Marvin The Martian

[broken pewter]

Give it a couple patches and Marvin is gonna be top 5

[queen swallow]

copium

[broken pewter]

[queen swallow]

im always on that copium

[hallow wasp]

top 1 in our hearts

[broken pewter]

The world will see

Marvin is just simply that guy

[hallow wasp]

damm just lost my second marvin match ever against joker

that genuinely sucked i had a 10-streak and 22 wins

1s btw

[hallow wasp]

up air up special

im dead

just cannot contest with that f-air

[broken pewter]

Joker a tough matchup that i still have to learn myself, I have noticed a lot of joker’s neutral moves keeps him stuck in a position so you’re able to get free side specials if you read them correctly

And with the forward air/air side special all i really could do is try and predict where he’s going and bubble gun him but it’s not guaranteed joker’s definitely a hard matchup

[kind pier]

what are the main moves i should be using to approach?

[broken pewter]

Neutral special, side air, and sometimes air side special

[kind pier]

neutral special is the button press right?

[broken pewter]

Bubble gun

[kind pier]

thats neutral attack

not special

[broken pewter]

Oops my bad 🤦‍♂️

[kind pier]

all g just confused me a lil bit

[broken pewter]

Yeah button should only be used as a combo extender

[kind pier]

i like using it to reverse big projectiles

my duo plays bugs so reversing the safe always confuses people

[broken pewter]

Oh yeah, I was talking about using it while attacking best use of it is definitely flipping projectiles especially in 2s where it’s more chaotic it gives your team a lot of stage pressure

[sour basalt]

this one is true im checking the next one now

though if they use DI then you have to dash and bubble

this is not true DI messes it up

when making combos you want to set the bot to dodge away on hitstun and itll use DI to escape your combos

[outer tide]

it is

[sour basalt]

try doing the second combo with dodge away on hitstun on

@outer tide

[outer tide]

I really want the discord sever to allow us to post videos and images

[sour basalt]

i love my boy marvin but he REALLY isnt good

[pallid oasis]

honestly marvin tnj and rick

feel so fun rn

[queen swallow]

as ive said its hard to disagree when your efforts are better spent almost anywhere else

[sour basalt]

yeah lmao

[pallid oasis]

yea honestly

he could be so much more

with a few buffs

[sour basalt]

gonn take a break with marvin

is what a LOSER would think

and I am NOT a loser

I am an ADDICT

all jokes aside though marvin is practically unplayable if you opponent knows how you work

[tidal fox]

fr fr

Black Adam is just a box of suprises

that can eleminate you in mater of secs

[sour basalt]

banana guard is impossible to fight holy

cant win condition if he dodges every attack and predicts every move

[queen swallow]

gizmo is almost unwinnable

what do we do anout that umbrella

[sour basalt]

does down attack work? I havent tried that yet

[queen swallow]

yeah but you have to be grounded of above him and gizmo is small and slippery

[sour basalt]

free my boy marvin

rn his counters are: good players, wonder woman, gizmo, and banana guard

just went against a good joker and i couldnt go NEAR him

im just gonna keep playing marvin

[spare geyser]

We just have to keep going no Matter what

[sour basalt]

We cannot stop

[spare geyser]

I'm praying for Steven's downfall after the game launched he's broken

[broken pewter]

^

[real carbon]

Chat I’m new to the marvel fandom and was a Batman and Harley fanatic what perks are good and what should I expect from this technical heavy character

[karmic osprey]

tons of projectiles and break the spaceship? probably have the anit projectile perk against marvin but u cant really pick perks like that

[fringe trout]

The spaceship has like half its previous health since so many attacks do nearly double damage compared to before. Banana Guard can one-shot it.
On top of that, the missile takes even longer to fire 😭

[real carbon]

The Marvin fandom seems like it’s in shambles 😭😭

[broken pewter]

Marvin on top

[real carbon]

He’s got that sh*t on fr

[sour basalt]

feels like for every extreme marvin loss the game gives me the most TRASH player ever

[sour basalt]

nuh uh

i definitely dont cry for 10 minutes after dying to another marvin

or mainly wonder woman 😭

[broken pewter]

The joy that fills me after a beating a WW is something that can’t be described

[sour basalt]

im feeling more pain than joy

[broken pewter]

Im slowly starting to enjoy the matchup ngl

[sour basalt]

i need someone to look at my gameplay or something

i went from stomping +1k win people to losing to +100

WHY GAME

WHY PUT ME AGAINST THE 2k WIN FINN

and he dced

[sour basalt]

god WHY did they have to make such a fun character so bad

marvin in 1s is torture

[broken pewter]

It’s a fun torture

[brave remnant]

How to masochist

[fringe trout]

Torture 😭

• Flag is smaller (characters are bigger)
• Rifle bounces off platforms
• Spaceship is weaker (attacks are stronger)
• Spaceship takes longer to fire
• Pistols cannot be held
• Bubbled projectiles speed up (for better or for worse, controls the screen for less time)
• Headbutt no longer easily combos
• What on earth is that dash attack

But hey, we get

• Bigger blaster bullets
• Longer blaster bullet life
• Two reverses

[broken pewter]

as long as I get to play Marvin idc what they do Ima still make him work

[queen swallow]

at least we got a winning mu into lebron

[broken pewter]

Only problem I never ran into a lebron 😔

[queen swallow]

ive ran into 2

and my marvin is level 14

😭

[broken pewter]

I only get WW, BA, and Jason’s with the occasional BG

[onyx sail]

I wish i would face a marvin for once

[placid minnow]

I got one today but got desynced

[edgy ocean]

I change my mind abt supes. All the new dc stuff is superman is just a robotic man with no emotion. But after watching the old stuff superman is literally the face of superheross. Sucks they made him like that(new supes). Despite all the hate he chose to love

Superman built different

[broken pewter]

Marvin has so much aura that, it can only be contained in a few Marvin’s if their was to many Marvin players his aura would be to much for this world

[edgy ocean]

Marvin's are spreading.

[broken pewter]

Marvin my glorious king

[pseudo tide]

we shall claim the meta in the name of mars

[edgy ocean]

Mahh i dont want him getting nerf

[queen swallow]

@edgy ocean dont worry he should absolutely be safe from that

[placid minnow]

I really don’t know what to do against a WW as Marvin lmao

If she even has any shred of game knowledge it’s gg

[fading coral]

i’m a new marvin main 🫡

[broken pewter]

Best you can do is down tilt as much as possible if she’s opening with armor a lot and be ready to bubble her lasso, if you’re off stage stall for as long as possible then ship to bait her to use her options so you’re able to get back on stage besides that just hope she’s bad at the game

[broken pewter]

Hugest W

[fading coral]

yeah went from arya to marvin

[broken pewter]

Yoo twins I did the same

[placid minnow]

I try almost all these things but like a decent Wonder Woman has 50 options to get around it all

[broken pewter]

That’s just kinda the life of playing Marvin into WW

It’s unfortunate but if you’re not outplaying her 100% of the time it’s just kinda a L

[queen swallow]

why does bugs bat do more damage than a missle

[broken pewter]

Bugs has then strong arms

Missile was designed for earth

[queen swallow]

Jab down special is so good man

[broken pewter]

Flag is my goat

[queen swallow]

I love when my “tracking” projectiles do hula hoops around the opponent

anyone else get a bug where projectiles just go through people sometimes?

Idk if this is just a marvin thing

but ive had my jab3 and bubble go through people multiple times

[broken pewter]

If they previously dodged the projectile it just makes them immune to it even if it would hit them again

[queen swallow]

is that intentional?

