Jason

[honest yoke]

Actually I'm gonna go record all his hitboxes rn

So I can compare after

[west cloak]

That’s a good idea

[odd oyster]

I'm still trying to figure out what the best gameplan is with hin

[flint tide]

forgot who it was but whoever said you can cancel monstrous sidestep was unfortunately mistaken

testing it now

doesn't work

[scenic lagoon]

Half an hour until maintenance

[tulip plaza]

so excited for this update
jason may finally be a character!

[fading vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/st6-jason-hockey-mask-scary-gif-13940988

[honest yoke]

Yeah sair only has 4 active frames

So it's pretty bad for dodge reads

[flint tide]

how active is grab?

[scenic lagoon]

Maintenance

They told us to touch grass 💀

[tulip plaza]

I would but its too hot outside

[wheat lotus]

66% humidity on a 90 degree day over here

[scenic lagoon]

Bro I'd die

I know it's degrees Fahrenheit

But if it was Celsius

[halcyon badger]

Is the blue his hurtbox?

[west cloak]

Yeah

Red is the grab hitbox

[median geyser]

Bored to death

[halcyon badger]

That’s just insane lol

[languid harbor]

Cant wait for Jason to say "It's Uber time" and then takes an Uber to multiversus

[west cloak]

My Jason already took an Uber to Multiversus

[languid harbor]

Lucky

Im super close

[fickle ledge]

See that's what makes the perk actually hype.

[west cloak]

I mean, I’ve played about 130 hours lmao

[languid harbor]

Im on the part to get the gleamium before the skin

Im at 63 hours i think

[west cloak]

I can only tell because Steam directly tells me

[idle wolf]

How you guys feel about Agent Smith?

10GB update holy

[languid harbor]

He looks very cool

[timber cedar]

god forbid we don’t cover up that one finger

[rapid cargo]

Jason got a BIG finger

[west cloak]

What if his machete is just a big finger?

[halcyon badger]

The game looks so beautiful now without the ugly highlights n tint

[flint tide]

Patch out?

[halcyon badger]

Yeah

[stable matrix]

GIYS JASONS NEW ICON IS SO COOL

[dire violet]

I was hoping they may have secretly fixed his parry issues but, nah

[flint tide]

rick jab probably still beats rage for some reason

is what it is

oh wonderful training mode reset takes 30 years now

oh

new jason bug

upspecial into immediate dash cancel just breaks the game like velma

wonderful

nvm not even dash cancel

lmaooo

upspecial into spam jab for free wins with jason

wonderful

[honest yoke]

ok so i found a couple new combo routes already

nair can be combo'd into now

[flint tide]

gotta cheese somebody with this before it gets patched out rq

[honest yoke]

you can do jab 1 into iad nair

very tight timing but it seems true

also jab 1 jump nair can work but you need to be like inside them when you land the jab and then fastfall the nair

[flint tide]

yeah so jason is

completely broken rn

he literally just grabs you with upspecial and automatically wins lol

its not even like the velma bug where you both got stuck and had to die with velma

you can release the opponent at like 200% and watch them instadie

[honest yoke]

you can get jab dair jab but you can't get a second dair at all they can dodge out of that now

BUT you can jab nair jab dair

and you can jab dair nair

[flint tide]

customisable input buffer is very nice

gotta relearn the game now though

[honest yoke]

wait you can loop jab 1 iad nair

you can just full stage carry with that if you have meter

[flint tide]

jab now has a range of about 2 character lengths

2.5

thats pretty crazy

also, bed into uair seems to work consistently now

[honest yoke]

now if you jab someone when you could have killed with side special if you were facing the other direction

you can just take them all the way to the other side of the stage

and kill them off that side

[flint tide]

okay so

even against small characters like morty

jab uair is consistent

i mean

bed uair

jab jab bed uair

at maximum range you need to move diagonally forward while jumping but it will work

god damn

@honest yoke how do you do the iad nair combo?

is it jab 1 iad nair and then what

[queen stirrup]

hows Jason?

[flint tide]

i cant get a jab after that

broken

like game breakingly broken

upspecial into any cancel grabs the enemy and puts them on you and you automatically win

[queen stirrup]

damn

[honest yoke]

just jab 1 iad nar jab 1

[flint tide]

hmm

[honest yoke]

i'm kinda annoyed that jason actually has a practical use for IADs now

i'm so bad at them

[halcyon badger]

Same lol but at least it’ll help us push our skill ceiling

[honest yoke]

doing a second iad is so much harder than the first one for me

i can hit the first one pretty easy at least in the lab but i've only gotten the second a couple times i keep getting ground neutral

[wheat lotus]

upspecial into downtilt keeps them stuck there and you can just stack damage before killing with jab

[flint tide]

input buffer change is unironically gonna make finn and arya matchups way better loool

being able to be precise with your movement and hitconfirms

[idle wolf]

Does jab feel a little bit stiffer for anyone else?

Nvm im bugging

[flint tide]

im worried they'll remove jason from the game cause of this bug for a bit

instead of just

fixing the bug

[honest yoke]

that would be so sad

[idle wolf]

They wouldn't remove him

Don't spread the bug please

Just tell the devs tbh

[flint tide]

is there a good way to contact them

[tiny cave]

Yo

Now Bugs bunny has interactions with Jason

Thats new

[tulip plaza]

#clips message

spooking folks

[wide shale]

jason must have been one of their cheapest characters to make since they didnt have to hire a voice over artist

[tiny cave]

I feel more comfy playing with Jason than before

[frosty swallow]

adjust dead zone?

[queen stirrup]

Jason feels so good now

[halcyon badger]

Wish I can play but I forgot my monitor at home ☹️

[tiny cave]

Also theres new interactions

With Jason

[flint tide]

the jab buffs are genuinely crazy tbh

[tiny cave]

Bugs bunny has a new one

[flint tide]

that is insane range for a jab that has such little recovery

[frosty swallow]

does ftilt have an extended hitbox at all?

[wide shale]

i'm going to check hitboxes when i get home later today

[flint tide]

jab literally has more range than sair

holy

gonna have to get used to having low input buffer but that + the jab changes are insane

could be matchup changing

even vs fast characters

[dire violet]

Ground Neutral has very generous hitbox now, can catch someone on top middle of tri plat

[frosty swallow]

i’m more interested in the apparent up special ohko glitch

[idle wolf]

ITS SO GOOD

[frosty swallow]

anyone test out nspecial with buff active??

