Garnet

[tiny comet]

The fact that pfg is more focused on bug fixing marker than buff electric groove or dance is really concerning ngl

[drowsy arch]

has anyone ever done a guide for garnet's down tilt?

there are so many different ranges/ combo routes at different damage percents

[tiny comet]

I would but

Not worth

Hitstun be random

D.i be random

[drowsy arch]

I need to lab a bit for down tilt....

[tiny comet]

Most def

Nerf to bj jab 2 and sairs damns

Rip my idea

[drowsy arch]

options after down tilt are: jab1, jump sair 1, clap.... any others u guys use?

[lapis lynx]

[crisp bronze]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/izBZ6Mmn4ytcjPrv3/d1337cz3nwoR?invite=cr-MSxSeVUsMTczNTU5NTQ5LA

love

the clap

[tiny comet]

Sair sairs airupspecial, up special ball jab clap, dair sair jab 1 any ender you want but tech roll if ground bounce

[lapis lynx]

Clap is love

Clap is life

👏

[tiny comet]

The laugh i made is hilarious

[lapis lynx]

Bruh, two drops

[tiny comet]

But we need marker fixed

Foh

[lapis lynx]

True!

[crisp bronze]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/izC07e78y4VI5grT9/d13373vIKV0B?invite=cr-MSxDVGIsMTczNTU5NTQ5LA

at least i hit this

[tiny comet]

They’ll fix clap

But they nerf bash

[vast yoke]

you and that elbow bruh

[tiny comet]

Book it

[vast yoke]

get married

[crisp bronze]

same for you and nair

[tiny comet]

[vast yoke]

Actually I think my most used move is becoming UpTilt

[crisp bronze]

and about elbow

at least im hitting sick clips with it

[tiny comet]

Damn hog dodgin the fist

[crisp bronze]

bro dodging games better than i dodge responsibilities

[jolly flax]

I hate how thic garnet is 😞😞

[tiny comet]

Same

[tiny comet]

She can be thicker

Win win

[jolly flax]

Nooo if she’s thicker I need a smaller hit box 😞✊🏻

[crisp bronze]

i mean

at least she dies at like 140 average

[jolly flax]

Yeah ig but I cant win trades and every move is a black hole bc her hit box

[tiny comet]

Gotta use them projectiles

And shoulder bash

I believe in you

[rancid cedar]

Bro got cooked by the opps 😭

#clips message

RIP the 27th garnet main

This dude to the 26th garnet main

[lyric rover]

Garnet mains doesn't learn from her own show 😭

[rancid cedar]

😂😂😂

Garnet mains are not the most peaceful mains anymore

[crisp bronze]

joe mama

[lapis lynx]

I keep my dislike strictly towards towards the character, not the players

[rigid storm]

<@&882349260409032746>

[lyric rover]

Don't worry he already got banned

[rancid cedar]

They read the Reddit reports

[rigid storm]

oh ok ty

[void stratus]

How do I fight Jake? Genuinely struggle with him way more than any of the top tiers, literally 2/3 stocks against any competent Jake I die early by fair edgeguard spam or double neutral special. Also have no idea how to play against his bait and punish playstyle, can't play safe again him cuz his horse is too fast for me to throw anything out on

[autumn eagle]

It was a mess

[rancid cedar]

I just wanna play my main 😔

[autumn eagle]

I get it

[tiny comet]

Scroll up

Here

[tiny comet]

Damn so bj neutral punch kinda useless now

[crisp bronze]

bj is useless
is enough

[tiny comet]

Actually factual

[lapis lynx]

I feel like it's too early to tell how good Beetlejuice is

[loud light]

NO WAYY

I JUST SAW THE PATCH NOTES

WHY ARE THEY NERFING GARNET MORE 😭

[tiny comet]

He bad

[loud light]

He’s truly not that special

[tiny comet]

And its jacks fault

[loud light]

Solid like mid to low a imo

Off first impressions

Cause I’ve played a total of like 5-6 full sets since BJ came out

And only 2 against a genuinely decent Beetlejuice

[tiny comet]

They nerf jab 2

Its ggs

[lapis lynx]

He got buffs this patch right?

[tiny comet]

The alleged buffs were to compensate for jab 2 nerf

Because unique perk/neutral special loop

[tiny comet]

Ima make bj op

[wheat dirge]

GARNET GOT CAKE

SHE have a pirate outfit on because she riding the DECK 😏

[tiny comet]

SHE THICCC

[tiny comet]

Damn beetle juice dont even have a chat

😂

[wicked tusk]

@woeful goblet
do you have time for ranked 2s today?

[wicked tusk]

dam, when your oppt also play safe instead of play aggressive
this is really tough

[woeful goblet]

Im down for a few games rn!

