Joker

[brittle zenith]

You're so mad its unbelievable

You're malding so hard

Imagine dying to the diamond card

Getting set up that hard is insane

Couldnt be me

[jagged spindle]

whoops typo I'm top 13% in win rate

[brittle zenith]

Skill diffed, quite frankly

[mellow thicket]

this dude is actually upset

[jagged spindle]

talk.to.me.when u hit top 60 for ur charecter

[mellow thicket]

ig the age rating for the game was set appropriately

[brittle zenith]

Ooooh too bad I'm top 4.9%

[mellow thicket]

there arent even rankings out?

[brittle zenith]

Keep malding

[mellow thicket]

where are your stats

[faint shore]

How you check what you are? Lol

[brittle zenith]

Tracker.gg

[jagged spindle]

jokers a far better charecter eitg actually true kill confirms at 100 snd one of.the best projectiles

[mellow thicket]

yeah but no stats are out lol

its all old beta stats

[jagged spindle]

yall are def down playing ue broken characters

[jagged spindle]

nope it's current stats

it's updating for me

[brittle zenith]

No its definitely updating

[jagged spindle]

tracker.gg

[brittle zenith]

It tracks new stuff

[faint shore]

Are ya looking at 1v1s?

[mellow thicket]

then why has my mmr never been changing on any character

[brittle zenith]

BA main saying he isn't top 3 btw

[brittle zenith]

MMR isnt tracked anymore because its not shown anymore

Its hidden now

[jagged spindle]

he isn't joker main saying he's not top 3 character fyi

bros.carried and can't admit it

[brittle zenith]

Win rate can still be tracked by tracking your matches

[mellow thicket]

whats your user on multi

[brittle zenith]

Top 5 on a high ball, sorrry bro but you're just bad

[mellow thicket]

then how can you even see your fighter ranking

[jagged spindle]

Stephen was here ignore my 2v2 rank I kept disconnecting and 90% of my losses are from disconnects

[brittle zenith]

You cant

You can see your win rate

[mellow thicket]

then what this dude talking about

top 60

[brittle zenith]

Not your ranking

[jagged spindle]

send me ur username.then nud

[brittle zenith]

Yeah he's schizophrenic

[jagged spindle]

bud

[faint shore]

In overall im top 40% in 1s im top 0.7% is that good?

[jagged spindle]

you can

[brittle zenith]

You can guess it I'm sure of that!

[jagged spindle]

also I was top 60 in bets for.ig

duh

[mellow thicket]

?

[jagged spindle]

it's ok yall are new tp.multiversw

I get it

[brittle zenith]

Wow this guy was top 60 in the beta when there were only 60 people to compete with

What a pro

[jagged spindle]

gl grinding tho

[mellow thicket]

lol it is beta stats I called it

[jagged spindle]

60? there were over 10k players LOL

[mellow thicket]

so not current stats at all

[jagged spindle]

No that was from ingsmr leaderboard bozo

[brittle zenith]

You're ass kid, I'm sorry

[jagged spindle]

I gave you my username to check my current record

go check it

then talk to.me

[mellow thicket]

damn I cant beat these stats

top 6% in Losses

[jagged spindle]

talk to me when u hit top 60 or atleast top 10% in winratr

[jagged spindle]

tor 2v2?

2v2 doesn't matter

[mellow thicket]

nope, overall

[jagged spindle]

u disconnect more in 2v2

[brittle zenith]

I have top 4.9% wr sorry bro I'm just better

[jagged spindle]

top 13% in winrate

[jagged spindle]

send user

u won't LOL

[brittle zenith]

Guess it its not hard to guess

Nearly 400 others could do it

I believe in you

[mellow thicket]

bro you should not be complaining about Joker lol

[brittle zenith]

Take one strong crack at it

[mellow thicket]

your last over 50 games are all on BA

[jagged spindle]

hs making shi$ up now but won't refuse to send ur user

[jagged spindle]

ok ur complainf I'm playing my main thwts lkke.me comparing ur playing joker

LOl

????

[brittle zenith]

My user is Zypten, since you cant read ig

[jagged spindle]

joker mains coping cuz they're carried

[mellow thicket]

you never even got your ig in beta to top 60 for mmr

mmr is the only beta stat remaining

[brittle zenith]

In 1s alone I have a top 9% wr

[mellow thicket]

you only got him to top 30% in 1v1

[brittle zenith]

You only have 13%

Since you have 13% and I have 9% that means I'm better and you should never talk to me again

[jagged spindle]

in beta for.ingame leader board for players I git top.60

for it

I have the screnshot

[mellow thicket]

mmr is literally player ranking

and you didnt even get to top 10%

[jagged spindle]

did u not play. bets

my god

[mellow thicket]

yeah i did

[jagged spindle]

they had s leaderboard in game

LMAO

[mellow thicket]

then why is your mmr so low

my T&J beta mmr is almost triple yours

[jagged spindle]

cuz I switched mains

i hit top 60 then switched to rein snd marvin

which split my mmr

[mellow thicket]

then your mmr would of stayed the same

[jagged spindle]

dub

[mellow thicket]

its character mmr

not whole game mmr

[jagged spindle]

ut wouldn't cuz I'm playing w other charevterd

it would be low

cuz I stopped playing ir

[mellow thicket]

each character has a seperate mmr

[jagged spindle]

after awhile??

[mellow thicket]

it wouldnt change if you dont play games on him

[jagged spindle]

yeah but it didn't incrrase

due to the fact I stopped playing

duh

[mellow thicket]

then you stopped at top 30%

[brittle zenith]

Bluds flexing his imaginary wr

[jagged spindle]

I have 1k.mmr for 2v2 and. I v

bud want to to send u the pxiture

[mellow thicket]

you also have an extremely low amount of 1v1 games

[jagged spindle]

of my charecter peaderboard

LOL

thwt doesn't mean anything

when win rate is more.importsnt???