[terse dock]

Probably not

[sour basalt]

Thats what ruins my mood most games

Hard to use the switch ability when a bug makes it practically useless

[flat torrent]

most satisfying character when ur moves work as intended

marvin could rlly benefit from some qol changes like a cd perk or getting an actual combo game

[fading coral]

anyone know some good combos for marvin?

[sour beacon]

which marvin skin would u guys cop

[fading coral]

is there a discord server for marvin?

[sour beacon]

yea

[sour beacon]

DM this guy

[fading coral]

can you send me the invite please

just did

thanks

[flat torrent]

martian commander

[dense frigate]

Ive never fought a marvin that doesn't just run laps on the stage circle camping and never engaging

4 minute match character

[silver sable]

Idk how ppl circle camp with Marvin when he’s so fun to play aggressively

[edgy ocean]

What? Marvin is a aggressive acharacter

Thats why he is labeled as an assasin

Jake is too much fun for me. Might quit marvin for a while

[lost sand]

Heyo! Marvin main here! I started out slightly less than a week ago and I'm having a blast with the martian.

Nice to meet you all Marviners!

[kind pier]

Marving

Martin the marshing

[silver sable]

Marving the Martian

[placid minnow]

He benefits most from being aggressive but if the opponent is playing super careful you have to match it or you’re just going to lose

[queen swallow]

you full screen you put stuff up then you hold forward

[scenic carbon]

Just bought Marvin and am starting the labbing
Button is awesome, can't wait to try out some of this stuff in game

[sour basalt]

marshin the marving

[broken pewter]

The marshin marving

[sour basalt]

El extranjera earvin 🇪🇸

[brave remnant]

Marvin bubble pistol is goated

[broken pewter]

Bubble blaster saves life’s

[queen swallow]

they should make the bubble bigger so I can get my kill confirm consistently:)

[agile ermine]

Yeah, especially in singles. You can be aggressive all you want, but if the opponent starts getting patient, you have to start playing neutral against them.

This is also why I love Marvin. He's fun, a little challenging, very rewarding for hardwork, and the wins just feel soooooooo good with him

people are starting to recognize that Marvin is decent too, but just needs more representation, a buff for another kill option, and some bug fixes to make his projectiles not pass through opponents.

[agile ermine]

also yeah i agree

I think bubble, big or small, has been really helpful in catching people off guard in a lot of situations and messing up their flow

[sour basalt]

i feel like after the nerfs of the big characters hes gonna be a top tier

[agile ermine]

it really helps against fast characters like harley, arya

Top tier is a very generous, but I love the confidence

and it's def possible

he's like a 'Olimar' or 'Rosalina' character where they are good, but just needs the right person to play them

we gonna make this character work

[shy jolt]

hi, so uhh question. have been thinking about using marvin but am unsure. whats his playstyle? does he do well in the meta? is the projectile perk killing him 😭

[sour basalt]

playstyle either super aggressive or passive depending on the opponent (ww you go passive and jason you go aggressive) in meta he is DOG im sorry but he doesnt hold up as much as others. the projectile perk is great

[agile ermine]

Marvin is kind of a knowledge check for a lot of people. Not many Marvin players out there. He is not the most straight-forward character, and he does have to work a little to keep up against fast characters, but by no means is he "bad".

oh but yea META-wise, he's not there

[sour basalt]

meta wise he isnt there at all

but if they nerf the big guys

hes up there

[agile ermine]

but he is insanely fun

[shy jolt]

can he do well competitively? might be a stupid question as it kind of ties to the whole meta thing

[shy jolt]

from this i can assume hes a high skill character?

[agile ermine]

So there was a Marvin who got top 16 in a big online event recently. I forgot which one. It is possible to do it with him, but not easy

[agile ermine]

mid - high. Mainly because he's not straight-forward at all. You can pick up Banana Gaurd, Harley, WW, batman, etc.. in one game. Marvin is going to take a multiple games to get used to

he's pretty good in 2's

in's 1's it will be a little hard

his biggest issue is that he doesnt have the easiest kill options

you have to almost always do a setup to kill someone

[shy jolt]

im a jason main so it might be a skill check for me 😭

[agile ermine]

it might take a moment for you then, but it will click very soon if you do

if you are looking to have fun, buy marvin

[sour basalt]

if you do get marvin though EXPECT to lose

[agile ermine]

if you are looking for quick wins and immediate success, but someone else

[sour basalt]

but you will have fun

and you will get better

and you will win

[agile ermine]

it feel so good to win with this character

[sour basalt]

but it feels so bad to lose too because of how much effort you put in compared to your opponent

playing marvin is like gambling

[queen swallow]

Yeah idk about top tier after top tier nerfs maybe low high tier

rn he is at sub 50% wr and he is a knowledge check so he would also need some help on top of that to happen

and the all the top tiers have consistent combo game and kill power

and he doesnt

[agile ermine]

this too^

[queen swallow]

the earliest I kill is like 80% and thats on a blue moon when I hit a high opponent with a sniped up air

The up air top tiers ladder into kills almost consistently at 60-100

charged up air at that

[agile ermine]

yeah charged is what gets the early kill

[sour basalt]

actually earliest kill is like 30

but thats with air walker

and thats also once every solar eclipse

[agile ermine]

only other types of early kill is a spike with Down Special, or you get a good sair off the side of the stage

[sour basalt]

DI really messes up his combo game

he cant hit many combos if the opponent knows they can move their joystick right

[queen swallow]

Also maybe I was lying the earliest kill is like up tilt flag spikes or jab3 spikes

thats even rarer

[agile ermine]

Oh i love jab3 spikes

they so funny

they work so well in Dubs because no one expects it to spike

[queen swallow]

marvin is just better in dubs

[sour basalt]

i play marvin in 1s

thats where all of my opinions on him comes from

[queen swallow]

I as well

even in 2s the highest I can see him is low A tier

[agile ermine]

I play him in both, but talking about him in context of 1's is overall better for him imo

just makes more sense for everythng

[queen swallow]

especially 1s?

[agile ermine]

2's is different because you can just work well with anyone who can ladder

[queen swallow]

Yeah marvin is good at covering his teammates options with slow projectiles

and his lack of a combo game doesnt matter in a 4 man setting

[agile ermine]

sniping them from far away as an assist is like the best feeling

[queen swallow]

and his lack of kill power also with a good comp

[agile ermine]

yeah, as long as you support your teammate most games will workout

[queen swallow]

Marvin IG was really strong

Marvin WW is really good

Marvin BG is really good

[sour basalt]

any mage + IG is crazy

[queen swallow]

But even all those comps are better with a Steven or Bugs instead

or Gizmo

[agile ermine]

I do a lot of Marvin/Steven, and I love it when we get a shield placed at jump-height. I just constantly bouce them off it with Up-attack and they take like 60+ damage

[sour basalt]

none of my boys kept playing this game after release so i havent been playing twos much

[placid minnow]

Big agree

I’ve been saying he’s around top of B for a while

[sour basalt]

honestly if they buff 1s marvin it would be fine for 2s

i think its enough that they allowed banana guard to exist

[agile ermine]

Don't you just love BG Side special

And how it beat ALL of our options lmaooo

[placid minnow]

Denies every option Marvin has

[sour basalt]

almost lost to someone spamming that

[placid minnow]

Lol exactly

[sour basalt]

felt so good to beat him

[agile ermine]

At worst it trades with helmet

Best*

[sour basalt]

it does?

