Jake The Dog

[neon steeple]

EVERY patch they just say they notice that jake is weak and will buff him in the future and then give him nerfs in the patch… always.

This can’t be real lol no way they think Jake’s are still dependant on bite after that previous fat bite nerf

[cosmic meadow]

lol we got Jake nerfs

funny game

[weary verge]

No shot

[mossy linden]

They nerfed Jake’s bite against opponents before and now its teammate use is nerfed too damn

[mossy linden]

“We still feel like Jake has not been performing up to his potential in PvP. We will look to address this more with our midseason update”
midseason update comes
jake nerfs

[cosmic meadow]

lol

[muted lance]

I give up

[brave arrow]

No jake buffs was the last thing I expected this patch

[thorn zenith]

Praise

[grim burrow]

Did I read it wrong? Jake has been underperforming so we nerfed him?

[clear jackal]

Sorry what

What is this

[round bay]

Technically nerfed if you used his armor buff a lot in 2's, otherwise not really changed much this patch.

[mossy linden]

Probably gonna say the same thing next patch

[cosmic meadow]

nah they'll get rid of his bite and give him useless buffs

AND still keep the hurtboxes on his moves :D

[mossy linden]

Welp at least they made reverse horse funnier

[short saddle]

Does the tech mechanic ruin skateboard

[brave arrow]

u cant do three skateboards only 2

[short saddle]

What the hell, how do you get damage from the move then

Is the attack in general only 2 hits now?

[brave arrow]

well u can do 3 skateboards

but u cant combo off 3rd

[glacial violet]

HOW DFID THEY MAKE HIM MORE USELESS

[mossy linden]

my jake wins stopped increasing on my badge since this patch 😍

[ashen echo]

why are they terrified of a character that has always been pathetic

[celest mural]

Did they speed up the game yet

[ashen echo]

they did that on the second and third patch ever

[short saddle]

You obviously didn’t play the beta lmaooo

[ashen echo]

i have my own clips of me playing the beta

and my statement stays

i was top 53

[short saddle]

Then you should know that Jake was busted

[ashen echo]

he wasnt, he was so bad that he could barely land bites back then because of the fast paced combat

so much so that the combo's he had never used bite

and its funny because it used ammo

and nobody used it

the only period, that had jake to be somewhat decent, was when this game released, he could bite as much as he wanted and had a consistent combo, now they took everything from him

[brave arrow]

Jake was top 2 in beta

[short saddle]

Yeah.. honestly idk where that comes from, just because you couldn’t consistently hit bite doesn’t mean Jake was bad, cause his game plan wasn’t centred around bite

[ashen echo]

it wasnt centred around bite yea, but it was a near useless move because everyone was too small and fast, it was a really, really opportunistic move

[short saddle]

His moves linked into each other in true combos, skateboard did 30% and could be looped for more damage, his hurt box didn’t extend for that many frames and all of his moves lingered longer and had wayy less endlag

[short saddle]

Yeah, it’s a cheesy gimmick, it’s good that it wasn’t that usable

[ashen echo]

ye, beta was peak jake, only got worse from there, and its funny that he was strong yet he was one of the lowest pickrates back then too, he always had low pick rate

[short saddle]

Cause you gotta aim, be patient and have really good reaction time, to even play Jake in the beta

Even if he was good, it definitely doesn’t mean he was easy

[ashen echo]

#clips message ig i had both

[short saddle]

meh

[ashen echo]

lol

so that's assuming he's a difficult character

even so he's one the characters that gets his femur broken by nearly every patch the most

so

like

he's one of the hardest characters in the game, has one of the lowest pickrates ever, and they will still destroy his legs, there's no way to defend this atrocity

[brave arrow]

His game plan was around skateboard and sair back then not bite so it didn’t matter that bite was bad

[short saddle]

The devs clearly have a vendetta against Jake

[ashen echo]

even in beta that it was when he was at his peak he was still a mid choice compared to everyone else, he was always the middle child in this lol

[brave arrow]

I believe, next patch Jake will get some changes “ we know Jake is struggling so whiff his sair does 30 damage to himself”

[brave arrow]

Nah def top 3 top 2 character

[ashen echo]

if he was that good why was he a rare matchup

[short saddle]

He literally controlled the pace of every match in the beta

[short saddle]

Cause he isn’t (easy)

[ashen echo]

i thought people tended to lean towards the meta and pick the most broken character out of the bunch to be successful in the game

[brave arrow]

If you look at tourneys he was a common pick

[short saddle]

Also that, I seen him a LOT in tournaments

[brave arrow]

He was one of the few characters immune to Finn and Batman which made him a top tier immediately

[short saddle]

Literally the best 1s player was a Jake

[ashen echo]

ig people in tournaments will surely know how to play

nowadays tho, i saw a livestream of top 1 jake going against one of the best supermans and he lost 3 to 1, and two of those matches he got 3 stocked

he didnt stand a chance

got completely curbstomped

[brave arrow]

I mean the main reason Jake worked in beta is because of how oppressive sair was but now with sair having a hurt box and much less killing power it’s very hard for him to get much done.

He really needs a kit rework

[short saddle]

Finn, yes, Batman I would very much disagree. Jake still had a bit of a priority and an anti airing problem, whilst being a character that doesn’t approach grounded most of the time and Batman’s down special, and up b really snuffed Jake. And especially in the beta where getting hit with a down b means death

[brave arrow]

Yeah that’s why I always say he’s like top 2 bc he still loses the Batman matchup but not as bad as every other character

I remember Jake being a really difficult matchup for Finn back in beta

[clear jackal]

This update is literally a jake nerf

Like

What

[short saddle]

You overrate Batman in my opinion, Batman went even with most of the cast and even losed to characters like Garnet, just because he is so big and light

Plus added to the fact that he had a limited option of unpredictable approach tools, if you broke batterange you controlled neutral

[ashen echo]

yea its funny that it nerfed him in every area

[brave arrow]

Idk I kinda quit the game during beta like after gizmo but I just remember Batman having the best neutral game when I played

[ashen echo]

im currently at training mode to find out what we can even do with this character anymore

oh my god his bite hold the enemy for a whole second now

[short saddle]

Fair, and you are not wrong, but it was only really when he had batterang

[short saddle]

You can hold them for a nano second if you rebite them, Woww

[ashen echo]

bro we cant even charge the spit to its fullest because of the nerf

wtf are they doing

[brave arrow]

I mean yeah even now the matchup for Batman is usually how good you can deal with batarang

[ashen echo]

they literally broke the character mechanic

[brave arrow]

But now he also has dash attk

[clear jackal]

Wait what nerf

[ashen echo]

ending the skate streak will make him susceptible to punish

[clear jackal]

