#Jake The Dog

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celest mural
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When no other characters do

fresh rapids
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Hopefully when jake gets buffed us Jake players will reign supreme

celest mural
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Once the nerf weights are off

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Its over 🤣

fresh rapids
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One thing I'm not looking forward to is the spammers when they realize jake is the meta

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Though spammers are usually easy to take care of I still don't want them disrespecting my boy

celest mural
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I can already guarantee jake wont be the best in the game

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But he needs to be usable

fresh rapids
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He probably won't, but he'll be at least b tier, maybe a

celest mural
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He deserves A

fresh rapids
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I need to be able to stomp banana guards with him

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Canon fight 🔥

celest mural
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I cant tell you how annoying it is to throw out a side air that hits the opponent but you take damage and knockback in the process 🤣

fresh rapids
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Exactly

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It feels unfair

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You can catch them from behind and still get punished

celest mural
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Ah yes punish me for landing a direct hit on a sweetspot

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Makes zero sense

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And some people defend his hurtboxes 💀

fresh rapids
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BTW can people damage the other parts of jake than his head while he's stretching

celest mural
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I thought his body doesnt count

fresh rapids
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I was asking

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Because if not it could be used for insane edge guarding

bronze linden
neat totem
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it's crazy how disadvantaged a matchup against bugs or shaggy feels

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it shouldn't be normal that a 100 win bugs or shaggy CLAP a 1000 win jake

mossy linden
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Only his head

neat totem
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correct

mossy linden
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Fr, yesterday I used her for the first time ever and went on a 10+ game streak on her… so unbalanced

fresh rapids
neat totem
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wanna 1v1 @fresh rapids

fresh rapids
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Sure

neat totem
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are you on eu servers?

fresh rapids
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No

neat totem
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doesn't matter i guess

fresh rapids
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Alr

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Haven't sent it yet

neat totem
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aight

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don't see the invite yet

fresh rapids
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Setting up my wifi

neat totem
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accepted

fresh rapids
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Sent it

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Alr

neat totem
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hazards off pls

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thanks

fresh rapids
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Wait how did it turn back on

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💀😭

neat totem
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gg

fresh rapids
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Gg

neat totem
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lag is horrid though haha

fresh rapids
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Yeah lol

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Gg

neat totem
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well played

ashen echo
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what happens is that the opponents go through your attacks when the release stage is over and you are recovering, you were barely almost hitting them by a frame

static knoll
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High survivability

celest mural
ashen echo
ashen echo
celest mural
ashen echo
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but fr that's true, i just went against a garnet that had 3 thousand wins, anytime she'd combo me i couldn't retaliate because my moves take a whole second to come out so she just kept bashin my skull in

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i had to dash out of it in order to start beating her back

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not even nair was getting her away from me, she was just faster and i couldnt do shite

celest mural
ashen echo
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yea i suffered that twice

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almost cost me the match

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she destroyed me on a 4-5

brittle sphinx
celest mural
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You might catch some people off guard

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But theres only so much you can do with his kit

brittle sphinx
celest mural
ashen echo
static knoll
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My patch notes for Jake was sent to the PFG which includes speeding up some of his attacks such as skateboard, neutral attack(puff into spin) and the down special (because it is too slow to block projectiles efficiently).

Moreover, the main issue I sent then was the hurtbox on his sair. Easily punishable against himself.

So, I’m not a non Jake player. As a matter of fact, I am a top Jake player. Feel free to check my player profile if you don’t believe me!

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Jake is very heavy compared to fin and Batman as well. I’d say about average weight

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I was featured on HankTheTank’s viral tweet about Jake showcasing the invention of the double bite strategy.

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(Has about 150k views)

fresh rapids
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Truly the ping warrior of all time

austere aspen
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playing Jake in this state is so crazy when bugs can still dair nair loop me for 80% from the beta and im still too fat to get out 😭

austere aspen
fresh rapids
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Side Ground, Side Ground, Up Ground, Stretch Upwards, Up Air, Up Air

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Not exactly a combo but it works well

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Also not a combo but a lot of the time you can do the side ground 3 hit, dash over to the enemy while they're midair from the knockback, and then use a quick non-charged up ground

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There's also the well known skateboard into bite combo

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Where after skateboarding 3 times you can basically get a free bite off if you do it fast enough

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Tip: aim the bite at walls instead of the ground or the sky unless you know you can get them off that way

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Also, don't use the house offensively if you can use the skateboard instead

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As you can get more damage from the bite combo

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House should mainly be used for quick falling as offensively it's very predictable and punishable

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Horse can be good offensively for edge guarding or if you catch the enemy off guard with it

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Also enemies can't hurt jake's body while he's stretching so it's a great edge guarding tool if the enemy doesn't have a way to reach your head

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Wait pause

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I gotta test something

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There's no way this could work

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Btw jake's 3 hit side combo can cancel into either his up or down after the second hit

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Use that to your advantage if you can

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Wait

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PAAUUSSEEE

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This should have been obvious now that I think about it

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But I just found a new combo

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I gotta test this in an actual match

austere aspen
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after ledge i can sometimes get a bite if im fast enough but idk what to do with it after except spit at wall

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Might just make it a suicide combo 💀

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is there anything u can do after spit at any angle?

