Morty Smith

[fallow yarrow]

They have to get money from the people who are inpatient and don’t want to wait

And skins

It’s a f2p fighting game

It’s a weird new way to use the f2p model

If they don’t do like early access grinding for fighters they go bankrupt

They already pay a lot of fees

On every character the put in the game

[edgy wasp]

almost all of these practices theyve been using are industry standard, siege does the "buy this character early" thing too

[fallow yarrow]

Thank god

This game would die if it isn’t for that

This is not very sustainable

Like at all

[gentle lake]

Notice how I said it took 5 years to add a cooldown on Shaggy when it's only been 3 and a half.

This is because they still haven't done it yet.

[fallow yarrow]

from what I heard

Tony’s is a bad manager

And can’t think of the game

All the testers are Tony’s friends

So it’s very biased to say the least

[gentle lake]

Would it be wrong to say Dan Fornace would do a better job at managing this game?

[fallow yarrow]

Idk who he is

[gentle lake]

What about Ludwig?

[fallow yarrow]

Yuh

I’m saying that Tony is just focused on doing cool things

Like cinematics for rifts

And dosent bother with other aspects

Like missions bp (progression system)

[gentle lake]

So he does not put the Player First.

[fallow yarrow]

Yes

He has good connections but bad management

Also every character there’s fees to be payed every day

[frozen lance]

Yknow we should make a tier list of how doomer a character player base is

[edgy wasp]

morty would be close to the top

this entire chat loves to downplay him like their life depends on it

[gentle lake]

So we stop downplaying him to get Tony to consider fixing him?

[frozen lance]

Most players downplay their character tho

I’ve seen Finn mains say their character is balanced even before the nerfs

[gentle lake]

Those Finn mains are not people.

[frozen lance]

We get the most hate because the people who play Morty toxic are usually the ones most seen

Aka campy Mortys

[edgy wasp]

thats all morties

morty is a character defined by camping

[gentle lake]

That's all visible morties

[gentle lake]

He was designed with camping in mind.

[edgy wasp]

no

he was designed to camp and nothing else

[fallow yarrow]

Wait

Then why are you hating on us

[edgy wasp]

because you choose to play this character, you do it willingly

[gentle lake]

Here. Take this mic (🎤). Go tell Tony that he needs to shift his focus.

[fallow yarrow]

I’m sorry I love Morty

I love rick and Morty

I’m sorry I’m a fan of their show

[edgy wasp]

play rick then

[fallow yarrow]

I do

Lmao

#50 rick

[gentle lake]

Yeah, he's enjoyable.

[edgy wasp]

quit morty then

[fallow yarrow]

Why

I like rick and Morty

[gentle lake]

TELL TONY TO FIX HIS FRICKIN CHARACTER

[fallow yarrow]

They are my 2 mains

[edgy wasp]

Diamond 2 I assume

[fallow yarrow]

Yeah

[edgy wasp]

not bashing it

[fallow yarrow]

So?

[frozen lance]

I play Morty because I like how fast some of his moves can be thrown out

[edgy wasp]

its just no one plays rick 😭

[fallow yarrow]

I play Morty cus I like rick and Morty

[edgy wasp]

he gets less players than garnet

[fallow yarrow]

💀

[gentle lake]

Then ask Tony to buff Garnet too.

[edgy wasp]

we been sayin that

[fallow yarrow]

Oh oh

[gentle lake]

Say it louder and with more force.

[fallow yarrow]

Looks like the things you say don’t matter

[gentle lake]

Say it so that he can't ignore.

[frozen lance]

Doesn’t Garnet have a true 0TD?

[gentle lake]

Everyone has a 0td

[edgy wasp]

should I throw a brick through his window with the text "NERF MORTY BUFF GARNET"? y'all think that would work?

[fallow yarrow]

No 😭

Not a true one

[fallow yarrow]

Yea

[edgy wasp]

ufo + plumbus

[fallow yarrow]

dosent work anymore

Lmao

[frozen lance]

Listen man I’ve heard people complain about Garnet being overpowered

[fallow yarrow]

Tech patched it

[frozen lance]

I’ve heard people complain about all characters being overpowered

I played Morty becauss I saw him and was like hey that looks fun

I like grenade

And was going to play him even after the patch which demolished sair happened

[fallow yarrow]

Me when I play my character and get hated for it

[edgy wasp]

garnet does technically have a 0 death but only on stages like townsville where the blast zones are 2 inches away and only if your opponent DIs down and in mindlessly the entire time

[gentle lake]

Sorry?

[fallow yarrow]

Yup

It’s not doable anymore

[gentle lake]

Well, isn't that a relief.

[fallow yarrow]

What

😭

[edgy wasp]

i dont think thats true, cant you do the 0td without ground bouncing them?

[gentle lake]

I was getting tired of seeing that.

[fallow yarrow]

Nope

[fallow yarrow]

That was our only 0 to death

And you just said

Thank god

💀

[gentle lake]

Because it sucks.

[edgy wasp]

if plumbus can get a hit while theyre below the platform they can get dragged up without ground bouncing afaik

[fallow yarrow]

IT WAS SOMETHING

[edgy wasp]

on larger characters mostly

[fallow yarrow]

i get that

But you have to be fighting a bot to do that

[frozen lance]

Plumbus is a move man

[gentle lake]

Yeah, well what good is something that isn't fun.

[fallow yarrow]

There’s no way a normal person would fall for that

[gentle lake]

You'd be surprised.

[fallow yarrow]

Did you get hit by it

[fallow yarrow]

I used to hit it all the time

[gentle lake]

Plenty. I also hit it a few times and got very little satisfaction out of it.

[fallow yarrow]

Idk man I’m sorry?

It was a good way to kill

[edgy wasp]

larger characters like jason, superman, garnet, IG, etc

[fallow yarrow]

That would be a skill issue

I ain’t gonna lie

[edgy wasp]

am i crazy for thinking ufo can just outright make morty immune to spikes

thats not okay

[frozen lance]

It has a start up

I’ve died multiple times due to that start up

Also if its a strong enough spike idk if you have enough time to start up ufo

[gentle lake]

Yep, you are. If Morty is close enough to a wall, he falls through the UFO.

[ancient spire]

Most characters have problems lol

Who designed arya stark and assumed people would be like

"yeah this is a fun match!"