[placid minnow]

But that’s still a loss

[agile ermine]

Yeah

[placid minnow]

Cause BG does cracked damage

[agile ermine]

Because helmet doesn't kill

[sour basalt]

yeah you dont wanna trade damage with BG

[agile ermine]

But BG side special does

[placid minnow]

Helmet can kill

Just depends where you are

And obv percentage

[sour basalt]

whenever i face BG i just hope and pray that he doesnt know what the flag does

[agile ermine]

Well yes, but in the context of trading eith BG Side special

No

[sour basalt]

lost to a banana guard who put up a badge of marvin with 900 wins

[placid minnow]

I think I’m only at a little over 100 rn

[agile ermine]

It becomes a neutral game, and just jumping over the move to down special him in air to punish

[placid minnow]

But I started playing him like midway through week 1 main release

[sour basalt]

same but i spent alot of time in the training looking for combos

so im only at about 60 wins

[agile ermine]

I'm over 100 rn

[scenic carbon]

Does our grounded down attack beat BG side special?

[placid minnow]

If bg side specials constantly without thinking dair is useful until he realizes and just up special or up strongs

[sour basalt]

yes

but BARELY

[placid minnow]

Yeah

[scenic carbon]

hm so just very precise timing

would rather dodge through it

[placid minnow]

Beats most things

But strict hurt box

[agile ermine]

Yes but sometimes it trades and doesn't feel good

[placid minnow]

Trading on Marvin is always a loss on your end

[sour basalt]

hurt box on that attack should end as soon as he starts slowing down

[placid minnow]

Unless it’s like their jab for your rocket

[agile ermine]

This, not 5 minutes after he stops 😭

[sour basalt]

one of the things keeping me from playing anyone but marvin is that there is really no other character with the same juggling potential

[scenic carbon]

Are bubble pillars true?

[sour basalt]

based on DI

most of the time kinda

[scenic carbon]

seems like it sends either behind you with DI in or straight up with DI out

[placid minnow]

I had Mirrorman play Marvin and he struggled bad against a bugs instantly, he even acknowledged that it’s a bad matchup now that pie doesn’t get bubbled

[sour basalt]

yeah its like a 50/50 idk how to do it consistently

[sour basalt]

you had mirroman play marvin?

[placid minnow]

Yeah

[sour basalt]

is it just me or is the steven matchup really annoying

and gizmo with that stupid umbrella

[placid minnow]

I’ve ran into maybe one Steven and he gave up

[sour basalt]

thats what most of my matches have been

[placid minnow]

Had a ton of people give up and SD the last few days

[sour basalt]

either landslide and they jump off twice or I get jumped and they know all my moves

at a steady 50% wr

[placid minnow]

It’s that Marvin affect

[sour basalt]

fr

marvin v marvin is also stupid

most of the time its just running and spamming projectiles'

[placid minnow]

You either apply insane pressure and wipe them or they get even a tiny bit of advantage and they wipe you

[queen swallow]

Helmet hitbox is weird

Its not great

good air stall and combo move

cant approach with it at all

[sour basalt]

more people need to understand that air walker is the best marvin perk

[queen swallow]

Um idkk

[placid minnow]

I don’t like Airwalker

[sour basalt]

the amount of times that air walk down attack has saved my life is insane

[placid minnow]

Not cause it’s not great but it’s boring imo

[sour basalt]

i just like combos

something this character has none of 😭

[placid minnow]

Let’s you do stuff you shouldn’t be able to

[queen swallow]

Air walker is good for fake reaction/reads in combos

[sour basalt]

air walker has been really good for reads for marvin yes

[queen swallow]

but besides that you cant really do much

[placid minnow]

I don’t wanna learn combos relying on it and when it’s inevitably changed have to relearn everything

[sour basalt]

funny is jab 2 combos into jab 2 and that combos into jab 2

[queen swallow]

and Im a player who uses boost jumps and iads a lot so its not worth to have a perk that also cost 3 dodge bara

[sour basalt]

what perk u guys use for middle

[queen swallow]

collat damage

I yse button and dair a lot

use*

[sour basalt]

collat for loops prolly right

[sour basalt]

ye

[queen swallow]

yeah

[placid minnow]

Yup

[sour basalt]

ive heard last stand sometimes too

[agile ermine]

I understand Airwalker can help get a kill off top, but it feels more situational than Last Stand.

I used last stand

[queen swallow]

Last stand is just insane

[sour basalt]

im a speed force assist hater

[placid minnow]

IAD on Marvin is so nice sometimes

[agile ermine]

Weakness is insanely broken

[placid minnow]

I wanna find some creative stuff for it

[agile ermine]

And Imo Marvin NEEDs Laststand

[queen swallow]

only problem is marvin is like 3 feathers heavy

[sour basalt]

new buff every martian attack applies weakness (stackable)

[placid minnow]

You guys all use Space Invader right

[queen swallow]

yea

[placid minnow]

Good

[sour basalt]

martians size is REALLY funny against bugs bunny

[agile ermine]

Top 1

[sour basalt]

you can crouch under almost every attack he has

[agile ermine]

LOL

[placid minnow]

Ok then get out of Nair loop

Against a good bugs

[sour basalt]

crouch 😄

[agile ermine]

I tested the others and they just didn't feel good in 1's or 2's

[sour basalt]

space invader is my goat

[placid minnow]

I don’t think you know what bugs nair loop is

[sour basalt]

down air, nair, nair, down air, nair

[placid minnow]

That’s his ground one

[queen swallow]

Down air is optional

Its more just

nair nair nair nair nair nair

up air

[placid minnow]

He can just nair you until your high enough then up air

Yup

[sour basalt]

i was a bugs main in the beta

[agile ermine]

Bugs that can IAD make the MU insanely more harder for us

[placid minnow]

The parry timing is so tight

[queen swallow]

In beta bugs used down air in loops

but he doesnt really need to anymore

[placid minnow]

Bugs MU against Marvin is like 70/30

[sour basalt]

who else stands above bugs holes and waits for them to come out for a down attack

[placid minnow]

Not the worst in the game but it’s a losing MU

[placid minnow]

Against a bad bugs yeah

A good bugs isn’t using hole for damage

[queen swallow]

All we have is disintegrating pistol

for safe

[dense frigate]

i use bugs hole to be annoying

[sour basalt]

crouch

im not kidding it works

except if you are above or below

then die

[queen swallow]

down tilting it and just removing it is better imo

[agile ermine]

Imma test it later

[placid minnow]

Imagine if bubble could grab like any of bugs projectiles cause currently I think it’s literally only sandwich

[dense frigate]

safe and rocket i never use for their intended purpose. Those are my ultimates i use when im losing and need a kill instantly

[sour basalt]

marvin crouching is the equivalent of a gnat on the floor

[placid minnow]

Marvin has the best TBag on the game that’s his best use of crouching

[sour basalt]

nah marvin crawl is better

[queen swallow]

crouching dash dance on top

[placid minnow]

Instead of timing the crouch shouldn’t you just parry or dodge

[queen swallow]

or disintegrate it

[placid minnow]

Yeah that’s just for safe

[queen swallow]

and rocket too

and heart

and pie

[placid minnow]

But if bugs is on you and you crouch under something he’ll just hit you with something else cause he’s got very little end lag

[queen swallow]

it literally wipes projectiles

its a better anti projectile than bubble

[sour basalt]

yeah thats usually the problem with crouch tech 😦

[placid minnow]

I mean crouching under his strongs

For his projectiles yeah just destroy them

Also after like many many hours of Marvin I just realized you can aim bubble

[brave remnant]

