Jason

[radiant nexus]

It has its uses

[knotty sage]

the bag is iconic but the harpoon would be bettert

[radiant nexus]

I’ve been using it more and it works really well

[lapis meteor]

Tbh, i would replace down attack with a harpoon

It impales the ground with the harpoon (and it works exactly as it does now)

And then he csn pick it up to yeet

[knotty sage]

would help jason against zoners too

[radiant nexus]

It’s just a specific move

[tiny cave]

very specific situations plus you have the tp kill

[radiant nexus]

In 2s it’s way more useful

[tiny cave]

they should add harpoon as a perk that replaces bag

for those who prefer 1v1

[knotty sage]

a grab for a grab

[tiny cave]

like me

[radiant nexus]

Yeah

[tiny cave]

i fought marvin for first time as jason

hes the worst matchup with tJ in 2nd place

How to counter jason: the character

[tiny cave]

Actually 2nd but the first one wasnt a competent marvin

[wide shale]

very tough to get in on a marvin

especially since he can just spam the zappy beam without punishment vs jason

[radiant nexus]

Marvin is light so he dies easily at least

[knotty sage]

i remember he used to be able to hold it down for a long time but it would damage him

[tiny cave]

I was plat 2 and now im plat 3 😭

I died against a samurai Jack bc of lag

Then i got matched with a marvin

And then with a superman

[lapis meteor]

I remenber yesterday i won against a Diamond 3 jason as platinum 5

Got 33 rp out of it

[radiant nexus]

Heck yeah

I beat a masters player once and only got 20 rp

[rose haven]

Finally at plat in 2v2s

Let the pain continue

[lapis meteor]

Guys

Its me

Or jason charging his rage looks like he just got a very good idea

[radiant nexus]

His roar needs to be buffed

[lapis meteor]

Like

He looks down as if concentrates, snd when he is done, he looks like

"Eureka"

[radiant nexus]

[lapis meteor]

At minimun a fully charge wonder woman down attack

[tiny cave]

AYO

I got 12 RP for free

Bc My oponent ragequited

Nice

[formal dirge]

or shaggy's teleport aura

[tiny cave]

Wym shaggys teleport

[formal dirge]

shaggy super saiyan teleport

with his neutral special

[tiny cave]

I beated a 2k wins with arya

I think i got the trick

Against her

You gotta read her dash attack

And his down special

The dash attack with dodge

[tiny cave]

I use it like if it was a taunt

[formal dirge]

btw is jason sig perk good?

the tp one

[lapis meteor]

Is controversial-

You gain a lot but also lose a lot

Some people swear over monstrous sidestep

Other people despise it

[formal dirge]

imma just stick with 5%

[lapis meteor]

Same

[wide shale]

5% is best in 2v2's, which perk in 1v1s is debatable

[lapis meteor]

Objectibly speaking

It aint resurrectionist chief

[formal dirge]

not at all

[wide shale]

maybe if resurrectionist didnt kill you earlier than normal

even then, it's not worth

[formal dirge]

maybe should be like in mk10

so basically another chance

[wide shale]

literally any character can outrun jason

seems to easy to wait it out

[livid agate]

Jason is bad but he can win even at the highest level

[lapis meteor]

Unless taz

Good luck beating a high level taz

[feral cargo]

I use the teleport one. The other one is not good at all Resurrectionist. If the person is "smart" they'll just run from you until you die and you'll have to risk yourself just to catch them anyway. If in 2's your mate can take it from.you by dying first themselves. The teleport one I swear by it because the teleport combo is crucial imo.

[formal dirge]

it might be a really dumb question

but is the tp combo true and how do i do the grounded attacks since when i teleport i can only do air moves ?

[feral cargo]

The jab jab teleport into off stage combo is only true if they're in dodge burnout and above 50%. 55%+ just to be safe. The grounded one works if they hit the stage but I can't tell you why it's not having you grounded

[formal dirge]

i ll have to try again in training

[feral cargo]

Also depends on their damage and how far to the opposite side you are. If it's early damage you can do it easy . High damage you'll likely never get it. If you're airborne you can do forward air, or neutral attack to catch a dodge and depending on your distance and if they dodge up or down.you can go for up special and down attack. Down attack.really hard though don't recommend

[feral cargo]

Are your dms open I can send you a clip. Could just post it but don't wanna get flack.for my swearing in the video

[formal dirge]

yea u can send me

[feral cargo]

🇼💯

[rose haven]

I’m now top 100 jasons in 2v2

hoorayyy

[tiny cave]

IM DIAMOND

[analog portal]

Things my axe has traded with recently:
Batman's leg
Superman's arm
Mr Meseeks
Morty's arm

[feral cargo]

Lol guess you haven't seen bed trade with batman's leg yet

Or scoop

Or leg when you're jabbing batman from behind

[analog portal]

I have I'm just documenting them

[feral cargo]

Batman is just a wonderful character

[dry slate]

Batman... why must his very low, long reaching armor breaking dash attack disjoint have to exist?

[feral cargo]

Axe slam trades with it too

Or just loses

[radiant nexus]

Don’t forget that you dodge the first hit, the second still activates even though it realistically shouldnt

[dry slate]

They did that with Agent Smith, but oooh no, he isn't a DC character like BATMAN

[radiant nexus]

Exactly

[atomic cedar]

i am a tough guy truther

tough guy is a very funny perk

[atomic cedar]

I really want to know

Why dodging after a charge attack is still inverted

[feral cargo]

YO

I thought I was just crazy

[atomic cedar]

Like

What does this serve

[lapis meteor]

dont you guys hate being unable to use stickers

because jason is so freakign tall

that the stickr gts cutted off the victory screen

[atomic cedar]

i have never felt outskilled by a tom and jerry

ive always felt cheesed

[void topaz]

Ive started blocking every tom and jerry

We'll be looking good in a few months once the purge is complete

[feral cargo]

i've been told its temp so not really

[west cloak]

I don’t think so. The guy I blocked in beta is still on my block list

[tiny cave]

What does DI mean?

[lapis meteor]

TOONIVERSE JASON ON DISCOUNT LADIES AND MENTLEGEN

[tiny cave]

I BOUGHT HIM WEEKS AGO

[lapis meteor]

well you are dumb

should had saved up

[tiny cave]

Yo

What if

They planned about giving ranked skins

For every character

And thats why theres a ||galactic Jason|| skin that got leaked

Would be cool if they give You that skin for being master

[void topaz]

Where at?