[ancient spire]

Its a recovery option

That he can use like once every millennium

Most spikes that would kill him would kill him before he gets to use it

So really its just

A more reliable wall jump

Half the time morty falls through his own ufo though lol

[edgy wasp]

that you cant contest or you risk getting caught and dying off the top

🙃

[gentle lake]

Or kill the Morty wildly easier.

But yeah, if the Morty knows what he's doing, he kills you at 60.

[edgy wasp]

i havent seen this happen once

[frozen lance]

How many Mortys do you fight?

[ancient spire]

Its because most mortys adapted to not using it near the bottom of the map

[gentle lake]

I'm thinking of a number less than 8.

Which isn't a lot, but it's a thought.

[edgy wasp]

I play Ranked semi-frequently, does that answer your question?

[ancient spire]

Morty is less and less common each netf

Nerf

[edgy wasp]

hes still one of the more popular characters in ranked

[gentle lake]

I don't see many, but the ones I do see use a lot more grenades.

[frozen lance]

He is? Tho I don’t play ranked much so I’m one to talk

[drifting plume]

Fel still mad that he can't win against Morty? Lmao

[maiden pollen]

morty still annoying asf to fight cant really blame him

even though he might not be as good

[ancient spire]

I honestly cannot tell i barely play ranked

But i also barely play multiversus so it cancels out

[ancient spire]

Im not sure if thats true

Most of ranked is exploitably good characters that are easy to climb rank with

Morty and Rick are like the only characters in ranked that preform exceptionally well with a lot of effort

With the exception of all the other hard characters having better tools

[edgy wasp]

ima be dead honest with u, morty is not a hard character

game likes to label him as such but he is piss easy

[frozen lance]

If he was designed well, he’d be hard

Imagine a world where dirt didn’t exist for one second

[gentle lake]

Imagine a world where they remove the cooldown for Aerial Side Special, but added one for Dirt.

[maiden pollen]

nah good mortys still have some really cool setups and plays with nade/snakes though yeah hes not hard to get into

[viscid palm]

bros been crying about morty for 3 days

[viscid palm]

he’s completely braindead

it always boils down to blaster dirt upair 75% of the time

[frozen lance]

To kill yeah

But a lot of characters have to fish for a specific kill confirm

[drifting plume]

No character is hard to play rn, Rick used to be hard on beta cuz he was a real setplay character but release make him easier, just jab jab iad sair

Everyone either has a good jab combo or has some kind of cheese making them easy characters

[edgy wasp]

not really, morty is just easy period

[drifting plume]

Maybe just beetlejuice cuz he sucks at killing but just a few hours and you learn how 0-70 into a good setup

[drifting plume]

Everyone is easy lol

[edgy wasp]

you need 3 buttons to win as morty

[drifting plume]

At this point literally anyone can pick a character and get to masters

[edgy wasp]

oh youre one of those

[drifting plume]

No character is bad to being hard

[drifting plume]

Sorry but I really believe any character can work, I don't make excuses when I lose lol

[edgy wasp]

you play morty, you don't need excuses

[drifting plume]

But you being in this channel for almost 3 days when u don't main Morty is crazy

[frozen lance]

How many do you need as Finn?

[edgy wasp]

more than morty

all 3 tilts, up special, sair, nair, side special
morty needs dirt, snake gun, up air, and maybe bombs if youre feeling generous

[drifting plume]

Wait till he realizes than most of garnet combos comes from 3 buttons lol

[edgy wasp]

thats it
combos

and even then its more than three lol

garnet actually has depth and nuance

[drifting plume]

Side b jab side b into nair ohhh so hard to play omg

[edgy wasp]

morty is as surface level as you can get

[drifting plume]

Nah

She easy

Even the game says so

[edgy wasp]

what the game says doesnt matter, morty exists

[drifting plume]

Lol?

[edgy wasp]

idc if you think shes easy, whether she is or not has nothing to do with what i just said

i said "she has depth and nuance" not "shes a hard character to play"

she is absolutely harder than morty though

cant get much easier than morty

spit it out

[drifting plume]

So he's the easier character to play?

[edgy wasp]

damn it took you that long to type that?

[frozen lance]

Morty has depth

[drifting plume]

?

[maiden pollen]

erm what the sigma

[drifting plume]

You are so annoying I don't need to be fast for u

I type what I want holy

Calm down lil bro

[edgy wasp]

gonna keep being annoying just for you <3

you type slow

[plush owl]

ew

[drifting plume]

I see how I broke your mental so bad on that game that you want to talk to me I guess

But whatever, I won the set

I have the reason

[edgy wasp]

you pressed 3 buttons to win dont get your ego all inflated bud

garnet is -2 with morty

[drifting plume]

Skill issue

Santy would win that but you are so bad you lost to a random morty

[edgy wasp]

I'll be looking at your matchup spread to see if you lose more often to mortys -2 mus

then i'll come back and ask you what happened

[drifting plume]

That's a real fan, thank you

[edgy wasp]

can you stop comparing me to top 3?

i dont play this game enough to be that good

[fallow yarrow]

Too bad our combos don’t exist ya know

And we can’t do anything about it

And people keep jumping us on the “your easy you don’t do combos argument”

[edgy wasp]

I see a trend of you losing most of your games when you're not playing morty. Less than 40% win rate as Beetlejuice, a brand new character that A: has an infinite and B: no one knows the matchup for. I'd honestly be embarrassed by that

[fallow yarrow]

To get into that infinite you gotta di in

💀

[edgy wasp]

works regardless against characters larger than BA, i tested it in lab

[fallow yarrow]

That’s if they’re big

[winged atlas]

Is Fel still here

😭🙏

[fallow yarrow]

Yup

[edgy wasp]

i get pinged like once every 30 seconds bruh

[fallow yarrow]

Homie gotta be tweaking bros still here

[edgy wasp]

dpr the definition of carried

[drifting plume]

Beetlejuice is hard to play, if you don't think so show me on a 1v1 rn

[fallow yarrow]

What do you expect you say we are crap at the game constantly

[edgy wasp]

i dont own him

[fallow yarrow]

And you just hate us

[edgy wasp]

lol

[fallow yarrow]

Then don’t speak 😭

Bro has no experience and yet speaks everytime

[edgy wasp]

skill issue honestly

just learn him better

[fallow yarrow]

Skill issue honestly

Ur just bad at the game

[edgy wasp]

him being "hard to play" should be balanced out by no one knowing the matchup

[drifting plume]

You know what's funny? I still have a better winrate than u

[fallow yarrow]

Says the 20 year old complaint about an e for everyone game

[edgy wasp]

and he still has an infinite!