Lol

[placid minnow]

Like earlier today

[sour basalt]

it doesnt have ANY uses lol

[placid minnow]

No it does

[sour basalt]

really?

whatd you find

[brave remnant]

It absolutely does

[placid minnow]

Aerial

Aim it down

Or aim it up at an angle

[brave remnant]

You have to change the angle depending on dmg and position to keep the same pressure

[placid minnow]

And switch if you have to

[brave remnant]

It's situational

[placid minnow]

Yeah as is the rest of Marvin’s kit

[sour basalt]

oh on dmg

[queen swallow]

Aiming bubble is good

[sour basalt]

ive literally never had a non-niche use for it

[queen swallow]

Down bubble at ledge reverse it

[lost sand]

By aiming up, you can create a little set up I think

[queen swallow]

pop them up into a charged sair

[placid minnow]

I’ve noticed with Marvin I have to adapt more than any other character

[queen swallow]

cover your jumping approach with a down bubble

[sour basalt]

cuz it is either too slow to hit someone aerial or the enemy is too fast to help when they are high damage

[placid minnow]

Think ten steps ahead but adapt to any situation

[queen swallow]

bubble upward and jump behind it

[sour basalt]

OH I JUST THOUGHT OF A WAY TO USE IT

[brave remnant]

This is why I've fallen in love with this characters play

[placid minnow]

He’s not the most technically demanding character but he’s very game sense heavy

[sour basalt]

bubble downwards when they off the side of the stage and reverse to bait them coming up for an easy down air

[brave remnant]

Can also small bubble into large bubble

[queen swallow]

i just said that

[placid minnow]

Yeah

[brave remnant]

So the aim can make that tech

[sour basalt]

oh where

[queen swallow]

lol

[sour basalt]

lmao

[queen swallow]

dair is hard to confirm off that

[placid minnow]

Sometimes I bubble and dodge into it and up normal into it

[queen swallow]

but charged sair is big and nice

[brave remnant]

Yall know the button makes your flag zone grow too right?

[sour basalt]

yeah i figured that out on accident before lmao up air is better tho

[queen swallow]

and if they are already at ledge

[placid minnow]

Yes

[sour basalt]

yee

[placid minnow]

Literally the only thing I think I didn’t realize is aiming bubble cause it’s a weird input

[brave remnant]

And you get tracking even when flag is on cooldown, just hit raw woth dsp

[queen swallow]

small bubble into big bubble is nice just to speed up the projectile if they are far away on a map like scoobys or throne room

[placid minnow]

If you direct hit with cooldown flag it gives tracking yeah

[queen swallow]

THIS IS REALLY GOOD

JAB into flag is amazing

[placid minnow]

Can you jab into flag into up special?

Never tried that

[brave remnant]

I stagger with bubbles if they are tracked when I can

[placid minnow]

Or jump into side special

[queen swallow]

flag pops pretty high so idk

[placid minnow]

Also throwing out your jab finisher to pressure ledge is very nice

[queen swallow]

dodgable but its a nice set up

[brave remnant]

It's not, not an option

[placid minnow]

That’s why we have button

[queen swallow]

and if they do get hit by sair

you can up air while they are tracked

[placid minnow]

Yeah

Rocket tracking kinda sucks sometimes though

[queen swallow]

yeah it does

[placid minnow]

Mega inconsistent

[queen swallow]

hula hoops around the enemy

[sour basalt]

every projectile does that

the hula hoops

[placid minnow]

Rocket is much harder to come by though

[sour basalt]

bubble not as much

[placid minnow]

So a rocket missing is more punishing than a bubble missing

[brave remnant]

I hit a tracking rocket. Enemy dodge and ran from it, I caught it into a bubble and reversed yesterday, it was a glorious ko

[queen swallow]

bubble is big and its usually coming straight on

[placid minnow]

My best Marvin KO was switching a rocket that was coming up from a ship I used for recovery then jab jab aerial side special hitting them into the rocket

Instant KO

[queen swallow]

hitting into rocket just feels nice

[brave remnant]

Idk why people fight me on top my ufo

But I take those

[placid minnow]

Depending on the character they can hit you and UFO

[sour basalt]

my forever best marvin ko is the first clip I ever got with him where I baited a finn into jumping onto my spaceship and instantly sent him into the blast zone at 0 health

[placid minnow]

I honestly kinda wish button had no cooldown, it may be a bit strong but would add so many layers

[queen swallow]

me too

[sour basalt]

me three

[queen swallow]

he has too many cooldowns

[brave remnant]

It's still a hit at point blank lol

Yeah button doesn't need cds

[placid minnow]

Don’t you love seeing 5 cooldown meters under your character

[brave remnant]

Everything it affects has cds

Except for partner projectiles

[queen swallow]

button and side special dont make all that much sense when everything has cooldowns

[brave remnant]

You could potentially abuse that

[placid minnow]

The fact I can only switch a rocket twice at most and then have 0 control over it is rather annoying

[queen swallow]

And it would buff marvins combo game

since he could button without a price all the time

[sour basalt]

buble

[brave remnant]

Could definitely toss it out more for hits if you weren't spending cds on it

[sour basalt]

infinite switch rocket could potentially be busted

[brave remnant]

But if you use it for a quick hit and aren't getting a projectile out of it is feel bad

[sour basalt]

not with the stupid projectile glitch rn tho

FIX THAT MULTIVERSUS

PLEAAAASE

[brave remnant]

Make rocket explode or despawn after an amount of distance traveld

Couldn't be infi ite

But wouldn't be completely limited either

[brave remnant]

What's wrong with projectiles

[sour basalt]

if te opponent dodges through them they are useless and cant hit anyone

[brave remnant]

Like they can't hit once dodged once, even on reversing it a new collision isn't detected?

[sour basalt]

yup

[brave remnant]

That's clearly not right

[sour basalt]

yup

[queen swallow]

Maybe give each projectile a 2 reverse limit instead of a two reverse limit total

[brave remnant]

That makes it seem like it's a state of the projectile

Projectile is dodged: true/false

[queen swallow]

Yeah probably

if true it doesnt hit would make sense

[sour basalt]

probably to avoid bugs bunny's safe from being busted

[brave remnant]

Rather than character is colliding with projectile, is character dodging: true/false

[brave remnant]

Right, always active, big hit box, slow moving.

Would like inifinte you on its own otherwise lol

[sour basalt]

yeah like it does with two bugs bunnies

[kind pier]

funnest part of marvin is trolling my bugs duo by reversing his safe and rocket at the worst possible times

[brave remnant]

This is the way

That rabbit has got to go anyways

[sour basalt]

bugs hitboxes are stupid

all his attacks with exception of side jab and up attack are stupidly big

buff my boy

margin the marshun

[kind pier]

yeah bugs is way too agile to have hitboxes that big

[queen swallow]

What are marvin bros thoughts on this

[sour basalt]

@golden anchor are you listening

[queen swallow]

insane

😭

[sour basalt]

yall like commander X2 or pink martian more

[queen swallow]

pink martian

but also 96 space jam

[agile ermine]

i use pink martian

[queen swallow]

his base design is peak though

[agile ermine]

Base is just fine

Would rock it over some of the other skins tbh

[autumn patrol]

This Sounds Broken On The Surface But I Feel Like It Might Make Some People More Predictable. Knowing Marvin Can Switch Any Moment Will Put Any Smart Player (Non-WW Mains.) On A Constant Alert, Applying More Things For Them To Keep Track Of, I Feel Like This Would Be A Buff And A Nerf At The Same Time But Idk, It Sounds Broken On Paper And Could Be In Execution.

