Gizmo

[livid mirage]

what?

[halcyon summit]

Saying “fr?” over and over again

[halcyon summit]

Are you done?

[livid mirage]

oh fr?

😂

[halcyon summit]

I’m guessing that’s a no

[livid mirage]

ppl with just too much freetime

[halcyon summit]

I get entertainment watching how long you’ll keep trying to get the last word, I dunno about you 🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

will not be reading

oh look I "win"

corny asf 😭

[halcyon summit]

Is that your last argument?

Everything is “corny asf”?

[livid mirage]

chatting

[halcyon summit]

Might as well go back to spamming “fr?”

If your only goal is to get the last word

[livid mirage]

you got over 3000 msgs in this server 😭 ik yo life boring asf

Ceasing this convo

[halcyon summit]

Then stop responding 🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

cry

[halcyon summit]

🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

😂

[halcyon summit]

🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

got dude spamming

its over

lmfaoo

[halcyon summit]

Ain’t you the one who was spamming “fr?”

[livid mirage]

really?

[halcyon summit]

Really putting in effort to whatever you’re typing huh

[livid mirage]

🫵 😂

[halcyon summit]

🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

aii ma block you so you dont become emotionally attached or sumn

😭

[halcyon summit]

Cya gaslighter 👋

[livid mirage]

Back to his sub-human lifestyle

[halcyon summit]

Back to debating on whether Gizmo is or isn’t top 3 🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

punk blocked and still messaging 🙏 😭

[halcyon summit]

“Took care of the problem” but his ego needs that last message 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[livid mirage]

dude still yapping ⁉️

[halcyon summit]

I’m just here to keep egging you into wasting your time

You just keep doing it 🤷‍♂️

[livid mirage]

2 blocked messages 😂

[halcyon summit]

Ima just keep egging him on lol

[strong kraken]

I keep edging

[halcyon summit]

??

[dense jolt]

I thought it was only me bro

[livid mirage]

😭

[echo mirage]

I said it, no more gizmo holding arrow as much as he wants

[prisma spoke]

CAN WE STOP GETTING NERFS 😭

BROOO

[livid mirage]

The nerfs doesnt seem to crazy bro, I just wish they will fix the phantom projectile bug

and his jabs

[prisma spoke]

ye

I just find funny how we've been getting nerfs since May

every single patch

[livid mirage]

😭 Atleast we dont have it as bad as iron giant

[echo mirage]

You didn't got any nerf last patch while they nerfed LeBron, also gizmo was winning neutral by holding just a button it's not like ur character didn't deserve it lol

[prisma spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/what-star-lord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-mother-dead-mother-gif-20223787

ah God I forgot I cant post gifs

bruuu dude

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[gusty pelican]

What do we think of the nerfs boys? Not too bad honestly

[prisma spoke]

it's fine

dont mind that much ngl

I just love how each update or most of the updates Gizmo gets a nerf

[prisma spoke]

also why they nerfed LeBron tho

I dont think he was OP

[echo mirage]

We all don't know, they revert that nerf so this is funny lol
They ignored problematic characters like gizmo joker finn but nerf LeBron getting rid of multiple combos lmao

[prisma spoke]

also when is Stripe getting buffs bro like

come on

😂 👎

[prisma spoke]

wasnt WW OP too? I stopped playing cuz of vacation ngl

[echo mirage]

Yep, specially on 2's and they ignored her that patch

And I don't think they nerfed her enough this patch ngl

[prisma spoke]

oh she got nerfed thank God

(it aint doing nothing)

[onyx thistle]

Why does Gizmo take half a second to respond to button mapping whenever I’m doing an attack? Is anyone else having this problem?

[shell imp]

Thst got removed

Gizmo its like mid tier now

Why everybody keep complaining about this guy

[knotty yew]

Honestly, I didn’t really see the nerfs as a big deal until I realized just how far the knockback is on his up special.

[brave socket]

They should make umbrella worse yet

Don't know how they designed the character like this.

No way you can't punish a Gizmo that puts themself in burnout

Maybe umbrella shouldn't be able to turn like that.

[livid mirage]

Bro what are you yapping about the umbrella has a great amount of whiff

[brave socket]

Absolutely not

Needs more!

Its current whiff would be fine if Gizmo couldn't turn.

[livid mirage]

yea you're coping learn to play around gizmo 😂

[onyx thistle]

Also Gizmo doesn’t need any further nerfs

[livid mirage]

He's pretty fair rn

unlike black adam

[brave socket]

Black Adam is more fair than Gizmo

[livid mirage]

LMFAOOO

[brave socket]

Which format are you thinking Gizmo is cool in?

Have never struggled on a Black Adam compared to the Gizmo that paces the whole stage with arrows and trips with umbrella.

Is it just Gizmo's design to be like that?

[livid mirage]

Dude get better

[brave socket]

Do you have a good record against Gizmo or something to say that

I just think he should get some work that makes it so he isn't a character that burns himself out

[hexed fog]

Can the side b get nerfed please it's op to the point it seems like an oversight

re entering the car and having it lock onto your opponent and explode with a huge hitbox that kills it properly the dumbest neutral skip I've ever seen and the up air lasts longer than your dodge frames, if you dodge hit 1 you get hit by hit 2 it's not reasonable.

Very easily fixable and cool character but these 2 things are broken

[livid mirage]

"Complains about his only kill moves"

[hexed fog]

I don't want them removed completely just toned down a bit

[inland rampart]

gizmos whole kit has been slaughterd lil bro if you are complaining about it then skill issue

[mint raft]

^

[gusty pelican]

The lag on his up b is crazy. The character is literally unplayable now wth. His only combo tool got gutted. How the hell is he even playable now. His whole identity was a combo character, removing a 0td route could be understandable if it wasn't easily DI able. Wtf is wrong with this game's balancing

[livid mirage]

Fr bro

[inland rampart]

literally impossible to get any other combos off since his jab is the worst thing in the game too.