[tiny cave]

Twitter

[void topaz]

DM me the link

plz

[west cloak]

Nah it’s probably a skin for an upcoming event

They did that with Matrix skins

[tiny cave]

Would be cool as a Master skin tho bc Master icon has the same color

[tiny cave]

I cant find them rn maybe they banned the account

But theres probably videos on yt or something

[void topaz]

I was just looking and couldnt find it anywhere

[dry slate]

It'll only last a week

[void topaz]

Never tell me the odds

If i get paddleboard jerry looped for 80% one more time I may eat my monitor

[tiny cave]

https://youtu.be/aSiqekUV3Bw?si=U91Zt5M6NYDC5QQC

6:39

[void topaz]

gotcha. I see what you mean. It is really lame that they only made skins for Samurai Jack for Masters.

Im a masters Jason and would love a skin to flex that I did that but oh well

[tiny cave]

True

I just hope

The galaxy skins

Will be free

Like the neon skins

[thorn wing]

jason mains are so fun to fight against

those combos are sick and i love the map control with hatchet where you drag someone back to the edge if they try to escape lol

[tulip plaza]

most of the, what I call "for everyone" skins have been free (or a free way to get one), so I assume it will be too
circuit crew, shark hat, matrix code

[feral cargo]

We appreciate your respect

[tiny cave]

Depends a Lot on playstyle

[thorn wing]

Jason the only respectable character in this game lol I stg. I don’t even respect my own character anymore

[feral cargo]

who do you play 😂 ? I'm a double main. T&J since tech test and Jason since he released

I'm a big cartoon guy if it wasn't obvious with my name

[tiny cave]

True

Specially finns

I like to bully them for trying to do always the same thing

[lapis meteor]

#clips message

amazing hitbox

[thorn wing]

Finns that camp are my worst enemy. Like what u even got to lose bruh how am I gonna touch you

[tiny cave]

I hate finns in general

Why does he Even have autoaim in one of his attacks

Bro?

#clips message

[lapis meteor]

it doesnt hit when uncharged neither btw

[thorn wing]

That’s what I’m saying. Like even the Finn’s don’t know if it’s gonna hit cuz they always follow through on it anyways 💀

They just pray to god it hits and they kill you at 60

[lapis meteor]

also means that if the enemy where to land inside,he is completly inmune :)

[tiny cave]

Even worst

And why he can hold the sword for like forever

[thorn wing]

The worst is when they miss and you’re like “oh I’ll punish” but they already are charging it up again

[tiny cave]

They don't have any limitations he is one of the most broken characters but at the same time they are a joke

#clips message

Lol

[thorn wing]

God that looks so satisfying lol

Bro never learned his lesson

[fickle ledge]

Aerial combos

But imma be fr removing the homing feels like the first thing they should do considering the reward on hit.

[fickle ledge]

It takes talent to get hit by that many dairs in a row.

What a player 🫡

[tiny cave]

#clips message

[analog portal]

Fyi Tooniverse Jason is 20% off rn

[fickle ledge]

Based.

[analog portal]

Just picked him up, now I've got all the Jason skins

[radiant nexus]

Is it worth it

[atomic cedar]

WHY DID MY DODGE STOP WORKING

[analog portal]

Its one of the better tooniverse skins I think

But it is still a tooniverse skin

[tiny cave]

i bought him just to have every skin even tho i main jason X

[analog portal]

Same

Uber Jason is my second favorite skin in the game

Its so good

[radiant nexus]

I need more Jason skins

I want a swampy/rotten look from Manhattan

Savini

Part 2

Jason goes to Hell look

[analog portal]

Swampy

Bag head

[radiant nexus]

Obviously just an unmasked version would go hard

[lapis meteor]

We are getting bettle juice skin tho

[radiant nexus]

Assuming they change the current face model for it

[radiant nexus]

I’m talking original skins

[lapis meteor]

Well, more like Brickwalljuice

[analog portal]

That one is very ehhhhh

A cyber Jason skin would have been so good

[radiant nexus]

It’s cool but nothing special

[radiant nexus]

Yes

[lapis meteor]

Am still mad we didnt got a drone skin for jason

[analog portal]

I don't mind the current face but it could stand more roughing up

[radiant nexus]

I’m assuming this is pre zombie Jason

So that’s fine to me

[lapis meteor]

Hear me out

Michael miers colour pallete skin

[radiant nexus]

But I really want them to go further and make him nasty

[lapis meteor]

[radiant nexus]

Part 2 Jason be like

[lapis meteor]

I can alredy see the trailer of Michael miers

Its just jason being bullied and so he needs to call his homie :trollos:

[radiant nexus]

I don’t think Warner Bros owns Micheal

Maybe they do

I thought it was Universal

[tulip plaza]

hard to tell who owns who sometimes

[radiant nexus]

like Jason cough cough

[analog portal]

There's no bundle in the files for Jason's skin so it'll probably be a free skin too

Nice to have the confirmation considering its not guaranteed as the 20XX skins show

[radiant nexus]

I’m hoping he gets anything besides the generic skins

He needs some tlc

[analog portal]

He hasn't gotten a skin since launch, hopefully he gets anything

[lapis meteor]

Warner doesnt own jason either, its just partial rights

[tiny cave]

or a cyberpunk skin

[radiant nexus]

Hoping it’s not an issue with liscensing

But it probably is

They probably only signed on for season 1

[lapis meteor]

Doubt, again, Warner does own Partial rights

[analog portal]

Well we have a season 2 skin

[tiny cave]

the pre zombie also had his face messed up

i wish they make a jason emote where he takes off the mask like in part 8

[lapis meteor]

Again

I doubt it would be that bad to simply reference michael miers in a jason coloue scheme skin

[tiny cave]

like the emote where shaggy takes off the shirt

[tiny cave]

and when you use it again he puts the mask on again

[radiant nexus]

But it’s not an original one

That’s what they probably have issues with

[analog portal]

Could be

[radiant nexus]

Uniques, referencing skins

[tiny cave]

more like original we could say canon

[tulip plaza]

in my head I imagine a taunt very close to the shaggy rip now
jason takes the mask off and then crushes it with one hand

[formal dirge]

which one?

