#Velma

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dense crow
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you can combo with the projectiles

wraith halo
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Black adam bubble, ww grounded side b, martian down attacks(actually this doesnt one shot jerry),steven everything,

dense crow
wraith halo
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That wasnt true…

latent gyro
dense crow
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well she has a combo atleast

wraith halo
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U can see superman start the animation of a punch before the d attack

wraith halo
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Dair megaphone jab dtilt grounded up attack up air

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Does like 60 at 0

latent gyro
wraith halo
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Its true

latent gyro
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yo

wraith halo
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Maybe di dependent

muted holly
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heavily di dependent

latent gyro
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DI dependent is fine

muted holly
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there is like 2 directions where that works

latent gyro
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Most People don’t know what DI is in this game

wraith halo
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I think the main di issue is the start of dair into megahorn

muted holly
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yea

wraith halo
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So u could just start with megahorn

muted holly
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i think if you di sideways after megahorn u can still get out of it

wraith halo
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Out of megahorn into jab? No

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As long as its a landing megahorn

dense crow
vocal axle
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Finally got the reading emote for Velma

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I'm so glad

stone arrow
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For the love of god all mighty FIX VELMAS HITBOXES ON HER KEY MOVES PLEASE!

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She's have any good freaking followups like please!!

hybrid nymph
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Why/when to use down tilt?

muted holly
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if you mean the calculator then you rarely use it

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only if you're sure it will hit for a kill confirm

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is it just me or is the megaphone sometimes not hitting even if the opponent is fully in the visual beam?

late carbon
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Thats like half the moves in the game lol

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Finn neutral attack is a hope and prayer that it actually hits something

scenic bluff
marble carbon
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should i buy velma? i have enough for her and i know she's kinda bad but she was really fun in the beta

muted holly
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if you want to challenge yourself go ahead

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shes still fun to play

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just not rewarding

coarse shore
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^ Good take

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@marble carbon Gizmo and Velma were a lot alike in the beta, in that they were zoners who could box and mostly killed off the top or bottom

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Big difference is that Gizmo couldn't kill and Velma could

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But he was bar none the most mobile character in the game. Still is lol

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Velma now is like playing a hollow shell of what she used to be. An incomplete character

marble carbon
coarse shore
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Her kill power off the top is really strong. Her megaphone, after the buff, is a pretty decent move. Her jab has great range.

But beyond that... 💀

The great irony is that being a day 1 Velma meant watching your main get discovered as a top tier, then get progressively worse every single patch. In all attributes. Heck, she's the only character they reduced the base movement speed of, and the nerfs didn't stop until she was a mid tier - even when other problem characters remained strong.

And the irony is that being a Velma now is watching a bottom tier character get stronger now, patch after patch. It's a weird feeling

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They can't figure her out, like Iron Giant

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Except unlike IG, she's easy to keep in check. She just has a naturally infuriating playstyle to play against, so PFG doesn't want her to be that good lol

coarse shore
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Try Reindog too

marble carbon
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Marvin was like my #1 most wanted character and he didn't feel good

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has that like been changed any?

coarse shore
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I dunno, haven't played him in the beta

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He felt weird lol

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What's disappointing about him to you?

marble carbon
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I don't really enjoy the assassin playstyle

coarse shore
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Ahh I see, yeah it is a bit strange that he’s labeled as an assassin

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He got a VERY good dash attack that’s fast and has huge range, and his air side b is a good engage, but other than that he needs to win neutral through his ranged options

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Dtilt is a fast burst option at close that’s more generous than expected, and can also break projectiles

marble carbon
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cuz bug is like setting up rockets (through shooting it in the air) safes and holes then you get in

coarse shore
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But yeah. He’s not Harley

marble carbon
coarse shore
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I think the difference is both Bugs and Harley have great moves they can just throw out in neutral and Marvin doesn’t

Aside from Dtilt but only when grounded

marble carbon
coarse shore
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Nobody in the game is really like Marvin, but if I had to pick one… Reindog

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Or Morty

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Velma too if you consider how both characters try to set up into their ladders

coarse shore
marble carbon
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i want a character that isn't similar to what i have already

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and since the start of the beta i've been maining 2 characters, Gizmo and Morty

coarse shore
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Well this game does have a very unique cast, other than almost everyone having a ladder, everyone kinda plays differently enough

coarse shore
marble carbon
coarse shore
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Easily the most flexible character in the game, aggressive and defensive when he wants to be, lots of ways to get in and set up for kills

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That’s fair

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Then just play who feels good to you

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Try everyone out

wind marten
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I want the velma tiki outfit so bad but no velma orientated stuff on the store 😭

stone arrow
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You mean her summer fit?

wind marten
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yea i forgot the exact name

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I want it on sale 😔 but i might just buy it og price

fervent sundial
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I was really hoping the buffs would do good for Velma, but nah she still feels terrible to play 😭

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I hope they really give her some good stuff with the changes they said they had planned soon

white locust
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Can this character function in 1v1s

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or is she just a 2v2s cheese

muted holly
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she functions in neither currently

stone arrow
muted holly
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her attack speed needs to be around the same as the rest of the cast

stone arrow
muted holly
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velma would also be alot better already if all her bugs were fixed

latent gyro
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so basically not really

coarse shore
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In Void’s opinion, due to his recent Velma video

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She does not function in 1s but is pretty good 2s character with certain teams

white locust
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@coarse shoreThe World Ends with Void's opinion

coarse shore
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Nice~

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I really hope the series doesn’t end with Neo lol

solar plank
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Made the mistake of trying to play Velma again. Reached my breaking point when I had her neutral A whiff on a point blank, vulnerable Marvin.

I'd love to know what they were thinking releasing Velma like this. Everything she does feels bad, with either too many start-up or too many recovery frames, she has too many cooldowns that are completely neglible, the broken side special, too many completely awkward moves with litle pay off.

white locust
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She was disgustingly broken in the beta so she got hella nerfs

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Even after the nerfs, she had unfun interactions with perks, so she got MORE nerfs and the perks got gutted

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Now the old perks are gone and this new game speed nerfs her even more, and they took her broken cross map horn attack

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Im not sure this character is playable lol

patent plinth
muted holly
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i have just now for the first time encountered a fellow velma player in the queue

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almost an extinct species

spice anvil
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Is she good after the update?

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Also what are the best perks for Velma?

fervent sundial
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She's still just not good

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They said she'll be getting more changes in the coming weeks, so fingers crossed

hallow fractal
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I'm actually having a lot of fun with her rn

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She still need help

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But these changes are good

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And im kinda liking new megaphone now

solar plank
# spice anvil Is she good after the update?