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or is it just charge fair and hope they dodge instead of mash

ashen echo
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there's also side ground side ground down ground, dash side ground side ground, horse

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i have a clip of doing it

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there

fresh rapids
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So I just realized

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His 3 hit side combo can also cancel into bite after the second hit

austere aspen
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ye

fresh rapids
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I have some ideas for combo setups with that

ashen echo
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its risky

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sometimes it lands sometimes it doesnt

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and if your opponent is smart enough he'll parry you

austere aspen
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i hit an untrue 0-80 on superman just now

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cromulons rocks, it only dropped bc i messed up my timing and then dash attacked

static knoll
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you can hit once into bite, hit twice into bite, double hit into horse, sstretch into bite

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horse into bite

austere aspen
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double hit into horse?

static knoll
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yeah if they get sent flying charge after them

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and they tend to land right on your horse

fresh rapids
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It seems his basic combo can cancel into most of his moves actually

ashen echo
static knoll
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double hit into axe

austere aspen
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what is double hit

ashen echo
static knoll
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hit the attack button twice

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but not 3

austere aspen
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??

static knoll
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and not once

ashen echo
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but

static knoll
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bro the most basic attack you can do\

ashen echo
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twice

austere aspen
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ohhh

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multiversus terms are still terms from all platforms fighters combined so i was confused

fresh rapids
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Oh so double hit is just a shorter way of what I was saying

static knoll
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then after axe you can stretch

ashen echo
fresh rapids
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You can "double hit" into most of Jake's arsenal

static knoll
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exactly

fresh rapids
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But some moves are riskier than others

static knoll
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bute double side attack intoaxe into stretch

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and then up attack into ringout

ashen echo
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can double hit into nair?

ashen echo
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you cant do it fast enough

static knoll
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still useful combo

austere aspen
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before i was doing 1 2 dtilt into fair if it bounced, but dodging and then 1 2 dtilt again has been working nicely

static knoll
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anyone else's 4th slot emote not working?

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if u change it from default to something else

ashen echo
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i dont even have that many emotes to know that

austere aspen
fresh rapids
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Imma make a video of all possible double hit combos

austere aspen
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he dodged out but i was only supposed to do it twice before biting anyway 💀

static knoll
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I junst rungout IG from 0 with my special tech

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Its my secret tech

austere aspen
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share the wealth

ashen echo
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i think i know what his secret tech is lol

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i have mine too

static knoll
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I think u do too

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i showcased it on Buggzii stream

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i also have secret tech against taz specifically if someone wants to join a custom game I can show them

ashen echo
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damn against taz?

static knoll
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yes

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instant death

ashen echo
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a character that supposedly curb stomps jake

static knoll
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wanna see? My username in game is my discord name

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u have to be taz tho

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its easy and quick

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quite funny too

ashen echo
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might be laggy

static knoll
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its okay

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u down tho?

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@ashen echo

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or @austere aspen

austere aspen
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yep

fresh rapids
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Why does jake t bagging look so hilarious 💀

ashen echo
austere aspen
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wait i don't own taz

static knoll
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okay add me to custom game @austere aspen

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oh okay

austere aspen
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can i do it as Jake? He's equally rotund

static knoll
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does @fresh rapids and u can watch

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and no its specifically against taz lol

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his dogpile move to instant kill

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i found it on accident

austere aspen
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oh my god this is great
any map with any type of wall at all you can just loop 1 2 dtilt until it breaks or they get too high % 🙂‍↕️

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Devs if you're seeing this you didn't 🙂‍↕️

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And 1,2 bite as soon as the wall breaks is free suicide kill

static knoll
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bro can i inv u and show u? ill be taz

austere aspen
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Yep

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Kingozebras

static knoll
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all u gotta do is do the hosue and keep it there

austere aspen
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4.5 K Jake wins

static knoll
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LOL

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yep

austere aspen
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I apologize for not recognizing your prestige Senior Brother

static knoll
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LOL ty

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dont jump

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just stay

austere aspen
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I see

static knoll
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you cant get out ofd that either

austere aspen
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dude

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that is amazing

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HAHAHAHA

static knoll
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vertical ringout bc of elastic energy ig

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so funny

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i also have another weird tech that is map based

austere aspen
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dude i hope that sneaks through the patches for the rest of the game

static knoll
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i agree. As far aas i know, i was the first person to find it and I showed u and bugzvii

celest mural
static knoll
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how often do u guys use his dash attack

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and ok

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whast ur username

celest mural
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Salagater

static knoll
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(u gotta be taz tho

celest mural
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ok

static knoll
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says ur offline

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i added u as friend

austere aspen
static knoll
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its hard on small maps

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thats one thing i need to use more

celest mural
static knoll
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ill be taz

celest mural
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oh okay thanks!

static knoll
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ill lyk tho, im not trying to die here this just happens as a result

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may look like im trying to die

celest mural
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got it

static knoll
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but you may need to inv me

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KappaPingWarrior

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ill record it for any time someone wants to see

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all u have to do is not move but stay as the house or car or whatever (down special)

celest mural
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got it

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so just downspecial?

static knoll
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yes and hold it

celest mural
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ok

static knoll
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and this happens as a result (but taz has to go in from top

celest mural
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LOL

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u cant escape that move?