[edgy wasp]

as morty btw

[fallow yarrow]

If you di in

[edgy wasp]

we've already established you're carried

[drifting plume]

Not important

[fallow yarrow]

Bros talking trash

Can someone 1v1 him

[edgy wasp]

we've already established you're carried, you dont need to keep bringing it up

[fallow yarrow]

I would do it but it’s night for me

[drifting plume]

Ur winrate is 58.9%
While mine is 62.1%

While being in the same tier?

Holy

[winged atlas]

Morty isnt S tier

[edgy wasp]

once again
morty

[drifting plume]

You don't know how to play garnet that's all

[edgy wasp]

he was! and arguably still is depending on who you ask

[drifting plume]

He's not lol, not even on 2's

[fallow yarrow]

Next thing bro is going to say is ig is more balanced than Morty

[edgy wasp]

i have an 80% recent win rate from what i remember, it might have dropped to 70 but idk

[fallow yarrow]

This is just bait at this point

We gotta stop responding to this bait

[winged atlas]

Im talking about now not before, we are in season 2 not season 1 right?

[drifting plume]

Morty can't even fight against joker, ww, shaggy
Not even on 2's against ww, BA or steven

[fallow yarrow]

Again

He’s baiting

[drifting plume]

HAHAHAHAH

[fallow yarrow]

Don’t respond

[drifting plume]

Good joke

[edgy wasp]

i win 90% of my matches in casual ones and like 50-60% in ranked

[fallow yarrow]

Bait do not respond 🗣️🗣️🗣️

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

DO NOT respond

[winged atlas]

Yap monster

[edgy wasp]

90% is an exaggeration but i win most of em

[fallow yarrow]

Bait

Do not respond 😭

[edgy wasp]

"lalalalala i cant hear you" headass

[fallow yarrow]

Bait

[winged atlas]

As garnet btw

[drifting plume]

At this point I'm just gonna do this, mf talks about characters he doesn't even have, Then when you tell them someone is better than them it's either ''Oh my character'' or ''Oh I don't have time to play'' cmon stop typing and go to play the game lmao

[fallow yarrow]

I couldn’t care less lmao

[drifting plume]

Just a ragebait

[fallow yarrow]

It’s bait

It’s pointless arguing against this rage bait

[winged atlas]

He is just mad he cant fight against Joker

Why did i say Joker

Morty

[fallow yarrow]

Don’t respond lmao

He’s a rage baiter

[drifting plume]

I have less matches and a better winrate but the only thing he's going to say is ''Ohhh but you play x'' nah

[fallow yarrow]

A 20 year old rage baiter

[drifting plume]

I'm just laughing at this point bruh

[edgy wasp]

just noticing that you cant play any character except morty

[fallow yarrow]

Ragebait

[edgy wasp]

says a lot about you as a player

[fallow yarrow]

20 year old rage baiter

Lady’s and gentleman here is a person who belongs in the zooo

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[edgy wasp]

arguing with room temperature iq losers is a fun pastime what can i say

[fallow yarrow]

Rage baiter

Go back to the zoo

🗣️🙏

[maiden pollen]

the zoo came out of nowhere kinda based ngl

[winged atlas]

Just stop talking in the chat

[fallow yarrow]

I’m just based like that

[winged atlas]

Let they talk alone

[fallow yarrow]

True

[edgy wasp]

if i had a nickel for every time i heard this joke i'd have enough to buy the entirety of warner bros

not original

[frozen lance]

Possibly a one trick

[fallow yarrow]

Don’t talk

[edgy wasp]

definitely a one trick

[fallow yarrow]

He’s a raise baiter

[edgy wasp]

bro says this as he takes the drama to the garnet thread

[fallow yarrow]

I just had to make sure they accepted you in their community

[frozen lance]

That’s not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that someone has really good character fundies but might not have good general fundies

[fallow yarrow]

Imagine talking for 3 days straight saying how bad we are for playing a character we like

[native knot]

Master 1 with Morty finally

[edgy wasp]

congrats

[plush owl]

Nice. ^-^

[frozen lance]

Pog

[native knot]

Thanks

I checked the Morty 2v2 top 100 and there are 4 grandmaster Morty players and 32 Master 1 Mortys (including me)

Everyone in ranks 5-73 on the Morty 2v2 top 100 is Master rank everyone below is a diamond rank with the lowest being diamond 4

I can just take a break from morty and wait until the season is over to get my rewards

[cursive wharf]

day 4 of asking Player first games for sir mortaniel skin @supple trench

[edgy wasp]

there are grandmaster morties in twos?

isnt morty pretty bad in twos?

[open terrace]

He’s fine in twos

[frozen lance]

I think he’s solid

[open terrace]

Basically if you have decent projectiles in 2s you will do good

[native knot]

There are characters like black adam and tom and jerry that I don't like fighting in dubs but other that the rest are mostly beatable

[gentle lake]

There are literally only three buttons.

[edgy wasp]

how does that disprove what i said

[gentle lake]

It doesn't.

[edgy wasp]

morty is just

fundamentally unhealthy for the game

[gentle lake]

In his current state, I have to agree with you on that one.

[edgy wasp]

he needs heavy reworks, his tools rn basically force him to dirt camp

[winged atlas]

U can see they gave up on Morty and just made him a mage

Instead of reworking his kit

Its sad

[edgy wasp]

yea

they tried at one point

they buffed his jab

but like

genuinely dirt needs to be outright removed and replaced with something better

give him a slow kill move on side special instead of dirt and buff the rest of his kit (other than bomb, nerf bomb downward kb)

and maybe buff aerial side special range while removing its armor, its genuinely impossible to keep a morty that mixes up side special timing in disadvantage because of armor rn

[frozen lance]

Alright so heres how you rework dirt

Make it real slow, like really slow

But it kills really well

High risk high reward

[edgy wasp]

disagree

[frozen lance]

Have a pretty late start up

[edgy wasp]

make it close range only and make it kill

[winged atlas]

Remove the insane start and turn it into whiff lag

[edgy wasp]

make the range of dirt super short, like right in front of morty and uncontrollable, and make it kill

maybe buff the startup and whiff little bit to compensate

[winged atlas]

The start up thing just make it so u get more rewarded for being campy with Morty

And spamming dirt

Whiff lag would work

[edgy wasp]

theres no way to balance dirt as a long range tool without making it useless

it needs a full on rework

[frozen lance]

What about removing the weakened?

