Still a good way to kill
#Jake The Dog
cosmic meadow
I've been having a blast doing the 0 to death double bite off stage though
open agate
Wanna 1v1? Its just a friebdly match
open agate
Yeha but not as lag
cosmic meadow
ggs I've got to hit it
open agate
Sometimwa i didnt chase dodge lol
cosmic meadow
I dodge before most my jumps which launches me
open agate
Like brawlhalla
cosmic meadow
exactly
open agate
Feels weird in mvs
cosmic meadow
it doesn't
open agate
Does it really have any difference?
open agate
One last match ill try what u said
cosmic meadow
alr
open agate
Should we go both jake or?
cosmic meadow
I could go ww but she's dumb
open agate
Lets just go jake v jake so its fair
cosmic meadow
oki doki
cosmic meadow
happens
open agate
Ur rlly gud at abusing his eat
open agate
I wanna see if that playstyle do work on other characters
So how does it work when u play online?
open agate
I mean is it effective on good players
cosmic meadow
for sure
open agate
Dang ur a really good jake
open agate
Ive been using his sair all the timw for zoning and it works for me until they get close. Maybe ur style is more optimal
cosmic meadow
yeah I don't approach w/ sair much anymore since it's too punishing
I use it more for spacing and playing passive
or offstage
also skateboard into bite is true
but skateboard hard as heck to hit now
open agate
I tried doing ur thing. Its kinda hard to play upclose since jake doesnt have good options for uo close air battle
open agate
yeah I don't approach w/ sair much anymore since it's too punishing
If u have some like gameplays ill be thankful if u send one. Can learn from u
fossil wolf
Best character ever
open agate
Using sair has been stucked to my brian
open agate
yeah I don't approach w/ sair much anymore since it's too punishing
How do u approach then?
I dont think i play with bots. They di rematches but they are just not as good as like decent
Whats ur perks btw
cosmic meadow
normally hover in air till they attack
celest mural
normally hover in air till they attack
Do use a controller? If so d-pad or analog for movement?
cosmic meadow
Do use a controller? If so d-pad or analog for movement?
keyboard
but I would use dpad on controller
open agate
I use dpad too
Nah man i cant do ur playstyle i just dont get it. It works on passive chaarcters but on aggressive nah since they have mor epriprity
Ill come back to him when he is buff
cosmic meadow
how it be
open agate
I get close right but like idk what moves to use nair? Its too slow the bite thing can really punish me alot if i miss
cosmic meadow
yeah he's not in the best position
open agate
I think I'll stick to rick. Using alot of characters has been messing me up. Sometimes I just stand mid match and pause because I forgot what moves I should be using
Like your brain goes blank
celest mural
but I would use dpad on controller
really how come?
open agate
Just try dpad. It does better inputs and movements
celest mural
Just try dpad. It does better inputs and movements
but for jake is analog not better for aiming his forward air?
open agate
but for jake is analog not better for aiming his forward air?
Actually aiming is easy on dpad
And better imo
I also use it on marvin's up attack
mossy linden
Who y’all hate playing against the most as Jake? For me it’s wonder woman
celest mural
Who y’all hate playing against the most as Jake? For me it’s wonder woman
Joker or harley
mossy linden
Joker or harley
Damn I hate harleys
What characters do u find the easiest to vs? For me it’s Jason and Rick
celest mural
NOT rick lol
i fought an amazing rick who knew his combos in and out
i fought tooth and nail to barely beat him
Jason is by far the easiest to counter as jake
fighting harley as jake is so boring
u have to be so unbelievably safe
open agate
Rick's playstyle is so boring rn for me
After usin many characters i cant do his portal combos anymore so I might come back to him
celest mural
ricks portal potential is insane
open agate
Fs
open agate
Jason is by far the easiest to counter as jake
Jason is just really a combo punching bag
mossy linden
NOT rick lol
Yeah it really depends on player skill a good Rick is a big problem
When Rick shoots his gun it’s so easy to go horse under the bullets and get easy dmg on Rick
mossy linden
u have to be so unbelievably safe
Fr her hits are so powerful
I struggle to get near wonder woman she always uses a move where she becomes literally untouchable whenever I charge at her
celest mural
Jakes playstyle rn is way too specials reliant
Combos are slow and are almost never true
mossy linden
Combos are slow and are almost never true
Ikr! It’s like every character is faster than Jake.
celest mural
Jake is really lacking in safe moves too
Because hes constantly throwing his own hurtbox around
Hes very easy to punish with characters like harley
I also noticed finns can really apply pressure on jake
mossy linden
Jake is really lacking in safe moves too
Fr
I feel like his only safe move is the long punch, which can be very predictable
celest mural
Even that is unsafe
mossy linden
I also noticed finns can really apply pressure on jake
Yeah when they spam the up backpack it’s just domination tbh
celest mural
Ur throwing a large hurtbox to ur enemy to hit
Rn jakes forward air is too much of a double edged sword
And down special needa more priority
mossy linden
Ur throwing a large hurtbox to ur enemy to hit
Oh damn I didn’t even know his fist had a hitbox
mossy linden
And down special needa more priority
Yep they deffo need to be more ‘heavy’ idk how im getting jabbed when I just turned into a house.
celest mural
Oh damn I didn’t even know his fist had a hitbox
Yup meaning if an enemy hits or grabs ur fist it counts as hitting you
mossy linden
Yup meaning if an enemy hits or grabs ur fist it counts as hitting you
Yeah it always confused me when I got damaged from doing it
celest mural
Same for axe upsmash
open agate
But jake2free is good really
mossy linden
Ill try stripe soon he seems fun
Yea he’s so gd
open agate
I 1v1 him he plays jake si differently
celest mural
I 1v1 him he plays jake si differently
How so
open agate
U can say he is good at punishing
mossy linden
Jake’s down special rly needs to be more punishing tho
open agate
How so
Try to 1v1 him. He can kill u o to death
He doesnt play sair. He is very aggressive
celest mural
Try to 1v1 him. He can kill u o to death
With upspecials and upairs i assume
Probably some bites thrown in
open agate
With upspecials and upairs i assume
No he bites u
He doenst do ladder combos
He kills to the side
He is also very fast. His aggressive aproach is gud he knows what moves to use
Until now i cant replicate what he did
celest mural
Forward airs and bites?
celest mural
Well bite isnt gonna kill at low percents
open agate
He did tho
celest mural
Sounds like bad DI
celest mural
bite and spit off stage?
open agate
Basically he is a good at punishing
open agate
bite and spit off stage?