[mellow thicket]

yeah more games will change your stats

[jagged spindle]

u realize win rate is more important then.gamds played

[mellow thicket]

also not current stat either

[jagged spindle]

also ba isn't on tracker

[mellow thicket]

wr is a beta stat currently

[jagged spindle]

it should be because it's usating my wins

[mellow thicket]

that means all your characters combined you would have played barely over 100 games

it says I only have 182 matches and I have more then that on my Bugs alone

which means its not an updated stat

neither is 2v2

[jagged spindle]

it says I have over 1k total wins

the bottom.qhee it shows ur wind is bade on ur last like 10 matchs

[mellow thicket]

yeah but the specific 1v1 and 2v2 stats arent updated

if you go by that your wr would only be 54%

which is bottom 42%

[jagged spindle]

that goes off of.2v2 and 1v1

chsnfe it to.1v1

it's lokw 70%

[mellow thicket]

you cant

[jagged spindle]

u realise.tht percent is base on boyh

you xam lamooo

[mellow thicket]

those stats arent updated

[jagged spindle]

you can

[brittle zenith]

@jagged spindle you're just embarrassing yourself atp
Just say you're trolling and give up dawg 😭

[mellow thicket]

the 1v1 and 2v2 stats are not updated from the beta

the only current stats anyone has is recent games and overall

and daily stats

from today

if we go by the only stats currently available then my wr is higher

62% beats 54%

also top 18% and top 19% on T&J and Finn beating out any of your character mmr stats

[brittle zenith]

71% beats 62% and 54%
I'm better fr 🗣️

[mellow thicket]

nah we switch the 1 and the 7

17%

[brittle zenith]

I'm cooked

[jagged spindle]

that's win rate for.both 2v2 and 2v2 on the options for the bottom.of the screen herr u see ur current wins u csm switch to 1v1s

[mellow thicket]

thats for your past 50 matches

[jagged spindle]

yeah for my current win rate in 1v1 for the past t0.matches it's 75% 70% is from beta then on my in game record im.at 70%

idk.where ur getting 50%

cuz 2v2 currently is unplayable

because of.the network issues

[mellow thicket]

im looking at it rn

your past matches its 59%

[jagged spindle]

it shouldn't be

[mellow thicket]

well it is lol

and im not counting beta stats

this isnt beta

[jagged spindle]

oh right I threw mwtchs yesterday cuz It was 4 am

lmaoo

I was at 80% win rate

I'll just fix it later

0i had a consistent 70-80% win rate till yesterday cuz I was too tired

but I was grinding to stay rank 1

[novel temple]

should I run airwalker on Joker?

[orchid bolt]

PFG NEVER BRING BACK ATTACK DECAY
or at least tone it down from the beta

he's top tier

not exactly top 5ish
bc they need to be brought down to the level of normal people

but really good outside of them

[orchid bolt]

his MMR is so low compared to the leaderboard bc when only 500 people played this game it was still handing out "top 100, "top 50" "top 10" titles

[mellow thicket]

😭

That explains a lot

[orchid bolt]

that's why u see so many people claiming top 200, it's fraudulent

LOL

if u logged on and played a character nobody else did that was an auto top 500

[mellow thicket]

Damn lol

[brittle zenith]

PFG bring back attack decay and make it 50 times stronger

If you use the same attack twice, you immediately explode

[orchid bolt]

where are u checking the MMR out bc the one site i went to said i was top 10% superman and asked me to pay to see more (i barely ever touched supes 💀)

[oblique shuttle]

if ur not ass

joker is top 3

[orchid bolt]

I put him #6

[brittle zenith]

Tracker.gg

[brittle zenith]

He's not even top 5 bud

[orchid bolt]

But he's busted as hell, so much privilege

[brittle zenith]

He's in the top 10 sure but he's not even top 5

[orchid bolt]

privilege+my any%bnbs double as zero to deaths

I'm trying Jason now and it's soul crushing in comparison not being able to just beat out spam with my buttons

[jagged spindle]

hea def top 3

[brittle zenith]

Wrong, BA is though!

[jagged spindle]

ah yes the charecter every top player is putting low to.high tier

ur riggt bro.mb ur opinion weighs more then top players

mb bro

I guess the fact every top player put joker top 3 makes him.bottom 1

mb little bro

[orchid bolt]

sometimes mine does

[jagged spindle]

true

[oblique shuttle]

he is

[brittle zenith]

Dawg you have a lower win rate than me with less matches played

[brittle zenith]

He isn't
BA, WW, HQ, Bugs, and Gizmo are all better

[jagged spindle]

I have 1.4k games played

[brittle zenith]

And a 40% WR 💀

[jagged spindle]

bro can't counter my argument on the fact every top player put him high tier 1 put him mid

irz a 59% win rate

and that's cuzninwas throwing matchs

yesterday

I have an average of 75% win rate

cey harder tho

[brittle zenith]

How many matches did you throw? 500?

You're mad

Cry about it

[jagged spindle]

like 4 matchs which nuked my win rate from.80.to.60

cry.cuz ur bad

[brittle zenith]

That is NOT how that works 😭

[jagged spindle]

try playing at 4 am.when ur at 4 hours of aleep

[orchid bolt]

why do i have a 56% 💀, is there a separate per character win rate i can check

[brittle zenith]

Because you lost 44% of your matches

[jagged spindle]

it does m ur looking at my recent win rate which was rhe past like 10 games

aheug

[brittle zenith]

Recent wr is irrelevant tbh

[jagged spindle]

ur the one bragging cuz my recent wr Is 59

???

total win rate is more important

pr the average win rate

[orchid bolt]

my recent is 200%

i win double the games i play

[jagged spindle]

I belive you

[orchid bolt]

i should have at least 60 bruh, it's counting all those times i do challenges and then SD after

that's why this game needs ranked bro

[stray gulch]

Chat i cant land the jab1 dair down b combo

Half the time cause i forget about it

😡

[oblique shuttle]

ba?

black adam

hell

no

LOLL

[nimble rivet]

Harley Quinn? Hell no LMAO

[orchid bolt]

hq not over joker? no way

[brittle zenith]

MVS players are so neuro-impaired

[orchid bolt]

top 1 in most annoying at least

[brittle zenith]

Joker is strong but not Harley strong

Harley has been among the best 1s characters since day 1 and the devs keep doing nothing about it

Crazy, honestly

[nimble rivet]

hq is not as strong as joker not even close

[wraith cedar]

Zypten ur a great downplayer if Ive ever seen one

Ur actually dumb

[brittle zenith]

@ moderator bypass can we ban him

[wraith cedar]

U just sat here and told me joker not on Harley level

[brittle zenith]

He's not

I didn't say Jokers bad

I said he's not Harley good

[brittle zenith]

(edited)

[wraith cedar]

😂😂

Do u even play high level what so ever

[orchid bolt]

what he say 😭

[wraith cedar]

To spew such an idiotic statement

[brittle zenith]

The game doesn't have effective skill based matchmaking so who knows? I could be but I could not be we'll never know

[wraith cedar]

I said he’s an amazing downplayer

[wraith cedar]

So u suck

[brittle zenith]

He called me the n word

[wraith cedar]

Cap

[orchid bolt]

wtff

[brittle zenith]

I'm slandering his name

[wraith cedar]

W gaslight

[brittle zenith]

Spewing misinformation, even

[wraith cedar]

😂😂

I’m black so u can’t even pull that card on me

[brittle zenith]

Yes I can

[wraith cedar]

Good try

[nimble rivet]

oh

1s

ive never played 1s LMAO

[wraith cedar]

Loser activity

[nimble rivet]

who even does

but yeah zypten has got to be joker's greatest abuser and biggest defender

[brittle zenith]

That's crazy mfs telling me I'm wrong and he ain't even talking about the same thing 😭

[brittle zenith]

I don't even play Joker

[wraith cedar]