[idle wolf]

Pls don't do it looool

[frosty swallow]

i gotta see it at least once online

[dire violet]

Hope they can server-side hotfix that instead of removing Jason

[tulip plaza]

maybe I haven't played long enough yet, but I'm not feeling these fixed hitboxes and increased attack speed buffs

[flint tide]

everyone is gonna find it

its like

[frosty swallow]

Wait bro i watch your videos xDD

[flint tide]

you cannot not find it

its so easy to do

[frosty swallow]

u the 🐐

[flint tide]

you can do it on accident

I actually did it on accident

[tulip plaza]

I did it once in a match and just sd'd after I got a ko with it
but I should have known better then to hommie stock a shaggy player

[idle wolf]

Thank you for watching bruddah

Noktron top Jason here tho

Can't even lie

[frosty swallow]

Humble ahh

[honest yoke]

clip of the game breaking jason bug https://discordapp.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009538859417215147/1257761578762240092

[flint tide]

alright going full punishment mode and gonna spend like 100 games acclimating to 6f input buffer

once i fix myself again i will be unstoppable fr

[idle wolf]

Damn I put mine down to 20 to adjust slowly you going balls to the wall

[tiny cave]

i just defeated the nightmare of every jason main
finn and his 0 to death combo

[flint tide]

i mean most fighting games i play have an input buffer around that level

its what i'm used to

[frosty swallow]

janet cage from mk1 combos got me ready for the new input buffer

[flint tide]

as long as there isn't no buffer like +r or its not something dumb like 2f im chilling

5-6 is ideal for me

[frosty swallow]

@flint tide do you run sidestep perk or 5%?

[flint tide]

sidestep

[idle wolf]

I play Smash and MK but I got used to the fat ass buffer on here

[flint tide]

i have never used 5% ever

[queen juniper]

Is maintenance mode done yet gang? At work so haven’t been able to check

[flint tide]

yes

[idle wolf]

Jason feels incomplete without Sidestep tbh

[flint tide]

jason is broken btw

like

[queen juniper]

Prayge

[flint tide]

fundamentally, game breakingly broken

as in he literally has a oneshot bug

[idle wolf]

He got a little glitchy glitch

[queen juniper]

How is Jake with new buffs? Anyone test him out yet?

[flint tide]

i dont play anyone besides jason

so idk

(lebron in 2v2s for memes tho)

jab jab bed uair doesnt seem to be suuuper great at far range on jab

which is fine i guess

[idle wolf]

Jason feeling good

[tulip plaza]

not for me

[idle wolf]

You put me on to that combo its so good

[idle wolf]

How come?

[tulip plaza]

still so many moves still hitting from when I'm behind someone
and of course I just fought jake and all he has to do is one move into bite and carry me off stage
boy it sure feels gooooooooooooood

[flint tide]

thats not a jason problem

[tulip plaza]

well its worse on jason since he's so big

I just know I am not feeling these jason buffs at all

okay yeah these top tier nerfs are just non existent

[idle wolf]

Lol who you just fight?

[tulip plaza]

bugs

nothing has changed

[idle wolf]

Bro bugs safe breaks in like 2 seconds

Its harder to parry the nairs tho now

[tulip plaza]

doesn't stop from that jab from hitting the ghost of jasons foot during my dodge frames

oh boy, a shaggy, this is gonna be so "fun"

[flint tide]

Brother with all due respect i think you have a proficiency deficiency

Way too early to be making calls on the state of balance rn

[languid harbor]

Jason feels so much better

[unique pewter]

About to check him out in rifts before I get wrecked in 2s lol

[flint tide]

I gotta just spend time getting used to the input buffer tbh

Its such a great change

I do wonder how the arya matchup plays now

[unique pewter]

I’m excited to try this “new” down air

[flint tide]

A fast, long range jab with solid reward is crazy for jason and with input precision

And the ability to consistently hitconfirm

Thats like a godsent gift

Legitimately offsets the nair recovery nerf massively

[halcyon badger]

@honest yoke lol I see you on Chris stream

[flint tide]

Because he now has an even better noncommital option with solid reward

[idle wolf]

Bro his jab is so good I gotta get used to actually punishing people

I'll swing and think I missed

[frosty swallow]

jason jab actually outspace’s arya’s now

[timber cedar]

oh hey

d tilt has armor break now

[wide shale]

it always did, did they add purple to it?

[timber cedar]

yea

guess it was missing the effects

[halcyon badger]

I thought it always had the purple effect

[wide shale]

it neither had purple or the words "armor break" in its description

but it did in fact break armor

[timber cedar]

that’s weird

the ax grab thing is definitely grabbing hotfixed in like 2 days

[idle wolf]

Didn't know that

[wide shale]

i stomp on bugs safes to oneshot them

[idle wolf]

Jason's Rage needs to be unbreakable tbhhhh

[timber cedar]

I learned that armor break insta breaks bugs safe like 4 days ago

I don’t think that was in beta

[languid harbor]

It feels weird seeing the machete actually land when it swings

[wide shale]

the bed oneshots the safe too

[languid harbor]

Facts. Why hide the money in the safe when you can hide money in the bed

[tulip plaza]

why does taz up smash hit from below the ledge

[flint tide]

Jasons rage is fine

[timber cedar]

htibxos

[flint tide]

I guess if anything remove the self damage tbh

And fix stuff like rick jab ignoring it

Lowkey the morty matchup probably in jasons favour now right

[languid harbor]

I think it's cause Rick's jabs is an armour break move

[flint tide]

The earth nerfs are like noticeable

It is?

[languid harbor]

Yeah

[flint tide]

Its supposed to do that?

[languid harbor]

It counts as a multi hit

[flint tide]

Well alright

Well

No

Multihits shouldn’t break it

[languid harbor]

I thought all multihits break armour?