[tiny cave]

that would be pretty cool

[analog portal]

Beetlejuice

[lapis meteor]

Better

A shy guy like taunt

Jason drops his mask, while his face is off screen

And he tries to pick it up asap

[tiny cave]

also they should added pamela as jasons voice lines

[lapis meteor]

Imo Pamela would be a great voice pack tho

[radiant nexus]

should’ve been his voice from the beginning

[tulip plaza]

that would be a fun one too
I'd actually love to see that as a rift cutscene, someone working with/fleeing from jason sees his face but we don't

[analog portal]

I want that pack

[fickle ledge]

TBH that Jason was next level ugly.
I'd love to see a maskless Jason alt tho, not sure if they wanna try their hand at it or not.

[radiant nexus]

Might mess with the rating

Might not

[formal dirge]

mb i forgot that one

[tulip plaza]

its so hard to tell what could mess with the mvs rating considering what kinda stuff is in/is referenced in the game

[analog portal]

Yeah like the dead body in a bag

[tiny cave]

and the interactions would be pamela just telling jason how good boy he is and telling him to kill them or stuff like "mommy knows you dont like rabbits " as a bugs bunny interaction like in his reveal trailer

[radiant nexus]

Rick and Morty leads me to think very little is “not allowed”, but they and many other things are really watered down

So it’s hard to tell

[tulip plaza]

and his weapons very much have dried blood on them in game
and of course all that jason crunchy sound design

maybe its rust tho

hard to tell for sure with a man like jason

[radiant nexus]

I think it’s blood

[analog portal]

I've been using the uber jason skin for like a month so I don't remember that lol

[radiant nexus]

Since rust looks a good bit different

[fickle ledge]

Teen rating fr.

We should be able to get away with a face only a mother could love.

[tulip plaza]

I think uber jasons weapons are very clean, but if you look at normal jason machete you'll see it

[radiant nexus]

Uber Jason lore wise existed for about 20 minutes so nothing he had was used

So his stuff is clean

[tulip plaza]

clean in many ways, love those designs on the axe and machete

[analog portal]

I googled it, I think its rust

[radiant nexus]

The sound design on Jason is genuinely amazing

They nailed him

[tiny cave]

i mean theres swearings in the game so i think they maybe can do a maskless version of jason

obviously not part 9

but the default jason

[radiant nexus]

What was part 9

I forgot

[tiny cave]

jason goes to hell

[radiant nexus]

Ah

That I do want as a skin

[tulip plaza]

I've said it before, but I love that jason doesn't feel censored in this game
besides obviously people not bleeding out when he stabs them

[radiant nexus]

That movie did suck tho

[tiny cave]

all i ask is for them to add pamela as both jasons voice and announcer pack

[radiant nexus]

My friend found it really funny playing against Jason for the first time, since Jason just wants you dead

[tiny cave]

and having pamela interacting with some characters

[tiny cave]

.

[radiant nexus]

She’d probably have some lines directed against the teenage characters like Arya or Morty

[fickle ledge]

"Kill them Jason, Kill them"

The them in question:

[radiant nexus]

Beetlejuice probably gets along with Jason, both being dead and all

Jason having been dead I suppose

[tulip plaza]

I love that agent smith kinda
I'll say likes jason
being so "inhuman"

[analog portal]

Deserved

[tulip plaza]

"your lack of humanity places you above them"

[analog portal]

Not yet

[radiant nexus]

?

[vague belfry]

Let's see what that blade can do

[tiny cave]

they are gonna add a crystal lake map in the future so theres still hope we can have pamela voicing jason

[fickle ledge]

Jason might get a long with Bubbles if she wears a nice grey sweater.

[tulip plaza]

they should add a "undead" tag
I mean, we have the black lanterns and now jason and beetlejuice, I think it only makes sense

[radiant nexus]

They’re probably waiting for skins for him then so he has some hype

[analog portal]

We don't need more tagsss

[tulip plaza]

true I suppose

[radiant nexus]

Though it does make sense

[tulip plaza]

I'm still excited for beetlejuice
I have his lego minifig in a display case on my desk, ready to provide me power for when I play as him in mvs pff

[tiny cave]

im hoping for beetlejason to be free

half cyber event items have glemium like bruh

this event makes no sense

[analog portal]

He'll probably be 6k fc

I've been saving up for him

[tulip plaza]

it does suck all those skins are glemium except for just rick and morty
like cmon, gimme at least one other free one

[analog portal]

My money is on him dropping end of this month, early next

[radiant nexus]

Apparently there’s a currency for him

And he’ll release with the next rift

[tulip plaza]

I hope beetlejuice drops like, next week, but its probably gonna be with the next rift since he'll very much be in it

[tiny cave]

you mean beetlejuice i was talking about beetlejason

[analog portal]

Another event currency

[radiant nexus]

Yes

[analog portal]

Oh yeah

[radiant nexus]

Specifically to get Beetlejuice

[analog portal]

I'm sure he's free

I wonder if they'll just have him at the end of the rift rewards for one rift

[tiny cave]

i hope its not gonna be like the cyberbucks and be a ticket like the drone chip and medals

cyber event sucks

[analog portal]

Yeah it looks like it is

[radiant nexus]

I just want Beetlejuice to be fun

And not a bruiser

[analog portal]

He looks like a mage

[radiant nexus]

It would be funny if he was an assassin

[tulip plaza]

just like marvin
looks like they should be a mage but is an assassin

[feral cargo]

Parrying samurai jack players when they wanna spam side special and then watching them resort to basic attack and the follow up is beautiful

they lose all sense of purpose when that move doesn't work

[tiny cave]

I'm top 46 jasons

Bro

I just got to diamond V

And My first match

Was against a MASTER 1

Stripe

[analog portal]

I'm hoping to get top 100

Rn I'm at 500

[tiny cave]

1

[analog portal]

I need to get to diamond for top 100 last I checked and I'm Gold 2 so it'll take a bit

[analog portal]

Thats match making for you

[tiny cave]

They gotta fix matchmaking

Literally the first match was against top 1 stripe

Actually he was top 2 stripes

I'm not Even joking

Lol

[feral cargo]

I've got a match to send you guys because it was just too funny

[tiny cave]

