The Iron Giant

[shy shore]

removed

well at least hes getting fixed

yea

thats all tnat matters

i cant imagine another broken giant character

eather kong or godzilla

but im glad hes getting fixed cuz i did noticed it too

that he had a infinite attack

to me hes nnot weak cuz i find his attacks balanced

but the infinite

i can agree was unfair

[distant bronze]

He had 3, 0 to deaths and an infinite he was combo food but he wasn't bad he did big damage but unlike Jason he's disadvantage is terrible, Jason has options like if Jason Parryed you while doing a top blast zone combo you just died and side special actually activities fast enough to end some combo strings and is a good escape tool if used correctly that's why I think Jason is good where he's at, master parry and you'll win a lot

[shy shore]

yeah jason is a good tactic against him

ive noticed weak points for iron giant to be venerable like his main car smash attack players can seek behind him very quickly cuz hes slow with that attack and the car attack is strong which is why its slow

so he is a strong character which is why hes very very tanking and slow i cant imagine him running

he can run like he did in the movie but im glad he doesnt run cuz it would be very broken

[distant bronze]

If your iron giant and has to fight Quinn Arya bugs batman and shaggy you basically died half the time unless you had your special otherwise that stock was almost always goodbye

[shy shore]

well yeah but

i usually come across players who dont know how to play at first which maby explains why its easly lol

you are right about it

[distant bronze]

Well yes speed is good but when you had a move that covers most of things in front of you speed isn't a big deal tho I'm scared that through this to make him not have infinites he won't be able to combo a lot but will figure out how to make him viable

[shy shore]

to be honest hes not a bad character if you know how to use him ive play ed him most of the time in the open beta

[distant bronze]

By that I mean I meet 5 iron giants playing as those character and they did escape once they could have been bad probably wore but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were trying

[shy shore]

yeah

what also makes his a good character is that he can fly

[distant bronze]

He's probably really the only beta character that fully benefited from the game being slowed down

[shy shore]

and has a good recovery

[distant bronze]

That fly if used correctly is broke but I also feel it was slowen down from the beta but not sure

[shy shore]

and i think so too

his thrusters comeback quiclky

which im glad that it is that

[rare moat]

Which will be done by nerfing him

[shy shore]

theres a difference between a loop and an infinite man

infinites are straightup broken and should never be in a platform fighter

[rare moat]

This is just a constant no matter how u look atit

[shy shore]

loops arent and stop at some point

[rare moat]

I'm not defending infinites

But in order to nerf his infinite they needa ruin the starter is the route I assume they will take

Which will be a nerf

Ig getting nerfed is bros cannon event

[sinful dust]

Oh he had more than just 3 zero to deaths. In fact, he had at least 3 different infinites. And he had additional ToD combos on top of that due to how insane the knockback on his burst is. And he had the ability to instantly reversal kill anyone who was comboing him with his burst. Like he unironically might have been the most broken platform fighter character ever

But I don’t think PFG’s intention is to nerf him into the ground. They just need to fix his infinites. The changes to his jab, nair, and dtilt will likely remove those infinites, but I’d imagine he’d still have combos like jab nair sair or jab dtilt sair

Next, they just need to massively tone down the knockback on his burst and not allow him to cancel his grab with a taunt

And he should be fine

[rich vigil]

Brawl Metaknight still takes the cake for most broken platform fighter character

And about the burst combo reversal, just don't juggle that close to the blastzone lol

[sinful dust]

Idk man Brawl MK is definitely in contention, but he never had infinites and he does have weaknesses like being light and having a bad grab release trajectory (Brawl vet btw)

IG’s only weakness of being big and comboable is negated by the fact that his burst can be done in hitstun and kills extremely early

[sinful dust]

So basically, tell half the cast to just not try to actually go for a kill against IG and only try to kill him with moves near the ground letting him live until well past 200%

In a game where most characters die at around 100, having a reversal kill option that you can do in hitstun that kills at any percent if you’re halfway to the top blast zone is insanely overpowered because now he basically can’t die outside of getting hit by a raw kill move

And those are super telegraphed

[rich vigil]

Brawl Metaknight could literally take one stock and then glitch behind the map and become intangible and win via timeout

[rich vigil]

It's also a lot easier to get iron giant to 200% than you'd think. You can very easily get 80+% off of one string on IG

[sinful dust]

Yeah, and that was banned in tournaments immediately when it was discovered

And besides, even doing that requires a lot of endurance. To perform it, you’d need to down b and then mash up smash something like at least 4-5 times per second over the course of an 8 minute game while still holding the B button

[rich vigil]

Well if we're gonna ignore banned tactics then Iron Giant's infinites aren't even relevant because they were also banned from tournaments. Without infinites, Iron Giant is much worse than brawl Metaknight

[sinful dust]

Technically I don’t think all of them were banned

Also, I just want to point out that SSC last year for Brawl was won by the current best player going solo Ice Climbers

Because he believes Ice Climbers are better than Meta Knight

[rich vigil]

Ice Climbers is also very good yeah

I still think Metaknight is better tho

[sinful dust]

I mean, I do too but MK is no longer the uncontested #1

[vivid nebula]

When is bro coming back

[rich vigil]

Probably sometime this week and if he's somehow not, then next week

[shy shore]

Hellow giant lads

[safe matrix]

When pigs fly

[naive depot]

He's in the rift..

HE'S IN THE DAMN RIFT

[mint python]

this makes iron giant to eb the last character added

[dire lotus]

They shouldn’t have added iron giant

That character is so big

[sinful dust]

We need Iron Giant

I’m glad they added him. I just hope they can balance him a bit better

Smash should’ve done the same with Ridley, but they didn’t because they’re cowards

[subtle ember]

going into iron giant withdrawal

[rich vigil]

Real

[gray bobcat]

Just relax you will see him again hopefully when the last event drops.

[subtle ember]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[indigo surge]

Sometimes I can still hear his voice.

Wonder what their decided balance changes will be.

Hope it doesn't mess his flow up too badly.

[elfin furnace]

i have his voiceover, best purchase i made, always with me

[vapid elm]

Not having Iron Giant wouldn't be so bad if there was another huge character. 😔

[sinful dust]

Next best would be Jason because he’s the second largest behind Iron Giant

[simple elm]

do we have any updates?

[shy shore]

this x20

[shy shore]

no 😭

[trim delta]

Iron Giant will return in 2077

[shy shore]

nah he will return soon, he wants to hang out with superman 🤣

[simple elm]

that's prob what he's doing rn lmfao 😭

[trim delta]

hey mods yall forgot to delete this channel. This guy aint in this game!

[mellow coyote]

I miss my main 😭😭😭

[cold mural]

my biggist fear is that they reduce his size. dont be COWARDS like sakurai, who made ridley smaller.

[timid iron]

THAT BROTHER IS GONE

[bright current]

The Iron .

[gray bobcat]

SUPERMAN our true Superman is gone for a limited time.😢

[pulsar glade]

Lowkey glad the character is gone, one step in the right direction from the devs

[rich vigil]

I hope you choke on your hotdog

[polar zealot]

I'm just saying, I called it

[polar zealot]

Bro what (bet)

[shy shore]

“iron deficiency”

[cold mural]

no iron giant still

[bright current]

:(

[cold mural]

how many days without our boy at this point

[south phoenix]

When is he coming back?

Has it been already a week?