Like bugs and soups

[flint tide]

No

[languid harbor]

And Shaggy's running thing

[flint tide]

Not inherently

[knotty sage]

armor only negates 1 hit, multihits just eat them so it looks like it

[flint tide]

Banana guard side a doesn’t

[languid harbor]

Ohhh. I thought i read it somewhere though during the beta.

[median geyser]

Why's my dodge not working on middle mouse button sometimes, it's hella frustrating

Can't even parry as well

[idle wolf]

Yea they made parrying harder

Crazy right?

Its such a high risk high reward thing already

[elder vector]

Well jason has a grab glitch

hope they quick fix it or he's gonna get disabled

[median geyser]

The thing is my dodge doesn't input when I press mid mouse button

It's hella annoying

[rapid cargo]

That makes sense when you consider him and banana guard were relatively close in release.

They already had assets for BG so they only needed to update the model and add a few lines.

Jason was just no lines at all lol

But getting the rights to Jason alone must've been a headache

[knotty sage]

well theres the whole jason universe thing so i dont think it was that hard

[halcyon badger]

Parrying in this game feels like frame 1

[median geyser]

The new basketball map is hella annoying

Keeps messing the kill confirms

[mental oar]

what do you guys recommend for the input buffer, i set mine to 0 and jab feels slower now

[honest yoke]

0 means you need frame perfect inputs

which is why jab feels slower

[elder vector]

yeah for a game like this 0 wouldn't be the best

im between 4-6 now

[tiny cave]

#clips message

lol

[honest yoke]

i'm probably gonna keep mine fairly high

[elder vector]

wish i could change settings during training

but alas

do give it a test, keep it high and slowly go down until you find the one you'd be most comfortable with

[flint tide]

Not 0

0 is bad

It’s up to what you feel most comfortable with

I’m setting mine to 6

[mental oar]

alright, didnt entirely understand what it meant and just thought 0 would mean faster

[tiny cave]

i love this bug

[mental oar]

thanks brahs

[honest yoke]

even without the bug i think jason is probably high tier now

[tiny cave]

yeah

im just using it to get rid of spammers

[elder vector]

Yeah i've been testing him more he's pretty alright now

[tiny cave]

i hate shaggys

[elder vector]

Still trying to find more usages for neutral attack

his neutral air got mad good now it's pretty much his neutral now

[honest yoke]

the nair frame data buff is actually pretty huge

he can combo into it now

[wide shale]

0 input buffer means you need to be frame perfect on every input to not have a delay between attacks

[west cloak]

0 input buffer is like playing Melee

[flint tide]

Nair frame data sounds pretty sick

[west cloak]

Which has no input buffer

[flint tide]

Is it only off jab 1 though?

My problem with combos off of jab 1 is that while they exist you can’t hitconfirm that

So you’d have to do it as like a guaranteed punish

(I love monstrous sidestep)

[west cloak]

Jab 1 nair is a thing now?

[flint tide]

Jab 1 iad nair

[west cloak]

Crazy

[flint tide]

Tubs the goat labbing all these combos out

Im in hell shadowboxing my demons with this input buffer change

[elder vector]

would there be a way to nair into side special kill confirm?

still trying to lab this out but maybe its doable

[honest yoke]

you can also jab 1 dair nair

[median grove]

Did they deadass buff harley?

[honest yoke]

doesnt work at every percent but it works a lot

way less practical for combos than iad nair though

[humble coral]

How's Jason now?

Finally not cheeks?

[median grove]

istfg I thought this update was peak until I read harley's patch notes

[honest yoke]

jason is the best character in the game now because of a bug

[humble coral]

Wait a bug?

[honest yoke]

withou the bug he's probably still high tier

[humble coral]

Good to see he's better now either way

[tiny cave]

bro went from the worst to the most broken of every single character

[median grove]

nah worst was bron

[chrome sluice]

what bug?

[elder vector]

Maan if Neutral Air Special was just an itsy bitsy faster i could make some very cool neutral air into it combos

[honest yoke]

here's the bug https://discordapp.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009538859417215147/1257761578762240092

[chrome sluice]

did they touch jake?

[tiny cave]

one of the worsts*

[honest yoke]

bron was not the worst

[humble coral]

I'd argue that Bron still had good projectile pressure. Jason had non of that

[tiny cave]

#clips message

ignoring that

[median grove]

no idea. #patch-notes

[tiny cave]

hes good now

[honest yoke]

jason probably had a better MU spread than bron but jason lost harder against his worst MUs

[elder vector]

Also

Dodge Jump Neutral air + Short Jump + Side Air Attack is a really good kill confirm

[tiny cave]

they fixed his hitbox

[flint tide]

Jason had a better mu spread?

[honest yoke]

i would say so

[chrome sluice]

not sure good is the word. maybe alright

[mental oar]

okay yea that up special bug is annoying

[flint tide]

I’m not a lebron expert

Who knows

[chrome sluice]

the list of buffs he got arent nearly as long as characters like lebron and jason

[mental oar]

fought another uber thinking it'd be fun and he used it immediately lol

[flint tide]

The past is the past now i guess

[tiny cave]

at least i feel it more comfortable than before

[median grove]

lol?

[flint tide]

He is good

[median grove]

low key you should be able to cancel up b like that

[flint tide]

They fixed all of his main issues and nerfed tons of characters he struggled with

[mental oar]

keep up special cancel get rid of the glue

[honest yoke]

lebron had a lot of the same problems as jason without all the kill power so against characters who kill you in minimal interactions he needs to do a lot more work

[flint tide]

I see

[wide shale]

lebron is just too damn tall for most of the cast

[flint tide]

Okay i can imagine how that’d be terrible

[wide shale]

he just whiffs over their heads half the time

[flint tide]

Nobody played lebron like at all ever

[honest yoke]

also all of his worst matchups from the beta were top tiers before

[wide shale]

i was a lebron main in the beta

[honest yoke]

WW has always been bad for him

[wide shale]

but he just wasnt fun to play on release

[honest yoke]

harley has always been bad for him

he used to beat finn but now finn has a projectile shield so he loses

[idle wolf]

Somebody abusing the bug on Verflied lol https://www.youtube.com/live/5iFKbr7_PwM?si=1QpaDS3Yj9qgDY1l

[ancient wraith]

not at home. how is our newly buffed goat looking

[muted dove]