[wicked tusk]

sry, i'm already have a partner for 2s right now
maybe next time

[woeful goblet]

all good!!

[drowsy arch]

anyone else think superman's ice breath is op?

i don't like that it knocks back slightly

it's so effed

[tiny comet]

He do be breathing

[loud light]

Pause

But yes

[icy umbra]

So I'm working on playing more patiently and not dodging in all the time like an idiot. I have succefully camped out an Arya and made her rage quit.

[lapis lynx]

Optimal

And yeah, dodging in all the time is super punishable

[icy umbra]

Very. It's a bad habit I have from multiple years of smash that I need to break.

[icy umbra]

Does anyone else struggle with stripe? It's a mix some of his moves seem way bigger than their animation, and not being able to hit him. He low profiles everything.

[void stratus]

Same, best I can do generally is Nair spam and hope for the best

[lapis lynx]

He's awkward to fight

[wicked tusk]

still stuck at diamond
the main problems are :

• struggled approach to oppt if the oppt play safe and have good movement tech (Finn is the worst case scenario)
• struggled on play safe when oppt like Supe, Jack, etc that have good range from their jabs
  i know it's kinda smell of skill issue, but it's really difficult to play aggressive because mostly Garnet's attacks are predictable, mostly i can hit them with dash attack

i want to run Garnet for 2s, but the matchmaking really takes longer than 1s
and also find friends that have good connection quality isn't really easy because most players who play this game are from EU and NA

[rancid cedar]

Bro sounds like he got masters 2 days ago

[wicked tusk]

You're right actually, i reached master around 2 days ago iirc, but with ww, not garnet

[rancid cedar]

I only know because I saw your tierlist and you said you reached masters 😭

[rancid cedar]

Good tips tho

[wicked tusk]

Sry, about my tierlist or my statement about garnet?

[rancid cedar]

Statement

I don’t know much about wonderwomans matchups so I can’t give an opinion on tierlist

But I like how you gave stripe 0 and not -2 so many people downplay him

[wicked tusk]

Oh thnx i guess
It was just kind of statement, when i was a bit frustrated from lose because of what i said
I'm just need more time get use to it with Garnet. Maining Garnet is pretty difficult than WW

[rigid storm]

Hello fellow garnet mains🙂‍↕️💪🏾

[wicked tusk]

I was try to put Stripe into "haven't match up" first
But i remember that i fought against him only like 3-4 times, but so far it's like 50:50, that's because i got MU against really good stripe mains before

[wicked tusk]

I only main 2 chars until now
So i can only do the tierlist about my mains match up than full char tierlist like usual

[rancid cedar]

I’ve been main switching quite abit but I need to stick to one before the ranked season ends

[exotic hemlock]

should i get the dance emote

[tiny comet]

Get all the garnet emotes

[lapis lynx]

Yes

They're all good

[tiny comet]

New bug

Cooldowns disappearing ui

[drowsy arch]

anyone else having a terrible time with RP gain since the patch?

[wicked tusk]

dunno yet
so far the biggest RP that i lost is -19 from diamond, against master iirc

[drowsy arch]

ya but i'm not gaining more than 12 mostly

which i think is effed

[wicked tusk]

are you diamond-master player?

[drowsy arch]

i'm diamond 5 ya

was diamond 4

[wicked tusk]

then i guess it's common thing, you're not the only one

[drowsy arch]

i just want masters for the skin lmfao

[tiny comet]

Ranked is F’d

[drowsy arch]

i beat a gold and i get 26 pts?

i beat masters and i get 12 or less

whut

[dense pine]

Question under my 1v1 thingy in fighters for garnet there's a number is that my overall rank for her

[tiny comet]

In ranked yes

For 1s and 2s overall respectfully

[dense pine]

So this number I am seeing here is my current placement for garnet in ranked or is it per ranking does this number reset if I rank up

[tiny comet]

Character specific on the character roster, and overall ranking is on the leaderboard in ranked event tab example would be garnet #16 1s and #36 in 2s

But thats garnet players only ranking

[dense pine]

So you're ranked 36th best in duos for garnet

[tiny comet]

Somewhere around that

[tiny comet]

37* someone passed me

[wicked tusk]

are you guys having problem with Garnet's clap especially against small chars including Morty?
like you clap them, but they don't really get hit and knockback from that clap, like half miss

[icy umbra]

YES

but not just small characters, ive had batman and superman fall out too

i swear its like every other game someone falls out of clap

[wicked tusk]

i didn't clip this moment
i just wish they gonna fix that and buff that clap, at least its hitbox and also 🤔
Garnet need more buffs imo

i won't complain about nerf chars right now
but at least i try to figure it out about Garnet's buff if it's possible