[copper pasture]

smoking that iron trash pack

[shy shore]

You main buggs

[copper pasture]

Its been superman for a bit now

[rich vigil]

Yeah

They're supposed to give us an update this week

[tough breach]

I still dont get why hes still disabled if they fixed his infinites... Does he have other issues with him?

[grizzled torrent]

All this reads is skill issue on your end

[sinful dust]

The didn’t fix his grab infinite

Just the nair and dtilt infinites

[pulsar glade]

Not really considering top players were struggling too but ok lmao

[grizzled torrent]

Struggling cause the character was in a state that was fundamentally unfair

Majority of the playerbase hates the characater cause they suck ass

[pulsar glade]

Exactly and he was pretty unfair on full release too so idk what you're getting at

[grizzled torrent]

He was fundamentally unfair on full release due to changes made from beta largely

He was kind of ass after they fixed all the weird bugs he had in beta

[cold mural]

id wanna just see another side special beside grab

im fine with losing it, i never used the infinites, and i rarely grabbed

[echo seal]

same i never grab

or use down special

[echo seal]

nahh rick can turn himself giant

[knotty flame]

Iron Giant Balance Suggestion:
General:

• Add to back as a playable character

Begin Discussion

[stuck oar]

I agree with this. It would make him a lot more balanced

[south phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-giant-im-not-gif-24355530

ReHire him bruh 😭

[pure tiger]

Sounds great, but considering that the reason why Iron Giant was removed was because of infinites, then adding him back into the game to be played infinitely would be counterproductive.
So in order to bring him back while limiting this infinite play exploit I humbly propose that the giant of iron be limited to a set amount of attacks per game, I think 500 attacks and 500 specials sounds fair and balanced.

[lilac pawn]

I've been loving not having IG in the game honestly so much more fun

I had really bad experiences with people abusing IG's infinites and now I don't think I can ever forgive the character after the trauma that gave me😂

It was like every game the last couple days before he was taken out it was torture

[rich vigil]

Fellow iron giants mains, after he comes back we gotta make a comeback and prove to everyone that we weren't carried

[lone flume]

I don’t know why they didn’t take out Bugs Bunny as well. He has the easiest true combo in the game jump, neutral, air, jump, neutral, air, jump, neutral, air, jump, neutral air How can they not see that this is just as much of a problem vault him to and rework the character ASAP

[echo seal]

that was in beta too

[cold mural]

YES!

[rich vigil]

They said in their tweet that they're working on fixing some loops

Also Mirrorman would never stop whining if they took bugs out of the game

[lone flume]

Who cares if that’s his main he should realize himself that his character is broken and cheap Right now he can play someone else like I have been doing because all of my mains got Nerfed into the ground in the beta then they got Nerfed even more in the full release meanwhile every other character that was good in the beta is even better than before with additional effects on their specials some have no cool downs ect It’s straight up ridiculous. They learned nothing in the beta one whole year of beta testing and they couldn’t even balance the game fairly feel like this is going to be déjà vu all over again with a weekly rotation of who is the best character

[lone flume]

It was but at least you could get out of it and at least they had attacked decay so then they couldn’t spam it the whole game and then just finish it off with the baseball bat

[cold mural]

look, im not a bugs main, but everytime iv fought one, its fine. Never have i seen him pop off crazy

[lone flume]

Then you honestly have been really lucky spamming his neutral air is literally an true ♾️ combo

[sinful dust]

Getting jab utilt nair nair nair uair and exploding at 0% by a Bugs on Scooby’s mansion isn’t fun

And pretty much all the good Bugs players can consistently loop nair into itself over and over until uair will kill

Consider yourself lucky you haven’t been looped

[shy shore]

Defo

[rich vigil]

I said that because I defo think they try to cater to him

[shy shore]

He might be back in tjis patch

[simple elm]

if Iron giant isnt back when this patch is done I swear to god

[pure tiger]

. . . 🤖

[cold mural]

Is he back????

I think he might be back

[subtle ember]

finally

[shy shore]

HES BACKKKKKKKK

[pure tiger]

He's alive!

[simple elm]

hell YEH

[sinful dust]

[idle granite]

MY MAIN IS FINALLY BAAAACK

[pure tiger]

Just as the prophecy foretold

[rich vigil]

WE ARE SO BACK

[idle granite]

dude i don't even care about the nerfs at all

i'm just so damn happy he's finally back 😭😭

[spiral ferry]

His break is finally over

[idle granite]

also damn thank god my main is back cause my backup main Gizmo got NERFED NERFED LOL

oh well atleast i still got Marvin

[south phoenix]

FINALLY!!!

[deep idol]

the burst cooldown being increased to 30 seconds was totally uneeded

[lost wagon]

my goat is finally here

[warped nebula]

Damn we got cooked

[full tide]

IG Nerfs aren't that bad actually

[jolly pumice]

Finally! Feels like he's always in a loop of in the shop and playable

[full tide]

You're still gonna be able to do some insane stuff

My guess is we stay winning

[unique forge]

good

unhealthy character

at least one of them got brought to balance

now we just need joker and ww to do the same

[idle granite]

wonder womans and arya starks are the bane of my existence

wonder womans? or wonder women?

[full tide]

I spent 2 hours yesterday proving to people how stupid WW is by spamming side B. Everyone except 2 people ragequit.

[distant talon]

The return

[uneven shore]

I wake up check patch notes and freak out

HES BACK and gizmo was nerfed?

[indigo surge]

does side attack no longer combo itself

i mean full side attack

[vivid nebula]

iron giant has been nerfed to the ground floor

Hes literally air combo practice

[naive depot]

HE'S BACK!!

[uneven shore]

Velma has been replaced

Since shes no longer H O T A S S

shes just bad now

[coral bison]

Hello Iron Giant mains

welcome back to "Your only kill move is getting lucky with aerial side special"

And "I am nothing but a free win for Harley duos"

[indigo surge]

what

That first thing isnt even real

[rich vigil]

What are you on bruh

[echo seal]

i just beat a 4000 win evo 2022 winner s1 #1 spot dude as iron giant in 1v1 lol

he was morty

[coral bison]

(shhhhh let me spread misinformation)

[rich vigil]

Lol

[sinful dust]

Lol

Tbh I don’t think I’ve even seen an IG player kill with aerial side special

[coral bison]

I kill often with it

it's quite reliable

compared to other moves that leave you susceptable to juggling

It's the equivalent of doing a gentle fly-by with an 18wheeler

[sinful dust]

I’ve seen way more uair, aerial up b, neutral attack, sair, and charged utilt after grab

As kill options

You know, excluding people who just fished for the infinite

Which is a pretty small portion

[coral bison]

Oh I've killed with those too, but nothing is more satifying then watching the input lage prevent both players in a 2v2 from reacting to a truck coming at both of them, resulting in the euphoric sound of two KO's and a VICTORY

[sinful dust]

That reminds me

I absolutely need to eventually get more prestige points to get the Shazam ring out

It’s literally always funny

[gray bobcat]

I don't have IG yet but when I do I will play the heck out of him.

[faint gust]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-back-agent-stone-sonic-the-hedgehog2-hes-here-he-has-returned-gif-24204669

Dang

Embeds are off

[indigo surge]

what percent do you have to have them for that move to kill man

i've had easier kills off up attacks

or neutral

[gray bobcat]

You have to have Nitro.

[faint gust]

Embeds aren't nitro exclusive

[gray bobcat]

Oh I thought they were.