Isn’t that part of the issue?

[winged atlas]

Fr

[edgy wasp]

wouldnt help, would still be an easy way to rack up damage with snake gun

if you land snake gun dirt is guaranteed

[frozen lance]

Honestly you could just rework the move to be an up close combo tool instead of a long ranged

[edgy wasp]

yes, and give him back his old sair

nerf the timer on bombs and give him back his old sair

[frozen lance]

And make whip actually true

[edgy wasp]

disagree with whip buff, thatd encourage him to camp for whiff and only engage in combos when he lands it

[frozen lance]

Jab jab whip actually being true?

[edgy wasp]

oh thats what you meant?

yea thats fine

[frozen lance]

Yeah

Thats for some reason not true

[edgy wasp]

i thought jab jab whip already was true i'll be dead honest

i dont get hit with it enough

[frozen lance]

Nah you can dodge out of it for some reason

One reason why Morty’s complain so much is that

[edgy wasp]

morty is an insanely clunky character

he has like 3 moves that are viable but those 3 moves basically play the game for him

[frozen lance]

Not wrong

[frozen lance]

Its why Morty mains complain so much about their character is being they see glass half empty

[edgy wasp]

i feel like a lot of morty players would be mad if he got reworked anyway

cuz their precious dirt got nerfed/removed

[frozen lance]

Depends on the Mortys you ask

Verlified yeah

Honestly I wouldn’t

[edgy wasp]

i can name some names in this channel but i dont wanna start anything again

i really hope pfg can get their balancing in order eventually

[frozen lance]

Hopefully

[gentle lake]

Actually, I tried that on a character for a Workshop brawler. It worked there, what's stopping PFG?

[frozen lance]

Laziness

Or different priorities

Idk this is PFG we’re talking about

@edgy wasp Just fought the most annoying thing in my life, a Morty as Batman

Bro ran for the hills

That was obnoxious

I won’t say hes insanely good but will say he can be annoyinf

[edgy wasp]

try fighting morty as garnet

a morty that knows how to abuse his classic 3 buttons is torture to fight

[frozen lance]

He actually used aerials to move the grenades but other then that yeah

Tho no clue why they decided Plumbus was a good move idea still

[winged atlas]

Now that Morty is a mage make it so his granades dont die to everything

Even gizmo projectile

[edgy wasp]

considering they kill you at 50 i dont think they need to be buffed any more than they are

[winged atlas]

Nerf its knockback

Also

Morty is so buggy

Today i hit a gizmo with a granade

And exploded it when it was inside his hitbox

He was at 130

And it didnt kill him, he didnt even go up a Lil bit

It was just like an stun gun

[frozen lance]

The characters inconsistent

Doesn’t make him necessarily bad

Black Adam has been considered inconsistent by his mains

[plush owl]

More than 50 unique bugs have been discovered with Morty. It's wild, some have been here since he was released in beta.

[edgy wasp]

thats not a morty thing every hitbox in the game does that

its just a dumb bug

[frozen lance]

Dirt will also sometimes go behind Morty

[edgy wasp]

probably a super specific setup to do that tho

[frozen lance]

Idk, I’ve seen the dirt thing pretty consistently in general

[winged atlas]

Dirt getting stuck on map has messed up so many games...

[plush owl]

Dirt randomly choosing to get stuck inside Morty, or go behind, is very painful.

[edgy wasp]

i can say with confidence that ive never seen that happen to any morty i've fought

[winged atlas]

These bugs only happen on stages that some part of the floor gets removed or smaller

Like the Scooby one

Or the PPG

[viscid palm]

intentionally ignorant lmao

it’s easy to pretend a character has no issues when you close your eyes anytime the issues are shown to you

[winged atlas]

Morty should get nerfed

Not even joking

Reworked

You get a way too much rewarded for being super campy

[viscid palm]

go play him hyper aggressive lmk how it goes

[flat stream]

Yeah but that’s not playing him optimally, and that’s not what makes him so good

It’s like saying Samus in Smash isn’t top 20 because you can choose to play her without using her best move (Charge Shot)

[winged atlas]

Im masters 3 with Morty

And i dont camp at all

I can send u a clip of me playing

But what i dont like is how you get more rewarded for playing super campy

Wait to stun gun to charge

Use it

Do smth

Run away

[viscid palm]

i could get a monkey to masters on any character if all it did was play multiversus lol

kinda means nothing to me

[winged atlas]

No i just said i am masters to say i play a lot of Morty

Not trying to look badass or smth

Veriflied is almost masters with Jason and doesnt even play him right

[viscid palm]

doesn’t change the fact that playing around snakes is the safest/most optimal way to play the character rn

[edgy wasp]

saying this doesnt change anyones mind about morty having a terrible playstyle

the character cant do anything but camp

thats not healthy game design

[viscid palm]

i agree

gg

[frozen lance]

Sonic from smash exists

[edgy wasp]

not healthy design either

[frozen lance]

Character played optimally if he times out the opponent

[viscid palm]

yep

[edgy wasp]

i saw that, rip to you for 5 minutes but i agree lolol

[viscid palm]

verified is garbage 😂😂

just proves my point

[frozen lance]

Ranked is garbage

[edgy wasp]

rank in this game does not matter at all, just a measure of how much you play the game

[frozen lance]

Exactomundo

And people will still complain about amount of elo handed out

Its also why saying your this rank of character doesn’t mean that much

[viscid palm]

yep i could get masters on my level 0 not even unlocked beetlejuice if i played as much as someone who doesn’t have a job or have hobbies outside of the game

not saying that to be mean

[edgy wasp]

i think this game rewards winstreaks and punishes loss streaks similar to tekkens ranked system

[viscid palm]

it’s just the way PFG does ranked for some reason

[viscid palm]

big difference is that tekkens ranked system is actually decent 😂

[frozen lance]

I have a level 0 SJ from getting the battle pass that if I actually cared I could get him to masters

