Wonder Woman

[final flower]

Plat 3

[dark vine]

D4 with Beetlejuice in 1v1, so by my calculations, higher

[final flower]

Nah plat 3 buddy

And that’s being generous

[final flower]

I was finna say 😭🙏🏾

[soft aurora]

I'm new to ww and hoping that someone could spare some time and teach me some combos/tech with her in a custom game. If so ide be very appreciative

and what. play shaggy or arya

shes a fun character wanna learn stuff abt her

what u want me to play then??????????/ IG or reindog or banana guard SMH

ww aint top 5

ide say finn, shaggy, arya, black adam, joker

if not black adam then batman

its whatever tho ill try to learn ww on my own

nope 🙂

ww is fun and unique to me ive never played her before

whatever u say

this whole game is well timed button mashing

[mortal mantle]

She is

[soft aurora]

So she's better/as good than joker, shaggy, arya and gizmo?

[mortal mantle]

Yes

Would say better than both Arya and Gizmo

[final flower]

Gizmo got nerfed

She’s top 5 scum

[glacial timber]

Wonder woman is probably around top 10 best case top 5.
not really ordered
Iron giant
Arya
Joker
Samurai jack
Bug bunny
Shaggy
Batman
Finn
Wonder woman

[final flower]

Scum

[final flower]

That’s the worst list ever made

[tidal sapphire]

yoooo were getting good skins next season 👀 nubia and some spikey looking one
actually the nubia looking one has a spear. idk how that will work as a skin for WW. its a new character i think

[glacial timber]

How so? It's not ordered but I'm pretty confident about the top 3 followed by either bugs or Samurai jack.

[tidal sapphire]

id put shaggy way above jack personally, but its unordered, not a bad list for 1s

[glacial timber]

I go back and forth on Shaggy. To be frank I'm unqualified to make a real list since I'm only a diamond Wonder Woman main and can't really make a good guess beside maybe match ups.

I do think Samurai Jack is easier for Wonder woman to fight then Shaggy but I've probably fought like 5x more Jack's recently so I'm better at the match up.

Everyone placement is my prospective mostly and me speculating base on what I've seen vs Wonder woman with a hint of collective whining.

[hearty hinge]

iron giant, batman, and samurai jack aren’t top 10

batman got nerfed and he’s fightable, but he’s not that high

iron giant is arguably B tier for how bad they nerfed him, and he’s easy combo food

samurai jack is shaggy but for swordie mains

spammable, strong, bruiser

but he’s fairly easy to counter in 2v2s, but 1v1s is tricky

doubles jack is horrifying though lol

[hearty hinge]

also shaggy? he’s easy to kill, you just gotta dodge the kick and his up special when at a high percentage

[dark vine]

that's crazy, my career stats say something else 💀

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself lmao

[sturdy citrus]

hes a troll lol

[final flower]

Nice coping bro

Ur skill level will always be plat 3 nice try tho

[midnight echo]

Master samurai Jack skin says otherwise bestie

[final flower]

That irrelevant that’s doesn’t determine skill lol

Someone could have boosted u or something

[midnight echo]

Boosted how?

In 1s

[surreal pecan]

[final flower]

Ik a few ppl who have had other ppl play for them

[midnight echo]

oh

i did not do that

[final flower]

Yah but u played Wonder Woman so that’s basically that’s basically the same thing

[dark vine]

boosted in 1v1 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

bro is clearly just mad at everyone better than him

[final flower]

If u play Wonder Woman it’s impossible to be better than me

[dark vine]

doubt it

[final flower]

That’s 100%

Hold this scum real fast

SCUM

[dark vine]

get a grip

[glacial timber]

Awww~ It's adorable how much you guys are feeding our troll. @final flower make sure you savor every post so you can reminisce your time on discord later ❤️

[midnight echo]

I think it's funny

[final flower]

U think being scum is funny

Scum

[soft aurora]

Sair, air neutral (double purple slash), jab2, up attack, air neutral

#combos message

I also usually go for down attack, nair, jab to up special and up attack

[spring widget]

Anyone wanna play ranked?

[final flower]

Bros trying to set ppl up for failure

[soft aurora]

Your my favorite troll in here ❤️

[final flower]

Thx bro I’ve worked hard to get here🙏🏾

[spring widget]

Lmao no im not. I swear lol

[final flower]

Ur right every WW main play with him

[spring widget]

Pls and thank you lol

[surreal pecan]

hat's up

[mental scroll]

What you think you're a neat character

[spring widget]

I do think velma is neat.

Wonder woman too

Love them both

[surreal pecan]

OKay, now i'm down to ww chainsaw

[glacial timber]

Yeah~ I hope it has a unquie sound when you hit!

[soft aurora]

Wonder Woman
● Air Side Attack
○ * Now maintains less momentum when executed after dodging off of a platform ledge to prevent a bug that was causing unintentional “extreme” travel speed (It's still fast)
● Air Down Attack
○ + Now maintains more momentum during attack start-up

ww gonna be staying good for all of eternity

[final flower]

Bro how much does the ww community pay the devs bro

[humble frigate]

They don't pay anything, they just glaze nakat

[final flower]

Bro it doesn’t even make sense she hasn’t been anything below the top 10 and they don’t do anything about it

[sleek smelt]

Prob feels wonderful knowing your character will never get nerfs huh

Ridiculous

Blegghhhh

[surreal pecan]

we pay the dev with this

[fresh cobalt]

The value of 10 billion invisible jets

[surreal pecan]

and pay with this
🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️ 🛡️

[glacial timber]

Clearly this just means wonder woman is perfectly balanced -snickers-

[tardy onyx]

All theses Wonder Woman mains in here

Swear to god if I play 3 wonder woman’s in a row I’m uninstalling

Brain dead character

[mortal mantle]

Lir

Lie

Lieelie

[final flower]

Bros stuggling

Nice ragebait tho ww always places top in 1s

[sturdy citrus]

its cause nakat character

[tidal sapphire]

They made WW like 10-20% smaller this patch

[glacial timber]

So I'm not crazy!?

[tidal sapphire]

yeah i compared photos

[glacial timber]

I wonder if her hit boxes changed as well

[tidal sapphire]

probably made everything smaller, and she cant travel as far or jump as high

[glacial timber]

I haven't noticed a difference with muscle memory

Why wouldn't something like this be mentioned?

[tidal sapphire]

i wonder if thats the reason dair was the only move that had a momentum buff

[soft aurora]

whats best sig perk?

[glacial timber]

Did they change the game mechanics at all. Air mobility feels faster in all aspects

[sturdy citrus]

yeah

[glacial timber]

Regular whip if you are good at reading dodge aways or catching people off guard.

Hep whip for hard read kills off stage.

[glacial timber]

Oh and if you want to make a Iron Giant cry Hermes whip is best.