[faint gust]

The server owners likely locked embeds behind server boosting

[sinful dust]

They have images and embeds off in every channel except the memes and clips ones

[idle granite]

neutral air > up air kills early iirc

[foggy basin]

How does IG feel like in this new update?
I feel like I might have been spoiled by Gizmo because IG feels like traaaaash now

[timid zodiac]

Does side ground attack combo into IAD nair?

[vivid nebula]

feels slower and way more vulnerable to combos

but hes alright

[warm canyon]

played against a few giants and he still seems solid. didnt really notice his changes too much barring the infinites being gone

nair is a kill move now

[halcyon glade]

THE BOY IS BACK

[shy shore]

He still got an infinite

[dim crane]

he's definetely still good, but lack of combo's feels very sauceless

[ember talon]

iron my giants

[shy shore]

This is so dumb but yet I still laughed 😂

[hoary rune]

so what tier is iron giant now

since the fix and stuf

[cursive lion]

Very bad

[clever bison]

hes useless

[clever bison]

Not even F, G atp

[hoary rune]

LOOOL

im using him rn

pretty rough but kinda fun

[ember talon]

I think I'm making my teammate angry by using him because I've never played him before lol

[full tide]

Is IG that bad? That can't be

[distant talon]

No

Hes good

[full tide]

I was gonna say

[distant talon]

Can still kill at zero in multiple ways

[full tide]

Ain't no way, since he still has some insanely great tools

[distant talon]

Cheesy but strong

[full tide]

TMW IG is more like Superman than Superman

[distant talon]

Basically

[full tide]

I'm happy he's back, but now all my main characters aside IG and T&J are awful

[lyric stirrup]

so are we going to post tech here or is everything gated by an IG discord?

[nova tulip]

Does anyone know any good perk builds for him?

[vivid nebula]

Soo black adam can just spam his lightning up against iron giant and leave you defenseless nice..

[rich vigil]

No he's still pretty strong

[willow patio]

Just got killed by ig at 30😐

They sure they nerfed this dude?

[full tide]

Yes

But he's still strong

[willow patio]

Crazy strong

Prob still S tier

[full tide]

A perhaps

[willow patio]

not really

he still has crazy survivability

combo game

huge damage output on single attacks

and has a 0-D combo

if you do nspecial > nspecial > punch it can kill at 30-40

😂😂

Saying what IG has is complaining now

[worldly hedge]

whats the grab for?

[shy shore]

All these people so comfortable playing their OP characters yet they still come here to complain about IG

[sinful dust]

I was beating IG players who knew how to infinite before he was removed. If you’re still complaining about him, it’s a skill issue

Shaggy isn’t OP

This isn’t me being a Shaggy downplayer

If you unironically think Shaggy is on the level of WW, Joker, pre-patch Gizmo, or Bugs, you’re delusional

IG is just big and the matchup sucks for him

Shaggy is still really good tho

He’s a solid A tier character

Dude if you’re losing to Shaggy side special spam, that’s actually just a skill issue

Shaggy kick spammers are easy to punish

I’ve never lost to a Shaggy kick spammer as any character

Shaggy, Taz, Jason, etc

Just admit you don’t want to find counterplay

If you want to complain about how Hangry Man is OP and Shaggy can farm rage for free, that’s a valid complaint

Because yeah Hangry Man is OP and should be nerfed

Most Shaggy players are trash

They just mindlessly spam kick

Makes me sad to say I play this character

Because people just assume I’m another one of the mindless idiots

Ok sure agree to disagree

But after I finish downloading the patch, it’s time to bully people with IG

[worldly hedge]

whats the grab?

[sinful dust]

You mean his grounded side special?

[oak stump]

Is it just me or does Iron Giant have zero priority on any of his moves

I can't challenge anything it feels

[worldly hedge]

yes i do

[gray bobcat]

Is Iron Giant still s tier or not?

[ember talon]

What signature perks are recommended for iron giant

[sinful dust]

Probably not, but he still feels good imo

[worldly hedge]

does anyone have an answer?

[sinful dust]

I don’t think anyone knows what you’re asking

What about his grab?

[tiny locust]

If you lose to spam isn’t that the definition of skill issue

^ pointing out since you wanted to say someone else had skill issue

[round jolt]

did they massacre my son?

[knotty flame]

Oh

[sinful dust]

No, IG is still really good

[open sage]

Any gameplay? Is he available yet?

[halcyon glade]

gizmo is impossible i think

[sinful dust]

He’s available

[vivid nebula]

Kinda

[indigo surge]

What is op on Shaggy?

[chilly bear]

you cant do nspecial twice?

thats... impossible?

its the bolts right?

[knotty flame]

I heard you guys found another infinite lmao

I guess I’ll wait and see

[indigo surge]

Skill issue if you think Shaggy kick is that oppressive.

Maybe against the literal big body of the roster maybe, but outside of that not really

[sinful dust]

Alright, IG is definitely not bad

Went on a 26 game win streak

Ruined by a Taz because without bolts, Taz just gets a free chicken on IG

Taz jab neutral attack is a straight up 0-chicken lmao

[indigo surge]

I don't even play Shaggy, get out with that.

Don't even know how clumsy in a fight you have to be to draw that Shaggy's kick is that great of a move.

I straight said I don't play Shaggy? What are you on?

Whatever.

[sinful dust]

Ignore him. He’s just salty because he’s bad at whiff punishing

[jaunty mauve]

Let’s not talk about how stupid shaggy is. Let’s talk about how bad iron giant is

[knotty flame]

Don’t worry they will find another infinite to abuse

[jaunty mauve]

I might be switching to Jason at this point. And other characters have infinites this game is buggy af

[knotty flame]

True IG’s we’re pretty consistent though

[sinful dust]

Nah, he’s not bad

But he’s definitely not top tier

“You wouldn’t understand” like dude I played him prepatch too

[knotty flame]

How is he that bad now? I thought they mostly gutted his grab move

[sinful dust]

You’re the one who seems butthurt over everything complaining about Shaggy kick and that IG is ass now

[knotty flame]

When I get home and play him and see

[sinful dust]

His combo game was definitely nerfed and bolts doesn’t just explode people at literally zero. That keeps him from being top tier for sure

[knotty flame]

Then I’ll determine for myself if he is good or not

[uncut bronze]

as an IG main before... yeah they took away a lot of his combo routes and kill confirms

[indigo surge]

Iron Giant air side special and down special should get projectile shield.

[sinful dust]

This I can agree with because that same flaming animation is used for other characters who do have projectile shields

[uncut bronze]

grounded side attack hitbox reduction is very noticeable and the attack gets beat out way more than before

[sinful dust]

And IG just kinda can’t approach heavy zoners

[vivid nebula]

characters like joker can easily combo tf outta iron giant mann

R.I.P 🙏

[pulsar glade]

Harley can too and i loved every bit of those two games, he's kinda like combo practice 🤣🤣

[vivid nebula]

Exactly what i was saying to my friends yoo 😭 😭

[pulsar glade]

🤣🤣🤣

[knotty flame]

Training bot the character

[pulsar glade]

Basically

Lol i love it as a harley main, ect

[knotty flame]

I thought you were Velma main

[pulsar glade]

I am

I main harley, wonder woman, velma, stripe, joker, and garnet

[willow patio]

Whoops I mean air neutral with the rocket boots

[pulsar glade]

I play multiple characters

[willow patio]

They did air neutral, air neutral, punch and I couldn't DI or dodge at all and died at 30

[knotty flame]

Oh ok my bad

[knotty flame]

Insane

[willow patio]

Not bs lol

Maybe it only works on light characters thougu

Though

Have you tried it?