I Highly Doubt It Would Be Insane Though, Still A Very Good Buff.

So Yeah Probably A Good Buff.

[sour basalt]

waiting for toon martian

thats gonna be peak

[queen swallow]

it would just be good I doubt it would be anything broken

[sour basalt]

Marvin gameplay:
Its so over
We're so back!!
WE'RE SO BACKK
It is so ultimately over
It is the most over it has ever been
We're SO BACK

[fringe trout]

Marvin gameplay:
Hit opponent 999 times
Get hit three times and die

[sour basalt]

🏅 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

harley SUCKS to play against GOD

[autumn patrol]

🚨INCREDIBLY LOUD AND CORRECT BUZZER🚨

[lost sand]

Imagine tbagging as WW vs marvin

[silver sable]

this would light me on fire with rage if it happened at dexter’s lab

[shy jolt]

any recommendations for pro marvin players whose clips i can see on yt?

[sour basalt]

wisdom v3 is pretty good

[shy jolt]

alr

[sour basalt]

js thats prolly gonna change soon its just the fact that barely any ytbers are playing marvin

[sacred gale]

Sadly he’s an underplayed character, one of the most fun and creative ones on the roster with so much possibility for chaos and growth

Would love to see more of him at higher play

[silver sable]

let’s all enter the next coinbox and make our own high level play

[robust forge]

Any tips on the Black Adam match up?

He kills me so early and deletes all my projectiles it sucks

[silver sable]

Ooh i had good sets with a black adam a few days ago

i usually try to down tilt them when they camp in bubble and play around their whiffs with side specials (air and or ground), jab, and sair

I try saving my projectiles when his bubble runs out but normally i use my neutral attack to make them think i’ll spam projectiles so they waste resources

I think using flag would scare them into bubble as well

[robust forge]

Good tips!

I'll try these next time dwanye the rock johnson wants to ruin my Martian activities

[silver sable]

It’s about drive, make them scared
It’s about power, overwhelm their senses so they forget who they are
Stay hungry, take advantage of their fear
Devour, hit a clip

[robust forge]

AND WHATS OUR MARTIAN MOTHER NAME? MARVIN!!!

[kind pier]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/i0GK7hKfxj8RIekbz/d13371IbDF9n?invite=cr-MSxtOGYsMjEyMzgzODE4LA

can someone please explain what i did to this banana guard

[lost sand]

I hate it when they just one and go when I know nothing about the mu and want to learn about it ig.

[agile ermine]

Not to sure, but this bug isn't only on Marvin

[kind pier]

from what i understand i hit bg with the big bubble and for some reason game thought he was a projectile and bubbled him

[agile ermine]

Characters or abilities van collide and either freeze the opponent or it keeps them moving in one direction until they die

[brave remnant]

Maybe that's been his secret all along, he is the projectile

[shy jolt]

from what ive been seeing he looks fun

might have to buy

[fringe trout]

Rifle bullet sticks to enemy, rifle returns and is trapped in bubble (with enemy attached), bubble continues onwards. Needs to go but it's still funny 😂

I've seen it first-hand too: #clips message

[lost sand]

Call me crazy, but I kinda like the bugs mu. It feels kinda iconic.

[placid minnow]

It’s iconic, iconicly in his favor

[fringe trout]

Pistol breaks heavy projectiles now, great counter to safe and rocket in 2s

1s is a different story

[placid minnow]

Marvin in 1s and 2s is a different character

[queen swallow]

^

[sour basalt]

lost to a bugs from a glitch that made me unable to grab the wall

how do i beat finn??

his range is so damn long i can never get close

and he uses the stupid dash to break my projectiles

[spare geyser]

Yeah I had that glitch happen to me for this hole day

[whole oriole]

i have been playing him and no hate but hes so bad hes good

[real carbon]

wait js there a marvin discord or something?? PUT ME ON IN THE NAME OF MARS 🎵🎵📣📣

[karmic osprey]

Haven’t you seen the newer my adventures with Superman show

[dim osprey]

Ight so

A good marvin

Will ruin your day

Omg he has potential

He has a pretty cool kit I'm ngl

[placid minnow]

People are learning what Marvin does and every losing MU just feels 1000 times worse

If buffs to kill power don’t come soon idk man

[broken pewter]

#clips message

Marvin my love

[placid minnow]

Ah to be a duos player

You guys get good Marvin

[broken pewter]

I’m a 1s player I only play 2s when my friends want to play with me then I get reminded why I hate 2s

[placid minnow]

I hate 2s cause either you get dominated or you dominate

Gets boring

Though I can pull off crazier Marvin plays cause the enemy usually isn’t even paying full attention

[broken pewter]

I just don’t like the gameplay of 2s feels like everyone is just running at each other with no thought and I hate it

[placid minnow]

Like the amount of snipes into top knockout I get in 2s is crazyyyy

[placid minnow]

Me when I fight a Wonder Woman

[broken pewter]

Massively true

[placid minnow]

2s feels like a clip farm which ,if you look at most MVS clips, seems to be true

[broken pewter]

At least in 1s it feels like I can fight her in 2s I’m getting run at by her and another character so it just feels 2x bad

[placid minnow]

I wish I felt like I can fight her in 1s but I just don’t have the patience to fight her well as Marvin

You have to play so passive and neutral it makes me fall asleep

[broken pewter]

Honestly I would say the same but I like both aggressive and passive playstyles as long as it’s with Marvin I’ll have fun

[placid minnow]

I have fun with passive if atleast I can get some advantage state but if it’s just a poke battle I get bored fast

[broken pewter]

That’s understandable

[edgy ocean]

Man marvin gets boring sonetimes

[broken pewter]

Never

[edgy ocean]

His playstyle is so different from other sthat when u dobt pkay him for awahile u forget to use him

I forgot to use him

[broken pewter]

That’s why you only play Marvin forever and always

[edgy ocean]

Marvin is fun. But yeah skmetimes i just wanna punch

[placid minnow]

Jab only Marvin

[broken pewter]

And headbut

[edgy ocean]

I meant like strong feeling

All of marvin's attack doesnt have that impact unless its his sair

[placid minnow]

Meta Slave!!!!

[edgy ocean]

Thats why I use jake now haha. I'll use all of the characters eventually

[broken pewter]

Marvin or nothing

[warped shoal]

mm

[broken pewter]

#clips message would’ve had the hardest clip if Marvin could kill

[placid minnow]

I need to use button more

As a combo tool

[broken pewter]

Button is definitely top 3 favorite moves

Very good with combos once you learn the routes

[placid minnow]

Just used it consistently in a match, and omg it’s game changing

[broken pewter]

Once you use button you never go back

Does anyone know if Marvin has a move that one shots Jerry, I’m good with everything else In this matchup having to double down tilt jerry is the only issue I have currently

[supple girder]

Marvin best character

[broken pewter]

^

[supple girder]

Peak short king

[broken pewter]

Marvin got massive aura

[supple girder]

• 10000000000 aura

Playing marvin is a way of life

[broken pewter]

You’re funny

(He doesn’t kill)

But his moves that kill the most often is up special rocket, jab3, and up special

But for all of those to kill they need to be 100+%

It ain’t they can di out

What do you mean?