[livid mirage]

His jab is so garbage 😭

[prisma spoke]

WE DID NOT GET A NERF THIS PATCH

we are so back

[lyric elbow]

LETS GOOO

[shell imp]

They really need to revert the up special nerf it was unnecessary and it waesnt broken

[knotty yew]

Yeah, I hope they revert soon. I was hoping they would revert it this patch, but I guess not.

Maybe next time.

[livid mirage]

why can jerry outlive gizmos car

[knotty yew]

Use the umbrella to kill him instead.

[drowsy trout]

I love you gizmo mains you guys are cool

[livid mirage]

Gizmo in a horrendous state rn

[onyx thistle]

Gizmo is just unplayable. He takes like half a second to respond to a button.

[livid mirage]

Bro what is gizmo downtilt useful for? the keyboard doesnt even get a hitbox

[astral pond]

I love gizmo rn he is so cool

[inland rampart]

who paid you

[astral pond]

tourney hosts win I win....

[brisk seal]

Green arrow skin for gizmo

[mystic bison]

damn this gizmo fella isn’t very popular

[onyx thistle]

Cause they nerfed him into oblivion

[mystic bison]

were you just sat here waiting for a gizmo message it had been 5 days

[onyx thistle]

No not really

[echo mirage]

Mains gizmo when they can't camp with infinite arrow and can't do ladders with a simple jab anymore: 😭💀⚰️

[onyx thistle]

That’s not what I meant by that. Gizmo takes like half a second to respond to button presses. I’m overall fine with not having infinite arrows and constant ladder combos.

[inland rampart]

drpwinterfall when he cant be 5'3 and weigh over 350 pounds

[livid mirage]

gizmo jab sucks

[echo mirage]

Nah u are just bad

Gizmo jab is fine, for a character like him he deserves that lol

[livid mirage]

Gizmo jab is terrible is thats widely known

You're just a brainless sheep that is used to praising gizmo like hes a god

[echo mirage]

He still pretty good but you all cry for a little nerf on up b when gizmo still gets out of multihits while having the best up air for no reason

[livid mirage]

He doesnt have the best up air stop glazing gizmo 😭 its getting pathetic

[echo mirage]

He literally has a top 3 up airs, it's crazy good, good hitbox, it sucks you and kills lol

Funny that you don't said anything about gizmo getting out of multihits and TRUE combos because he just can 💀

But yeah if you used to say gizmo wasn't top 3 before nerfs then I don't imagine how bad you think gizmo is because of a small nerf lmao

[livid mirage]

Top 3 up airs 😭

I doesnt suck you either

Glazing tf out of gizmo

tnj up air is better morty up air is better bugs up air is better the list can go on

[echo mirage]

You are right in bugs but any other doesn't have a better up air and they nerfed the up air of Morty

Still gizmo has a better hitbox on up air that tnj

[livid mirage]

Its still amazing

[echo mirage]

Also multihit

[livid mirage]

naw

[echo mirage]

Whatever I'm pretty sure every gizmo player just downplay him hard like he doesn't have anything good lol

[livid mirage]

Now im downplaying 😭

Not debating an incompetent person 👋 😭

[echo mirage]

You always do bro, btw, still funny how you didn't won a single game against my characters until I pick a level 3 gizmo lol 😂

6-1 is the record lmao

[livid mirage]

You're a masters morty

Im gold

I dont play the game

ig thats your greatest accomplishment tho

[echo mirage]

Nah that's pretty easy to get, you just can't accomplish a single day of grind with ur boring character, my biggest accomplishment is shuting the mouth of a gizmo player

[livid mirage]

it wasnt 6-1 either

I dont have an entire day to play the game 😂

An hour 30 max

[echo mirage]

You won one game of steven and that's all

[livid mirage]

And i dont play ts like I already stated

[livid mirage]

it wasnt 6-1

[echo mirage]

What was the record then?

[livid mirage]

You did not have 6

[echo mirage]

We did bo3 Morty vs Gizmo and the bo3 of Finn against Joker

Then the single game of gizmo vs steven

[livid mirage]

I played your joker like once bru what r u saying

[echo mirage]

So what was the record?

[livid mirage]

ts was like a month and a half ago i dont recall

You had 4 at most

morty mains 😭

[echo mirage]

Getting 2-0'd on a good matchup is crazy tbh

[livid mirage]

playing the game 4 times as much as a person and winning is pretty crazy ngl

morty main 🫵 😂

[inland rampart]

your a grown man flexing being a top 20 jake in beta grow up

[echo mirage]

Who tf are u lol? You even go to my Twitter to check something? Lmao

You don't even know my age

[inland rampart]

you 100% get bullied at school tubby pipe down

[echo mirage]

I can say the same for u lil bro

[inland rampart]

you unironically wrote an essay in your discord bio tubby no one cares about you random

[echo mirage]

It's a copypaste from cruelty squad lol? I don't think something cares about a random with a pfp like you lmao, keep quiet

[kind glen]

guys, how do u jump into the vehicle immediately after sending it off?

[echo mirage]

They just nerfed the hitbox of up air but yeahhhh gizmo up air wasn't even that "crazy" right?

[stray elbow]

After jumping off, Up special but move your left stick in the direction of the car then you should be in

[stray elbow]

Yeah it’s not too bad of nerf compared to the last one

[livid mirage]

Just because it got nerfed doesnt mean it was a deserved nerf oldhead

[kind glen]

ty

[vernal turret]

Gizmo is just unplayable this patch, i'm done with this game

Never engage or lose it's how it is rn

So much fun..