I was already at the height of one jump

Or it was because of the map?

It was on the scooby doo mansion

The ceiling is pretty low

[knotty flame]

Yeah I mean considering a lot of characters can do a similar thing it’s not insane. It’s also pretty situational

[cold mural]

is it just me or is he bigger

[gray bobcat]

You must not like getting pinballed lol.

[tiny locust]

Who was crying? Lil bro

It’s ironic to be the guy to tell other people they have skill issue then cry about not being able to beat a single move on a character it’s so funny

[worldly hedge]

whats it used for?

[round jolt]

iron giant is trash now 😦 300+ wins for nothing )

[weary arch]

why does it feel like his hitbox is bigger than before

I'm getting hit by stuff that not even touching my oily body

[chilly bear]

Also is he like getting killed at lower percentages

Like his knockback is severely increased

And even worse

His jab doesn’t combo anymore

His JAB

JAB

the thing that’s supposed to CONSISTENTLY combo

Doesn’t

[weary arch]

he def feels like hes getting knocked back more than he should

he went from life support to healthy but broke back to life support

[chilly bear]

Like the only thing that even slightly combos is a rocket boots into nair into upair

Like I can still do him

I feel like I’m the only guy that can know how to do him somehow

Narcissistic of me, I know

But like there’s no combos anymore

There’s no hitstun.

Like the only chance you have is rage mode, and at that point you don’t have your dignity. You’re just spamming whatever input you have.

Like… they did stuff to fix infinites on other characters that didn’t outright break their moveset

[floral turret]

rip iron giant, he got nerfed to the ground. As a causal gamer myself and main my giant friend boi, I cannot have fun and I have to play as someone else in MultiVersus.

[vivid nebula]

They did iron giant terrible ngl 🤦‍♂️

I was hoping hed be as good as before he was ripped from the game but naww

[ember talon]

i like how iron giant is supposed to be this kind pacifist and yet he gets to be bullied by all these characters

[warm canyon]

wouldnt go around saying stuff like this. makes you look like a scrub

[warm canyon]

just tryna help you out 🤷‍♂️

[tiny locust]

He’s tryna rage bait I assume

But in the end he looks goofy

Or they

[echo seal]

i use it to keep people from coming back on stage and i get kills that way

like if they're midair i'll go offstage and use that

that one or the side air special

flying punch is a bit predictable

[round jolt]

does you guys' stickers work in game? i can only default emote

[rich vigil]

Not really. He's still very solid.

[rich vigil]

Real!!!

[rich vigil]

Also real!!!

Nah he's right, if you're losing to spam of any move it's a skill issue

[ember talon]

Is it normal to get bullied and comboed as iron giant

[hoary rune]

my IG on the rise

[mellow coyote]

Fellow Giant gamers, how do you deal with Harley? I'm completely stumped here

[rocky stratus]

it’s impossible for iron giant to di out of bugs nair 😂

i’m having too much fun fighting against ig

all 3 of my main characters are able to abuse him so badly

[full tide]

Rip and tear. Read her annoying attacks, break them, Nair, Uair, make her suffer

Still thinking IG is top 5

If not, top 7

[knotty flame]

Yo I just saw a 0 to D combo off a grab with this character lmao

Y’all can just try and spam that now if you can’t make him work

[rocky stratus]

i haven’t fought an iron giant with taz yet but i’m expecting it to be too easy

[chilly bear]

TELL ME

I need a combo, any combo. I literally only have one combo now.

Downair nair upair

And possibly specialupair

[tiny locust]

Sounds like cope to me

[knotty flame]

I don’t know the exact inputs but basically I saw him grab the enemy take him to edge and boosted while doing up special to the top

Have fun labbing it I guess

[rich vigil]

Played for 2 hours last night and got a 75% win rate 🤷 idk about you but that sounds pretty good

[rich vigil]

Its true but you have to follow your opponent's DI perfectly

[rich vigil]

You wanna 1v1

See who's better

[tiny locust]

this guy actually is rage bait theres no shot someone lacks this much common sense

[rich vigil]

Idk there's some noobs out there who think they're that guy

[tiny locust]

maybe

could be funny

esp if he plays ig then it would add up

[rich vigil]

So you wanna 1v1 or not

[tiny locust]

yeah yeah but if we look youve yapped far more than me

[rich vigil]

Alright then, when they're back up

I'll @ you

[tiny locust]

look at logs bud fact check it

[tiny locust]

hed dodge you fast

sounds typical

enjoy being bad

[rich vigil]

Why, you scared?

Scared of losing

[tiny locust]

hes scared of shaggy thats for sure

[rich vigil]

Real!!

[tiny locust]

damn cant counter it so goes for "hes your bf oddball"

bro admits hes bad atleast

[rich vigil]

Surely you're baiting, right stoic?

[tiny locust]

it 100% is and isnt working

this is making me chuckle

[rich vigil]

Bit of a knee slapper

[vivid nebula]

why they mad ? lol

[tiny locust]

whos mad

[rich vigil]

Yeah afaik no one here's upset

[vivid nebula]

for sure 😂

[tiny locust]

if we go off statics comment

this makes void his bf

[vivid nebula]

?

who is static

[tiny locust]

stoic

auto correct

[vivid nebula]

that was difficult

[tiny locust]

yeah like playing against shaggy

[vivid nebula]

I guess?

[rich vigil]

I swear this is the only channel where people just come in and start hating

[tiny locust]

this whole server is just hate and its goofyt

[rich vigil]

Real

[distant talon]

Well I would post things here, but its kind of a shame that you cant post media here, so sorry about that lol

So its easier to share in the IG discord

[rare moat]

Talking all that crap just to dodge a 1v1 is comical

☠️

[vivid nebula]

are the servers up yet?

[rare moat]

If they were up they woulda pinged us

[vivid nebula]

How did bro dodge if the servers are down

[rare moat]

He offered to play after servers are up again, doesn't want to

[vivid nebula]

ooo

[rare moat]

Dude was yapping up a storm like yesterday and today combined

[rich vigil]

They are now according to their Twitter

@neon plume Servers are back up. If you can't play today, I'm free everyday except Sunday from about 10 am to 3pm central time.

[warm canyon]

dudes crying about shaggy spam. not a chance he takes the 1v1 lol

[tiny locust]

@rich vigil what’s your main character

[rich vigil]

The Iron Giant

Mained him since the closed beta

[tiny locust]

Nice

[rich vigil]

Wbu

[regal valley]

so tom and jerry just cant use mousetrap against iron giant

[old fulcrum]

I need a giant

2s anyone

[rich vigil]

Wdym

[rotund flower]

someone pass me a combo

[sterile vine]

dude stop to say that, iron giant is so bad and unplayable, and you complained for a little bug on your charaters seriously, i play just 8 games with him and i winonly one, because he so useless, big, too slow and the new gameplay is not done for him

plus all the players focus him all the time

i cannot make a move with him

he is bully by all the characters

[rich vigil]

Iron Giant is not bad at all, he's actually really good rn.

