to do that and it gets annoying but also makes it easy to beat the meta slaves
There's always going to be exceptions
you can see clear and fundamental gameplay differences
this games problem is bread and butter combos all kill
But it'll be true in most cases. Joker (P5), Ganondorf, Captain Falcon, Mario etc
the difference in (base game) smash top tiers and MVS top tiers is smash top tiers adapt to their matchup MVS top tiers are that way because their options are indiscriminately better than their opponents
The ones that aren't straight forward easy to pickup tend to be the exceptions. For this game I think T&J , Jason, Garnet, Jake at least offer those different playstyles. Morty too but they're slaves to dirt and bombs rn
i wont get into DLC characters bc smash DLC was a mistake
Somewhat agree but they've also had 5 games to get that right and over 10 years
This game has had about 3 years and not even truly 3 because it was down and the testing they do internally will never match the actual gameplay we the players have and the info they get from us
i also think thats just a result of the game having like what
9 total moves
or is it 15
13
mb
Balance for this game means almost nothing to me because few games get it right to a point with few complaints. Playing Jason made me much more patient because he felt terrible but he's actually pretty good when you understand him more than just big slow dude.
That would probably help too
jason isnt good
like
hes just not
gets shredded by anyone with a projectile, gets combo'd to oblivion (thanks for making him gigantic), has no armor
I disagree. I don't hard lose to anyone but Gizmo and Black Adam in my own gameplay experience. LeBron too but that one is much more me
oh and also has to work harder to win
We know garnet and Velma are getting buffs/reworked so hopefully they make the game balanced by removing loops and stuff like that
Like Velma is bad I think but they have the second highest win rate in this game. Because they've just gotten so good at knowing their matchups and their character
Essentially making the game more fair by removing loops
This would be best
Loops is kinda what’s killing the game tbh
Since you're top 5 Jason what do you think? I'm only plat 5 with him but I don't think he is a bad character at all anymore
I’ve been seeing a lot of people quit until mid patch hoping they fix the game
that is cope ngl
Waiting for mid patch is cope?
no i mean thinking its gonna fix the game
Oh
Omg imagine if MVS eventually added DLC characters that were somehow even more broken than pre-patch Joker
It'll happen I'm sure
Unless they really figure their game out soon
ngl they do this with all the added characters sans jason
-add new character
-its broken on release
-wait until people have already bought the character and are waiting on the new one
-patch it
I forgot sans was a french word and just imagined Jason in a blue jacket and a glowing blue hockey mask eye hole
Personally I think Jason needs 2 buffs rn and that’s fixing the passive making it none armor and reverting the nerf he got at the launch of the season
Overall they need to get a better understanding on what players actually want
Like Wonder Woman being nerfed is something that is actually wanted and not out of sucking for example
are they trying to get every character to a 50% win rate like sakurai did
are they balancing based on top players or anyone who throws feedback in
Joker is still unarguably top 3
Banana guard was free
Jason wasn't included in that
Jack has yet to be nerfed
???
Like a iron giant rework is wanted
Imo just make him smaller
i think ig should be removed ngl
And he’s gonna be fine most likely
i think if they were gonna make him smaller that should've been the first nerf they tried
His size causes a lot of his problems
You could make him like 20% smaller and be fine
He's still large but not the x2 size he currently is
I think they should balance based on the feedback they get from both the top and bottom. If they have the same complaint fix that. If they have the opposite complaints then balance from the top. Get rid of loops and give characters actual recovery for missing some of the moves, then also stop with the crazy huge moves like Jack's triple slash. If you're going to do it the recovery needs to be hard. Like if they're on stage guaranteed punish or a nice cooldown.
Slow attacking characters shouldn’t have so much whiff imo and fast attacking characters should have more whiff
Yes
Also yes I assume Godzilla never coming after the IG stuff
It’s unholy
I live that whiff
The whiff on bag is shameful for a move not good
And easily dodged
Maybe if they make IG smaller and see if it works they could try Godzilla but around the same size
That's what I'd do. Just give up on whatever realism or true to character bs we have with him and shrink him more
Being real with everyone I still don't think armor should be in this game.