[edgy wasp]

theyre very similar from what i've seen, mvs is just an easy game lol

tekken is by far the hardest fighting game on the market

[frozen lance]

Yeah, I’ve heard people complaining about the skill cap for the game

[viscid palm]

with tekken you’re gonna get dog walked if you don’t belong in a rank

mvs is super easy and i stomp people but ive been flying through ranks by just playing a couple games at night

[frozen lance]

But the thing is MVS isn’t designed to be hard so why are you playing MVS if you want a high skill cap? Doesn’t make sense

I could probably learn to camp more as Morty and insta Masters

[viscid palm]

the problem i’m having is they seem to remove skill expression from characters

[edgy wasp]

mvs is smash but easy, its like fighting game junk food. the game is easy but still really fun if you're not getting matchup checked by a top tier

[viscid palm]

so everybody plays a character the same

every shaggy fishes for jab

every morty plays for snakes

etc

[frozen lance]

Every Taz spams two moves

[edgy wasp]

cuz thats all he has

he has two moves

that define him as a character

[frozen lance]

Honestly I feel like taking more notes from smash would be better in general

I mean aside from Samus or Sonic

[edgy wasp]

they have, notice how the new characters have actually healthy designs?

[frozen lance]

Those two belong in MVS

[frozen lance]

Joker?

I mean honestly yeah outside of Joker

[viscid palm]

nah jack and BJ

[edgy wasp]

Beetlejuice and SJ are well designed, Jason (despite being garbage) is well designed, Joker is the exception to the rule

[viscid palm]

relatively healthy

[frozen lance]

To me Jason’s honestly a really well designed heavy

[maiden pollen]

banana guard got the healthiest design imo pure potasium that stuff is really good for you

[frozen lance]

And then Smith is soooo well designed

Like phenomenal design

[edgy wasp]

nana guard has the most bland design in the game

[frozen lance]

Doesn’t mean he ain’t balanced

[maiden pollen]

hes so silly bro dont say mean things about my boy 😭

[edgy wasp]

nana guard is a joke character and they definitely designed him as such

[frozen lance]

So basically the new characters are getting a lot of attention and balanced well but then the balancing team for other characters is bad

Maybe its 2 different divisions entirely

Like theres marketing, balance, new characters, animation, etc etc

[viscid palm]

i think they reworked characters from beta to a certain version of the game and rn it’s not translating well

like arya for example has no whiff for so long she was basically still in the beta

[frozen lance]

Was Morty originally a support character?

[viscid palm]

he was always a bruiser

[viscid palm]

this would also explain why joker is how he is rn

cause we were pretty sure he was going to be released in the beta

[frozen lance]

Or just Payer First Games

The thing is Idk if its completely intentional keeping Joker this broken

[viscid palm]

it’s just the character

[frozen lance]

Absurd tool kit in general?

[viscid palm]

cards are insane for their CD

[frozen lance]

Ah

[viscid palm]

his uptilt/upair are huge

his jab is insane as well

idk a lot of stuff would be fixed by simply adding whiff frames on attacks tbh

a lot of stuff is unpunishable

especially kill confirms

[frozen lance]

Yeah

It gives off fast paced beta vibes

[viscid palm]

imo shaggy shouldn’t whiff a jab that can kill half the cast between 60-100% and have enough time to dodge whatever followup

jabs rn are really strong

[frozen lance]

Jab meta

[winged atlas]

I know, sadly it is

[cursive wharf]

guys

plz watch this get attention to devs cuz wtf? #clips message

[viscid palm]

the upair isn’t active for the entirety of the animation unfortunately

the beginning of upair just doesn’t have a hitbox

[edgy wasp]

please rework morty pfg

please rework morty i will beg

[viscid palm]

he has one of the best dodges in the game

[fallow yarrow]

That’s what I’m saying

Thank god he has a far dodge

Or else he would have no movement

[edgy wasp]

his dodge is a large part of the reason why hes so strong but thats a story for another day

[edgy wasp]

descriptions included and everything 😭

[ancient mirage]

Oh nah

[edgy wasp]

the pink urgonomic office chair really ties it together

[olive dawn]

I picked a chair with wheels to make it harder to back out

[ancient mirage]

I thought it was just a prank

[olive dawn]

I mean. I found it funny

THO ITS NOT A PRANK FOR YOU PLUMBUS LEDGE ABUSERS.

[frozen lance]

I just want to play this character in peace man

[drifting plume]

Same, even if he's annoying I don't think anyone deserves being hated for that

[frozen lance]

Btw there was a whole discussion to keep this out of Garnet’s character section, but now they’ve brought this to us

If any new Garnet tech that makes the character absurd releases, I know what I’m doing personally

[drifting plume]

Tbh It's pretty useless talking in this server, any other character specific server or grindcore have better people, is just sad people really wasting so many energy and hours hating on this server

[frozen lance]

<@&882349260409032746>

[mighty forum]

did you click on it

[drifting plume]

I did

[frozen lance]

It is literally an amazon link to a rope

[mighty forum]

what was it, i recommend changing your password just incase

[drifting plume]

K k thank you for the recommendation

[frozen lance]

Ty

[lament yoke]

Are you guys ok

[viscid palm]

no 😔

we all need help

[lament yoke]

Well I’m a garnet main and I was like that’s crazy

[viscid palm]

wait what?

[lament yoke]

With the whole rope and chair thing

[wooden sorrel]

Bro this is the oldest trap I ever seen 😭🙏

[fallow yarrow]

We can probably ban fel

Right?

He supported the idea to put rope and chair

I can’t believe the most peaceful character has the most toxic community

💀

[maiden pollen]

thats kinda based

[drifting plume]

I actually didn't saw that, let me call a <@&882349260409032746> sorry to ping this late but earlier we had someone putting a rope and a chair link here, he asked in the #1245143274260402222 if he sould do it, user @ imfel encourage it saying that he should do it even if he gets banned, pretty heavy if you ask me, even if he didn't directly post the link he told the other to do it

[fallow yarrow]

Hey, I also want to report some harassment from a user named Fel. He’s been here for about five days and has been really toxic, especially towards those of us who main Morty. He constantly insults us, saying we’re trash for playing Morty, and it feels like he’s targeting me and other Morty mains specifically. This is making the environment pretty unpleasant.
Could you please look into this? Thanks.