He gets close to u not giving a soace
Nair bite skateboard
Idk what move she uses
Then he bites spits bites and then u get thrown off in the blast zone
Bc even if i di out of it he knows mix up very well
Maybe i am just bad but he is definitely the best jake playstyle
U can bsckread maybe u will get slme info
open agate
@cosmic meadow u should send clips of ur gameplays sometimes. It'll help for some jake players
fresh rapids
Still trying to master jake...
I hate how he's one of the worse characters in the game but my brain forces me to play him out of nostalgia for the character 😭
open agate
Well don't. U will get disapointed and lose motivation
Anyways jake2free needs EM CLIPs i need to study his playstyle
Just have fun ofc
fresh rapids
I'll give tips that I discover in this thread as well
Wish you could see frame data like in SF6 in training mode
And being able to customize the ai to do certain strategies
Prob asking for too much though
open agate
Hey it isnt. A fighting game needs those
fresh rapids
Also sucks that in the Discord you have to choose between having access to competitive or casual lfg channels
fresh rapids
I'm bout to become Tiffany
(Adventure Time reference if you get it)
open agate
If marceline becomes a character it's over or even ice king
open agate
I'm bout to become Tiffany
(Adventure Time reference if you get it)
The obssess guy
I want a wizard jake or eizard fin skin
fresh rapids
From that one episode where Finn and Jake learned magic?
It'd also be cool if there was a skin of the sweater and glove Finn wore the first time he fought the Lich.
fresh rapids
Also maybe it's just me but
Kind of seems like they're doing everything they can to get you to pay for this game
Like they're pushing the idea that most things in the game are going to be paid for
open agate
Yeah its a scummy practice and I hate it. They even said something that it was a "bug"
fresh rapids
FR, I was asking around to see if people really fell for that...
Such a blatant feature, and they call it a bug of all things...
Even if they had meant to leave it out, they clearly planned for it to be in the game at some point.
open agate
I blame wb for that. They forced launch even tho the devs warned them alota things is brokena and not finish
Player first games wanna make a masterpiece
Wb wanna make money
fresh rapids
Also, the fact the entire roster is locked behind currency is wild.
The sheer amount of grinding you'd have to do to unlock them all for free...
open agate
Atleast make it 1k. All of the free rewards are perk currencies like whaat? Why isnt the perks just the rewards for mastery level
fresh rapids
And with the fact that Joker, objectively the best character, costs TWICE as much as the other characters, it's hard to say this isn't a "pay to win" game.
wary sage
Who y’all hate playing against the most as Jake? For me it’s wonder woman
Steven I cannot for the life of me counter a Steven unless he has 12 wins
fresh rapids
Suprisingly I haven't come across either of those.
I remember having issues with Finn though, I think.
open agate
Steven I cannot for the life of me counter a Steven unless he has 12 wins
That clone really annoys me
fresh rapids
So, I'm back from some Jake practicing...
I learned he becomes a lot better if you utilize the dodge in a good way.
For example, you can use the dodge for a quick recovery from his sluggish 3-Hit combo.
You can use it to juggle players and you can also use it to prolong a combo by dodging behing them mid-combo.
this video distorted my perception of reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYj-rX8ZXrs
Jake is GOOD!?
open agate
Sair shouldnt be use often
Idk jake2free hasnt send any gameplay
His jake is the one i wanna learn
full ridge
Is it possible to mash to escape Jake's bite attack once you're in his belly? It seems like doing so does nothing except eat my jump inputs, so I fall if off-stage.
clear jackal
this video distorted my perception of reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY...
Nah that guy is lowkey waffling
He said mace is way better than dtilt which is such a crazy stretch
open agate
Thanks
open agate
Ur actuallly really good at hitting the eat move
cosmic meadow
yeah it's pretty easy to punish with
and if they jump after eat it's game over
so they'll prob drop down next time you do it, then you just side air them
get in their head lol
open agate
Dang its more clearer now
So yeah thats alot to sacrafice for like fancy combos but its a really effective playstyle
open agate
Im sure we have been saying that everyday since launch
clear jackal
Im sure we have been saying that everyday since launch
Realll
open agate
They HAVE to fix him
celest mural
They HAVE to fix him
so true
celest mural
@cosmic meadow Dpad or analog stick for movement?
cosmic meadow
<@339114068566736897> Dpad or analog stick for movement?
dpad
mossy linden
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/i2sI4swFgryetigCZ/d1337Kr0Txzu?invite=c...
Spit them out onto the side wall it’s better trust
in opportunities where u can^
cosmic meadow
Why just curious
more accurate
cosmic meadow
Spit them out onto the side wall it’s better trust
ye ik, going for the gimp though
muted lance
....I think I may have found a double jake team that kicked my butt
lean wave
i’ve seen so many double jake’s using the bite chain 😭
strange cedar
That's hilarious never thought of that 💀
lean wave
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/i2PJPEoYBVtfZGZAM/d13370DVme9k?invite=c...
bro that is absolutely insane
made me happy to see a banana guard get man handled like that
cosmic meadow
lol
cosmic meadow
made me happy to see a banana guard get man handled like that
some more banana therapy
lean wave
some more banana therapy
god bless you, i should start paying u instead of my therapist
cosmic meadow
cash only
lean wave
i can agree with that 🙏
fresh rapids
I hope so...
exotic forge
Errrm what Jake patch gulp
fresh rapids
He needs to be buffed 😭
I mean he's not bad in particular but
He's still a lot worse than other characters
He's slow and has too many hurtboxes
We must rally for the jake buff
We must become an unstoppable army
hollow seal
I’m not a Jake main but, buff Jake please
I hate playing Jake but there are some decent players and going against them isn’t that bad
winter bronze
I got vored by a jake player who jumped off a cliff
hollow seal
Yeahhh that happens
brittle jackal
I got vored by a jake player who jumped off a cliff
Jake relies on his neutral special now
No seriously the move is one of his redeeming factors since it garentees kills & cheese
fresh rapids
I like how we're at the top of the members list
just because we play on consoles
💀
brittle jackal
I mainly play on PC...
fresh rapids
Ah, your role said xbox
brittle jackal
Oh yeah I was a Xbox player in the beta and I first played full launch on Xbox too
timber sentinel
Jake needs a buff fix his hit box make it so his down air, special and attack are faster also Jake’s down air special is the most useless special in the game now because no matter when you use it you will get hit the house should have priority hit not always get countered when you use it
radiant stratus
is jake a fun character?
been thinking about adding a secondary after having mained stripe
agile fractal
He’s Fun But Not Worth Using In The Meta Atm.
radiant stratus
He’s Fun But Not Worth Using In The Meta Atm.
im a casual player (until i get better) so am just using whats fun
frail canyon
im a casual player (until i get better) so am just using whats fun
yes jake is completely fine for everything but the most elite level of play
vale skiff
jake is so hard to play
prisma flower
Jake balance suggestions:
Up attack aerial:
- second hit comes out faster after hitting first hit.