I can't remember it. I just picked on him all day
Such better than currently
He was smaller but his moveset was weak since the game was fast
While the game rn fits him perfectly but maybe too much because of his size
begging for shielding to be added
actually
can they just take neutral special and turn it into a shield ala smash
make it a shield with a grab
Regardless of what they do I think we can agree more defensive mechanics are needed and the dodging needs to be nerfed. Way too excessive and it only truly benefits the smallest characters and the already top-tier ones
Why is bag whiff not cancellable partway through the animation like other moves?
Like Black Adam and Superman dashing or dodging away irritates my soul
Because they overestimated how good the move was when they did their testing
Prob Jason's least used move by any Jason player
i have never purposefully input sleeping bag
The one clip I have of me using it to amazing success was me getting a misinput
And that honestly.made it better but still.
I think jab 1 pre nerf was the one way to combo into it guaranteed. Everything else is a gamble
I only use it to be disrespectful at this point
Rage into jab into bag works
If you’re close enough
This is my prpblem with it too. I had seen a video of someone saying that and I just swore it off after they got out the first time.
It used to be true every time with rage jab until nerf
Worst move is rage roar
At least bag knocks people off stage
I do
I could theoretically see a world where people use Sleeping Bag if it gets a good combo line or a lowered whiff lag. I don't know why you'd ever use the rage roar... unless they made it kill at like 50 or something lol
GUYS I FINALLY HIT PLATINUM
I AM FREEE
Fair but I do it out of disrespect still
welcome to the heavens
another samurai slayed
now we got a batman. RIP Me
well maybe not 👀
Boys
We got em 
Finally made it to Plat. Feels good
welcome
When will the Uber Jason skin be back please tell me
It is currently back
$20
I really wish it was an exclusive to the battle pass
I hope we get exclusive skins but considering Uber Jason is going to be Jason's best skin by a mile for the foreseeable future I'm fine with it being sold
I dont
Idk I feel like battle pass things, at the very least the final grindy reward, should be exclusive
Make them exclusive for 2 years or something
That I’m fine with
But immediately selling it feels like a slap in the face to people who grinded the pass
I agree
Its actually easy to level up
Even if you miss days the missions accumulate
Doesn’t change that it feels scummy
Like if you didnt complete season 2 pass you have to wait until season 4 to buy it
This game aint lasting 2 years
I even doubt they made it to the year
Also im getting matched in ranked with the same people
At the next day
It happened to me like twice
Same but it was one match right into the next
However
I dont like exclusivity
Actually if you buy the pass
And made it all the way to 70
You would be wasting 950
When its in the story
It worth like 2000 glemium
Yeah
So its better for them
And its better for us
Im not wasting 2000 glemium on that
And missions accumulate if you dont do them so its not hard to level up
So i dont mind battle pass not being exclusive
Its overall cheaper sure but you're still playing often and they get someone from having recurring players. They're still making a lot of money off the bp, its not like they're doing it out of their own pocket
Not that often
You can just do missions
And thats it
You dont have to play 1 or 2 hours a day for 1 level
To get missions you have to log in
So there is a daily expectation. Even if you finish the missions all in one day you still have to log in t get those missions
missions accumulate so you arent losing anything for not playing a day
You lose the missions for that day
You dont
I dont do them and they acumulate
I refuse to believe you get daily missions for days you didn't log in
Yeah you do
Do you have proof?
Missions repeating
Like "play 5 2v2 games"
Appearing twice
Also happens with weekly missions
You get duplicate missions sometimes
Back in season 1 people were getting four or more Joker side special weekly missions
If you dont play that day they also duplicate
That is almost certainly not true
Did you log in today?
Well i want you to get a mission halfway done
And when you return tomorrow
It will still be there
I never said dailies don't save between days
They do, even without having progress on them in my experience
Sometimes I'll complete a bunch of dailies because I haven't been playing but I logged in and they were saved
That what i was talking about this whole time
What I'm saying is if you do not log in for a day you don't get missions. If you do log in then you get missions and you keep them until you complete them (or for a while)
Well
You can open and close the game
I have the pass completed and we are not even mid season
If you're home, have time, remember, and have electricity and internet.