[kind glen]

yeah, beta gameplay speed was the finest this game had ever been. they'll figure stuff out one day or they'll just promote the use of battlepass characters

[vernal turret]

At this state this is actually the unfunniest combat game that exists for real

I mean in 1v1

Sometimes in 2v2 you could still have some fun

1v1 is actually terrible

Almost torture to play

[timber ruin]

devs are deluded

They heard gizmo was OP in june and decided to nerf him every update til now.

[kind glen]

I swear to Jesus this game is starting to feel more & more about using jabs

[vernal turret]

Because of this dumb 0td that will be patched but aside of that he's very weak

Triple arrow true

What the hell is that

They don't even test their changes before sending their patches this is ridiculous

As long as they don't open PTS branch open to real players that actually know and play the game to test their patches the game will stay ass

Idk which players are testing their game right now but they're for sure very incompetent

And they do not help them to have a great game at all

[vernal turret]

He is still but as people are playing meta only, sessions are just -1, -2 match ups over and over, he's very bad against the actual meta

[shell imp]

D tier character

Man what they did to gizmo

[turbid zenith]

They fed him after midnight

[halcyon summit]

What even happened to him?

Dude used to be the best character in the game

[turbid zenith]

He was forgotten

[halcyon summit]

Oof

Did they nerf him to the ground or something?

[turbid zenith]

I don't know, I think he could be an excellent fighter, but I think it's mostly due to nobody really trying him out.

[turbid zenith]

But otherwise, it's unknown

[halcyon summit]

Oh

[shell imp]

They nerfed him till the community make him d tier

Bro he waesnt s tuer

Tier

Like 2 patch ago

And now his trash bc all of the hate for the character

[halcyon summit]

To be fair there’s nothing fun about fighting him

He had the best projectile in the game, ladder combos the same as Finn and Joker that were actually stronger and had more initial hit range, and a crazy strong wake up option that launches you upwards

He definitely was at least top a tier at some point

[turbid zenith]

I don't play Gizmo, but it would be nice to have a rival

[drowsy trout]

buff gizmo

[knotty yew]

With all the nerfs he’s been getting, I highly doubt he’ll be getting any actual buffs. Unfortunately, the best case scenario is he’s left alone in this current state, and never touched again.

[livid mirage]

Im hoping this is the case because he's still pretty decent

[knotty yew]

Yeah, he’s certainly not bottom tier, but if these constant nerfs keep happening he could very well be one.

[barren plank]

I hate Taz

Does anyone know how to counter him as Gizmo?

[knotty yew]

I have a hard time with him, but what I can say is just try to keep your distance. And use the arrow every time he does his tornado.

[livid mirage]

keep your arrow fully charged and whenever he uses his tornado move shoot him

keep your distance

I usally never lose to taz

[livid mirage]

damn i didnt even read this you said exactly what i said 😂

[knotty yew]

[barren plank]

Thanks, gang 🙏

[livid mirage]

I dont understand how arya can be in this broken ass state but gizmo gets nerfed every patch

[vernal turret]

What about Shaggy that is forever broken

[outer wind]

Rizzmo

[mild flume]

His Dair is so bad now

yikes

[knotty yew]

To be fair, half his moves are hella useless.

I wish Gizmo’s grounded down special was actually useful.

If it deployed faster, I’d remember it exists.

Instead it takes 3-5 business days to activate and I usually get hit by the projectile before it even has a chance of coming out.

[barren plank]

I wish they would rework the useless silencing bubbles into something else. They could start by turning the grounded down special into an all-encompassing shield to attacks, and that would make up for the startup frames

[livid mirage]

Play passive

Im so sick of jack's jab and air down special the moves are so insane with a very broken hitbox

[outer wind]

Nah

I use that move a lot

It’s pretty good if u approach with dodge dair

[vernal turret]

Down B is completely useless but Dair is pretty good

As long as you read well what will happen

[vernal turret]

They really need to take off his downB and his dtilt special that are both unusable and build something else around it, trying to make him fun to play again because he's really not anymore

It's not ok to have 2 useless moves in a kit

[outer wind]

dtilt is NOT bad

its a pretty good move for dodge reads and just combos

[vernal turret]

No i'm speaking about the chest

The piano is fine

[outer wind]

then what did u mean with "his dtilt special"

[vernal turret]

Dtilt is piano, and dtilt special is the chest right?

Or are we saying downBtilt, i'm lost 😂

[outer wind]

u said downB which is down special

and then u said dtilt special which i thought was just dtilt

the name of the chest move is down special

[vernal turret]

Yeah i'm confuse with the tilt moves sorry 😂

[vernal turret]

So i was meaning the down special and the down B are useless moves

[outer wind]

they're the same move

[vernal turret]

😂

F me

Down B is air down special to me

[outer wind]

oh

[vernal turret]

Maybe i'm wrong idk

[vernal turret]

But anyway those 2 moves are so bad and need to be rework

[livid mirage]

air down special is pretty reliable but grounded down special is too slow for it to even be useful

[vernal turret]

Reliable to do what?

Sending away your opponent?

And it can't kill

Can't kill can't follow it

[livid mirage]

air down special can combo extend

every move doesnt have to be a kill move

get in the lab

[vernal turret]

What combo?

[livid mirage]

You must be new to gizmo

Ill give you a couple weeks and youll learn some combos

[vernal turret]

You have some true combos with air down B?

Can't wait to see it

[livid mirage]

Get in the lab 🙏

[vernal turret]

Why don't you just show me

[livid mirage]

Im not on the game

[vernal turret]

Nobody is using air down special brother...