Up attack grounded:
- the extended hurtbox of Jakes arm axe now has super armor so you can still get hit on the arm while charging but not interrupted.
Up special:
- the opponent should now always be launched towards jakes head for more consistent setups.
Down special:
Rework: Change the house move into a nuke that acts similar to Kirby’s down special from smash except the nuke has a fairly long start up for Jake to transform before dropping quickly and bringing down everyone with it to land where a big explosion occurs of Jake inflating real big and sending opponents flying. The move would have 20 second cooldown and the on cooldown variation would be current Jake house move.
Feel free to discuss and suggest
prisma flower
Oh yeah it switches sometimes
fresh rapids
If it just had more range
fresh rapids
His speed might not be a problem if his moveset was actually good
My personal suggestions
prisma flower
It’s a weird character cause sair is the only one that has range so you end up spamming that and his close range moves then aren’t used that much
Also nair and up air having second hits makes it even weirder to use
but I don’t main the character so what do I know
fresh rapids
My personal suggestions
Car/Boat/House Should Have Super Armor
Horse Should Have Super Armor If It Gets Past Startup
Side Ground 3-Hit Combo Should Come Out Slightly Faster
Stretch Should Be Faster
Skateboard Should Descend Faster
Down Ground Should Have More Range
fresh rapids
Still just trying to make the most of the time I've got before ranked
Aiming to become #1 Jake (I know how ambitious that is)
river turtle
Pls write True Combos/ normal Combos w/Jake
fresh rapids
It's not the best but
After successfully doing the 3 skateboards you can follow it up with bite
Then you can shoot the enemy onto a wall for the best damage
He doesn't have many combos tbh
fresh rapids
My glorious king Jake will get a buff eventually
We are approaching the day when we will finally be freed from the torture
wary sage
he is not the honored one
frosty belfry
does jake have any real combos
like i’m not talking like 4 hits i mean a real combo
wary sage
yeah
celest mural
Im sharpening my pitchfork just in case
wary sage
its probably gonna be a useless buff
celest mural
U bring the torches
wary sage
like barely anything
celest mural
No hes gonna get the biggest and greatest buff and finally be useable
mossy linden
Time to uninstall
mossy linden
0 reworks is insane
wary sage
are the patch notes out?
muted lance
not yet
everything is still under maintenance
come back in maybe a half hour or so
mossy linden
muted lance
oh
fresh rapids
No jake buff...
mossy linden
🤦♂️
fresh rapids
If anything he's even worse now
frail canyon
https://multiversus.com/en/news/1-02-patch-notes
OHHHH NOOOOOOOOOO
fresh rapids
They buffed everybody BUT him
mossy linden
i thought they listened to their community lol
frail canyon
im gonna die
fresh rapids
At least Harley got nerfed
muted lance
free jake
frail canyon
FREE JAKE BOI
mossy linden
“We are aware of this characters strength” under every op character and does nothing substantial about them
wary sage
real
mossy linden
Could of jus been an announcement tbh
fresh rapids
he's the new velma
That's sadly true
fresh rapids
I hate to say but now jake is probably the worst
He might actually the be worst 😔
clear jackal
Delayed gratification
fresh rapids
Every other character can at least do various combos
clear jackal
The buffs are gonna feel even better when they come
celest mural
The thing is they kinda have to buff him next patch now
Jake being the literal worst
I just hope it’s significant
neat totem
no jake buff is insane
fresh rapids
I have respect for anyone who mains Jake now
clear jackal
Tbf apparently next patch gonna be very balance based
So i assume next one we getting something goood
hard arch
Yay, new patch! Oh, I hope they tweaked Jake!.....
Was what I thought reading the notes. Only to be very disappointed at the end.
neat totem
I have respect for anyone who mains Jake now
i honestly mostly switched to bugs in 2v2 and jason in 1v1
jake somtimes feels unbearable
celest mural
Wasnt the last patchnote 2 weeks ago
hard arch
I find it a slog to even get the daily missions done now.
fresh rapids
Honestly jake might go at the bottom of a tier list
Even Velma got a buff
He has practically nothing going for him
neat totem
yup
celest mural
Wait its been exactly one week since the last buff
neat totem
slow, hits light, little combo possibilities, easily rung out
celest mural
Which means in one more week we should get another
wary sage
i wanted to switch to gizmo
neat totem
bit late
wary sage
but he got like the most nerfs
mossy linden
did Jake’s fist in sair have hitbox in beta? I can’t remember
celest mural
At least to fight as jake
wary sage
no
celest mural
Nope no hurtbox
celest mural
Thats what im saying
clear jackal
Is jake better or worse than garnet
celest mural
Im tired of barely punching a projectile
And getting punished for landing my hit on an enemy
fresh rapids
The determination that it takes to continue maining Jake...
mossy linden
And getting punished for landing my hit on an enemy
Frrr
fresh rapids
It's going to be impossible to even play as him anymore
royal scroll
Nice jake is still useless
fresh rapids
Even if you're skilled you still can't win
neat totem
That needs to get removed lol
that could make his sair feel unbalanced
royal scroll
Even if you're skilled you still can't win
This
wary sage
i am stuck with jake
celest mural
that could make his sair feel unbalanced
No it wouldnt 💀
inland urchin
they took away the most fun part of his kit wich is the skateboard
celest mural
Jake should have range
royal scroll
I could not win with jake. Then i switched to banana guard and just didnt lose
inland urchin
he isnt good nor fun
neat totem
No it wouldnt 💀
i mean people moaned about it all day in beta
royal scroll
The game isnt even about skill anymore it is dependent on ur character
celest mural
i mean people moaned about it all day in beta
Well this game is completely different from how the beta plays
Remember its a lot slower
Moves are punishable now
Dodges are a resource
mossy linden
that could make his sair feel unbalanced
Jake deserves something unbalanced tbh
celest mural
Jake right now feels like u have to be mega mind
mossy linden
It feels like so many other characters have something unbalanced
celest mural
To win
neat totem
yeah but his sair is by far not his worst ability right now
mossy linden
Yeah it’s not
neat totem
not something that urgently needs a buff
celest mural
His worst is his down air
celest mural
They butchered his down air
neat totem
the house is way too slow too
celest mural
The house can be slow but it better out priority every damn move in the game
neat totem
yup the jab is ass
fresh rapids
We actually need to push for the buff. We need to suggest the buffs to the devs somehow
safe falcon
It feels like he's got a lot of tools that are fun to use, but none of them are impactful enough.
celest mural
Dash attack is really bad too
celest mural
We actually need to push for the buff. We need to suggest the buffs to the devs ...