I can smell zypten through my screen

He stinks

[nimble rivet]

uh huh

[orchid bolt]

💀 💀 💀

probably most

[nimble rivet]

nah its legit boring

[orchid bolt]

1s being boring = i bad

[brittle zenith]

I probably smell like flowers and rose blossoms 🥰

[nimble rivet]

what do you even do when vs arya or harley

run around hoping they actually want to interact lol

[nimble rivet]

yeah youre bad

LMAO

[orchid bolt]

exactly

[orchid bolt]

im amazing dude

[brittle zenith]

Nah he ain't wrong 2s is definitely more enjoyable

[orchid bolt]

top 1

[wraith cedar]

Haven’t even played 2s

[brittle zenith]

1s is just a more competitive scene

[orchid bolt]

see and hes #1 batman

[wraith cedar]

All I play is 1s

[brittle zenith]

It works better for comp play

[wraith cedar]

Batman sucks in 2s

Any top 1s player can dominate 2s

[orchid bolt]

i stopped playing 2s bc my random partners die 3 times and i have to 1v3

only when i have a teammate

[brittle zenith]

"Let's turn the more casual fun mode into a sweaty competitive pile of garbage!" ass

[orchid bolt]

jokers super fun in 2s tho, side b controls the game and if i catch ur teammate unattended where u cant free them from my ladder theyre cooked

[wraith cedar]

<@&882349260409032746> snipe him

🙏🏾🙏🏾

[brittle zenith]

Mf 1v3? Did they switch teams?

[nimble rivet]

i got top 15 or something in 1s when beta was out

without really trying

the game isnt very hard

[brittle zenith]

I broke ZERO (0) rules

Ass isn't a blacklisted word, otherwise I wouldn't be able to say it

[wraith cedar]

U gaslight and said I said the N word

Ur cooked

L blackmail

🙏🏾🙏🏾

[orchid bolt]

i unironically have a clip of me double eliming the team while my garnet fights my balloon, and then SDing the rest of our stocks immediately after i flip the game in our favor

[brittle zenith]

MODERATOR - 14

[orchid bolt]

have not played 2s since

[brittle zenith]

Skill issue ong

[nimble rivet]

yeah some ppl u get matched with in 2s are ridiculously bad

[brittle zenith]

You bypassed filters earlier

You are the one who broke rules

[orchid bolt]

ur right tbh, i shouldve flew to her house and taken her controller

[brittle zenith]

You essentially just self reported when you think about it

[nimble rivet]

i know im not in for a fun match whenever a rick and morty character is in my team

[brittle zenith]

Fr

[brittle zenith]

I avoid 2s for this reason

I only play with friends when I'm on 2s

[orchid bolt]

real and my friends do not play as frequently as i

[wispy adder]

Do try to keep your general tone respectful, even in situations of disagreement. This isn't a formal warning but just a gentle reminder.

Looking in to the the second thing that was said.

[wraith cedar]

😂😂😂😂😂

@brittle zenith wya???

[wispy adder]

You need to stop antagonising others, as well. Looking through your chat history isn't very pleasant.

[wraith cedar]

It’s ok Iris

Happens when ur the greatest

Didn’t mean for it to be this way

🙏🏾🙏🏾

[nimble rivet]

once i was playing with my friend and we got matched against a morty with 5500+ morty wins

crazy

[orchid bolt]

if i started playing batman tomorrow did u know ud be #4

[wraith cedar]

Great u wouldn’t beat me that’s all that matters

[orchid bolt]

the shock and awe from my raw skill and martial prowess 😏 would debilitate you and cause you to perform off your game, falling 2 additional rankings 😼

[wraith cedar]

😂😂

[orchid bolt]

heh, i get that reaction a lot

[wraith cedar]

(Sigma noises)

[orchid bolt]

i wish i could use gifs in this server man 😭

[wraith cedar]

💀

there needs to be another server for this game that super toxic no moderators with everyone in it

[hollow perch]

I'm sure that would go over very well. 🙄

[balmy jolt]

where tf am i supposed to DI out of the loop

up and out?

someone help

lmfao

[brittle zenith]

I was busy helping someone with a different game instead

[brittle zenith]

What loop?

[wraith cedar]

Jab, air side special, up tilt, up air, upspecial

Aaaaandd ur done

[orchid bolt]

air down special

he forgot air down special, very important

[balmy jolt]

jab

jab

jab

jab

into anything

[orchid bolt]

jab jab dodge jab jab?

[balmy jolt]

there’s no way to DI out

yea

[orchid bolt]

cry

and pray theyre bad

(buff joker)

[brittle zenith]

You cant DI jab

One of the things that comes with removing attack decay is looping jabs

Basically anyone can do it

[orchid bolt]

can jason bc people keep dodging out of it

[brittle zenith]

Apparently only with jab 1

[nimble rivet]

I gotta be honest

i really really hate fighting rick

god

[oblique shuttle]

how

[brittle zenith]

He has really long combos

[oblique shuttle]

eh

[balmy jolt]

morty’s can’t loop lmfao

make every jab like morty’s 🤷

[brittle zenith]

Remove Morty from the game for being a baby

[balmy jolt]

:/

[oblique shuttle]

dog char

d tier

[fallow creek]

I mean I’d disagree cause rly he just has his jab

That’s kinda abt it..

[brittle zenith]

His portals make his combos insane

[fallow creek]

True actually forgot abt that

If he doesn’t mess it up yeah

But most of the time they do

[brittle zenith]

Get better then

[fallow creek]

True info

What joker perk should I use btw

Or is it just a preference

[novel temple]

I say explosive card

[fallow creek]

How early can it kill?

Assuming their like

At the ledge

[novel temple]

I think the earliest I've gotten was 40 or 60? near the edge and when catching people jumping near the top on mid and lightweights

[brittle zenith]

Explosive card

Objectively

[stiff vine]

KrispyKrinkle I know you're in here. GG's.

[brittle zenith]

GGs

[stiff vine]

lmao no way that was you, I see you all the time in the superman discord

*channel

[brittle zenith]

I'm lying that was not me I am not KrispyKrinkle

[orchid bolt]

bro is KrispyKrinkle

[thick current]

I really need to get better with airwalk

[brittle zenith]

Is your pfp AI generated now? Unfortunate if it is

[thick current]

I needed a good pfp with a shark in jar and sabers

It's too specific haha

[brittle zenith]

Draw it in MS Paint

Something about crappy MS Paint drawings has so much soul in it

[thick current]

I'm a musician, not an artist!

[brittle zenith]

They're the same thing

[frail trench]

What perks do you guys use for joker? He's my 2s main, also do y'all tend to take opponents upwards or off the sides?