[livid mirage]

You can down special into down air into up air

YOURE not using air down special

its a good move

[vernal turret]

So good

[livid mirage]

get better and youll realize

[outer wind]

yo what?

never tried air down special for combos

that move always sent at a weird angle

[vernal turret]

The move is still weak no matter what you say

[vernal turret]

Yeah because people are not lab shaggy, they're using Di

Too bad

[livid mirage]

Learn the move ? Ive been able to combo off of it so many times

it just sounds like yall are too lazy to learn combos

a literal 5 minutes is all it takes to learn

[livid mirage]

stop complaining and learn combos, you simply choose not to

[outer wind]

Brother

I’m ranked #1

I think I know combos

Seems like u use air down special at disadvantage and then try ur hardest to get that comboing into whatever

Or maybe we were caught in generational rage bait idk

[knotty yew]

[outer wind]

[knotty yew]

Are there any more Gizmo combos that aren’t just jab, into arrow, into an attack?

[outer wind]

Yeah

Jab1 jab2 into dodge jump dair

That sets up a groundbounce so u can do a different combo afterwards

[outer wind]

[old valve]

[knotty yew]

Looks like I’ll have to get used to dodge jumping off rip. I’ve been messing it up in training a lot.

Are there any other starters like that to know?

[outer wind]

possibly down tilt

[knotty yew]

Oh, really? The piano gives enough leeway to string other hits with?

It always appeared a bit sluggish, so I just used it to edge guard.

[old valve]

[knotty yew]

[old valve]

[livid mirage]

I dont care about your rank

There's no way you shouldnt be able to get a string out of air down special

[knotty yew]

You may not care about his rank, but the rank is a clear indicator that he knows what he’s talking about. Especially since he’s ranked #1. So, when he says down special doesn’t contribute much to combos, chances are he’s right. Because of the skill demonstrated.

[livid mirage]

Rank means that you play the game a TON i didnt even have to read this whole message to know that its incompetent

[knotty yew]

Yeah, with all that time you’d think he’d know the ins and outs of Gizmo.

Including just how unreliable that move is for combos.

[old valve]

Gizmo is cool

I retract my previous statement. Gizmo is “not” cool.

[outer wind]

I’ve been playing gizmo for a while lol

I do use air down special into stuff yeah, but not IN A COMBO

I can use it to POSSIBLY start a combo if I read the dodge correctly

But no cool true combo can come out of it, only some janky stuff

So I would just suggest arrow into 0td or into a 40 string

[vernal turret]

It matters apparently as you're the only person here calling people beginners or bad when you are the only one to think your air down special weird not even true combos are good

And disrespecting everybody for no reason

Perish has some crazy combos that other top Gizmo are not even doing and you're here trying to flex on him you're just ridiculous

[livid mirage]

I never said a true combo I said you can frequently make combos out of air down special

[livid mirage]

Obviously not.

[livid mirage]

You have done nothing but complain about gizmo while hes in a good state. I didnt call NOONE bad im telling people they better they get as gizmo theyll realize the move isnt even bad

[livid mirage]

Any experience player can read a dodge to make COMBOS out of, this is the point im making even with the "bad" down air special

[outer wind]

i never said the move was BAD

and in high ranked games they will have good dodges so its not the best move to start a combo with

and yeah in casual games i use air d-special into a read combo

but its just SO much beter starting a combo from an arrow

[outer wind]

at this point im guessing ur rage baiting hard

which yeah u got me

[livid mirage]

I guess im rage baiting for saying you can combo with down air special

Delusion is bliss

[outer wind]

i never said u cant

[livid mirage]

I never ever stated its a combo starter either

Putting words in my mouth to try to prove a point is wild

[outer wind]

so where do u use that move then

its only really good in disadvantage

when ur in the air

[livid mirage]

Uh yea?

[outer wind]

or as an edgeguard (in casual)

[livid mirage]

obviously

IM not approaching with dair special thats obviously stupid

[outer wind]

mhm

ik

[livid mirage]

BUt you can make combos out of it if used correctly

[outer wind]

ik but not against high ranked players

[livid mirage]

Why is that so hard to comprehend

[outer wind]

dude

i never said u CANT get combos

[livid mirage]

YOU cant

I have before

[outer wind]

i said its not optimal

[outer wind]

i literally have

idk if i said it or not

recap of what im tryna say:

[livid mirage]

My point is you can combo with down air special and its not as bad as people make it seem of a move

Especially if you read the dodge correctly

[outer wind]

air down-special is usually ONLY good in disadvantage
its possible to get combos with that move but u need a read so against good players its hard to perform so its not optimal
the move is not BAD
its just better to not use air down special in neutral since u have the wonderful "arrow" for that

i fully agree that the move is underrated

but ur making it seem like its a life saver

and i would like to say that i got ur point a while ago just that u apparently haven't noticed

[livid mirage]

Im not tho

I havent exaggerated anything throughout this whole debate. Ol boy was crying about it being bad and I said it isnt

simple

I guess this is rage bait tho 🤓

[outer wind]

brother

[outer wind]

here u said that any "experienced" player will be able to use it well

which i agree with

but when the move is only useful in ONE situation

[livid mirage]

I disagree

[outer wind]

its pretty easy to learn what to do with it

even if ur not experienced

and also

i got combos that NO OTHER top gizmo players got

so apperently im not experienced enough 😥

[livid mirage]

I guess not

[outer wind]

multiple 0td and i have beat top players consistently

[outer wind]

so how long have u played gizmo then

and how "experienced" are u

[outer wind]

actually this doesn't matter

[outer wind]

only this

[livid mirage]

experienced enough to not think that down air special is useful in only 1 situation

[vernal turret]

At the very start I was just saying that the 2 moves were the worst moves of the move set ans that I'd like them to change it because I'm finding Gizmo's gameplay not funny anymore. I've never said that He's weak or idk what you think I was saying

And you started to call me a new player

[outer wind]

tell me some situations its useful in (tbf i might have forgotten ONE more situation)

except for disadvantage in the air

or possibly edge guard

[outer wind]

same

maybe he's the new player

🤔

[livid mirage]

you honeslty just wanna be included. I never called you new

[outer wind]

u called me not experienced

thats close enough to "new" to me

[livid mirage]

When??