Oh you mean that I believe it’s just a cute animation thing to be able to combo from jab i like it

I mean having jab3 as often as for example neutral attack would be really good so I understand it, but I’d like it

Marvin has a lot of stuff where you just kinda have to figure out yourself which I like, adds some “what he can do that” moments that I always love

Gotta remember he has button so being able to have like 3 of them up on stage at the same time as something that can spike would be oppressive

But I do agree give Marvin all the stuff 🙏

I wish I use it a ton and I can’t count the number of times it would have hit if it just had .5 seconds longer duration

But honestly Marvin’s in a good spot he has his bad matchups and he has his good ones once the big 5 are dealt with Marvin is gonna slowly creep up the tier list people just don’t want to play him because why would you when WW and Harley exist

More signature perks in general would be sick

Give me one that makes button have less end lag and more active frames please (I’m addicted to pressing button)

I honestly like the WW matchup the only thing I hate is her up special if that didn’t exist I could play only against WW and have a fun time

I will never forget dying to a WW mid stage at 20% because she pressed down tilt

Use your best friend down tilt/down air don’t be ashamed to spam it, if you see her glowing pull out the blaster

Most WW players brains turns off when they can’t abuse their armor and they get into this weird raging Bull mentality of pushing you no matter what and it just makes games easy as long as you whiff punish and be patient

Best you can do is honestly let her have it jump off stage set up ship stall for missle and retake stage with it, against WW you’re not gonna be able to control stage for long so don’t think about necessary how much space she has but more what space you have to work with

Marvin is one of the few characters that can reset his options off stage you gotta abuse that against her cause sure she can take stage but she can’t take something you just spawned you

Think of it more as a pressure thing seeing a big scary line is terrifying for people and they do act weird when you spawn it so learn how they react to it and use that against them

You’re absolutely right but Marvin just ain’t at there level so you gotta do what you can and if it’s stalling off stage to regain your options to attempt a retake and more than likely lose its just something you have to take the chance on

Side special really good stall tool as well and people don’t expect the amount of range it has using it like a normal side air is a huge buff to your combo game

Good luck on your match

💀

[broken pewter]

Bubbling garnets rocket and hitting her with it, is a top 10 why are you hitting yourself moment

[clear sapphire]

Hello. Got Jason to 220 wins, now I'm testing out Marvin. I like him alot

[rain horizon]

marvin cooks fr

[clear sapphire]

Whats your go to perk combo @rain horizon I go off recommendations so the triple Rocket perk, snowball, Movement speed, Pugilist

Would love suggestions from anyone

[supple girder]

Marvin cooks trust

[rain horizon]

i use the perk that left him aim his upair but idk if i like it yet. for the small perks i use press the advantage/ignite, speed, and pugilist

i wouldn’t recommend the triple rockets though

the one big rocket kills really well

[clear sapphire]

Thanks morty Im gonna test press advantage and Modulator Mark V for a while

[rain horizon]

press the advantage helps if you’re having a hard time knocking someone out

doesn’t always get use but i’d rather have and not need it than need it and not have it

[sour basalt]

i hate the marvin v black adam sandler matchup bro

imagine samurai jack plays like marvin

[silver sable]

maybe i haven’t seen enough samurai jack to understand how that would look

[supple girder]

I CLAIM THIS GAME IN THE NAME OF MARS

[clear sapphire]

I love multiversus

[brave remnant]

Told you button is baller, bubble pistol is goated.

Marvin is beastmode

[grave cave]

marvin

[hallow wasp]

Lebron matchup went from 6-4 to 7-3

Big Marvin dub. Winning matchup now more of a winning matchup

[brave remnant]

• Fixed an issue where Marvin could ringout opponents instantly due to a Side Special projectile interaction with Neutral Attack

[hallow wasp]

You could argue bubble basketball lost a bit of value but i trust the process

[brave remnant]

It's value Is equivalent still so same same I think yeah

Like your still getting what he gets out of the ball

[placid minnow]

This was super stupid, people who used this were pretty lame

Glad they patched it out

[brave remnant]

Agreed

I don't like imba

Me using it or not

I'm not having fun with no risk

I want that tension

Back and forth typeish

[placid minnow]

Imba?

[brave remnant]

Imbalanced

Broken busted op

[placid minnow]

I see

Yeah I play mostly mid to low tiers just cause it’s more fun

[rustic hedge]

Clearly the Lebron James chat doesn't agree

They are on MAX copium over there

It's like they all went on life support

[placid minnow]

Good

[brave remnant]

I just want to play something that has the same chances as everyone else and not to have to constantly change my character or how I play cause I'm abusing something that wasn't intended

That doesn't help you be actually good

You learn to crutch

[placid minnow]

Performing well with a weaker character is more gratifying aswell

[brave remnant]

Big brain plays

I almost bubble ladder someone yesterday

[blissful oxide]

Which one of mavin's moves do you think should be the designated kill move?

I think a fully charged kick should kill at reasonable rates

[brave remnant]

Laid a big bubble in the air, button, grounded upshot, jump bubble button upspecial almost upper blast zoned him

With little dmg on

[blissful oxide]

or fully charged flag

[brave remnant]

Your blaster side air special and dash attack are good

Air Down special works for ringouts

The purple beam of love

[blissful oxide]

Dash attack isn't the best really. Doesn't launch or combos into anything

[brave remnant]

You said kill move

[blissful oxide]

Oh yeah

Yeah it should be

[brave remnant]

They can ringout

That's what I listed

[blissful oxide]

I haven't seen a ringout from dash attack

The 3rd jab or down special just works better for that

[brave remnant]

I do it all the time

That blaster also works

[blissful oxide]

3rd jab projectile is really strong actually

[brave remnant]

Target on high % from harassing and you dash into them can ringout

Not at mid% tho

[blissful oxide]

Do you prefer up special trumpet or the up attack blaster

[brave remnant]

I stagger people a ton before even looking for the ringouts

I use both

I up blaster a lot

Example, rifle, upblaster, upspecial, airbubble, upblaster

They can dodge, in there but if they dodge you dodge bubble

And they just get interrupted or eat dmg

[blissful oxide]

I hope they fix that bug where if they dodge a projectile it becomes harmless to them

[brave remnant]

Frustrate them make them overcommit

[blissful oxide]

Do you ever kick after upspecial

or does that take too long

And does the mini bubble still launch upwards

Up special brings people right infront of you

Good for a kick or a side special

I think kick and side special are basically the same thing except side special is slower, has more range, and pops you up.

[blissful oxide]

Yes please, let us use button for combos without messing with the cooldowns

[brave remnant]

Yeah I think that should be a condition of the projectile not the button

[brave remnant]

Kick as in the jab?

[blissful oxide]

Side air

[brave remnant]

I usually bubble and try to get below

Fir more juicy up attacks

I find that makes people worry about being too vertical then they try to fall to the side making them headbutt targets

[blissful oxide]

Yeah up air is safer

[brave remnant]

If they play into you on disadvantage you can potentially just walk them up off screen

[blissful oxide]

Some characters can hit you back when you did all the work to bring them to the top of the screen

and kill you

[brave remnant]

I tend to try to hold ground and just poke and stagger for %stacking and frustration building

[brave remnant]

For sure, like black adam

[blissful oxide]

How would you approach a fully charged shaggy?

[brave remnant]

He can catch you from above you and just put you out the top

[brave remnant]

I wouldnt

[blissful oxide]

How do you set up a defense then

[fringe trout]

Save rifle and pray

[brave remnant]

Stand ground, last second bubble, dodge through your own bubble rifle backward, button

He's gonna rush you

[blissful oxide]

Maybe bubble and diagonally aimed up air

Though

can't he armor through bubble

[brave remnant]

Yeah always angle your bubble

[placid minnow]

How does Marvin feel with hit stun changes

[brave remnant]

It covers better

[placid minnow]

Is it any different

[fringe trout]

Side kick without rage even goes through bubble sometimes 😭

[blissful oxide]

I think they changed the visual effect of both characters freezing when they get hit

[fringe trout]

Since attacks can now break projectiles

[blissful oxide]

Not the hitstun itself

[placid minnow]

Sorry I meant hit pause

[blissful oxide]

They do?