[icy umbra]

in my honest opinion, the only buffs garnet needs is dance being faster/having less endlag and making clap more consistent. the rest of garnets buffs will come in the form of other characters slowly getting their hitboxes cleaned up. like samurai jacks jab for example. dance being faster would make most of my MU problems go away lol

[wicked tusk]

i would love to see it about that dance, right now mostly i use dance only for bait my oppt and block projectiles
if my oppt less aggressive, i can dance at least 1 stack for speed, speed is one of most important thing imo
speed from perk + speed from dance, it's really good

[icy umbra]

i really should use dance more, i only use it for projectile block. is the speed increase from rythm stack 1 + speed force assist better than taking last stand?

[wicked tusk]

last stand is also good imo
i just get use to speed force than last stand, maybe i'll try last stand someday

[icy umbra]

does speed force only affect run speed?

[wicked tusk]

yep, only movement speed

oh yea, does dance affect double with speed force?

[icy umbra]

im not sure, its been a long time since ive used speed force.

[wicked tusk]

and also i think they need to buff garnet's first jab, especially its hitstun

[icy umbra]

that would be nice, randomly some characters can dodge out jab clap/ground neutral. i think ground up special 1 hitbox being just big enough to hit small characters with jab ball jab clap would be sick.

[tiny comet]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AliveCloudyHummingbird4Head-RiCKb6_bZ19JZGNV

[wicked tusk]

yep, like that

[tiny comet]

Happen to me 3 times back to back to back vs bj

+5 rp for the win

[tiny comet]

Probably just more nerfs to marker

💀

[exotic hemlock]

erm

just saw a dude double air up special at the top of the map and placed a star that kills

he did it for two stocks

i feel disgusting watching that

[tiny comet]

Technically not impossible but its one of the reason why they removed walls on throne room in ranked 1v1

Clap bug fix when

Down special qol update when?

Dance literally anything when?

[lapis lynx]

We may never know

[tiny comet]

Drops a new garnet emote instead..

[lapis lynx]

[lofty loom]

To be honest I think garnet is in a good enough place that (even if it’s frustrating that dance is useless) a good dance might make her to powerful

[tiny comet]

Stretchhhhh

[lapis lynx]

Less startup and endlag on dance would be nice

[tiny comet]

Nah lets just break it entirely

😏

1000 damage

[long dagger]

I bought garnet

What are her best perks?

[lapis lynx]

I usually run 5% since her signature perks aren't too good

Along with press the advantage, speed force assist, and pugilist

[long dagger]

I’m so sorry garnet mains I butchered your name against a stripe 😭

[lapis lynx]

They also just nerfed marker this patch

[long dagger]

Okay thank you

What’s her neutral game

And what are her best moves

[lapis lynx]

Her best moves are sair, nair, and clap (when it doesn't drop)

Neutral punch, up air, and dair are good too tho

[long dagger]

What’s clap?

[lapis lynx]

Cooldown up special

[long dagger]

Ohhh

Thank you

Should I be the one approaching?

Or should I let them approach

[lapis lynx]

Garnet has good tools for playing neutral, so I'd say watch what your opponent does first

Placing star (down special) on stage is great because the opponent has to be wary of it

[long dagger]

Ok!

[lapis lynx]

And it can pull you back to the stage, potentially saving you from an edge guard or even reversaling the opponent

[long dagger]

I get it

Any important combos I should know?

[lapis lynx]

Nair and sair 1 are some of her main combo starters

Elbow (cooldown side special) can lead into combos as well

[wicked tusk]

just lost 15 RP against shaggy master 1
i'm still diamond 5 with Garnet bruh

[lapis lynx]

Nair -> landing sair 1 -> jab -> clap is a good kill confirm

[icy umbra]

how do you fight superman? because superman has 1 braincell and he uses it to loop me into the corner for 3 stocks. the autoteck system doesnt work since he is so big i dont get far enough away.

[exotic hemlock]

i want something like tom and jerry’s tennis neutral

also i think a cool interaction would be once aryas dagger is stuck to you you can bubble it with dance

[exotic hemlock]

the way they haven’t made a good bundle with volleyball garnet is making me mad

[tiny comet]

Volleyball garnet ???

