Jake can do the same strat with little difference and can still win
#Jake The Dog
brittle jackal
I'm still on the side of neutral special nerfs are (mostly) unjustified. A bite spamming Jake that just needs a stock advantage to just suicide isn't fun to fight but its removing a fun tool in his kit
I do agree with Jake spitting out the enemy/dying first along of having a easier time escaping but was it nessasary to remove the ability to jump?
mossy linden
I'm still on the side of neutral special nerfs are (mostly) unjustified. A bite ...
I’m sure bite spamming and bite suicide got removed in season 2. For me, suicides would only kill me last season
mossy linden
I do agree with Jake spitting out the enemy/dying first along of having a easier...
Removing the ability to jump is crazy. Especially in 2v2s when I eat one of them and I normally jump to avoid their teammates attack but oh well
glad dagger
idk why they made him so reliant on nair stretchy punch and bite
mossy linden
Think it’s coz they want him to be an aerial bruiser. Doesn’t mean that they should just leave jab and most other grounded attacks just completely terrible smh. But now the endlag on nair and sair makes the aerial attacks even slower than before
glad dagger
and when no one else has endlag like that either lmao
i wish he had options like the beta
if house was still that fast but contestable it'd actually be a better option
really confused on why they make a slow character when everyone else is fast
ashen echo
ngl this nerf was so bad that it genuinely made me feel anguish
you literally cannot win against a good player
they sucked out the fun
there's no reason to play anymore
muted lance
That's why I've moved to Beetlejuice and Jason and Banana Guard lol
It's over for this character
crude reef
only reason why i main jake is because his moves are actually fun
literally anytime i use a different character i find it boring
ashen echo
only reason why i main jake is because his moves are actually fun
his moves are fun but they gutted him so badly now that i just cant
it's impossible
crude reef
but with the recent changes to jake and his kill potential being worse that it was before i just dont know what to do actually
crude reef
his moves are fun but they gutted him so badly now that i just cant
it’s really sad tbh
i was a bugs main back in the beta and started using him when the game came back
ashen echo
but with the recent changes to jake and his kill potential being worse that it w...
his kill potential was already garbage since the game's release, so much so that you had to do early kills, such as bite spam off stage and upair into top blast zone
crude reef
i used jake once in the beta but i thought he was lame
ashen echo
and then they take out his only moves that had early kill potential
and they gave nothing in return
crude reef
i randomly used him one day around s1 and realized how fun his moves were but he was still very weak
crude reef
his kill potential was already garbage since the game's release, so much so that...
exactly all jake had was cheesing his way to victory
then they actually gave him a kill potential move like nair to special follow up
but now after using it once
the end lag is so horrible
and up air being nerfed to 1150?
that barely kills
ashen echo
the only rewarding way of using his sair now is if you dodge first, then if u sair after it u have no endlag
that at the cost of stamina tho
ashen echo
and up air being nerfed to 1150?
they can be kissing the top blast zone at 40 percent, if u land both uppair's it wont kill regardless
that's how sh*t his uppair is rn
crude reef
and his horse too
completely garbage
only hits once for some reason
and it still doesn’t hit anyone
ashen echo
now u are like, forced to uppair once to stun them, stretch as close as possible to the blast zone and then finish the job
that if they arent below 40 percent
or 50
crude reef
now u are like, forced to uppair once to stun them, stretch as close as possible...
that’s if they’re not too high
cuz the first hit literally be sending them away
especially when trying to hit them at like 130
the follow up won’t even hit them
ashen echo
especially when trying to hit them at like 130
yea it feels like they did it on purpose lmao
just so u cant land second uppair
it will shove them so up high that u cant land it
crude reef
that’s what i’m sayin
then i’m out here dying to superman side special at 40 due to his perk
absolute bs
and skateboard
still worse move in the game
doesn’t connect to each other
or they can literally dodge out of it mid combo
ashen echo
well thanks to the weird ass nair they changed now
crude reef
and teching added to the game so no follow ups
ashen echo
sometimes you can skate twice, nair and skate twice bite
cuz some times they dont ricochet on the ground for the nair, they just
hoover it
crude reef
sometimes you can skate twice, nair and skate twice bite
yeah i tried that but teching still exist
and his moves are way too slow to try and read them
crude reef
oh bet
and skateboard of edge
literally the worst thing you can do
trying to kill them at the bottom of the blast zone
skateboard them into wall
dodge out of it
skateboard not to wall
still be able to dodge
ashen echo
they panick if you land skateboard offstage on them
crude reef
yeah but most of the time they literally dodge out of it
but then my combo is still going so i couldn’t cancel it in time
and die
ashen echo
oh yea when they dodge out of the way u just fall down
crude reef
yep
crude reef
fr
actually no way to use the skateboard anymore
unless you do double skateboard then cancel to use another move
but most jake’s wouldn’t even know that
i literally just found that our 3 days ago
ashen echo
well last season
i did skateboard into stretchy into uppair
it killed
i clipped it as well
crude reef
that works?
wait have yall realized that jake’s jab
like when you dash cancel to jab
it literally stops him mid way through
unlike everyone else
they making jake bad on purpose 😭🙏
neon steeple
does jake still not have a single combo to his name chat⁉️
grim burrow
They got rid of the cool skateboard super jump
muted lance
If you're not a Reindog then PFG doesn't like your dog
thick timber
does jake still not have a single combo to his name chat⁉️
they removed all of them and made nair a combo starter off floor bounce
neon steeple
they removed all of them and made nair a combo starter off floor bounce
Why does he have a combo starter but no combos lol
crude reef
cuz they don’t want jake to be good
every character out here having a 3-6 hit true combo with good damage
but jake out here having no combos and bad damage
ornate ruin
Nair + air down , bite , air side, the only moves a gm jake uses
ornate ruin
Nair + air down , bite , air side, the only moves a gm jake uses
Pfg really has to rework this guy cause where are his combos bruhv
static knoll
He’s still good in my opinion buddy
grim burrow
I'd love to have whatever you're on
neon steeple
He’s still good in my opinion buddy
Ur 62% wr says differently buddy
grim burrow
brittle sphinx
bro really said jake is still really good lmfao
hes literally so much slower
skateboard
IS EVEN WORSE
INSANE
fighting fast characters on jake is point blank impossible now
like
I can no longer kill early at the top as i used to previously with the reduced knockback or mace 2
which was literally his saving grace
sure hes getting torn up most of the match but atleast he can get those early kills
but NAH
brittle sphinx
you said jake is still "really good" and he checked your stats
neon steeple
u really went to my profile?