Marginally better because th ebuffs were pure buffs, still at the bottom of the game currently. There's a reason they said those were only the start of changes, she needs much more.

obsidian owl
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ahe has some crazy tools like down tilt being able to confirm.into uptilt

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and her down b being able to ladder peolle to the top blast zone

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which is difficult cuz u have to get lock and hit them up before the lock runs out

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also he spikes had some crazy kb

stone arrow
stone arrow
coarse shore
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And Velma has probably the worst version of it, her dair is also her hurtbox and it’s slow

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Can kill though for sure, our girl does not lack in kill power, it’s just being able to land the hits

latent gyro
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Did a 1v1 as Velma versus Jake and it was actually fun

cursive tendon
obsidian owl
white locust
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I thought her attacks 100% spawned evidence

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This character is wild lo

stone arrow
white locust
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Yeah this character is booty

wind arch
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Van Van Van, clues! buff them

white locust
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Her charged megaphone spawns no evidence so Iv gone entire matches without summoning the mystery machine

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games I won mind you

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and her moves that do dont combo into each other, not to mention its a dice roll

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and she still has the huge armor nerf on evidence pick up from beta

muted holly
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the signature perk isnt the problem tbh

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its just that the evidence spawning is entirely luck based

white locust
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Pretty sure that was another nerf

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because you used to stack tons of armor when you had advantage on your teamate

stone arrow
muted holly
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they are doing a large balance patch soon so i have high hopes

stone arrow
white locust
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Adapt newb!!

stone arrow
# white locust You dont like getting 0 to 60ed by Harley Quinn? or a Joker hitting you with 3 u...

Lol i don't have a problem with that because i know how they function, they're my mains as well, velma is too, im saying that there needs to be a HEAVY meta shift, OR HOW ABOUT GET RID OF THIS STUPID META BS AND MAKE THE CHARACTERS BALANCED TO WHERE IT SHOULDN'T MATTER THE CHARACTER YOU PLAY, ONLY YOUR SKILL WILL DETERMINE, VELMA GETS CHARACTER DIFFED BY DEFAULT NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE WITH HER

vocal axle
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Yeah girl you tell 'em 🗣️💯

wind arch
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SHE IS SH*T

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F*CKING SLOW

stone arrow
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Lol

peak halo
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the characters are never gonna be balanced

desert roost
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Just fix blurbs.

  1. Projectile speed
  2. Travel through platforms.

That's it...that is all.

And megaphone. Because why can't I angle it?

stone arrow
desert roost
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Playing velma in 1's is torture do not do it to yourself. Lol.

coarse shore
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It's really bad lol

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Even when you win it isn't that fun

fervent sundial
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I hit side special and I'm so negative on hit that I can basically get punished for using it like why is it like that lol

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Everything in Bugs kit feels great to use while Velma feels like half her stuff doesn't even work properly

coarse shore
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She's half a character lol

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Grounded side special is the worst move in the game

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I will fight anyone who says otherwise

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It's just not a move

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It's a throw lol

turbid isle
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Is she atleast decent now?

buoyant meteor
neon ore
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His grounded down b is the worst thing known to man

peak halo
desert roost
muted holly
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atleast on joker you get a reward for hitting it

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on velma you get more damage in return for hitting the move

buoyant meteor
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sometimes i kinda just slide off the stage doing no damage with it lmao

vocal axle
coarse shore
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Yeeee, we don’t got a lot of variety in our gameplay

coarse shore
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And he just might not get punished for it

neon ore
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I've noticed a lot of people like to run away when I accidentally use it yeah

coarse shore
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Because what’s behind the cape

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Decisions decisions~

hallow fractal
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I dont think velma is that bad guys. By all mean she needs some help but she is ok in 2s. 1s is hell tho lol

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If they changed her projectiles to go through platforms that alone would be huge for her.

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I have come to really like new megaphone

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I think her normal string could be a bit faster.

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Air side special is useless imo tho

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And down special is kinda useless, or at least not as useless now. So I think that needs a change.

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In 2s my win rate with her has been about 50% so not too bad

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I thinking people aren't respecting new megaphone. It's some easy, and for the most part safe, dmg

muted holly
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against some stupid players yes

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against better players its predictable and youll be punished for it most of the time

desert roost
muted holly
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or you dont kill with the megaphone and use the only killing tool called lightbulb

desert roost
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LOl^

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Or that

ember elm
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What perks do you guys use?

desert roost
muted holly
muted holly
wind marten
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Have u guys played the new rift theres a velma skin but not avaliable in shop

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Also like in the rift to fight garnet it's required to wear sports attire and velma's there but no skin to equip/buy

misty dew
misty dew
snow field
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Velma is so good now

wind marten
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shes better but still has a lot of struggles

thin oyster
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Velma's better now, but there are still those impossible matchups that she cannot really do anything about because her move priority and lag are still huge glaring weaknesses in her kit.

ember elm
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Is there a Velma discord server?

peak halo
wind marten
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its like a beach outfit but not the one ur thinking of

peak halo
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the one with a hat?

wind marten
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no ill dm image

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Its the same for some other charcs too like jake has a little shark hat in one rift

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So theyll probably b releasing them in a bit

stone arrow
peak halo
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need more velma love

stone arrow
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Asap

hallow fractal
ember elm
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I play her in 1s 💀 going against a WW is next to impossible

wind marten
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o7

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I cant play her in 1s i rage too easily

peak halo
ember elm
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Playing her in ones is possible but you gotta play very cautiously

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For example

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I 3 stocked a Superman in 1s as Velma

stone arrow
stone arrow
ember elm
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Like it just feels impossible to combat her

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As Velma

solar plank
stone arrow
ember elm
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Like I just can’t combat the super armor and how she does 40 damage in 3 hits

desert roost
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So now megaphone has a soft spot?!

stone arrow
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HERE'S WHAT ALL I THINK NEEDS TO BE BUFFED FOR VELMA

  1. Buff her "motivational speaker" move to the way it was or at least half, the rework on it was lame af and i don't feel very motivated using it

  2. Buff her key moves like her uptilt "bright idea" move so it's more consistent in her combo game

  3. Buff the speed just a tad or more on her "Quip Master" move, it's by far the slowest side combo move in the game

  4. Buff her "fast thinker" air side moves range so at the very LEAST i can reach them from a decent range, not to op but still

  5. And finally her light em up move neutral air attack hits literally only 20% of the time, buff the range

stone arrow
scenic bluff
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I'll DM a link

stone arrow
muted holly
scenic bluff
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yeah, it's not super active but might as well get people in there

muted holly
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is it just me or does the megaphone sometimes register as a jab?

main magnet
desert roost
muted holly
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i think it isnt intentional because it makes the same sound, has the same damage and knockback as jab1

cursive tendon
wind arch
manic fern
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I'm pretty sure the jab spot is intentional, isn't it? I thought that's what they meant in the patch notes by "Hitbox now better covers Velma's arm and head." Whatever the case, it's a pretty nice change.

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Btw, can someone explain the limit on clue spawns? I'm not imagining it, they literally stop spawning midway through the battle. It seems to happen as soon as I die the first time. I'm able to get vans as long as I stay alive, but when I go down, floating clues just stop showing up. Clues from up-air and side-air also seem to stop showing up after a bit. What's going on there?

desert roost
manic fern
desert roost
manic fern
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Give me a sec to try that combo, once it finishes updating...
No one knows anything about the limited clues, though? Van is kind of important to Velma's moveset right now.

manic fern
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I did see once that it hit only the jab and not the laser (I was just spamming to try and get it to happen). Looks like it happens if they're touching your head, but aren't far enough in front of you to touch the laser.

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Like if you're overlapping them when you press the button. Looks like a situation in which the laser never would have hit, though.

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Looked at the clues in 1v1 and 2v2, it's doing the same thing in both modes. Clues stop showing up after you die once, even if you never called the van.