[soft aurora]

check clips channel

first game against a ppg

[flint sparrow]

at low % what should i be going for after jab??

[midnight echo]

Is this a buff or nerf

[tidal sapphire]

nerf overall. she'll feel faster but her hitboxes are all smaller now

[fresh cobalt]

Bro why does her new battle pass skin give her a freaking chainsaw 😭

[tidal sapphire]

its the death metal WW, she needs it

[fresh cobalt]

Hm okay

Saw the death metal Batman and Superman skins too

Batman honestly looks pretty sick but idk if Superman’s vibes with me

[sleek smelt]

ANTI LIFE MENTIONED RAHHH 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

One step closer to darkseid

[glad pelican]

She can

[dark vine]

she can't

I've noticed her being much slower and floatier compared to last season

[glad pelican]

Dc into nair aint fast?

[flint sparrow]

stop smoking fent

ww feels great

[surreal pecan]

Is anyone already has WW epic skin with Chainsaw?

[flint sparrow]

derpy has it

and anyone who bought the tiers to get the PPG skin

[surreal pecan]

uhhh, does she really fight with chainsaw?
i ask because it's a bit weird that for an epic skin, she got a new weapon design (it should be legendary instead of epic imo)

[flint sparrow]

https://x.com/derpygc/status/1836293052274495830?s=46

yea she uses the chainsaw

[surreal pecan]

I think her shield looks little bit smaller than normal
But that's cool, really want to get her skin

[midnight echo]

she def feels different

side b feels slower too

[shrewd wolf]

Is it just me or is WW barely a tank compared to all the other characters under that category

feels like she’s a very weak bruiser with occasional armor options

[dark vine]

she was more akin to an assassin before this season, now more a bruiser

D5 baby

[midnight echo]

I don't understand what they changed to make her feel worse

[flint sparrow]

her character model is bugged rn

she’s smaller

[flint sparrow]

big hitboxes, armor, big damage idk

classes have never really made too much sense

[midnight echo]

So it's a mistake that they will revert?

Are they aware of it

[flint sparrow]

yea i believe so

confirmed it’s a bug

[midnight echo]

Okay

[flint sparrow]

i saw ajax in chenzy’s stream saying it shouldn’t have been changed at all

[midnight echo]

I'll hold off on ranked until they fix her maybe

[flint sparrow]

i saw another dev on twitter saying it’s a bug as well

she’s actually falling out of combos rn cause of it

[midnight echo]

Wait yeah

That happened

I fell out of superman jab down attack

Felt like smash sdi loool

[flint sparrow]

yea lmao she also falls out of jack’s jab1-2 uptilt

[midnight echo]

And I was so confused cause that's... Not in this game

[flint sparrow]

ik something else that makes her feel a little slower is dodge attack sair almost completely stops your momentum when you do it in the opposite direction

however at the same time the movement changes feel awesome on ww

[dusk haven]

not rly

[glad pelican]

Nair dc into jab

Abuse that and youll get to grand master

[surreal pecan]

with console/controller, the nair will be pretty good
but with keyboard, it's kind of predictable

[flint sparrow]

IAD it

[soft aurora]

what is dc im dumb

[soft aurora]

what is dc im dumb

[plush summit]

Whatever she they did 2 ww she is not the same. I hope they fix her soon because I'm getting punished 😅

[surreal pecan]

my keyboard is from laptop itself, that's why my movement is still kind of limited

[surreal pecan]

disconnected?

[soft aurora]

@surreal pecan this is what I'm talking about

[surreal pecan]

no idea 🤷

[soft aurora]

Maybe dodge combo? That's my best guess

[surreal pecan]

ah dodge cancel

[soft aurora]

God we r so smart

[dark vine]

they gutted the character tbh

Sure she was maybe a bit too strong last season, but now her hitboxes can't even punish some characters because she simply doesn't reach them

[dark vine]

Most of her routes don't even connect anymore, it's a guessing game what hits and what doesn't

[glad pelican]

Dude she didnt even get any changes in the patch

[dark vine]

Yes she did, her size is different, they just didn't include this info in the patch notes for whatever reason, as if changing the character fundamentally isn't an important thing to note

Meaning that her hitboxes and hurtboxes are all different

This is precisely why people keep coming here and saying "why does she feel weird?" because she isn't the same character anymore

But apparently some people here noted that the changes to her are a 'bug' and shouldn't have happened

[acoustic hollow]

Not included in the patch notes because it wasn't intended, it's a bug.

[flint sparrow]

sair loses to jack jab lol

[glacial timber]

Yeah that happened to me last night. I was very upset losing to the worst 'Master' Jack Ive fought last night partly because that happened to me twice.

[dusk haven]

Im top 2 WW already

she struggles against many characters

[solid timber]

Same here, I don't like playing her at all anymore- I hope it's fixed soon.

[midnight echo]

yoou think they're gonna fix her tomorrow

[flint sparrow]

maybe

kinda lowkey wondering if they’re gonna do a ppg hotfix

[dark vine]

ikr as soon as I saw the maintenance announcement my first thought was "they're gonna fix her"

[midnight echo]

did they fix her

[plush summit]

No they said in the next patch

[midnight echo]

:(

[flint sparrow]

LMAO

classic pfg

[dark vine]

Don't really understand how they can create such a 'bug' and then take 2 patches to fix it

[glacial timber]

Same, it probably means they don't know why she's smaller

[tidal sapphire]

Bugs usually have to go through triage approval and stuff. The stuff they patched now they probably were working on a couple weeks ago

They likely knew ppg was overtuned and had to delay pushing the fixes they felt she needed till this patch

[humble willow]

Now wonder woman is an ant

[noble wasp]

Did the update fix WW or is she still small?

[humble willow]

Still

Next patch

[ebon siren]

Can anyone help me?…ive always used ww an for context last season i was ranked diamond 2 so im not that good but im also not that bad..but i was playing today and i could not win any match all my combos that i have used doesn’t seemed to work anymore because its like almost every character ive played against just dodge out of it..out of ten matches ive only won 1 ..my true combos doesnt work either..either I’ve become really terrible now or what..if anyone thats at a higher rank ww then me plz help..i went down to gold because of it

[crude imp]

WW is finally balanced

[midnight echo]

that made her smaller (by accident?) so she just doesnt have her old combo routes

personally im waiting for them to fix her before i play ranked cause she just doesn't feel like the same char atm

[noble wasp]

Your name suggest otherwise.