U got 2k other views is there an issue? U said jake is good when he’s not ur probably just looking for attention lol
brittle sphinx
or not really good idk what u even said tbf
jake is gone
i wanna play a different character but at the same time this is the only character that interests me
actually wild
crude reef
I can no longer kill early at the top as i used to previously with the reduced k...
fr
they really nerfed it to 1150
that’s not gonna kill at all
brittle sphinx
nair in to nair 2
lol
this character is done
how every update has made him progressively worse is beyond me
crude reef
nair in to nair 2
triple skateboard if they don’t dodge out of it in the first hit 😭
crude reef
funny how they say they will find a way to make him better
just to make him worse every patch
brittle sphinx
skateboard was actually viable in season 1
once they land of the floor you can iad on them
even if it wasnt the best
it was much better than it is now
ESPECIALLY with the addition of tech
u literally gotta predict which way they roll
rip my boy
my boyyyy
my boyyyyyyyyyy
crude reef
u literally gotta predict which way they roll
even if they do roll they can just spam dodge again
really no point in using skateboard unless you cancel the third hit
glad dagger
i don't think its bad that you have to read the tech tbh
even if the ground bounce combo was better
brittle sphinx
i don't think its bad that you have to read the tech tbh
sure its not bad but for a character thats already suffering of having to work 10x harder than your enemy
this is just yet another part to it
geniunely insane
rip my boy
neon steeple
Don’t touch Arya and ww✅ Nerf jake and Jason✅ kinda funny how we actually play a game where character strength is dependent on who devs main
crude reef
fr
brittle sphinx
they gotta be riding nakats nuts
cuz WW being untouched and actually recieving a buff
is not possible
just because community managers dont "contibute to balancing"
doesnt mean they arent getting their feed back from the lowkey
glad dagger
should at least be able to get one ground bounce before they tech the third hit of dair
brittle sphinx
why else would they have them try out unreleased characters
glad dagger
fr like how do they look at top 8s being mostly ww and think she's fine lol
brittle sphinx
NAKAT PLEASE YOUR THE BEST PLATFORM PLAYER IN THE WHOLE GAME WE NEED YOUR HELP GUIDANCE AND INTILLEGENCE PLEASE
bros tierlist were straight up garbage in beta im not gonna lie to you
you can go ahead and watch his early ones
bro was calling WW balanced
in BETA
glad dagger
i think they at least got rid of that weird vacuum thing with her nair
i think every top tier just boils down to either dodge jab or broken frame data
glad dagger
the funniest thing is despite any change jake gets i still cheese people really early with up b
topaz edge
Wait is jake better or worse than last patch
Worse at cheesing, he is better at fighting if you are looking for that
Still a mid tier but he is not that bad tbh
He still need buffs
mossy linden
Definitely low tier
wet flicker
Yeah he definitely feels more like a fighter now but I feel that frustration of going for a kill for it to just barely knock them away
Only thing that seems to work still is up special into up air(if necessary)
thick timber
Nair + air down , bite , air side, the only moves a gm jake uses
They tech out of dair
O i thought you were tryna make a combo
thick timber
skateboard was actually viable in season 1
id argue it was lowkey strong just a lil hard to hit
thick timber
Or does he
nair bounce to dair
thats as far as you can go, 4 hits
probably ~16 damage
ornate ruin
thats as far as you can go, 4 hits
How much damage
thick timber
i have no doubt the devs are working hard and are skilled but if thats true then no way theyre playtesting jake enough
ornate ruin
I think the devs are playtesting a whole other game
Cus whats up with shaggy still being top 1
muted lance
Giving all buffs to a top tier character
ornate ruin
Giving all buffs to a top tier character
Top chars didnt get any buffs but no nerfs either
rustic phoenix
Horsey or horse she?
thorn zenith
yea ive been playing jake for like 3 days now
he has no kill potential
i gotta get dudes to 160 for a knockout
brittle jackal
So uh, small fact... watching JMafia is the sole reason why I never gave up on Jake
thorn zenith
So uh, small fact... watching JMafia is the sole reason why I never gave up on J...
I would love to know how JMafia took this update
brittle jackal
I'm not promoting him but just how he still manage to make him work gave me a confidence boost to push Jake to see if he's truly awful
glad dagger
he seems to be playing banana guard more
thorn zenith
Tell me what Jake has
thorn zenith
- Agent Smith got an infinite loop
- Ayra doesn't even need to be mentioned
- Banana Guard absurd arial game
- Batman has a consistent combo that can get to 50
- Beetlejuice is exempt
- Black Adam has an absurd ladder
- Bugs neutral air need i say more
- Finn. Just Finn.
- Garnet's neutral air combos into jabs, which can move into airals
- Gizmo.
- Harley Quinn is exempt
- Iron Giant has a new loop
- Jason is exempt
- Lebron has batman syndrome (combos that lead to 50)
- Marvin has 72 different guns
- Morty neutral projectile into side special into up arial
- Reindog might as well be in a sniper tower with how far away he wants to be
- Rick relies only on his jab
- Jack has his jab and side special
- Shaggy. Nothing said.
- Steven is exempt
- Stripes stupid gun
- Supermans up smash gets armor almost intant
- Taz's Tornado Sandwich Dogpile special
- Joker's rng card
- no opinon on pfg yet
- tom slinging jerry 24/7 and playing paddleball
- Velma is exempt
- Wonder Woman's armor and lasso spam
glad dagger
jake's gimmick is he plays the actual game outside of some cheese
thorn zenith
jake is the only honest character
well
scratch that
one of the only honest characters
most honest
glad dagger
no he's still got it
brittle sphinx
what cheese does he have
glad dagger
i still cheese people early with up b stuff
brittle sphinx
dawg
glad dagger
up b up air still exists
brittle sphinx
that's like saying u cheese with Jason up special
glad dagger
and the bottom of up b kills really early
muted lance
jake is the only honest character
If you play Jake then you are royalty in this server, even if you have the skill level of a baby.
No exceptions
brittle jackal
I just tend to nair spam as Jake since it's that good. Hey other characters are busted so it's an excuse to spam as jake
glad dagger
still has cheese just not the kind that's super easy to hit
compared to superman jason iron giant etc
i think another problem is jake gets nothing off of dodge jab while how many other characters' whole plan revolves around it
wish they would've nerfed it already, jabs were not like this in beta
mossy linden
still has cheese just not the kind that's super easy to hit
What cheese
brittle jackal
Agent Smith is aids for Jake omg his attacks beat out his for a dumb reason
brittle jackal
It's true actually
It's just they nerfed evey good thing about Jake
Why PFG has something against Jake?
autumn pond
because they know the jake mains are too strong
if hes not the worst in the game hes the best, but for like 10 players
we'd take over the competitive scene
yet again
brittle jackal
It's like they're activity trying to make him unplayable
brittle sphinx
i cant bro im gonna play jake no matter what
no other character is as good as jake
glad dagger
once they drop marceline i'm out lol
brittle sphinx
yeah thats in 54 days
glad dagger
maybe the game will be in a better state by then
glad dagger
kinda same as reading dodges except a bit faster
gotta guess what direction they're holding
brittle sphinx
so its up to the player to decide which way they are gonna be teched? or does the game automatically tech them to a certain direction
glad dagger
you can decide which way to tech yeah
brittle sphinx
can u choose to tech and not roll any direction?