Character or combat

[ashen echo]

his own moves gives him punish window to his opps

what the f*ck is this

[brave arrow]

You cant combo off 3 skates now only 2

[ashen echo]

you can do 3 but on the third one they recover really, really fast

literally insta

[brave arrow]

Yep it’s kinda worthless to do the 3rd

Might be able to dash attk read but I havent gotten anything yet

[ashen echo]

what i found out tho is that u can land 2 skates, nair, up special and do whatever u want

[clear jackal]

Lowkey no point playing until they buff him

[short saddle]

Well.. now he as arguably the best dash attack that’s only countered by jumping and an incontestable up special, so I feel like batterange now is just an appetizer

[ashen echo]

or two skates, upair bite

or two skates upair upspecial

[brave arrow]

Well some characters jab can beat it so it just really depends but yeah his dash attk is very strong

[short saddle]

Not true

[ashen echo]

literally just did it

will send the clip

[brave arrow]

It’s prob diable

[ashen echo]

this one i mean, hold on i'll do the upair upspecial again

[short saddle]

The dummies don’t DI and they aren’t even developed right when dodging, sometimes they just don’t do it. Skate board into up air is like true on big characters with bad dodges, but mid sized characters have enough time to dodge out

I could be wrong tho, maybe I’m not doing it perfectly

[ashen echo]

#clips message

anyways, the sair combo now is sair, bite and then u do something of choice

or sair and nair

sair and upspecial

because if u sair and skate they will immediately dodge

[neon steeple]

I mean u can still combo off 3rd skateboard if u guess which way they tech

[short saddle]

True

[ashen echo]

cant they immediatelly fight back as soon as they tech

[brittle jackal]

Beetlejuice Jake has no reason to look this good

[honest arch]

NERFS

WHAT

[muted lance]

He became so bad that he died

[mossy linden]

Fr, jake skins always eat

[ashen echo]

the character itself is always malnourished tho

[thorn zenith]

shark hat is eh

the worst of the bunch, but its not by much

[ashen echo]

the skate doesnt work, u cant bop even the second time

and there's no follow up to it

[brave arrow]

Nah u can follow up on 2 skates

3 skates auto techs

[ashen echo]

mid match it doesnt work

[brave arrow]

I’ve landed it mid match

[ashen echo]

i tried doing the combo i did on the dummy, the skate only bops once and it shoots me up so high that the enemy just walks out of it

its ridiculous

[brave arrow]

Jake is still really trash tho

Maybe try holding down

[ashen echo]

some thinks they wont escape and then they just walk out

[ashen echo]

yea that's what i do, but u only hit the second one if u skateboard low

high up the second does not connect

you dont need to be a sherlock holmes to find out that someone in the dev team hates jake

those are some unreasonable nerfs

its so f*cking obvious

yea

im done defending it

they keep f*cking up so badly

its impossible to side with it

this is their first game

which is why this is damned

really sad that such a cool concept is on the hands of these guys

who dont know sh*t about developing

also

they claimed on livestream

that neurals one ups jabs

i neutral a arya stark jab and lost

because my mace take f*cking ages to come out

no they have to revert this sh*t today

they killed jake

fr this time

tbh that do seems easier to fix than a whole ass mechanic script

he can jab jab down tilt

now

with consistency

but that's all

lmao

[mossy linden]

I unbinded that shi ong😭

[ashen echo]

talk about useless

the urge to burn the house of ppl that makes those type of changes ruining completely the experience for everyone

after i heard the news of the update yesterday, i got concerned and sad

it was the first time i've ever felt like that for a update for any game ever

it legit felt like reading a suicide letter

damn that couldn't be said any better

[eternal bridge]

"Jake has been underperforming for a while"
nerfs him

????????

what did they possibly mean by this

[ashen echo]

if you read the patch notes, he wasnt even nerfed, the game's mechanics got nerfed, which were mechanics that he relied on

the problem is that they dont playtest. F*cking idiots they are

[eternal bridge]

am i able to even count "– Armor duration from eating an ally reduced to 1.5 seconds from 4.0 seconds " as a nerf

sheesh

[ashen echo]

its like trying to help a handicap with a wheelchair when they already had a prosthetic, and then u get rid of their prosthetic

it's f*cking ret4rded

[eternal bridge]

im not rocking with the "we recognize this character's flaws but we will buff them LATER" approach

thats super annoying

[ashen echo]

and those updates takes weeks to come out, when they fix jake i'll be so burnt out from the bullsh*t

[eternal bridge]

especially since in this same patch, rick as changed pretty substantially to make his overall gameplan less jab dependent

its super weird

[ashen echo]

talking about jabs

in the livestream they said that neutrals have priority over jabs

jakes neutral wins against no jabs at all

not even against himself

because it takes ages to windup

[eternal bridge]

your ground options are either slow and telegraphed or

slow and telegraphed

except dtilt i guess

[ashen echo]

he literally first spawns the mace, takes momentum do swing it, jumps a lil and then it lands

it will never win against a jab

[eternal bridge]

is it all grounded normals that take priority over jab or just neutral??

[ashen echo]

its just neutral grounded that beats jab

[eternal bridge]

thats weird but i think i kinda get it?

[ashen echo]

i got jabbed out of my puffin

or it's just jakes fault

that his neutral air has 0 priority

against everything and everyone that moves

[eternal bridge]

tbf jake has a really good nair

[ashen echo]

his nair is so dogsh*t that they said that they would remove clashing, but then his nair is so horrid that or it loses in priority, OR IT STILL CLASHES

[eternal bridge]

im trying not to doompost but

yeah this is horrible

[ashen echo]

Nah nah i got u

i have been

defending this game

with all the pride i had, but patch after patch

this gets

uhh

ridiculous

i literally told yall on update one, ''they shouldnt touch jake, cuz if they do they'll break him''

here we are

[ashen echo]

saying this cuz on first update ppl were saying he was trash, little did they know they had gold in their hands

now they are stuck with copper

nah im chill tho

cuz they will have to revert this

this will be solved

everyone is sh*tting on the game rn, they have to solve this

the fact that they thought about , planned, and even then, THEY STILL executed, the idea of nerfing a mechanic on which a character's rely on

is beyond me

it wont

it wont and im so sad it wont

it was legit the only fighting game that ever gave me joy

but its being handled by morons

not to mention alpha, when only content creators had access

failures like these is what gives me fuel to develop games

i see it as trying to hold back a characters flood

y'know

like samurai jack

and i like the idea

i dont want to be fighting a monster of a character that just released when they also just crippled my character again

yea they didnt, but as my opinion stands i dont care

yea

ig they also found otd's

[iron vine]

can i join the jake doom posting too

[ashen echo]

man i really didnt want to doom post but this update almost put tears in my eyes

they are slaughtering a game i love

this is the most perfect platform fighter crossover ever, and it's in the state its in