<@&882349260409032746>

Sorry for the ping again but this situation is getting too far

[maiden pollen]

bro really geting the ops involved 😭

[fallow yarrow]

Obv that’s what he deserves

[steep turtle]

Bro got him banned

Cannot handle a bit of hate

[fallow yarrow]

A bit of hate?

Homie said put a chair and rope

[steep turtle]

I didn't see that part

Where is it

Cause I scrolled back and can't see it

[fallow yarrow]

.

Read this

[steep turtle]

So wait...

[fallow yarrow]

Yea

Also in the garnet channel

He literally said do it

[steep turtle]

You got him banned

[fallow yarrow]

He encouraged it?

[steep turtle]

Because he was saying he was going to commit self death

[fallow yarrow]

No

I don’t think you know what happend

He came into the Morty chat

And linked to us a chair and rope

To say ky s

To us

#1245143274260402222 message @steep turtle

He said “I HAVE AN IDEA. AMAZON LINKS TO A ROPE AND CHAIR IN THE MORTY CHAT IMMEDIATELY”

And fel said do it

You will get banned 100% but do it

It’s an earned ban

[steep turtle]

I just don't even know what to say

All of this is just childish on both sides

[dreamy hornet]

Acting like he handed you a gun 😭🙏

It was a edgy joke, ain't that deep

[fallow yarrow]

Edgy joke?

[steep turtle]

He wasn't even the one who posted it

[plush owl]

Both sides?

[steep turtle]

Holy

[fallow yarrow]

He encouraged it

😭 he literally said do it

He was asking if he should do it

And look at that he said do it

There’s no way y’all are defending him rn

[dreamy hornet]

No one's "defending" him, I'm just saying you're blowing it way out of portion

Y'all are dragging it 😭
https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/s/Z7v2k9E7gI

[fallow yarrow]

It was deserved

I can’t say less

[steep turtle]

You wanted him banned for so much less

That's why I'm saying it's childish on both sides

[fallow yarrow]

Oh my god bro what do y’all want with me

He also had a lot of toxic backstory here

Not the guy who posted the chair and rope

[maiden pollen]

man he was kinda based though

[dreamy hornet]

Have a bit thicker skin 😭🙏
It was a out of touch | edgy joke, he wasn't actively forcing people to kill themselves ☠️

Fair enough to get banned, it's not that serious though

[fallow yarrow]

He came 5 days hating on us

If u don’t know the story don’t talk here

Please

[dreamy hornet]

It's a official discord mate, you don't own the channel ☠️

[steep turtle]

He was complaining about the character and asking for reworks

[fallow yarrow]

Nope

[dreamy hornet]

I'm working over the context you've out out there

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/s/u4D8Z3Q5mD

[fallow yarrow]

Nope not how it went

[steep turtle]

Bro I read everythiing

It's not that deep

[plush owl]

He assisted. Stop defending this.

[fallow yarrow]

People are just defending his actions

I can’t

[fallow yarrow]

What does that have to do with what I said

[steep turtle]

It's not like he came into the chat guns a blazin saying yall should do it

[dreamy hornet]

Because it was a joke, a out of touch edgy joke, you're acting like it's this horrific unforgivable action 😭🙏

[fallow yarrow]

And if he said that then he shouldn’t have been hating to tell us that

[steep turtle]

People get salty

It happens

[maiden pollen]

skibidi multiversus slicers

[dreamy hornet]

Real

[fallow yarrow]

You don’t stay here and be salty for 5 days straight

[plush owl]

You're acting like I've said more than like two words here. Maybe you should take your own advice. Now, please stop dragging this out.

[dreamy hornet]

"Please stop dragging this out."
My brother in christ, I've just got here, he's making this a whole giant community thing, ain't one gaf but him 🤯
https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/s/LyQ3ilSjUB

[fallow yarrow]

You’ve posted this link 3 times straight

And yes you are dragging this out

It happend

You don’t need to come in here and talk

[maiden pollen]

talks

[plush owl]

<@&882349260409032746>

[fallow yarrow]

Don’t talk here man

This is full of toxicity

[dreamy hornet]

How dare a man provide context, should be hanged at the stake for this 😔
I'm just saying it was a edgy joke not a big giant world shattering thing 😭🙏

[steep turtle]

You kinda can

[fallow yarrow]

I can’t stand how some people are defending him

[steep turtle]

Look

What he did was stupid

But a perma ban sounds even dumber

[maiden pollen]

this discord sh serious forreal 😔

[fallow yarrow]

Lmao

It’s what he gets

You can’t really justify him

[dreamy hornet]

Right, this is the type of stuff you get a slap on the wrist for? ☠️

[fallow yarrow]

And you shouldn’t

Now please stop

[dreamy hornet]

Dawg, you've made this a whole thing by complaining on other forums about it instead of just moving on, you can't pull the "Stop talking about it!" card here 💀

[fallow yarrow]

You keep talking like this

Your defending him

Not directly

But the way you are talking u are

[dreamy hornet]

I'm saying it was a edgy joke that you're taking way to seriously

[fallow yarrow]

Your the one taking it Way to seriously

It was worth a ban

[dreamy hornet]

🪞

[fallow yarrow]

🪞

[maiden pollen]

bro really pulled up the mirror emoji thats crazy

W tbh

[fallow yarrow]

Real

[finite ore]

If we banned them is because WE deemed it ban worthy, arguing over who's fault is it is useless, bans and infractions are all up to the mod team's judgement and no one else

[fallow yarrow]

Thank you so much mod 😭🙏 I can’t talk to these guys I swear

[steep turtle]

And we can still argue about it, a role doesn't make you a higher class of person

[fallow yarrow]

💀

[plush owl]

Lol

[fallow yarrow]

Nah we catched targets behind our head

[plush owl]

I'm used to it

[dreamy hornet]

Tbf they had a ban coming, there was no way they were ever getting off with that, but it was still just a joke, going around posting on Reddit about a unrelated argurement is just a childish move ☠️

[fallow yarrow]

It’s crazy how you have come here so defensive for a ban that wasent yours and didn’t have anything to do with you

Like?

What do you care?

It didn’t have anything to with you

Why are you guys even here

[dreamy hornet]

Mate, I wouldn't gaf if you weren't going around sharing it to other communities, you can't act surprised when people have something to say 😭🙏

[steep turtle]

Because he's just a person

You're acting like he's an irredeemable monster

[fallow yarrow]

WHEN DID I SAY THAT?