glad dagger
yeah if you don't hold a direction
brittle sphinx
alr well thats good to know
i always thought the game automatically teched them to a direction
maybe the direction they were facing?
thanks
crude reef
nair bounce to dair
that’s not gonna work due to teching
crude reef
- Agent Smith got an infinite loop
- Ayra doesn't even need to be mentioned
- Ba...
ppg side attack into down attack into nair ect
that all leads up to 40+ damage
thorn zenith
ppg side attack into down attack into nair ect
It’s like why does every other character have combos that go to 40 and Jake falls flat
glad dagger
forgot to mention the true zero to death with blossom
crude reef
It’s like why does every other character have combos that go to 40 and Jake fall...
that’s what i’m saying
and they all are strong attacks too
only combo jake really has is side atk 1&2 into up atk
or down atk
unless you’re fighting a morty/arya/people in a low weight class
they can dodge out of the down attack for some reason
and max damage for the combo is atleast 10-13
brittle sphinx
its been a 115 days guys
we aint getting justice for jake
if they couldnt get jake right in 115 days
nothing could possibly help him
autumn pond
some whiners fr
thorn zenith
some whiners fr
Make a montage and make us prideful again
autumn pond
make some plays and do it yourself jake's cracked
thorn zenith
make some plays and do it yourself jake's cracked
Nah I believe in you
Make smth shake
Jake
thorn zenith
Those conveniently placed bags of jelly beans?
autumn pond
Those conveniently placed bags of jelly beans?
brother what
thorn zenith
brother what
Look over there
autumn pond
your actually wild for saying he's "cracked"
maybe you're not "cracked"
bunch of jake haters claiming to love the character
do better
brittle sphinx
dawg
are you serious
bro is rage baiting
how do u "measure" cracked
you literally cant pull off any combos on this character unless the enemy is out of dodge meter
yeah go enjoy getting slammed around lol
bro beat 1 person with stretchy punch to bottom blast zone and cant contain himself
"g-g-g-gggggulppppp im so cracked i destroyed this shaggy who just installed the game and has never seen jakes move w-w-w-w-wwooowwwwww god has gifted me wi-w-w-w-wwwithhh so much talent on jake"
autumn pond
i beat the #3 and #5 players EASILY earlier as jake bro idk if you're talking about 1's but jake has some unique qualities that no other characters can fill.
brittle sphinx
im talking about 1s
autumn pond
then yeah jake's washed
brittle sphinx
in 2s having a teammate saves this character
autumn pond
1's has never been jake's mode even when he was cracked
brittle sphinx
even then its much better having a different team mate thank jake
autumn pond
maybe when ur in the team
brittle sphinx
eventually your enemy will realize hmmmm maybe going inside his upspecial where he will mace me isnt a good idea
crude reef
i beat the #3 and #5 players EASILY earlier as jake bro idk if you're talking ab...
just because you beat top players doesn’t mean that jake is busted
autumn pond
just because you beat top players doesn’t mean that jake is busted
means hes viable
yall act like hes unplayable
brittle sphinx
maybe when ur in the team
cant tell if ur rage baiting or not and im not a cornball whose gonna say "well i hit masters so ik what im talking abt 🤓 "
autumn pond
im top 10 jake
brittle sphinx
just because hes not unplayable doesnt mean he should be borderline close to being unplayable
crude reef
all we’re saying is that jake could be better
autumn pond
its not like my opinion is invalid
glad dagger
i think i'm gonna hit master then actually play other characters
ppg zero to death everyone
brittle sphinx
bro wants the character to be unplayable 1st
before there could be any comments
buff superman on the other hand?
yeah all chill bro
crude reef
ppg zero to death everyone
they always release new characters and make them broken
crude reef
jack release flash backs
autumn pond
jake is cracked
facts
brittle sphinx
bros rage baiting W rage bait
crude reef
i do miss the old jake
i mean samurai jack
glad dagger
at least the other newcomers didn't have a combo that kills at 40 lol
brittle sphinx
bro has gotta be working for pfg
you be seeing superman and morty mains begging for buffs then you got this cornball who thinks he'll get good boy points for saying "well actually jake is cracked 🤓 ☝️ "
his nair to nair 2 being a true "combo" if u can even call it a combo is def a good change
glad dagger
its funny they'd rather actually buff characters like batman
brave arrow
1's has never been jake's mode even when he was cracked
not true lmao
brittle sphinx
i dont think he played the game much
brave arrow
jake was like one of the best characters in 1s in beta
no one wants him that strong again but just make him fun
glad dagger
okay batman is just broken rn
mossy linden
make some plays and do it yourself jake's cracked
Jake is cracked? There isn’t a single jake in any top 100 leaderboards lmao u rly need attention that much? Just because u won a couple games, doesn’t mean Jake is a beast
ashen echo
Jake is cracked? There isn’t a single jake in any top 100 leaderboards lmao u rl...
there's no way
ashen echo
Yeah currently
hard to believe that there's no jakes at all between those 100 players
mossy linden
hard to believe that there's no jakes at all between those 100 players
Check for yourself
autumn pond
Jake is cracked? There isn’t a single jake in any top 100 leaderboards lmao u rl...
lol thats because none of the best jake players are grinding. There are only a few that know how to play the character. also any idiot can pick up harley quinn shaggy or samurai jack and get into grandmasters
just because a character's harder to play doesn't mean it's worse.
again I'm talking 2v2s
y'all are just extremely pessimistic about stuff that doesnt matter
mossy linden
lol thats because none of the best jake players are grinding. There are only a ...
If jake was a cracked character as you said then the best jake players would be grinding him. Also if he was cracked any idiot can pick him up and get into gm. But he’s not
mossy linden
just because a character's harder to play doesn't mean it's worse.
I mean he’s rated a medium difficulty
ashen echo
If jake was a cracked character as you said then the best jake players would be ...
its funny how his own argument fails him
''character is cracked'', no one's grandmaster with it
lmao
wet flicker
its funny how his own argument fails him
It's too good man! Lol
grim terrace
yeah man i held top 5 jake for a bit last season
and ijust have no desire to play him
other characters are just better unfortunately
thats why theres no jakes in grandmaster
wooden mango
they need to give Jake back his bite
wooden mango
if struggle doesn't stop Jason bag toss, struggle shouldnt stop Jake spit
thorn zenith
we have no kill moves
like tell me how many of you guys get someone to 160 and they still wont die
glad dagger
i feel like its more he struggles to hit than he doesn't have kill moves
bro...i almost took a set off the #1 player
thorn zenith
good 4 u
leaden axle
i like up tilt for kill move.
glad dagger
its not even to brag or anything i'm kinda disappointed cause the last game was close
but the fact i did it with jake
thorn zenith
i like up tilt for kill move.