[iron vine]

the devs needed to stop taking away cool things you can do and give you more ways to counter cool things people can do

like the only defensive mechanic is dodging so anything that you cant dodge out of gets gutted

[ashen echo]

which is why the gutted ricochet

[iron vine]

yeah and jakes bite

like i got the hit and i get punished for it

bite was not even that good

[ashen echo]

which is bite cuz they cant dodge out of it still

what changed is that we cant hold them for a second anymore

will only have setups if u are in a good position already

which is rare

cuz to bite u need a setup already

[iron vine]

wall combos are not even that good but nobody knows you can di off wall bounces

if people learnt that the bite into bite was not a true combo

[ashen echo]

they knew

high elo's knew

im a diamond jake and they always dodged out of it

they just dont dodge if i bite and spit them into the walls of the under arena and then bite backwards

they never dodged that

i also fought ppl with common sense in 1's that when i first did bite chain they learnt to never fall into it again

losing to jake was always a matter of skill issue

[iron vine]

true

the way they tried to buff him was also so bad

like the buffs bearly did anything

[ashen echo]

it's late to end season, they'll patch him

if they dont, damn their game

[iron vine]

then they give velma the best changes ever

[ashen echo]

the fact that now she has an OTD is F*CKING BEYOND ME

[iron vine]

jake gets his hammer nair changed to an equally bad special move that cant combo anyone other than iron giant

why

[wet flicker]

jake buffs when?

[iron vine]

whats backwards horse?

how do you do that?

i mean ill take anything at this point

whats the differences?

is it just a visual thing?

yeah yeah

i guess thats kinda useless

yeah if i only played jake i wouldnt play at all lmao

he was so sick in the beta skateboard was awesome

[wet flicker]

hes just a homie. not sure why this resonated so hard with you

[iron vine]

yeah up b was sick

[ashen echo]

YE

[wet flicker]

Sapo

make me a baddie

[ashen echo]

tf

[wet flicker]

cmon mr frog

got to plat with harley now to plat with jake

[ashen echo]

the fact that it's not even a tech, the game literally does it for you

someone at PFG f*cking suck's, and they are adding those braindead changes because they are horrid

they hated getting comboed so they removed ricochet

lmao

LMAO

i wish the devs saw these roasts

they deserve it badly

[wet flicker]

just give me more jake skins to buy

[ashen echo]

names their company players first

[wet flicker]

imma gonna freakin buy it anyways

[ashen echo]

doesnt put the players first

laughable

[wet flicker]

give me money first

[iron vine]

i keep timing myself out by saying the f word

im complaining too hard

but still what are they doing why cant you let the characters have good stuff

top tiers have stuff way better than bite and they gut bite by making it stop working when you hit the move

why am i being punished for landing my attacks

[ashen echo]

that's mostly his dair because of the stupid amount of endlag

u land it but the endlag of the skate is so big that u get ducked in the face for landing it

[iron vine]

dair is still not fixed for no reason i hate it

if the opponent is 1cm high from the ground it wont have enough knockback to ground bounce

and your still stuck doing the move

[ashen echo]

that's what im talking about

u'll land it and then get punished

[iron vine]

and you also cant use it off stage

like if you miss your dead

and if you miss it too low you just die outright

[ashen echo]

ye lmao

[muted lance]

I genuinely think they don't know what to do with this character

[iron vine]

you get your one bite per 30 seconds as the only thing that can combo and pray they run into sticky up b

[ashen echo]

like i always said, and there was still people who disagreed, jake is a opportunistic character that depends on the other's mistakes to thrive

but there's still dogsh*t people that will ask for nerfs on him

like how bad do you have to be to lose to a character that has no insec tool

and no spike

[iron vine]

yeah he can kill you at 20 with a perfect up b but if you know about it you can avoid it 100% of the time

[ashen echo]

the neat part about it is that it isnt true

[mossy linden]

Armor duration was nerfed quite heavily and ally no longer performing their attack is quite a detrimental change ngl

[ashen echo]

which is why i said they nerfed the mechanics jake relied on, it was a huge collateral nerf

[mossy linden]

The way you said “he wasn’t even nerfed” even tho he was just confused me

[ashen echo]

if u finished reading that same sentence u would have understood

jake wasnt nerfed at all, the mechanics that he 100% depends on got nerfed

[mossy linden]

How wasn’t jake nerfed at all when his armor duration from bite has been decreased that’s a jake nerf

[ashen echo]

read patch notes

[mossy linden]

General

• Fixed an issue where Jake’s neutral dodges were not playing their ending animations
  Air Down Attack
  ~ A floor bounce incurred from the first hit of this attack will not count towards the automatic tech bounce threshold
  Air/Ground Neutral Special
  – Armor duration from eating an ally reduced to 1.5 seconds from 4.0 seconds (nerf,no?)
  ~ Eating an ally now interrupts their current action

[muted lance]

That's a nerf to the armor boost he gives to an ally

Unless you refuse to play 2v2

[ashen echo]

ah the armor, my friends told me about that, tho i dont play 2v2

so idc

[mossy linden]

I only play 2v2, the armor is good for jake too.. well was

[mossy linden]

Ah fair enough

[muted lance]

That is such a shame

[ashen echo]

yea but aside from that he wasnt really nerfed

but jesus christ

did he get gutted

[mossy linden]

Yea, was a shame tho because hopes were high for buffs since they said last patch they’d buff him this patch and didn’t

[hard trout]

Can Jake stop catching strays :tears:

Not only did they not buff him, they slightly made him worse with no counterbalance. ayo what Jake is out here going crazy, stop lying to these devs!

[ashen echo]

slightely

are you kidding

you do realise that this update murdered him

right

he has no combos no more

[hard trout]

oh absolutely

the only "combo" he has is a read down-angled sair into upair

[ashen echo]

cant even call that a combo, its just a follow up, but its the closest thing he has to a combo

[hard trout]

lmao exactly! they cookin this dog

[ashen echo]

can sair down into bite too

[hard trout]

yeah but if you do, depending on height, you might hit the floor, get that landing animation that takes forever, and a solid masher can get out long before then

like dang! give em something pleeease

[ashen echo]

also his skateboard got nerfed horridly, they didnt add it in the patch notes

[hard trout]

😮 ?! explain

[ashen echo]

but if u land skateboard on top of their hurtbox u cant land a second one

u have to skateboard inside their hitbox to land the second one

[hard trout]

wait what?? no way

bro come on, i swore i noticed that earlier too, but i thought i was seeing things

[cosmic meadow]

lol did they nerf the bite time on Jake

cause it feels that way

[hard trout]

absolutely

[cosmic meadow]

wild

[ashen echo]

also u have to cancel the second skateboard leap fast as possible cuz if they dodge it u will be stuck in it's endlag animation, which will make u vulnerable

for landing a attack

how pathetic is that

[hard trout]

At this point, what is the goal of Jake? like what is it you think they want him to do, what role they want him to be?
can't be a zoner, he has a hurtbox on his fist, so he's just as vulnerable up close as from afar hitting sair.
can't be a grabber , bite nurfed. too slow for combos, what he do ?