[outer wind]

.

not experienced enough

which to me is not experienced

[livid mirage]

Sarcasm, you called yourself inexperienced

Lmaoo

[outer wind]

as sarcasm

[livid mirage]

Reaching for nothing

[livid mirage]

down air special is bad

isnt*

[outer wind]

it seemed like u we're agreeing to my sarcasm

as in it was not sarcastic

[vernal turret]

But as a fact, this is his lamest move

Name one that is not

[livid mirage]

as an opinion

[outer wind]

down special (non arial)

[livid mirage]

"seemed"

[outer wind]

or well the input is the lamest one ig

[vernal turret]

That was the 2 moves I was saying

[livid mirage]

grounded down special is understandable

[vernal turret]

So what was wrong

[outer wind]

so are u calling me experienced or not experienced now

i cant even tell

[livid mirage]

Im not calling you anything ?

[outer wind]

this "debate" is actually giving me brain damage

[livid mirage]

As expected

from you ofc

[knotty yew]

Reading it certainly is maddening.

[outer wind]

yeah agree

[outer wind]

ur confusing

ur saying stuff that makes the average person think that ur saying something else

[livid mirage]

Thats just you 🫵

[outer wind]

and then u say that u meant it differently

[livid mirage]

I made my point clear as day

[outer wind]

maybe

but from my perspective it just seems like u tried saying i wasn't experienced enough

which if anything i think im the most experienced

[livid mirage]

comprehension skills

bruh

[livid mirage]

thats cool ig

[outer wind]

anyways this convo is still leaving me with minimal brain damage

so imma go

[livid mirage]

👍

[vernal turret]

Love you guys

🫶

[outer wind]

imma use this channel like it should now ig

anyone got gizmo clips?

[outer wind]

🫶

[knotty yew]

[vernal turret]

We can't post clips here i believe

[outer wind]

oh

[knotty yew]

Yeah, no perms.

[outer wind]

well then idk

[vernal turret]

Yeah 😂

[outer wind]

gizmo is cool👍

[knotty yew]

I guess I can agree

[outer wind]

u guess?!?!?!?

its an objective statement

duhh

[knotty yew]

You know. After careful consideration. I agree now.

[outer wind]

correct answer

[old valve]

Gizmo is not cool

Just kidding guys Gizmo is cool!

[knotty yew]

[old valve]

[turbid zenith]

Remember kids, make sure to eat after midnight!

[halcyon summit]

Bro wants chaos lmao

[outer wind]

Yes

[drowsy trout]

someone teach me how to use gizmo I'm trying to learn him

[outer wind]

That’s where I come in

[drowsy trout]

teach me ur ways

[knotty yew]

I also wish to learn the ways.

[drowsy trout]

me first!

[knotty yew]

Fair enough, I can wait for my turn!

[outer wind]

i am the Rizzmo

[knotty yew]

Jizzmo

[outer wind]

[knotty yew]

[grave glade]

And I thought gizbro was a decent nickname 😂

[outer wind]

crazy how im the only gizmo in grandmaster

[calm hawk]

rip

this chat is so inactive

also gizmos car is so weak, and considering you need to deploy the car, ignite it, then propel it i argue that it should do more than ~24 damage. this becomes even more clear when you compare it against black adams clap move (nair) and his neutral, which both do the same amount of damage but just take one click to do

[outer wind]

gizmo's car aint all that bad

it kills early and its sometimes pretty difficult to avoid it

[calm hawk]

it does kill early if u get a direct hit but i'm just comparing it to black adams moves which do similar damage w 3x less work

[vernal turret]

It's good but good players who knows the match up almost never get hit

You just need to run away from it and ggs

Since the explosion time nerf it's way easier to get away from it

[knotty yew]

I thought there’d be more by now.

I remember a good amount of Gizmo grandmasters last season.

[iron vessel]

how to play tnj matchup?

[outer wind]

umbrella

to counter everything

[iron vessel]

Jerry hits through umbrella no?

[outer wind]

yeah, but when jerry's on the ground u can one shot it with umbrella

and umbrella blocks basically all projectiles so when he ain't got no jerry, he's dead

[north echo]

I switched to gizmo 🥲

[vernal turret]

Umbrella is also killing Jerry

[north echo]

What perks do you guys use?

[iron vessel]

Signature u can really use whatever but i use flammable, speed assist, and pugilist

[north echo]

Thanks And bnb combos?

[outer wind]

So u turned to the light side

[north echo]

It took me a serious losing streak to switch

Im done stressing my self out getting diamond 3 on that character

[outer wind]

Well then

[north echo]

Lossing to people worse than me just because of the match up

[outer wind]

Mmm

[north echo]

But I need to learn some of them gizmo combos 👀

[outer wind]

And that’s where I come in

[north echo]

[outer wind]

[north echo]

Btw what’s the worst match up?

And best

[outer wind]

Arya or shaggy

By far

[outer wind]

Iron giant

[north echo]

Lucky I don’t go against many arya, but shaggy

[outer wind]

Yeah

[vernal turret]

I'll had Steven to your list Perish

[outer wind]

Yeah

[vernal turret]

For worst mu

[outer wind]

I got a mu chart

Can’t send it here tho bc of permissions

Imma send it in #off-topic ig

[north echo]

😭I just mained a character who had Steven as a really bad mu

[outer wind]

Steven is just that good ig

[north echo]

Yea 😢

Can someone invite me to the Gizmo discord

[outer wind]

Sure

[vernal turret]

Same here please

[knotty yew]

Damn, there’s a gizmo discord?