[gloomy orbit]

upwards def

[true stratus]

Weird theory that I have:

Part of the reason Joker’s up tilt is so crazy is to make up for his cards being kind of a bad move

A really fun bad move

But… still a bad move

[frail trench]

I also take him upwards the only time I've actually gone horizontally was when I was matched with a Jason who didn't know how to play

[true stratus]

And also because if that’s not what they were going for with that move genuinely what were they thinking giving that move to a zoner

[frail trench]

Is he even really a zoner at this point? I use pugilist with him because his melee is insane

[fallow creek]

I love Jorker

[gloomy orbit]

ily too (i don't)

[forest compass]

guys

i need joker perks

[ripe juniper]

What's the bread and butter combo at 0?

[sudden dagger]

Wildcard, flammable, air walker or last stand or speed force, pugilist

[stiff vine]

Cards is a bad move? In what way? It's a fairly fast, angle-able projectile that can mix up the opponent or even kill if you use the perk.

[shadow helm]

jabx2>dodge-cancel>jabx2>iad>Dair>down-b>Uair (dodge-cancel>Uair on some characters) thats the 0td

[fallow creek]

I hate to ask but how good is air walker over the last stand?

[brittle zenith]

It depends, do you want stronger air combos and 0tds or to get an earlier chance at killing when you're at 100%?

[brittle zenith]

His cards are great wdym

The diamond can be good for applying additional pressure when edge guarding, the heart card has saved me from being combod many times and since it can combo into utilt I've gotten a dozen kills off of it, and the spades cards are quick, solid damage cards which can also be used to break armor and approach fast

Theres also the 4th card from his signature, which has homing, a solid 10 damage, an okay blast range, I believe it breaks armor, and it kills pretty early

[fallow creek]

When should I use the platform? Ik thats kinda a dumb question but is there just a time where I should always use it

[brittle zenith]

Personal preference tbh

I dont like it because I prefer my funny air parries

[fallow creek]

Aight Ig ill try it

[nocturne sierra]

Airwalker is good but you gotta know what you're doing to really get use out of it

It has uses mid combo and you can also use it to get high value reads midair

If you catch someone out of the air with an airwalker jab they just die

And airwalker handshake can catch people off guard

[brittle zenith]

Honestly airwalker handshake might be fire

I like the handshake more than parry especially at higher %

But in the air near the blast zone? Would be disgusting

[orchid bolt]

I love it, u can dodge right after on IG and continue to bully him

[wind shell]

this is a great idea. i never see any jokers actually using that move. its pretty strong

[fallow creek]

wxc

gg

[candid berry]

Heg

[ripe juniper]

I fought another joker today, he was so toxic, he was teabagging, taunting and emoting at every opportunity, I wanna be like him. 🃏

[brittle zenith]

Loser

[orchid bolt]

W joker

if u don't bow after every stock what're u playing for

[ripe juniper]

Facts

[sudden dagger]

I’m to busy charging teeth to taunt

[ripe juniper]

taunting > resources

[sudden dagger]

in my experience taunting just makes my opponent lock in and then I get stomped into oblivion

[orchid bolt]

charge teeth while theyre looking at you then spot dodge whatevr they use to stop you (if its not a zoner)

if lucky or get timing right you parry, if timing wrong u still dodge andd just start combo with freshly charged teeth

[nocturne sierra]

W teeth users

Most jokers don't even use that move it's so good though

[stiff vine]

how on earth did they think Joker's explosive card was okay lmao

[nocturne sierra]

Yeah it's insane to be able to randomly get a card that just kills

[ripe juniper]

Yeah, I used that move against a batman to shut down all of his horizontal approaches.
Grapple hook? Nah, get bitted
Batarang? Nah, nom nom
Slide? Nope, those toes are getting nibbled as we speak (more lab needed to confirm, I think it trades and denies the second hit)

[nocturne sierra]

It's a great move to combo after jab too

[brittle zenith]

Probably because its random so it cant just be spammed

Like WWs sair

Which is strong and can be mashed

The card definitely needs a bit less kill power though

Killing basically anyone at 100% for free because you "got lucky" is a bit goofy

[night wraith]

after expanding my knowledge of the cast it made me realise how cheap joker can be

[granite berry]

The Joker is great I can't help but like em.

[clear cairn]

Joker really is the character that is so overplayed that you feel who is good and who isnt almost instantly

[orchid bolt]

me scamming people in bracket by throwing a card while recovering at 100+ and they instantly explode

[orchid bolt]

not even last week it was the opposite, nobody had him and nobody knew or cared where he was

i wonder when everybody caught on and bought joker

a content creator had to say something

[clear cairn]

Yeah ik something must have happend I faced 1 joker all 10 - 20 matches and now im facing 8 all 10 matches

[orchid bolt]

we snuck through patch 1 but we might be getting complaint nerfs in the next patch

it better be the banana treatment and we get 2 damage off side b

[clear cairn]

I still dont know how harley and joker got through patch 1

[orchid bolt]

😭

[clear cairn]

And what did they thought would it do if they nerf banana side damage by 2? Its not the damage its the KNOCKBACK

Some big youtube must have given a shoutout to joker and superman I see them everywhere

[sudden dagger]

People like mirror man and bltzZ and hungrybox put him in top 3 in their tier lists

[mellow thicket]

Safe balance patch L, highly doubt they even playtested anything and didn't want to hand out nerfs or buffs too big without testing

[sudden dagger]

probably why they didn’t buff characters like Jason and Velma who desperately need it

[orchid bolt]

so that's why people have been saying joker top 3

me when i can't form my own opinion

baaaaa 🐑
joker top 3 baaaaaa

[sudden dagger]

I don’t even think he’s top 3

[orchid bolt]

I've just seen it a lot the past few days

[sudden dagger]

top 5 sure but top 3 is a insanely high bar

[brittle zenith]

They're not problematic (devs main them)

[clear cairn]

Yeah Harley, WW and joker are not Problematic (devs nerf them please)

[brittle zenith]

They will not be nerfed, they're developer favorites

[clear cairn]

I can even see WW being Buffed

Because its nakats main

[brittle zenith]

"She can be whiff punished, I shouldnt get her nerfed" - NAKAT

[orchid bolt]

Whaaaaat

You can whiff punish a character in a fight game?

SINCE WHEN?

They should buff her if this proves true

How dare you get punished for just throwing moves out and boxing air

[brittle zenith]

What if Jokers dtilt actually hit its full usage instead of dropping enemies and giving me whiff frames so I get looped for 60+ damage?

[fluid tree]

I can't tell if it's more or less consistent with charge ngl. it's dope and I want it to be a part of my main combo route but I can't get it to land without dropping consistently

[orchid bolt]

Varies per character

If they look like a bobblehead do half charge

heavies and big bodies can take full charge

noodles its not worth trying

small people half charge or 75%

[mellow thicket]

Jab loop still active?