[cosmic meadow]

a sitting duck

[ashen echo]

he'd categorize as a juggler ig, keeps bashing and cheesing with no consistency until the opponent perishes

or he does

[iron vine]

he sucks at juggling too though

if your too high up air cant hit twice

[ashen echo]

which is 90% of the cases

[hard trout]

that really is all he got huh? upair cheese on people who can't dodge away! stop dodging into the upSpecial people

[ashen echo]

not even the right opportunities can save him anymore

he's a opportunistic character that cant use opportunities

[iron vine]

only thing he has is the super unreliable up air up b combos

[ashen echo]

insane

[iron vine]

which are all di mix up dependent because of how narrow all his attacks are

[ashen echo]

yea

all of his ''combos'' depends on the lack of braincells of the opponent

[hard trout]

😦 well, i'm sad, but i'm still gonna play em, cause he wiggles around

[ashen echo]

me too

just not ranked

i got to diamond with him yesterday

im top 30

i wont let nerfs throw me down

[ashen echo]

#clips message peak example

[celest mural]

Just havent played the game for months because of how bad they gutted this character

He was the only character i enjoyed playing too

Months later and no buffs is crazy

[ashen echo]

speaking of gutting he might as well have no insides now

they finished him off with this update

[celest mural]

Idk why they hate jake so much

[ashen echo]

Someone on the dev team sucks so they took everything from him

[clear jackal]

I just don't get why they NERFED him

Like

Surely it's not that hard to see that he's been terrible for the entire full release

[thorn zenith]

The thing was about Jake, he was so good in beta because everyone was fast, including attack speed. But now that we’re in full release, everything is slowed down which made Jake SUPER SLOW on release.

[serene lion]

Jake is hot garbage

Probably how the devs want him to be tbh

[copper pawn]

The devs hate Jake

Which sucks because if he’s was buffed, he would probably be the best character

[modern kettle]

why did they nerf him MORE

he was my main in beta i own damn near all of his skins 😭😭

i mean he isn’t TOO garbage if you really know how to play him but damn is he a tough matchup against annoying fast characters

i can’t tell if the devs love or hate adventure time because they keep adding characters but they just nerfed both finn and jake into the dirt

jake’s moveset is so slow and predictable and easy to counter for literally everyone on the roster

it’s sad!!! he used to be a beast

i used to be a top 100 jake now i consistently lose every god damn match

[ashen echo]

i do get the impression that they dislike adventure time, which's a damn shame cuz it made my childhood, but then they are butcherin my buddy ):

[wet flicker]

wait I was hearing that they nerfed the off stage bite stuff lots of people were doing to climb

I never got it down but I dont recall them nerfing bite outside of them groaning about it not being what they want from jake

[mossy linden]

I think so, I never used bite in that way but if I hit a bite straight after biting them before they will just leave jakes stomach straight away.

Are there any other characters in the roster who aren’t allowed to use one of their moves twice in a row? This is lowkey insane

[carmine lotus]

I didn’t notice there was chats for each character

Does anyone think that Jake didn’t deserve a nerf ? If anything he may need a buff

[leaden axle]

Lol scroll up and itll answer your question

[ashen echo]

some found a way out to still perform it, like finn, they tried getting rid of his otd by unlinking his moves but if you try harder using dodge bar etc... u can still accomplish it

[ashen echo]

the only nerf he got was in 2's, his armor lasts for 1 and a half second now

he's horrid now because they added the tech mechanic

[mossy linden]

What true combos does jake have now

[ashen echo]

none

he only has moves that links into each other

like sair and then bite

but that's all

[wet flicker]

How much harder is bite into bite now? Cause honestly it feels like bite hold time is way shorter and I am thrown off by it too since I can't keep them in as long. Jake just feels worse than before the patch now. Kinda gonna go back to Harley only until they change it or I just try again and get more success

[ashen echo]

you cant bite into bite, as soon as u bite the second time, they'll jump out

[wet flicker]

Ughhh terrible.

[glacial violet]

why did they make it so that u can grab jakes punch its so stupid

[neon steeple]

Jake The Dog

0 combos, slow, unnecessary hurtboxes on every attack, can’t use one of his attacks twice in a row, 0 projectiles, armor only in 2s (nerfed)

[glacial violet]

also his auto combo can get dodge out of, skateboard can get dodged out of, and his up air can get dodged out of

oh yeah also the only character that cant hit through a surface

[ashen echo]

it doesnt hit through, its just that if he punches the edge but slightely slide off the arena mid punch, the hitbox will still be active and will hit the opp, the opposite can happen too

[frail narwhal]

not being able to follow up after skateboard now is bs

it should not auto tech after one skateboard lmao

[glacial violet]

did they nerf bite more

why do i have less than a second to use it first bite

[ashen echo]

they nerfed it yea

[glacial violet]

thats so dumb

of course jake is underpreforming all of his moves are slow as hell and take damage and no combos

[grim terrace]

Double bite nerfed up the ass

[brittle jackal]

So I fought against a Beetlejuice player and the initial matchup though is that he's another fighter that can gatekeep Jake and another nair 2 win.

Beetlejuice isn't overpowered though and I did win the match but the BJ player didn't rematch

[wet flicker]

why do the devs hate jake?

[ashen echo]

someone on the team has personal beef with it

that's for sure

[glad dagger]

taking away double bite is fine but nerfing it and giving nothing to compensate till "future patches" is a pretty dumb decision

[mossy linden]

Nice

[thick estuary]

because bro ariel’s reach across half the map, his recovery covers half the screen, horse feels uncontestable with any melee move, shall I go on?