[exotic hemlock]

the beach skin she has

like the only bundle is one with velma

there’s is this flashback bundle with the dance that’s 860 but the flashback skin is not worth 800 gems in my opinion

[lapis lynx]

They should give garnet a taunt where she defuses

It could have ruby and sapphire holding hands

[tiny comet]

They made a beetle juice channel after i mentioned it

(Conspiracy)

[long dagger]

She was free tho

You just needed to grind the twitch drops

[icy umbra]

killing iron giant at 87 percent after the hit feels so good

[dense pine]

I've had more issues with them slipping out of the punch or dodging the karate kick

[exotic hemlock]

#clips message

he conceded

[dense pine]

Wtf is dtech ik what tech is but I've been dodged like 8 times one match by the person using dtech

[tiny comet]

He had enoughhh

[jolly flax]

I done

[lofty loom]

That one’s good tho

[exotic hemlock]

hate velma

daphne

is better

[wicked tusk]

i guess you had lost a lot against velma after she got buffed?

[exotic hemlock]

she’s just never been that girl

[jolly flax]

Why is Morty so op

[wicked tusk]

?

[fleet birch]

no one knows

[fleet birch]

velma is such a cool character tho

how about we get rid of shaggy

[exotic hemlock]

arya needs fixes

[fleet birch]

yea

[exotic hemlock]

she does too much damage every trade

[fleet birch]

yea like one whiff and she converts to a 70 dmg attack

[exotic hemlock]

also can’t seem to knock her back at all

[wicked tusk]

let Velma mains get shine for while will ya?
i'm sure some people will complain about same thing to Garnet if Garnet gets treatment like Velma

[exotic hemlock]

i actually haven’t fought a velma in the past week

she’s like really rude for no reason

she probably has a superiority complex

i think mindy kaling put the nail in the coffin

yeah but garnet is a kind person always looking out for her team and never putting anyone down

velma will call you stupid and then laugh at you

[wicked tusk]

woah, that's a bit much dude, i get that

[exotic hemlock]

she literally does that

i’ll take dance over any attack move please

a grab would be nice

[wicked tusk]

i get that truly
personally, i'll let velma get shine for while, because velma is low tier char before (not from beta) u know
of course velma is starting get into my biggest threat list for now, but it's not impossible that we can learn from match up against her
i'm sure of it

[fleet birch]

velma is a threat to u???

[wicked tusk]

for now kinda, only one player velma so far that i've encountered and i lost more often from that guy since velma get buff
but recently, i'm starting get use to it, i just have to be less aggressive and be more patience

[fleet birch]

ur talking about 1's?

[wicked tusk]

yep

[fleet birch]

I cant say i have the same experience with velmas

[wicked tusk]

understandable

[fleet birch]

the only time i lost to one is when i felt bad for them so i gave them the win

[earnest tendon]

Velma is a matchup check thats it

[wicked tusk]

i lost often against velma with garnet
but with ww, i'm sure i can win it more often, but still it'll be pretty sweaty

[fleet birch]

I cant lie

I dont even know how u lose to velma in general

But also i havent gone against any at all

So I dont have any experience with it

[wicked tusk]

i can't tell in general tbh because i main two chars
it's kinda 50/50, from garnet and ww's perspective
but i'm sure i can increase it if i can learn from that exp
but still, it can be more frustrate in progress

[fleet birch]

if ur struggling against velma then that might be a skill issue tbh

[wicked tusk]

of course, i'm not lying about that, that's why i want to try to learn instead of want pfg to nerf her

[fleet birch]

what do u struggle with

[wicked tusk]

from garnet's perspective, her flashlight is kinda unpunishable, as soon as i dodge from it and jab her, she still can dodge it
so far, Velma is kind of slicky or sly one, that's why i try to be less aggressive and be more patience like what i said before

[fleet birch]

Being patient kinda lets her get ranged attacks off

her dodge is like one of the best in the game so remembver that

[wicked tusk]

i get that, hopefully i can solve that problem with garnet

[wicked tusk]

i'm sure i'll get match up against same guy, always

[fleet birch]

I think u just gotta be more aggresive

[wicked tusk]

ughhh, i'm kinda ptsd when i being aggressive then i got punished because i miss my attacks
but i'll consider it later

[fleet birch]

approach different maybe?

[exotic hemlock]

gauntlet spam

i want pyrope garnet skin

[tiny comet]

Velma = sass

[exotic hemlock]

remove the s

[wicked tusk]

change "a" into "u"

[exotic hemlock]

hessonite garnet skin

[fleet birch]

oh my god jokers making me about ready to uninstall

wdym he throws three fast moving cars

cards

[exotic hemlock]

i still think his card cooldown should be increased

[lofty loom]

She is the best idk what you mean

Literally me

[exotic hemlock]

she’s mean

[lofty loom]

To people who deserve it tho

Like if someone says something stupid af you sometimes gotta be a little mean

[fleet birch]

just delete him tbh

[dense pine]

Question for the badges do they only go up to 5 stars or do the stars circle the badge or change in color or anything extra?