[north echo]

Let me inv you guys

It’s pretty inactive

[north echo]

Ok

[knotty yew]

Sweet.

[livid mirage]

Nothing to be proud of but congrats 👏

[outer wind]

Got kicked out of grandmaster lmao

After the rp change

[north echo]

Dair into airwalker I got from perishmint #clips message

Did 55 damage in game

[iron vessel]

Is this true

[north echo]

If you don’t do dair that close to the ground then yes

[north echo]

This is how it looks like if the opponent Di away #clips message

[wise wharf]

This is where my people are

[outer wind]

This is our home indeed

[pale badge]

I have a collaborative Google Doc that we Marvins have been using to flugelhorn. Documents the controls and notes, and at the end there's a big list of songs with instructions.

I assume the piano emote functions similar to the flugelhorn, so Gizmo players are welcome to edit too.

PC users, I'm working on a script that generates a macro to play a song, just input the note sequence and adjust the timing after. It's a work in progress but I'm getting close. If this works, we can essentially generate a macro just by reading sheet music. Allows music to be played that would be otherwise too advanced for human input.

If any of you are interested in sharing your creations, DM and I can send a link

[outer wind]

Oooo

[north echo]

Yea I’m not playing gizmo

Didn’t play for long anyways but it was fun

[livid mirage]

car explosion damage did not need to be changed. That seals the deal for me and multiversus 👏

[north echo]

22 was kinda alot

The dodge change after jab2x was the worst of them all

[livid mirage]

That was perfect gizmo was in a perfect state before this. This isnt an insane nerf but damn can they do something to help em out?

[carmine oar]

Feels cruddy to play with all the movement/ending changes. Probably placebo, but his active hitboxes seem worse too. So many times the model is making contact, but there's no hit.

*end lag

[barren plank]

Personally with the way Gizmo is, I still feel pretty good playing him. At least when people complain about losing to Gizmo, it can't be blamed on him being some broken character 🤷‍♂️

I'm no great player to be clear, I can never get past gold tier in ranked when I try. I just really enjoy him because I find him fun to play

[outer wind]

No yeah the movement changes did affect gizmo a bit imo

But he’s still not really changed that much

Just feels like a minor nerf

[late wagon]

nerfing car damage but not buffing any singular thing else is ridiculous

[clear fulcrum]

hi

anybody know good perks

[prime vine]

Bro if they are gonna keep nerfing the kit and tools atleast let him box better everyone is fast asf and can chain combos and everything we have is getting nerfed to the ground it’s feels like you have to read everything when everyone else can just mash

[clear fulcrum]

i've got all but the standard perk section down, i don't know what to do for standard perk. i don't feel like pugilist or static electricity will be able to benefit enough. any ideas?

[prime vine]

Flame last stand and pugilist

[pulsar sage]

last stand is temporarily removed

[prime vine]

I’ve been using it

[pulsar sage]

its only available to people who previously had it equipped before they removed it

[outer wind]

[old valve]

[outer wind]

Rizzmo

[pulsar dagger]

Gizmo

too broken

[north echo]

He ain’t even top 10 anymore

[pulsar dagger]

aw man

[outer wind]

brother what

oh wait sarcasm

[pulsar dagger]

ye

[late wagon]

killed this game and gizmo

[onyx thistle]

Honestly, the grounded down special is just useless with Gizmo in this game

[outer wind]

Yeah

[waxen tide]

Gizmo can throw these hands. Please fix

[outer wind]

People (bhands) be saying that gizmo is bottom 3

That’s crazy

But he ain’t

[late wagon]

he is

they violated gizmo

[outer wind]

Nah

He’s a mid tier

[vernal turret]

Not bottom 3 for sure but still very low rn, I'd say he maybe has 5/6 characters behind him.

I'd put Nubia, Beatlejuice, Vera, Jake, Marvin, maybe TJ behind him

All the rest of the cast is slightly better to me, has easier reward, and has to do way less work to kill

The fact that he's the lightest char of the cast is not helping him also to be higher

[livid mirage]

wow

[livid mirage]

Yea gizmo is pretty cooked rn

[iron vessel]

gizmos car actually sucks

just failed to kill a ppg and samurai jack at the edge of the map both at 100+

[onyx thistle]

It’s barely kills at high percent

[outer wind]

Yeah

But at least gizmo isn’t bottom 5

[outer wind]

people do be underestimating gizmo like crazy

[onyx thistle]

They need to heavily buff him

[onyx thistle]

I mean, if gizmo can’t even kill with the car at 100+%, then obviously that would need a buff

Along with gizmo not responding to button presses after a move

Immediately after

[north echo]

No

[outer wind]

he does need buffs

but he doesn't need to be heavily buffed

im a gizmo believer

[late wagon]

how useless do PFG wanna make gizmo car 😭

there was ONE buff in that whole patch and it was ground movement speed

[outer wind]

Gizmo did NOT deserve this

[onyx thistle]

So about the MOG-Y 1000 emote that Gizmo has, do I actually have to press buttons for him to respond to a piano key?

[trail escarp]

yup, just like the marvin one

[onyx thistle]

Sweet

Since I’m a PlayStation player, is it the D pad that I use or the shape (X, Circle, Triangle and Square) buttons?

[trail escarp]

i have no idea, i play on a keyboard (but i think it is, its just the normal buttons of ur attacks)

[onyx thistle]

Sweet

[upbeat wadi]

It's attack or special + a direction

Every combination of those makes a different note afaik

[outer wind]

Anyone eu down to spar some time?