I just said it was a deserved ban?

I bet that if I would of gotten banned you wouldn’t even care cus I’m not part of the garnet main chat

Please stop 😭

I don’t want this whole chat be about him

[dreamy hornet]

I've never touched the Garnet chat, and I never will, I don’t even know these people, this is just a bit werd mate ☠️

[dreamy hornet]

Then don't go around posting about it?

Common Sense

[fallow yarrow]

I posted it on my Reddit?

[finite ore]

It makes me the one who says what people can or can't do actually, yes

[dreamy hornet]

You posted it on the Official Multiversus Reddit

[fallow yarrow]

So what?

I can’t share something I want

What is this

[steep turtle]

So does he have a perma ban?

[dreamy hornet]

So you can't act surprised when people talk about it, blowing it out of the water 😭🙏

[finite ore]

And now enough of this, if they ever want to come back they'll be able to appeal and again it's going to be up to us to decide if to unban them or not

[fallow yarrow]

Okay I get it

But please dude stop

I don’t wanna hear about this anymore

[dreamy hornet]

Then you shouldn't have posted it in the first place, delete it and then move on like a normal person💀

[finite ore]

Now kindly everyone drop the topic

[fallow yarrow]

Man you can’t tell me what to do

?

[fallow yarrow]

I would like to do so

Someone would just not move from it tho

[dreamy hornet]

I genuinely inspire to do this many mental gymnastics, people aren't going to stop talking about if you leave posts up with "Discussion" about it 😭🙏

[fallow yarrow]

I can do anything I want

You can’t just get me out of the internet

I have my own things to do

And if I want to share it I will

[plush owl]

Just stop replying, Nibi. Mods will take care of this.

[dreamy hornet]

Freedom of speech works both ways, you can do anything you want it doesn't leave you immune to backlash ☠️

[fallow yarrow]

Okay

I accept that I didn’t need to post it on Reddit

Now what?

[dreamy hornet]

Delete that shi, like a half functioning human 😭

[fallow yarrow]

No bro 😭

If I want to share it I will

You can complain every time that you want

But I won’t take it down

[dreamy hornet]

Then obviously people are going to keep talking about it? ☠️

[fallow yarrow]

Yup

I’m moving on

[dreamy hornet]

No you're not 😭🙏

[fallow yarrow]

Everything that needed saying is is done

I’m done with this convo

Peace out

[dreamy hornet]

Having a power trip over a reddit post is a bit pathetic mate ☠️

If you want people to drop it, you have to own up to you're side of it and move on, can't expect people to do something you're not willing to do yourself 😭🙏

[maiden pollen]

actual yapfest

[fallow yarrow]

True

Glad I’ve moved on

[dreamy hornet]

Mate, leaving it up on other forms and attacking people in the comment sections isn't "moving on" 😭🙏

[viscid palm]

lmao just stfu and move on no point being an a hole @ancient spire and no point putting time and energy into people that don’t deserve it @fallow yarrow

[fallow yarrow]

That’s why I ain’t responding lmao everything that I needed to say was said

[viscid palm]

weird

word+

[maiden pollen]

hey chat what does @winged atlas thjink about this

[winged atlas]

Insane

[maiden pollen]

pristine take my leige 👑

[dreamy hornet]

Mate, I couldn't care less about allat, just think it's a bit werid being this obsessed over a Discord argument ☠️

[winged atlas]

They should rework Morty after this

[fallow yarrow]

TRUEEEE

[maiden pollen]

so real !

[steep turtle]

This is truly the right takeaway from this

[fallow yarrow]

I absolutely agree

[dreamy hornet]

I can get behind this one

[fallow yarrow]

Rework Morty

[steep turtle]

Also that edgy humor just...

Doesn't fit into this landscape anymore

And I get that

Fel and Zypten were being bozos

[fallow yarrow]

I don’t wanna start this convo up again

And neither does the mod

[dreamy hornet]

Feel like this is kinda on you for leaving that shi up, told you this would happen 😭🙏

[viscid palm]

you’ve been obsessing over it 😭😂😂

[steep turtle]

They're gonna appeal possibly

We'll see what happens

No use crying over spilled milk, just need to wait it out and see now

Anyways Morty reworks

Anyone got any ideas

[fallow yarrow]

Maybe nerf dirt so it dosent do weaken

[steep turtle]

Big pogs

[viscid palm]

make him beta morty

[fallow yarrow]

Speed up jab so it dosent actually lose to every jab

[steep turtle]

No

[fallow yarrow]

REAL

[maiden pollen]

beta morty 🐐

[steep turtle]

Beta morty was awful to fight against too

[fallow yarrow]

Beta Morty couldn’t dirt into up air

[plush owl]

Nerf Grenade KB. Way too high.

[steep turtle]

But he could fair into dair infinitely

[fallow yarrow]

What’s fair

I’m dumb

[dreamy hornet]

Fix this damage animation

[viscid palm]

no he couldn’t lmao

[steep turtle]

Forward air

[viscid palm]

they fixed that

[dreamy hornet]

Keeps spazzing out anytime you hit him

[viscid palm]

and with auto tech that’s a moot point

[steep turtle]

In the last patch? Where Superman was brokener?

Beta is just nothing to take from except from a few fringe cases

[viscid palm]

it was way before that

[fallow yarrow]

I mean they should make him like beta Morty

Just keep fixing things

Morty has 50 bugs

[steep turtle]

No, that still worked last patch I know I fought it constantly

[viscid palm]

i’m mostly talking about made physics and the rewind changes that they removed

[viscid palm]

nope

it wasn’t true

[fallow yarrow]

I NEED MY OLD REWIND BACK

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CAMPING ME

[steep turtle]

Except against large characters

Which is what I mostly played

[viscid palm]

nah if you help up and out you wouldn’t get looped

[fallow yarrow]

That isn’t so a Morty issue I think

[steep turtle]

Yes it is 💀

[fallow yarrow]

How so?