And how many days have you played this season?
Half hour or hour a day
I sometimes open and close the game so i dont loose missions
So you've put 15-30 hours into the battlepass
More like 18-20
Thats a decent level of commitment
Sure the items are being sold for a lot more than you pay but they're not worth that much
They're still making good money off you and they're also benefiting off your play time counting towards their numbers and helping keep queue times lower
How
I'm still level 55
I've missed like 5 days total only
I'm at level 55 and I almost never intentionally do dailies
Almost all of that is from events/rifts/weeklies/accidental dailies
If you log in and log out you dont lose missions
I know but I'd still be only level 60
Jason used to have XP booster at the start of the season
I used to get 75 XP for winning and 50 for losing
They remove it when the first event started
I think when the drone skins came out
Yeah because he was sports attire
I've got two tiers worth of dailies I could do to get to 57 but I'll finish it with weeklies so I'm chilling
I don't like it but the win screen is cool
Who doesn't like Uber Jason 
1 skin a season is crazy man
Maybe he'll get some event ones but idk.
I noticed jasons damage badge is glitched
I have 77k damage
And it got stuck at that exact number
77 437

Mine is bugged and says like 3k even though I've been playing him for three months
Guys, maybe Jason should do double damage on FT13th
I really hope they actually do something special for him when it is Friday the 13th
Holy crap that's actually next month
Water physics
They said it was a pier or something on the edge of the lake right?
They should have the yacht from Manhattan go in the background
They can make manhattan
Using the cristal lake map
Bc its just gonna be the bridge
So they can just change the background and add some details referencing the movie
why dont I have the energy for ranked. Just playing Jason man I go against a arya. hitbox messed up. playstation player of course, hitting me from gaps.. idk. this has been my go too game for like 2 months and now that im seeing all the faults its so hard to want to keep playing 😦
Wait when was this announced??
I don’t think it was. I thought it was leaked in the game files
Ranked sucks. The issue is that who you play isn’t based on your actual rank. Instead, it’s based on a hidden MMR stat that encompasses things like your total win rate, number of games played, total wins, total playtime, account level, etc so having a new account makes your grind to master rank an absolute joke
I’m really hoping they change this for season 3
Leaked plus next month theres a F13
I heard that the #1 Arya is still only losing like 3 RP for a loss when normally you should be losing like 25 RP in master
If they dont do anything on the 13th I swear
Either wins streak was something to do or hacks or just luck
I am very sad
Win streaks and loss streaks do affect your gains/losses
But the biggest factor is how your MMR compares to your opponent’s
Iirc
I have bugs kinda domained
At least the brainrotted ones
Ah that’s why I lost 80 rp once
I was on a massive Jason win streak
Like 20 something
That happened to someone in Velma chat once
They should add
That when og jason wins
The oponent dissapears
I mean
In the winning screen
Theres no one in the oponent side
Bc default Jason is literally carrying a dead body in his winning screen
S tier idea
Imagine: It starts with Jason dragging the opponent from their side over to his side, then he does his win pose.
Using air walker off stage and then up special is the most satisfying kill in the game
it's pretty funny
Yurp
Next match was 60
140 in 1 night took 2-3 hours to get that 140 rp before losing btw
The grab or the booty wipe?
U dont know what is about to come...
THE GRAB ON THE WAH?!