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or cancel?

static knoll
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on cooldown

celest mural
static knoll
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but also

fresh rapids
static knoll
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bite and land on the green. u go flying

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not me

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bite and land

celest mural
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OH

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LOL i did that by accident one game!

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and had no idea why

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i wonder if that works on allied jakes

static knoll
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it does

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as a matter of fact

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you can bite and eat someone and go flying to top and spit for ringout

celest mural
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LOL what

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does that work with trees too?

static knoll
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idk it does with double jake tho

celest mural
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thats so funny

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are there anymore jake tricks?

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i know u mentioned a few up there ^

static knoll
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yes

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lets do a new custom

celest mural
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got it

static knoll
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its gonna be hard to land but stay as house

fresh rapids
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Can yall post what you're doing in clips

austere aspen
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i will DM you a clip later, this must be kept secret

static knoll
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see hard to land

celest mural
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if iron giant can DI out of it most the time its prob not worth it

static knoll
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still interesting tech i did

mossy linden
static knoll
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says i lost

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said "Defeat"

celest mural
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LOL what

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bug

static knoll
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yeah dude

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it wouldnt let me instant capture

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the clips

celest mural
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does jake have any true combos besides tripple dair into bite

static knoll
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here go a tank

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wait wrong map

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wtf i didnt put this, i put cromulons LOL

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uhh

celest mural
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lol no worries

austere aspen
celest mural
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any that arent escapable?

static knoll
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i doubt it besides this

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but superman gets out of that

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alwaysd

celest mural
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just him?

static knoll
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hes the counter to that

celest mural
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ive been able to escape as jake before

static knoll
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i mean some with good recovery but often ppl dont realize it

austere aspen
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first 2-3 loops at least

static knoll
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I saved that clip and ill work on that

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@austere aspen

celest mural
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Can i 1v1 ur jake?

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I do not know jake vs jake at all

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since nobody plays him

static knoll
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i suck at mirror matches in general

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LOL

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but yes

celest mural
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me too LOL

static knoll
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like in MK1 i was a good Liu Kang but i sucked agaisnt liu kang

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its a whole diff playstyle

celest mural
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no worries!

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i just know ur probably one of the best jakes in the community

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and i wana get better

static knoll
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ty brother!

celest mural
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u got it brother!

static knoll
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the punch

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hurtbox

celest mural
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gg!

static knoll
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GG

celest mural
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oh yeah i hate that hurtbox too

static knoll
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thought u had me too

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i just have to completely change how i play in Jake v Jake

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its odd gameplay tbh

austere aspen
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are u still doing 1v1s

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@static knoll

static knoll
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yeah im in a game wit hsalagater

celest mural
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its very different for sure

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ur jake is soo good

static knoll
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ty ty u2

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jake sucks donkey nuts tho

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thats my hidden tech

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the "up one stock suicide strat"

celest mural
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wait is that not escable?

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yeah i do that too

static knoll
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like i said it depends. superman can escape

celest mural
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can jake escape?

static knoll
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i think up special frame-perfect

celest mural
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like jump then upspecial?

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or upspecial off the bat

static knoll
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tbh idk its never been done to me

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im just guessing

celest mural
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nice comeback!

static knoll
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ty xD!

celest mural
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did u try to escape the jump off?

static knoll
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i thought i was done

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yeah

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its like so quick

celest mural
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its so hard to land the downairs

static knoll
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yeah plus you dont know if u die first or if they do

celest mural
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so close!

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atleast we know u can escape it

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gg!

static knoll
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yo

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i got timed out for profanity lmao my bad

celest mural
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?

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oh no worries!

static knoll
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whole 5 mins

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ggs

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i also think u got out bc i ran out of cool down right before the death

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so it was easy recover

celest mural
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maybe ur righjt

static knoll
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it was a niche case

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yeah its a niche case theres no recovery

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ggs!

celest mural
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oh thats good to know

static knoll
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we played 10 i think

celest mural
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i think it might be based on character size

static knoll
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yeah exactly but its a good IG killer

celest mural
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wait whats IG?

static knoll
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iron giant

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gizmo too

celest mural
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ohhh

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oh good

static knoll
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i showed u the taz thing right

celest mural
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where he flies into oblivion from jakes house

static knoll
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yes

celest mural
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?

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oh yeah

static knoll
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funny asf

celest mural
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ikr LOL

static knoll
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but jake v jake is "who can out cheese first" LOL

celest mural
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oh for sure LOL

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thats his character rn

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unfortunately

static knoll
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like ur double bite (i invented that) and u used it against me xD

celest mural
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Oh really??

static knoll
celest mural
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i thought i was the only one who did that

static knoll
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well i publicized it

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ig

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but u may not have seen it so u invented it on ur own too ig

celest mural
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Jake minds think alike

static knoll
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fr its his only good move ngl

fresh rapids
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Bacon pancakes ahh statement

celest mural
static knoll
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ur a good jake tho

celest mural
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thanks man u too!