Men

The change of difficulty between platinum and diamond

Is HUGE

Platinum was full of spammers

At least for me

I got to go all the way to diamond to find actually good players

[feral cargo]

i'm in gold with a lot of spamming Samurai Jacks but i'm managing almost at plat

[tiny cave]

My platinum experience was full of finns

Literally

It was just finns

The most i fought

Was finns

And they all spammed the same annoying combo

[feral cargo]

#clips message

[tiny cave]

And dash

I got carried by some of them

Crazy how You can get to the 3rd highest rank in this game

Just spamming

And i discovered how to counter some competent aryas

[feral cargo]

i get hit by the sword throw use rsge and bed when she starts flying in

[tiny cave]

Jacks are easy to punish

You just gotta learn when to dodge

The Best way of counter him is using rage when he gets full concentration

If he tries to hit You with the fully concentration side special You can use the bed and rage to counter him

[lapis meteor]

Brickwalljuice*

Or also

Steroid juice

Or also

Hercules BeetleJuice

[feral cargo]

I just let em throw it out so I can parry it

and then have fun

[tiny cave]

am i the only one who thinks

that jason is probably a bad matchup for samurai jack

[median geyser]

I've said it before but yeah

He's cooked by Jack completely thanks to his DIs & ground hitting moves

You've to play 3x harder vs Jack if you're playing as Jason

Another main issue of Jason is big & wide maps

So many people playing cowardly & let Jason become a victim himself

[tiny cave]

A Jack is cooked against a good Jason

Something good Jason has is his rage

And his fully charged rage can counter half of jacks moveset

So he could Say Jason is a Bad matchup for samurai jack

And samurai Jack is a very punisheable character

And Jason is a very good character punishing

Since You have to read your oponent

Both of them are balanced if it wasnt for jacks exagerated hitboxes

[median geyser]

His moves are like just fairly annoying sometimes

& the fact that it's a lot tougher to parry fs

[tiny cave]

You can parry jacks side specials

[median geyser]

At the same time, you whiffed, it's done... rage is matter of skill this point

[tiny cave]

Yeah

But thats what i said

Samurai Jack against a good Jason it's actually a Bad matchup

They both are very well balanced

And Jason has rage which counter a Lot of things from jack

[median geyser]

Unless you compare them both with good equally skilled players then it's still a different story

[tiny cave]

Samurai Jack is a ledge focused character

[tiny cave]

I mean

Samurai Jack and Jason is a good combat

Neither of them are broken

[median geyser]

Jason has good ledging tools too... his rage mostly jebaited people

[tiny cave]

Yeah

They both are pretty good at camping

[median geyser]

I feel like Jack's just rough when you play as Jason overall...

[tiny cave]

Idk

I'm kinda used to jacks mechanics

Since day 1

You can punish him very easily if he tries to use the side special

[median geyser]

I'm still getting used to it...

[tiny cave]

I can give You a tip and his side special has a sound cue, You can use that at your favor

So You know when to dodge

[median geyser]

Yeah that...

Some some of wheezing blade sound

[tiny cave]

Yeah

You can Dodge that only with the sound cue

[median geyser]

Right

[tiny cave]

I use that sound for timings

[median geyser]

That's good

[tiny cave]

If ur timing the side special sound

You cant fail a dodge

[median geyser]

Also what are possible parry punishes?

Like after parrying, what can you do?

[tiny cave]

You can parry side special

You can also use the sound

For that

Never tried it tho

I never parry bc i don't Even know how

And i never risk it

[median geyser]

Yes but after parrying, what you can do while opponent immobilized?

[tiny cave]

Up special

[median geyser]

Keep missing that for whatever reasons or side special does work...

Mist*

Jason does struggle wider maps as well

[tiny cave]

Thats true

The better map You can play as Jason is cromulons

Jason has a loop specificly in that map

[median geyser]

Man I fricking hate Smiths...

They keep waiting for you to attack & dodge

Then jabs jabs

[rose haven]

What is said loop :0

[tiny cave]

You can hit the oponent against the wall

With jab jab teleport

Wall

Jab jab teleport

You can hit him against the wall until like 60% or something

[analog portal]

Absolutely not. Jack wins that fight.

[tiny cave]

I hope they fix Jack hitboxes

Also i think Jason has bad hitboxes

Like sometimes i hit with the tip of the machete and doesnt hit

Bro why i'm still getting matched with spammers finns

In diamond rank

The nightmare is never ending

Ranked takes no skill

At all

Its crazy how Even the highest rank in the Game has spammers

I thpught after platinum there would be actually good players

[analog portal]

Yeah his jab hitboxes suck

[timber cedar]

they play Finn so they just kinda get carried into higher ranks

[tiny cave]

Spamming all the way to Master is crazy

I'm not playing ranked anymore

I'm staying in diamond

[timber cedar]

yea after diamond it just becomes a hellhole

lose once you nearly derank

[formal dirge]

true ( as a master jack )

[tiny cave]

Im getting matched with spammers since bronze

I thought when i got to diamonds they would be stucked and got matched with actually good players but holy

[timber cedar]

they wouldn’t do it if it didn’t work

some people just don’t know how to fight spamming

[tiny cave]

Finn is just unpunishable

Idk how

I can barely punish him

[timber cedar]

that mf doesn’t have whiff frames

[lapis meteor]

No one has whiff frames in this game but jason

Ww are playing a smash character

😭

[tiny cave]

I swear i spended the whole platinum dealing with finns

A Lot of them

[timber cedar]

Finn’s easy and strong

[lapis meteor]

Yesterday i played 11 times and 7 of em were T&J

[tiny cave]

Idk how to counter them

Some are dumb and some of them actually have enough neurons to read some of your attacks and spamming at the same time

[lapis meteor]

Oh wow, its almost like spsm in this game is extremly rewarding

Crazy isnt it

[tiny cave]

#clips message

[lapis meteor]

[tiny cave]

Not this one for sure

[timber cedar]

I just dc before the match if I’m playing a low tier against finn

doesn’t take away points if it’s my first dc

[tiny cave]

Dont You get punished for doing that?