What did ram mean by this
Shoutout to the booty wipe
Grab
I love that move
aghhh.... Airwalker seems so cool, but i always whoop anyone using it which makes me demotivated to use it
what the hell is the booty wipe
I honestly hardly ever see it anymore but for a minute there I was seeing a lot of Aryas with it… the good ones were scary with it
it just seems so expensive
It has a bigger delay between activation and attacking, and it costs more dodge now
I don’t think it’s worth it on Jason when last stand and speed force assist are just more beneficial
Jason can pretty consistently live above 100 because he’s heavy
And speed force assist while only a 5% boost helps because of how slow Jason is
And air parry into up special kills mad early if you can read your opponent
@unique pewter Benergy is such a good channel
Yea I truly appreciate the commentary as to why he’s doing what he’s doing during gameplay… sometimes people are really good but they aren’t explaining why they’re doing certain things
That and how positive he is
He’s one of few people I watch who rarely complain
Plus when he gets beaten, he talks about what he could’ve done better rather than make excuses and complain
Yes exactly, it’s closer to how I am personally when I play, and the discord can get rough sometimes so I enjoy watching someone who has good vibes
I hope he opens a discord someday
Now that i think about it
They wasted the oportunity to add jason retro as a part of the circuit event
😭
Top tier youtuber
did i miss announcements? did anything get announced for jason?
Theres an update preview in 1h 30m, at the start of the hour.
we may see balance changes then
They’ve timed it so I can watch while at lunch (I’m in school rn)
I thought I’d miss it
i forget that not everyone has UK school holidays
its at 6pm for me
Better keeping expectations low
Just hope Finn gets the nerf hammer 😭
as long as they atleast get rid of the hurtboxes on his sword axe and bed i'm fine
🙏
hurtboxes*
hurtboxes*
We pray for buffs to the big man today. 6 minutes
And skins
We def getting skins
Beetlejuice Jason let's gooo
how did they kill jason
any jason news fellas?
yeah its over
I mean on the bright side we have auto tech, so rip superman loops lol
Also might be a lot easier to bait ppl since they’ll try mashing other moves to punish us
It’s joever?
Unless we get some buffs
Faster is a generous term for how slow our jab is 😭
Multiversus is back on the table for me now
i can play and not suffer every match in some way
Yeah I got so hyped when I saw that combo
WAIT
I just noticed
The grab has armor!!
How long till people start complaining about Jason buffs
Ah dang, I had only just started doing Air Down Special into Jump/Dodge Down Air ground bounce combos, time to tech chase I guess.
Grab armor is very nice, I might actually use it now
Now all we need are skins
Where are y'all getting this from? Are patch notes out already?
Imagine a part 2 skin
And a perk that allow jason to shoot a proyectile
His proyectile would be a pitchfork
Maskless jason would be sick
The armor yeah idk about the ground thing
The grab seems a little faster
We got rid of half roster with the ground thing
Fair but it also effects us in a way
But if Jason’s attack speed is faster we’re good
That combo looks good tbh
So I’ll be using it
Might be better than the current one at low %
Yeah but yknow
Now people need to ACTUALLY
Learn to play
Instead of looping
Like superman
And tnj
I assume it works now I don't think it's truly a new combo
Well no it's definitely new... maybe it seems familiar or doable
You can do the dunk into air grab into down special with the run
Gonna see if I can hit the combo in my head I swear I have before but if so I'll send it
you can at least do the first three hits of that combo currently
though it doesn't work at zero so there is some changes there
Any Jason buff is good to me
give me the harpoon pls
The first combo will still be true if u read
Also theres another one that is down air special + teleport
Yeah it's honestly cool as hell
I was trying to replicate the one in the stream for the most part
If you start further on either side you can do more depending on your starter and the percentage
I've been able to combo into the full run and it's always super satisfying to get both or the final hit
Anyone want the Jason discord, dm me and I'll send it
I'm fuming man. I made it to Plat as Jason the other day and didn't want to play more to avoid deranking. Played ONE GAME in Plat, lost and immediately deranked. This sucks
Wait till tomorrow they are balancing the points system
Now you wont gain 5 and lose 80
I only lost like 16, it was just I was at the bottom of the rank
any of my brothers in here struggle against WW?