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im feeling much more confident now

static knoll
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whys that

celest mural
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I learned so much about jake vs jake

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a match up i couldnt know previously

static knoll
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all u gotta do is win the first stock and its smooth sailing from there

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up axe, stretch and bite are the good moves against jake

celest mural
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true

static knoll
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glad i could help brother

celest mural
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definitely did!

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I also like how u use upair to stall

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that was very wise

static knoll
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ty its something i learned in beta

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puff also works but not as much

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its like an air brake

celest mural
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yeah i love that

static knoll
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also if u dont have it equiped, armor crunch / breaker for fully powered attacks (the perk) is goated\

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useful against WW

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and collatoral damage

celest mural
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And breaking armor is very important i agree

static knoll
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what do u use instead?

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(middle perk)

static knoll
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Can someone help validate this bug

fresh rapids
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Okay they've got to buff Jake in the balance patch

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There's actually no way they can ignore how underpowered he is rn

static knoll
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Agreed. PFG is already informed of this

austere aspen
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i hadn't noticed bc i hadn't realized i never really saw any Jakes

muted lance
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every once in a while I come across some Jakes

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Who are admittedly a lot better than I was as Jake

austere aspen
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ah yes a bit of trolling

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I've started spamming bite now

balmy igloo
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how the mighty have fallen

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beta menace to now being mid

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what did they do to this character

austere aspen
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assassination

balmy igloo
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i heard he doesnt got any approach tools

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give him armour on the horse

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and make nair hitbox better

austere aspen
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Nair comes out so slow now ud be better off mailing them the hit, forget all the combos

fresh rapids
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I'm sick of getting punished for my attacks

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I can land a hit on a dude from behind and still take damage

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It's so annoying

austere aspen
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nobody else is like this

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maybe jason

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but his attacks don't work that's why

fresh rapids
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I can't even punish another jakes house with my up because I TAKE DAMAGE FROM MY OWN HAND

austere aspen
fresh rapids
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Whoever added the hurtboxes should be forced to fight the lich fr

austere aspen
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and why when fair gets hit does it suck me into the move? Realistically if my stretchy hand gets hit I will take the damage and it'll snap back to me, but if anything why don't I just fly off from where im standing

fresh rapids
austere aspen
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Tom does up tilt and I teleport center stage into a combo

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makes 0 sense

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why doesn't Jerry die when he's being swung around
i think being turned into a paddle ball hurts more than hitting someone in the back of the head

fresh rapids
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Fr

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Also, the fact that your attacks have hurtboxes legit goes against the idea of skill based pvp

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You take damage for taking advantage of when an enemy screws up

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Half his punish opportunities are meaningless because his hurtbox doesn't allow it

austere aspen
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I see people throwing stuff out and have to let them bc I don't even have a move worth a trade

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Maybe I should fair for 6 damage and get stuck in a bugs nair loop from across the stage

fresh rapids
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Best trade fr

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Don't you just love it when you get sucked in front of an enemy from hitting them from behind

brittle sphinx
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yall im 5 tiers away from the muddy jake

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need to see how it looks in his kit 😭

austere aspen
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@static knoll i might've found another Jake "tech" 😭

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this character is so chopped

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i gotta figure out if i can replicate it but i got a dentist appointment so it will be later

static knoll
mossy linden
austere aspen
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it does?

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is it worth using for that bc it's still turning you into a giant hurtbox

mossy linden
# austere aspen it does?

Yea I think they introduced it when the game rereleased to help balance jake with the hurtbox on sair but I wouldn’t mind if they just removed both features tbh

mossy linden
static knoll
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hes always reversed projectiles that way!

royal scroll
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You think the hotfox finally buffs jake?

static knoll
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Possibly

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theres a medium % chance

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i'd say yeah but probably in ways we wont think are sufficient

marsh linden
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can someone explaining what certain status effects do?

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there is nothing in the game like shock or weakening.

celest mural
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Idk what that rainbow status joker and harley put on you does

marsh linden
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confetti?

marsh linden
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If you are hit by a projectile you are marked with a rainbow thing, the next hit will turn you on fire

celest mural
muted lance
marsh linden
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like how much damage increased is a weakened stack

muted lance
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Fair enough

marsh linden
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3% 5%?

ashen echo
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ah yes

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i dont think it pays it off tho

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i have plenty of clips of zoning people into the blast zoning by biting them everytime they come near the edge but it has no kill power, no combo no nothing, it only does depend on the circumstances of the situation

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it has kill power if your opponent is above 180

muted lance
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I've been seeing an increased number of 2v2 Jakes abusing the armor of his bite on teammates

ashen echo
ashen echo
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i think everyone beats it

brittle sphinx
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all we can do is wait and hope

static knoll
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so if they speed it up (which i informed PFG) then it will be viable to use.