[fleet birch]

Only 5 stars and I don’t think they change

[dense pine]

Ah alright

[exotic hemlock]

seen people running that’s flammable on garnet

[wicked tusk]

not really effective if we can't hit them after get hit by garnet's projectiles

[exotic hemlock]

is the 5% damage noticeable to stop using marker?

i think imma have to switch it up

[crisp bronze]

5% is for people who just dont like marker

Like me

[golden sapphire]

Yeah marker just feels weird to use for me

And electric groove is RNG for some reason

[crisp bronze]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iBbFbPfivieliL2Zs/d1337FCIyMhJ?invite=cr-MSxRWWYsMTczNTU5NTQ5LA

[tiny comet]

You can for both if youre strong enough 😏

Havent faced a finn since july, good stuff tho

[rigid storm]

😕

[wicked tusk]

Just had match up against IG and i lost
i think PFG need to fix this move from IG, it was really unfair imo
#clips message

0:54 is the craziest moment that i've ever seen, i was learned how to counter that spin move in-match and IG still can do that thing, my goodness

[fleet birch]

I just jump off the map against them

not even worth my time

[tiny comet]

Lmaoooo

[dense pine]

I hit top 600 solos let's goooooooooo

[lapis lynx]

Nice job

[dense pine]

Am I cool enough for the cool kids club

[lapis lynx]

Yes

[fleet birch]

bro when are they gonna nerf TJ paddleboard

[icy umbra]

hard agree. i think im done playing this game until hitboxes are reasonable. my mental isnt strong enough for this.

[fleet birch]

LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT LMAO

I was like you know what

Is it worth playing this?

It hits in front of him

above him

behind him

priority

combos well

ive had like only shaggys today

and hes op af

[icy umbra]

the ability to move with paddle is what does it for me. just in case they manage to whiff with a hitbox like that.

[tiny comet]

⬅️↖️⬆️↗️➡️

[fleet birch]

i can go on and on about the bad balancing

like the fact that velma exists in this game and has in her current state for months now

[rough mason]

Why is agent smith dropping out of jab into clap

Like did I miss something

[fleet birch]

its bugged

again...

[rough mason]

So you’re telling me I just can’t play garnet right now

[fleet birch]

pretty much

lemme send u what just happend

[rough mason]

Cause I just lost 2 games with people dropping out jab into clap

[fleet birch]

i sent u the clips

[rough mason]

Where you send them at

[fleet birch]

dms

[rough mason]

OKAY cause that second clip was literally me

Imma go ahead and clock out until they fix it

[fleet birch]

first clip was almost worse tbh

[rough mason]

But jab into the clap is like the go to kill confirm

[fleet birch]

thats not even half of the bugs and dumb stuff ive been experiencing

[fleet birch]

ik

samurai jack is still braindead asf

[icy umbra]

I had a Jason fall out of jab clap earlier today too.

[fleet birch]

did u see my clip

it happened 4 times

[icy umbra]

Steven surviving dair at 140 while next to the blast zone is heart breaking 😭

[fleet birch]

it wasnt that

it was my punch going through him

didnt even do anything

wait wrong clip i meant this one

just went against #14 superman

safe to say i gave up

no reason for a tank to be so fast

time to give up vs superman too now

[rough mason]

Yea they need to fix that and we just played not too long ago I remember your name

[fleet birch]

bro

if u lose as samurai jack

skill issue tbh

[icy umbra]

Yea we did, I won't lie I got clapped.

[fleet birch]

why is his kit so braindead

[icy umbra]

I always check the rank of other garnets I play. I lost to you and another garnet named cashul.

[rough mason]

Yea I’m like 90 or something like that and you didn’t get clapped it was a good game 😂

[icy umbra]

You used star really well. I don't like the move, but you made me start considering using it more often.

[exotic hemlock]

guys don’t forget you can kill confirm with star on ledge

[icy umbra]

Honestly, I haven't used star on purpose since like week 2 of re-release. I have no idea how to make use of it lol.

Star got me killed alot when I was learning and I never recovered. Me and down B got beef.

[fleet birch]

i get stuck on ledge and they spike me off lmao

[exotic hemlock]

lmfaoo

[jolly flax]

WHY DOES GARENT HIT OX HAVE TO BE SO BIG. Like I can’t win any trades

[dark quiver]

True, she used to be smaller back in the beta

[tiny comet]

Cause she thicc asf

Honestly it really isnt garnet some characters moves have ridiculous hitboxes

[jolly flax]

Yeah that’s true but I experience this problem the most with garnet. Like if she had smaller hit box then she would be so much better in my opinion

[dark quiver]

Garnets clap would be more consistent if they gave it a vacuum like some other characters

[tiny comet]

They are too busy with adjusting marker cheese

😂

[dark quiver]

And failing at it 😭

It deserves to be nerfed tho honestly, had some 4k win garnet abuse it against me

[tiny comet]

F

[icy umbra]

same, i think that happened to me today too. died to jab into star IN THE TOP BLAST zone. its my fault for getting hit becuase it was obvious, but i died at like 8 percent.