[dark vine]

still don't see any point in using any other perk except for the 5%

you punish yourself from an extra full combo by using any other signature perk

[midnight echo]

i agree

[hushed token]

I find the whip of hephaestus so clutch sometimes

[mortal mantle]

No she isnt

[humble frigate]

Gets top 8 in every 2's tournaments
Doesn't get any nerf
They buff her momentum
"Balanced"

[flint sparrow]

this has some potential i still prefer the 5%

[flint sparrow]

disgraceful fellow morty player complaining in other character chats

[humble frigate]

I'm not complaining, it's more of a "You're wrong" tbh lol

[flint sparrow]

based

ww is still top tier rn

[hushed token]

Top tier but not dominant anymore

She's in a good spot

[midnight echo]

consider im a 1s player so despite the fact she is broken in 2s idrc about that

[hushed token]

I also only play 1s

[surreal pecan]

WW will gets another skin from Batman event

[flint sparrow]

anyone else notice jab jab neutral missing on certain characters recently

[tidal sapphire]

her size bug is making a lot of her combos not work and she drops out of other peoples combos easier

[soft aurora]

Yes it's because of size change they accidently made which changers her hurt box and hitbox

It's unfair for ww players because right now I know of 1 true combo that works with her and it's only 30 or so dmg

[ocean vigil]

Any good ww wanna do some 1v1 so i can practice vs her??

[dark vine]

just wait for next patch, you will automatically be better with her

[ocean vigil]

Why do you say that?

[dark vine]

because her size is bugged, all of her normal combos or strings don't work anymore

[ocean vigil]

Oh I mean I need help learning to go against her not to play her

[midnight echo]

yeah but she's bugged rn

so it would be better to wait for her to go back

[soft aurora]

Yes it's because of size change they accidently made which changers her hurt box and hitbox

That's y

[ocean vigil]

Is that why I’m struggling so much???

[soft aurora]

yes she feels different and all her moves are a little smaller than what we r used to. on mid season patch they are supposed to fix it

[ocean vigil]

Wait so does it buff her? I never struggled vs her that much but omg I couldn’t beat her

[soft aurora]

no i wouldnt say its a buff

[ocean vigil]

strange, did they make some of her attacks larger?

[soft aurora]

nope

[ocean vigil]

Weird i was getting hit by shield far above her

[plush summit]

Playing with a bugged ww is bad but on the bright side when she's fixed ill be 100 times better with her

[ocean vigil]

Is she really struggling tho?

[glacial timber]

She's 25% smaller, so all of her attacks have less range. The Finn vs WW fight made me almost stop playing.

[ocean vigil]

arent her attacks pretty massive tho

she needs a nerf either way

[tidal sapphire]

the biggest issues with the size bug is she has the same knockback but smaller hitboxes. so a bunch of combo routes she should have dont work

this chat youre mostly gonna hear about how the size hurts WW, but she also is a midwieght character and being smaller means she falls out of other peoples combos easier too

[ocean vigil]

her knockback is insane too

[tidal sapphire]

its just bad for everybody that shes bugged rn

[ocean vigil]

at least ur bug is that an insanely strong character is slightly smaller

garnets got like 5 attacks that just dont work sometimes

and they have been fixed like 4x

[plush summit]

Yeah, that's true. I've figured out a new way to play with her since her original combos don't work. But I know the way I play annoys a lot of people because I can get into tight places between characters and elements on the map, not to mention it's much easier to get away and dodge projectiles.

[ocean vigil]

Not to mention no endlag

[glacial timber]

Wonder woman problem is her neutral, being like 25% smaller means she has to get closer to land a attack which can be very difficult in match ups like Finn who can easily overwhelm us with his massive jab range.

[ocean vigil]

That’s the definitive garnet experience

[plush summit]

True, it's very difficult because her jab is quite slow compared to most characters in the game. So as of now, you need to be creative in order to even hit them.

[flint sparrow]

lmfao you guys are hitting raw jabs?

nair is my best friend rn

[flint sparrow]

she’s getting fixed today

[ocean vigil]

also a garnet experience

[flint sparrow]

she’s fixed!!

[glacial timber]

Trying to hit raw jabs. I've legit starting to break my neutral button with how much I use it for nair.

[flint sparrow]

is it easier now that she’s fixed?

i haven’t had a chance to get on

[glacial timber]

I mean technically it should be easier now but I'm talking in general.

Im at work right now and got to parent after that so I won't be able to see the changes for like 8ish hours from now. 😩

[flint sparrow]

oh yea i’ll fs be on before you get to be i’ll report back

[soft aurora]

WW IS FIXED LETS GOOO

[final flower]

SCUM

[grizzled whale]

Scum

[glacial timber]

Drum

[plush summit]

Glum

[surreal pecan]

Glup

[pine gull]

Scum 🗿

[plush summit]

Is it just me, or is WW still broken? I've noticed her shield doesn't hit like it should. She also seems a bit slower than usual. Her swirl sword attack rarely catches them anymore, and her dodge doesn't seem to really dodge. Maybe it's just me. I'm just curious if anyone else is experiencing a difference in her.

[flint sparrow]

she’s felt fine

[slim latch]

She’s literally always been broken lmao

People just don’t notice it cause she isn’t as popular

Ohh you mean broken as in bad

Nah she’s still amazing

She’s always been amazing

[tidal sapphire]

She's felt great after they fixed her size tbh. You can actually combo now. The side special is risky cause it's so stubby, has start up, and has 3 hours of whiff, so if your spacing is off you're just feeding. So tbh haven't been using that move often

When someone's throwing projectiles, I like to play it like I'm any other character. Jump over it

[grizzled whale]

She’s never been below S tier

[final flower]

Scum

[flint sparrow]

me when i cry about ww

[slim latch]

But genuinely tho she’s always been at least high a

[surreal pecan]

i haven't match up against ww until now or maybe rare ngl

[ocean vigil]

Downplaying she’s always S

[surreal pecan]

Back to ww now

[surreal pecan]

man, it's been a month i haven't play with ww
feel so rusty

[final flower]

SCUM

[midnight echo]

Happy to be carried again :D

Gonna do my master grind I'm at diamond atm

[final flower]

SCUM

[flint sparrow]

we’re racing for masters ended my session in D2

[midnight echo]

Haha I just hit d5 last night so I don't think it's a race

Wasn't playing her while she was broken last night cause I didn't like how she felt

[flint sparrow]

i played her a bit when she was broken but focused on a different character cause i was tired of jab jab ntilt dropping lol

[grizzled whale]

How y’all never get nerfed bruh 😭

Character gon be S tier till I die

[surreal pecan]

Maining WW with keyboard is pretty difficult, the movement feels limited
Good WW mostly will do the nair with good control and movement (from console)

[grizzled whale]

Nair da

Shield

Win

Sometimes sair

[surreal pecan]

nair da? i know nair, but da?