How? I already made a support ticket
fresh rapids
It feels like he's got a lot of tools that are fun to use, but none of them are ...
EXACTLY
clear jackal
Does dash attack have ANY combos?
safe falcon
Like the moves themselves are great, but they need to tweak damage and knockback on a few of them.
I'd be fine with the horse ending sooner if it hit harder. That kind of thing.
celest mural
Horse is fine tbh
Maybe a bit more damage
The last thing we need is any nerfs on jake at all
safe falcon
I also think that one perk should just be his down special in general, not just the house.
marsh yoke
Jake feels a lot more slower then he did in beta
celest mural
Unlike jason jake is a light weight who doesnt deal damage or killpower 🤣
clear jackal
Also why can horse only hit once 😭
safe falcon
It's not strong enough to need to be one of three random results.
celest mural
Also why can horse only hit once 😭
This always bothered me
clear jackal
Its just dumb
copper pawn
How did Jake not get a buff
safe falcon
How did Jake not get a buff
Probably the same way Bugs didn't get a nerf somehow.
Or how Banana Guard once again only got one little tweak. x3
copper pawn
Bugs is now even more over powered
safe falcon
They did it to Harley, he needs it too.
clear jackal
Also have you guys had the thing where your camera gets stuck as if you still have them bited
safe falcon
No, but that sounds awful.
clear jackal
Yeah you have to rebite them while the camera is completely zoomed on you
fresh rapids
We understand this character's powe-
safe falcon
It seems like there are more smaller patches to come soon according to Twitter, so there's still hope for a Jake patch soon I guess.
fresh rapids
The Jake players need a comeback bro
safe falcon
We need the "Aplogizing for being mean to dogs" patch where it's just Jake and Reindog buffs.
safe falcon
For the last few patches Reindog has been getting what little he can do broken more and more.
He really needs a comeback too.
fresh rapids
If only there was somewhere we could give suggestions and the devs would see it
wary sage
is there anyway to extend the camera just a bit to actually see how long i have till my opponent gets out of my bite
safe falcon
If only there was somewhere we could give suggestions and the devs would see it
To be fair they do seem to be more aware of what crowds want on a basic level than most big box fighter titles. You wouldn't get fixes like this in Smash.
fresh rapids
Now that I think about it can you swap side and neutral now
It's just something that kind of puts me off
cosmic meadow
We dodged another patch fellas 
fresh rapids
Just like the players who dodge all of Jake's attacks 😔
Jake is just way too punishable...
radiant stratus
wow they didnt touch jake
fresh rapids
Nearly all of his attacks have an easy-to-hit hurtbox, and he's too slow to stop people from punishing him...
radiant stratus
they touched velma but not jake
they're both pretty bad but i do think velmas worse
even so
did the devs just
forget about jake?
lmfao
wary sage
it really feels like it
safe falcon
Nearly all of his attacks have an easy-to-hit hurtbox, and he's too slow to stop...
God, everytime I actually land that spacing punch move I honestly feel bad for the opponent because how did you step into that?
It's so slow and has soooo much windup.
mossy linden
Same with the upwards axe lmao
safe falcon
Same with the upwards axe lmao
That one you can at least catch people with on the full charge when they're falling, that's more understandable.
wary sage
i have no choice but to keep maining him
fresh rapids
Why not?
wary sage
every character just isn't it for me
safe falcon
"Stand By Your Main"
fresh rapids
Do you not have enough gleamium or FC?
fresh rapids
every character just isn't it for me
Ah
wary sage
i have mained jake for the entire time i played multiversus
fresh rapids
Same
wary sage
i don't know how to play anyone else
safe falcon
I've been learning other characters and playing them more but I do think Jake will still be my overall main.
fresh rapids
I've dabbled with Tom and Jerry but it's mainly been Jake
safe falcon
Despite his deteriorating moveset I can pickup more wins with Reindog than I can with Jake.
He's so rare that people don't know how to deal with him. x3
But Jake has one thing nobody else has:
The Cake skin.
Which means Jake wins.
safe falcon
I'm sure even in this state there exists someone who is cracked with him.
One crazy person always finds a way in games like these.
clear jackal
How much does the battle pass cost
safe falcon
How much does the battle pass cost
I think it's 950 gleamium.
I got it for free for being in the beta so I only have hearsay to go by though. x3
mossy linden
Who here is gonna keep maining jake
I’ll try him out for about 10 games if he’s too ass imma try to master someone new until his buffs come out
ashen echo
aint no way they released a patch today buffing characters no one asked for and nerfing characters that also no one asked for and forgot jake existed
oh my god
radiant stratus
every character just isn't it for me
personally im maining stripe rn
thinking about having jake as a secondary/primary
agile fractal
I’ve Already Mentioned My Thoughts On Jake (I Replied To It So Y’all Can Read If You’d Like.) But All I Can Say Now Is That I Guess We Wait Like 3 Patches? Idk I See It Taking A Bit Of Time Before Jake Gets Buff’s.
(Fair Warning That It Goes On For A Bit Though.)
safe falcon
Might get more into Rick in the meantime, he seems like fun.
agile fractal
Might get more into Rick in the meantime, he seems like fun.
I Get That, I Picked Up Steven, He’s Really Fun.
safe falcon
I grabbed Steven as well but I'm having trouble getting into the groove with him.
umbral oyster
Wth
I'm getting murdered by a Jake rn
Just spacing and using charge punch and charge axe
ashen echo
Just spacing and using charge punch and charge axe
he's a darksouls boss fight
just parry them
fresh rapids
Can you swap side and neutral attacks
After the update
As a smash player, I'm about to lose it
celest mural
Can you swap side and neutral attacks
What does this even mean
So for jakes set
Ur saying swap his jab with bite?
fresh rapids
There was an option in the beta to swap side attacks to the square button
Since those are the basic combo for each character it feels better like that to me
celest mural
So u can map all side attacks to a specific button
Including aerials?