The problem wasn't so much the amount lost as it was the fact that I immediately deranked after one game in Plat lol
Cuz it was ur first game
When i got to diamond 5 i got matched with the top 1 master stripe
I did get hit with shield bash but it will beat it like 95% of the time. Just gotta feel it out for the timing but I usually don't worry about it
Guys btw in the showcase, Jasons neutral air grab had armour... just saying.
so excited for nerfs to top tiers so jason can actually play the game
I’m lowkey excited to do more dodge attack shenanigans since it costs less
When the aerial neutral special connects into dodge jab just right
are they seriously giving the air grab armor? that's actually too crazy
that's going to be a real "feels bad" move to get hit by, you can drift with that air grab so far
Still worse than Jacks grab
Jack grab is way worse
I never hit that grab
Jason is just slower
And now you cant get hit while doing the grab
You can reverse Jack's and it steals projectiles
Also if the grab has armor maybe taz will be easier to counter
I mean the tornado
Theres a lot of stuff i want to test out
I wish they make him a bit faster or also add armor to the stomp
Also the sleep bag needs less endlag
Bro if his grab gets armor thats crazy good
Agree
I kinda wanted his air down special to get the armor though
For easier distance closing
Maybe Rage will get a Grayhealth buff also lol
You guys are missing the point
The grab getting armour isn’t the important thing
The important thing is you can literally combo off of it now
In the clip jason dodge cancels the grab into a combo
I noticed that, he also was able to act quickly out of his Down special
Jason having more follow ups is gonna be nice
It do be massive
Since it’s not that good most of the time giving it armor makes it where they have to dodge instead of hitting you out of the grab
Or a trade
I thought he was always able to do that at low %
But looking at the clip
It does seem faster into the dodge attack
you always could
Man I fricking hate Joker
Keep running away & spamming Jabs as well Side Special...
Jabs wont have priority anymore
Wdym?
Side specials will no longer trade with jabs
If superman is making his dash for example
You can dash attack through it
But like Joker keeps moving away & using Jabs like idk what to do at that point
Idk
Ofc you don't know... coz there are no counters to him camping at the edge & unleased all the op jab ranges
This patch they will make wall fatigue way more punishable
Absolutely ridiculous
They are doing an anticamp system now wall fatigue appears much faster
If you spend 5 seconds camping
They already drain your dodge meter and that also makes you slowe
Idk if that's a indirect good buff for Jason
When you cant dodgr
It is
All gizmos used to camp the whole game
Joker still have an alternative to spam Side Special...
You can try to read it or punish him
Also they added new dodges
Now you can dodge better
If ur close to the ground the character does a new animation
Its like you can get faster to thd ground dodging now
And i think they buffed the momentum attack
The dodge plus any attack
A'ight
Jump and then down attack him
Like I would know what he's about to do...
Just assume they'll do it. Most people don't change how they play even when it's not working
Fighting games are just reading people and manipulating them. When you start beating their bs they either keep doing it because they don't know what else to do or they try changing up. If good they'll know how to change it up. Then when you start beating them especially if it's easy for you they'll resort to what they know again
It's a lot of thinking to do while playing but depending on your skill and knowledge of the characters you can do it.
Batman, Harley will slide a lot and as they start charging/running I jump for it. If they slide then free slam. If not jump again and slam anyway 😂 assuming I don't get hit.
What I do I do for all of us.
I'm basically a Jason main at this point I talk with you guys more than Tom and jerry mains.
Pray we get bless, Jason bros
Without armor you're not gonna land the grab in the first place
❌
True jason mains just throwed the grab at random
And since the range was obcene, it just hits
Can't he like Jab Jab IAD grab?
The grab is too slow
His only true combo into the grab is from a dair ground bounce iirc
Otherwise, you have to use it as a dodge read
Idk any jacks combod
I played him once bc i completed the pass
And at the very start of the season
You just gotta feel it out or force it with fast falling into them
I've gotten three in a row to off stage kill
Is more pro camping than anti camp in my personal opinion.
How so?
If I learn something about ranking into master and from analyzing the midnight tournament. At least in my personal experience, the main reason why we face "Wall campers." Is because most characters have a very hard edge control, and the real campers are the characters that hard punish getting knock off the stage.