[tiny comet]

Ima 5% center

[dark quiver]

Yeah, jab into star is criminal

[tiny comet]

Yep

[dark quiver]

I've been running 5% for the past few weeks now and it's been good

The downside is that I rarely use her down special now but you don't really need it anyway unless you want map pressure or to catch out armor abusers

[tiny comet]

Extra damage on the fiiist

[dark quiver]

[jolly flax]

Why am I so bad

[dense pine]

enemy dodge too much best suggestion just swing hard asf one direction it do the good things

[tiny comet]

You can do it

You gotta 1v1 fross

Pass the intiation

😂

[dark quiver]

posted some in #clips message

[tiny comet]

[dark quiver]

the ledge combo in the first video is a pretty fun confirm that seems to catch a lot of people off guard :o

i hit it against so many ppl, kinda underrated

[tiny comet]

😏

[dense pine]

Why does Tom have a fishing rod genuinely get rid of it

And the paddle board I finally found someone that disgusting

[tiny comet]

😂

[wicked tusk]

nice clips tbh, that's a good read

[dense pine]

They touched me everywhere and wouldn't stop

[exotic hemlock]

the thing about fishing rod is it can’t be predicted when they’re gonna cut it

[fleet birch]

honestly i see what u mean with velma now

I just went against a really good one

was mad confusing tho

[wicked tusk]

see, but i'm sure you still have confident that you still can beat her
but we just need to be more patient

[tiny comet]

Fishing rod is a bad version of dirt

[fleet birch]

Now i know how she plays i could prob beat her

[tiny comet]

If you close the distance you can get a free punish

Unlike dirt it doesnt have a great recovery

[fleet birch]

doesnt help that our dodge distance is shorter than her up attack

[wicked tusk]

from my velma oppt

1. mostly Velma will do the flashlight or sair, but even if we dodge from her sair and try hit her, she still can dodge from that punish
2. Even i try to move to under her while she's on the air, her up special on air is really strong and has a good knockback
3. always destroy her evidence as much as we can because while we can avoid from that van, but we also have to be careful from Velma herself

[fleet birch]

do u know her name

[wicked tusk]

froxygaming, the only velma main that i've encountered in 1s ranked until now
he's a good velma main, he is also one of my partners in 2s

[fleet birch]

oh i went against a different one

[jolly flax]

Thank you but I’ve been ranking up and down for three hours now

[jolly flax]

Oh no I would lose

[tiny comet]

😂

[dark quiver]

ty 🥰

[wicked tusk]

yep, it's official
we can dance with Agent Smith's clone

[dark quiver]

#clips message I love it when clap doesn't connect properly!!!!!

[tiny comet]

At what rank? O.o

[tiny comet]

Adds it to my clips

Yoink

[dark quiver]

@tiny comet i have an even better clip for you :) #clips message

[wicked tusk]

this is pretty exhausting in diamond 2 with garnet
mostly gain 10 RP against Samjack, Batman, etc, won with sweaty then lost mostly -19 RP

[dark quiver]

i knowww, i'm losing my mind and i'm only diamond 5

just played against 3 batmans, including a rank 56 gm batman

1 hr and 30 mins in and i'm at -15 rp from the time that i started

[wicked tusk]

man, that must be rough run for ya today, i'm sure you try to at least make from -15 to 0 or + RP at least

[dark quiver]

i'm going to stop haha, my clap has missed too many times today and i can't stand playing against all of these batmans 😔

[icy umbra]

I've been so close to M3, but the rp system has a grudge against me. 2 days ago, I had a hot streak and didn't lose a game for like an hour straight. I didn't get more than 10 rp a game, and averaged like 5 most of the time.

Now I'm masters 5 again, with like 50 rp.

Playing while tilted is a wild thing lol

CRAP I'm down to rank 26, I gotta fix my name 😦

[icy umbra]

So I just checked, the TJ that broke me yesterday was the rank 4 TJ. grandmaster rank 4 TJ wasn't harder to beat than a Plat TJ. The base character is just too much.

I matched against 3 grandmasters TJs yesterday, I'm being bullied 😂

[tiny comet]

Diamond 2+ the gatekeeping begins

[drowsy arch]

tj grandmasters are all bullies

[royal quartz]

This is garnet, back together.