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I CAN'T be the only person who's talking about this.

solar plank
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No clue, haven't noticed, possibly just another bug (soft spot on the megaphone? seriously??)

manic fern
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How isn't this a bigger deal...? It's Velma insta-kill. It's a little more important than her megaphone. ._.

desert roost
manic fern
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And if they get trapped while they're over something like 60%, on a map that's suspended in the air, they usually die

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Even more chaotic in 2v2, since it seems to also rely on the %. Hitting the van while a teammate is in it sometimes frees them, sometimes it just sends them flying off the map with the van.

desert roost
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It also doesn't jump terrain so depending on the stage it won't even get them.

manic fern
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And like they said, they can't always just "break them out"

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It's a pretty fast cast, too. I'm pretty sure the only reason people are disregarding it like this is because Velma tends to only cast it once per game. Because clues stop spawning.

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If Velma cast at least one van every life, that van would be much more of a problem. You only need one good knockback to give you time to cast the van safely.

desert roost
manic fern
desert roost
manic fern
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You can hold the van, you don't have to cast it when they're ready to knock it away. Even Bugs has cooldowns, you can wait for a good time for him.

desert roost
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2's is coordination and using the Van has just never been ideal because of how much time it takes to be able to do it. You'd get punished/rushed or it gets killed/ destroyed

manic fern
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Again, it's based off percentage and distance (and match-up). It's not just always going to get killed. You hit Bugs with an up-air, you probably have time to cast it before he can get back. Pretty sure down-air can't take it down, and Velma gets a free hit if he tries.

desert roost
manic fern
desert roost
manic fern
manic fern
desert roost
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I said it has never been ideal I didn't say I don't use it.

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You think Van's design is an Ideal ultimate, being it can't hop terrain or onto platforms? No, of course not. That would be silly for it to just remain on the ground in a platform fighter.

manic fern
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If clues don't spawn, you can't cast it in the first place.

desert roost
manic fern
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Every Velma player should be up in arms about that. -_-

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Clues spawn at the start of the game, but I've seen them regularly stop spawning after my first death.

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It's especially noticeable in 1v1, since I won't see any floating clues after the enemy takes my first stock. I don't know for sure if it's linked to death or something else, though.

desert roost
manic fern
desert roost
spice anvil
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Beat perks for Velma?

peak granite
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does velma have combos

hallow fractal
muted holly
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its just heavily rng based

manic fern
# muted holly its just heavily rng based

It happens for me every match. I'm not 100% sure if it affects the attacks, but the floating ones really do stop showing up. It's not rng, I don't think I've been able to call a van on third stock since relaunch.

muted holly
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hm weird

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velma has alot of bugs tho so maybe something is up there

manic fern
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Hard to find people to check their Velma games for this bug, so I don't know how widespread it is. We could jump into a Custom game and see if it happens there if you want.

muted holly
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maybe later i have an exam to study for

manic fern
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Played an FFA with a couple of other Velma players, confirmed that the clue limit is real. 3 Velmas all in the same game, all clues completely dried up by the end of the match. Velma dies once and the clues for that Velma stop spawning.

muted holly
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thats weird, i just played a few 2s matches while paying attention to clue spawns and i was still getting them on my second stock

scenic bluff
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I use knowledge is power and never ran into that bug. Wonder if it's the other one only

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Also console or PC? I'm pc/steam

muted holly
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i am on pc on steam to be specific and use knowledge is power

manic fern
manic fern
muted holly
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both

manic fern
# muted holly both

What perks do you have on, other than main perk? And are you using a skin?

muted holly
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flammable, collateral damage and armor killer

manic fern
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What about skins or emotes?

muted holly
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base skin, 1,3,4 base emote 2 reading emote

manic fern
scenic bluff
manic fern
scenic bluff
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I wonder if calling the van resets it maybe but if you don't call the van they stop after the first death or something

manic fern
scenic bluff
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nice, yeah just trying to think of different conditions to make it appear. You can probably file a bug here https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/ (ideally if you can record a whole fight where it triggers and put it on youtube that would be good for devs to start from.)

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I haven't noticed it yet but I'll pay more attentiion too, I wouldn't be surprised if I just never noticed

manic fern
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Well, checking specifically after van -> death for a match, no change, clues still disappeared. Good idea, I'll file a bug report.

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Van is one of my favorite moves in the game since beta (ticked off that they removed the voice lines from it), so I probably pay more attention to it than usual.

desert roost
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@round harness Gg's! Nice seeing other Velma players still ❤️

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Superman killed me at 50% center stage. Where are the cameras this has to be a joke 🤣

bold trellis
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why they gut this character when she was already nerfed in the beta and no one was complaining?

glass flicker
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What’s her best kill option?

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Also any tips I just started playing her

ember elm
glass flicker
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I also have no floating evidence

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Got them my first stock and didn’t see any the rest of the match

thin oyster
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Also, I dunno why this makes me mad, but in the trailer Velma knocks Joker out with down-tilt while in-game it does nothing like that unless they're at the ledge, like what

desert roost
# glass flicker What’s her best kill option?

I’ve found, up air, air-side special(book), calculated to down air is a free setup at ledge, calculated into up air or shutter bug at higher percents. Jab at ledge, raw shutter bug at around 130 leads into up air if it doesn’t kill, megaphone for edge guarding also kills.

manic fern
manic fern
# glass flicker What’s her best kill option?

Up-special is her best kill option most of the time. Up-air is easier to land if the enemy is above you. Side-special (like Tweety mentioned) works as a mix-up and has about the same knockback as her up-air. Her down-air is a legitimately good spike off-stage, just make sure to get the distance down. Her megaphone can also harass off-stage (like Tweety mentioned). The neutral speech bubbles can kill at high percents if the enemy is in the air, or off-stage (like GungleJolf mentioned).

And of course, van. Save van until they're above 50-60 then let 'er rip.

coarse shore
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Camera's a big reward that starts killing from the ground at 100 depending on their weight, but it's slow so it requires a read

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Or for the opponent to just keep forgetting about it lol

desert roost
wind arch
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New Velma skin?

scenic bluff
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ye she's in the new pve rift too

desert roost
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I just got the jab hit box 3 times in a 1v1 match(doing quest for XP for BPass) quite discouraging. And it was in places where the laser would have hit. @manic fern

manic fern
# desert roost I just got the jab hit box 3 times in a 1v1 match(doing quest for XP for BPass) ...

Oh, yeah, I forgot to get back to you on that. I have had that happen to me a bunch of times since you mentioned it lol, you were right (I think you cursed my game). It didn't always let them react since it knocked them far enough way, but they didn't get hit by the laser.