JASONS REJOICE

WE EATING GOOD

[idle wolf]

Jason about to get vaulted lmao

[flint tide]

Jason highkey bout to get banned for a week

Is what it is

[honest yoke]

i hope not

[wide shale]

whoever is abusing his stuff right now is going to get him banned

[flint tide]

Guess its time to learn lebron

[ancient wraith]

what??? why

[idle wolf]

Reindog here we come

[median grove]

the finn AND harley quinn buffs in question

[tiny cave]

also unlike before if you jump you can separate

[flint tide]

They primarily removed harley’s juggles with sair and uair right

I dont know exactly what else they buffed about her but if thats gone she’s immediately less problematic

[idle wolf]

Jason has a glitch where you up special command grab and down tilt immediately after you can freeze the opponent on top of you and deal infinite damage

[flint tide]

That was pretty much the main thing why shr was so toxic

[honest yoke]

this seems like a really easy fix unlike iron giant so they can probably just hotfix it instead of disabling him

[flint tide]

Hopefully

I mean yeah

It wasn’t broken last patch so

[elder vector]

#clips message

you can kinda confirm nair into grab kinda

but it's a bit difficult

[honest yoke]

iron giant needed a whole list of nerfs and then he was still banned from tournaments after they enabled him again

[ancient wraith]

😭 they fixed my man just to break him again

[elder vector]

maybe bigger characters would be easier

[honest yoke]

jason just needs 1 bug to be fixed

2 i guess because of the scoobys mansion/cromulons instakill

[ancient wraith]

is he looking better outside of that bug though

[honest yoke]

yeah definitely

[elder vector]

absolutely

[honest yoke]

i think he's probably a high tier now without the bugs

[ancient wraith]

oh my god

i used to pray for times like this

[honest yoke]

fr

[flint tide]

Probably claps morty now

Earth nerfs go hard

[ancient wraith]

we are so unbelievably back

[median geyser]

Batman still cooks Jason though

[ancient wraith]

i cannot wait to try him when i get back home

[flint tide]

Batman was never that bad of a matchup

Totally doable

Didn’t he get his divekick nerfed

[median geyser]

Why do I feel like I've massive skill issue in this game

[flint tide]

I should see if you can anti air it consistently now

[honest yoke]

i hate batman so much but i know thats just ptsd from beta arya

[tiny cave]

bro wasnt joking when he said to be multiversus worst nightmare

[flint tide]

If you can anti air batmans divekick mu is probably even

In fact even if you cant

Because the slide nerf is hilarious

[honest yoke]

i could see that

[flint tide]

Jumping into dair very consistent punish now

It was always doable but sometimes if you were a liiitle too slow he’d escape

Not anymore

9 frames more to work with

[tiny cave]

the only thing i hate about batman is the grapple thats kinda undodgeable

[wide shale]

they exended the hurtbox on divekick, so you'll at best trade with the divekick now i'm guessing

[tiny cave]

and not only for jason

[flint tide]

Grapple is not that good

You can smack him for trying it

[wide shale]

grapple is predictable in timing at least

[flint tide]

With new hitbox buffs you can do it easier than ever

[tiny cave]

right

[flint tide]

The fact jab has more range than sair is insane

[tiny cave]

but at least for jason its hard to timing it

[wide shale]

throwing out a dair is probably viable when you get grappled now

[thick basalt]

What are the ideal perks to run on Jason in 1v1s, I've been running default for over 100 games now 🤡

[flint tide]

Monstrous sidestep

[tiny cave]

whats that?

[flint tide]

The one where he teleports behind you

[thick basalt]

Isn't default better for combo chaning with his side special

[tiny cave]

i hate that perk tbh

[thick basalt]

or does it not affect that

[flint tide]

No

[wide shale]

i usually run snowball effect, the over 100% weaken perk, and pugilist

[flint tide]

Monstrous is better for that and like ten other things

[honest yoke]

Airwalker jab could honestly be a decent option for reads on the air now

[flint tide]

Maybe

[thick basalt]

Isn't airwalker currently bugged and not working though

[tiny cave]

i tried it and i didnt like it

[flint tide]

Considering parry isn’t really a viable thing anymore

[tiny cave]

i cant do combos with the bed with that

[flint tide]

I hope they revert the parry change tbh

They won’t

But it’d be nice

[honest yoke]

Even before I think airwalker was worth it for certain matchups

Mostly against characters who don't let you get back to stage so that you can get armor midair then use that to get back

[wide shale]

its nice with the upspecial reversals off the ledge

[tiny cave]

#clips message

this the reason i dont like that perk

i couldnt do that with it

[frosty swallow]

i’m hoping they revert battle xp, they changed it back to 10 win 5 loss

[flint tide]

That isn’t a combo

[flint tide]

They WHAT

[frosty swallow]

yep yep

[flint tide]

This patch sucks bruh

[tiny cave]

THEY DID WHAT

UR JOKING

[frosty swallow]

and i’m still on the taz skin so gotta wait til next weeklies

[median geyser]

Tier 62?

[frosty swallow]

wouldn’t joke about tragedies

[frosty swallow]

yep

[median geyser]

Handshake me man... same here

[frosty swallow]

we’ll get there

[median geyser]

🤝

Good thing is that

You can proceed tiers with currency now

[tiny cave]

THAT SUCKS

[honest yoke]

By currency do you just mean gleamium

[median geyser]

Yes that

But ig I'm not gonna use it

Still have more time though

& next weekly is guarantee for Uber Jason grind

[honest yoke]

You have plenty of time to just get there on missions

[median geyser]

Right... weekly missions next week should do it

[honest yoke]

I kinda understand it if they want people to take most of the season to finish the pass

People were definitely blitzing through it at the old rate

[median geyser]

I don't play much coz how sweaty & competitive the game is... plus I'm playing the worst Tank in the game so yeah...

[honest yoke]

Not anymore you aren't

[median geyser]

What?

[honest yoke]

Best tank in the game now baby

[median geyser]

Nah man I just got cooked by Batman

Obv massive skill issue but I'm just feeling miserable rn

[honest yoke]

I mean Jason gets a guaranteed kill off of 1 interaction now

[tiny cave]

Yo

Theres new interactions

Bugs bunny has one

and finn has a interaction specificly with Jason X (uber)

[west cloak]

Oh…

[median geyser]

Before the game released, I was sort of hyped but after sometime playing, I felt miserable & lost motivation to play...