[timber cedar]

not if the match doesn’t start

[tiny cave]

Thank god

I spended the whole platinum dealing with finns

At this point is stressfull just seeing them

[timber cedar]

wait no you do lose points it’s just less than if you actually played the match

I think it’s like 10

[tiny cave]

Then im staying diamond

I don't Main Jack anyways

And im top 42 out of all jasons

I'm good

I wish they add attack decay

And if You for some reason

Got affected by that in a ranked

You loose points

[timber cedar]

all they needed to do was remove the loud sound effect for attack decay

[tiny cave]

Finn is the most no skill character ever

He has the annoying 0 to death combo

He can hold everything

And he has autoaim

Like why

Autoaim

Genuinely finn is Made for bots

[rancid schooner]

yeah aint gonna lie finn is made for the brain broken

[lapis meteor]

Or maybe jason is just bad and has a lot of bad matchups, idk

[feral cargo]

Learn to parry the slash and you should be golden off that alone. You'll either parry it each time or they'll stop spamming it

It's funny when they don't know what else to do after getting parried each time they go for it 3 times in a row 😂

They start spamming jab more though. My go to for that is to jump but it catches me everytime so..

After learning to parry it you'll just have to worry about the up air kick and his jab. Maybe Axe grab them more when they try dodging above you especially if they don't have dodge meter

Make them suffer my fellow Jason players

They think the matchup is theirs, but it's actually ours (if you can parry the slash and not get hit each time if not ggs)

Marvin feels like an L matchup for Jason. Though I don't fight enough of them to figure out how he works and all so it's almost free on me

[analog portal]

Both

[tiny cave]

I unlocked the cyber rick skin

[analog portal]

I can't decide if I want the Rick or Morty skin, hopefully I'll be able to get both

[ancient wraith]

i hit platinum with jason!!

[spare sparrow]

#winning

[spare sparrow]

Hes the worst matchup for jason

100%

[feral cargo]

Appreciate the input. I get destroyed by them usually but the last one I fought got bodied

[tiny cave]

How do You counter gizmo as jason

So far i fought like 3

And they all just run away during the whole time

And shoot me with the bow

And idk how to escape his combo that combo is almost a 0 to death

[knotty sage]

why does morty earth have the longest hitstun duration in existence

[analog portal]

Projectile shield and teleport would probably help, that's about all I can suggest

[round hamlet]

I hate Marvin so much god

I want to grab that helmet and put it somewhere where the sun doesn't shine

[dry slate]

I hope batman's contingency plan against himself is used in the future sometime soon

No need for him to ladder Jason and kill him at 50. With dodges saying they dodge but not actually dodging, non-true combos may as well be true with Jason

[fair bluff]

What perks do you guys usually use as Jason?

[round hamlet]

tree fort too

I hate tree fort so much

Why is that map in the game

It's the size of a ant

I literally can't avoid anything he sents my way because I have no room whatsoever

[knotty sage]

tbh i hate the daytime space jam the most

[round hamlet]

I literally hit him with jab and he just avoids it because he's smaller than my hitbox

Are you serious

[knotty sage]

the amount of times those stupid hoops are just in the way and deny me a kill

[round hamlet]

And he just spams down air over and over again

God I hate him so much

Genuinely the most unfun character in this game to fight I'm being so serious

I do not care if you don't think he's broken if you play him you actually suck

[analog portal]

5%
Snowball
Last stand
Pugilist

Swapping in protective momentum and 2 fast 2 block for match ups that I need em for, ie Tom & Jerry and Wonder Woman

[tulip plaza]

how is jason meant to fight superman
if i get hit by a single pixel of his jab hitbox I am locked into inescapable 80 damage combo

I still don't believe them when they say "skill based matchmaking"
yeah right

[analog portal]

And his ||(arial side special)|| arm is disjointed

[tulip plaza]

everytime I try to play jason, I am given like 20 reasons to regret it
I want to play him, but grrrr

[formal dirge]

yeah..

[void topaz]

Welcome to playing jason

I have 1.8k wins and it doesnt get better

[tulip plaza]

believe me I know
I've been here day one

[void topaz]

Still lose to Finn players chewing on their controllers

[tulip plaza]

if only I could be that epic at finn by chewing on my controller

[analog portal]

If Jason wasn't incredibly addicting no one would ever have a reason to play him.

[tulip plaza]

maybe someday he'll be a real character

[formal dirge]

mid patch i really hope

[dry slate]

His annoying aerial grab is a disjoint???

Mfs better give Jason those damn disjoints. But lemme guess, since he isn't DC, they won't

[analog portal]

Yep

Its basically a free grab

[round hamlet]

How am I supposed to avoid iron giant side special

[analog portal]

(Since its a grab its armor break btw)

[radiant nexus]

I made it to gold 3 in solos

[round hamlet]

I swear to god, he literally comboed me infinitely because of the wall

Why is there no wall tech

[analog portal]

Dodge or die ig

[formal dirge]

u dont

jason and ig are both combo food so it s basically whoever gets the move first ( of course iron giant will )

[analog portal]

Up special might beat it, depends on if it feels like having disjoints

[formal dirge]

tbh best way i think is side air

[analog portal]

I don't fight ig enough to really have a strat

Mostly its just the flow chart of if competent I don't get to play, if not competent he doesn't get to play

Like Heph said, combo food characters

[tulip plaza]

I love being so scary that people make massive blunders and I kill them

#clips message

[analog portal]

Rage into walk around and pester them is one of my favorite strats

[tulip plaza]

it works too!
(usually)

[analog portal]

People just kinda turn off their brains and spam dodge etc

I remember one guy that dodged left and right of me until he burned out and I tried to dodge anyway

[tulip plaza]

I had a clip like that against WW
she used all her dodge and she got da axe

[analog portal]

Burnout + rage my beloved

[tulip plaza]

#clips message

found it

[analog portal]

Very nice. Deserved.

[lapis meteor]

Am probably gonna quit this game until the next balance patch, ngl

Ranked is a absolute joke rn

Am straight up not having fun

[analog portal]

I've played like once in the past few days

And I was only playing because I was actually matching up with people in my rank

Mid season is soon so I hope something big comes from it

[lapis meteor]

Also

Gotta love how jason

HAS NO PASSIVE

The "passive" is a lie, because other means of grey health, dont work

Its all from the neutral special

JOY

[analog portal]

Whats his current passive?