[zinc tiger]

damn bruh😭

why you hate jake so much

[ashen echo]

''horse feel uncontestable'', brother

what do you even play

everything in his kit, he'll either lose the trade or clash

even jabs

horse you can just jump over it and spike it

idk everything you just said screams skill issue

you will never understand the struggle with the character until you atleast get it to level 10

everything you claim will only be understandable if u use reindog

[thick estuary]

with melee moves yes

[ashen echo]

You can legit jab them out of horse

That's how pathetic his move is

[thick estuary]

not in my experience 😭

[ashen echo]

then its with a heavy heart that'll present you the bad news, u are diagnosed with skill issue

i was jabbed in the face as a horse by batman

harley

morty

everyone from the roster

[ashen echo]

and about his sair, it can be exploited to oblivion by his opps

literally they'll just dodge into it to punish u because the endlag is insane

or they'll jump and hit it

you came here to kick a dead dog, he poses literally no threat at all and if you are losing to jakes even after he got butchered then you seriously need to get better

[ashen echo]

#clips message

[glacial violet]

all of his moves especially the horse can be contested 😭

[ashen echo]

the epitome of skill issue

[wet flicker]

I use baxter from time to time and only really for speed. It can be kill sometimes but it really gets countered fairly easily

[ashen echo]

he hasnt been talking cuz he knows he' f*cked up with those arguments

[thorn zenith]

then tell me why hes low tier

[mossy linden]

Jack is notorious for this

[mossy linden]

Who do u play

[grim terrace]

top 10 jake in 2s and now i just get fkn slammed in every 1v1

2s is manageable cause u can use teamwork to get ringouts with the bite still

1s is unplayable as jake ngl

[ashen echo]

what is of a character if it cant stand up for itself

he should be at least decent to be able to handle 1's

[grim terrace]

i think the play is now bite into neutral air neutral air special (the spin move)

after watching #1 jake as of late

hella kb

[ashen echo]

yea nair is going to be a good replacer for the second bite as its another really close range move

i've done it before

[brave arrow]

ive been having success with triple board and nair as a read

[ashen echo]

wouldnt that burn stamina

[brave arrow]

wdym

neither of those moves use stamina

its good for when bite is on cooldown

[ashen echo]

to follow up from skateboard into nair

after the skateboard they tech away, so to follow them u have to use stamina

[brave arrow]

no u dont

the tech usually doesnt take them that far

[ashen echo]

how are you setupping the skateboard

[brave arrow]

usually by ledge

now that i think about it if they roll after tech or are mid screen then u have to use meter but so do they so its kinda worth

[ashen echo]

its worth it if they use it too?

we are still a jake in the situation, and they are not

[brave arrow]

for me its the best option out of skate board bc if they keep dodging i can only do one nair or if they mash i can commit to the spin after

again this is if you have no bite, bite is still better to do for damage

[thick estuary]

rick

[glad dagger]

i tend to not do the third hit of skateboard just so i can combo off it without having to read a tech

[ashen echo]

or you can simply bounce twice then bite....lol

[brave arrow]

nah i feel like its not worth if the bite is on cooldown

[brave arrow]

i do this when i have bite

when i dont have bite i do three boards

[ashen echo]

then if its on cooldown simply nair then upair

guh

or even upspecial

there's many followups, letting them tech is like

a huge last resort move

[brave arrow]

i feel like my nair upair followups havent been landing

maybe im just doing it wrong

[ashen echo]

there's a correct way to do it yea

circumstantial too

[brave arrow]

do you know what percent it stops/starts working

[ashen echo]

mid percentage, i just did against a black adam

around 10-20 it starts working

then it works for the rest of the match until u kill him

[brave arrow]

i mean black adam has a huge hitbox though so thats prob why it works that long

hurtbox*

[ashen echo]

i just did it against a jake too

i'll try to find the moment and clip it

[brave arrow]

yeah but i meant like when is it guaranteed

[ashen echo]

it will start working pretty soon, u just have to build their damage up to at least 20 and then it will work for any percent beyond that

but you have to land it

[brave arrow]

its true?

[ashen echo]

cuz on high percentages they'll just get shot past you, so its recommended that in high percentages you bounce twice then upair

[muted lance]

Why is it that the one character I enjoyed playing as in the Beta ends up being the worst character in the full release

[ashen echo]

wont last forever, they said jake will be fully addressed next patch

[leaden axle]

They said that last time. It better be some Velma level changes cuz shes kinda fun now lol

[neon steeple]

Ong

[frail canyon]

i would be happiest if they removed the stupid hurtboxes from his fists

[neon steeple]

Jack side special just reminds me of a heavily broken version of Jake’s sair

[brittle jackal]

Jake's dair should be a small exception for the tech system since the move is garenteed to make the enemy do it when the move was fully landed

It pretty much forces a tech chase situation now

[thorn zenith]

I give up with jake dude

im top 12 with him and im on a losing streak

"Oh he has the busted side air" its dodged half the time.
"Oh his bite" we cant suicide anymore
"Oh his combo game" What combo game???
"His Mallet is powerful" THE ONLY THING WE REALLY HAVE
"He's fun to play!" Doesn't matter when hes unplayable
"Jake is too fast" Check the frame data
"Iron Giant is cake to him!" IG is cake to everyone due to his size
"He counters rushdown characters" They work on your whiffs
"He can zone out players" He gets zoned out half the time

player first games what a joke

"we'll address it in another update!" the update comes and you give the bite a nerf.

playerfirstgames! not the dog because a dog is not a player or person!

i tried to enjoy jake pfg but you gutted the only fun character in the game and left all the emos to ayra and batman

no one is as unique as jake and hes completely jake the dog####

make him faster maybe?????

and maybe not have jakes down special be THE ONLY MOVE THAT CANNOT BE CANCELLED OUT OF

i mean you can cancel out of iron giants down special, batmans, hell even garnet

but when it comes to jake no he has to manually wait to get out of the animation

"jakes too oppressive" HAVE YOU SEEN TAZ ON THE LEDGE

the only thing i want

right now

is just a PROMISE

from PFG

that theyre working on jake

lied once but lie again and so help me lord above

[glad dagger]

if jake could cancel out of horse and house that'd be sick actually

[grim burrow]

anyone use the bounce perk for jake? any good?

[ashen echo]

you cant cancell horse either

[ashen echo]

if he could cancell dair, sair and down special would be crazy enough

would already make him B tier

[fading pasture]

could work as a second house bind lwk

[fading pasture]

they are working on jake

nonstop

to make him shittier every patch

[muted lance]

I'm not even joking right now

I'm losing faith in this game squarely because of how they're treating Jake

[ashen echo]

i just tried 2's with him and im getting constantly stomped on because i cant combo

its f*cking disgusting how broken they made jake, they literally broke him, they broke the only mechanic he relies on and broke his bite, so much so that u cant even fully charge spit

[muted lance]

when's the apology update for killing the coolest character in the game

[ashen echo]

they wont address sh*t on next patches because those devs clearly dislikes jake

the addressing will be them making it so the upair shoves them so high up that you wont be able to hit the second upair
and making it so his sair has four more circles of hurtbox ahead of his hitbox

and will give it 2x more windup and 2x more endlag

[muted lance]

😔

[thorn zenith]

PFG please we jakes are starvin out here

[grim terrace]

Help thje Jakes PFG

pls

[ashen echo]

next season only

i doubt they will address him this season

[glad dagger]

like even the #1 jake was getting frustrated with it, that's how you know it's bad

[mossy linden]

#clips message bite is sooo useless how did bro die

[grim terrace]

got back to top 10 today

matchmaking is kinda busted

[ashen echo]

I give up on the game until they fix this mess

[thorn zenith]

Yeah I’m #15 and I have never IN MY ENTIRE TIME PLAYING THIS GAME have I felt more frustration since this patch

Like how are you going to indirectly nerf Jake then give him a nerf breaking your sad excuse of a promise

Like how am I gonna trust pfg now when you said last update it’d be addressed this update

Were you like too busy with the costumes that take 5 mins to make because it’s just recolors??