Saw the blurb about removing loops in the game and I'm tryna figure out what is still in

[brittle zenith]

Basically everyone can jab loop yeah

[mellow thicket]

Hmm

Then what did they even remove

[orchid bolt]

where u see

[orchid bolt]

@brittle zenith did u ever fix ur controller settings

default has stopped working and my downs are now neutral inputs

[brittle zenith]

I set my dead zones back to default and it's still inputting wrong

[orchid bolt]

just lost 0-4 to a Finn with crazy 0tds but they weren't technically true

[open peak]

yo ima buy joker

any good?

[orchid bolt]

i kept trying to down b above him and it would never come out, so much pain

didn't even try any combos outside of side b bc they would flop too 😭

[brittle zenith]

Currently like high A maybe low S yeah

[orchid bolt]

im gonna have to sit joker down until my controller heals from this

[open peak]

better than bugs though

bugs insane

[brittle zenith]

Bugs is broken

[clear cairn]

Isnt the joker card supposed to be random?

[clear cairn]

Joker is at least mid to high S

[orchid bolt]

no and no

oh wait jokers wild? yes and no

[clear cairn]

Yes joker is at least mid S

[clear cairn]

How does his Wildcard work then?

[nocturne sierra]

joker is mid S at least

top 4 minimum

[clear cairn]

Yes top 4 but I would even say top 3

[orchid bolt]

i think the order of ur wilds is predetermined

bc in practice mode if you get a wild you can cycle to it over and over every reset, and it changes if you start a new session

1000% guessing tho

[clear cairn]

So that's why the joker I faced had more Wild cards than normal cards

[orchid bolt]

i also fought one like that and it was so goddamn annoying

bro got 11 wilds, i smell foul play

[orchid bolt]

i wish i got his name bc if it's the same joker he's fr counting cards 😂

[clear cairn]

He is easy to locate because he is evo 2022 place 13th

I played 7 matches against him and he had at least a 80% chance to throw a wild card

[orchid bolt]

Pugx?

dude cooked me in a wifi tourney 💀

[clear cairn]

Let me look

No MVShirogane evo 2022 place 13th

[orchid bolt]

shared 13 ig

[clear cairn]

How is that possible

That 2 people have the same place

[orchid bolt]

he said it was duos tourney

[nocturne sierra]

yes evo was duos

[clear cairn]

Ngl I can't even find their names in the top 16 livestream

[clear cairn]

Buy they weren't a duo how are they the same place

[nocturne sierra]

In an elimination bracket people who get eliminated in the same round have the same placement

[clear cairn]

How can they get eliminated in the same round? Maybe I'm confused right now but I never saw it in a smash tourney that people have the same place?

[ripe juniper]

For placement ties like that, the tie breaker should obviously be decided by alphabetical order or a rap battle.

[clear cairn]

Yeah I thought they need to do a Dance battle and a eating competition if that happens

[brittle zenith]

And it is!

[clear cairn]

So he is just the luckiest guy then ig

[brittle zenith]

Yeah

[clear cairn]

7 matches and he throws more joker cards then normal ones

[brittle zenith]

He's gotta be cheating

[clear cairn]

Every 10 seconds a joker card flew in my face I was going insane

[shadow helm]

for your controler can you plug it into a pc and go to a controller checker site

might just be drift

[brittle zenith]

There might be a way to make it consistent, how often did he shuffle his deck?

[clear cairn]

If joker doesn't get nerfed in the next patch my opinion of pfg and WB would drop below nexon

[clear cairn]

I honestly have no idea what you are even talking about😭

[brittle zenith]

When joker crouched he starts shuffling a deck of cards

Did he do that a lot

[clear cairn]

Oh that's why the first thing he was doing when the match starts was crouch

[clear cairn]

Only at the start I think

[brittle zenith]

Either theres a bug where doing that makes the joker card more common or he just hates the diamond card

[clear cairn]

First card he used was always either joker or heart

[brittle zenith]

And it should be, if he shuffles at the start of the round, he skips the diamond card

[clear cairn]

Only cards he used all those 7 matches were the heart joker and at rare occasions the triple one

[brittle zenith]

He's either abusing a bug or flat out cheating

[clear cairn]

Don't think a evo place 13th would cheat on his main account

Wouldn't be worth it

[brittle zenith]

Not like EAC is gonna catch him

Garbage anti cheat

[clear cairn]

Can you shuffle the cards on a ledge?

[brittle zenith]

If you can crouch you can shuffle

[clear cairn]

Ok you can't crouch there

[brittle zenith]

Yep

[clear cairn]

Idk then

[orchid bolt]

lord please let joker live through this patch

[sudden dagger]

there’s no way that he doesn’t get nerfed this patch

his 0td is definitely getting removed

[brittle zenith]

Worst nerf he gets is his down b does 1 less damage and his jab 2 does 300 billion knockback and instantly kills at 0% (so he cant loop jab!)

[stray gulch]

Next patch we might be dusted, oomfies

[mellow thicket]

Wow they actually did it

They actually got rid of the jab combos I'm suprised

Good thing for sure

[sudden dagger]

so uh about the patch

what do we think

[orchid bolt]

i think jokers cooked

but WW is cooked too since she got the same copy-paste message

[nocturne sierra]

Joker is gonna be fine

[orchid bolt]

i have fear

[nocturne sierra]

We'll have to see how significant the side special nerf is

[sudden dagger]

the side special nerf only applys on whiff

[orchid bolt]

just don't whiff

[nocturne sierra]

Oh right

[orchid bolt]

but that was just a taste, still scared

[sudden dagger]

in my eyes he basically got a slap on the wrist

[nocturne sierra]

He's still a top tier easily I'd imagine

[orchid bolt]

the side special nerf feels like it shouldve been in the game from the start

[sudden dagger]

if you somehow managed to whiff the side special you deserve to get hit

[orchid bolt]

fr

[nocturne sierra]

True

[orchid bolt]

all spammers should be punished

[nocturne sierra]

And jab loops do not matter on joker people are just gonna have to learn his actual combos now

[orchid bolt]

I truly never did a jab loop ever bc it's a waste of time

[sudden dagger]

I think it does remove his 0td

[orchid bolt]

his actual combos just kill

[sudden dagger]

don’t quote me on that

[nocturne sierra]

He definitely has 0tds without jab loops lmao

[sudden dagger]

oh

well then he’s still top tier

[orchid bolt]

yeah he has ztds off jab 1, jab 1 + jab 2, side special, air down special, dair 😭

[sudden dagger]

I forgot the combo

[orchid bolt]

its really just where are you on the map and what did you hit

(And can your opponent DI/can you read it)

[nocturne sierra]

It's not just 1 combo it depends on the situation really

[orchid bolt]

yeah he just ladders really easily

[sudden dagger]

weird how wonder woman’s meter goes away after death now but jokers doesn’t

[orchid bolt]

he needs it

die for the charge

[nocturne sierra]

Some of them DI doesn't matter

[orchid bolt]

i hit this on accident today first game back on joker, gonna upload it to clips and link

[brittle zenith]

Not with NAKAT protecting her

[orchid bolt]

the devs said she had it coming, i hope it's not one baby change

[brittle zenith]

+2 whiff frames on sair
-1 damage from dtilt
Lasso now has a 8.1 second cooldown

[sudden dagger]

get nakat out of the balance room this instant

[orchid bolt]

#clips message

[sudden dagger]

I’m so tired of Wonder Woman

[brittle zenith]

She can be whiff punished dude!!!