Seems like a double-edged sword. Sometimes it adds an extra hit to a point-blank laser, but other times they just get tapped and nothing else happens. Yet another thing on Velma that needs to be fixed. 💀

desert roost
stone arrow
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😦

solar plank
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Shout outs to y'all that investigated the clue bug. As I said once and will say a 100 times, abhorrent state she's in.

ember elm
obsidian owl
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charecters fun

tidal onyx
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Winning with Velma in 1s feels so rewarding

stone arrow
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Hell yea

glass flicker
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What is typically your guys game plan and what perks do you use? Also what is the best way to be using the lock on bubbles? Should I just zone or something else?

glass flicker
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Also is side special worth using?

tidal onyx
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In 2s I’d say yea

misty dew
# glass flicker Also is side special worth using?

the grounded version is unusable lol. does literally nothing and leaves you punishable even on hit. the aerial version though is pretty good for general mobility,landing mixups, and of course recovering. also sometimes has use on offense considering it kills at a kinda decent percent compared to her other moves (😔), especially off like hard jump reads or near the side blast zones or whatever. I also use it to bait people into dodging or doing other aggressive options which usually leaves them open to get punished

misty dew
glass flicker
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Also how useful are down tilt and up special I don’t find myself using them that often especially up special

coarse shore
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DTilt can be used as a situational extender, up special combos from dair and can be a kill option you throw out

peak halo
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down tilt is one of her best moves

wind marten
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Is it intentional when dodging one of her sass it just hovers indefinitely around the person till it hits like the floor 💀

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Hope they ffix that if not?

muted holly
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i hope it will be fixed in their huge balance patch

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and all of the other bugs too while they are at it

stone arrow
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Met the number one velma :))

scenic bluff
glass flicker
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Is there a Velma discord?

stone arrow
peak halo
stone arrow
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I'll dm you

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Sent

wind arch
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finally i have the skin from the BP for her !!

tidal onyx
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I feel like I asked this the other day but what are some kill confirms with Velma

muted holly
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Dtilt -> uptilt, jab jab -> uptilt (if jab2 hits stacked), dair -> uair, and uair/uptilt out of projectiles but that's kinda hard to land

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Usually you're better off going for a raw uair instead tho

hallow fractal
stone arrow
hallow fractal
stone arrow
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Insanity

hallow fractal
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8k is so much lol

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I think I might have 150 lol

stone arrow
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Definitely during the beta, they said they can still play her but said velma was so much better during beta, it's a struggle for no reason, and yea me and you both lol

hallow fractal
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Yeah I feel that

glass flicker
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Could someone dm me Velma discord please?

stone arrow
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Sent @glass flicker

tidal onyx
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Tips to beat WW with velma lol

carmine dune
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pray that their wifi goes out

tidal onyx
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Lol managed to beat them

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I think it was more of them being bad if anything tho

carmine dune
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I would quit multiversus if I got beat by a Velma while playing Wonder Woman

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the pure shame you’d have to deal with

tidal onyx
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Fr they had a 2-1 lead too lol

carmine dune
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nah I’d be done

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id start a new life after that

stone arrow
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The velma summer skin is in the shop, can't get it sadly

scenic bluff
# tidal onyx Fr they had a 2-1 lead too lol

velma isn't a bad pick against WW imo, I managed to come back 0-3 to 5-3 earlier today. Once she has he whip on cooldown there's not much she can do to control spacing and you have unlimited megaphones. Camera is good for whiff punish even if she's armored

stone arrow
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Velma please get buffed to high hell next patch

latent gyro
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NOT VELMA SHE TOO GOOD NNeED NERF NOW!!!!???!?

late carbon
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mods give velma an additional 2 minute cooldown on her down special

muted holly
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might aswell remove the move entirely while you're at it

coarse shore
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Oh hey, just fought a gold named tooniverse Velma with a twitch tag in their name lol

round harness
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I have an interesting interaction with Velma's down special. If you Air dodge up and use down special, you'll go super high. Not really useful, but it's a thing.

misty dew
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just saw their most recent tweet, only one more week of playing the worst character ever 🫡

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(hopefully)

stone arrow
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Hopefully ffs

solar plank
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Hopefully

hallow fractal
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She will rise

vocal axle
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Does anyone experience the bug where you are literally just stuck to the enemy and can't do anything? It literally only happens when I play her

neon ore
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Been there since release

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Full month later, nothing even said about it

vocal axle
robust siren
vocal axle
hallow fractal
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That bug has actually secured me every game it's happened to me in. I'm always one kill up when it happens lol

vocal axle
ember heart
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New Velma outfit is 🔥

calm herald
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I wanna get it

turbid isle
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Winning with Velma feels like doing a drug

peak halo
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what does that mean

latent gyro
coarse shore
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I really want the Velma outfit too but I can’t justify getting it right now lol

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Can’t afford

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Also the bundle is so overpriced

misty dew
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I don't think I can justify buying any of her cosmetics lmao

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which is a shame because I really like that witch outfit

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but I don't like it 20 dollars as much💀

peak halo
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I spent like 30$ on velma lol

coarse shore
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Same lol

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I 100% bought the witch outfit in beta

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Overpriced? Absolutely

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But I just couldn’t resist

hallow fractal
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I've bought too much for her. Rn I'm saving for that new black adam skin

tidal onyx
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I lost to a shaggy in the most frustrating way possible lol

dry fulcrum
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bought the Witch skin today, gotta represent in the most stylish manner possible

desert roost
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Another reason I am reluctant to use Van. It drove off the map past an armored WW and Superman. CLEAN ignored them. lol and I'm like. WELP. I can't say I'm shocked.😆 @manic fern

Full Context: I used it on the other side of the map
WW Armored them both, they both jumped(not onto a platform just over it) and it rolled off the map like. Daphne drove of the map and was like byeeee

manic fern
granite flame
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I think Velma is better than LeBron bc Velma has options 24/7 even if they aren't the best. LeBron is useless with no ball

robust siren
granite flame
latent gyro
granite flame
latent gyro
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Well the idea is that the average person can combo lol

dry fulcrum
granite flame
latent gyro
granite flame
granite flame
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Dead chat

coarse shore
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We won't be dead next week hopefully~

dry fulcrum
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Been repping her on PVP all week, mixed results but generally positive and have been scumming wins off top tiers a lot

coarse shore
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I play her sometimes because I just like Velma, and I feel the ghost of what her kit used to be, but I'm not having fun with her

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All of that fun went to Steven these days

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Velma has like... half of a kit 💀

granite flame
granite flame
coarse shore
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Yeah, he needs to recharge his ball faster or have it count as a heavy projectile

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With how important it is

carmine dune
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all he needs is ball to be a heavy projectile and for one ball to be able to hit twice

granite flame
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He also needs to attack way faster bc no way he attacks SLOWER THAN IRON GIANT for some of his moves with no ball

dry fulcrum
granite flame
granite flame
coarse shore
granite flame
coarse shore
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He's a lobotomite until he gets his ball back

granite flame
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Yeah

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I think LeBron without a ball is worse than velma

coarse shore
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Like Popo without Nana

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Which I think is the whole point

neon ore
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So does it really matter? I think not

stone arrow
neon ore
scenic bluff
calm herald
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You know keepaway Velma is really good in 1v1s, not the best but a pretty good strategy for fighting in 1v1s. Flashlight pressure is also hella good honestly its my favorite move to use for clue farming and damage build up

neon ore
calm herald
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I just wish the down special could be used more often as a projectile considering the cooldown

neon ore
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Make the cooldown last half the match timer 🗣️
That 5% damage bonus and 3 damage as a projectile will really buff Velma, make her uncontestable 🗣️

coarse shore
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There's the console players too~

neon ore
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The beta honestly did better in terms of player count
Started off around 50% higher and dwindled much slower
Only dropped to like 70k after the first month

scenic bluff
# neon ore People said the same thing about the beta but that quickly dropped below 1k play...