It’s the character hit box that’s big

[viscid palm]

anyways

[fallow yarrow]

Not morty

[steep turtle]

Hitboxes in the game are just way too big for heavies to have such an insane hurtbox too

[fallow yarrow]

That seems to be more of an hitstun issue

And hurtboxes

[viscid palm]

nades need to lose KB, and at least trade with normal projectiles instead of being deleted

jab needs a hurtbox reduction on his jab

[fallow yarrow]

I need that little projectile in beta morty back

I miss it so much

[steep turtle]

Little projectile?

[plush owl]

ive lost far too many nades today. they just disappear constantly.

[viscid palm]

i’d argue that would be fair with auto tech and considering morty is a mage now

[fallow yarrow]

When you shot a granades it would of flung a little projectile

[steep turtle]

Oh the gun bullet after bouncing off a nade

No

[fallow yarrow]

Yea

[steep turtle]

Keep that away

[fallow yarrow]

😭

[steep turtle]

That is just unfun to fight

He's already unfun to fight

[fallow yarrow]

But you couldn’t even aim it

😭

[viscid palm]

yea you could

[steep turtle]

It's still just another projectile bouncing around

[viscid palm]

it was busted

[fallow yarrow]

You could?

I was doing it wrong

[steep turtle]

I mean hell

[fallow yarrow]

I didn’t take advantage of it being aimed

[viscid palm]

yea it went linear to where you were in relation to the base

[steep turtle]

Yesterday

[viscid palm]

nade

i had crazy shots with it

[steep turtle]

I got hit with a nade that bounced off an invisible wall

[fallow yarrow]

Ohh

I did that

[fallow yarrow]

Yea don’t play with a Morty close to the wall

[viscid palm]

he needs it lollll

[steep turtle]

INVISIBLE

[fallow yarrow]

Even if it’s invisible

I’d just stay on stage

😭

Morty close to walls is deadly

[steep turtle]

I WAS

[fallow yarrow]

How did that happen 😭

[steep turtle]

#clips message

I clipped it

[plush owl]

I wish nades were more mobile. The things just drop in front of you, and you can only hit them like, 2 feet away horizontally.

[fallow yarrow]

That wasent an invisible wall?

[steep turtle]

He didn't hit it

[viscid palm]

i’d like them to give all nades base grenade weight tbh

[fallow yarrow]

It just seems like the granade switched directions

[steep turtle]

HOW THO

[fallow yarrow]

Morty glitch

[viscid palm]

did it bounce off the corner of the stage

that’s been happening a lot

[fallow yarrow]

Collides with the floor to hard

[steep turtle]

It's bs

[fallow yarrow]

It is

I need my bugs fixed

[viscid palm]

tbf you can literally see it coming back lol

[plush owl]

It's unknown if that's a bug, or intentional. Looks goofy tho

[viscid palm]

it’s a weird interaction

[plush owl]

Exactly.

[viscid palm]

i like when it happens to my nades tho

[steep turtle]

Yea right when it's about to explode

[viscid palm]

puts a smile on my face

[steep turtle]

Makes me want the character deleted

[viscid palm]

lol dodge it

[plush owl]

makes me

Because I've never seen it in game

Looks goofy tho

[steep turtle]

I'm playing Jason bro

[viscid palm]

changes nothing lol

you could neutral dodge and avoid it

[steep turtle]

I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A MOVE

[viscid palm]

coaching service is 15/hr bro

want my venmo?

[fallow yarrow]

Yes

[viscid palm]

you can literally see the grenade for damn near the entirety of the clip

[fallow yarrow]

I need coatching 😭

[steep turtle]

Oh yea because I'm going to focus solely on the nade and not on the morty who can snake dirt up air

[viscid palm]

unironically yes

[steep turtle]

Also

It was off screen for the last few seconds

[viscid palm]

he cant snake with the nade out

[fallow yarrow]

True

[steep turtle]

Just a tiny red glow was there

I thought it had gone off stage

It was off my screen

[fallow yarrow]

It’s a bug I wish they would fix

Tbh

[steep turtle]

It goes off screen at 11 seconds

[plush owl]

I make mistakes like that all the time. I rarely review my footage, but when I do, I ALWAYS question how I didn't see half the stuff I failed to evade. 💀

[fallow yarrow]

Same

[cursive wharf]

#clips message

also Day 6 of asking for a sir mortaniel skin

[fallow yarrow]

WWW

[cursive wharf]

sick asf

[fallow yarrow]

Fr

Let’s get sir mortaniel in mvs

[cursive wharf]

Helllll yeah

thats what im sayin my boi

[plush owl]

I support it. Hope it gets in soon. 😌

[fallow yarrow]

Morty needs more skin that isn’t a hat or shirt

[cursive wharf]

they can give him the sceptre or even the sword of helios 😄 Kinda like evil morty and the trident

^

[fallow yarrow]

^^^^^^^

[plush owl]

Nah I want the goat, V-Neck Morty.

That as a variant would go so hard.

[cursive wharf]

👀

[fallow yarrow]

The goat

[plush owl]

Exactly. 😎

[fallow yarrow]

They should just make an evil Morty variant with an eye patch

And it should be green rarity

So 500 glemium

Does that seem fair?

You also get evil Morty lines

[steep turtle]

No

They're not doing that

People would be mad too

[plush owl]

I wish that was a thing, but I understand it probably never will be.

[cursive wharf]

it would be cool if they added chromas to skins kinda like league (different color palates)

[fallow yarrow]

I feel like the price is justified tho?

[plush owl]

Idek how they'd properly price that. It's just a tiny extra accessory... But also new voice lines.

[fallow yarrow]

Shark hat costs 500 i think

And it’s just a hat

[steep turtle]

They ain't gonna give voice lines for 500 gleam

Nor will they just give him an eyepatch

[fallow yarrow]

I’m pretty sure someone like shaggy does have a skin with custom voice lines

Idk tho

I’ve just heard

[cursive wharf]

they could give like mecha morty or president morty different chromas within the skin.

[fallow yarrow]

What’s a chroma

[cursive wharf]

i would pay for chromas

[fallow yarrow]

😭

[cursive wharf]

chromas are special color variations of existing skins that let you further customize the look of your champion in-game

[fallow yarrow]

Ohhhh

I’d pay for that

I ain’t gonna lie

[cursive wharf]

like in league

[fallow yarrow]

It’s like alternate skins colors

I wish it could be free tho

[cursive wharf]

^^ precisely

[fallow yarrow]

Like at the end of the day

It’s still just a recolor

And I wish it could be free by doing missions