and how many times did the first tilt screw up the second tilt
glad dagger
up tilt you have to hit sweetspot to kill
crude reef
up air doesn’t kill over 130 bruh
cuz the first part of the move sends them away
it’s annoying
glad dagger
just jump or dodge and do up air 1 again
leaden axle
and how many times did the first tilt screw up the second tilt
Up smash? The axe swing thing
thorn zenith
Up smash? The axe swing thing
ohhhhh
i thought he meant air up tilt
yeah even then it kills at like 120-130
leaden axle
Nah i know that one sometimes doesn’t connect its annoying
Idk sometimes you can mind game them and do a fully charged up smash after they try to dodge. But idk i havent been playing ranked so maybe its just worse players. I have been enjoying jake for the little ive played so far after patch. I think hes more fun rn.
thorn zenith
Idk sometimes you can mind game them and do a fully charged up smash after they ...
yea, please dont bring him into ranked
you will start to hate him and urself
leaden axle
Noted
crude reef
just jump or dodge and do up air 1 again
does that actually work?
leaden axle
Have yall tried the perk that does +1 damaged hitting terrain? I feel like he does way more ground bounces now
glad dagger
does that actually work?
yes if you feel like the second hit of up air won't connect do that or go for up b
autumn pond
first jake to hit master this season let's go
gg
autumn pond
i’m right behind jmafia in ranked
im #10
brittle sphinx
i’m right behind jmafia in ranked
yeah hes on banana man
thorn zenith
first jake to hit master this season let's go
Congrats
wet flicker
u better not say nair in to nair 2
lol
they keep jake down and now they ruined my harley. at least banana guard feels good
safe falcon
crude reef
first jake to hit master this season let's go
hacker
brittle jackal
I like using the bounce house perk a bit. It makes his house more fun to use and gives him a small mobility boost
thorn zenith
ok ill give you that
autumn pond
we have no kill moves
main kill move is the stretch, axe is also great
thorn zenith
main kill move is the stretch, axe is also great
the thing kills at 130
should at least kill at 110
autumn pond
the thing kills at 130
kills any light character at 60 lol
weight is a huge factor in this game
a lot of jake's value comes from the early vertical kills though
thorn zenith
kills any light character at 60 lol
show
like send a clip cuz im actually curious
the axe one
autumn pond
definitely at 70
glad dagger
if you hit them at the highest of the swing full charge sweetspot it can kill at 60
i'd guess not on heavy characters
thorn zenith
if you hit them at the highest of the swing full charge sweetspot it can kill at...
send a clip of it in training mode cuz i actually wanna see that
autumn pond
send a clip of it in training mode cuz i actually wanna see that
nobody has the time for that
thorn zenith
Dude it’s like 5 minutes
glad dagger
its kind of hard to replicate cause i can't make the cpu go high enough
autumn pond
send a clip of it in training mode cuz i actually wanna see that
if you play jake long enough it'll happen
if it doesn't you're bad
thorn zenith
if it doesn't you're bad
Dude im just asking for a clip that’ll take you five minutes to do
8 if you don’t have medal or any type of clipping software
autumn pond
i dont
thorn zenith
Like I wanna see if that’s true or not and im not at my computer
autumn pond
im the #10 jake in the world
thorn zenith
lmao you're lying
Check the rank if you want idc
autumn pond
wanna 1v1?
thorn zenith
Dude im laying in bed it’s 2 AM
I’m not getting out of bed just so you can have ur boastful pride squashed
Be humble or whatever
autumn pond
you're intolerable
thorn zenith
You’re immature
Doesn’t matter can we go back to the 60 damage crit axe swing thing
autumn pond
yes it happens
autumn pond
get over it you probably are just bad at timing the axe
thorn zenith
Dude im asking for a video not a douche comment
Like I’m that “see it to believe it” on this rn
autumn pond
you know about the axe dealing like double knockback when it hits the tip right
autumn pond
there you go
autumn pond
is gizmo one of the lightest?
thorn zenith
think so
So you’re telling me you gave him weakened, had him above you, and put him on the map infamous for the low knockout ceiling
The being above him is fair but like the other two
thorn zenith
They both have the same weight
autumn pond
i may be looking at an old image
glad dagger
again its not easy to replicate i'm not sitting there forever trying to do the right timing
thorn zenith
again its not easy to replicate i'm not sitting there forever trying to do the r...
You know you can set them to idle right
glad dagger
i had to get them into position to put them above me
its at the peak of the swing not the lowest point
autumn pond
downloading obs
glad dagger
hence why i had to get them above me
thorn zenith
its at the peak of the swing not the lowest point
Ok so the axe at the peak of the swing fully charged and crit is a certified kill at 60
On the lightest character
autumn pond
it's just at the tip of the axe's hitbox
autumn pond
im doing it right now
thorn zenith
Now I don’t wanna compare but
Shaggy
Can kill at 100 with his guaranteed jab jab up special
Like almost free every time because it’s so easy to fish for
Not saying Jake can do the same, he can
But it has to be at 140+
Jab jab up tilt
glad dagger
why is that relevant
the point was jake up tilt can kill at 60 not that shaggy isn't better
thorn zenith
Because Jake has to do so much more damage to knock people out and has little to no ko moves (mallet)
glad dagger
we weren't talking about that before but you're not wrong
thorn zenith
It snowballed into that
We went from saying he had no ko moves, we talked about the axe, and now we’re here
glad dagger
i just said i hit it on shaggy nothing about shaggy's options
thorn zenith
Right
Shaggys just bleh to me in general
But sticking a pin in that
I wanna ask u how do you play Jake
Like gimme tips n stuff
glad dagger
idk you have to be less predictable, most jakes just spam punch n stuff
no one uses house for some reason
thorn zenith
I use it in a pinch
glad dagger
every jake wants to go for punch at ledge but don't try to set up into it
thorn zenith
That and I have this move called “the snare” where it’s basically if ur opponent is below you, crit punch em and they’ll bounce up to you allowing you to up air
It works around 100
thorn zenith
Up b is special right
glad dagger
yes
glad dagger
i'd probably say aerial since his ground game kinda sucks
even though his air speed isn't great either
thorn zenith
Yea I prefer air
That’s what I always do
Just stay in the air as much as possible
Like when you’re about to land do something your opponent wouldn’t expect
Dodging up, doing horse, neutral whatever
glad dagger
oh yeah you can also go offstage and down b for an edgeguard since the hitbox is active till the end so its not easy to dodge
thorn zenith
Yea but if they do
Now they’re above you and you’re stuck in whiff frame
(Turning back out of the house)
It’s like Batman’s down b
glad dagger
but worse of course
thorn zenith
Like
Morty syndrome
Aka run away the whole time only fishing for dodge jabs and when you’re at a high enough ko percent use a consistent kill move
glad dagger
i try to reflect grenades when i can, using them against him is actually pretty
fun
do your best to play around dirt that move is annoying af
thorn zenith
Aka run away the whole time only fishing for dodge jabs and when you’re at a hig...