[rich vigil]

Ftilt dtilt dodge forward repeat

Whenever I'm low on dodge meter I do ftilt to neutral attack to finish off the combo

[regal valley]

hes literally still like top 10

you not winning is a skill issue

[ember talon]

you think iron giant is top 10?

that's good. i want to learn him

[regal valley]

i can only think of 9 maybe 10 characters better

[rich vigil]

I think he's top 5 I'ma be real

[sterile vine]

really just wath this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geOLb7FIbY8

[chilly bear]

Oh thank god thank you

Wait what does tilt mean

[regal valley]

the 30 second clip just says he doesnt have an infinite

which was obvious

[rich vigil]

Grounded side attack = ftilt. Sorry I was using smash terms

Ground down attack = dtilt

[sterile vine]

we can use it too in multiversus

[rich vigil]

Alright well that one guy's opinion settles it. Iron Giant sucks, pack it up everyone, go home

[sterile vine]

i don't say that, i have not all
knowledge, but many tierlist show that and i agree with it because i play this character. i'm not a pro player and not a main iron giant

it jsut my opinion

just*

[rich vigil]

Well, agree to disagree I guess, but I think Iron Giant is very good and other top players also think that. Like Mirrorman, who won't stop whining about Iron Giant because of how busted he thinks he is

[young relic]

I'm completely fine with everything thinking IG is bad. Makes it even funnier when I get high win % with him

[rich vigil]

Lmao true

[regal valley]

if you dont have any knowledge then dont say anything

[lyric stirrup]

where is it?

[rich vigil]

Go to disboard and search up "The Iron Mind"

[knotty flame]

That’s funny cause bugs should be able to nair loop IG

[rich vigil]

He can

[regal valley]

https://twitter.com/Thyraxian/status/1801700087212523699

[rich vigil]

I think anyways

Mirrorman just likes to whine

[knotty flame]

My bad I worded that wrong. I know he can which is funny cause idk why he complaining then

[young relic]

Because bugs spinning his arms over and over again is OK but it's not OK for IG

[rich vigil]

Real

[sinful dust]

No shot he’s complaining when he plays a character who can literally infinite IG with nair if IG doesn’t have bolts

[rich vigil]

Yup that's Mirrorman

Not even an hour of iron giant coming back yesterday and he made a tweet complaing

[chilly bear]

Wait I set bot to dodge away and he just dodged the dtilt

[rich vigil]

Try to buffer dtilt

[chilly bear]

Bro he literally wants no giant characters

Like cmon :(

[rich vigil]

Yeah he's lame

[chilly bear]

I suggested a miniature city map in the chat and one of the mods is like “no thank you” thankfully they’re just angry and not ya know banning people for no reason

[chilly bear]

Sorry a little new to this buffer mechanic, how do I do that?

[rocky stratus]

iron giant vs speedy gonzales

biggest versus smallest

but that’s if they even release him which i don’t think they would

[rich vigil]

Buffering a move means that you input while in the animation of another move/action so that move comes out as fast as possible

While you're in your ftilt animation, input dtilt

[chilly bear]

Yeah I try that and he still gets away

[rich vigil]

Oh

[chilly bear]

How’d you get that combo off?

[rich vigil]

Well it's probably just not a true combo then. I was using it online and sometimes it worked sometimes it didnt

[chilly bear]

Alright well then I found a combo

Neutral air into dodge foward into upair

[glad horizon]

iron giant is so funny

[chilly bear]

Lemme see if I can make it go further

[rich vigil]

Yeah that's one of them

[glad horizon]

you can literally survive 300+ on the 2s adventure time map

its so funny to see people try so hard to kill me just for me to go just up to the edge

[rich vigil]

If you time it right you can do neutral air, into neutral air, into air up special and that combo kills at zero

[rare moat]

Top 10 is sick work

[lyric stirrup]

fake

[tiny locust]

Garnet and black Adam atm for me

[rich vigil]

If you can't find it, I can just send you the invite

[lyric stirrup]

do it

[tiny locust]

Ngl I don’t hate ig or ig players I just like watching people complain about him or how good he is

[rich vigil]

Lmao

[rare moat]

Man I hate bugs

His bat is so strong

[tiny locust]

did he fighjt you yet

[vivid nebula]

They did my boy ig kinda crazy ☹️

[wispy island]

iron giant still the best character in the game

he needs 100 more nerfs for him to be just top tier and not top 1

[lone vault]

Sounds like you just got cheesed

Welcome to multiversus

[rich vigil]

No lol. I told him all the time I'm free and he just reacted with a thumbs up emoji

[rare moat]

How so you get out of black Adam's loop

I keep dodging but he catches me regardless lmao

[wispy island]

cheesed aka he clicked the auto kill button while in disadvantage

the freest chatacer ive ever seen

[rare moat]

New mu I hate: stripe

[rich vigil]

How come? If I'm such a noob why don't you come prove it? I'll even play a character other than Iron Giant if you want

[rich vigil]

Can I ask what the "auto kill button" is?

[rich vigil]

I feel like Stripe isn't that hard if you can avoid the skateboard. But maybe I just haven't fought a good stripe yet, idk

[rich vigil]

You said "you were obviously never good" and "you're playing against bums" so it was pretty well implied

If you're bad at the game and don't wanna embarrass yourself just say so

[warm canyon]

play shaggy and spam him to death

[jaunty mauve]

Brooo iron giant is like tied for Velma for worst 1v1 character. What do y’all think

[rich vigil]

Lmfao

[jaunty mauve]

My mains in the beta were Iron Giant and Velma. I honestly might just quit the game

[rich vigil]

Bro what

Iron Giant is good

[willow patio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/s/oJOx8lK9oR

[rich vigil]

Iron Giant still has zero to deaths

[willow patio]

💀💀💀

[willow patio]

Yup

He still has plenty of 40-50 kill combos

[rich vigil]

Yeah, he's still good

The up b is kinda inconsistent tho

Sometimes it just kills like that and sometimes it doesn't send them anywhere

[rich vigil]

Also Jason is definitely worse than Velma

[willow patio]

He gonna have his knockback reduced

Ig knockback is insane

It's not that his moves deal a ton of dmg it's that they move you Hella far

[rich vigil]

Yeah definitely

Definitely deserved as well if I'm being honest lol

Grounded up b killing at 50 is crazy

[jaunty mauve]

Jason is not worse than Velma. I can win matches with Jason

[rich vigil]

That's probably just a skill issue tbh

Jason is a much easier character

Either way, doesn't change the fact that iron giant is still top 10 at least

[jaunty mauve]

If you think Velma is better than Jason is 1v1 I already know I would smash you bro

[rich vigil]

You wanna 1v1?

[jaunty mauve]

And if iron giant has some new unintended 0-death that’s puts him up in high tier that’s whatever but once they fix all that bad we are gonna be left with the worst 1v1 character in the game

I will 1v1 I’m down

[rich vigil]

Ight bet

[jaunty mauve]

I will be playing Jason I assume you are gonna play Velma

[rich vigil]

I don't got Velma unlocked

I don't play her

I just think she's better because she doesn't get comboed like Jason does

[jaunty mauve]

Bro you cannot be serious with this.

[rich vigil]

And she's not nearly as slow

I'm pretty serious

[jaunty mauve]

It won’t won’t even let me send my response to that

[rich vigil]

You said a naughty word

Ah whatever, let's just agree to disagree then

[jaunty mauve]

I don’t even know what to say. You can keep spreading Velma info that makes me want to pull my hair out. You are gonna have a bad day in 1v1 if you ever unlock her. It’s straight up trash

[rich vigil]

Lol ok

[tiny locust]

Told you he wouldn’t fight anyone lmaooo

He prolly loses to rift Shaggy’s

how old are you 12?