ashen echo
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rn im trying to figure out how a jake is supposed to take out a harley, a finn and a steven

muted lance
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It's such a frustrating move

ashen echo
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it's physically impossible

muted lance
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Yeah sure if you telegraph the attack super hard, yeah you should be able to counter House, but it really shouldn't be deniable entirely

ashen echo
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yesterday i also fought a harley quinn that any time i caught her with the up special and i went for the kill with the upair, she would just dodge the second upair and i never killed her

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jake's attacks are so morbidly slow that some characters can literally just dodge out of it

austere aspen
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got a few outright kills at 100-130 aiming straight up and jumping

ashen echo
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its not straight up tho, it's diagonal

austere aspen
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though their DI could've been bad bc they expected to go forward not up

austere aspen
austere aspen
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@static knoll sent clip

austere aspen
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Say a prayer before reading the patch

wary sage
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no jake buff

austere aspen
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My prayers are unanswered

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mostly emote bugs so still very optimistic tho

hard arch
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no buff? Well, guess I won't be playing for a bit, it's such a slog to do daily missions with characters I don't like.

clear jackal
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Jake is not bottom tier

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Gonna b real

austere aspen
celest mural
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Wheres the patch notes

austere aspen
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twitter

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the announcement cut off the actual link lol

celest mural
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I hope we still get another patch on Thursday

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But jake gameplay is getting really boring

clear jackal
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With jake being the best of the 5

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Rest arent in order

ashen echo
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beating characters such as finn as jake is refreshing

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since jake is so far the hardest character rn to play as cuz he's pathetically weak

fresh rapids
static knoll
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Note: This is a small "hotfix" it isnt the balance patch which is coming "shortly". Stay strong and know that us playing jake is indicative of how good we all really are. JAKERS RISE!

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Im at 85% win rate rn tho LOL

fresh rapids
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Forget jokers

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We got jakers

brittle sphinx
fresh rapids
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Fr

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He's one of the best

brittle sphinx
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dangg

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bro how do yall play against nair spammin stevens??

fresh rapids
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I usually don't fight stevens

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Not sure what his Nair is

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Though I've probably fought one using it

brittle sphinx
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its like a bubble thing all around him, defo top 3 nair in the game id say

fresh rapids
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I like this game but man the grind is insane

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It's about 200$ just to get every character

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And don't say "be satisfied with not having everything" because you need characters for the missions

ashen echo
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imagine if they buffed jake

brittle sphinx
ashen echo
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i'm still at 6,02k

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the grind cant even be called grind because you dont get anything for grinding, u only get those through missions

fresh rapids
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I get they need money but like

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They have cosmetics for that

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At least let us grind for the characters

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Some people will pay anyways

ashen echo
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such as sparking zero

ashen echo
fresh rapids
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All they give you is perk currency

ashen echo
fresh rapids
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Exactly

ashen echo
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most if not everyone started with like 50k perk currency

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gettin perk currency through battlepass and missions is worthless and a waste of time

fresh rapids
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And the training missions are a one time thing

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You get a little gleamium and that's it

wary sage
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im so bored with this game already its such a struggle to play for me

fresh rapids
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Same

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The training missions should have at least been weekly

ashen echo
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it's just a matter of time until we get everything we need per match

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that being fighter currency and bp exp

fresh rapids
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And you get 5 FIGHTER CURRENCY from a toast

ashen echo
fresh rapids
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Assuming you got toasted every game it'd still be ridiculous

ashen echo
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im only at 6k rn because i grinded toasts by playing flawlesly

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cuz missions did me no justice

wary sage
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for me the amount of bp exp is alright

fresh rapids
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Even if you're good they don't have to give you a toast

austere aspen
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steven so slept on, either im chopped or every single steven is good

wary sage
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i hate steven

ashen echo
austere aspen
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no more up air

static knoll
fresh rapids
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The least a fighter costs is 3,000 fc

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You get FIVE from a toast

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How is that fair

ashen echo
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i also cant win against them

wary sage
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600 toasts for a fighter is fair wdym

brittle sphinx
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bet

brittle sphinx
ashen echo
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if you go defensive they'll shoot you and come from above, if you be offensive they'll spam Nair and sair

fresh rapids
ashen echo
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u literally cant approach them

static knoll
fresh rapids
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You'd literally have to get toasted 600 times

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Do you even know what the chance of that is

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How long that would take

wary sage
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10k matches probably

static knoll
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lolllll

ashen echo
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lmao

wary sage
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yea

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probably less if you give them the win

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at the start of the match

fresh rapids
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What a fair amount of games for a single fighter fr

austere aspen
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tbag and then lose really badly

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toast farm

ashen echo
brittle sphinx
austere aspen
fresh rapids
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Nobody is getting the whole roster without paying 😔

ashen echo
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true

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i should've bought the roster with coins back on the beta

wary sage
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in half a year maybe

ashen echo
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i didnt know they would murder the grind mechanic like this

fresh rapids
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Literally you'd have to no life this game

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You just have to HOPE you get toasted

static knoll
ashen echo
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but i dont worry cuz i know they'll eventually make it so we get fighter currency per matches

fresh rapids
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Soon we're going to have tft (toast for toast) going around in the discord 😭

wary sage
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i don't even do all daily