These dudes in general
glad dagger
so like superman?
i think for dodge jabs in general you di and dodge up and away
but its an annoyingly small window
thorn zenith
Yea
glad dagger
playing around it is tough
thorn zenith
True
glad dagger
jake literally only has punch to catch people from a distance
thorn zenith
Mhm
serene lion
kills any light character at 60 lol
Nah dude, I hit a morty with sair (terrain up knock back), both nair, up special then both uair and he survived
Up special doesn’t kill anymore unless ur opponent is kissing the upper ring zone or is 160 hp
Jake last season was a beast compared to this jake, and we thought last jake was bad
wet flicker
So like I do not hate playing as Jake in the current meta. However it does suck feeling neutered compared to last season. The ability to actually fight feels nice but the problem is that I have to work just as hard not or even harder to get the same kills as last season. Definitely even harder compared to before once you learned how to bait people.
crude reef
Jake last season was a beast compared to this jake, and we thought last jake was...
that’s what i’m saying
i actually miss jakes nair
i hate his new nair
making them go downwards
before the change i use to bait people by dodging until they use up both of their dodges in the air
then follow up with up air 1 then u-special into upair again
always killed
can’t do that anymore
i got some clips that i’ll send later
autumn pond
Up special doesn’t kill anymore unless ur opponent is kissing the upper ring zon...
did they nerf it?
wet flicker
did they nerf it?
It knocks down now so it can be more consistent for comboing and being true. also I believe knock back was reduced but the first part is for certain
autumn pond
wdym knocks down
wet flicker
wdym knocks down
direction
autumn pond
skateboard is actually usable now
thorn zenith
yea i dont need it now cuz im not in bed
autumn pond
yea i dont need it now cuz im not in bed
so self righteous
thorn zenith
so self righteous
Thanks
crude reef
It knocks down now so it can be more consistent for comboing and being true. als...
it only knocks down if they are below your buns are hit the side if you’re already stretching
unless you have sticky equipped
then it should send them whatever direction you’re going
glad dagger
idk if you guys are talking about up b or nair
autumn pond
the axe
glad dagger
i miss when sticky was actually sticky
crude reef
sticky kinda sucks
which is why i don’t use it anymore
jake doesn’t have any good perks
i mean he doesn’t have anything good so it makes sense
thorn zenith
sticky kinda sucks
sticky just lets me hit more stuff like in #clips message
because I'm not fast enough to process I got someone
crude reef
sticky just lets me hit more stuff like in https://discord.com/channels/87997080...
i use sticky for the same reason also
but just decided to use the original perk
need all the extra damage and defense i could get
thorn zenith
i use sticky for the same reason also
yknow, you can actually calculate how much extra damage youre doing
just multiply your original damage by 0.05 and add whatever you get
so if i did 320 one match
320 x 0.05 = 16
336
actually no wait im thinking about after the fact
hold on
crude reef
i do NOT know what you’re talking about 😭🙏🗣️
thorn zenith
im doing the math hollon lil boi
ok so from a fully charged neutral grounded you get 15.6
multiply that by 0.05
0.78
so youre basically getting +1 more damage
I can do a sheet comparing with and without it
but my hypothesis is when you equip it you're only going to be doing 0.5-1 more damage than before
vital sonnet
i left is jake fixed yet
autumn pond
jake doesn’t have any good perks
sticky is the only reason jake is good, it's literally a kill confirm
sticky is my main source of knockouts
prepares up air knockouts effortlessly without sticky jake couldn't kill from 0
serene lion
i miss when sticky was actually sticky
On the edge, you can kill anyone at any health if you up special with sticky and they touch ur bottom/ legs. It just stuns them down into the ringout
fading pasture
which is why i don’t use it anymore
well yeah but 5% isnt worth it and bounce house isnt worth it whats the alternative, sticky is best for setups
grim burrow
After a full week of playing I can say Jake in twos is still pretty cracked, but in ones you are fighting an up hill battle still very doable but almost have to be a god at reading opponents
thorn zenith
I’m the fifth Jake to crack masters
And I gotta say
It was easier than before????
I really don’t know what to think of Jake rn idk if he’s good or bad
topaz edge
It was easier than before????
Probably because you started on plat
Like if you just win you get to masters so fast tbh
serene lion
I really don’t know what to think of Jake rn idk if he’s good or bad
Same, my win rate on jake this season is much higher than previous seasons
thorn zenith
Probably because you started on plat
Like if you just win you get to masters so...
Nah cuz like when getting to masters I struggled hard at diamond I
thorn zenith
Now it was just a pushover :p
thorn zenith
Just thought of something, what if Jake could be used as a platform/wall for teammates while doing his up special
Helps in 2s
rare owl
wait theres so many ways they could rework his up special
like what if you stretched into a certain shape and that would trigger a unique attack
or you could circle around a teammate to have them wear the jake suit
ashen echo
Just thought of something, what if Jake could be used as a platform/wall for tea...
he used to save his allies in two's with his stretch
if your ally is knocked out and IS going to die and you stretch behind him before he hits the blast zone it softens slows down his travel BY ALOT
it used to be like that
ashen echo
yea i did it alot
i was really upset
when i tried doing it
and saw that nothing happened
thorn zenith
But yea I feel like they should do something more with his up special
That or the wall/platform thing I proposed
ashen echo
oh yea him turning into a platform of some sort for his ally would be crazy too
imagine the wombo combo potential for that
you kinda turn into an L offstage, your opp fails to climb back, and your ally uses you as a ground to spike them
insane sh*t
willow lance
I really don’t know what to think of Jake rn idk if he’s good or bad
He’s not bad but bro it’s so hard to win in ranked with him this szn he has little to no priority in hits
They need to rework Jake atleast give him priority in exchanges like in 1’s Jake’s almost unplayable
muted lance
How can an ordinary girl like Velma be so much better than a dog with stretchy superpowers who has gone on countless adventures fighting thousands of demonic and ediritch beings
willow lance
Buff Jake 💔 I wanna go back to using my main
fading dust
maybe something
but this only works if they di wrong
and if u have jumps
and then its a 50/50
willow lance
I think that only works on tanks
Last szn the bite on iron giants was so broken I loved it
crude reef
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iKxIHVPCewVTwgrQa/d1337cregRXI?invite=c...
that jason just loves to di into the same moves
crude reef
that’s what i’m sayin
crude reef
sticky kinda sucks
i’ve underestimated sticky
only said it was bad cuz it didn’t really kill off top without sticky
i’ve been using it wrong
oops
also good for usp into upair
if you release it the moment they are stunned
could’ve died at probably like 50 if they didn’t need the knock back to the second move of up air
crude reef
there’s another good way to cheese with bite for a early ko
been out since s2
bite then walk of edge and aim to the wall
gotta be close to it
aim it down
hopefully they get hit by the wall twice
the sair downwards
ez knockout
idk if yall knew this already
just sayin
jovial mesa
does anyone here know how to do that one hammer move in mid air? been wondering how to do it for a while now
serene lion
does anyone here know how to do that one hammer move in mid air? been wondering ...