Just assuming you’d be acting your age is all

[jaunty mauve]

Hey most of the people in here really are 12. People in here telling me Velma is better than Jason in 1v1… when they don’t even have Velma unlocked…

[vivid nebula]

velma is yeeks

[sinful dust]

Velma is easily the worst 1v1 character and it’s not close

Like the buffs kinda helped, but she’s still just that much worse than everyone else

[compact bobcat]

Bro wtf is that shockwave special?? and how does it activate during an infinite??????

[warm canyon]

i had a guy giving me matchup advice for harley quinn and he only had 3 games played against her

[weary arch]

IG still has a bit of sauce but hes still a struggle

[rare moat]

Nah that chainsaw is ridiculous

Hard to whiff punish

[full tide]

IG has some rough MUs, however I still consider him top 5 in the game atm

[tough breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc4oEDK1qU8

WE ARE BACK BABY

[knotty flame]

Yeah it’s crazy how people just assume that a character is complete ass when they get a couple nerfs and becomes insane when they get a single buff. And don’t even play the characters

[rare moat]

I got batman on MOJO Jojo

That was an unfun experience

Generally

[tiny locust]

its funny that the nerfs didnt even make him bad the people who complain about the nerfs just suck

[frigid reef]

why is it that while in rage mode I can make grounded down-attack > dash > grounded down-attack a true combo and other times i can't, is it based on weight of the opponent?

[willow patio]

#combos message

look someone else knows the ig 0-D lol

[frigid reef]

ayyy

[rich vigil]

Could be based on DI

[frigid reef]

i see. would grounded down-attack > grounded up-attack > dash > up-special (rage mode) work?

[minor tinsel]

There's ANOTHER 0td for ig

Jesus H Christ didn't they remove him because of his 0td

[grizzled torrent]

yea

[minor tinsel]

...just entirely perm remove IG and give people who owned him 1k gleamium and 3k Fc

[vivid nebula]

hell naw

[minor tinsel]

Fym hell naw? He got removed due to an inf and days later another is discovered? This keeps happening so why don't they just give us a compensation and remove him

[keen belfry]

How much xp you guys getting

Cuz my IG wins giving me less than 200

But anyone else I’m getting 400-600

[vivid nebula]

There's literally no need to remove him they already nerfed him to the ground. I would love to see the "inf" youre yapping about

[minor tinsel]

I'm just gonna quit while I'm ahead man

[vivid nebula]

👍

[rich vigil]

Easy for you to say when it's not your character

[rich vigil]

He definitely wasn't "nerfed to the ground". He's still very good but there's no reason to remove him from the game. I say this as an iron giant player

He also didn't say infinite he said zero to death

And he does still have zero to deaths

[vivid nebula]

He quite literally did, he gets tossed around by like every character in the game. And the average IG user (like me) doesnt take the time to learn those

We just enjoy what we have left of em

[rich vigil]

You don't have to use the zero to deaths to do well tho

I haven't been using them and I still consistently have a 75% win rate

[vivid nebula]

alright what ur user lemme see ur win rate

[vivid nebula]

Obviously but he most definitely isnt as good as he was b4

[rich vigil]

Robot Y0shi

[vivid nebula]

infs aside

[rich vigil]

He's still top 5 imo

[vivid nebula]

in ur opinion for sure 🤘

[vivid nebula]

ur winrate is far from 75% but its decent

52.6 to be exact

[rich vigil]

Well it was 75% last night 🤷

A lot of those losses were disconnects tho

Whatever tho, agree to disagree I guess

[keen belfry]

What’s your perk build for him

[vivid nebula]

yea whatever

[sinful dust]

You do realize that IG isn’t the only character with ToD combos and infinites right?

They didn’t even acknowledge Steven’s triple dair infinite

And they haven’t removed Wonder Woman’s jab dair nair loops either

Nor Taz jab neutral attack loop

And Bugs nair loops

Like IG having a ToD from his slow ass grab, walking to ledge, and up b off the side is way more situational than literally all of the characters I mentioned

And if IG doesn’t have bolts, pretty much every character has some sort of loop or infinite on IG

There’s no reason to remove him from the game

[vivid nebula]

black adam can also inf combo especially against ig

[sinful dust]

I thought they removed that. Or does he have a different infinite?

[vivid nebula]

I was playing against my homie earlier he kept doing his air up and i couldnt dash out of it at all

shi wicked

[sinful dust]

Oh, that’s not an infinite against anyone except maybe IG

But it has a lot of priority, so you can’t really challenge it from above

If he reads 2 air dodges, you’re basically screwed as any character because he has so much drift and can easily chase you

[rich vigil]

I use afterburners and then for the other 3 I have 3 presets I switch through. I have one with snowball effect, last stand and pugilist. One with the perk that blocks projectiles when you walk for half a second (I forgot the name), last stand, and pugilist. And one with that same projectile blocking perk, last stand, and the green armor breaking perk

[rich vigil]

Actually he also has a TOD off of nair ☝️🤓

I agree with your sentiment tho

[keen belfry]

Ok thanks

[sinful dust]

How does it work?

I’ve sometimes hit nair nair uair for kills, but definitely not at zero and it seems DI dependent

[rich vigil]

https://imgur.com/a/R74PRaP

[sinful dust]

Oh

Honestly it seems more like an issue with IG up b being way too easy to carry people into the blast zone

[rich vigil]

Yeah it's definitely getting nerfed

[sinful dust]

I mean, that’s fine. IG is still good even if his up b is nerfed

I was doing well with him and I wasn’t even using his up b at all

[weary arch]

alright yeah they need adjust IG's hurtbox

its too far ahead of his body

[vivid nebula]

Real i just got juggled by an arya with a airwalker perk

[rich vigil]

You'd probably be getting juggled by Arya anyways tbh

Iron Giant is a big boy

[sleek flax]

buff my boy 😦

[vivid nebula]

Real

[covert jay]

i need iron gaint combos

[covert jay]

ffr

[rich vigil]

Ground side attack --> instant air dash nair --> nair --> up special/up air

Grab --> side air

Ground side attack --> down attack --> dodge forward, repeat. This one only works if the opponent doesn't DI out

[covert jay]

THANK U

[rich vigil]

When at ledge I like to try to do side tilt to down tilt and when the down tilt spikes I go for a cannonball spike

[regal valley]

chance_805's video on iron giant is hilarious ngl

[rich vigil]

Is that the rage compilation one

[regal valley]

yeah

lmao

[rich vigil]

Nice. I haven't watched it yet but I heard a bunch of them had Carry in it

[regal valley]

im halfway through and its all carry

im not an iron giant player or anything but is carry like a top iron giant or smth

[covert jay]

yeah

[rich vigil]

Yes

He made top 8 at the Multiversus coinbox using solo Iron Giant

Got 5th losing to a Harley and to a Gizmo

[regal valley]

dayum

i had the unfortunate bracket path of iron giant infinite > tusco

tusco got 13th at evo

[rich vigil]

Oh dang

[regal valley]

very unfortunate

if it wasnt for the iron giant infinite i probably coulve made it out of pools into top 64

[foggy basin]

god, upair is just dead now

I just lost a match because I up-aired someone at 160%... and their jab beat my upair. Apparently our hurtbox appears before our hitbox on this move now.