it took 8 months to go down to 1k in the beta, and by that point they stopped putting out updates and just left the season running long too. There were good reason why people left here (not enough content, wack balance etc.) but this time they have a more concrete update plan and likely a more steady stream of new characters. It could still bomb but it has good chances to keep a healthy player base. But they need ranked ASAP

neon ore
scenic bluff
scenic bluff
# neon ore The balancing is considerably worse now

I mean more in terms of how they approach it. Some characters are broken right now but they're patching fairly quickly compared to before, and at least they're signaling where they want to go (i.e. incoming nerfs for joker/WW, buffs for Velma). The problem with the beta is they would take too much time to fix certain things and then when they actually do something they would totally gut the character, so it just annoyed a lot of players.

granite flame
granite flame
neon ore
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The only character they quickly dealt with was Iron Giant and I'm sure that's just because his presence was enough to win the match

scenic bluff
# granite flame Not even a hot take. Ice cold

heh, I wouldn't say it's worse. Evo 2023 top 8 had 5 velmas, and she was still good enough to be in ~ half the top 8s up until october/november, then they just gutted her lol. Right now there's too many jokers and WW but like the flyquest ladder had 6 different characters in top 8 (WW and harley being the dups). Kinda hard to compare though since there hasn't been to many tourneys in 2s though

scenic bluff
granite flame
scenic bluff
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yeah I'm hoping they're taking their time with WW and Joker so at least they'll still be fun/viable for those who play them

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they did a good job with Gizmo though

granite flame
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Gizmo feels the same after the nerf but I haven't played him since. Moved on to Taz, now LeBron

scenic bluff
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I don't play him but I find him easier to deal with now, but he's still performing well at a high level (greetaku still makes top 8 regularly)

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hard to say though, I can't really benchmark matchups accurately without ranked plus I'm cycling between 3 characters (Vel, tnj and garnet)

granite flame
scenic bluff
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yeah this week I tried to go all in Velma, even played some brackets with her only. She's worse than TnJ for sure but probably better than my garnet

granite flame
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Garnet just isn't my type

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As a fighter I mean

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I would smash that hardened light

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@misty dew That isn't even an ayo that's just facts

misty dew
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I'm just saying you're outta pocket, never said you were wrong tho 🤝

granite flame
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Guy or gal Garnet is a smash

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That is 2 conventually attractive rocks

misty dew
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#fr

round harness
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It's weird feeling like shaggy has better projectiles than velma

granite flame
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Like it's pretty obvious that words (you can just cover your ears) are gonna be worse than a sandwich (you have to dodge)

granite flame
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I faced a Velma as LeBron and it was fun

leaden shell
ember heart
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Anyone else keep getting stuck to opponents bodies? It keeps happening when I'm about to win and so I automatically get the win because they either have to wait the timer out or KO themselves 🤣

leaden shell
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Come to think of it I’ve never seen it when a Velma’s been about to lose

muted holly
coarse shore
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What did they do to my girl 💀

muted holly
coarse shore
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She just does NOT function lol

muted holly
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double mark bug makes her projectiles useless

coarse shore
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I think what makes me the most upset is how she doesn’t have a full kit at all

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She does not have cooldown versions of moves, and functionally does not have half her specials

muted holly
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yea idk what pfg was thinking when rebalancing her

coarse shore
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Seriously

muted holly
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i get the megaphone change but she didnt need that many nerfs

coarse shore
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Y’know what, she functionally does not have ANY grounded specials. Speech bubbles are slower on the ground so it’s better to use them in the air. And her other 3 on the ground just do not exist, and one is basically a SD

ember heart
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I only started using her a couple weeks ago so idk what she used to be like

coarse shore
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Like on it’s own, actually an incredible move

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But that’s the problem. Her entire gameplan in 2s revolves around it now

muted holly
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i would argue uptilt/air is better

coarse shore
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Well ya, generally the lightbulb is

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But practically in a 2s environment she’ll be using that megaphone so much

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She’s balanced around it now for some reason

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But without nearly enough thought

muted holly
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the only thing that keeps me from using the megaphone strat is the megaphone jab bug

coarse shore
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Her megaphone before was the best move in the whole game. Screenwide railgun that killed way too early, could be aimed, and could be given to the ally to make it even stronger

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No punishment for cancelling it either at first, you could just threaten it and force them to target you, except she was incredible at boxing with her aerials and up special so she could just reversal and kill you

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It was admittedly extremely toxic and they nerfed her patch after patch. We had to watch them slowly take away everything from her: give her cooldowns, reduce then remove weaken, give her less damage, power, weight, speed, everything

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Took quite a while because that megaphone was just inherently so hard to balance around, but they finally succeeded and she was lowered to upper mid tier

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I genuinely don’t understand how they made grounded side b, an already bad move in the beta, so terrible that using it is a throw

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And how Bugs and WW were top tier basically the whole time in beta and are top tier here, but it was Velma who got the big axe. Completely with Coney there

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Something else I noticed:

Whenever characters got nerfed, they would get flavor text such as: “Superman’s being a little too goofy so we’re making his air grab a bit more fun to play around~”

Velma? Got straightforward notes such as “Removed this, reduced that”, and soon nothing at all. Just the nerfs. They really, really hated her, lol

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Still do, apparently. The balance devs have absolutely no fanfare when talking about Velma

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At least Nakat is completely for buffing her these days

calm herald
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Im ngl, the more I play Velma the more I think she isn't the "worst" character but at the same time not the best either, i'd say shes a solid C tier

leaden shell
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It’s got a good use for recovery if you have the platform perk

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That mf can launch you across the map if you want it to

coarse shore
leaden shell
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I have a solid 60% wr as Velma

coarse shore
# leaden shell Do not hate on her running move

If you have to force half your dodge meter and charge up your ability to use a very predictable, niche way of recovering…

I mean, credit where it’s due, that’s a creative way of trying to salvage it

calm herald
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I guess Jake or Garnet

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At least to me

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Of course you can think differently

leaden shell
coarse shore
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Garnet’s surprisingly slept on. Jake’s fine, actually a balanced character who needs small buffs, but overall he does his job decently well. The top tiers just kinda shut him down because they’re the top tiers

leaden shell
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It essentially puts you right behind them and lets you switch it up

calm herald
leaden shell
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I’d say Morty and Jason are worse than Velma tbh

coarse shore
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Genuinely curious

calm herald
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Also i'd say the run move is her worst move like actually

leaden shell
coarse shore
leaden shell
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I know it’s not ideal utility, but it’s not as bad as her book imo

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Which has a 60 second cooldown despite being worthless

coarse shore
calm herald
coarse shore
coarse shore
calm herald
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Oh your fine

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They all shut down Velma with ease

coarse shore
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Most characters do tbh

leaden shell
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I definitely would like to see Velma buffs but she’s not as bad as people say

coarse shore
# leaden shell I’d say Morty and Jason are worse than Velma tbh

I can see the case for Jason, but only because he has less options than her in neutral. Up close he’s an absolute monster.