Like forward air long punch
And his jab
ashen echo
Well I 3 stocked them and then beat them again
see lol
fresh rapids
Actually I'll just wait until the update finishes and see if there's and new QOL stuff
umbral oyster
Can you swap side and neutral attacks
its coming in a future patch
fresh rapids
So u can map all side attacks to a specific button
So after some tweaking ive realized you technically can't do this
You can't map both side specials to one button
Which is why the setting was there before
formal canyon
The determination that it takes to continue maining Jake...
I have a lot of fun doing doubles with another jake as your teammate. Me and my homie just constantly use horse and then use interact to ride on the horse for super armor, and then using the chomp to get super armor, it’s pretty fun when you don’t take it serious
fresh rapids
Fighting a finn
New adventure time episode confirmed!?!?!?!
Holy shi jake is useless against finn
mossy linden
I have a lot of fun doing doubles with another jake as your teammate. Me and my ...
Yea its fun when ur teammate actually uses the ride ability lol
ashen echo
i mean what he got, but also didnt, is that he feels twice as faster than before but ig that's for everyone
mossy linden
Jake is still playable, for me at least… but cmon buff him already!🤦♂️
ashen echo
i mean what he got, but also didnt, is that he feels twice as faster than before...
which means that now you can actually pull off combos
formal canyon
He just needs a little more speed
mossy linden
Jake so fun wtf
Faxx😭
clear jackal
Im acc hitting devious clips
mossy linden
Ngl put jake S tier
muted lance
I think the indie devs who are working on this are struggling lol
This is technically an indie game, just backed by WB
wary sage
Ngl put jake S tier
yea give super armor to all of his moves
mossy linden
yea give super armor to all of his moves
🙏🙏🙏
timber sentinel
Seems like the devs absolutely hate Jake and Finn They just can’t compete with other characters and they’re easy knockouts
radiant stratus
Seems like the devs absolutely hate Jake and Finn They just can’t compete with o...
finn is craaazy
really good ringout potential
and some decently easy combos
not to mention a coin bag system and charge moves that u can DI
safe falcon
Oh absolutely, even a Finn that doesn't fully know what they're doing has a good shot.
timber sentinel
His only ring out potential is in his combos if you can’t get them off, then you will have trouble getting a ring out no matter how much coins you have in your bag before he used to be able to knock out people with his backpack in the middle of the map when they’re at 120 damage now it’s 200 damage for in the middle of the map plus that perk that increases his knockback and attack damage the more coins he has in the backpack seems like it doesn’t make a difference with it or without it it’s like it doesn’t even work they should give his up special his knockout potential back. It’s extremely unfair that everyone else can get a ring out very easily with just an up special or side special.or up attack
safe falcon
To be fair his up special used to be too good, to the point that all Finns did is spam it and get easy wins.
Beta Finns were something else.
Speaking of which, I still can't tell if attacks decay or not. If they do it doesn't seem like they did as much as they used to. They need to turn that back up.
timber sentinel
To be fair his up special used to be *too* good, to the point that all Finns did...
That might be somewhat true, but his up special should be on par with everybody else’s. It should be fairly balanced with the same ring out potential as anybody else and Finn and Jake are the only ones who have trouble with that there’s literally pure hatred on those two and Velma
timber sentinel
Speaking of which, I still can't tell if attacks decay or not. If they do it doe...
100% I don’t know why they removed it. I thought it was a good feature to have because it stopped a lot of people from doing the same attack over and over
safe falcon
Jake's up special has always been strange though, especially here where until they patched it using it lagged the match out.
timber sentinel
And it’s really obvious they have pure hatred on those characters because in beta they got Nerfed to the ground then on full release, they got Nerfed even more every good character in beta got even better in full release with additional effects on their specials plus some had no cool downs ect
safe falcon
As for Finn's, I've seen people pretty reliably kill at the top with the backpack, I'm not entirely sure it's as bad as you're making it out to be. Is the issue that you have to be near the blast line to do it? That seems pretty normal.
Just in general a lot of people seem to be freaking out over 100's range kills when that's normal for a game like this, you're only really getting 30-80 range kills with people who are good at combos or setups that are broken.
timber sentinel
Only at the top or if you push them to the side, that’s the only time it works. Other than that you won’t ring them out until they’re at 200 damage it doesn’t really seem normal to me when every other character is better with easy ring outs every character in the game should have the same ring out potential it’s called balance I already know for a fact where they’re headed, and they’re doing the exact same thing as the beta which is weekly rotation of patches of who is the best meta and it definitely doesn’t seem normal when they were Nerfed into the ground initially beta and got Nerfed even more in full release and every other character got even better than before none of that makes any sense
rustic iron
@celest mural i just came across your stream on tiktok lol
i had no clue man, you're super entertaining
best of luck :P
i was like "oh i recognize that name.." and ended up being pleasantly surprised :D
prisma flower
Jake may be the most mid character
I don’t know he feels on the lower end rn. Probably around Velma but definitely better than her
prisma flower
I mean it’s 2s though
celest mural
<@280087518521589762> i just came across your stream on tiktok lol
wow thank u so much!
what was ur tiktok name?
cosmic meadow
Is it just me or the game feels even slower after patch
storm mesa
Whats up Jake bros
fresh rapids
🤜🤛
formal canyon
storm mesa
Any general tips I should know when playing Jake?
rustic iron
what was ur tiktok name?
SizzleLovesJazz with a pfp of my pet guinea pig
mossy linden
Any general tips I should know when playing Jake?
he throws his hitbox around a lot so try not to be predictable
storm mesa
I found this out the hard way lol
I was trying to edge guard wonder women and we traded from a mile away
fresh rapids
So one "combo" I like to do
I do the 3 hit side attack
Then after the enemy is knocked back I dash towards them and use his up axe
They usually don't see it coming for some reason
There's also the classic "slateboard-bite" combo where if you do the 3 skateboard hits correctly you can follow it up with a bite
mossy linden
I was trying to edge guard wonder women and we traded from a mile away
I hate her so much
celest mural
SizzleLovesJazz with a pfp of my pet guinea pig
Oh yeah!! Hopefully it was when i was doing good it took a while to warm up 🤣🤣
mossy linden
There's also the classic "slateboard-bite" combo where if you do the 3 skateboar...