[graceful girder]

iron giant is still busted

[celest herald]

Two questions:

• is that shield looking icon for the cooldown for the knockback on his neutral special?
• what signature perk is everyone running? I always ran afterburner in beta but not sure what the play is now

[rich vigil]

Shield icon is for the knock back but not for the bolts

You tap neutral special once to do the knock back and a second time to activate bolts

Afaik anyways

And for your second question, I've been using afterburners still but I've seen a decent uptick in people using wrong side of the bed

[sinful dust]

If you double tap dodge while in hitstun, you can also activate the burst

I’m actually not a big fan of that feature tbh

[rich vigil]

Me neither

I always do it on accident

[sinful dust]

I’d much rather just be able to dodge a non-true combo and get away than waste burst and have to wait another 30 seconds

[sinful dust]

Same

[ember talon]

It's not entirely clear to me what neutral B does outside of generating gray health whenever I have eaten items

[sinful dust]

It gives you gray health proportional to the amount of bolts you have and it activates burst when you have it (30 second cooldown)

[rich vigil]

You get those little orbs around you

They do thorns

[celest herald]

Ty for the responses! One more follow up then- do the thorns activate with the knockback or the gray health then? This move does like three different things

[sinful dust]

Oh is that what they do?

[rich vigil]

Ye

[sinful dust]

I never bothered to read the description

[rich vigil]

In the beta it was an actual bolt and not just an orb

I miss the bolts

[sinful dust]

Stacking 5 bolts was insanely OP tho

[rich vigil]

I just liked how the looked

[sinful dust]

Oh yeah I can agree with that

[rich vigil]

With the gray health

[sinful dust]

But like requiring 5 separate hits to deal any sort of damage or knockback to IG in the beta was kind of insane

[rich vigil]

Yeah

[ember talon]

I am interested in learning to play IG so I appreciate it

Mainly because I loved the movie so much as a kid

I have no idea how I came up on the movie lol

[celest herald]

I agree kind of. Whenever I was playing against a Harley in the Beta I don’t think I would have won a game without them though

[warped nebula]

iron giant kinda bad in2v2's

i think he's the best in 1v1's tho if not top 5

[rich vigil]

He's def top 5 in 1v1s

[keen belfry]

I’m tryna get good with instant air dodges on IG but having trouble with consistency anyone got tips

[rich vigil]

It's just a timing thing

Also don't jump when do it

[unique forge]

whaaaaaaaaat 😭

[unique forge]

dude they brought him back nerfed a ton and hes still broken

[warped nebula]

i mean

yeah

[unique forge]

i think hes like low A-high B tier in 2v2s

[warped nebula]

i think he's not that good in 2v2's

like i think this infinet carried him for 2v2's, but without it i def think he's mid

1v1's tho hes goated

[vivid nebula]

broken is super exaggerated

[unique forge]

no not at all

hes unhealthy for the game, seriously

[rich vigil]

That's what I'm saying. That's why I can't believe there's so many people in this thread that are acting like he's bad now

[unique forge]

they dont have their 6 infinite combos 😭

[rich vigil]

Real

[unique forge]

if im being honest he should just be removed or severely changed

[rich vigil]

Iron Giant still has easy TODs and kill confirms if you're consistently losing with him it's a skill issue

[warped nebula]

i just don't think he's good in 2v2's

[rich vigil]

Idk if I could handle my boy being gone again

[warped nebula]

1v1's hes one of the best

[rich vigil]

He's definitely getting nerfed tho

[rich vigil]

Yeah I agree

In 2's he gets ganged up on really easily

[unique forge]

hes not awful though

[rich vigil]

No ofc not, just worse

[unique forge]

ig is extremely good

but not just that

hes unhealthy for the game

was nerfed a lot, still didnt change much

[distant talon]

People complain to easily

If you specifically practice against giant, you can pretty easily improve your peformance against the character

[unique forge]

yeah that goes for every character and anything. if you practice you'll get better and improve

[distant talon]

He kills you off of any hit anywhere from stage, but you can basically do the same

[unique forge]

it is INSANELY difficult to knock IG off the stage

meanwhile, ig can do it in seconds

[distant talon]

But learning MU specific stuff on how to abuse his hurtbox makes it especially bad for him

[distant talon]

I disagree, you need to play around his threat bubble

[unique forge]

it makes it bad for him, sure.. BUT his problem is the insane hitboxes on his moves, how HIS hitbox can be janky, and the sheer amount of options you have as IG.

[vivid nebula]

Yea alrightt 😂

[distant talon]

IG can actually get a kill confirm off of any move anywhere from stage, but his slowness holds him back from doing that

[unique forge]

slow, sure. but HUUUGE hitboxes that are difficult to avoid.

you actually have to learn how to play around ig specifically. while other characters can sometimes be avoided in similar ways, ig mu is extremely problematic

[vivid nebula]

exaggerated once again

[distant talon]

But he is quite predictable if you play around his threat bubble, he really cant hit above or below him

[unique forge]

you're saying all this but not backing it up

[vivid nebula]

wdym? my words wont prove anything

Ive got a feeling you've got poo'd on by an IG and now ur here complaining

Js my guess 🤷‍♂️

[distant talon]

Every time someone complains on twitter, I see IG using grab, wich is probably one of his worst moves (besides dash attack that move is horrible)

[unique forge]

i have a feeling you're an IG main and cant stop crying hes not as good as he was before the nerfs and want og IG back

Js my guess 🤷‍♂️

[vivid nebula]

Haven't cried once but go off I guess lmfaoo

[distant talon]

Not counting the infinites he might be better after this patch

[unique forge]

"exaggerated" "exaggerated" bro please defend urself at least 😭

[rich vigil]

I lose a little bit of my soul every time I misinput dash attack

[vivid nebula]

Bro what?? im calling out ur exaggeration abt IG

[distant talon]

For IG specifically I wish that I can turn off that move entirely

[unique forge]

there aint no exaggerations

[vivid nebula]

"hes insanely difficult to know off stage"

lmfaoo

I guess

knock*

im dumb

[distant talon]

IMO he is in theory, but he is so slow so he cant get back to the center that easily so he ends up off stage quite often

[vivid nebula]

i mean he is a TANK he should be challenging to knock off stage

but it isnt as difficult as people make it seem

[distant talon]

Its kinda hard to get him off, but once hes off hes kinda stuck there

[vivid nebula]

Fax

[distant talon]

Bolts not giving armor anymore makes him struggle quite a bit

Even though burst is very nice

[rare moat]

What typa top5 yall got

That ig apart of

🤔

[covert jay]

anyone got the best perks for ig

[rare moat]

Ong

[fallow walrus]

Love the character and love the move set 10/10

[covert jay]

what are the best perks for iron gainmt

[lone vault]

same perks that every character runs. damage, damage, 100, damage

[frigid reef]

Last Stand is perfect in every way

Protective Momentum / School Me Once is also good. but Iron Giant has up-special to block projectiles. double-edged sword when playing around Bugs Bunnie's safe

Second Wing Beneath Your Wings is also ok, but im unsure if it refreshes ur gas meter. someone should try that out

[open sage]

bruh ig still killing peeps at 40 I love this char 😭

what does ig Neutral B do now?