Once the touch of deaths get removed, and Jason gets a lot better, he’ll become a menace because suddenly he’s dangerous if you can’t immediately kill him

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I don’t think Jason’s bad at all. Quite balanced honestly. Just needs small things

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Like being able to dodge out of his DA

dry fulcrum
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Hit 333 wins on Velma... almost all of it in 1V1s

coarse shore
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Nice!

leaden shell
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And his hit boxes mostly working

coarse shore
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Anyway, Morty… I don’t see it, sorry. Not with that grounded side b. That thing is ridiculous lol, completely makes his neutral

coarse shore
leaden shell
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That’s not too hard of an attack to avoid imo

coarse shore
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It’s deceptively so fast and leads into easy kills for him

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I love Jason too btw, so fun

dry fulcrum
leaden shell
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My ideal Velma buffs gotta be

Calculated hitbox made a little larger, and knockback made more consistent

Give her generic moves for when her book and potion are on cd OR reduce cd by a lot

Make her side special charge faster

Make her jabs follow up a little faster

Maybe not all of them, but yk some of them since these are my bigggest problems with her

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also maybe make her potion give stacks faster or make it bigger, rn it has no use because nobody is standing on that mf

calm herald
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I just want the beam from beta back

dry fulcrum
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i'd make nuetral special come out a bit faster and phase through platforms, and make megaphone have higher priority so Joker and Morty dont just hard counter the character

coarse shore
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Please give her a different down tilt, lol. Calculated is just inherently not a fun move to play with or play against, and it’s going to make her so difficult to balance because it leads into loops

Like the only way they can avoid infinites is to make it or the jab inconsistent, which is what’s currently happening, so it’s terrible lol

calm herald
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Back then I think it could phase through platforms

coarse shore
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And why can Calculated be charged…?

calm herald
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Calculated is also one of her worst moves

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They really did just gut Velma

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I guess the most you get out of it is a...mix-up????

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Idk ive never really seen Velmas use it unless they wanna bait an opponent or something

coarse shore
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A lot of her moves are the “worst” move of something lol

dry fulcrum
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In an ideal world Calculated is reworked entirely so its a true combo with jab for mix-up potential

coarse shore
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Just make it send out again, and give it unique properties like Weaken

leaden shell
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I want calculated to be good so that she has more than one options for edge guarding

dry fulcrum
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Velma being able to get weakened below 100% would be so nice

coarse shore
leaden shell
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I think if they changed the knockback to knock you into the lightbulb that would be interesting

calm herald
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Her only debuff rn is freezing but even then thats rare at this point

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I miss when air up special could apply weaken

dry fulcrum
leaden shell
calm herald
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Ive got it like...twice

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In all my games

coarse shore
#

Ya when is that frozen floor ever useful lol

coarse shore
calm herald
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It usually scares people for some reason

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Idk why it isnt that threatening

coarse shore
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Honestly if it lasted way longer it would actually be pretty good

dry fulcrum
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the only time i ever use it is as a mixup jump option or during a misinput

leaden shell
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The only utility I’ve found in calculated is (again) using the platform perk. When you hit someone on a platform they bounce off behind you, which usually takes them near the edge, forcing them to jump back, which gives you a free bulb. But that utility is pretty rare

calm herald
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I dont really like the platform perk tbh

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My perk set rn is knowledge is power, thats flammable, speed force and pugilist

dry fulcrum
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i just use the basic damage perks as the rest are rare utility plays

coarse shore
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Speed force assist feels so necessary 💀

dry fulcrum
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Snowball Effect, Last Stand and Pugilist

coarse shore
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And I like being able to parry in the air

leaden shell
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I think fire is pretty helpful on Velma since you can passively rack up 10 extra damage from any combo you use projectiles in

calm herald
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Exactly

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Its either I use that or snowball effect

dry fulcrum
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i'm always up to try different perks. truth be told i set that loadout at like 20 wins and didnt change since. but its what i'm using rn

coarse shore
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Flammable is probably better, it racks up more damage than you might realize

calm herald
#

I love using flammable

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Velma commits arson

neon ore
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Ain't even a stereotype atp sobsob

leaden shell
tame garden
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🗣️ PFG PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE A 100,000 PREMIUM MINDY KALING SKIN FOR VELMA. THAT IS THE ONLY THING US VELMA MAINS WANT 🗣️ 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

vague crystal
#

That show is god awful and so is her rendition of it

dry fulcrum
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lmaoooo, imagine the reactions if you 3 stock someone as Mindy Velma before t-bagging and salt emoting

tame garden
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the excessive salt it would generate

leaden shell
vague crystal
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It’s just dark skin Velma I’m sure they could get her to voice it possibly but that’s about it

neon ore
vague crystal
neon ore
tame garden
vague crystal
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No us Velma mains want Velma buffs

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I’ll take skins later make the character better first

dry fulcrum
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i'll probably keep using the Witch one for the rest of my time on the game, not cuz i thirst for it rather i just love the cat ears :3

leaden shell
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I wish I could be an obnoxious Velma

misty dew
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oh wait I'm thinking of the wrong one LMAO

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nvm .

coarse shore
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Anything but that Velma, good lord…

People who would pay for that, I’m genuinely wondering why lol

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I would much rather pay 2k Gleam for Hot Dog Water as a skin

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(Even if their body types don’t match shhh)

solar plank
#

Almost time...

misty dew
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if Velma doesn't have a real usable projectile by 2pm on Monday I might have to stage a protest outside of player first games headquarters

coarse shore
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Just please give her a different kit at this point lol

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The love I had for it in beta is long gone now, it’s clear we’re never getting that back

misty dew
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I go and watch my old beta clips all the time, I wanna go back 💔

leaden shell
ember heart
coarse shore
#

Mindy Velma

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From “Velma”

neon ore
misty dew
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oh oops

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well then I mean Tuesday lmao

ember heart
neon ore
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I'll be giddy with excitement when they add it

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That skin is a master baiters dream
That show worked so unfathomably well to fulfil its purpose that it got a second season just out of the hate watching

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It brings a tear to my eye

ember heart
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You frighten me

stone arrow
#

Velma is the most useless character I've ever seen in a fighting game

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And I hate it 😔

leaden shell
#

This chats filled with haters today

hallow fractal
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I love velma

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I get enough wins to keep me happy

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But buff her pls lol

muted holly
#

is the megaphone counted as a projectile?

leaden shell
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The beam from it is, but that megaphone itself is a jab

ember heart
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I'm so mad I didn't clip it but I was fighting a Bugs with Velma, got the mystery machine, then KOd Bugs. As he respawned he called in his rocket at the same time that I called in the van. The van grabbed bugs, and the rocket hit the van instantly knocking him out at 0.

muted holly
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gotta love when the van does something stupid once in a while

wind marten
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I live for moments like that

calm herald
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I feel like double Velma in 2v2 could be potentially good

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Ngl though i'd love to play in 2s with another Velma sometime if anyone is down

leaden shell
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It’s fun to drop the van off the cliff when someone’s below it’s good edge guarding

muted holly
calm herald
leaden shell
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this jason is taunting while im inside him as if i didnt just win by 3 stocks

ember heart
calm herald
calm herald
#

Any Velmas wanna run 2s?

ember heart
calm herald
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Yes

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I also sent you a friend request yesterday

ember heart
calm herald
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Bet

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Im down to do a few rounds

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Can you send an ingame invite?

ember heart
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Let me try

calm herald
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Its saying crossplay incompatibility

ember heart
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Let me check my settings... this is confusing since we're both on xbox

calm herald
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Yeah

ember heart
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Restarting game rq

calm herald
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Same

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There we go

ember heart
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Iron Giant is so busted its not even funny the balancing in this game is an absolute joke

calm herald
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And they said he was fixed