Press the bite button after neutral air
jovial mesa
Press the bite button after neutral air
ok
serene lion
but u can’t jump/dodge/touch the ground after neutral air or you’ll bite
thorn zenith
jake is like kirby in melee
i cant do squat today idk why
what i find crazy is that most of the cast has a consistent jab into kill confirm around the 120 mark
shaggys is roughly around 100, batmans is near 120, yet jake
jakes is near 150
im testing these on shaggy npcs so
another problem i found about jake is that his "kill moves" are basically just a pray-you-hit-it move
his axe is what im mentioning
a lot of his moves that kill need to be fully charged to hit, meanwhile youll have characters like superman charge up for one second and it sends you to the stratosphere at 110
i understand its superman but the fact he gets armor in 0.2 seconds into charging his up smash
glad dagger
i just don't get why you can dodge out of jake's jab after the first hit so easily
thorn zenith
im more upset about how his kill moves have to be fully charged in order to kill
which leads to having people being built up to 160 until they finally get knocked out by the horse
it also doesnt help that everyones up air (essentially) knocks everyone significantly upwards in one fell swoop
and then theres jakes mace just barely knocking your opponent out of reach for the second hit
some might say "oh then the first hit shouldnt have hit" dude have you seen bugs back end of the bat
glad dagger
the best thing to do for up air is to just up air 1 again
which we kinda shouldn't have to do but i guess they don't want it to be consistent
crude reef
i understand its superman but the fact he gets armor in 0.2 seconds into chargin...
the fact the he literally got armor on most of his moves is infuriating
thorn zenith
the best thing to do for up air is to just up air 1 again
which we kinda shouldn...
ive been trying that and it just happens again
crude reef
plus shaggy sair not fully charged has so much knockback for no reason
can literally kill at 70 if you’re at one side of the map
plus his ground n attack
also has so much knockback
and armor
it’s like they love making this characters op for no reason
while nerfing all the characters that’s desperately needs buffs
thorn zenith
like we dont have any consistent kill moves
glad dagger
jake only gets to kill early off of a punch spike and that's like
heavily read based
doesn't help that for some reason you can dodge a charged move before its even fully out
crude reef
gotta do something with jake’s hurtbox too
i literally died at 19 to a fully charged garnet nattack
because i tried hitting a sair and missed
thorn zenith
and it doesnt help that every single character in this game fishes for jabs because they have no aerial game
its sad
crude reef
jabs are the real combo starters
and most have annoying jab combos
rick, agent smith, superman, ppg
list goes on tbh
got like 3-6 hit combos that could do around 20-50 damage
while jake still lacks in all of that
glad dagger
he wouldn't if he wasn't so slow
autumn pond
He’s not bad but bro it’s so hard to win in ranked with him this szn he has litt...
yeah never play jake in 1's, in 2's he's s tier
autumn pond
jake only gets to kill early off of a punch spike and that's like
heavily read b...
axe into stretch up air
kills at 0
glad dagger
oh yeah i forgot to mention up b
crude reef
they gotta buff jake armor when biting teammates
it’s too short
last for a second
gotta be like ww
glad dagger
i feel like even before it was nerfed your teammate would lose it instantly
autumn pond
i'm feeling the skateboard buff ngl
brittle sphinx
what skateboard buff lol
willow lance
i'm feeling the skateboard buff ngl
What buff?
wet flicker
i'm feeling the skateboard buff ngl
Me too
strange cedar
Sameee
autumn pond
what skateboard buff lol
read the jake patch notes
● Air Down Attack
○ + Now allows fast fall during attack start-up
○ - Now maintains less momentum in the direction opposite Jake’s facing during the attack
○ + Start-up window reduced 2 frames
○ * Fixed an issue where Jake would not always hop on-hit
brittle sphinx
aight bet
prisma flower
Hey Jake mains how are the buffs and nerfs and is this patch a positive or negative change?
crude reef
kinda both positive and negative
unable to jump after biting is negative
and nerfing upair
but some moves feel a lil better now
but jake still needs a lil more buffs tbh
topaz edge
Hey Jake mains how are the buffs and nerfs and is this patch a positive or negat...
Positive for movement, negative for combos, he still needs A LOT of buffs and it's by far the hardest character to make it work against top tiers
Or against better players in general
crude reef
top 16 jake rn let’s go
open agate
Hey guys I cant seem to do the mallet spin
prisma flower
Hey guys I cant seem to do the mallet spin
Just do nair then buffer a neutral special and it should work
open agate
Thanks!
muted lance
Buffer?
brittle sphinx
just do neutral air then neutral special lol
crude reef
jake in diamond rank is literally hell
literally fighting against people in A and S tier with 50 damage combos off of 3 moves
ppg for example
and i rarely get any rp
literally every single move is slow for jake
and his horse literally hits once for no reason
so if they dodge you can’t hit them again while you’re still in it
bs
bleak kettle
hello fellow JJake mains
wet flicker
jake still trash right?
brittle sphinx
so if they dodge you can’t hit them again while you’re still in it
makes 0 sense
bleak kettle
so if they dodge you can’t hit them again while you’re still in it
It's because they alot of his moves more laggier this patch. Like they sped up neutral attack but on whiff it's cancel window is delayed by 8 frames!?
Like awha?
wet flicker
I hate that the kill moves from before aren't reliable anymore. Most characters have that easy go to. Not us, our better one maybe the second upair but that's not reliable anymore and hard to land
bleak kettle
I hate that the kill moves from before aren't reliable anymore. Most characters ...
We basically gotta run weakened perks to make it feel reliable. Frankly our best kill tool now is upair into up special
Jake is the Twelve of MVS. If you played 3rd strike you can see some similarities in their gameplan
wet flicker
We basically gotta run weakened perks to make it feel reliable. Frankly our bes...
Mmm which ones you running? I love playing as Jake but I just hate the feel of him and maybe those perks will help.
bleak kettle
Press the advantage. Most of the time we get them, literally at 125 and over and it kinda works with bite
@wet flicker
brittle sphinx
has any1 here bought the jake 85th skin
if so does horse wear the mask
and house
bleak kettle
Nope.
How does everyone play Jake? What's your playstyle?
I play Jake more like a whiff punisher. Using Nair and up air to keep me floating and moving and then punish accordingly. Get the frustrated and punish being to aggressive
brittle sphinx
i play jake using hopes and prayers that my opponent's controller disconnects
serene lion
How does everyone play Jake? What's your playstyle?
I play Jake more like a wh...