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s

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im so done

brittle sphinx
ashen echo
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such as joker and batman shirts

static knoll
ashen echo
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u need to buy a character skin that uses their shirts, which's f*cking stupid

static knoll
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but dope

ashen echo
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just to advance better on the battlepass

fresh rapids
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I wonder how much money you would have paid just to get all the neccesary skins and characters for the seasons so far

ashen echo
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probably a whole minimum wage salary

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if you are speaking of every conceivable content behind paywall

fresh rapids
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🥺

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Yeah grinding is near impossible for this game

wary sage
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thank god this aint fifa 🙏

fresh rapids
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In brawlhalla you can get characters by just playing a lot

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What a mind blowing idea

ashen echo
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cuz y'know

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it gives u the currency u need to buy characters and free colors

brittle sphinx
wary sage
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i love that in the new rift you have had to get the twitch rewards garnet skin to 100% complete it

ashen echo
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tbh if they just copied the whole brawlhalla formula from head to toe except for combat, this game would skyrocket

fresh rapids
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More people would be willing to pay if it wasn't so scummy

brittle sphinx
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id also be down to see a crew battles in here even if it was another arcade mode type thing

ashen echo
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i would grind my ass off just to get a pink jake or black jake

fresh rapids
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Also they could do what brawlhalla did and let you just buy every present and future character for a set amount of money

wary sage
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the game kind of protects me from the store half the time it crashes for no reason thanks i guess?

fresh rapids
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Or maybe a pass that gives you every skin for a specific character

ashen echo
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ong a journey for every character to unlock all their content would be amazing

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it's also original

brittle sphinx
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100%

wary sage
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oh great

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now it crashes when i open the battle pass

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👍

ashen echo
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i think that's your personal issue bad luck 😭

wary sage
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yea but its so weird

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every thing seems to work fine

fresh rapids
ashen echo
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all mains of their character would

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i'm praying that if they ever touch jake in the balance update, they take off his limb hurtboxes, if they did only that i'd be the happiest man alive

fresh rapids
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Same

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Thatd be awesome

brittle sphinx
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just matched against hankdatank :o

fresh rapids
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the "run it back" trophy on ps is gonna be hard

static knoll
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I beat him any time i play him xD

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idk how he won the 40k tourney

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hes not THAT good

fresh rapids
static knoll
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It wild they never added new achievements

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ive been at 100% since beta xD

ashen echo
fresh rapids
static knoll
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apparently xD

brittle sphinx
static knoll
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Don't feel too bad. If you were that close, keep in mind he does this for a living and it should be 3-0 any time he plays

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but if u got a stock then good job!

brittle sphinx
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preciate it! yeah i was able to get a stock off on him thats when i had the lead then he just started abusing the sandwich perk w shaggy

ashen echo
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i won against a morty with 10k wins, but only one match, the folowing 3 he demolished me 😔

static knoll
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Morty is a POS with the hurtbox on our jakes

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always breaks a combo

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its hard to get close sometimes

fresh rapids
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truly an opp

ashen echo
brittle sphinx
ashen echo
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that'd be his horse but its stupidly predictable

static knoll
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i noticed with jake, the more decisive you are with your moves the better. Like make your moves short and sweet. Dont charge horse for too long, dont hold sair for too long

fresh rapids
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yeah

ashen echo
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same thing with his up ground

fresh rapids
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oh also the #1 jake is on this server apparently

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actually i guess that wouldn't be too suprising

topaz edge
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You all having fun with jake? I dropped him even tho I had 1000+ wins with him on beta

fresh rapids
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He's fun but not good

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not compared to the others at least

wary sage
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he's fun i but i don't like playing against any character except jason

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maybe garnet too

static knoll
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I love jake still

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hes so fun when youre in a flow

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he controls the map

ashen echo
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now that i think about it it's true

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jake struggles against basically everyone on the roster

static knoll
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the only thing that makes me mad is his hurtbox on his attacks

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so pointless

topaz edge
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I really can't believe how much they nerfed jake on release

ashen echo
topaz edge
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Like other characters that got nerfs on beta got better on release, I really don't understand how someone saw jake and said ''Yeah, he's nice on release''

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Probably nakat tbh

ashen echo
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that's all

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it doesnt make up to it tho

static knoll
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Also how often do u use the neutral attack (RB)

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bc its so slow

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with 0 priority

ashen echo
static knoll
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i see

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what about the amplify

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(spin)

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(double rb)

ashen echo
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i try to use it to slow my fall and make enemies miss the timing from when im about to land on the ground so that i punish them

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i also use it to space out

static knoll
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okay bc its very limited use whereas in beta i used it a lot in combos

ashen echo
wary sage
ashen echo
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back in the beta, u could do horse into nair into strech into nair into bite

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jake was a combo machine

static knoll
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it should have priority of some kind bc most characters' rb move counters attacks

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like banana guard

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and finn

ashen echo
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jake is so slow for a pugilist he should be just classified as a tank

static knoll
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THATS WHAT IM SAYING
\