[surreal pecan]

i like shield, but if you mean side special, that move is pretty bad on recovery
armor (down special) and shield bash (side special) must used properly or oppt will just keep the distance from them and do the punish

[grizzled whale]

Dash attack

Nair combos into dash attack a awful lot

[surreal pecan]

i mostly use that move too, but if i compare ww's dash attack with garnet's
garnet's dash attack has good range than ww

that's why ww right now feels like really2 basic close range char with armor moves only in situational (not for offensive imo)

Of course i need to see more if i have controller to main ww

[grizzled whale]

It can loop into another nair da at low percentage

Ww is basic

But no weaknesses at the same time

[surreal pecan]

yea, that's why i need to see more, but with laptop keyboard, i can't reach her full potential
if you know what i mean

[grizzled whale]

I’ve heard keyboard feels better then controller

I used to be keyboard in beta

Well I used all inputs

[surreal pecan]

hmmm, i heard controller is better
but this keyboard is from laptop itself
i don wanna to break it

the point is, i need to sharp again with ww, in mean time i wish they don't nerf ww for while, because imo ww is still fine
good ww mains mostly need good mechanics

[grizzled whale]

ww is not fine rn

Unless they nerfs everyone defense

And give more armor break moves and remove infinite lasso

[surreal pecan]

I respectfully disagree about lasso

Give more armor break moves
From my exp, good ww (GM is the highest ww rank that i had ever fought) won't too rely on armor moves, only nair with good move control

Or give ww same treatment like batman, replace/remove that two moves and give ww new moves that make her still fun to played at least

Dude, iirc you're IG main and you're pro player
i don't even give suggestion like nerf chars in feedback, like come on
well, at the end, we'll see what PFG do with balance patch in midseason

[flint sparrow]

tbh funny coming from you man

you was running peak IG

ww will always be a top tier unless she gets reworked tbf

[surreal pecan]

Exactly, this is why i start thinking that pro players in MVS mostly are kinda questionable
I mean they are really pro, for real
it's just sometimes their opinions are not really valid about chars, like Void lately about Beetlejuice
Mostly i heard their complains because their loss against chars

[flint sparrow]

i mean i respect carry and WW has been dominating twos since beta

i just think it’s weird essentially beating a dead horse

[surreal pecan]

this is why i won't do the complain and feedback a lot like "nerf bla bla bla", i wish they do (just my ego wish) but it's their decision at the end
i rather provide feedback a lot for my mains that which parts need to buffed

[grizzled whale]

I don’t lose to ww often

That would go to Steven

I just see ww dominate for so long

I just want to see something unique

She’s just too overall basic with nothing like useless on her

Like there’s a solid use for every move she has

I think stevens the only problamatic character rn

[glacial timber]

Nair to dash attack is good but Nair to jab is better.

[final flower]

Scum

They nerf everyone but the character that’s has been s tier since launch

Scum

[glacial timber]

Hardly, Wonder use to be the best character then they removed her ability to jab to IAD aerials.

[grizzled whale]

its what most ww like jungle do

nair da

[surreal pecan]

mostly i do nair then jab (depends on oppt damage health)

[steady mortar]

Hey MVS community, I was wondering if you think a Wonder Woman event is possible in the near future, similar to the Batman one? Her 83rd anniversary is right around the corner on October 21st, which seems pretty ironic considering Nubia is releasing soon.

[glacial timber]

Mmmmm, well wonder woman isn't as popular as batman and since batman event just happened it would feel a bit forced.

I do think a 'Sister's of battle' event would be pretty cool. Which could honor Wonder woman previous outfits and Nubia.

[tidal sapphire]

They'd definitely prioritize more resources on a Halloween event

[glacial timber]

I really hope so! All the Halloween outfits spoilers I've seen so far are fire

[surreal pecan]

interesting, but i doubt we'll get WW anniversary event
i heard that after midseason, we'll get halloween and galaxy event iirc

and that's probably one of main reasons why they released Nubia

[fierce flame]

Agendas tbd

[flint sparrow]

ww match up spreads what’s yalls opinions in ones

[grizzled whale]

No losing matchups :3

Realistically

[flint sparrow]

i mean i’m asking cause idrk

she has annoying matchups

but can deal with everything

[grizzled whale]

I was being serious

[flint sparrow]

yea lemme get the completely unbiased carry take 😂

[surreal pecan]

Finally, i reached Master v with ww today
time to take a break for days

[grizzled whale]

I hate ww

And Steven

I no like shields

[glacial timber]

I feel like wonder woman loses to a few characters like for example Finn low profile makes approaching and punishing with dodge cancel nair not consistent and his strangely small size make our BnB jab jab neutral sometimes miss if they DI inward. Meanwhile his jab is really hard to deal with since it out range most of our options. I think the match up is like 6/4 in Finn favor.

If another character prevents your character from using your tools then it can be a rough match up.

[grizzled whale]

Before I agree lemme ask shiro:3

[surreal pecan]

good idea tbh, Shirogane is one of ppls that main WW iirc

[surreal pecan]

Finn and Jason are few of difficult match ups from my exp

[grizzled whale]

Jason?

Just nair

[surreal pecan]

i tried, but good jason mains mostly will keep their distance and grab me with Jason's axe
that's why i play less aggressive and bait Jason instead

[grizzled whale]

You gotta play neutral well as well

Ww is op but not in a braindead way

Like how shaggy is

But if you know how to play ww well

It’s very hard to lose

[surreal pecan]

that's what i did mostly against Jason
compare between Jason and WW, Jason has good advantage from his jabs's range than ww imo
also same with Finn

[glacial timber]

Against Jason's we can do horrible things to them. Get them to 30ish % Jab jab, utilt, dair and half the time they can't even DI mix up their big body when you follow up with another nair. Then do it again, tech chase and kill them because at that point they are probably near 100%

[flint sparrow]

jason isn’t bad just don’t get jabbed and you’ll never die lmfao

[flint sparrow]

is jab jab uptilt dair usually true around 30?

[surreal pecan]

i get it
but it easier said than done because good Jason mains sometimes will improvise their jabs
with tech chasing and Jason's jab range, it becomes a bit difficult to predicted and also difficult to keep distance from it
i still can dodge it, but it won't be easy for sure

[flint sparrow]

idk anytime i lose to jason i jsut have to admit i got outplayed

[glacial timber]

Edit: upper 30's to 40ish it start working on most characters. Training mode is still inconsistent though so sometimes it forces a ground bounce sometimes they can DI away just enough or dair doesnt send directly down so make it not ground bounce but regardless you should follow up with a nair.