[flint tide]

The bug doesn’t actually count

Its not real

ONE OF the best tanks in the game 😎

[tiny cave]

I played just to get Jason

But yeah

XP sucks

[median geyser]

I mean I'm playing coz of Jason but at same time, too many sweats & I think fighting games aren't for me

[scenic lagoon]

Well boys, Jason is getting killswitched

[scenic lagoon]

I'm at tier 80 what do you mean

[tiny cave]

They changed back the XP

To 10 per win

It was perfect how it was

why

[wide shale]

my guess is they accidentally reverted it from a different build merge or something

its that or greed

[scenic lagoon]

Strange

[tight girder]

Wait, were they cooking with Jason with these buffs or am I in for disappointment?

[sterile summit]

How

[honest yoke]

https://discordapp.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009538859417215147/1257761578762240092

[sterile summit]

Finally some good f*cking food

[knotty sage]

is it up special grounded in general or that specific combo?

[wide shale]

you guys are just going to get jason put in the shop if you abuse that stuff

[honest yoke]

Grounded up special in general

[knotty sage]

oh im just not able to play jason until thats fixed i press up special on reflex

[sterile summit]

Imma use it for the rifts

[honest yoke]

You can use up special without doing it

[wide shale]

it might not works in rifts actually

[sterile summit]

Damn ur right

[wide shale]

the rift bots seem to just fall out of upspecial

[honest yoke]

It only happens if you dodge cancel early on during up special

[tight girder]

im so dang sad.

[halcyon badger]

Lmfao watching a morty getting bodied by a supe n crying

[knotty sage]

in higher difficulties they ignore grabs pretty much

[wide shale]

if you want to cheese rifts, i've been using the morty ufo

the bots usually just stand there and float up to the ceiling

[knotty sage]

so they gutted my boy steven and jason is bugged, fun

[honest yoke]

If you let it do the slam onto the ground then the bug doesn't happen

Realistically you probably aren't gonna have the bug happen unless you're trying to get it

[wide shale]

i wonder how often it will happen in 2v2s

like if someone hits you during the grab

[halcyon badger]

Very

Oh thought you meant intentionally lol

[wide shale]

i mean unintentionally yeah

[honest yoke]

It could be really funny in 2s because you get to just keep playing the game with the other person attached to you

[wide shale]

just sit out and turn it in to a 1v1 haha

[honest yoke]

You can do whatever you want as long as you stay on the ground and the person who got grabbed is gonna stay stuck

Real talk I think black Adam is gonna be one of the best characters now since he didn't really get nerfed and we lose HARD to him

[wide shale]

him losing the lightning spam is big for us

[tiny cave]

No i think they didnt

[wide shale]

but still as tough matchup

[tiny cave]

But it is harder to level

[west cloak]

You can tell from the pop up post game

[tiny cave]

A level used to be like 1k and something

[flint tide]

I don’t think we lose hard to black adam

[honest yoke]

Lighting wasn't even close to the main issue with black Adam for us though

[west cloak]

It’ll directly tell you how much XP

[tiny cave]

And now a level is like 4k XPN

I played a Game

I was at 1395

And after wining a Game

am at

1445

They changed the amount of XP per level

[honest yoke]

Flight just lets black Adam disengage whenever he wants and completely ignore Jason's advantage state

[west cloak]

This is true against a lot of characters actually

[flint tide]

Flight is definitely really strong but dealing with everything else he does is like

Fine?

[wide shale]

yeah i'm hoping aerial upspecial also get a hitbox fix

[flint tide]

I think its totally realistic to beat adam

Especially w monstrous

You have an option against his ranged attacks that he’s forced to respect

One of the more annoying things he has is the armour clap i guess

[honest yoke]

If the Adam just disengages with you every time you get a hit in it's not very realistic imo

[wide shale]

the clap is pretty dodgeable/parryable at least

[flint tide]

Hmm

I have not fought an adam super skilled in the jason matchup

So i could be wrong

[honest yoke]

Most players won't do that but some will

[west cloak]

He has a lot of drift and the clap lingers for quite a few frames

[flint tide]

I can see how that would be pretty annoying

[honest yoke]

You can't get any juggles or edge guards against him

[west cloak]

He can definitely mix up parry timings because I’ve had that happen against me

[tropic eagle]

The up special glitch can be "reverted" by just doing another up special, i think.

Pretty sure it lets them go.

[west cloak]

From the clip Tubs sent, it seems like any grab will

[honest yoke]

A lot of your reads are reliant on characters having normal movement and not complete omnidirectional flight

[tropic eagle]

So like, up special, air neutral special, down special?

[west cloak]

Since jab 3 got the training mode dummy unstuck

[honest yoke]

Air grab doesn't work because they detach as soon as you leave the ground

[west cloak]

Oh, so jumping breaks them out too?

[tiny cave]

I honestly dont like the new level system

[dire violet]

I don't think I like this parry change...

[tiny cave]

I think they changed because before You were able

To do 2 levels in one day

If You do all misions

Plus some of the weekly missions

And now instead of 1k per level

Its 4k

[tiny cave]

Greed

Now its 4k per level

That means You have to do like

[gray gale]

like

[tiny cave]

Theres 5 daily missions if im right

[tiny cave]

They changed the Xp system completely

[tiny cave]

.

[gray gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tiny cave]

.

1445 out of 4k

And now You can just buy levels with gleamium

In few words

Pay to win

[visual sail]

Jason has the same grab glitch that a bunch of other characters had

Dude just did it to me

[wide shale]

yeah its spreading rapidly and everyone is abusing it now

just watched mirrorman straight up alt f4 his game when he queued into another jason

they're going to take jason out back and shoot him

[visual sail]

Superman can do it too

Grabs in general can do it

[wide shale]

thats...kind of a good sign then?

[tulip plaza]

they just made it easier apparently lol
or something, what did they do

[wide shale]

that means its a general fix and not something they can just take jason out for

[arctic palm]

At long last, I have Obtained Uber Jason

I still can't believe they added the Skin from the (in my opinion) best Friday movie

Jason is alot of fun to play as tbh

[wide shale]

there's an ice cube skin?