At least is experienced like that. Wall fatigue is a little bit exaggerated considering how difficult is actually to getting into stage with 'Edge campers'.
Depends on characters
I just wait for them to overstep and up special or up attack em
They aint doing that
I think you can just gotta be quick with it
Like once you input it almost as soon as you do you turn the other way
Unless you mean mid grab
Where
That’s it
Really
Not a passive update
Not assuring us if it’s supposed to be armor or not
Nerfed jack as well. And Rick's huge jab
jasoncord is saying this is bad i don’t get why
jason vs finn is in jason’s favor now I think
Nerfed his jab hitbox and jab has low priority now
Doesn't mean that TOD's don't exist
They still exist but they should be more difficult than before
Which is a start
I guess
We got lucky!
That got removed so
Jack players are about to drop
Almost to patch notes fellow masked murderers
hopefully the end of Finn’s reign over us
They dropped already
Reading it now
Thank god Finn needs to actually play the game now
Have the patch notes dropped
Yep. Check the website
Damn discord people be taking their time pasting it into the channel 😭
Are they still not fixing his dodge bug from Grounded Up/Down attack, c'mon it's been there since day 1
Probably never will lol
Oh you mean the one where your dodge direction is reversed buffering it after those?
Because it is really annoying
Yeah that's the one
Can’t lie I was expecting a little more than just the armour grab
But I’ll have to get back into ranked and see for myself I guess
Jason is good my brothers. He doesn't need a ton. Though I still think bag needed a buff 
Also No T&J nerfs 🇼

I NEED to know if the passive is meant to be armor or not
I just noticed you're also a Jason/T&J player
Let's gooooo
Yeah been hooked to this game since the old leak about it's existence. Saw T&J and I've been dedicated since
YESSSSS THIS HAD ME LIKE

Jason eating good this patch
Read through it all, most surprising thing to me is the class changes
Making Marvin and Morty Mages and making Taz an assassin makes a lot of sense
Agreed
Honestly the only change I want to Jason after this patch, is making his grey health not act like armor
I would like him to be faster instead
And have new perks
And rework the current ones
Bully her
Honestly, it affects so little matchups that it doesn’t matter imo
Im a jason main lemme be happy
Jason still probably loses the matchup
The air neutral special grab armor seems nice
Actually usable move now
Shame that PFG is still so intent on not nerfing Joker, so he’s probably top 1 again
If a DC character isn’t S tier, it’s not a DC character
Is the update out rn?
its out
Dodging into the ground is 7 frames faster, so it allows for more wavedash-like movement
Beetlejuice is broken we are doomed
Im 100 glemium away from the friday the 13th ringout
Is BJ busted?
I am humored by the Beetlejuice skin for Jason
Jesus Christ
Can't imagine that's true
wtf did they do with this character
this character feels so overpowered post patch ?
or is it me
Bots don't consistently DI the correct way and one of those definitely looked escapable
Jason?
You talking about jason?
Or Lebron
jason
He got like 3 buffs idk. IMO he's always been good peeps just don't know
Literally the only thing they did to him is giving him armor in one move
And they nerfed almost half roster
He’s good in a vacuum, just not against half the cast
the grab ?
Please explain that phrase
On his own he’s great, compare him to everyone else and he’s mid
yeah that explains why
Jason is no longer loopeable with the tech update
Oh okay.
Whats that mean
Stfu
Love you too
They finally gave our boy an armored move. Our time is now fellow Jason brothers 🗿
I figured because the hostile comments were off the rip
Yeah he’s sitting right next me
who are you?
Shut
Jason getting one singular buff to make up for the universal jab and ledge game nerfs
On the plus side everyone else got nerfed so maybe we're still better off lol
Jason + Everyone else nerf is good
Lmao
They did nerf her a bit, surprisingly
Mostly buffs though
Jason Sauceeng
They'll get used to it. They've done so well with less
You seen their winrate????