Highly aggressive never using jab or dair
bleak kettle
Highly aggressive never using jab or dair
Lol
short saddle
Highly aggressive never using jab or dair
Lmao
So is there any meta defining tech for Jake that I’m not aware about? Cause idk if it’s just me but Jake has actually gotten to an unplayable tier
waxen bobcat
So is there any meta defining tech for Jake that I’m not aware about? Cause idk ...
nope hes unplayable in 1s and 2s. it sucks
bleak kettle
nope hes unplayable in 1s and 2s. it sucks
I mean he's playable but we're working alot harder and hoping alot of our moves kill
waxen bobcat
I mean he's playable but we're working alot harder and hoping alot of our moves ...
yeah thats kinda what i meant, i classify it as unplayable for me as its a dreadful play style having to hope the enemy just doesnt predict my attack.
bleak kettle
I mean I use Jake's floaty normals to stay airborne and whiff punish. Though I'm basically sweating and coming up short even playing perfect lol
serene lion
unplayable in ranked, I just dominate unranked lobbies tbh
strange cedar
https://youtu.be/WVoLluZQDZQ?si=QHJg-wWDX0sFexry
Is this a ip grabber or hacking link? It says youtu.be instead of youtube.
@bleak kettle
nvm
bleak kettle
It's just Jake doing his dance.
short saddle
I mean he's playable but we're working alot harder and hoping alot of our moves ...
If you are relying on outplaying you opponent in every scenario including advantage state to get damage and relying on will power and defensive estimations with probabilities that are not in your favour, to get kills. Then the character quite literally becomes unusable at higher tiers of play no matter of the level of skill or optimal attack routes
We simply don’t have the frame data or tools to assert our pressure in a threatening way without just straight up being the better player by a significant margin
crude reef
If you are relying on outplaying you opponent in every scenario including advant...
which is literally why it’s so hard to get him into masters and up
when you got literally every other character having good attacks and combos that are reliable
jake just lacks in all of that
bleak kettle
We simply don’t have the frame data or tools to assert our pressure in a threate...
They nerfed the escape time on bite and removed jump so we lost alot of our early kill opportunities while Batman has weaken on Batarang, upair and can run the weakened perks.
Upair follow up got nerfed with less knock back so maps like Dexter's lab beecome a chore to kill and sometines upair into up special won't be enough.
Oh but we got a buff in Neutral attck more knockback on uncharged!!!
....but they made it more laggy and we can't dodge out of it until like 8 frames....
Jake was a roll the dice character imo for the opponent in S2.
If you dodged wrong in a certain scenario Jake put you in, you could die.
If he chomped you then spit you up and you dodged wrong he'd upspecial into up air for a kill.
bitter anvil
Just remove his ass from the game if you want to keep nerfing a bottom 3 character
crude reef
really gotta add jumping back to bite cuz bite little sucks now
don’t even know why it needed to be removed in the first place
unless they are really trying to nerf all his kill potential
bleak kettle
really gotta add jumping back to bite cuz bite little sucks now
It's not just that they lowered the escape time too.
worthy lion
I don’t get the idea of them nerfing Jake so hard like this, this is crazy
it’s so stupid, like I feel so much weaker playing Jake
down attack is fine but everything else now just sucks besides side attack and nair
muted lance
If you lose to a Jake it's time to hang up the towel
crude reef
we really need beta skateboard back
skateboard offstage is unreliable
don’t know why i’m hopping up after hitting them once then try to hit them again
they dodge out of the move
even happens on stage too
bleak kettle
we really need beta skateboard back
What they need to do is let tech happen on the third bounce and not second
That'll fix skateboard
short saddle
it’s so stupid, like I feel so much weaker playing Jake
That’s the appeal of his character as of now, the underdog. In the beta, he had movement and combo tools that quite literally broke the game and had a serious chance of representing this competitive scene as a mess. His moves and overall design has core game physics issues, to the point that the devs need to make sure he is knit picked with detail and held back for now. It’s a good decision on the devs to cater Jake to a more hardcore player base that are ok with losing a lot, it’s so they can know more on what to tune
Some characters gotta be weak and Jake was chosen for being too weird, I’m just happy all of the rest of the cast is quite balanced makes this game super random
brittle jackal
Bad rework idea but instead of his mace swing, Jake's neutral attack acts similar to his fair
Jake essentially uses fair 24/7 so changing his neutral attack might work
or you know make his mace swing and his split kick extend his limbs, the PPG are essentially what Jake wants to be in terms of normals
crude reef
~~or you know make his mace swing and his split kick extend his limbs, the PPG a...
“that’s not ridiculous, that’s not ridiculous to say that”
brittle sphinx
jakes only saving grace
is most people dont fight him
and sometimes when they go up agains a jake
they have no clue what to do
and they fall for the most obvious trap of all time
in up special
now obviously that isnt gonna work against better players
serene lion
Yeaa literally
serene lion
~~or you know make his mace swing and his split kick extend his limbs, the PPG a...
Fr, his legs should stretch out further on splits kick
bleak kettle
they have no clue what to do
Yea alot of players don't know how to fight Jake cause he's not seen often.
thorn zenith
Proposed buffs
- Make Jake’s short up tilt stronger, because it’s meant to be a kill move. It can be balanced weakening the move the more it goes out, which gives it more range over power.
- Make the first upair do less knockback, which can make the second upair more meaningful and register easier.
- Bring back jumping for bite, but make spitting out more horizontal.
- Make Jake’s jab longer, giving him more grounded gameplay.
- Decrease recovery frames on Jake’s skateboard, not enough to punish but enough to give Jake a chance at dodging a punish.
glad dagger
why would they ever do that to up tilt lmao
crude reef
they gotta fix jake’s stupid jab
i’m literally having people dodge out of the second jab
thorn zenith
why would they ever do that to up tilt lmao
Because jake even when having a fully charged axe swing doesn’t kill at high percents
Minus low ceilings
You could just swap out my proposition with like a just increase the knockback power or whatever idc I’m tired
glad dagger
the way it kills really depends on where your opponent is
if they're grounded its not that likely to kill unless its full charged
if they're in the air it kills pretty reliably at 100+
thorn zenith
the way it kills really depends on where your opponent is
if they're grounded i...
And that’s the problem
Most of the time they’re going to be playing grounded
short saddle
the way it kills really depends on where your opponent is
if they're grounded i...
Bruh it’s not about if the opponent is grounded or not, it’s if you tipper the attack or not
Same with sniper punch, if you tipper more damage and knock back
glad dagger
Bruh it’s not about if the opponent is grounded or not, it’s if you tipper the a...
its both in jake's case
bleak kettle
Got the new Jake batman mask and he does not keep it turning into house or horse
So lame
crude reef
it is a uncommon skin after all
glad dagger
we got randy butternubs i think we're good
and cake but the legendary skins are messed up rn
bleak kettle
gotta love the fact Jake has less air momentum on dair 😦
muted lance
and cake but the legendary skins are messed up rn
What do you mean
glad dagger
the skins with different voicelines will have the original characters' noises when hit or ko'd
for example with cake it'll play jake's sounds
covert parcel
i hate pfg
if jake is already bottom 3 what is the point of nerfing his only good moves
are they slow?
shy epoch
I am plat 3 and have never hit diamond, I play with someone who is also plat. Can anyone tell me why I’m being matched up against masters or even grandmasters in some matches?
bleak kettle
I am plat 3 and have never hit diamond, I play with someone who is also plat. Ca...