[lapis meteor]

The "Cant recive knockback while having grey health"

Bolony

[tulip plaza]

if I see even one nerf to jason in the next patch, I'll probably stop playing him for awhile
doesn't matter what it is, its the principle of the thing

[lapis meteor]

The fact that they nerfed his jab last update-

#off-topic message

That

If you get grey health by other means (like velma's perk) it doesnt count

[analog portal]

They nerfed it to fix the loop. Why they patched a loop when Joker has like seven 0tDs is beyond me but it wasn't out of nowhere

[knotty sage]

jason is like the last guy who should've gotten his loop patched

[lapis meteor]

It just makes it worse in every way

You cant do jab jab stomp at early%

(the % where it makes sense)

Its basically random when they can dodge away

[knotty sage]

Joker is a DC character

[analog portal]

It was one of the worst loops on a bottom five character man

[lapis meteor]

Without counting that jason has VERY LIMITED COMBOS

Any combo guide on the internet mostly relies on READS

[tulip plaza]

I had a great example of this dc privilege while ironically playing batman
I was fighting a WW, first match I have no trouble
after that, she remembered she was playing WW and I lost the next two games

[lapis meteor]

I swear to god, the jason main they tested this character in, HAD A CRYSTALL BALL

[analog portal]

Testing? Multiversus?

[lapis meteor]

Looptiversus

[analog portal]

Jabversus

[dry slate]

Agent smith got loops on Jason fml

[lapis meteor]

No

[livid agate]

make jason suoerman size

[lapis meteor]

Agent Smith has 0 TO DEATHS ON ALMOST ALL HEAVY WEIGHTS

[lapis meteor]

That would nerf his pathetic range even more

(funny because, quoting the wiki "Fantastic range on the majority of his attacks")

Is it really fantastic range if 80% of your attack still has a hurtbox

[dry slate]

Bro, that "sweet spot" perk is so forgiving. How big is that sweet spot? I know it ain't that damn indicator in front of his gun.

[vague belfry]

Damn this character is fun. Also helps me learn how to better read opponents

[lapis meteor]

It is

Because read will be your everything

[vague belfry]

Exactly. Most of my combos are just jab-jab-up special and then try to read their reaction

Quite a few times things do go very wrong. But when they go right.... Damn

[lapis meteor]

Yep

But a tip from jason to jason

Stay away from rankrd

[vague belfry]

Oh I do. Let the sweaty finns have their fun with their stupid combo. I just play normal 1s

[lapis meteor]

Good

[vagrant merlin]

This is a clip of Jason just up specialing infinitely so enjoy

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/DWNf3SSyzg

[analog portal]

I wish we had a mix between comp and casual. Currently you have to pick between hazards on Mojo Jojo and exclusively playing against top tiers

[vague belfry]

They should just remove townsville with hazards from the ones cue. Just throw it in FFA and give us the normal version

[analog portal]

That too

[spare sparrow]

finaLLY IN master.s

[tiny cave]

proyectile shield

and armor against finns

one that gives you armor after respawning

[tiny cave]

#clips message

jason pro tip for arya:

when you throw an arya off the edge

let her throw her knife at you

then activate rage

and wait for her to teleport at you

then use bed

[minor radish]

What does that knife even do

[tiny cave]

She can throw a knife

That makes her teleport to where the knife is

#clips message

0:44

And here is how to counter it

1:35

[wide shale]

you can actually jump and air grab him with neutral special, but you have to be high enough to have the lower half of your giant hand grab him, otherwise you'll lose the exchange

#clips message this image kinda shows what i'm talking about

there's a disjoint on the bottom part of the hand that works against that stupid IG shoulder charge

[lapis meteor]

Oh my lord, the hurtbox is even worse than i expected

Jesus freaking christ is so bad

[wide shale]

that was from many patches ago, they've since removed the ability to see the hitboxes easily so i can't go and compare today

but i'm pretty sure hit giant beachball hurtbox hands are still there

[lapis meteor]

Oof

[knotty sage]

i think they only said they changed jab hitboxes

[lapis meteor]

Wait, you are the one responsible for the hitboxs videos on youtube or-

[wide shale]

nah i just did jason and shared it on the discord

someone else did all the youtube ones

[lapis meteor]

Damn

[wide shale]

#clips message

keep in mind these are all old patch hitboxes, before he got moore active frames on some moves

[tiny cave]

If they buff Jason i hope they buff sleep bag

[dry slate]

Jason having a middle finger hurtbox the size of mars

[tiny cave]

Is there a way to see that?

[wide shale]

not anymore without some more advanced stuff

it used to be a simple value change in a cfg file

but PFG patched that out

[dry slate]

I still hate PFG for that

[wide shale]

now you'd probably need to hook in to the game to enable it, kinda like this #clips message

[lapis meteor]

Jason's grab hitbox screams "ME WHEN I FREAKING GET YOU"

[vague belfry]

Yeah I get he was introduced after the unreal 5 upgrade but man it's like they completely went back on the hitbox changes during beta

[tiny cave]

Idk why

I noticed hitboxes have become worse

After season 2

With every character

Not only Jason and jack

I didnt remember season 1 having so bad hitboxes

How many interactions does Jason have?

[tulip plaza]

maybe I'm crazy but jason felt better to play before the mid season patch
ever since that patch he's just felt worse
maybe its just people picking up top tiers more or something else but that's how I've felt

[tulip plaza]

well I know Smith and Bugs have lines for Jason, oh and Rick
trying to think if anyone else had jason specific interactions

[dry slate]

Bro, I swear that Jack is missing his feet hurtboxes

[lapis meteor]

He isnt, the robe just makes it confusing

If you play against oneyof the robeless skins, it feels better

[tiny cave]

I think Finn also has one

He Even have a interaction specificly with Jason X

[dry slate]

No, anytime he extends his foot out, dash attack, jab, literally just falling through the air, my machete and axe will always phase through it, trade, or just be ignored and get hit

[tiny cave]

I remember Finn having a unique interaction only with Jason X skin

[lapis meteor]

That is our character just being trash 😭

[tiny cave]

I feel better with Jason now than before

But yeah

In ranked im only getting matched with finns

Aryas

[lapis meteor]

T&J

[tiny cave]

Supermans (he has a loop combo with Jason)

That makes like almost 60 damage

[lapis meteor]

Without counting that jason has to do a lot of gymnastics to counter the flight

[tiny cave]

Mortys also

[atomic cedar]

I hate Finn

[lapis meteor]

"YOU ARE HURTING THE ECONOMY"