58% pre buffs
Well Joker didn't get touched lol
Jason is cooking rn
guess they added some kinda of anti afk feature to ffa, cause now people are just suiciding over and over
just let me have fun you damn farmers
Y’all the Beetlejuice voice lines to Jason are phenomenal
Probably some of the best interactions in the game
tnj is awful still
He got tapped on the shoulder
Finally. A armoured move for jason
Bruh
They only gave armor for one move
Nothing more
Are you actually serious
Meanwhile joker is untouched
dude armor on that move is insane
i'm still under the opinion they should just nuke all armor on attacks from the game, its an unfun mechanic
let WW keep her down special, but that's it
That's one of the worst offenders of armor
This I agree but that final statement I do not.
I think Iron Giant and Jason should be the only ones with it.
Since they're tanks but should still be on a case by case basis. None for Superman because I'm a salty gamer but I haven't figured out how to counter his armored bs. Think he just shouldn't have it though since he's not combo fodder
Long as the duration stays low it's whatever
How do you guys actually play Jason
LET'S GOOO JASON BUFF
Tried playing him and got cooked badly
Intimidation
Rage is his biggest strength
All of my moves get beaten by people its not fair 
We're stubborn as hell for one
like literally be relentless
after you knock someone away you can chase after them easily with teleport
and then you go DEEP OFF STAGE to follow them and put them in the dirt
and then tp back
Hard reads character. If you're good at reading people you can be good with him. Just gotta learn to DI and be okay with getting hit a lot
Or get good at parrying
I only started trying to parry because of Samurai Jack
What'd you do 👀
Bros faster, armored grab is incredible and consistent, down special is better, bro feels really good to play
Grab buff is good was just harder to land since you get hit and lose it but bag should've gotten buffed too
Just a littl
Maybe so, but Jason just feels like...really good
its a helluva long time, why do you ask?
Oh ok
I was wondering because if it activated really early it could’ve possibly been an amazing escape tool
Harley tries juggling you and you just instantly grab out of it
It’s probably like frame 20 like Steven’s shield
servers busted? matches taking forever to load or timing out
Pretty sure they're gone right now. Not surprised considering the large number of bugs this update
Alright man they gotta do something about the Beetlejuice infinite
Guaranteed any Beetlejuice you run into is just spamming that
He hasn't been out for 12 hours yet and they already found loops?
Damn that was quick, they'll probably hotfix that or something
well it basically is quick enough for disadvantage
Idk I don’t have Beetlejuice
same, some people are too annoyed by him being early access, which btw he isnt even p2w because i have 1.7k gleamium f2p
You've been playing for while
Newer players have to pay
orrrr they could wait, seeing as they dont play all the time anywayz
It's only 3 days. Be grateful it wasn't like a few weeks I suppose
Arya doesn’t feel too different outside of sair killing like 20% later
Then he's currently p2w
She’s definitely still top tier
i feel way better with jason than before
It doesn't matter if he's GOING to be free, he currently isn't
beetlejuice is free for cool kids... i still didnt buy it
Beetlejuice's moves do wayy to much knockback neutral special killed me at 100???
I was able to get the Beetlejuice skin for Jason (I got all but the Toon one currently)
You should had buyed when it was on discount
Ehhh idk, the skin I was dedicated to getting was the Uber Jason skin. So I didn't have the motivation to get the Toon skin.
I mean at least you guys have armor and are heavy
Insane take
He has pretty trash knockback
Neutral special is his one strong move
Ngl, I got a feeling that next season (due to it being close to Halloween)... we could get a new Jason skin (hopefully on the battlepass)
Factual lie
3 of his moves have insane knockback, neutral attack, neutral special and side grounded special
But idk it's day 1 maybe I'm wrong
Were getting a crystal lake map (next month we have a friday the 13th and there was a leaked crystal lake map)
wait for real?
Yeah
Nice
Next month theres a friday the 13th
Oooo true
Maybe they wanted to bring it as a surprise but it got leaked
Multiversus if you add pamela as jason's voice (or announcer) my live is yours
Fun fact
For those who don’t remember
My moms name is Pamela
She loves the Friday movies
Lol
You gotta talk to Tony about that