Like VELMA and REINDOG have more privilege than Jake

Jake is the worst character yet most creative

“Underperforming” is right better be your first priority when this next update drops

Because so help me if you gut him pfg

I’m done complaining how was y’all’s day

[ashen echo]

well based on the time of that message i'll assume that was yesterday

and yesterday was sh*t because i couldnt enjoy the character at all

i spent the whole gameplay complaining

[grim terrace]

Yo @brittle sphinx I got top 5 Jake today

[mossy linden]

Is everything okay bro

[wet flicker]

I'm real annoyed by the nerf to Jake while they gave us nothing in return. The whole time not even mentioning the nerf in their patch notes

[brave arrow]

any jakes want to 1v1

[quaint sparrow]

Hello guys I'm working on a YouTube video and basically I'm trying to figure as each community what you think is the best and worst skin is for your character

[mossy linden]

Best matrix
Worst tooniverse

[quaint sparrow]

really??

for Jake?

what about Cake

or jake the star child

[mossy linden]

Not rly a fan of cake personally but star child is dope but I just like matrix the most, mainly because of how he looks when he’s doing attacks

[brave arrow]

Star child or Randy butternubs

[wet flicker]

[ashen echo]

this is the most healthy jake chat convo i've ever seen

anything besides that is just suffering

[brave arrow]

Christmas sweater is pretty clean too

Agreed

Imma be honest I don’t see the hype around fionna and cake as characters

The max show was good but I still think they are worse versions of Finn and Jake

I mean yeah after I watched the show whenever their episode came up just skipped them lol

I always just found them boring and kinda shallow if that makes sense

Tbh I don’t really know

The max show actually gave them a personality but before that I couldn’t really tell you

I mainly watched it bc Simon was a main character

Finn is in it

But he doesn’t get much screen time

[wet flicker]

Hmmm

[brave arrow]

Real

Distant lands really exceeded my expectations though

Same with fionna and cake but I agree the franchise should be done

Wait it’s actually coming back

[quaint sparrow]

Thank you for a real answer 💀

Matrix Jake is a little mid

[brave arrow]

Like adventure time and regular show era was peak cn but they need to make better shows instead of bringing back the old ones

I haven’t watched much cn anymore but have they made any new shows as popular as those

[worthy lion]

best: randy butternubs
worst: toon

[muted lance]

We're gonna kick some butt and look good doing it too

[glad dagger]

we gotta get a zombie jake for halloween

[muted lance]

And Milk Man Jake

There is no shortage of variants for Finn and Jake

[glad dagger]

heck maybe even just jake with joshua's hat

[brave arrow]

Lumpy Jake would be funny

[mossy linden]

It’s called an opinion tiny bro (what he asked for)

[ashen echo]

i dont think it's the same personalities, well at least based on their first appearance on adventure time, they were constantly looking for relationship,and as far as i know, jake and finn personalities aint about finding someone to love

these times were so good that people nowadays are still in denial that it ended (that includes me) so they encourage to bring old shows back

[faint idol]

He could just jump up and use it. It was kind of like wonder woman’s attack in the air with armor break. Not very much range like hers too. They used it like every time they jumped to kind of protect themselves and I never saw it before

I was thinking it might be like a skateboard perk but I don’t see that either

Yea

Okay I just made it happen in training thank you lol I had no idea it existed

[worthy lion]

what

OH

i rember

that would actually be a crazy funny skin lol

id use it

[brittle sphinx]

Yo

[ashen echo]

ice ninja jake

thief jake

crazy jake

[brittle sphinx]

Cake is still the best skin in the entire game fr

[brave arrow]

No

[brittle sphinx]

No

[clear jackal]

Yay another nerf

[midnight laurel]

did they nerf him more?? patch notes didn’t say so

then again they didn’t say much last patch either when they gutted him

[leaden axle]

They just removed the backwards horse thing. Which was a bug.

[neon steeple]

Season 2 patch
“We still feel like Jake has not been performing up to his potential in PvP. We will look to address this more with our midseason update”

mid season patch
Addresses nothing
“Jake has been underperforming for a while We are looking to evaluate some quality-of-life buffs for a future patch”

nerfed

future patch (todays)
nothing
My quality of life has decreased by 85%

[thorn zenith]

Are you JOKING

I’m WHEEZING HARD

[glad dagger]

guys since they fixed the voice lines they also added some back
jake says "JAAAMES BAXTER" again

that in itself is a w

[thorn zenith]

Oh awesome

Honestly that was another thing I was upset about

Jake lines not going though

[glad dagger]

he's got some new lines too

[brave arrow]

Jake is s tier now

[glad dagger]

also i don't think they removed backwards horse just fixed the broken animation

[leaden axle]

oh nvm then

[glad dagger]

dair feels kinda different too
shadow buffed?

[thorn zenith]

Really??

Pfg answered our prayers???

[glad dagger]

still has the tech on third hit but it comes down a lot faster

and fastfalling with it feels really good

[glacial violet]

this is like the bare minimum

why does it feel like im dying easier if my opponent hits my punch

[astral stratus]

speaking of dair, new dair "tech"

if u jump and dair at the same time u go FLYING

like its crazy how high u go

[thorn zenith]

Send an example in #clips

Ping me with it

[mossy linden]

Yeah I did this on accident, actually a useful “tech”

[glad dagger]

ok wtf he really can fly

yeah they def changed it
before you could do it vertically by dodging but now you can't
instead its this

[thorn zenith]

So is this a good or bad

[mossy linden]

It’s good

U can do it on both jumps too

Go extra extra high

[thorn zenith]

And here I thought we only had an animation fix

[glad dagger]

makes it a bit harder to do dodge dair for reads but you really don't have to use dair anyway

so overall pretty good

seems good for a recovery mixup

[mossy linden]

We demand buffs and we get given a moonwalk horse and a flying skateboard 😭

[thorn zenith]

Better than nothin right

[mossy linden]

Certainly

[thorn zenith]

JAKE IS BACK

I CANT BELIEVE IT

thank you so much pfg

[ashen echo]

what

what happened to him

[thorn zenith]

just play him

hes so fun now

[glacial violet]

they fixed his dair thats all lol

you still cant combo tho

[ashen echo]

his skate feels weird

jake didn't change sh*t

[ashen echo]

fun

if you count not being able to land anything fun

you must be experiencing plenty of joy

[thorn zenith]

I AM

[ashen echo]

he's still dogsh*t

so far what's good is that he has new lines now

''jake is back'' he's f*cking not

[mossy linden]

😂😂

#clips message

[thorn zenith]

ok whiney baby

[ashen echo]

you said he's back when none of what we had is back

you idiot

[thorn zenith]

ok turd

[ashen echo]

you called me a whiney baby and then because of it, i called you a idiot for it, you call me a turd

what are you

9?