[arctic palm]

...He kinda reminds me of a Fusion of Little Mac & Ganondorf.

...that'd be cool if Cyrogenic Jason got in as a Skin.

[knotty sage]

it seems the grab bug from the early days has returned

garnet's star grab used to do that

[west cloak]

I’m pretty sure the amount increases based on what tier you’re on because mine were 4K before the update

[arctic palm]

I never got to 4k

[tiny cave]

Maybe im wrong

And after level 70

It switches to 4k

Instead of 1

[wide shale]

it was like 8k for me post 70 yesterday

per tier

[west cloak]

It definitely wasn’t 1K for the entire pass

[tiny cave]

I think its a bug bc theres nothing after level 70

[west cloak]

I know it was 2K at one point

[west cloak]

No, you have access to the “infinite tier”

[wide shale]

you're supposed to get small amounts of currency after 70

[west cloak]

You either get 50 perk currency or 50 fighter currency

[wide shale]

there's a rare gleamium reward too apparently

i've only ever gotten perk currency though

[tiny cave]

So

[west cloak]

I’ve never seen it

[dire violet]

I got Gleamium multiple times so it's there

[west cloak]

How much is it?

[dire violet]

50

[tiny cave]

When You pasa level 70 they give You a random XP amount to the next level

[icy raptor]

jason feels like its christmas morning and we're playing with our brand new toy this is wonderful

[tiny cave]

Cuz mine is 4k

[flint tide]

uh

lowkey

not sure if many of jasons moves even have a point after the jab buff loool

its

[tiny cave]

And his is 8k

[flint tide]

legit faster than neutral axe

has more range

leads to more reward

has less recovery

actual do everything

[wide shale]

does jab hit people inside of him now?

[arctic palm]

I'm so happy they added Jason to this game

[tiny cave]

So i guess in his case he'll get better rewards ig

If its intentional

Maybe the XP depends on the reward

[arctic palm]

The only thing I could ask for in terms of new Characters is Freddy Krueger so there could be a Freddy v Jason Rift

[wide shale]

nah my previous tiers were 8k and i just got 50 perk currency

havent checked it today, not home yet

[tiny cave]

For example rift gem might be 2k XP
fighters currency = 4k
and 8k = gleamium currency

If not that should be considered a bug

[dire violet]

Man I can't believe they didn't fix the dodge bug, c'mon

[wide shale]

the dodging out of bed thing

?

[arctic palm]

Where Jason backwards Dodges?

[dire violet]

And Stomp, yeah

[median geyser]

Nah he doesn't get any buffs, other than better frames & hitboxes

Not even a sleeping bag buff

[median geyser]

Yes!!! Freddy in the game! We need it!

[arctic palm]

The Hitboxes are pretty good

Though against Superman his machete still feels like it has a hurt box

[median geyser]

They're more inline now which is good but Jason's attacks still feel slow

[devout burrow]

wait

jab is gigantic now

that's really big

[median geyser]

But iiiiyeah, Jason barely received many buffs other than bugs fixed

The nair axe is actually pretty good now

[fickle ledge]

Is it just me or did they not mention Jason ground down attack breaking armor?

[median geyser]

No they didn't mention

[fickle ledge]

I love shadow buffs.

😈

[median geyser]

The stomp always have been breaking armor

Before the patch, it just lacked purple indicator

[arctic palm]

UHHH I found a Bug on the Victory Screen for Uber Jason FFA

[fickle ledge]

Ah

I see.
Finally the FT13th Lizbeth step is visually consistent.

[median geyser]

Either way Jason is still C tier...

[arctic palm]

Jason doesn't come back, a sliver of his Arm does.

[median geyser]

Still the worst Tank in the game...

[arctic palm]

Even if that's the Case, Tier shouldn't matter for fun value, and Jason is a blast to play (to me atleast)

I don't think he sucks

[fickle ledge]

At least I'm not playing Iron Giant.

[median geyser]

I kept facing sweats & kept acting like punching bag though

[median geyser]

IG is still better

[fickle ledge]

IG is aids to play.

And only has the 2nd funniest kill confirm in the game.

[median geyser]

Nah man you just gonna get good at IG... but he definitely can cook

Jason just attacks too slow... it's sad...

[tight girder]

i aint gonna lie, i love the faster frames though. it feels perfect.

[flint tide]

hitbox changes are absolutely insane

up special has a ridiculous disjoint

[fickle ledge]

He cooks by being boring.

[flint tide]

*air up special

[fickle ledge]

I love my get out of combo free card that kills off the top.
I love having a dash attack that takes 2 years to start up.
I love my rage install mini-game mode that's blatantly out of character.

Mucho greato.

[median geyser]

Hitbox startup frames are good... but like... other characters can still literally cook him...

[flint tide]

not really

not in the same way at all

[median geyser]

The nair axe is definitely the best change for me

[flint tide]

the hitbox changes are legit crazy

jab is such a ridiculous move now

edgeguards

plays neutral

fast and low recovery

high reward

legit does everything

even anti airs

[median geyser]

Whaaaaat???

[frosty swallow]

they disabled jason

[median geyser]

Bruh Jason doesn't have good recovery

[median geyser]

☠️

[flint tide]

removed jason lmaoooo

[median geyser]

Seriously?

[flint tide]

alright time to learn how to play lebron

[frosty swallow]

on god

[timber cedar]

that was extremely fast

[icy raptor]

WHAT

ARE YOU SERIOUS

[median geyser]

Oh yeah put him in the garage damn!!!

[idle wolf]

Anddddd he's gone

[frosty swallow]

game just went out of date and reloaded and he’s gone

[median geyser]

Yep he's cooked

[idle wolf]

Smh there goes my video for today

[wide shale]

...damn i didnt even get a chance to come home and play him

[timber cedar]

ig gets to be broken like that for days and Velma had a bug like that for a week

[fickle ledge]

Oh so that's not just me.

Okay

Got it

[idle wolf]

They got rid of him frame 1

[frosty swallow]

can’t let my boy have his day in the sun

[icy raptor]

i

am

so

[minor radish]

[icy raptor]

mad

[fickle ledge]

If I had permission to put Jason in my game I would never take him out.