[exotic hemlock]

and i’m never going down at the hands of the likes of you because i’m so much better

[lapis lynx]

Hearing that song reminds me, they should put jasper in the game

Her and Peridot are my most wanted Steven universe characters

[exotic hemlock]

i dont understand why shaggys charge up is so easy to cancel but garnets isn’t, like shaggy charging up is more rewarding then two stacks of rhythm

[lapis lynx]

Yeah, and dance is so laggy in company

Only time you really punish a shaggy for charging is if they do it in a bad spot

They love charging near the blast zone

[crisp bronze]

Still
You have characters that have much more priority over next su character.

[lapis lynx]

True

I'll be happy with more cartoon network characters in general

[crisp bronze]

I mean

Do you have another cn franchise that would fit in fighter, that is mad popular?

[lapis lynx]

Cartoon network is popular in general

A lot of people want more cn fighters

[crisp bronze]

Yea
But adventure time and Steven Universe was much bigger than anything else

Jack was probably 3rd

[lapis lynx]

Ppg is probably coming next season

[crisp bronze]

Well
It make sense

Its nostalgic for a lot of people too

[lapis lynx]

Yep

[crisp bronze]

Btw
I just figured out key to make cartoon that will have actualy big fan base

Don't treat watchers like average Minions gobblers

And have actualy more serious parts

[lapis lynx]

You don't see too many cartoons like that nowadays unfortunately

Actually well written

[crisp bronze]

That's not true actualy

Just not on cn

Things like Owl house or amphibia from Disney were goated

[lapis lynx]

I love both of them

They are peak cartoons

[crisp bronze]

They were really good
Its just the cn that fall off

[lapis lynx]

Disney is on top when it comes to cartoons rn

[crisp bronze]

Well
They need to do something good when their movies are trash

[lapis lynx]

Lol true

[crisp bronze]

I wonder when we will get another cartoon that will actualy bring more people.
After Owl house there was nothing i heard about

[lapis lynx]

I'm looking forward to the art of amphibia book coming out next year

Gravity falls also could be making a comeback

[crisp bronze]

Well
For now next animation im looking for is arcane season 2

Im hyped af

[lapis lynx]

🔥

[fleet birch]

u think thats bad?

#clips message

[slim musk]

[vocal dirge]

Man...there are channels where people are nice and friendly???

[true fiber]

just got recked by jmafia

[exotic hemlock]

wanna edit that to the vine boom sound

and then sad spongebob

okay erm

#clips message

i need a job 😭

[tiny comet]

Got the wedding skin

2 weeks till next season

3 garnets in a free for all o.o the one stripe

[fleet birch]

the power of garnet

[vocal dirge]

The Adam chat is just toxic and has like...4 Adam players with the rest being people mad that Adam ladder comboed them once.

[fleet birch]

black adams pretty op

and braindead

[slim musk]

Me too

[rough mason]

Is garnet hitboxes fixed yet

[fleet birch]

will they ever be

[rough mason]

Well I played the other day and everybody was dropping out of jab into the clap

Then I stopped playing for like the last 2 days cause wtf 😂. Literally garnet was unplayable

[fleet birch]

still is unplayable

im torturing myself with her

[rough mason]

Literally her go to kill confirm is bugged

[fleet birch]

and shes just bad

buggy C tier

how convenient

[rough mason]

Yeaaa hit me back when at least her kill confirm is fixed 😂

[fleet birch]

it might be a while

[rough mason]

That’s okay I need a mental break any way from MV

[fleet birch]

say goodbye for like 3 months

[tiny comet]

Master 3

Wedding skin is p2w even if you f2p

😏

Theyre some really bad master 1 players out there really only spamming one move

Mines better

[fleet birch]

im just giving up vs mortys again

[tiny comet]

Game is rough

I beat a ig for you meow

[fleet birch]

literally no point in trying

[fleet birch]

i give up vs them too

[tiny comet]

He was a cheeser

[fleet birch]

I lost cuz clap didnt work

[tiny comet]

Bro was camping ledge as a masters 1 ig

Bro had no shame

If i feel clap not going to work i neutral punch or side special

Or iad air upspecial for pizazz

Clap be selling just like jab be selling

From now on if i trade attack with up attack ground im going for a parry

Its ridic

Shoutout to the jason and superman who conceded

Saving me time

[fleet birch]

i swear

the devs just hate garnet

[tiny comet]

Well

They read the chat

I know that much

[fleet birch]

and ignore it

[tiny comet]

🙂‍↕️

[fleet birch]

they will nerf mory (S)

then buf him

[tiny comet]

Buff electric grooveu when?

Remove static electricity when?