[thorn zenith]

im 17

[ashen echo]

then it's about time you learn respect, just because you are comfortable behind your screen doesnt mean you get to insult people over nothing

[brave arrow]

Bros talking about respect in a mvs server shut up nerd

Turd *

[ashen echo]

bro this could be a server about uno, respect is still the same everywhere

and i talked to you before i thought you were nice

[brave arrow]

U literally just got mad bc he called u a turd bro, I’m saying it’s not that deep 😭

[ashen echo]

why are you saying i got mad over him calling me a turd, when he called me a turd in first place, aint he the one that got mad?

[ashen echo]

and then you proceeded to call me a turd as well for no reason?, bruh

[worthy lion]

jake player drama

🍿🍿🍿

[brave arrow]

I don’t think if someone is calling you a turd they are mad😂

[thorn zenith]

[ashen echo]

generally, when you are losing an argument and you resort to insults it is what it means

[thorn zenith]

this discordia stuff needs to be taken seriously...

[ashen echo]

ong

[brave arrow]

One wrong move and you banned for life

[ashen echo]

like imagine just talking

then u get insulted, and for defending yourself, you get teamed

[thorn zenith]

cant be me man

im here for you if you need anything alright :D

[brave arrow]

I’m sorry you got insulted by the word turd.

[ashen echo]

calling someone a turd is a insult itself wdym

it's just dependant on the person if they care about it or not

[brave arrow]

I’m sorry that you care about the word turd

[ashen echo]

why are you repeating the same thing over and over

smh

you are a villain bro

[thorn zenith]

im sorry sapo... i didnt mean to call you a turd...

[ashen echo]

wait for his inputs

if he doesnt attack, then fake your inputs

so he comes closer

[thorn zenith]

if hes going to ladder you, dodge down i recommend

see if the new skateboard tech helps

im not sure if it does

[ashen echo]

ah

one thing

that the skateboard allows now

is that u can skateboard into upspecial

its a kill combo

skateboard still inconsistent as they can still dodge from the second leap

[ashen echo]

nah it's what i get for trying to be decent on discord

full of trolls'n sh*t

[thorn zenith]

My apologies young man, I hope this isn't a common occurrence for you. My condolences for the issues you traverse through. I hope nothing but the best for your future endeavors.

[brave arrow]

😈

[wet flicker]

I love playing jake and always want to give it a chance but it is truly suffering playing this guy currently. What a regression somehow from last update

its only gotten worse cause I got pretty good with harley and BG and matchmaking is relentless. everyone is masters or grandmsters in my matches and I just cant with jake sadly

[ashen echo]

the way that was written makes me think that you are being sarcastic

forget about it tbh

[thorn zenith]

I apologize if that's how it came off to you, I genuinely do apologize for my misconduct. Please accept this note I'm currently writing as an apology.

[brave arrow]

Invest in the Jake stocks he will be insane when he’s buffed

[brave arrow]

What a studious young man, please accept his humble and sincere apology.

[mossy linden]

That’s the same with every attack from every fighter

[ashen echo]

not really, it still happens sometimes that you dodge their attack but because their attack hitbox are still active you get hit by it if you are still in it's range

like finn stab

[mossy linden]

Fair enough

[ashen echo]

and it's some bullsh*t lol

if a character functions in a way that if you dodge it once it makes the attack invalid, then every character needs the same treatment

favoritism is a b*tch

[grim terrace]

@brittle sphinx hows the rank coming along

[ashen echo]

and they said jake is back

laughable

#clips message

[glacial violet]

i really feel like jake dies easier now

like close to being like finn

[ashen echo]

idk about that

but that he's worse he is

somehow

[glacial violet]

like specifically if i attack first and then my attack gets punched i feel like i just get knockbacked further

[ashen echo]

ah yea i feel more knockback if they hit my limbs now too

[glacial violet]

they really shouldve made it so that if ur dodge meter is out jakes limbs can be hit too

[mossy linden]

lmaooooo (sht is not funny at all😓)

[ashen echo]

it is sorta funny tho

cuz they give the character a move

and then they break it

aint that pathetic

''lets give jake a skateboard move so that he can do a 3 combo flip on their opponents head, except that he wont be able to do that at all because we'll remove that''

[ashen echo]

wdym

his limbs are hit regardless

[mossy linden]

Yep, that’s what I’m tryna say, it’s a f*kn joke. And not a funny one.

[ashen echo]

here

uncertain cj said jake is back and because i disagreed with him he called me a whiney baby and a turd

lol

[thorn zenith]

This skateboard buff is what we needed!

[ashen echo]

check the clip i sent btw

[thorn zenith]

Ugh will ya move ON

[ashen echo]

check ''the buff'' lmao

[thorn zenith]

Thats on you

Idk how you or your internet fumbled the bag that hard

Do it at higher percents maybe :/

[ashen echo]

if you roll up the chat you will see im not the only one with that skateboard

so its not a ping issue

[thorn zenith]

And this patch is what made me crack masters

[ashen echo]

how

would that be a ping issue

also

it's a hitbox active move

i could be at 20000 ping, if i land the skateboard, its supposed to land the rest

because its a hitbox active move

cut the bullsh*t

[thorn zenith]

That or you’re doing it at a base percentage

And the enemy is DI’ing

[ashen echo]

they jump out of it

[mossy linden]

That doesnt mean jake is back😭 Jakes hit masters before this patch bruh he’s still bottom tier

[ashen echo]

at any

[thorn zenith]

shhhh… we’re having a moment..

[thorn zenith]

Bro I’m on a win streak wdym

Top 12 TURN UPPP

[ashen echo]

im talking about the skateboard move

i can still crank out clips with this dogsh*t jake but that doesnt change the fact that his skateboard got even more butchered

that clip i sent is an example

it happens all the time

on f*cking god

bro is fighting bots

cuz aint no way

[thorn zenith]

That clip had you be landing next to them instead of on top of them btw

Idek how y’all play Jake so I can’t rly give advice :p

[ashen echo]

so that are the conditions for the skate to work then?