[grizzled whale]

won a tourney on my day 1 ww

now i can say that ww is busted without anybody disagreeing

[surreal pecan]

I feel that too
That's why with ww, sometimes don't sleep on Jason, if we haven't know yet about his playstyle

[flint sparrow]

🤐

[surreal pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5cujydl_fo
Shirogane's WW lost against Shaggy's Fatpac
WW busted? hmmmmmmmmmmm

just half kidding, overall, i understand that statement

[humble frigate]

Ok I was wrong
Playing wonder woman it's more fun than I tought

[grizzled whale]

i think shiro played kinda bad that set

just off watching it

[humble frigate]

I'm learning her so I can delete every steven from my bracket

[grizzled whale]

hes dropping a lot of things

[surreal pecan]

exactly
but, again, everyone have their own perspectives and different opinions
at the end, the decision is up to PFG, i'm just ok2 and see how this goes, hopefully not really downfall into Jake's place

i've been thinking about ww's rework idea, make her at least feels like Garnet, but i try to not remove her "armor" concept, because personally i'm still like her moveset for counter projectiles

i'll send my ideas into this channel later

[grizzled whale]

yeah who let flacoco into grands that tourney

[surreal pecan]

what's your opinion about ww overall?
honestly i don't want to ask, but i think it's pretty important for my ideas

[grizzled whale]

needs armor reworked

being able to get a free push with little room to punish or recover without being spiked is kinda

uhhhh

and nair

thats mostly what makes her too strong

i just find it weird people argue that ww is just played alot in tourney cuz shes "popular"

when most of the people placing swapped to ww because shes strong

shiro went from like joker to harley/arya to ww to batman back to ww

[ebon siren]

Aya yo so i just played a match against a play who has over 11000 wins as powerpuff girls..is that even possible?

Player*

[humble frigate]

Yes you can farm wins on rifts, pretty weird but that's it

[ebon siren]

Still over 11000?…i mean u have to play little every hour since the session started with like bo break

Literally*

[grizzled whale]

total wins

or the ppg badge?

[ebon siren]

The badge one that tells u ur characters win

[ebon siren]

.

[grizzled whale]

Got Wonder Woman to masters out of spite

Next level determination

[surreal pecan]

This is my idea of WW's change so far
#off-topic message
#off-topic message

so far, i'm still kinda defend of WW's nair
because i can't really judge of how op her nair is, especially from my match up perspective
i need to see more, if i get match up a lot against ww in ranked

[surreal pecan]

again, balancing won't solve anything imo
that's why i wish they can do something about outside of char, like perks and combat system

[grizzled whale]

its a pain for everyone

breaks shield

multi hit

carries the opponent with the nair

combos into jab/dash attack nair

[surreal pecan]

that's why i give few new ideas for her nair, if you've already see it

[grizzled whale]

makes sense

i agree with the d special change if it also removes teamates meter

make it last longer

but once it goes away

teamate has a chance to counter back

[surreal pecan]

The main purpose of my idea (personally) is
make WW feels like Garnet at least, fun to play, strong and not broken at least
but i'm still want play ww, for counter projectiles

[grizzled whale]

yeah

im gonna play shaggy/steven next

just to diss them by placing in a tournament

[surreal pecan]

And personally, i want they do something to Shaggy, Steven and IG
Especially Shaggy, Steven i need to see more from ww perspective

[grizzled whale]

why ig

hes the healthiest hes been in a while

[surreal pecan]

This #clips message

Of course, i'm still can win against IG lately, but still it'll be frustrating against really good IG if they do that move

[grizzled whale]

looking at the clip 1.ig had projectile momentum so it blocked your dtilt

and 2. if you dont have a huge move

just wait for up special whiff

its absolutely bonkers

[surreal pecan]

that's because i learned the other ways to punish IG
but i'm still need to see more, because all IGs i fought were in diamond or less, haven't MU against higher IG than mine

[grizzled whale]

i feel like dissing eu

but i must stay humble

gm eu = diamond na

[surreal pecan]

I can complain other chars if i want
but i'll keep quiet and need to learn more for while, even against Shaggy

[grizzled whale]

shaggys pure dumbassery

i never play him

but like i can beat other pros on him

if i grinded shaggy for like a week i could prob win sum

[surreal pecan]

With ww, it's possible if i figure it out
With garnet, i need try harder to solve it
the main issue when against Shaggy are his movements and his nair imo

[grizzled whale]

yeah

most ww mains are toxic

when i posted the top 8 graphic of me winning a tournament on ww

trying to prove my point that ww isnt bad

they said "your obsessing" instead of any points on why i won with ww

[surreal pecan]

i'm not blaming u for main ww, because her powerscale and her ability, it's understandable
i respect that truly, it's the PFG's fault tbh
that's why, i'm just accept it if they nerf ww, but i wish they not nerf her really hard
because personally i main ww purely not because her tierlist, i picked her since day 1 without pay attention to tier list because her role as tank, feels basic and at least little bit fun to play

[grizzled whale]

who should i pick up for next tournament

im thinking stripe

cuz people dont think hes extremely strong rn

[surreal pecan]

it's up to u
you're pro player, for tourney that'll give a prize for winner, i'm sure you'll pick anything what's best for you to reach the throne

that's why tournament is one of most important things about char balance
PFG have to pay attention to tournies if they want to do it more properly

[surreal pecan]

speaking of this
with this change, WW potentially will change from tank into bruiser

[midnight echo]

hit master finally

had to do it before midseason nerfs..

[surreal pecan]

congrats

[glacial timber]

If they do nerf WW I hope they give back jab to IAD aerials. I want to have more creative

[grizzled whale]

yipee masteres 1 on ww

im sigma

[flint sparrow]

thank god please drop the iron shistain lmfao

[humble willow]

They should also rework.this.character tbh

WW is not even a tank

[grizzled whale]

nah im hitting masters on as many chars as i can before mid season patch

so far i have ig ww ppg shaggy

[spring widget]

I've only hit masters on velma

Ww plat 5 rn

[surreal pecan]

This is my idea of WW's change so far
#off-topic message
#off-topic message

Overall, i prefer they add new moves and nerf several moves
And you're probably right, ww potentially will becomes bruiser if she has a lot of tools and pretty agile

I'm also prefer WW to stay as tank
WW's knockback still pretty good, and still needed for while

[humble willow]

Ww should be a assasin

She doesnt deserve be a tank

[surreal pecan]

🗿

like the Queen, eh

[humble willow]

For some reason for this game being a tank is just

"Having armored moves"

WW

Is not slow

Shes fast

Is not as strong as superman and jason

Doesnt have that much kill power

And his nair is stupid

[surreal pecan]

First bruiser, and now assassin
waste my time then

[humble willow]

I never seen a tank that can just spin around the whole map

Like ww

[humble willow]

She literally is an assasin

The only things that makes her a """tank""""

Is her armor

Without it

Shes literally just an assasin

And shes not slow at all

Shes the fastest tank in the game

[tidal sapphire]

WW is like the zarya of mvs. shes a light tank. i get shes not a heavy tank, but assassin is crazy

[surreal pecan]

i think i'm starting to understand
after we saw from Nubia's class, even it's a bit questionable of why Nubia is assassin instead of tank or bruiser, but i'm just ok and see how this goes

imo, ww is fast thnx to players mechanic overall
without tech chasing, ww is is easy punished if ww mains aren't careful

we'll see what they gonna do to ww with midseason patch
if they want to remove ww's armor moves, they have to replace them that worth same as armor moves
or if they want to ww's nair, i have 2 options personally, but hopefully they can replace it with new good nair as combo route

[humble willow]

nubia looks more tankish than ww tbh

[glacial timber]

One of the main reason I started using wonder woman was because I knew how broke her down special would be in disadvantage. I would be upset if they removed it.