-Pfg when asked to give jason disjoints

[atomic cedar]

i have a theory that they refuse to improve jason at all because he was free for all beta players

[vague belfry]

I mean banana guard was free to everyone and he hasn't been doing too well either lol

[atomic cedar]

extra evidence my beloved

[lapis meteor]

Banana guard at least has bs in his side 😭

(i love the hitbox of his dash extending behind him + the attack being strong even while its ending)

[vague belfry]

That's another thing I hate about this game. Most attacks have a single hitbox and no sourspots or weak hits for unusual angles

Saw a clip of Jason hitting someone behind him with his neutral attack and he get clobbered

[wide shale]

happens allll the time, its the worst feeling

you read their jab, dodge behind them, try to jab them, and you just get sucked back in to their jab

i dash attacked a tom in the back that was dash attacking away from me and his won

[tiny cave]

Also velma has unique interactions with jason

I think its just one

Where she says she DOESNT want to unmask him

[tulip plaza]

its always surprising just how many interactions are in this game, sometimes just one line that only plays during a specific move vs a specific character, so its hard to know who interacts with who sometimes

[tiny cave]

Yeah (excepting Jason)

He doesnt have many unique interactions

Just like 4 characters interact with him

Bugs

Rick

Velma has only one

Smith but only when teaming

And idk who else

I remember Finn having a interaction only with Jason X skin

He calls Jason a "rocky man" (refering to uber jason) or something like that

And velma says that she doesnt want to unmask jason

[lapis meteor]

Does the dog speak?

[tiny cave]

I mean interactions with him

Not him talking

[lapis meteor]

Oh

Darn

Imagine a skin that is just like

Anti jason

And he is allowed to speak

Evil jason be like:

Nvm, text to long

[tiny cave]

I wish they add pamela

Jason feels kinda boring if we talking about intros

They could added pamela

And she interacting with characters and giving commands to jason and also giving him motivation

That would give him so much personality

He doesnt Even do the "ki ki ki ma ma ma"

He just makes that sound after being ringout or when You select him

They wasted a Lot of potential

I can imagine some interactions of Pamela and characters like tom and jerry

Or Bugs

Or Even morty

Jasons interactions just feel

Dissapointing

Ngl

All i ask is a voice for him

[tiny cave]

I think Jack does interact with Jason but theres a bug for some jack dialogues and You can only see the subtitle but theres no voice audio

[tulip plaza]

a shame there are no wikis that have all the updated audio
I was browsing the multiversus wikigg for awhile but no everyone is updated
crazy how they have jacks voice lines but non of rick or morty new ones from the full launch pfft
but now that I think yeah, Jack didn't have any lines on his page for jason so who knows

[tiny cave]

https://youtu.be/-hctefIkB8c?si=OALQvzR8ljiOGRsh

[devout burrow]

master rank poggers

[analog portal]

I like that he doesn't have a voice

Means I hear less repetitive voicelines

[analog portal]

I see what people mean about the bag being good in 2s lmao
#clips message

[tiny cave]

Yeah kinda

But i prefer having pamela motivating and giving commands to jason

Thats his motivation after all

And having her interacting with some other characters

Like morty

Arya

Steven

Bugs bc the trailer says Jason is a rabbit hater

[lapis meteor]

Pamela just makes sense as 2 things

Announcer pack

Or

Whst pokemon trainer/Doc louis is to the Pokemons/little mac in smash

[dry slate]

She would have some choice words for Morty, considering he is basically Jason's main target

[lapis meteor]

Why?

[formal dirge]

he s a kid

[lapis meteor]

[knotty sage]

hes a teenager who is into suggestive content

[lapis meteor]

Oh, that makes more sense

(finn to an extent as well then)

[knotty sage]

finn isnt as extreme about it tho

its a personality trait for morty

[tiny cave]

I got an idea for a perk

Imagine if theres a perk called "kill for mother"

That when You get ringout once the oponent gets X2 weakened after respawning

[formal dirge]

idk sounds broken a bit

especially in 2s

but i like the concept

maybe not a full stack weakened but something else

[tiny cave]

Maybe they can make perks only for specific modes

[formal dirge]

my opinion is that like in ow2, they should have diff balances for both 1s and 2s ( i get it s a bunch of work but this thing is the reason people think Jack is broken )

[tiny cave]

Jack can only be broken in 2s

[formal dirge]

indeed

but if they nerf him, he will be ultra trash in 1s

but tbh the best thing they could do is just remove the samurai mark

that s the only thing which makes him busted in 2s ( side special too but giving weakened for free is a lot worse than that move )

[flint tide]

they already make perks for specific modes only

well technically its just 2v2 only there are no 1v1 only perks

[formal dirge]

that s true

[tiny cave]

I mean having perks in one mode while blocking them in other modes

[tiny cave]

So if for example this was a thing

[warm reef]

What move can counter tornado

[tiny cave]

You could only use it in 1v1

[tiny cave]

Rage

[flint tide]

sometimes upspecial

but generally you can't outright challenge it

you have to get out of the way, rage through it if possible

and at specific areas you can upspecial

upspecial will sometimes trade with it instead of beating it but tbh, thats still good

because it gets him out of it regardless and doesn't do much damage to you beyond the first hit connecting

you can also hit him with jab at proper spacing if he's coming at you from the ground with it

upspecial is also good because taz's aerial attacks are very storng

in general it's a good option vs him

[tiny cave]

Axe slam can also trade i think

[flint tide]

not very consistent

upspecial is better

[warm reef]

From my experience it’s 50/50

[tiny cave]

Like You can only use it in a certain mode

While the others are blocked if You have that perk

And if You try to use it it automatically switchs to the 5% perk

[tiny cave]

Or give You rage

[flint tide]

Thats why i say sometimes if the spacing is right

There isn’t a good consistent way to beat it

Your best bet is just teleport away from it if possible

[lapis meteor]

Idea to fix resurrectionist:

Appears as "generalist" on the perk selection screen (aka, is hidden for the enemies)

Once knocked out, you get 1.5 seconds to select where to resurrect

ANYWHERE On the map

[tiny cave]

That sounds way cooler than the actual perk

[dry slate]

That genuinely sounds so cool ngl

[tiny cave]

AM i the only one who thinks parry should be easier?