[fringe trout]

Looks like it.
WW side air and BG side specials often break the projectile and they go straight through

[brave remnant]

I believe it's armor breaking attacks also break projectiles

Marvin's purple beam also breaks them

[fringe trout]

I could swear I've seen attacks like Shaggy side special negate projectiles, unless I'm going insane. I'll try to video capture if I see it again

[brave remnant]

Could be an unintended interaction or result of a perk or passive that makes the attack check vs projectiles

I thought it was a universal mechanic that armor breaking attacks also hit projectiles.

[ionic wagon]

I want to pick up Marvin any tips I can get

[supple girder]

Is marvin underrated

[inland oxide]

As someone who just tried to play a game with Marvin, I was terrible

How do I play him? I want to bring glory to the great Martian Empire

[placid minnow]

Are you new to the game or just the character

[placid minnow]

Gameplay wise absolutely, strength no

[inland oxide]

Mostly the character

[placid minnow]

Alr cause like 80% of doing good on him is learning the general gameplay especially neutral and advantage states

[white harness]

Marvinnnnn

[unique agate]

guys im having a hard toime getting ppl off the stage and just doing combos with him anyone got a fair attack that makes it easier to get ppl off the stage?

[placid minnow]

Welcome to playing Marvin

[unique agate]

i mean i still got like 250 wins im not that bad

but not good enough ig

[placid minnow]

Well if you want consistent kill options you’re out of luck, you really just have to adapt mid game

He’s not a character that can take you out of top stage at 60

[unique agate]

wdym by that

[unique agate]

im talking abt getting my opp to 160 and he still doesnt die

and then he kills me at 110

[placid minnow]

What I’m saying is you don’t really have kill confirm moves

You have to get people off stage most of the time for kills and usually you wanna set up so it’s more consistent

[unique agate]

so just hit and pray

[placid minnow]

You won’t have to pray if you set your abilities up properly

[unique agate]

if u rlly combo ur up normals u can get someone off at 90 easily

[placid minnow]

Yeah but all they gotta do is dodge or jump out

I try to combo dairs into up specials then read DI for the kill

[unique agate]

so like up normal up special ?

and then side special front kick

[placid minnow]

It all really depends on how the opponent DI’s

[unique agate]

ngl i dont know what a DI is

[agile ermine]

Directional Influence

[placid minnow]

Yup

With Marvin you have to predict and read DI’s a ton

[agile ermine]

While you are getting hit, you can input/hold a direction to influence where you get launched after you get hit

So like if I get hit by Joker Side Special in Air, im going to get sent to the side

But if you wiggle or hold your direction down, you have a chance fall out of the attack

This video is for Smash Ultimate, but it's a good example on how it works

https://youtu.be/Phq1PLOo-nU?si=-7C_puC7S7aXfL32

[agile ermine]

And to put it simply @unique agate , after you hit the up special in air, keep an eye on where they get launched, or are about to get launched, to follow up accordingly

[signal junco]

Yo why is Marvin so easy

😭

[eager plume]

so like i personally cant find the value in the triple rocket saucer perk. overall yes its a 6 damage increase and more but the reduced splash really messes with my muscle memory. i feel i they also are like harder to bubble for some reason.

[unique agate]

its not worth it

[agile ermine]

Triple rocket not worth

[unique agate]

space invader perk better

[signal junco]

Triple rocket is only for pressure

[agile ermine]

Space invader is the best Perk regardless of the medium you play

[signal junco]

But even then like people like Jason can 1 shot to ship

[agile ermine]

Maybe in Dubs depending on your team comp, but space invader still gaps

[unique agate]

why the ship so weak

[signal junco]

^

[agile ermine]

Unfortunately it is a flaw for Marvin

[eager plume]

im not gonna lie ive been more useing well rounded since i play a really grounded marvin. but i need to get myself used to using the pistol in the air

[agile ermine]

That's fine too

If you are more grounded, then static electricity works great with how you play then

[brave remnant]

I assumed it's value would be In area denial more than dmg, it seems like you would take this with the intent to use it for the zone/area control/denial to bully them into your flag for combos

[unique agate]

i reccomend if hes going ground just use puglist

thats what i use since ur never gonna be on the ground for more than 2 seconds

[eager plume]

yeah i run well rounded, that's flammable, collateral damage, and static electricity. though i often debate if the collateral damge is worth it

[unique agate]

dude trust me

change collateral for last stand

[brave remnant]

I use the k62 flammable last stand and pugelist

[unique agate]

if u get more than 1 combo at 100 damage

80 health

[eager plume]

alright i'll try it

[agile ermine]

Last Stand/Weakness is wayyy too good in the game

[unique agate]

u get 2 combos that 80 damage

[broken pewter]

Yeah it’s only useful to be a annoying type of area control move to make the opponent have to be thinking about it besides that it doesn’t do much

[brave remnant]

K-62 , that's flammable, last stand, pugilist is the loadout I'm running. I try to apply an even mix of pressure and area control with my flag/ufo

I try to stay grounded as much as possible

[unique agate]

why am i getting paired with 0 to death combo finn players the matchmaking is unfair sometimes

[brave remnant]

And I angle every shot except the rifle

[eager plume]

i like k-62 its a fun perk but it sometimes just never comes into play

[brave remnant]

There are times it is actually negative synergy

But the spice is so worth it imo

[broken pewter]

I only use k-62 in 2s for extra stage control besides that I don’t get to much use out of it but that also is just because of how my playstyle is

[brave remnant]

I do a lot of bubble and down attack to protect my front and stagger incoming rushdowns

[brave remnant]

I basically only play Marvin in 2s

[broken pewter]

That makes sense, yeah I’m a 1s Marvin player

[brave remnant]

I'd rather play Jason or joker in 1s

I will Marvin too tho

He's so fun

[broken pewter]

Joker gives me chronic sadness

[brave remnant]

Jason is fun in 2s also I be sleeping bagging both players lol

Mist step behind. 1jab sleeping bag. With partner pressure from opposite side

[eager plume]

i like to ground charge the pistol to bait them if they over commit to a punish i drop it and and zap them either the pistol hits them cause they tried to go around or i zap them cause they pushed on the ground. if im lucky both hit depending on their hit box. works every time

[broken pewter]

Jason looks cool to play but I can’t get into him

[eager plume]

if its a jason you can hit both easily too

[brave remnant]

You have to be patient and play kinda all d to full pusnish

[broken pewter]

Down tilt my beloved

[brave remnant]

Jason gets to be more aggro in 2s

How's the 1v1 hit stun change?

[broken pewter]

Honestly haven’t played yet I’m just hoping I’m still able to down air, neutral special

[eager plume]

i havent noticed a difference but i cant remember exactly what it was like yesterday

[brave remnant]

10% seems like a decent change. This was what I said I thought the game needed to make the pace feel less "slow"

I didn't like the break neck movement speed

[broken pewter]

If you couldn’t tell then it’ll probably be okay then so that’s good

Honestly I was okay with the speed, I did love the beta speed but that was a different time, current multiversus is fast if both players are good i only really feel the slowness during combos

It feels like cutscenes sometimes

[fringe trout]

Looks like only hitpause was reduced. Won't affect gameplay, but will speed things up
10 frames is quite a chunk of time in this regard

Should feel smoother

[eager plume]

i dont see harleys spin kick spam anymore so i guess thats a biproduct of the change

[broken pewter]

I’m getting on now so I’m hoping it feels better 🙏

[brave remnant]

Trying to decide who I unlock next......kinda thinking taz?