[surreal pecan]

This shield feature could be a sign of WW's rework if shield works properly in general

[flint sparrow]

i got ww and reindog tbh cant be assed to play much starting to make the game stale for myself

[flint sparrow]

they wouldnt rework her

cause ww shield stays active while you move and block is stationary

[tall silo]

I don't know if it would be broken or not a good idea, but I always thought about replacing ww down special with wonder women throwing her shield which would seem sort of cool imo. Similar to lebron, wonder women's shield would be similar to lebron's ball. Possibly giving wonder women different attacks with just her sword until she picks up her shield or until her shield respawns

[magic hamlet]

WW is already the best character in the game alongside shaggy.

[surreal pecan]

i hope so too, but we know people who complain about her broken is still a lot until now
so i'll see how this goes, still i'll do something like giving ideas of her movesets replacement to make ww at least still strong and more fun to played for me personally, just in case

[midnight echo]

they've nerfed her repeated up b

[slim latch]

Yippee

[midnight echo]

and i think it's likely they will nerf some of her janky hitboxes

:[

[flint sparrow]

in ones or twos

[flint sparrow]

tbh sair is ridiculously inaccurate lmao

[flint sparrow]

she’s probably always going to be strong in twos

unless she gets a rework, which doesn’t need to happen

worst case scenario she gets brought more in line with the rest of the cast in terms of her jab1 whiff, maybe lose a bit of kill power

[midnight echo]

her jabs also hit behind her

that prob will also be nerfed :c

it's fine tho cause she's gonna be replaced with nubia who will launch broken...

[magic hamlet]

Nice

Shouldnt be a feature in the first place

same movement combo is forbidden

[magic hamlet]

both

WW is always first place in tournaments

[flint sparrow]

that’s just wrong lol she’s always in twos not ones

last ones tourney i saw had bug and lebron top 1 and 2

in twos, yes ww dominates

[magic hamlet]

Dude, bugs is like, the third best character. And, ww is extremely good in singles

[glacial timber]

She is good in singles but not top 5 (not really ordered)

Arya
Shaggy
Batman
Bugz
Joker

[humble frigate]

This is just a joke bruh how tf they haven't nerf ww at this point

[midnight echo]

they did???

she just got 4 nerfs

[humble frigate]

Important nerfs?

[midnight echo]

up b nerf was important and lag on a bunch of stuff

yeah

[flint sparrow]

her nerfs are pretty significant

a lot of neutral play in ones was abusing jab having no whiff branch to jump

now there’s ten frames before she can move

dair got a hitbox hit

up special has real whiff now

and dash attack which was already punishable when spaced has more whiff

[humble frigate]

Did they nerf nair jab? Or down b? They main problems?

[flint sparrow]

why would they

you want ww to have 0 combos? lmao

that’s unironically like asking why morty blaster into whatever button he wants didn’t get changed

it’s looking like dash jab and nair are gonna be her safest options in ones which are both considerably punishable

[humble frigate]

Yeah like Morty has an infinite nair that breaks armor lol, she still has an amazing combo and she's basically top 3 at 2's, crazy

[flint sparrow]

there’s always going to be a top character lol WW’s kit will ALWAYS be good

unless they rework her completely to make her kit fundamentally bad at twos she will shine

if her nair is a problem maybe try not getting hit by it

free morty tech: you can literally duck it with his crouch

[humble frigate]

So we just cope and have the most unhealthy 2's meta full of armor? Pretty nice I guess, pretty fun to see ww on every top 8 for 2's

Btw this has to do nothing with the morty matchup lol

[surreal pecan]

Imo, they need buff anti armor perks, make them more useful for counter armor chars
This is because in my exp, almost players never use anti armor perks to counter armor chars
I'm always prepare one custom set for anti armor, not really 100℅, but pretty helpful

In 2s, i'm always suggest my partner to prepare custom set for it
So it'll be more helpful

[flint sparrow]

would you prefer double mage? lmfao

[flint sparrow]

bros crying on every character tab ofc it has to do with morty getting nerfs

[humble frigate]

Actually yeah, I prefer the bugs/velma meta over this, it was 10 times better than ww steven we BA lol

[humble frigate]

Wdym lmao my last messsage was me joking about how Jake isn't in the game lol?

And I wanted them to nerf Morty lol

It's just unfair how they don't nerf anything about ww and characters like Jake or Beetlejuice gets so much behind that you don't see them and they get crushed from every top tier

But yeah... The wonder woman main defending her

[grizzled whale]

the anti armor perks are usually mid on the armor chars

except like on jack and ppg

[flint sparrow]

yea man beetlejuice def so far behind

i’m a morty main 😂😂

how bout play the game before complaining

it’ll make you sound smarter

[humble frigate]

Haven't even see you in the top 20 mortys lol

[flint sparrow]

i like playing the game, not jab blaster dirt upair the character

[humble frigate]

That's actually funny cuz I was ranking with wowo yesterday lol, so fun to just nair into anything

[humble frigate]

What's the point bruh 💀?

[flint sparrow]

about as fun as blaster into everything

she’s only a problem in twos

she has crazy hitboxes armor and a good armor break as well as projectile mitigation

let’s nerf every character to be terrible

then dpr winter will be happy with the game

instead of making everybody fun, let’s make every character preform poorly

genius

someone at pfg get this guy a job asap

i’ve never said ww isn’t strong but i will say she needs very few changes outside of hitboxes and the whiff changes she’s getting tomorrow

[surreal pecan]

We'll see how this "shield" feature works at 24 oct

[magic hamlet]

Bro, joker is not top 5, you guys are too delusional too admit how good ww is

[glacial timber]

No, I'm not info enough to really say. Did they nerf Joker to the ground?

[humble willow]

Nubia feels more tankish than ww

[glacial timber]

She is without a doubt slower
Edit: and have less kill power.

[sleek smelt]

Nubia more fun than ww tbh

I mean ik im saying that to ww mains idk

[sleek smelt]

Is it oct 24?

[surreal pecan]

Yes

[sleek smelt]

Idk how to feel abt it

Could be more fair

But i never rly took a liking to shields in like smash bros

[surreal pecan]

That's why we'll get testing ground first, we'll test it and see how it performs soon

[sleek smelt]

Should be interesting

[flint sparrow]

i agree nubia feels really fun rn

my only complaint is she can’t whiff punish w jab

[brave frigate]

I dont know if you have the same problem as me guys

my forward aerial always goes through people

and I dont know where i can report it

would send images here but i cant

and also, are there any cool guides i can watch for some combos and stuff?