I follow that with a down special normally and it’s a ringout if they have high dmg
static knoll
Can we please fix it to where jake's moves don't take knockback? Especially his sair. Maybe a good compromise is that he takes damage but no knockback as it really ruins a lot of gameplay with him. Thanks!
celest mural
Can we please fix it to where jake's moves don't take knockback? Especially his ...
U shouldnt be punished for landing a direct hit
He shouldnt take any damage
fresh rapids
Imagine if Jake's attacks didn't have hurtboxes
storm mesa
It’s like piranha plant in smash but worse
static knoll
Imagine if Jake's attacks didn't have hurtboxes
Thats what Ive been saying.
mossy linden
It’s so dumb
cobalt kiln
It’s like piranha plant in smash but worse
Atleast pirhana plant has some knockback resistance so he doesn't just get knocked out of his attack by a kitten sneezing, but I swear Jake right now just loses to the dumbest things
Also I wish it was easier to combo into / out of Up-B, like it was in the beta.
the Up-Air hitbox should also extend into Jake's body slightly
storm mesa
Maybe it could have fixed Di, like how Arya up special was
fresh rapids
I'm no lifeing this game so I can be #1 Jake
And yet my win rate is still under 30% 😭
Half the time I lose it isn't even because of skill
His hurtbox legit flies everywhere
His attacks are slow and do less damage than other characters faster attacks
And all this could be fixed so easily with a small patch
But instead thy ignore him to nerf random characters while leaving the broken ones broken
ashen echo
preach
static cliff
On everything, the hurtboxes and random nerfs and pseudo-buffs are garbage but at least they trying
to work something out down the line. Sucks a lot that nothing really changing fully.
static cliff
Half the time I lose it isn't even because of skill
❤️
mossy linden
And yet my win rate is still under 30% 😭
Ngl bro this could be a skill issue
mossy linden
His hurtbox legit flies everywhere
Fr
fresh rapids
Ngl bro this could be a skill issue
Yeah that's partially a skill issue
But still
It's mainly due to getting disconnected and fighting cheap players
static cliff
^
austere aspen
what are how to jake
fresh rapids
What?
fresh rapids
He doesn't really have too many combos tbh...
austere aspen
😟
austere aspen
does he have kill confirms
static cliff
If you can catch them with up attack up attack and then up special and predict where they might try to fall then you can kill people up top who tried jumping above ya ol
safe falcon
does he have kill confirms <:crying_steven:1007095198276407386>
His most reliable is his two hit up attack if they're close enough to the top.
austere aspen
His most reliable is his two hit up attack if they're close enough to the top.
which perk should i use
royal scroll
which perk should i use
i always use the stretch stun
safe falcon
Yeah, the house one is a bit too specific and situational.
static knoll
Top Jake: AMA
fading pasture
austere aspen
how do u even touch iron giant without dying
everyone else has been okay to fight but IG it's just trading 8 damage for 80
mossy linden
how do u even touch iron giant without dying
You need good movement
mossy linden
Personally I find IG as a good matchup because as Jake you move a lot faster, so you need to use jumps and dodges quite a lot just to move around IG and get hits off, a lot of his attacks only use one half of his character so it’s easy to get hits on the half that he isn’t using and he’s generally slow so you can see his attacks coming and easily dodge
I find it easiest to ringout IG from the top as Jake’s up special and punches up can get a nice ringout as IG is tall asf
They find it kinda hard to hit Jake too since he’s much smaller and always jumping around but idk, might not have got a very good IG yet
austere aspen
Personally I find IG as a good matchup because as Jake you move a lot faster, so...
i will attempt this next time i see it but the up special never seems to even take him of the ground and he had no problems hitting me bc anything i do has a hurtbox
i relied on fair a lot and one fair = command grab to death combo
mossy linden
i will attempt this next time i see it but the up special never seems to even ta...
I normally do the up special when IG is already in the air from an attack which is normally successful
But Jake’s head is a hitbox in that so sometimes IG can easily hit it as ur going through him which is annoying
austere aspen
why did they gut Jake like this
mossy linden
i will attempt this next time i see it but the up special never seems to even ta...
When he’s mid attack, try dodge behind and combo up
mossy linden
why did they gut Jake like this
Fr😖
celest mural
So far theres been a patch every Thursday
So maybe next thursday jake will get his buff
brittle sphinx
why did they gut Jake like this
Because he dominated open beta
celest mural
Because he dominated open beta
Yet bugs is still good
A majority of the beta s tiers are still great
And all of them are still better than jake for sure
Except maybe velma but she got buffs
brittle sphinx
Idk I’m just assuming because Superman got gutted too not just Jake and Velma got gutted too, she recently just got buffed
All those characters ran the open beta
wary sage
So maybe next thursday jake will get his buff
i feel like jake still won't get anything
celest mural
I dont think its intentional
Jake and cake have been in the main cinematic trailers with a spotlight on them
They clearly dont dislike the character
Its just they probably dont realize how bad he is
clear jackal
I just think its not their priority
Well it wasnt
But next patch is more balance based
So we should get something
👍
smoky cobalt
Buff Jake
fresh rapids
Thing is even when your good with him he's still just unfair
Thr amount of times I've hit someone and taken damage from it
His damage output feels unfair for how slow it is, you put in a ton of effort and it only does half as much damage as the enemy can easily do
static knoll
This^
static knoll
B U F F J A K E
clear jackal
Objectively best way to fix jake:
- bring back his stall to how it was at the end of beta
- give house and sair some priority (i shouldnt be trading with a sandwich)
- increase the base bite duration by 0.5s (as in how long you can hold them for)
With that he's basically guaranteed at least mid tier
static knoll
Further Guide to fix jake:
Speed up: Neutral attack, skateboard, down special
Remove: Damage/ Knockback from all of his attacks (His sair becomes a punishment to himself if it takes damage from across the map. Theres no way his hits should punish himself often)
If you fix above, then you can nerf the bite
If you dont agree. I could concede that he should maybe take damage for his attacks, but no knockback
I never use his double neutral attack move (puff into spin) because it is wayyy too slow
clear jackal
Further Guide to fix jake:
Speed up: Neutral attack, skateboard, down special
R...
Oh yeah i forgot skateboard
I dont think it should be a 100% conversion rate but rn the second hit is like a millenium after the firs
t
Honestly i think sair having a hurtbox isnt horrible, it just has no prio which sucks
fresh rapids
Further Guide to fix jake:
Speed up: Neutral attack, skateboard, down special
R...