[orchid bolt]

💀💀💀 that was not even supposed to be a ztd it was just a bad map for that dude

[brittle zenith]

She doesnt need nerfs you can whiff punish her!

[sudden dagger]

what if she has shield up

then what

[orchid bolt]

whiff punish it

[nocturne sierra]

Whiff punish with air neutral special then

[mellow thicket]

It's ok more nerfs are coming

[orchid bolt]

i think we might get it worse than her

down special nerfs incoming

[mellow thicket]

Immediately under this nerf it says more nerfs are coming in a future patch

[sudden dagger]

we are most definitely getting it worse than her

[mellow thicket]

Joker and ww getting hit next patch though 💀

[sudden dagger]

doomsday is coming in about a week

[orchid bolt]

i honestly don't think joker needs nerfs

not serious nerfs

but that blurb told us nothing

[nocturne sierra]

He does though

[sudden dagger]

I think he does need toned back a bit

[orchid bolt]

never, joker bottom 20

bottom 21

[brittle zenith]

No he needs buffs

He ain't even hit his S tier phase yet

[orchid bolt]

he hit his complaint phase and that's what the devs base balance on

[brittle zenith]

We need to stop letting casuals control balancing

[orchid bolt]

somebody on stream somewhere lost to joker and we're getting nerfs bc of it

[brittle zenith]

The average player doesn't break silver

We can not trust the balancing choices of the average player

[nocturne sierra]

And the top players say he's top 4

[orchid bolt]

LIARS

[nocturne sierra]

So are we listening to the good players who say he's broken or the bad players who also say he's broken

[orchid bolt]

he's bottom 25

[nocturne sierra]

True actually

[sudden dagger]

he’s bottom 50 honestly

still not worse than Velma tho

[brittle zenith]

He's NOT top 4 dawg 😭

I don't trust MVS player opinions

The casuals are too ass to understand balancing, thats why they gutted shaggys side b in the beta

The competitive players are babies about any character that isn't their main

[frosty escarp]

Yes but we dont trust people who wants velma nerfed after they made her playable

[brittle zenith]

It's a joke

If she does get nerfed though

That would be pretty funny

Help to get her nerfed

If enough people say she needs nerfs, PFG will nerf her regardless of how good she really is

And it would be funny

[frosty escarp]

No they would have a sense of knowledge on their own game

[brittle zenith]

LMAOOO

[nocturne sierra]

Bro even the joker players say he's busted

[brittle zenith]

PFG DOESNT PLAY TEST LMAO

[brittle zenith]

He was carried by jab

[nocturne sierra]

He wasn't

[brittle zenith]

Nerf his 0td and he'll be bottom 5

[nocturne sierra]

Jab loops didn't matter if people actually took the time to learn his combos

[brittle zenith]

Jab loop into combo

[nocturne sierra]

But nobody did since it was easier to just mash dodge

Jab dodge*

[orchid bolt]

or an enhanced sense of bias

[orchid bolt]

i think he's for sure up there but it's not the free win character people say he is

people hear top players say he's good and just ride it all night long

[nocturne sierra]

Oh he's definitely not free wins

But nobody is

[orchid bolt]

it validates all their losses to joker immediately

now it's not their fault and the devs need to deal with him NOW

[nocturne sierra]

And jokers biggest strength is defensive play which you don't really see much on ladder

[wind shell]

hes pretty close

[nocturne sierra]

He's a very hard character to approach if the player knows how to space well

[orchid bolt]

C

uve been infected by the worms

get back to downplaying

Kazuya mains had everyone convinced he was bottom 3 for a month

[wind shell]

jokers are carried lol. you can deny all you want

[orchid bolt]

🧠 🪱

[subtle holly]

Everyone knows that all Joker players are only as good as their jokes.

[orchid bolt]

comedy scaling

[wind shell]

great point. why dont you try picking up a mid tier and tell me how it goes

[orchid bolt]

i don't believe you're one of us so i won't give you my honest opinion

enemy spy

joker bottom 4

[wind shell]

im certainly not a joker main lol. i have standards

[orchid bolt]

yeah joker bottom 5 ill give you that

roam elsewhere complainer

[nocturne sierra]

I used to be a joker main but I switched to Jason because he's more fun

[orchid bolt]

i was also switching to Jason but he's so bad it hurts
batman is still really fun tho

[wind shell]

im not complaining lol. just stating facts. most jokers online are flowchart bots

[nocturne sierra]

Jason has felt pretty good to me outside of a few matchups

[orchid bolt]

u are complaining, and the salt from your tears is giving me high blood pressure

i can feel the diagnosis coming

[wind shell]

wanna run a set?

[orchid bolt]

I wanna run AWAY
from you

u smell

[wind shell]

guess youre one of those bot jokers i was talking about

[subtle holly]

C tier comedy scaling

[orchid bolt]

better than D tier

[subtle holly]

That is how letters work

[orchid bolt]

i just don't want my nostrils to melt from being in the same lobby as u

what do i gain from fighting u
if i win im carried if i lose im a bot

ur just a baby

cry elsewhere, i am not ur father

[wind shell]

thats what i thought 🙂

[orchid bolt]

i bet it is buddy 😭

[west remnant]

i just got enough credits to buy joker lol

think its not worth with the nerfs incoming?

[brittle zenith]

Not worth if you lack prestige (100k)

Otherwise fire ass skin

[west remnant]

im taljing about the character

[brittle zenith]

Irrelevant

Cosmetics >>

[orchid bolt]

put it on pause until after

hes very fun

and very easy

[cosmic stump]

no way we think that that 1 little nerf is gonna hurt joker that bad

[orchid bolt]

the ominous message

as far as ik nobody in the room got love for joker

[grizzled otter]

thats because he is annoying and overpowered. probably because pfg wants to push people in buying him for 6k fc lol

[brittle zenith]

He's not even as good as some other cheaper characters though

[grizzled otter]

sure but he's still better than like 80% of the current roster

[orchid bolt]

that kills ur argument then

costs more to push people to be on the same level or lower than the better and cheaper characters?

[grizzled otter]

ye ik which is probably why his nerfs are getting delayed. it is to incentivize people who bought him for 6k

but his nerf is inevitable

[brittle zenith]

Airwalker has GOTTA be removed

We HAVE to get rid of it

[mellow thicket]

Bruh people who just don't engage and sit in corners💀

Makes me rage fr

Joker nerfs please💀💀

[sand phoenix]

I never have the patience to camp like that, which might be why I lose with some characters who really should be camping, but dammit I just wanna get in and fight pfft

[undone tinsel]

As someone who mains a top, a mid, and a bottom tier, going into each of these channels is fascinating

[brittle zenith]

Ong why would I fish for jabs in the corner when I could run headfirst into the enemies attacks and hit them with a sickle?