[broken pewter]

Taz is cool, has combo potential and feels unique

[brave remnant]

I like how true to his character his gameplan is

Sorta why I like Marvin so much

Seems like a 1v1 monster potentially

[broken pewter]

Thats actually really true looking at taz in a fighting game and seeing his moveset really feels like they got it right

[broken pewter]

He’s definitely good in 1v1 he’s also one of those characters that’s good but get snuffed out by the top characters but I’ve seen some taz players do some crazy stuff

[brave remnant]

The salt and pepper thing leading to him seeing you as chicken......fantastic 👌

[brave remnant]

Why do you say he gets snuffed, he have hard time getting in? Or just lacking true combos?

[rustic hedge]

small hitboxes

lack of any real range

can barely really deal with armor

[brave remnant]

Gets zoned easily then?

[rustic hedge]

not to mention he actually doesn't have the best kill power

[brave remnant]

Oof on the armor. That's not a good look

[rustic hedge]

he can break it, mind you

[broken pewter]

I’m not super knowledgeable about taz so take everything with a grain of salt but from my experience he just has less options compared to the better characters he kinda has to use certain moves to get his things started or to kill and it just makes him really predictable

[rustic hedge]

dair and dtilt both break armor and he can chomp you

not to mention dash attack with 2 fast perk

but all those have very iffy hitboxes

you might be hitting Jason's gray health with that

but Wonder Woman? ehhhhhhhh

[brave remnant]

Looking at his moveset he's got a lot of supportive mechanics

[broken pewter]

I feel like he’d be good in 2s

Yoo they added toonverse Marvin

[eager plume]

yo finally a good skin besides his duck doggers skin

oh he has yellow gloves

nvm

[supple girder]

Best perks for marvin

[brave remnant]

They are only yellow in tunesquad not tooniverse, just off white basically the same as the default skin with dot matrix over it

[broken pewter]

Press the advantage, flammable, last stand, collateral, pugilist

[supple girder]

What about signature

[broken pewter]

Space invader

[eager plume]

they all have there value depending on what youre looking for

im a well rounded enjoyer since i play grounded

[broken pewter]

K-62 is good for projectile bouncing with button mostly good in 2v2 causes a lot of chaos, space invader really improves your juggling making him dangerous off stage, and heat seekers really good annoying stage coverage tool, well rounded just a good perk if you’re not feeling the others

[broken pewter]

#clips message good example of using bubble to cover enemy’s options and force them into certain positions, and using ship as a reset tool

[abstract grove]

im running snowball speed force armor killer and im kinda doing work with marvin rn

[broken pewter]

You can remove armor killer for something else your down tilt is a spam-able move that armor breaks really easily

[abstract grove]

i didnt know that breaks armor

[broken pewter]

Yeah your down tilt and your down air both armor break

Your other 2 are good id just personally remove armor killer and you’re good to go

[abstract grove]

i swap snowball for flamable in twos beacuse i feel like i cant proc it as well in 1s

[broken pewter]

That’s understandable flame is really good in 2s when you’re playing Marvin as just a supportive damage dealer

[abstract grove]

oh it does break armour your right it just doesnt say it in the move list

thanks for lettting me know

[broken pewter]

If you’re wanting some sauce tho try running press the advantage in 1s it’ll help you kill a bit when normally Marvin struggles hard with it

[sour basalt]

everything purple breaks armor

[broken pewter]

No problem just tryna make all the Marvin’s good

[abstract grove]

im loving him rn he feels so nice

[broken pewter]

Marvin is a one of a kind typa character if you’re loving him he’ll definitely stay as enjoyable no matter how much you play him at least for me that’s the case

[abstract grove]

i was playing arya for a bit but she has to work alot harder to get less done you know

[broken pewter]

Arya is a character where you gotta play reactionary, and once you lock that playstyle down she’s really dangerous, especially with the gravity cancel perk

[supple girder]

I'm starting to feel like marvin isn't the character for me

[lost sand]

Why's that?

[supple girder]

I like characters that are melee and close in your face

Not ones that play range and I feel marvin plays range

[lost sand]

I see

I suppose I won't have a lot of weight on what I'm about to say since I've only been playing for a week roughly, but to me, Marvin feels like a character where you need to both use melee and range.

[supple girder]

Idk lol anyhow

[broken pewter]

Marvin can be very melee based just depends on how you’re playing him, he does have range tools but that doesn’t mean you have to camp with him

[lost sand]

besides, most of his range tools, they don't necessarily have a big range to them, right?

[abstract grove]

i have been playing him like a ranged rushdown charater instead of using them for like zoning and it has worked really well so far

he is a assassin not a mage afterall

just fish for entries with dair then stick on them after

[broken pewter]

Yeah his most ranged tool is his rocket cause it goes full screen

[broken pewter]

That’s how I like to play him as well use my projectiles to remove their options and force them into my combos and just us in the projectiles as more of a stage presence and less so for my main damage

[abstract grove]

The only time I am like heavy using my projectiles is when I'm juggling with up tilt but otherwise even when I have flag on them I'm trying to stick to them when I get that hit

[broken pewter]

Marvin’s a flexible character that you can switch up the playstyle depending on situations he’s really freeing in my experience

[clear sapphire]

For some reason, when I use the Mark V perk, I do terrible. I dont want to be able to aim to uair, so I dont use that perk.

Now my last 5 games, Ive won 4.

[edgy ocean]

Its kinda easy to use

I use dpad

[broken pewter]

You could always just use well rounded

[clear sapphire]

Im finding triple rocket is helping me finish them off

[neat coral]

i LOVE marvin

[broken pewter]

Hmm nice if it’s working for you keep at it

[neat coral]

triple rocket really good for pressure 💯

[abstract grove]

triple rocket is really really good but i feel weird if i cant move his up air

[edgy ocean]

Marvin mains are getting alot

[abstract grove]

does anyone else have enemies randomly get the flag debuff perma

i dont know what procs it

[lost sand]

never seen that happening before

[abstract grove]

im pretty sure you have to die to proc it but idk specifically how it happens

[lost sand]

Then I guess I never see it because I never die! /s

It is pretty strange though

[clear sapphire]

I started losing in 2v2s a bunch.

I made myself do 1s for like 30 matches. My recent 1s winrate is 80%

Im LERNING

[broken pewter]

Had it happen once I’m not sure what caused it tho

[gloomy citrus]

That happens to me a lot

[brazen inlet]

Can someone tell me how to play this alien

Got him

He's cool

Reminds me of bugs

[broken pewter]

He’s kinda like a rush down, zoner if that makes sense your usual goal is to have things on the screen to scare your opponent and claim stage control and when you do that it puts your opponent in a weird limbo of dodging your projectiles while also trying to get close to you which leaves them open to your fun combo/ setup game

[broken pewter]

He’s a really fun character that the more time you put in the more you’ll learn and get rewarded he’s my king fr

[pseudo tide]

tricking someone into not preparing to get hit by your missile is never not satisfying

[brazen inlet]

Oh okay now I see. Because I went up against a really good Marvin (I went 2 to 1 somehow) and he was just spamming his projectiles

[broken pewter]

Giving them a false sense of security always a good feeling

[brazen inlet]

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