[surreal pecan]

send images into #clips or #off-topic
then you copy its message link and send it into this channel

[flint sparrow]

nair -> dash attack
nair -> jab1-2 -> neutral attack
jab 1-2 -> uptilt -> up special

she has short true combos that you can string together depending on opponent

lasso combos into literally anything if you land it

[surreal pecan]

dash attack -> jump + air side special (soaring punch, if the oppt gets bounced)

[surreal pecan]

speaking of lasso or her other signature perks
i think they need to get buff, almost all players mostly will use 5% and Hermes

[flint sparrow]

nah her perks are all good

tipper is great to catch recoveries

hermes is OKAY into big bodies/if you have good spacing/ to help yourself recover

shield of athena is probably her worst one i never touch it

base lasso is just a lot more versatile

[surreal pecan]

if all her perks are good like you said, why players still use 5% and hermes
i barely seen other mains use the other two

[flint sparrow]

and the 5% damage buff is great

[flint sparrow]

base lasso true combos into anything and the 5% damage/defense buff is great

whip is still good

just less optimal

[surreal pecan]

i want to use this for counter projectile chars
but it's kinda useless, from it's visual and its effect, i'm still don't get it, even i had tried it in training

[flint sparrow]

it’s pointless when she just has side b anyways imo

[surreal pecan]

exactly, just need a bit change to make it a bit more optimal
just little buff🤏

[surreal pecan]

her side b is pretty punishable if we careless of spacing

[flint sparrow]

yea just adds a layer to the game

you either absorb the projectile and get dtilt charge or dodge and punish them trying to punish you

[flint sparrow]

all they would have to do it give the pull hitbox back to the whip perk and people would run it more

[surreal pecan]

Shield of Athena isn't really OP and also its pretty conditional
because we have to dodge directional first then it'll be actived then it'll cooldown, but the problem is the effect from it feels less helpful from my exp

my suggestion so far is, upgrade that shield effect --> Finn's shield lvl only one hit from any projectile

[flint sparrow]

but it would be broken

like beta

[brave frigate]

#clips message

[surreal pecan]

all of them, it didn't hit them?

[flint sparrow]

those side airs absolutely should not have hit. i can’t really tell or say what should or shouldn’t happen tho from one still image id need to see short clips

[brave frigate]

any of them

[brave frigate]

then why does my attack basically go through them???

[surreal pecan]

?

[flint sparrow]

the visual trail of the sair isn’t the hitbox

like i said idk about the uptilt

[brave frigate]

I mean, not a single one of those hit

[flint sparrow]

maybe the hitbox went inactive right before they touched your arm

[brave frigate]

I can see that, but the thing is, my sword goes through them and nothing happens

[flint sparrow]

like i said i could tell you the problem for sure with a real clip

[flint sparrow]

then you didn’t space it right

[brave frigate]

it happened a lot more today againsta buggs but i couldnt get the footage

[flint sparrow]

when you post clips i’ll let you know

[brave frigate]

ok, let me get it for at least that sair

[flint sparrow]

bet just tag me when you post it

[brave frigate]

okis

[glacial timber]

I wonder how they plan to balance WW armor break nair with shields

[surreal pecan]

armor break from her nair doesn't break shield

[bleak smelt]

They said something about hit pause though so it could put them in shield stun and allow you to apply more pressure for free

[surreal pecan]

iirc, armor break with purple visual doesn't break shield
but we can break their shield with dodge neutral (shield) --> jab

[bleak smelt]

I know I literally was saying it could apply shield pressure cause it is an armor breaker. I didn’t say armor breaker breaks shield lol

[surreal pecan]

okay, i misunderstood then
my bad

[bleak smelt]

It’s fine.

If you can get free pressure on shield from nair it could lead to a confirmed shield break potentially. Haven’t tested it though

[surreal pecan]

it's around 2 am at my place, i need to sleep and try it later
i had tested it couple times with Garnet, ww once but need to see more

[uncut fiber]

What approach options does WW have? Nair? Lasso?

[flint sparrow]

nair

sair if you can space it well but its punishable on whiff

dodge jab is okay but hers isn’t as fast as shaggy or smith

lasso is the most punishable move she has i wouldn’t spam it in neutral

[tidal sapphire]

I'm far from an amazing WW, but I've actually been using dair>nair a lot depending on the character. Like I wouldn't use it against BG but maybe shaggy or bugs after you bait his jab

And her down special is so short now, I usually pop it right before I dair, if I'm not using it to recover

[flint sparrow]

usually the better option is to armor into a dodge boost nair

[tidal sapphire]

Interesting.. I'll try that out when I get back to my PC. Out of town rn

I guess my thought is not many characters have a grounded armor break option when someone's above them. You could get caught in Jason's grab or finn, but Finns are usually holding side or neutral

[flint sparrow]

you’re absolutely right and dair combos into nair so if you can land it for sure go for it

[tidal sapphire]

I also wouldn't use it against superman because of the amount of armor moves he has. And it'll lose to supes up special. abuse nair on that guy

[flint sparrow]

yea lol abuse nair in general it’s a great button

[tidal sapphire]

Truue

[magic hamlet]

by not making break shields? im sure wonderwoman have other abllities in her kit that really the server the shield break, but not that one

[hollow pasture]

how many times is this character gonna get nerfed? is there a threshold?

[surreal pecan]

At least just her hitboxes, we'll see how it goes
and also WW gets another new skin, let's go, it's so cool

[pine gull]

Ah yes another nerf to our fav character love to see it 🗿

[candid depot]

Make sure to buy her new skin

[flint sparrow]

she barely got nerfed lol stop crying

[wet delta]

Has anyone noticed wonder woman’s up special losses to everything now

My up b lost to a Tom and Jerry jabbing on a platform above me

That was a shadow nerf along with the massive up b nerf she got in the last patch

[surreal pecan]

I will bro, her skin from mythic skin is really good

[tidal sapphire]

The only "nerfs" ww got was less stupid hitboxes. She feels pretty good so far tbh. Short hop nair goes crazy

[mortal mantle]

Mortys humble

[mental scroll]

That's not what a lover would say

[tender path]

Need help learning ww

[surreal pecan]

ww's perk set?

[tender path]

I use grapple of Hermes snowball speed force and pugilist

[surreal pecan]

i used 5% instead for damage
grapple of hermes isn't a bad sig perk, it cost you less damage but it gives you more mobility

[tender path]

I need to know her basic combo and best approach options

[surreal pecan]

the best approach from ww are :

1. Nair
2. dodge cancel + side jab
3. dash attack
4. lasso grab, but this move is pretty situational

[tender path]

How do I dodge cancel?

[surreal pecan]

her basic combo for one example is side jab + neutral attack

[surreal pecan]

click dodge to which direction that you want --> click side jab faster
that's the dodge cancel

[plush summit]

Shadow nerfs on ww is in full effect

[tender path]

She's wonder woman she always going to be good

[pine gull]

Still aint gon stop me from playing her 🗿

[weary acorn]

anyone know whats the deal with ww shield sig perk? how does it work? doesnt seem to make a barrier like it says.