[brittle zenith]

Joker must be your bottom tier, who are your top and mid tiers?

[undone tinsel]

Marvin channel is just vibing and endlessly figuring that character out

Velma channel, same but it’s instead trying to make the character work lol. The complaints have been slowly going down

And this channel, Joker gets the lightest of taps and will be nerfed to A tier at the highest, and I’m seeing “doomsday” in here lol

I wonder what the WW channel is like

[undone tinsel]

Ya he’s terrible, that cannon needs to be a permanent field hazard

[sand phoenix]

that actually sounds like a fun idea for a perk, it sits around and fires off like, three shots like jerrys bottle

[brittle zenith]

The cannon fires 3 shots and follows the Joker

[undone tinsel]

I’d really like that, because in the current state it’s kind of just an okay move

[brittle zenith]

Like a sentry turret

But the shots are weaker

Neutral b might be my favorite edge guard tool

Its so funny

[undone tinsel]

Wanna handshake?

[brittle zenith]

Bugs main hiding on the ledge trying to uair you? Neutral b.

[undone tinsel]

Also Joker has the coolest skin in the game, which makes sense considering the cost

[brittle zenith]

It might be the funniest attack in the game

[brittle zenith]

Yeah BWL is so fire dude

[undone tinsel]

It’s too bad Laughs interacts with like no characters 💀

[brittle zenith]

He has voicelines for Shaggy, Black Adam, and Batman confirmed (they dont have voicelines for him though) so I'm praying he's bugged

[sand phoenix]

funny enough, there are two things preventing me from always using the BWL
one, I like hearing mark hamil,
but the main reason, the voice lines seem really weird right now
like they seem so much louder then everyone else, and the wrong ones play all the time and the subtitles don't match (which that last one isn't a problem if you don't use em)

like he always talks like he's fighting batman, and then the one time he does fight batman he uses the black adam lines lol

its not that big of a deal, but its weird pfft

[brittle zenith]

When fighting Joker, he uses Shaggy voicelines lmao

[sand phoenix]

its just oddly distracting, so I just stick with normal joker pff

[sudden dagger]

damn really

the whole reason Im grinding the battle pass is to get enough currency to buy that skin

[sand phoenix]

its still a really cool skin, it was like the first thing I got cus all my beta cosmetics allowed me enough to get it
but I mostly got it to have it lol

[sudden dagger]

ehhh still like it more than everything else in the store

and the bugs will (hopefully) get fixed

[sand phoenix]

its such weird bugs too, but yeah hopefully they'll be fixed by the time we get a new character

[brittle zenith]

It's still one of the coolest skins in the game

He also has changes in his attacks like his jab 1 isn't a fish but a chain and his jab 3, uair, and utilt aren't crowbars they're sickles

[sand phoenix]

this fish is funny, silly ah joker fish

[sudden dagger]

legally tied to the joker brand fish

[sand phoenix]

I always love the references PFG slips into movesets
like you have so many fun stuff
the fish from the animated series, the bang flag gun which is just classic for joker, and the crowbar... the crowbar he uh, yeah the crowbar c:

[brittle zenith]

Poor Jason

[sudden dagger]

wish he got a Arkham reference of some kind

but it probably wouldn’t fix in with the tone of the game

[sand phoenix]

I think the tone of the game is a funny thing considering the very crunchy sound design of jason

[brittle zenith]

He has a reference to killing a kid with a crowbar

[sudden dagger]

fair point

also if he did get a Arkham reference it could end up being tied to

uh

the hellspawn

[sand phoenix]

theres also the killing joke skin
where he paralyzes a pregnant woman iirc

so the tone
hard to say

[sudden dagger]

more I think about it the more I realize the tone of this game is all over the place

[sand phoenix]

I mean like I said, jason voorhees, if you really listen to his sound design, he doesn't feel censored like at all

like the sleeping bag, slamming it against the ground and hearing some very crunchy sounds

the slices and stabbing

[sudden dagger]

Jason’s sound design is one of the things I like most about him

every hit sounds amazing

[sand phoenix]

but yeah, the games tone is really funny considering what gets referenced sometimes

[brittle zenith]

Dont forget about the Batman Who Laughs, who killed entire justice leagues, sacrifices anyone he wants, kidnapped and poisoned heroes, killed kids for fun, etc.

[sand phoenix]

he even has a line where hes like "if my boys ever grew up to be like you, I'd kill them myself"

[brittle zenith]

Fr

[sand phoenix]

I love how there isn't really any censorship in this game
Like there is obviously no blood or anything, but even someone like jason still feels plenty brutal

of course I don't see them adding ripping people in half if they ever add a mortal kombat character but I'm sure they could still make it work

[brittle zenith]

There is blood, if you turn on gore mode and your account is 22 or over

[ripe juniper]

There are rumors that the silly yellow ninja from mortal Kombat is coming to the game

[sudden dagger]

now you get to watch scorpion brutally kill a child

yippee!

[brittle zenith]

Steven deserves it

[sudden dagger]

What about Arya

[brittle zenith]

Arya isn't gross and ew like Steven

[sand phoenix]

steven deserves everything comin to em

[misty sierra]

Say what are some good matchups for joker

also how to counter ww

[orchid bolt]

SAME, that and moonwalk jason

i should have the prestige to get it already but they robbed me

[sudden dagger]

well actually the banner is kinda cool to

[orchid bolt]

my beta cosmetics werent in my inventory and just slowly got filtered in (with no prestige granted) over the course of the patches and shop updates

[sudden dagger]

I must’ve of gotten extremely lucky because everything was there for me at launch

[sand phoenix]

I think I have everything from the beta, nothing noticeable was missing at least

altho I do think I'm missing one banner (I wasn't using) which is that boot of amour one, I think that one was in the battlepass in the beta but I could be wrong

[sudden dagger]

I have so many banners and pfp that I genuinely can’t tell if I don’t have one or not

[sand phoenix]

I looked it up and I didn't see boot of armor in either battlepass, so I could just be crazy
not that it matters since I only use looney tunes profile cosmetics really lol

naturally if I was missing something I actively used I would notice, but when you only really use one set of cosmetics you wouldn't even know if other ones went missing

[brittle zenith]

Outplay her

I like to use my cards to break armor from her down b and to get a bit of damage when she's in the air

Your air neutral b breaks armor but the knockback is a bit weird

Ground neutral b is great for WW, as long as she doesn't use her nair, you'll deflect the attack, break her armor, deal damage, and knock her back

You have to be careful though

If it doesn't land, you're cooked

Your side b is pretty good in neutral

Sair handles her pretty well too, as it's got a decent amount of reach so you're pretty safe with it