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hes slower than most tanks

ashen echo
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and he's squishy asf it doesnt help at all

static knoll
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exactly

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also can we talk ab how ste ven has 2 classes

wary sage
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does he fit into any category

ashen echo
static knoll
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Steven is tank and mage

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jake should be tank bruiser if anything

wary sage
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i didnt even know

static knoll
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Yeah its so odd

ashen echo
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its just not fair

static knoll
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yeah dude

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steven needs nerfed

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hot take

wary sage
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is it a hot take

static knoll
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cold take then

ashen echo
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dont let that distract you from the fact that finn has an easy auto combo that 0-death all characters in the game

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that being his nair into up special

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jake rn is like, the strongest character by lore in the roster and the devs took him for a clown

static knoll
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yeah dude

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finn does the up slash, kick into bacpack

fresh rapids
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I mean we have superman

static knoll
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Superman is xD

ashen echo
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what superman gonna do to jake 😭

static knoll
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Or Batman hypothetically

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with enough prep time xD

wary sage
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fr batman solos

ashen echo
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jake's toon force is stupidly op

static knoll
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batman whoops superman and thats why superman gave him kryptonite

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bc if superman become sa problem then he trusts batman to kill him

ashen echo
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idk man what would batman do to a jake with prep time?

static knoll
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Thats for batman to find out

wary sage
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freeze him maybe idk im not batman

static knoll
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hes a genius

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All I know is batman is a gangster

ashen echo
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that prep time talk basically says that batman is the strongest character in fiction if he has prep time

static knoll
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yes

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its a meme but also true

ashen echo
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what is bro going to do against doctor manhattan

static knoll
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true dat

wary sage
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win maybe

static knoll
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LOL

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I think Dr Manhattan is so OP tho

ashen echo
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he waves his hands and ppl explodes

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wtf are u gonna do against that

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parry it?

static knoll
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Low key the line in Batman V Superman when he asks "Tell me, do you bleed" was so cool

wary sage
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low key i forgot what happened in the entire movie

static knoll
wary sage
ashen echo
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no image perms 😔

static knoll
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unfortunately

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How do u guys fight BG as jake with his hurtbox

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the spear countersa a lot

ashen echo
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i let them do their move first, its the only way

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you cant aggro with jake in this game

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always be depending on the opponents input

static knoll
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agreed

static knoll
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Why do I play like a character then its always followed by the same character

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its gotta be intentional

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like the enemies are usually thge same

ashen echo
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yea

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if you match against bugs you will have to fight other 3 bugs mains

wary sage
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i had like a 5 joker streak

static sail
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someone send feet pics(jake combos)

celest mural
ashen echo
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jake is too underated for the devs to hear the cry of despair from jake mains asking for a buff

rustic iron
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yeah right now he has the third lowest usage rate and the second lowest win rate

prisma parcel
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Man I just want to play as the goofy strechy dog but he is hard to get kills with at times

static sail
rustic iron
celest mural
ashen echo
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actually crazy how the only opponent that a jake can beat fairly is jason without having so sweat and cheese

celest mural
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didnt the shop have jake bundle yesterday?

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did anyone see what was in it?

ashen echo
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there was star child ig, emotes and cake

celest mural
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and what emotes?

ashen echo
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prolly all of them, and if my memory doesnt fail me, there's only one cake available

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calico cake was from halloween only

celest mural
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also jake only has 3 emotes and 2 stickers right?

ashen echo
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ah fr?, then nothing on the beta really mattered

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not even the battlepass

celest mural
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i dont even know if battlepass items are exclusive after the season ends

ashen echo
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saw shaggyworth on the battlepass on the beta then i saw it on the shop and got extremely disappointed

celest mural
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i think everything returns to the shop at some point

ashen echo
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well then nothing is exclusive

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that's some boring shite

celest mural
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I like that tho

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it gives people a chance when they are too busy working to play the game

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no skin will ever be unique to one player anyways

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even in games like fortnite

ashen echo
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if the game werent that much of a grind anyone would be able to get those stuff

celest mural
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no matter how rare it is

ashen echo
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but they turning the community into slaves

ashen echo
celest mural
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and whats the point in gatekeeping a good skin?

ashen echo
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not to one person only

celest mural
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i mean isnt that unfair

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people dont always have the luxary of free time

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they should be able to work hard and get any skin if they work hard enough

ashen echo
celest mural
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and what satisfaction do you recieve from gatekeeping it when u know 100s of people probably have it anyways

ashen echo
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fortunate are the ones that have time

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and they earn it if they sacrificed anything for it

celest mural
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I fail to see how that provides any benefit

ashen echo
celest mural
ashen echo
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mainly when its a free to play game filled from head to toe with cosmetics market

celest mural
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and that satisfaction is kinda redundant when u think about all the people who have that exclusive skin anyways it defeats the purpose

ashen echo
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warframe is also a game

ashen echo
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that's why its exclusive

celest mural
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Theres no real value in gatekeeping a skin thats not exclusively yours

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other people have it

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so what difference does it make

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other than flexing free time

ashen echo
celest mural
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but what real value does that provide

ashen echo
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i already told you

celest mural
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It seems like its a fomo reliant gimic