[tender path]

What perks should I run on ww I use 5 percent snowball speed force and pugilist

[surreal pecan]

anyone who main ww down to custom match with shield ft5?
i'll main garnet

[queen jolt]

Hey everyone, is collateral damage perk good on WW?

Or am I just better off staying on speed or wings perk?

[wet delta]

What shadow nerfs?

[plush summit]

When they nerf a chr without telling you

[remote grotto]

is reverse up air into aerial side b a true kill confirm at 75

[ebon siren]

Yo idk if i can play ww anymore becuz none of my combos work an the true combos arnt working either i either need to play really passive or use all my stamina just to get one hit in..with all the ww nerfs on her its frustrating

[ebon siren]

“tRy PlAyInG mOrTy LmFaO ☝️🤓“ cringe mf shut up

“U sPeNd 5 mInS TyPiNg ThAt Up” cringe mf shut up

Keep watching

Ima do it again wait here an watch

“U js SaId ThE SaMe ThInG “🤓☝️

Yup keep wating

Okay give me ur tags so i can never add u

Yup

Give ur tags bozo

Ur gamer tags dammm u slow

Hurry up little pup

Come on drop it

All i know is u ant trying to run it so u ruing away

Im waiting for u lil pup

Okay lets go hop on

And if u lose its just hilarious

[hearty hinge]

side B is strong at high percentages anyway, I don’t think this is a true kill specifically but there are some crazy things you can pull similar to that

[ebon siren]

They nefrd my main still gonna win

We doing 1 or best of 3?

Okay got it

Lets go

Send it we doing 1 or best of 3?

Dude ur on my list now hurry up

Ohhhh i see ur blind my bad i didnt know

Same name u see here

Vomt?

Fooo ive been waiting u just blind

Dude hurry up and run it

Ya thats me

Idk how to set up the custom matchs u gotta do it an send invite

Tf? Im on rn

idk how i send pics on here but i have u on my friends

Alright but idk how to do custom matches

Alright just send the invite when u ready

Ima go grab some food rq

Im here

Got my food lets go

U would use her

Honestly i wouldn’t either if i was u

I love ww but i cant with my combos gone

Ya ik thats the issue its nerf now hurry up and run outta my lobby with ur 1 win

Good dont come back and get off this discord

Ya ya buzz off bozo

Ya ya go get outta here an run with ur 1 win

Damm dude is still here

Yaaaaa u r blind what did i say in the beginning???

Shes nerfd no true combos work anymore

And its still true

Plan play her an get to masters and ill suck ur toes for a year

Then*

u cant

Ya thought so

Says the person playing Arys talking about meta

Cappp an u know it

Bozo mf i swear goo get off here

Ya sure whatever im over it

Huh

Yup it sure ant

Yup 👍

What?

Oh is that so?

What ego? I asked for help and u dumped on me? An for what just to prove me right?

Morty is already too op they need to nerf him more

Anyway im over this already u got anything else to say except to prove me right by beating ww again?

No?..good

If anyone knows and good ww combos thats still good let me know cuz the old ones i know its no good any nore

More*

Okay 👍

Okay i apologize if i come off too rough but i when im like trying to be open and ask for help an some one makes fun of me when i am i get tilted

Ya i feel that was wrong of me for getting upset over a little joke..and u played really good as Arya i shouldn’t make fun of u for helping

Omg i hate fighting against her shes too quick for me..and i know i was being too much aggressive towards u for no reason

Yup i met one before i swear i cant hit her at all he kept dodging me

Well they made her hit boxs smaller so its hard to do my usual combos with ww an thats what ive been struggling with

The only way i can really play WW is just to play really passive an i hate playing that way an the new shields help a little bit but its still hard to hit combos after

Ya i feel like WW is best with 2v2 thats just me personally but with 1s im just having trouble trying to like fight withs cobos i actually have fun with i know i ant the best WW but i feel like its just worse for me and the forces me to play passives sometimes

Game*

Ohhh ya in 1s i can only best him playing passive an thats even before the nerf

Oh ya ive been thinking of trying him out myself

Alright ima get off her and again im sorry for being rude to u i hope u have a good year

Here*

[glacial timber]

I've gotten bored of WW and by extention multiversus. They took all her combos away so there was nothing to improve upon as a WW player.

[shell timber]

you guys make playing this game misserable

it does not matter how counterable this character is

you are alwyas goning to get away with trying less cuase she's always been overtuned

[flint sparrow]

lmao you’re losing to ww?

what’s so overturned about her rn

[shell timber]

the fact that she's not bad at anything. the amount of armor spinkled in her moves keeps her and her teamate alive so easily. she has consistent damage on all parts. she never struggles to damage people and get them knocked out. unless youre a character like marvin, its easer for ww to be super oppresive. she genuinly has no weakness besides armor break, and even then its not guarenteed to defeat her every time

she has been solid for most of this game's history

and people who play her will insist tooth and nail that she's a b teir at best

like, she's not as insane as relaunch giant or season 2 jack

but she is and always has been really really strong in 90% of fights

[flint sparrow]

shield

gg you win

ww armor moves aren’t that good and lose to shield breakers and armor breaks on read

[tidal sapphire]

WW also tends to fight in the air a lot. She loves nair and fair. So it makes keeping to the ground and shielding even more effective against her. Down special also doesn't last as long as it used to, so if she's popping armor she's either in disadvantage, or diving. If she's diving, go for grabs if your character has them.

[flint sparrow]

i’m saying lol mfs still playing this game and don’t even know how to play

i bet dude is in masters too

[vernal pond]

If there was nothing to improve on then that means you won every single match after right?

Without losing any stocks

[simple basin]

Wonder Woman

[sturdy citrus]

that's literally not what nothing to improve upon means

there's no skill expression anymore

no more ladder combos, lasso follow ups or whip traps

[vernal pond]

Which is not true

[sturdy citrus]

yeah reflecting projectiles is cool but I'd much rather have shout not reset after I die over that

[sturdy citrus]

it is but sure

up special's new angle is not viable for kill confirms anymore

[vernal pond]

There’s specific strings are true now on plats

You just need one lab them

[vernal pond]

Also have you tried weak sair strings

Sourspot is the better term

[sturdy citrus]

I thought they got rid of those

[vernal pond]

It’s a new thing is patch

Mis spaced sair has a new sour spot hitbox

[sturdy citrus]

oh?

I'll take a look later

[flint sparrow]

i’m not really liking how she feels

every patch they change nair now

people still constantly low profile uptilt and up b out of shield

sair is lowkey broken idk why they buffed the knockback

[prime badger]

Are there any Variants for the character with unique voicelines?