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That 2nd form he has is too op ngl

ember heart
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I truly think whichever devs decided to add him to the game have a dent in their skull

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oH bUt HeS a BiG tArGeT

calm herald
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Oh come on

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I hate Superman

ember heart
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Bruh you let them juggle me at the beginning 😭

calm herald
#

My bad

ember heart
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They were both attacking me and got me to 80 and you're off to the side at 3 damage 🤣

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I'm not mad

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Just funny

ember heart
calm herald
#

They need to nerf Iron Giant

ember heart
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Why did you jump off at the beginning? 🤔

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Lol

calm herald
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Accident

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I thought I wouldnt fall off if I did that

ember heart
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Lmao

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Yeah I'm so sick of IG but anytime I lose against one I don't feel bad because they're playing on easy mode and we're on hard mode

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Stripe is so annoying to fight too

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I hate his bs chainsaw

calm herald
#

Bugs was just mashing

ember heart
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Bugs wasn't my issue it's just the stripe

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Aside from IG being completely busted, Stripe is my most hated fighter in the game.

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I hate that dumb little goblin pos with a passion

calm herald
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That keeps happening and I hate it

ember heart
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Always with Velma

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Since Beta

calm herald
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That kill power though

ember heart
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Bro

calm herald
#

I tried to block you as best I could

ember heart
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I gotta say it's driving me nuts how it keeps coming down to me

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Like I'm always the last death

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I'm losing my mind

calm herald
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Im sorry

ember heart
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Not your fault at all

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Just the circumstances are irritating me

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That rick wouldn't get off my butt

calm herald
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My best option was to cover you while you fire projectiles

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But then Joker

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LMAO THAT LAST FRAME

ember heart
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Lol

calm herald
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Bugs wasnt finished

ember heart
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Imo the perk to spawn with a clue is better imo

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I said imo twice l

calm herald
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I do that a lot

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I use that perk for defense

ember heart
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Also please try to collect any clues you can cause I was 1 clue away from the van and it was next to you 🥲

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Rip

calm herald
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Maybe its better we have both so one can focus more on the van while the other provides the defense grey hits

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Plus I can collect your clues too while I rush them down

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Oh I didnt notice mb

ember heart
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I just don't feel like 3 gray health is worth it cause most attacks do way more damage than that

ember heart
#

Controller disconnected for absolutely no reason

calm herald
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I dont like that stage because the platforms just nullify the projectiles

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All good

ember heart
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Aye my bad something happened had to afk

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I'm back

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I'm gonna have to call it after a couple matches

calm herald
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Well that was weird

ember heart
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Bro it came down to me again

calm herald
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Tom would not leave you alone

ember heart
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My first life I got to 180 damage and 2nd life I got to 130

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💀

calm herald
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Sometimes Velma doesnt wanna die

ember heart
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Nah brother I am just doing perfect dodges as much as I can hoping you would ring one of them out 😭

calm herald
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They were running all over the place

ember heart
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Tried so hard to stay alive 😪

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I killed that superman at 30 damage lmao

calm herald
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Hell yeah

ember heart
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Brother I NEEDED you to kill finn so bad

calm herald
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I was trying to get Harley off you

ember heart
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I was at 130 and that harley just kept spamming her hammer. The finn was almost out...

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I just realized we should probably dm instead of filling the velma chat 😅

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Aye but gg bro I gotta hop off this game driving me nuts ngl

calm herald
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Gg

ember heart
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If I seemed mad at all I'm not mad at you just the state of the game

calm herald
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Good thing were getting the mid season big patch which I hope helps Velma

ember heart
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Idk bro the devs don't seem to care about Velma at all

robust siren
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Velma is so fun until you get superglued to your opponent

desert roost
ember heart
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And she's still not fixed since the game launched in May

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If she isn't fixed with the new update I will completely lose hope for her ever getting fixed

dry fulcrum
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Hoping for good buffs. As of rn she needs a LOT. Almost all of her moves need to be at least a fair bit faster just to be better than Jason and Jake. Not even noting fundamental problems like Megaphone being very readable, Mystery Machine's awful AI, and neutral special not going through platforms

latent gyro
cursive tendon
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velma getting fixed today 🙏

vague crystal
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Velma better be getting buffs

stone arrow
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Ong

leaden shell
open rivet
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Surrounding myself with Scooby Doo DVD's with lit candles to evoke Velma buffs this patch

spice anvil
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What perks should i use for velma?

leaden shell
open rivet
leaden shell
dry fulcrum
muted holly
leaden shell
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I cant make it someone lmk how they do velma

desert roost
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I'm sitting here waiting for Velma buff anwers

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lol

muted holly
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probably second to last on the list

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i think theyre going alphabetical

desert roost
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Yeah

hallow fractal
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Same. Buff velma

wind arch
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Bruh, if they don’t buff Velma

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I will destroy everything

desert roost
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they buffing VELMA

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!!!@!

leaden shell
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!!!!1

muted holly
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well who wouldve guessed

desert roost
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She got a "carpackage BUFF"

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PRAISEEE

dry fulcrum
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WE WON

wind arch
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OMGFFFF

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OMG

leaden shell
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what are they

muted holly
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how about they actually say what has been changed

desert roost
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THEY FIXED QUIPS FINALLY

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PRAISE GOD

wind arch
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🙏🙏

muted holly
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most changes woohoo

hallow fractal
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Yassssss

wind arch
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We eating good !!

desert roost
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Velma players are finna "EAT GOOD" - NAKAT

wind arch
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Really good !!

dry fulcrum
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Velma finally moving out of the bottom 1 spot

muted holly
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watch it all be like +1 dmg or slight knockback increases

wind arch
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💀

calm herald
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YEAHHHH

abstract fox
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so next patch, tomorrow, only a partial fix on the bubbles... 🤡

leaden shell
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SPEED UP HER JABS

calm herald
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THE WORD BUBBLES DONT HIT PLATFORMS ANYMORE

leaden shell
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PLS

desert roost
muted holly
calm herald
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Finally I can stop hating on Dexters stage

desert roost
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^

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Or any stage with platforms

calm herald
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Dexters was the worst

dry fulcrum
calm herald
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I was only here for the Velma buffs and im happy with what I heard

abstract fox
leaden shell
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did they mention fixing the issue where bubbles just going through people somtimes? thats been a problem since the beta

calm herald
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No

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They didnt

leaden shell
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ok!

muted holly
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they barely gave any information

calm herald
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Give us beta neutral attack back

desert roost
muted holly
abstract fox
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add the "meaningful" word to it then I'll be excited, got too burned now, need to see (and play) to believe.

dry fulcrum
desert roost
abstract fox
glossy crow
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Velma players finally get to eat

desert roost
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💡

abstract fox
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oops, quoted wrong person

calm herald
glossy crow
muted holly
abstract fox
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^her current state in-game...

desert roost
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I wonder what they're going to do to Velma's freeze pool because it doesn't really do anything lol

muted holly
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hopefully they make it freeze faster

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and maybe make it a little wider

desert roost
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Yeah! It only froze faster in beta because you could take the thing that made it add freeze faster