Just saying.

[minor radish]

im furious

[timber cedar]

hopefully he will be back tomorrow

[icy raptor]

hopefully he will be back NOW

[timber cedar]

I hope it isn’t a ig situation where’s hes gone for a week

[icy raptor]

HE ISN'T EVEN A TOP TIER HE'S JUST PLAYABLE WHY THEY DO THIS TO MY BOY!?

[frosty swallow]

cause the up special glitch

[median geyser]

He's a broken exploit

[icy raptor]

oh that explains it

[timber cedar]

who told

[icy raptor]

fml

[timber cedar]

who snitched

[elder vector]

damn i was in the middle of rifts

probably the fastest removal so far

[arctic palm]

I wish they woulda warned us or something

[flint tide]

dude im chilling

[elder vector]

they'll probably post about it soon

[median geyser]

Inevitable anyway, PFG keeping track

[flint tide]

the buffs are legit insane

i just gotta get used to 6f delay

[elder vector]

but yeah that bug was really bad

hopefully it's fixed soon

[arctic palm]

I hope by tomorrow

I just got to Tier 70 :/

[tulip plaza]

JASON IS GONE NOOOOO

[arctic palm]

I was having a blast

[tight girder]

everyone can cook everyone, just different rotes. sure, jason def would benefit from having armor but right now im just happyi can play normally

[arctic palm]

I never even used the exploit :/

[timber cedar]

I was about to try out monstrous sidestep

this sucks

[visual sail]

🎉

[arctic palm]

Can't play normally now, Characters gone.

[neon spire]

this is outrageous, this is unfair

[tight girder]

daaaaaaaamn

[visual sail]

Shut yo green goblin azz up

[neon spire]

Jason was sent straight to hell, again

[median geyser]

I can't play happily when everyone just keep sweating themselves then play punching bag on me... it's a shame & miserable to play

[river cove]

Rip Jason

[tiny cave]

NOOOOOOO

[tulip plaza]

I feel this so much
but of course when I said it I was told "skill issue"

[tight girder]

i'm like

hurt

[minor radish]

we get a taste of happiness and they take it from us

[timber cedar]

they better just remove the bug and not nerf him

[minor radish]

😔

[timber cedar]

it was way to early to see how strong he was

[median geyser]

I felt lile having skill issue man, it's just inevitable

[tight girder]

they got zero reason to. if they do imma just go back to sad days on dcuo ; -

[timber cedar]

well I’m off to mk10 to fill the Jason void

[queen juniper]

They disabling Jason in game before I even get time to test him out smh

[dreamy wedge]

Goodbye garbage back to the lobby

[median geyser]

Is Jason channel the most active currently?

[tulip plaza]

I believe it has the most messages of the character channels

[queen juniper]

Jason gang the best

[timber cedar]

it’s the most active in general

[river delta]

Jason got removed before I could play as him post-buff 😭

[median geyser]

Like fr... I'm checking how many messages have been sent in other characters

But Jason has the most

Coz it's mostly about discussing potential buffs/nerfs & playstyle... experiences

[tight girder]

I only ogt to play a little bit while i was being silly with my gal pal.

then they hopped off so i was gonna take em online

[median geyser]

He may be underwhelmed but he's his own fans

[tight girder]

i dont understand how it was a bug to begin with

[queen juniper]

Classic patch that includes new bugs/“features”

[tulip plaza]

tbh what I played, I was not feeling the buffs as much as I would have hoped
at this point its just frustrating, might need to find a new main
until they can ACTUALLY fix jason

[fickle ledge]

Based

[median geyser]

Yeah man he doesn't get any buffs

[gray gale]

so uhhhh

[median geyser]

Other than bugs fixed

[gray gale]

yeah

jason

amirite, fellas?

[median geyser]

The only REAL buff he gets is his nair Axe btw

[queen juniper]

I shall refine my Marvin and Morty until they free Jason from jail

[median geyser]

It's much faster & spedup now

[median geyser]

Sent to the trash can

[tight girder]

Jason Goes To Hell? More like Main Main

[dire violet]

Ughhhh

I get it but ughhhh

[vast wadi]

What

Jason got deactivated?

[median geyser]

Yes

Sent to Hell

[idle wolf]

He always comes back

[chrome sluice]

instead of making rift nodes require someone similar to jason (or just deactivating the rift nodes along with him), let's make it the most expensive character in the game!

...wtf

[median geyser]

But stillnweak as usual

[vast wadi]

How he’s the battle pass character he’s the premium one 😭

[flint tide]

he's not weak

[vast wadi]

This glitch also happens to Velma

[median geyser]

Man I need you to coach me to prove me wrong

[flint tide]

the entire upper portion of uspecials hitbox is basically disjointed

[vast wadi]

I don’t see her disabled tho

[flint tide]

that is ridiculous

you can literally hit jasons arm with an attack and he will just ignore it and kill you

it makes ledge jason even better

[chrome sluice]

pfg REAAAALLY wants people to buy joker

[flint tide]

edgeguarding him hard as hell

[vast wadi]

This is so stupid

I understood IG

But Jason is straight up stupid

Since this also happens to Velma

Also in rifts too?!!? Like

[flint tide]

batman matchup feels way better

the nerf to his slide is like

very notable

i only got a few games in vs some random guy though so grain of salt

very first impressions

[severe barn]

I think we need a funeral for Jason our beloved

[flint tide]

batman downtilt legit just gets eaten at ledge by uspecial now

which is hilarious

he might struggle to edgeguard him which could be nonsense

i need them to bring my boy back online asap bro

these changes feel so crazy

[median geyser]

Wth man

I was cooked by him

& he keeps doing uair cape at my face

[minor radish]

Pamela took the kid in the divorce

[flint tide]

If you can figure out why exactly you were cooked by him you can figure out how to stop the thing you have a problem with

[median geyser]

Stop the thing? I mean how can I do that?