The MMR is just bad
Just comepletly bad.
I'm in gold getting matched up with Plat's and Grandmasters
drifting swan
games dead
bleak kettle
the fact they could've had the player escape faster if jake jumped off the map
no let's cut jake chomp time significantly in half lol
crude reef
no let's cut jake chomp time significantly in half lol
and let’s remove the ability to jump for no whatsoever reason
i’m tell you they are nerfing all his kill moves on purpose
nerfing up air for no reason
removing jump after bite for no reason
adding teaching so skateboarding into bite is not true anymore
and all his moves are still so damn slow
but hey add a new move for batman and let him be able to do a 7 hit combo easily
brave arrow
i think they are nerfing bite because it was annoying to play against but they dont give him anything in return
crude reef
while jake out here having no combos at all
crude reef
i think they are nerfing bite because it was annoying to play against but they d...
reducing the time when spamming it was good and all
but not being able to jump is stupid
you literally can’t kill with it unless the top zone is short and they are atleast at 120 damage
brave arrow
but not being able to jump is stupid
they dont want him to be able to kill at low percents which is why they removed it
same reason they reduced the time as well
crude reef
they dont want him to be able to kill at low percents which is why they removed ...
yeah but it only killed around 100 when jumping
brave arrow
yeah but it only killed around 100 when jumping
u could combo into a kill at low percents
crude reef
plus you can only use bite like once every 20 seconds
brave arrow
if they are nerfing bite this much they just need to give him a new move and buff the rest of his kit
crude reef
the fact they could've had the player escape faster if jake jumped off the map
i agree with this so much
the amount of times i keep dying because of the stupid thing they added
most of the time i’m not tryna ring myself out with the new bite
the moment i’m boutta spit them out they literally get out of it then i die instead
especially with that new map they added
think it’s called theatre i forgot
but the background is full of stripes
the bottom blastzone is so close
i literally can’t use bite off stage
serene lion
think it’s called theatre i forgot
? That’s the best map for jake bites u can kill at any health by catching them whilst ur on one of the platforms on the edge in 2s only tho
bleak kettle
i think they are nerfing bite because it was annoying to play against but they d...
True jake was able to kill off chomp super reliably but outright gutting the move was quite harsh
They could've just shortened the escape time on the second chomp if done in succession
bleak kettle
u could combo into a kill at low percents
Pickle is right you could go for the double bite high low or go for up special and try to push them to the blast zone or bait a dodge and use Up special to kill them with up air
brave arrow
True jake was able to kill off chomp super reliably but outright gutting the mov...
real i think there was more option than removing jump with it
covert parcel
you literally can’t kill with it unless the top zone is short and they are atlea...
you can near side but even then
covert parcel
How do I play this character
you don’t
muted lance
Feels 50 / 50 with Velma for the worst character in the game but at least Velma has something
And probably more simple to understand than Jake
fresh rapids
Have they STILL not fixed him
covert parcel
Feels 50 / 50 with Velma for the worst character in the game but at least Velma ...
velma is not the worst character lol
jake almost certainly is besides maybe banana guard but atleast banana guard has something going for it
wet flicker
What about those people that say that Jake is balanced? Hmmmm?!?!?
crude reef
What about those people that say that Jake is balanced? Hmmmm?!?!?
they know they lying
probably the same people to play ww or batman and say they are not broken
brittle sphinx
What about those people that say that Jake is balanced? Hmmmm?!?!?
bro thats what im saying that boy mustynobody hes so elegant with his jake
crude reef
bro i literally earned 7 rp after beating someone in the same rank as me
wtf actually
no way
i’m only getting 7 rp after every win wtf
serene lion
i’m only getting 7 rp after every win wtf
https://fixupx.com/ajax_hq/status/1843795069117305082?s=46&t=knLA4k9QJU7_Bjcg-wDGQQ probably has something to do with it
crude reef
i don’t understand
so i’m gaining rp based on the skill of my opponent?
3 different games and won all of them but only got 7 rp for each
annoying
glad dagger
i kept getting 40 rp per match for some reason
easiest master 1 of my life
crude reef
another 7 rp bro..🤦♂️
would’ve gotten out of diamond 3 by now
keep matching me with golds and plat
but even when i’m in the same rank it’s still 7
another 7
i’m done bruh
why am i the only one getting screwed up with garbage rp
bleak kettle
wet flicker
is it safe to be jake again?
topaz edge
is it safe to be jake again?
N O
Until they buff him, pray for a buff on mid season patch fr
brittle sphinx
i kept getting 40 rp per match for some reason
easiest master 1 of my life
yeah its a new change
crude reef
yeah its a new change
then how come i’m getting 7 for every win but lose 19
bleak kettle
So I can start the ladder
I wish you luck in your ladder climb CJ.
I'm hard gatekept in gold by master rank players as a gold lol
woven kite
We should make a new server for jake mains
The current jake server "updog" is dead and the people there are all just old beta players who've quit
glad dagger
i saw a video of someone who went against the current #1 jake player and can i just say his gameplay is so weird
woven kite
i saw a video of someone who went against the current #1 jake player and can i j...
A rick player right?
I seen that too
woven kite
i saw a video of someone who went against the current #1 jake player and can i j...
I was wondering if that guy was trolling
glad dagger
ikr i was genuinely so confused
glad dagger
nah i don't
i can give tips though ig, or if anyone wants to 1v1 for some insight n stuff i'd be down
tbh i don't even think i deserve #3 jake
i wish mustynobody still streamed i wanna know how he does it
thorn zenith
i saw a video of someone who went against the current #1 jake player and can i j...
Bhands yea
thorn zenith
ikr i was genuinely so confused
That’s what Jake has to do
Play so stupid it bamboozles the enemy
glad dagger
most jakes are kinda obvious when they try to edgeguard, that guy included
kept going for the same stuff
brittle jackal
Jake doesn't have too much options for edge guarding imo
glad dagger
he does you just have to be creative like any character
granted they're not the best cause he sucks but i think at this point everyone knows jake wants punch at ledge
and it is most likely his best option but you can't expect to raw punch and get it for free y'know
bleak kettle
granted they're not the best cause he sucks but i think at this point everyone k...
I sometimes do Mace at the ledge if they close to the top or try to dodge past me
serene lion
i can give tips though ig, or if anyone wants to 1v1 for some insight n stuff i'...
IGN?
serene lion
I seen that too
Where
glad dagger
my ign is my server nickname
serene lion
my ign is my server nickname
I added