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and im glad this game wont be like that

ashen echo
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i mean you dont even know

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this is the first

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actual

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battlepass

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skins like muddy jake might never ever return

agile fractal
austere aspen
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how do u fight Finn

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the only thing that worked was fair but he's still faster

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i couldn't jab him bc he has an attack charged 24/7 and i get hit from behind

brittle sphinx
celest mural
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I agree some skins should be hard to get but never impossible

brittle sphinx
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well okay then it should be exclusive for a long time ass time, a year is prolly enough otherwise incentives to grind go down if ur just knowing like yeah wtvr ill just unlock it whenever

fresh rapids
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Honestly why would you want to be punished for being too busy to get something

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Or not being able to play the game for a certain amount of time

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No offense to anyone ofc but trying to gatekeep something just because you happened to be free at the time and you were able to get it seems kind of selfish

marsh linden
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Is this character completely weak without he axe perk?

vital sonnet
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thjs game ruined jake still no noticeable buffs lol

static knoll
marsh linden
static knoll
static knoll
marsh linden
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I swear to God I remember that Jake has a perks that gives his up ground tilt instant charge and breaking armor properties.

static knoll
wary sage
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that seems really broken

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i don't remember it either

static knoll
wary sage
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jake is so bad people having dreams of him being good

static knoll
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pls explain someone

cosmic meadow
austere aspen
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if you do anything other than win that screen says loss

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if they desync, loss
if they leave, loss
if you tie, loss

fresh rapids
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I mean he has some

fresh rapids
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I know like at 100 a fully charged one is practically a confirm

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I know at like 120 for most characters it's a confirm

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May be less than that though

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I said a charged up

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Without charge no it's def not a confirm

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But if you can make an opening it's a free kill

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After the buff I would annihilate with Jake

austere aspen
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the s tiers just have too much

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i died to bugs up air at 55 on shaggy map bc i faired up at him from basically the ground

wary sage
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do you guys have to wait 80s just to get into a match or is that just me

fresh rapids
fresh rapids
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I get matched in under 10 seconds usually

static knoll
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^^same

rustic iron
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yeah it is criminal how an up jab is a kill or a superman punch is a kill but an axe is much harder to kill with or you must have higher damage

static knoll
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i will say... jake is better vertically than horizontally

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the more you utilize that fact, the better off you are as jake

static knoll
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its funny that jake is literally the worst

austere aspen
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why does dodging last forever
if i read that theyre going to roll i should be rewarded not punished

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and why am i fatter than my i frames, if i roll past an attack they hit me facing the opposite direction
if they roll into an attack it still says dodge and they get away scott free

static knoll
wary sage
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how is reindog s tier

static knoll
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Even tony couldnt answer that

muted lance
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Muddy Jake?

static knoll
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I could only assume

muted lance
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There's also matrix jake

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That we can't access yet

static knoll
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oh yeah

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i never do rifts xD

eternal bridge
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starting to play a little bit of this char and hes lowkey still really good

wary sage
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i did them but got bored of them

eternal bridge
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dair being gutted really makes you appreciate the rest of the bs jake has to offer

static knoll
eternal bridge
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neutral special oneshotting bug’s safe brought a tear to my eye 🥺

static knoll
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i proposed less floatiness on the dair to the devs

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and also not hurtbox on attacks

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and speeding up the down special bc its so slow

eternal bridge
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honestly the hurtboxes seem fair

muted lance
eternal bridge
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considering how much bigger his actual hitboxes are

eternal bridge
static knoll
eternal bridge
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neutral special in general is just insane

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ez kill move @ 100ish for most characters at ledge

static knoll
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what way u spit em out? off of the wall or air volley near border?

eternal bridge
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just spit em out toward the blast zone

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its that strong

static knoll
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i bank em off the wall and punch them sometimes if theyre heavy

eternal bridge
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maybe not top 5 like he used to be but hes a solid char

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that works

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i gotta try that

static knoll
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hes the worst character but hes only good if u played him in beta a lot

eternal bridge
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worst character might be stretching it

static knoll
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He needs buffed the most out of anyone

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Hes literally bottom on teams and second worst on 1s

eternal bridge
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velma above bugs

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im not trusting this

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yeah win rate =/= character viability

static knoll
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did they refuse to?

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the balance patch is coming

eternal bridge
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its really weird that forward and up attack are so bad in comparison to down attack

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that move does everything

static knoll
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Jake is so bad

eternal bridge
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down attack will feed your family and do your taxes

static knoll
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regardless

eternal bridge
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grounded not aerial

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singlehandedly carries this ground game 🥺

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yes it is

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turn on hitbox visuals and go look im telling you

static knoll
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is that what he hits or what hits him?

eternal bridge
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red is the hitbox

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meaning thats what he hits with

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blue is the hurtbox

static knoll
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ohhhh

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ok

eternal bridge
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thats current

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go to AppData > Local > MultiVersus > Saved > Config > WindowsClient > Game.ini

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change hit to true and hurt to true

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save and open MvS

brittle sphinx
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its not 😭

celest mural