[vernal turret]

Imagine jab nerf on Gizmo

What is going on 😂

[outer wind]

@onyx thistle ur fighting one of my homies rn

gl!

[onyx thistle]

GG

[outer wind]

Let’s overthrow pfg and make gizmo great again

Gizmos assemble!

[onyx thistle]

I’m still getting him to masters this season

[outer wind]

(Ik it’s corny af but I’m bored)

[outer wind]

Same

[onyx thistle]

Wait, what other characters got buffs this season?

[trail escarp]

Gizmo is not even bad rn its just that the rest of roster is 10x more op, they are faster, heavier and have better ground options than gizmo

[barren plank]

I hope the Gizmo Christmas skin shows up in a holiday event for free

[spare karma]

are you guys endangered or something i barely see gizmo players

[outer wind]

Yeah we’re endangered

[onyx thistle]

If only they didn’t nerf Gizmo into the ground

[outer wind]

he's still pretty good

but not as good as before

[onyx thistle]

I’m gonna be blunt, Gizmo at the moment is just miserable to play as

In fact, ALL of MVS is just miserable to play. I’ve been having these thoughts on the game for a really long while now.

[carmine oar]

Feels like the hitbox changes exclusively nerfed Gizmo's already pretty short range. And I'm 50/50 on whether his car even has a hitbox anymore

Exploding car, that is.

So many enemies just walk/attack through it without so much as a percent gained.

And his up attack and umbrella now phase through enemies at the edges. "Better match the animation" my butt

[barren plank]

I'm no Gizmo pro, but Gizmo still feels pretty good when I use him

[outer wind]

He’s different than before but still feels good to use imo

[onyx thistle]

Anything in the patch notes related to Gizmo?

[hallow estuary]

wow they really made the car absotuelty worthless lol

[livid mirage]

redownloaded the game last week to play gizmo and man im lost for words. He's ass now just a weak ass character and car is cheeks now

doubt hes bottom 5 but def not as fun to play

[outer wind]

[onyx thistle]

So you’re telling me that Gizmo’s car can’t even kill at 100+% but Steven’s up air clap move can kill at 74%? Just, how!?

[outer wind]

No maybe, but gizmo can just kill at 0 so ig it’s fair

I agree that Steven up air is kinda broken tho

[hallow estuary]

Gizmo is ok tbh.

The issue is, you just have to work a lot harder to get KOs than other characters

[vernal turret]

This is literally the definition of a weak character

[outer wind]

true

yo pfg, can y'all maybe buff gizmo anytime soon?

like it seems like y'all kinda hate gizmo considering he's always getting unnecessary nerfs all the time, its not like anyone really cares about gizmo (except for us lmao)

[livid mirage]

how can gizmo kill at 0

nvm ur trolling 🤦

[outer wind]

im not

gizmo can kill at 0

no trolling

i might just be different tho

u never know

[livid mirage]

Upon checking ur acc and seeing youve been on mvs for 4 hours straight im not doubting you

[outer wind]

xd

also pinged u in #clips as proof that gizmo is kinda slightly busted

[drowsy trout]

@outer wind how u feeling after the nerfs

[outer wind]

Still pretty good, but some nerfs was just unnecessary

[drowsy trout]

I agree with you the nerfs were very undeserved someone prob cooked the devs with gizmo

[late wagon]

"you have to work a lot harder ... than other characters" 😭

[livid mirage]

He isnt lying

[outer wind]

No yeah sounds about right

[outer wind]

https://tenor.com/view/gremlins-gizmo-loves-you-gif-13903949

Can’t send gifs here

I see

[outer wind]

Buff jab

Please

[outer wind]

Sadges

[late wagon]

plz

[carmine oar]

How do we feel about today's changes?

[outer wind]

Good

BUT

up air

CMON WHYYY

I used that to stall in the air so I wouldn’t die

Also kill power is sad

[vernal turret]

Everything from this patch is sad

[north echo]

Is it me or does gizmo feel a lot smoother

[vernal turret]

I swear the god that there is not a single dev that even tried to play Gizmo, not even once

It can't be real

[north echo]

I really like these patches thank you devs

[vernal turret]

Yeah love
you devs

You guys the best

And Arya remains untouched

Lmao

[vernal turret]

🤡

[outer wind]

he feels smoother but his up air change was unnecessary

[winged osprey]

Haven’t played the game since they reopened and after the gizmo nerfs etc is he good still?

[carmine oar]

They need to give him something back. He feels so weak after the endless nerfs.

Short ranged outside his one useful projectile, tiny hitboxes that get beaten by everything, slow on his feet, poor knockback, even on attacks that require extensive setup.

I want to know the devs responsible for balancing this guy so I can give them a hard stare.

And he's the least used character in the game.

It really feels like a vendetta at this point

I don't even want to play anymore.

[vernal turret]

This plus the fact that the shield is also a huge nerf on Gizmo. But they didn't even take that in consideration. They keep nerfing, at this point Gizmo is pain and only pain to play.