[sudden dagger]

air side b also breaks armor due to the multi hit

[brittle zenith]

The game is a bit slow after each hit so that hasn't been working out too well for me

Even if I hit it, she just hits me back before the next hit comes out

[cosmic stump]

bro i thought i was CRAZY

like the games FEELS alot slower then normal right?

im like wth is this i had no issue with the first speed nerf but now im sad it feels too slow now

[maiden kindle]

What have you learned fighting against BA @brittle zenith

[brittle zenith]

He's busted and kills way too early
Thankfully most of them try and play him as brain dead as Shaggy

[maiden kindle]

Yeah I’ve ran into a few good ones though, and his area control is just insane @brittle zenith

Might be hardest matchup for joker

I’m trying to learn new ways to play against him

[marsh meteor]

did they make it so you can't chain side bs anymore

[candid berry]

Naw nerf this char rn

[orchid bolt]

u mean buff

[sudden dagger]

nah

they only nerfed it on whiff not on hit

[undone tinsel]

Which honestly is fair nerf

I think more characters should be able to kill as easily as Joker does tbh

Instead of nerfing him

[orchid bolt]

yeah nobody should live to see 150 in a game like this

(unless ur really really bad)

[brittle zenith]

Bro never heard of iron giant or that AGONIZING TREE FORT MAP

WHY IS IT SO BIG

I HATE 2S SO MUCH

IT IS SUCH A BAD GAME MODE

[sand phoenix]

dexters lab 2 is also pretty big too isn't it, or at least very high

some maps are just big so its harder to kill sometimes

[sudden dagger]

thank Christ they removed dexters lab 1

that map seems horrible

[brittle zenith]

Yeah way too big to be a 1v1 map

[sand phoenix]

they should have made it just like the map it was based on and make it just wario ware
shrink those blast zones like geez

[brittle zenith]

I love when my fully charged utilt doesn't kill at like 150 because the map is so damn big that I need the most precise and fast ladder combo of the century to get a kill

[molten dove]

Dexter lab right?

[brittle zenith]

Nah treefort on 2s
Dexters lab a fully charged utilt will only fail to kill like Jason or heavier at 150

[sullen geode]

men love spamming the taser hand against shaggy spam kickers

[brittle zenith]

Handshake might be the funniest move in the game

[broken rampart]

I thought it was only on wiff but in training cpu set to dodge can dodge it now when they couldn't before. I guess it was changed overall

[molten dove]

Oh, I only play 1vs1, but some characters don't die at 100 from a utilt practicaly fully charged in Dexters Lab (2), thats annoying in my opinion

[brittle zenith]

I only play 1s until my friend hops on

[molten dove]

At first a friend and I played like that too, but since we both come from Smash Ult. we are more used to 1vs1

[marsh meteor]

Then I'm just bad because I can't seem to link them anymore

Rip

[broken rampart]

no cause i play 1s and 2s and it doesn't link

[brittle zenith]

You can still link side b

[marsh meteor]

If they can dodge out are you just canceling it too slow?

[sullen geode]

I love the jokers laugh when it catches someone

[broken rampart]

please show me how then cause i will go in training and show you that every character can perry it

parry*

[brittle zenith]

You have to be REALLY fast with it and it does seem to be a bit inconsistent but there's definitely a way to do it

[broken rampart]

im sorry not being mean - it isn't about how fast you do it

i am buffering it so it's coming out as quickly as possible

it does not connect

[brittle zenith]

Idk what you're doing wrong then

Maybe angling it wrong or something idk

I was dragging the Shaggy bot up as I hit him

[broken rampart]

do you have him set to dodge?

or do you have the ability to send a video and show me?

in case i am just doing something wrong

[brittle zenith]

Yes

[broken rampart]

Ill try to set up my instant replace to see

[nocturne sierra]

nah i don't think every character killing at 0 off one interaction is healthy for the game tbh

[brittle zenith]

It actually is! Hope this helps!

But nah fr it's kinda vile

I got a kill on Bugs at 18% at the very start of the match one time

Mostly his fault though

He's the one that jumped up high to use a horizontal rocket

He was just asking for me to side b > uair him

[sudden dagger]

why the hell would you ever put yourself above joker

that’s a death wish

[undone tinsel]

Eh I suppose I haven't seen a true 0-death from Joker yet but tbh I play this game pretty casually right now lol

[brittle zenith]

He has like 9

He's broken

Only thing that separates him from other S tiers is he doesn't have an infinite

[wraith cedar]

Is today the last day to grind top dog. Because last time the day it said it was ending on was the day to claim rewards???

[marsh meteor]

i wouldn't focus too much on his zero to deaths, 2 touching someonew is way easier and repeatable

[brittle zenith]

It's the exact same thing

[undone tinsel]

Ah gotcha gotcha lol

[undone tinsel]

There's no pressure to grind top dog, it's recurring

[wind shell]

this character is so lazy. looking forward to next patch

[final eagle]

Will the bp alone be enough to get the Batman who laughs💀idk, I really hope so

[final eagle]

Same👍I’ll try to get top 10 but idk if I will grind that much

[undone tinsel]

Made me SO happy to have played a lot in beta, I had just enough gold to get it outright lol

Prestige*

[final eagle]

Damn😭lucky🙏

[undone tinsel]

Love Joker so much

Which is why it’s a little sad that the character I’ve put the most time into since the official launch has been Marvin

Who has like no drip for skins lol

And then Velma who was my beta main anyway

[brittle zenith]

Definitely not

You'll need much more than that

2 or 3 more BPs will maybe get you to it

You will get some of your prestige back after buying it though which is neat (9600)

[final eagle]

Damm😭

[brittle zenith]

I actually need to calculate how much prestige a battlepass will give you

I think digitalspork already made a chart showing how much prestige everything gives so I can just use that and count

[gloomy orbit]

don't think so

i saw on reddit that u'll get around 40-60k

[void cove]

What are the best perks for duos? I have a duo

And I use
Joker's Wild
That's Flammable, Doc! we both use this
2 Fast 2 Block
Pugilist

[wind basin]

Hey my challenge for pogoing with Joker is glitched. 4/2 pogos, makes the whole system feel like it was glued together by chimps.

[brittle zenith]

I personally prefer last stand over 2f2b

Or speed force but I feel like its really overrated

5% is ridiculously low

[brittle zenith]

It was! Hope this helps!

[cosmic stump]

who else is like insanely close to getting the joker prestige skin?

[void cove]

I used to use speed buff too but 5% didnt seem to do much so i changed it

[brittle zenith]

I already have it beacuse I'm him

[void cove]

I have it too

Thanks to my beta progress

[jade hawk]

Forced to buy joker for the stupid event

[cosmic stump]

he's da goat

[jade hawk]

I'm not even a mage player

I play taz

[brittle zenith]

Ong and he's such a bad character too

PFG please for the love of God buff Joker