One of the best suggestions tbh
I don't know any other character that punishes themselves as much as jake
static knoll
One of the best suggestions tbh
IVe put in so many hours into jake in the beta and now, and these are the biggest issues with him currently! Thanks!
cosmic meadow
yeah his skatboard is butchered
static knoll
So, Devs. If you see this, it seems as though the Jake The Dog Community agrees on these terms for the character patch. Please implement these changes accordingly! If so, Jake will be viable to use! Thank you!
celest mural
So, Devs. If you see this, it seems as though the Jake The Dog Community agrees ...
Chances are ur better off responding to one of their tweets
To get a response
static knoll
What, they don't read the "Game Feedback" channel? Makes sense!
celest mural
What, they don't read the "Game Feedback" channel? Makes sense!
Im sure they skim it over for sure
But from my experience ive only ever seen them reply via twitter
static knoll
I hope they see our concerns with Jake!
agile fractal
Also Dont Forget About Tickets
ashen echo
''Jake
- Air Down Attack - Removed instant cancel out of the attack to prevent skateboard infinites
No longer bounces off allies - Ground Up Attack - Additional whiff recovery; Slightly later charge cancel window to make it a bit more committal''
hold on
did they nerf him
on the up ground axe attack
Is it?
a true true
can he still bounce off allies tho?
i remember bouncing on my allies heads with the skateboard on beta
seems they removed it just after i quit the game
ashen echo
i clipped some bulllshite too
static knoll
Dear PlayerFirstGames and WB Games Staff,
I hope this message finds you well. As an enthusiastic player of MultiVersus, I have some suggestions for improving the balance and gameplay experience for the character Jake the Dog.
Speed Adjustments: I've noticed that Jake's neutral attack, skateboard, and down special moves could benefit from a speed increase. The current speed of these moves often puts Jake at a disadvantage during gameplay.
Damage and Knockback: Currently, all of Jake's attacks cause damage and knockback to himself, particularly his sair move. This often results in self-punishment, especially when damage is taken from across the map. I suggest removing or reducing the self-inflicted damage and knockback from his attacks.
2a. If the reason this is a thing, is because Jake uses his body to attack:
He is elastic, so the energy that impacts him for attacking is evenly distributed through his elastic body so that he takes no damage (such as vibranium from Marvel)
Batman also kicks and doesn't get affected by attacks to his legs.
Double Neutral Attack Move: The double neutral attack move (puff into spin) is currently too slow to be effectively used in gameplay. I suggest increasing its speed or reworking it to make it more viable.
Alternative Suggestion: If there's disagreement with the above points, I propose a compromise where Jake could still take MINOR damage from his attacks, but without any knockback. This could help prevent self-punishment while maintaining some level of challenge. However, that wouldn't make sense (See bullet point 2 subsection)
Priority: Jake's moves do not have very good priority. Often, all other characters punish him because of his low priority.
Thank you for considering my suggestions. I believe these changes could greatly enhance the gameplay experience for those who choose Jake the Dog as their character.
Note: Skateboard is very inconsistent due to the "floatiness" people mention with that move and doesn't often land second board
Bug: Garnett often doesnt get projectile spit when Jake eats her under certain cirumstances. She often lands directly below him without any stun or knockback, punishing Jake. (I have video of this
I can send the video privately if u wannna see
Or ill post to clips
ashen echo
i clipped some bulllshite too
https://outplayed.tv/media/wBOnoV such as this.
ashen echo
Dear PlayerFirstGames and WB Games Staff,
I hope this message finds you well. A...
what moves gives jake damage?
ashen echo
The punch
you phrased that poorly
you made it look like he punches people and takes damage
static knoll
Okay how to reword
ashen echo
Okay how to reword
'' he has hurtboxes on his dair and up ground attack, making it easy for anyone to punish him and zone his own attacks''
you can actually destroy those with sair special
static knoll
Ty @ashen echo sorry I word things weird
ashen echo
did you know that you can turn harley box against her with that
sorry i meant dair
special
https://outplayed.tv/media/KxZX4z like you can really just do stuff like these against them
clipped by me
ye ik i went agaisnt those
static knoll
Jake has a great kit its just not optimized
ashen echo
they spammed dair and any time they did that i turned into a car
its not really about killing her with the box, the box isnt a kill move anyways
its about iliminating it to decrease her zoning capacity
i never succeded in transforming it into mine without making it explode, it doesnt hurt you tho
i'll use my jake art as my pfp too hold on 😭
much better
ashen echo
i got calico cake
brittle sphinx
i have the cake skin but im tired of it now
ashen echo
rifts skin?
i never heard of rift skin
oh true
i dont really like it, not gonna strive for that
brittle sphinx
mann i forget how the original jake sounds cause ive had cake since it came out 😭
like the skin or in the show
ashen echo
mann i forget how the original jake sounds cause ive had cake since it came out ...
i have calico cake but i only use jake because i like him better as a character
brittle sphinx
agreed
brittle sphinx
i have calico cake but i only use jake because i like him better as a character
valid
frr
i was playing against the starchild jake and the stretchy move looks so glitchy but its so cool
like the color be changing rapidly
ashen echo
i've only went agaisnt one star child jake ever and it was on beta
brittle sphinx
does it just stay blue for u
oh maybe it is just me
factsss
literally
what tier u at rn
ashen echo
yea no one is that far either
idk which tier is it, but i'm on the second one after you scroll twice
ashen echo
he's that character
brittle sphinx
i mean not too far since we grinded to 30 before we even got the battlepass xp change
ashen echo
that only those with true skill and love for the game strive for
brittle sphinx
i havent even played rifts except for if i wanted to get a mission done
ashen echo
i dont even have friends to help me on those
😭
i still havent figured out what the stars are for
brittle sphinx
apparently like if u know someone that already beat the bosses u can have them inv u to it and u get the reword for beating that boss too
ashen echo
pretty sure the game tells you that your friend dont have that level unlocked and when you both play it your friend doesnt get rewarded
brittle sphinx
that would make sense
it worked for me on the first one tho then i never tried it again
fresh rapids
I actually hadn't thought about that
brittle sphinx
sheesh couldnt even approach this morty because of arm hurtbox smh
static knoll
Support forwarded my Jake Patch notes to the team
and the hurtbox was denoted there
brittle sphinx
good looks
fresh rapids
Support forwarded my Jake Patch notes to the team
YO, sick.
fresh rapids
Okay that's just unfair
fresh rapids
Yeah I saw it
static knoll
Okay. Thanks!