[thorn zenith]

I’m built different

[thorn zenith]

Yea

Both at a decent % and on top

[ashen echo]

when a move needs a condition to work is when the character fails as a character

[thorn zenith]

That pretty much it

[ashen echo]

it's supposed to work anyway

at any method

at any percent

[glacial violet]

i mean like make it so that thats his nerf for running out of dodge meter, rather than constantly having huge hurtboxes on every single attack

[thorn zenith]

You better elaborate with a different example so help me lol

[ashen echo]

ok

so

in the past

not back in beta

but

near release

his skateboard would work

regardless

now it needs a condition

do you understand?

[thorn zenith]

And the condition is..?

higher % and on top?

[ashen echo]

that you must land it perfectly on top of them

[glacial violet]

its also really jank

[thorn zenith]

So if I need Superman’s upsmash to work my condition should have armor on it then right

If we’re using your logic

[glacial violet]

what?

[ashen echo]

bruh

[glacial violet]

dude u are not getting what he is saying LMAO

[thorn zenith]

Like if I gotta have a specification on a move to work doesn’t mean it ain’t gon work

LOL

[glacial violet]

hes saying JAKES move has a condition

[mossy linden]

The 2nd time u used skateboard it was literally right above him and he dodged after the first hit lmao

[ashen echo]

it aint gonna work if you dont land it perfectly on top of them

[glacial violet]

hes specifying that jake has a condition on a few moves in order to properly work

[ashen echo]

now if you land it into them, sideways or whatever, it is always going to fail

and you are going to be punished

for landing it

do you not see how stupid it is

[thorn zenith]

Oh always

We saying 100% of the time now

[glacial violet]

like if you're too close to the ground you might fall through on skateboard, or if ur opponent is too high up they can dodge out of the auto combo. The skateboard u need to hit at a sweet spot to have it actually work

[ashen echo]

i landed on the back of his head and he jumped out anyways

[thorn zenith]

Idk what y’all doing wrong but the skateboard patch has done wonders for me

Like I use the 2 boinks then into neutral air or neutral special

Good stuff

[glacial violet]

i mean the conditions are still there, the speed just makes it easier

[ashen echo]

yea when it works i do it too

but like i said, i need them to not dodge out of it lmao

[thorn zenith]

Sapo buddy

[ashen echo]

oh

oh

also

you can skateboard twice

then upspecial

into upair

its a kill confirm

[thorn zenith]

I haven’t tried that

[ashen echo]

but you need them to not jump out of the skateboard lmao

i did it once

i gotta clip it

[thorn zenith]

Id like to see that

[ashen echo]

i'll try to find it

hold

[thorn zenith]

kk

Overall I still think this is a good step for the skateboard

Much faster and easier to use as a punish

[ashen echo]

#clips message

[thorn zenith]

Like see what I mean tho

Skateboard is so much more consistent now than it was

[ashen echo]

it is consistent as landing it, yes

[thorn zenith]

Like I had to completely remove it from my kit until this patch

[ashen echo]

but it isnt consistent at doing what it's supposed to do

[mossy linden]

I guess jake having 0 combos ain’t true lol

[thorn zenith]

We are gonna disagree on that then

[ashen echo]

opponent can dodge out of it at weird conditions, cuz even when i landed outside jasons hitbox he dodged out of it too

so skateboard rn is just

weird

[thorn zenith]

Like for me I find it easier to punish more players who get low on the ground (Harley and Batman’s slide) and I can consistently get 2 bonks, 3rd if I really wanna

Like idk about you but I’m getting the 2 doinkaloinks

[ashen echo]

yea nah, it's totally easy to use skate now, you can punish and also use it as combo tool because of how fast it descends now

[thorn zenith]

It just takes some readjusting since like it was so weird on release

[ashen echo]

but it's inconsistent

[thorn zenith]

Not for me but I could see that

I like the spot it’s in now currently so :p

[ashen echo]

you can also dair 2x, upair and then bite

[ashen echo]

the update is new, ig you just had the luck to land it just fine everytime, while i had the badluck of it just not working

[thorn zenith]

Yea, it’s just a bit more challenging because you have to do a short jump/dodge in order to input the bite

[thorn zenith]

I had it consistently idk if that’s luck

[ashen echo]

if you are low on them and they are low percent, the upair wont shove them up so high, so it will just slightely move them up so you bite

[thorn zenith]

Oh yeah

That happens

I’m free from ranked now tho

When I hit masters I said “ooo I’m done idc now”

[ashen echo]

i watched a stream some days ago and a dude won 3 RP for winning

[thorn zenith]

Like since I retired from ranked it feels like

I’m free

Idc bout losing no more

I’m like that happy dog with a butterfly on his nose

Cuz like in ranked I felt like I kept losing progress over and over like getting so close

And then dropping heavily

[ashen echo]

i still get sad over losess because i know that some of those matches i would have won if it wasnt for the nerfs

[thorn zenith]

If it’s ranked I’ll get heated but if it’s casual I’m happy

Like I could care less im listenin to a video in the back

[ashen echo]

once i tried to bite chain and then the second bite immediately made they jump out and they took the opportunity and killed me

[thorn zenith]

Well don’t think that

I doubt it

[ashen echo]

i've been watching steam charts for some time now, and in less than 3 weeks player count dropped by 300

[thorn zenith]

3k is fine

If it’s consistent it’s fine

[ashen echo]

it was occilating between 2.8 and 2.7

now its just 2.5 2.6

it hurts my heart to see a game with such potential like this one getting the servers shutdown

[glad dagger]

i love getting ledge camped by superman
i love frost breath

[ashen echo]

it wont survive till 2025

[ashen echo]

its not consistent, its falling

[thorn zenith]

Which is bound to happen with games that don’t get major updates

[ashen echo]

it gets major updates but still somehow suck

every patch is another nerf slaughter

[ashen echo]

like, beetlejuice update barely raised 1k people back

adding characters should move alot of numbers

it didnt do sh*t

[thorn zenith]

So Super Smash Bros Ultimate

They added like 50 characters

[ashen echo]

idk nothing about smash

[thorn zenith]

What’s their player count now

[ashen echo]

idk

its not on steam

lol

[thorn zenith]

Either way

[glad dagger]

i wish they would've nerfed dodge jabbing already

[thorn zenith]

Do you constantly see smash bros

Like on yt n stuff

[glad dagger]

teching did nothing to the fact that characters can abuse it

[ashen echo]

no but i mean as the update ''new character''

new character is a hype update

[thorn zenith]

bro is comparing a fighting game to a fighting game

you sound silly