I still dont know how to do that like its extremely hard

[round hamlet]

You have to do it a second before the attack actually hits you for the full animation to play out

Which is incredibly stupid

It should be something like perfect parry on sonic frontiers where you can hold it for a second to parry the attack

[lapis meteor]

Nah, its effectibly the same

Just with control of where you respawn, and the enemy not knowing you have that perk

[formal dirge]

that s actually a lot better

[tiny cave]

Thats a Lot better

Or maybe You could do that

But instead of resurrectionist

Another perk

That let You select

Where to teleport

When use the side special

[round hamlet]

I'm so close to platinum
Gold 1

[lapis meteor]

I think it fits ressurectionist better since its like a jumpscare

And a jumpscare doenst get u twice

[tiny cave]

That would be broken tho

[lapis meteor]

Obviusly

[tiny cave]

Maybe

They can do that

But only when u have more than 100 damage

But the teleport doesnt make damage

Just like rick side

[lapis meteor]

Ngl

Am actually mad that jason didnt got a hockey player outfit

Like, the idea is right there

Couldnt be more obvious

Replacing the axe with a hockey stick too

[round hamlet]

Jason hasn't gotten a single skin since release

I have no idea how

Jack got 2 skins on release and he's a bp character makes no sense

[lapis meteor]

Technically both got the same amount of skins

[river delta]

Matrix Code was after release

[round hamlet]

No it wasn't

It was in the bp

[river delta]

...Oh I thought it was in one of the events. Hm

Anyway I assume he'll get some skins eventually. It's kinda weird he keeps skipping the event skins. I wonder if the character is harder to negotiate for since WB doesn't own the entire franchise

[atomic cedar]

Ngl

I understand the complaints about jack’s hitboxes

His stupid foot hits like 3 feet away from where his foot is

[tiny cave]

I didnt think about it

They should added Jason to the medal event

[lapis meteor]

I mean, jason would make a heck of a Goalkeeper

[tiny cave]

#clips message

0:22

that was a parry

[analog portal]

Parrying with Jason specifically is harder. Its more reliable to parry something behind you. Or at least so I'm told

[tiny cave]

That gives me another reason to hate finn

[analog portal]

So true

[dry slate]

Jason jolts back, making parrying from the front harder since he just backs away from the opponent

[analog portal]

Ahhh. Makes sense

Thank you.

[dry slate]

Here's a visual of it: #clips message

I know you said it makes sense, but a visual is always nice

[lucid kayak]

this is a myth, his hurtbox doesnt shift far enough during the parry timing window for it to matter

[analog portal]

Indeed, thanks

[analog portal]

Good to know.

[radiant nexus]

So do we all agree rage should be buffed, along with the road

[atomic cedar]

I think Jason shouldn’t need rage to get armor

But if that is the only way we’re getting armor yes

Oh my GOD why is the gizmo matchup so hellish

[vague belfry]

Because they all just camp with arrow and he also has the car

[atomic cedar]

And he’s so short that half my moves feel like they miss him

[vague belfry]

This too. Not even defensive momentum can save me against those buggers

[tiny cave]

worst matchup by FAR

they all just run away from you

and his hitbox its the size of a smurf

[dry slate]

Just beat a T&J in ranked that had a 1,000 wins. Feels gooood

Any of you Temp-0142498?

[tiny cave]

what is that

[dry slate]

A username. Met a Jason in casual 1v1 with like 1.4k wins and was wondering if thwy was here

[tiny cave]

i have 1181 wins

[dry slate]

Noice. I'm about est~ 100 wins away from 1K

[tiny cave]

i got banned 4 mins W servers

[median geyser]

Same here

W mfing servers

[tiny cave]

I'm blocking every single finn i see

[tiny cave]

Bro i been playing this Game since re launch and i just realise

If You

Dodge and at the sane time You use neutral attack

While wolding W

You use the air axe slam

In ground

The same thing if You use Dodge and ground up at the same time he uses the machete instead of the bed

[formal dirge]

that s IAD

[warm reef]

For Jason imo yeah since he’s a big boy that can get put into combos other characters can’t be put into he should have a bigger parry window

Like that lebron infinite combo that got him nerfed they could’ve made it where Jason could get out of those a bit easier with parry instead of nerfing lebron

Less hitstun would make Jason hated even more

How is he hated

Imo he’s not that good of a character unless you can read

The only things that gives Jason a chance is reads or if they make a lot of mistakes

So either you gotta be really good with reads or good with punishing

[flint tide]

hes like

ok

unless you fight one of his very bad matchups

[warm reef]

He’s kinda fine

[spare sparrow]

this is an iad

[flint tide]

which he has a few of characters who just invalidate him

[spare sparrow]

Nah finn is easy

[warm reef]

Almost every one that’s being played in rank

[spare sparrow]

whos complaining about finn

[flint tide]

i never said finn

[spare sparrow]

not you

[flint tide]

finn isn't as bad as people make him out to be

but if im fighting like

gizmo

joker

[spare sparrow]

marvin

[flint tide]

marvin

like

lol

[warm reef]

I agree but Finn can still out range Jason in some attacks so I play more passive and like I said earlier

You gotta be good at punishing

[flint tide]

yea

i mean finn does beat jason i think its just not like

that bad

[spare sparrow]

or AS bad

as the other ones

[flint tide]

you can kill him if you understand how he plays

[spare sparrow]

genuinely i sigh relief when i see finn

[warm reef]

But if you’re at 20% you’re mostly screwed if he has that coin perk and didn’t waste any yet

[flint tide]

yeah i never lose to finn

i used to like

constantly run into the rank 2 or 3 finn

until i just learned the matchup so well i just

[spare sparrow]

dashher08?

[flint tide]

stopped losing to him

yes

i LITERALLY

always run into him

that EXACT guy

like almost every time i played ranked

idk why

[spare sparrow]

yeah we're both eu i think

hes like one of the only top finns in eu

[warm reef]

That dude is kinda booty because I’ve played against them before

Haven’t lost yet

[spare sparrow]

yeah he might just suck vs jason

anyways

my wisdom to jason mains:

Sometimes edgeguard with side special, while raged

trust me its genius

[warm reef]

I lose to Finn’s who know how to play against Jason and play more defensively making it where I need to use rage more

It’s 50/50 on those matches

[spare sparrow]

yeeeeahh

[flint tide]

vs people like that i think you yourself need to be very patient

and make reads on how they like to charge and release their moves in neutral