fresh rapids
BTW, if any Jake mains here want to 1v1 lmk
Want to take every opportunity to get better at him
Beat the last Jake I fought but still probably not the best by far
YTHamster
I'll hop on
BTW if I kill myself it's prob because my wifi made made me start lagging
It's been cutting on and off
Nope
Gg
Wifi
💀
Ye
It shows I'm in the lobby for custom game
I may have to leave
Alr invite me again
Either I suck or you're really good 😭
I jumped myself to death 💀
Gg tho
Well I learned Jake can kill way earlier than I thought he could with that air combo
Usually I just damage the opponent as much as possible and then try to off them with his fully charged ground up
True
I'll definitely try to incorporate some new stuff into my jake playstyle after that
celest mural
I played as jake on my live all day today
we got a ton of wins but my goodness it felt like a war
im worn out from using my brain on 200% capacity LOL
u have to literally predict EVERYthing ur opponent does with jakes current state
This character needs buffs more than anyone else in the roster and its not even close
mossy linden
I played as jake on my live all day today
W stream btw
celest mural
W stream btw
HEY! and thank you so much! I was really happy to see u there!!
fresh rapids
I played as jake on my live all day today
Would have joined, had I known you were streaming
celest mural
Would have joined, had I known you were streaming
Thanks a ton cascade! Well ur always welcome 🙂
fresh rapids
Actually I may start doing multiversus lives on YouTube, haven't touched my channel in a long time but it could make for good content
royal scroll
not gonna touch multiversus until they fix jake
and most hitboxes
mainly jake though
royal scroll
hitboxes are fine
did they fix the hitboxes?
When i played launch week i had attacks going through opponents
thin sequoia
Assuming inside of a vacuum this character wasn't as bad as he feels rn
What're some optimal attack routes to learn with this guy?
austere aspen
Assuming inside of a vacuum this character wasn't as bad as he feels rn
What're ...
streets said there are none
i have been jab 12 dtilt into fair fair fair fair fair
and fair fair fair fair
or fair dair dair dair
and up air 1 2 up special with sticky perk for early kills
oh and jab 1 2 up tilt
thin sequoia
It did feel like I couldn't land any sequences longer than committing heavy to x number of skateboard hits>nair>and usually punishing a randomly mashed dodge in after that with sair
I was hoping there was something consistent in the realm of actual strings but I've mostly only gotten cheese to work to win any games
austere aspen
I was hoping there was something consistent in the realm of actual strings but I...
exact same experience
going to try to lab something but they stole his sauce and idk if there's any left to find
thin sequoia
The funniest thing to me was dying to a wonder woman holding uptilt charge and dying because I tried to punish them with sair and got beaten out by said uptilt because hand is hurtbox
thin sequoia
going to try to lab *something* but they stole his sauce and idk if there's any ...
I'll be a lab guinea pig if anyone wants by actually dodging out of hitstun unlike the lab dummy
austere aspen
my favorite was dying to Toms death zone bc of fair hurtbox
thin sequoia
Long reaching aerial sortve means nothing if you risk dying trying to space with it
What a tragedy
austere aspen
got setup trying to actually punish him for just throwing out moves 😭
bros playing a single player game on the other end of the stage against jake
thin sequoia
I did have some fun against one iron giant player by doing nair into skateboard over and over again because they refused to press an appropriate response to it
austere aspen
i have to try that bc i got annihilated by an iron giant, they just react grabbed all my moves and i would get snatched from across the stage or behind him
thin sequoia
But the legit only fun I've had is throwing my ones games just dash dancing and killing myself over and over
The iron giant I did that to was p bad and didn't at all actually do any of the ig cheese. But I was parrying them on everything which was cooo
muted lance
I've seen dair dair dair nair
celest mural
Day #17 of suffering with jake 🫡
Dude i played wonderwoman for a few games just to play a meta character for a change
Its basically impossible to lose
fresh rapids
Tom and Jerry is starting to become really tempting ngl
celest mural
Tom and Jerry is starting to become really tempting ngl
They are really fun
fresh rapids
I don't know how much longer I can do Jake 😭
celest mural
Jake feels like you have to put ur heart and soul into playing him just to barely secure wins
Like every match is a battlefield
fresh rapids
That feeling when you're doing good after whaling on the enemy for a while but they catch up to your damage in seconds
celest mural
Meanwhile i know the joker im fighting is just spacing out 🤣
celest mural
That feeling when you're doing good after whaling on the enemy for a while but t...
IKR
fresh rapids
🥺
celest mural
how is jake even considered a bruiser
fresh rapids
The only thing bruised is my ego
celest mural
Il do an elaborate non true combo and get them to 30%
They jab me and they get the same.
Or higher as wonderwoman 🤣
fresh rapids
It's always a losing battle with Jake...
You have to lock in just to do the bare minimum
Meanwhile other characters are doing it with one hand
fresh rapids
Frfr
celest mural
Playing jake makes average enemy players basically have a professionals level of advantage
fresh rapids
I feel like if he did more damage his slowness might be worth it
But as of rn it's not worth it at all
Most characters do more damage faster
celest mural
On top of all this jake is a light weight 🤣
No survivability
No damage
No kill power
No safe moves
No fast moves
fresh rapids
Well his ups in general have kill power
Nothing else really does
He doesn't have any safe moves because he is WAY too punishable
If you swallow garnet she can literally punish you for it
If you punch anybody who's attacking in the opposite direction of you YOU CAN STILL GET HIT BY THE ATTACK BECAUSE YOUR FIST HAS A HURTBOX
Like somebody could be facing to the right and attacking
You could be behind them
You hit them while they're attacking
And you're the one to get hit
celest mural
If you swallow garnet she can literally punish you for it
I noticed garnet can avoid the knockback entirely which has to be a glitch
celest mural
Well his ups in general have kill power
Yeah but they have hurtboxes and arent safe and nothing else does 🤣
celest mural
I know they have hurtboxes because batman can down aerial them
celest mural
Do you think it'd be fair if his attacks had no hurtboxes at all
Absolutely fair
fresh rapids
Tbh yeah
celest mural
Thats how ranged characters in every fighting game work
Lmao
Look at min min in smash ultimate
fresh rapids
Tbh I feel like Jake could be fine as is if he just didn't have the hurtboxes and his attacks did more damage
celest mural
Whats the point of range if ur throwing ur weakness out there too
fresh rapids
Whats the point of range if ur throwing ur weakness out there too
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