[regal valley]

i believe that is the get out of combo free tool

someone correct me if im wrong

[covert jay]

That correct

[rich vigil]

It does not refresh gas

[rich vigil]

One tap gives you a burst knockback effect and a second tap will give you these little orbs that do thorns

[weary arch]

thats whats been bothering me, the bolts don't give armor, it makes him glow like he has armor but if he gets hit he takes knockback and damage like he would without armor

[covert jay]

buff ig

[rich vigil]

He's literally already being banned from tournaments because he's so good

I think the bans are bs, but the last thing he needs is a buff

I say this as a giant player myself

[distant talon]

Yeah idk why he glows yellow

[sick elm]

What sig perk do you guys run in 2s?

[distant talon]

Static or sometimes wrong side if the matchup is right

[weary arch]

trying dodge into neutral, its not bad but I need to master the timing on it

[keen belfry]

Iron giant needs nerf bad

He’s so good bro I just destroy people now

Ever since I learned how to IAD it’s been over for anyone I face

[distant talon]

While yes he is very strong, I think once you get enough MU experience his strenghts dont really matter anymore, so I wouldnt touch him for now so there is actual time for character development, and then they should look at his peformance and revaluate balancing. Hes just a polarizing character with high highs, and low lows. But if they keep nerfing everyone instantly without giving it some proper time, its gonna be problematic.

[open sage]

lol true every character I've enjoyed got nerfed

they even nerfed lebron

[sinful dust]

Tbf Lebron’s basketballs were kind of insane before, but they definitely should’ve given him buffs in other areas to compensate

[distant talon]

I really miss pre nerf lebron, his stage controll is kinda awful now. Sad that this is how they got rid of the infinite

[silver arch]

Blackhammer02261 gg's i was the Jason. 7-1

[indigo surge]

Man. I never thought one of the most soul-sucking interactions in this game would be simply playing Iron Giant versus a Bugs just doing nair over and over

[vivid nebula]

that and when jokers do up air repeatedly

[lost wagon]

best perks?

[shy shore]

if he nair's with the safe at the same time it kills u from 0 in like 3 seconds

[sinful dust]

Yeah, they claimed they fixed the safe interaction, but like that’s just not true. If Bugs does nair or jab and you get caught in it along with the safe, you take like a minimum of 70 damage if not more

[full tide]

Anyone know the best add on for IG?

[weary arch]

I'm fine with them nerfing some stuff he can do but for the love of god tighten his hurtbox lol

[rich vigil]

Wdym by add on

[frail urchin]

not having enough time to neutral air after jab killed all his fun combos

[rich vigil]

You can still do it at certain percents I think

Do jab nair upair for a kill

I haven't tried in the lab tho, it might DI dependent

[willow patio]

Bro was not "nerfed to the ground" in any shape or form

[stuck oar]

He probably means perks

[keen belfry]

I know you want last stand that perk is awesome for IG

[lone vault]

snowball effect, last stand, pugilist. either well rounded or wrong side of the bed for signature

[vivid nebula]

Scrolled that far up in chat to reply to my message and still be wrong is ludicrous 😂

[willow patio]

???

Ig still has 0-Ds, still has infinite comboes apparently, still has huge survivability, and can kill very low thanks to huge knockback on attacks

[glad horizon]

idk about 1s but ig is crazy in 2s

[vivid nebula]

"huge knockback" I love how exaggerated people like you describe iron giant 😂

[willow patio]

Because it is huge?

He has the largest knockback in attacks for any character

That's how he can kill so esrly

Early

[vivid nebula]

"0-D" that can be done only on afk players 😆

[vivid nebula]

thats a stretch 🫡

[willow patio]

No not really

It's only 3 moves too

[vivid nebula]

Bs

[willow patio]

Nope

Do you not watch vids on your own character?😂

[vivid nebula]

Honestly don't care enough

People are gonna complain abt em no matter how hard they nerf em (which they nerfed em pretty hard)

Losing to him most of the time is a skill issue. Not a lot of people to the time to learn to cheese with him

[willow patio]

Well no wonder you don't think he is broken if you don't even know what he can do

[vivid nebula]

he's not "broken" lmfaoo

[young relic]

Bro hasn't seen superman grounded side special or literally any wonder woman attack

[rich vigil]

IG is literally being banned from major tournaments. Just because you specifically aren't doing well with IG doesn't mean he isn't good

[vivid nebula]

Real

[vivid nebula]

I REALLY dont care about what hes getting banned from

Im goated with iron giant

And my winrate isnt 52.6 (unlike urs)

[vivid nebula]

Nice * got a lil ahead of myself

im nice asl with iron giant

[willow patio]

Oh nice

More ig nerfs

[indigo surge]

Wonderful.

[celest herald]

Bro we can’t use up special while holding an enemy anymore lol

[willow patio]

Can't do anything while holding now

[vivid nebula]

W game

If they see bro that much of a problem mine as well remove em instead of makin him unplayable 🤷‍♂️

[young relic]

Oh well grab into up special was a 2 head tactic anyway.

[rustic current]

Wow

[full tide]

They can nerf us all they want, we're still top tier buahahaha

[rich vigil]

My winrate would be higher if it weren't for the constant disconnect errors :/

I haven't been able to play 1v1s for the past 2 days because of the disconnect errors

[indigo wedge]

These kind of nerfs are good, gives them an opportunity to buff IG in meaningful ways instead of just using a lazy combo everytime

[sinful dust]

Dude I’d be fine and then get like 5 in a row and just stop playing

[rich vigil]

Real!!

[sinful dust]

Are the stats on tracker.gg even correct for player profiles?

[rich vigil]

No

[sinful dust]

I don’t think mine are updated from the beta

Idk if it’s all just pooled stats and some of them are accurate?

[rich vigil]

Only attacks dodged and lifetime damage are accurate

[sinful dust]

Oof

[naive depot]

– Iron Giant can no longer jump while holding an enemy
– Iron Giant can no longer use his up special attack while holding an enemy
– Iron Giant can no longer walk off ledges while holding an enemy

[sinful dust]

I know it doesn’t have any character data for the new characters

[naive depot]

WE'RE SO COOOOOKEEDD 😭

[rich vigil]

These nerfs honestly don't mean much

[sinful dust]

If you were only winning by fishing for ToD, then yeah

[rich vigil]

Just makes grab even less rewarding to go far than it was before

[sinful dust]

If you actually know how to play IG, these nerfs mean basically nothing

[naive depot]

I didn't even know grab > up special was a ToD. I was just using it as a basic combo since i couldn't think of much more.

[rich vigil]

It wasn't even true either lol

[sinful dust]

Grab into up special off the side

[sinful dust]

I heard it was

[rich vigil]

It's true if you don't DI at all

Nair nair upair/upb is more problematic imo

[sinful dust]

I mean, I hardly use his up special anyway

[young relic]

What do we think the content creators are gonna cry about next for IG?

[rich vigil]

His up special is goated

[sinful dust]

This

Is what they’re gonna cry about

[sinful dust]

I probably should use it more

[rich vigil]

If you fastfall and hold jump while using up b you'll stall in midair and you just spin in the same spot for a sec

[young relic]

Yep they are gonna come after our nairs lmao

[rich vigil]

Good edge gaurding option

[sinful dust]

Nah, they just need to do something about up special. I honestly don’t even think they needed to do anything with his grab

[rich vigil]

Yeah they're definitely coming after up special next

[sinful dust]

Either change the angle or let you DI it further

[rich vigil]

Tbh I think part of the problem is that they made all of the characters bigger but didn't make the space between the stage and blastzones bigger

[sinful dust]

Maybe even just make it like a single hit similar to like Zangief lariat

[rich vigil]

But then no spin 😦

[sinful dust]

That is a pretty but part of it yeah