He's the lightest character of the game, he's slower than some tanks, has less knockback than some tanks, like what is going on. It feels so random, they just putting stats like that not considering anything

[outer wind]

He’s probably low high tier without shields

He has some of the craziest 0td potential in the game just that it’s very situational

But his moves doesn’t have much “priority” so it gets beat out often

[brisk mirage]

what perks should i buy for gizmo

[outer wind]

5%, flame perk, armor break dash attack or collateral damage,pugilist

[brisk mirage]

ty

[outer wind]

Np

[livid mirage]

same for most characters

[outer wind]

Yeah but gizmos is actually crazy

One jab and it could be a 0td

[livid mirage]

so are superman's and shaggy's

[outer wind]

True combo

[livid mirage]

point still stands

balancing sucks

[outer wind]

Don’t think gizmo needs any buffs after what I did in tourney

[livid mirage]

That's you

others think differently

Others play differently also

gizmo is weak asf rn + theres shields if i recall

havent played ina bit

[outer wind]

Wouldn’t call him weak but alr

[outer wind]

Guess this is ur answer

[livid mirage]

YOU wouldnt others would

[outer wind]

Gizmo honestly shouldn’t get any buffs or nerfs (except for making gizmo jab true combo)

[vernal turret]

He definitely needs his recovery tools back. The fast fall on the up air is dumb and the fact that the fair is not stalling anymore was not needed. Some character could recover forever there is no reason he's not having it back. It wasn't a deserved nerf at all

[outer wind]

[outer wind]

CAN GIZMO JAB 1 COMBO INTO JAB 2 PLEASEE, I hate how people can dodge out of jab like RAHHHHH

[trail escarp]

gizmo's jab is just so inconsistent, like if you dont dodge then jab its just a 50/50 if your jab will connect with itself and if your combos will work

[outer wind]

Character is getting gutted y’all

I can smell it

[warm ether]

i can smell YOU

and u smell gud…

https://tenor.com/view/gizmo-dancing-gremlin-gif-13431128

[outer wind]

Agree

I do smell good indeed

https://tenor.com/view/my-edit-gremlin-kim-hale-church-girls-dancing-gif-3285695293034391283

[warm ether]

what the hell is that gif 💀💀

[outer wind]

It’s gizmo duh

[warm ether]

erm….😟

[outer wind]

[stuck compass]

do you have more i really enjoyed that one. i just really liked it i would like if you posted more of those that was enjoyable to me.

[outer wind]

https://tenor.com/view/multiversus-agent-smith-the-matrix-gizmo-gremlins-gif-10455651126170278681

https://tenor.com/view/gizmo-gif-15320223

https://tenor.com/view/gremlins-gizmo-loves-you-gif-13903949

[prime vine]

@outer wind when you gone drop a gizmo combo video or tips n tricks

[outer wind]

Was thinking of making one but I’m too lazy

[prime vine]

Go live n show me some true combos ain’t no gizmo content if someone does end up feeling like they wanna play multiversus they not touching gizmo

[outer wind]

Live as in twitch?

[prime vine]

I’ll tune in if you go live

[outer wind]

Can’t go live for a week so can’t go with that

[prime vine]

Smh any lab clips you got in your archive or clean in game combos you hit I try to do the jab into butt bounce combo from TVO but it’s hard asf for the double up special on controller

[outer wind]

Don’t have them laying around

Or well not rn

[prime vine]

Bet ima tune in next time you live ima need a good lab session showing me all ya good moves so I can dog everyone I play

N who’s is the hardest matchup for your gizmo rn

Matchups*

[outer wind]

Steven,shaggy and Rick

[prime vine]

Agreed throw Nubia and tnj in there for me

[outer wind]

Idk, nubia is a winning matchup for sure, tnj can you just spam umbrella and win

[prime vine]

Really? I really struggle against her I feel like she’s always just out of range for everything and can apply so much pressure

[onyx thistle]

Well, the games gonna end in 3 months…

[outer wind]

True

[onyx thistle]

Well, it was fun talking to y’all

And fun while it lasted…

[outer wind]

But at least gizmo didn’t end of being a bad character

[outer wind]

It was fun

[onyx thistle]

That’s one plus I guess

[livid mirage]

Was barely fun the devs basically stopped caring after the first 2 months

[outer wind]

Might actually drop gizmo

He feels downright awful rn

He feels so clunky and he now has absolutely no combo potential

[trail escarp]

wdym no combo potential? also hes even more busted now lol, uair, car and umbrella are killing early af

[outer wind]

Absolutely not lol, they removed every combo I used, and buffed useless things like dtilt and uptilt (car buff was nice but they also shadow nerfed it)

Up special nerfs hit hard

Up air is less floaty which imo is bad

Umbrella hitting more to the side is also a bad thing imo

Only really good thing that happened is now gizmos jab works

And I have a fully working jab loop which is inescapable

Down special doesn’t cancel anymore

Also dair just feels awful to use now

[trail escarp]

fair enough

i want beta gizmo back he was so fun

[onyx thistle]

I want the entire beta back

[trail escarp]

netcode of the beta was terrible, everything felt too floaty and infinite dodges were a thing. despite that, it was better than now

[velvet quest]

Yeah, like a option in the game

[outer wind]

beta was mid

full game is more mid

[velvet quest]

At least the beta has stable fps

[outer wind]

Why did they make gizmo easier😭

I liked it when his combos were more difficult so I was the only one who abused the broken things…

[vernal turret]

Don't worry it's over Perish

[north echo]

Gizmo broke

[outer wind]

Fr, they made his combos easier to perform😔

[sly vine]

What does this mean

[outer wind]

It means that I can hit I with jab and then hit u with jab again

Again and again

0-infinite damage

[sly vine]

Wtf

Is there a clip of that

[outer wind]

yeah, I can send in #clips

[sly vine]

Yea fs lemme see

[outer wind]

gizmo doesn't even need to work for his kills now 😔

up special into umbrella just works offstage

[sly vine]

I get pounded with gizmo a lot

I miss one jab or side special and im naked

[outer wind]

Jab has a low amount of whiff so u shouldn't really be punished from jab 1

[sly vine]

Yea im also just bad at reading with gizmo cuz hes slower than what im used to

Most of the time I get stuck in a combo when I miss the first jab

[slate shale]

no messages for 4 months. Gizmo is so sad

[outer wind]

Sad gizmo

[north echo]

Poor gizmo