Like my attacks are damn slow & he just keeps hitting me

I tried to parry & to no avail

[flint tide]

What is he hitting you with

[median geyser]

I only got only one single parry

[median geyser]

Batarangs, uair cape, some sort of sticky bomb

Also keep dodging my attacks

I didn't record the game unfortunately but it was so miserable

[idle wolf]

Record next one

[flint tide]

You gotta focus on what options specifically he’s doing and then focus on tackling that issue

Lets take batarang

When he throws batarang you’ve gotta avoid it somehow whether it’s jumping or dodging past it

The problem comes in what he does after he throws batarang

So you have to pay attention to how he reacts to your dodging and then try and predict what he’ll do next based on that

For example if i see batarang i might run backwards and jump over it, he’ll run and try and hit me

If i know he’s gonna do that i can jump over his attack and hit him there

Or if i know when he likes to throw batarang i can also dash attack him because it eats projectiles

[median geyser]

Nah man it was already over

& I'm not playing rn

[flint tide]

I want to play as jason already bruh

[idle wolf]

Oh yea Jason is gone lol

[flint tide]

How hard is fixing this one bug

It literally wasn’t bugged last patch

[idle wolf]

Black Adams clap is too damn big bruh

[flint tide]

That move is pretty goofy

[median geyser]

Which attack to hit him? Side? Down? Neutral? My goodness

[idle wolf]

Tried to jump over him as reindog and got clapped lmaooo

[flint tide]

Just hit him with whatever you want

[median geyser]

Other than Batarangs, he mixed everything up

[flint tide]

Yeah i know

[median geyser]

& bro dodges

[flint tide]

Good players do that

[median geyser]

After I dodge & hit

[flint tide]

But you can’t tackle every issue at once

[median geyser]

They recover & dodge it

[flint tide]

You have to break down the problems in your matches one at a time and focus on improving steadily

[median geyser]

Like Jason's attacks so slow that they can just recover intime to dodge

It's insane

[flint tide]

It depends what attack he’s doing

If he does slide or something he can’t though

[median geyser]

Sair is slow

His spike is also slow

[flint tide]

I can’t give you perfect advice for every situation but you basically gotta just adapt to what he does

You can’t blame the character for everything

[median geyser]

You've to slow your playstyle if you're playing as Jason

Coz every characters have already adapt way better movements

[scenic lagoon]

He got killswitched

[wide shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYQDnV092hI

[flint tide]

The one thing i kinda don’t like about the patch

Is that centring so much of jasons power on jab feels like his other moves might be less relevant

Legit what is the point of neutral axe now

[idle wolf]

Jab wonderbread

Neutral axe still hit slightly below ledge?

[median geyser]

Ground or Air?

[flint tide]

Yes but

Jab also does

Jab legit has a way better hitbox than neutral axe in almost every way now

[flint tide]

Ground

[median geyser]

Oh

[wide shale]

damn they took him out of training mode too

[median geyser]

Maybe just one single hit?

[halcyon badger]

I’d say ground neutral axe is only good for hard callouts for kill confirm

[scenic lagoon]

Dtilt now has armor break

Which is cool

I guess

[flint tide]

Always did

Just never had a visual for it

[scenic lagoon]

Never showed it

[sterile summit]

How tf they killswitch Jason so fast without an update? This absolutely blows

[scenic lagoon]

Well he had a IG like bug

[languid harbor]

Why's this channel here? Whose Jason?

[scenic lagoon]

No clue bro, maybe Michael Jason

[languid harbor]

Damn can't wait for him to be added

[scenic lagoon]

Same bro, I feel like I'm gonna really like him, as if I know how to play him already

[languid harbor]

Same bro

[scenic lagoon]

Like suddenly you've been hit by

And get you've been struck by

A smooth Jason.

And then he moonwalks while being so awesome

[wide shale]

on the upside, if anyone needs to do "hit with jokers bazooka" you can do it in rifts now since they replaced jason with joker

[mental oar]

They took everything from me

[haughty dome]

I miss you big wide man

[neon spire]

Jason Did Nothing Wrong

[sterile summit]

I was literally gonna unlock uber Jason today but now I have no reason to

[wheat lotus]

take your time

[halcyon badger]

BP at lvl 42 without doing rifts

Maybe I should do them

[azure falcon]

I miss my boy Jason

[azure falcon]

I mean he’s gonna be back you’ll still have the skin

[icy raptor]

be me
multiversus full release
main shaggy, but realize that despite the character needing some tweaks, that he isn't going to get any buffs ever
try out Jason
fun af
He sucks, but still fun af, he's bound to get buffs
Mid-season patch time!
PFG makes Jason Playable!?!?!?!?
Have fun playing multiversus, get a couple clips
THANKS PFG!!!!
finish a match with a BA
disconnect from the game
dafuq?????
shaggy is now my selected fighter
dafuqqqq??????
Jason is kil
thanks pfg.

[azure falcon]

So true

Just saw a Reddit post of a poor guy buying the BP for Jason and having the j man removed

[icy raptor]

ouch

i was planning on grinding rifts with a friend later so that i could get uber jason and he could get agent smith, now jason is dead and it isn't the same

hopefully they add him back today and not one week from now

[flint tide]

Shaggy needed what

[icy raptor]

for them not to have removed hangry hopping, given him some tech or something and made it so that he's easy to use, but actually fun to play as at higher levels

even if they nerfed hangry hopping, it would still be 10x better than gutting it outright

[scenic lagoon]

He was broken...

Of course they nerfed him

He's been a high/top tier since release

[icy raptor]

yeah but he wasn't fun to play as

i didn't say he needed buffs, i said he needed tweaking

[arctic palm]

This was me, but included was the fact I finally got the BP Tier 70 Skin 20 minutes before he was removed

I was literally so happy

Then he was removed

[west cloak]

Rip Jason

[flint tide]

Shaggy never felt broken to me

Like top of high tier

But broken was like the real top tiers u feel me

[arctic palm]

I agree...for 1v1

But double shaggy was just...

P a i n.

[west cloak]

Wait, someone who didn’t think Shaggy was top 3? Insane

Well more like actually sane

Shaggy just stomps at low and mid level where people can’t punish his predictable approach options and they just explode when he hits them

People thought Jason was gonna be the same but then everyone was just losing with Jason after like day 2

[safe geode]

Wait why did jason get removed

[flint tide]

Tbh i also really play 1v1s a lot

[scenic lagoon]

Too good