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But that Perk is gone

rocky halo
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finally

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glory

open rivet
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Finally... Jinkies

dry fulcrum
desert roost
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And we will rule over the land once more!

weary delta
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word balloons no longer popping at stage platforms is big

desert roost
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It's so huge. W for Velma's

muted holly
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now lets hope she gets any meaningful buffs

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and not some weird "buffs" that cause issues themselves

patent plinth
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With all the changes coming, I gotta question how they approved of her at launch haha

muted holly
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poorly playtested ig

hallow fractal
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I'm already getting Ws so I'm more excited

dry fulcrum
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hit a 75% recent winrate with her today, i am more than ready

stone arrow
rocky halo
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i am resplendent

cursive tendon
stone arrow
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Did they majorly buff velma finally?

desert roost
muted holly
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i wonder what they did to down special

stone arrow
desert roost
leaden shell
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I think it works well as more of an interrupt attack than a knockback one

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I’d rather they change it entirely

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No move (no matter how good) should have a 60+ second cd in a fighting game where your stock only ever lasts a minute

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And that book ain’t even good

solar plank
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I'll be honest: hearing "too many changes for us to go over here" is exactly what Velma needs. Because she does need that level of change.

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But until they release notes or show previews or something, nothing to do but sit and wait.

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Confirmation that the Sass projectiles won't be blocked by platforms is great, though.

cursive tendon
solar plank
cursive tendon
solar plank
carmine dune
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is Velma a actual character in the video game now

warm lily
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Welcome back to the game Velma mains

stark pewter
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do we finally end the torture

stone arrow
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Velma
These are the changes we were referring to after our Velma changes in the 1.02 patch. We hope to address some of the worst bugs impacting Velma players and also give her some strength in her zoning tools.
• General
• * Fixed an issue where Velma could get stuck to any fighter that grabbed Velma under certain conditions
• Passive
• * Fixed an issue where evidence would stop randomly spawning on the map after Velma was rung out.
• Ground Side Attack 1
• + On-whiff branch window advanced 4 frames
• Ground Side Attack 2
• + On-whiff branch window advanced 4 frames
• Ground Up Attack
• + Velma can now hold forward to slide forward during attack start-up
• Air/Ground Neutral Attack
• + Velma can now aim the megaphone
• Air/Ground Neutral Special
• ~ Branch windows now standardized for both air and ground versions
• ~ “Heyyy” projectile hurtbox size increased to match hitbox size. Should address issues with inconsistent projectile interactions.
• + All speech bubble types no longer collide with fall-through platforms
• Ground Side Special
• + Minimum charge run speed increased
• - Knockback reduced to 2300 from 2500
• + Knockback scaling increased to 9 from 0
• * Fixed an issue where Velma could run off the screen if the ground was destroyed beneath her while running
• Air Side Special
• ~ Now ignores player collisions during movement
• Air Up Special
• + Now has a chance to spawn evidence
• Ground Down Special (Mystery Machine)
• * Fixed an issue where Velma could fall to her death if the ground was destroyed beneath her while summoning the Mystery Machine

tidal onyx
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So she’s decent now?

stone arrow
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Yesa finally

carmine dune
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is she worth buying now?

solar plank
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Well the patch isn't out until tomorrow, so have to wait to see how she stacks up against everyone else's changes

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BUT some massively needed changes.

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Sad to the point of laughter that her side special LEGITIMATELY was designed to never KO with knockback scaling of 0. What was causing such a problem in testing that they decided to make it pointless?

cursive tendon
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the fact it was 0 further proves my point no playtesting was done 💀

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maybe if it had less bkb and could combo i would understand but i have no clue what they were cooking

solar plank
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Also not a fan of her not being able to cancel the side special wind-up still, apparently, but we'll see if it'l actually be a reasonable option that deserves the risk

main magnet
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I doubt you'll ever use side special anyway

cursive tendon
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dude that thing used to murder

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run across the stage at 90mph then spike your opponents when you drop them

main magnet
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Things I'm looking forward to test, does the slide on up attack allow for jab 1 2 - up attack to be more consistent?

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If so she may have an actually consistent kill confirm

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Aiming megaphone is obviously huge

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And Heyyy projectiles going through platforms

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I'm very happy

solar plank
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I also wish they'd done anything about her signature perks, but that can wait

dry fulcrum
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I could cry she seems good now

stone arrow
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:))

desert roost
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@manic fern
Passive
• * Fixed an issue where evidence would stop randomly spawning on the map after Velma was rung out.

They heard ya

stone arrow
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Major fix

manic fern
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Oh, patch notes got posted!

desert roost
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We can aim megaphone again PRAISE GOD and the fixed Quips

manic fern
desert roost
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These are a start to some good changes. I'm so happy.

leaden shell
stone arrow
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Velma finna be fun asf now

warm lily
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I’ve literally only seen 3 Velma players in the like 130 hours I’ve played so far

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It’ll be nice to finally see some more

leaden shell
latent gyro
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Ground up attack movement sounds nice

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But ngl my favorite change might be the side special one. I hope that move becomes a kill move because it’d be funny asf to yeet people to their death

leaden shell
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Yeah

stone arrow
leaden shell
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I’ve been having fun and winning with her so idk

stone arrow
desert roost
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I think we can all agree we play her because we love her. It’s fun to play Velma again but it definitely is a struggle lol.

calm herald
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WE EATING GOOD THIS PATCH

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Velma doesnt seem to be the worst anymore at least

solar plank
# leaden shell I’ve been having fun and winning with her so idk

Legitimately happy for you, but her issues directly caused me to stop bothering until this update because the exact things they addressed were issues that didn't make a lick of sense to me and made her feel like a half-finished character.

Barrings bugs, she'll be back to fun for me.

wind marten
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War is over

robust siren
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Velma can aim the megaphone again i think im gonna cry 🥹

stone arrow
desert roost
old whale
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how 2 kill jerry

muted holly
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now we just need to wait and see how much of an angle we can aim it

weary delta
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hey velmas

ember elm
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Sup

weary delta
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how happy are you about the run having knockback scaling now instead of being literally useless

ember elm
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Seems like a well deserved buff since they killed her from the beta

weary delta
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I was in awe reading the patch notes and seeing it went up from being 0. insane the move was just like that.

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Can't wait to play her more now

robust siren
leaden shell
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How much exactly is 9 knockback scaling

warm lily
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I don’t think anyone knows

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But my immediate guess is 9 knockback points per 1% damage dealt

leaden shell
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I see

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That’s not actually that crazy lol since it starts 500 less

warm lily
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That’s the only thing that makes sense considering some moves are dealing like 2000+ knockback

leaden shell
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Still a nice change

warm lily
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At 100%, it’ll do 900 units more knockback

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So that’s about a 30% knockback increase compared to how far it hits before v1.05

main magnet
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OMG

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IM SO FREAKING HAPPY

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SHE CAN ANGLE MEGAPHONE

dry fulcrum
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side special feels like a real move now instead of immediately dying due to a misinput on book

tidal onyx
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Is the game updated?

muted holly
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if i can believe general yes

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ill check if servers are back

tidal onyx
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Ok

muted holly
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yes its updated

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cleaner fighter select too

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ok so my conclusion

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this beam aiming is useless due to the tiny angle

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her uptilt is insane