Bro i hit ig 3 sets of combo chains in his mech form

He thorns all 3

I almost crashed out mentally

[fleet birch]

THE WAY I ALMOST JUST LOST CUZ TPOSE HAD NO KNOCKBACK

[tiny comet]

That happen to me on mojo map

He bounced on an invisible platform in the middle

In the air

I shouldve clipped it

[fleet birch]

ill send u mine

[tiny comet]

F

With the default skin too

Nasty work

[fleet birch]

wdym

[tiny comet]

Normally that’ll happen with the pirate skin for garnet

Cause the visual be misleading

[fleet birch]

no it was just a ghost hit

but not ghost

cuz it was a hit

it was and wasnt?

Devs pls read this chat more

[exotic hemlock]

who’s limitless and why are they 94 grandmaster on garnet

[fleet birch]

also giving up vs marvins now

[tiny comet]

Who knows 😭

[tiny comet]

Damns

[fleet birch]

like what can i do

I jab it phases thru them they fill the map with projectiles

like hello

[tiny comet]

Lmaoo

Gotta relax

Breathe

And turn up

Gotta find the rhythm

[fleet birch]

my shoulder bash just didnt even work on harleyt

[tiny comet]

She a tiny gyal

Elusiveeeee

[fleet birch]

what about my fist going thru the steven

or when i used that electro ball on u then went to spike and it didnt work

or my quad clap bug

or the tpose bug

😭

[icy umbra]

i was playing tilted AF and starting spamming elbow out of frustration, which made me start winning again. more elbow keeps being the answer.

[tiny comet]

Tiny belly boy

[tiny comet]

This is the way

I elbow the shid out of superman

[icy umbra]

i think i beat my first superman in like 3 weeks becuase of it 😭

[fleet birch]

superman is insane

like gotta be A+

[tiny comet]

Sair bash jump sair bash jump up air

He be holding that when he wanna ice breathing

[fleet birch]

They all complained about him being nerfed do ppl not realize when their. Characters r op

[tiny comet]

Armor killer op

[icy umbra]

I bet the invisible wall bug we've been dealing with is on the same wavelength as the morty dirty wall bug. On townsville for example, in the exact spots were the stage falls away on both sides, Morty's dirt walll can get stuck. becuase even though hazards are off in ranked, I think the dirt wall is registering as hitting the edge of the stage even when it isnt.

So i believe on stages with collapsible terrain, the game will randomly think the terrain is still present even if it was broken, making you bounce of terrain that isn't there.

[tiny comet]

Hmm

[icy umbra]

I know that's a lot first thing in the morning, but it was something that occurred to me as to what the issue might be.

[tiny comet]

Nah im just trying to picture the scenario

Ik it happens but it isnt my main gripe with this game atm

Just waiting for the next season on and off playing

[icy umbra]

Fair. I can only play every other day, I'm still shooting for M1, but I'm hoping the climb will be more worth it next season.

What are the most consistent ways to combo into air up special? The move almost never fully connects so I always either sair 1 into up air or just finish sair.

[tiny comet]

Ball or clap nvm i read that wrong

Dair ground bounce air up special

Combo 1 into side special bash hold up during bash animation to go into air upspecial works on tanks and tall characters shaggy ww ig superman

and others up air attack or sair for smaller characters depending on the d.i and hp dependent

Sair sair bounce off a wall and doing air up special to followup

Sair air upspecial when ever superman does beam

But i prefer sair bash

May get nerfed it is strong

[icy umbra]

It's strong, but it's only broken on DI imo. You get so much follow up.

[tiny comet]

You can jab iad (instant air dodge) air up special

But thats my useless tech

😏

[crisp bronze]

One of us
One of us
One of us

[tiny comet]

Nerf incoming

[crisp bronze]

Nah
Elbow B tier move

Nerf nair
Shitt broken

[tiny comet]

💀💀💀💀💀

Brother been saying bash best move since launch

Now its b tier

[icy umbra]

I killed IG with nair off the top at a hundred yesterday. I only agree with nair being crazy becuase of that interaction.

[tiny comet]

Pffffr

[lapis lynx]

Nair gang

[tiny comet]

Ngl

Using static electricity should be illegal

[lapis lynx]

Static shock perk

[icy umbra]

Is it good now?

[tiny comet]

Its asssss

[icy umbra]

Lol okay that's what I thought

[wheat dirge]

Is I’m wrong tho 😂

[tiny comet]

CUZ SHE THICCKER THAN A SNICKER

[wheat dirge]

Hell yeah she too THICC 💯🔥

[wicked tusk]

🗿

Hopefully Garnet will get a new taunt
Megan Thee Stallion Dance

[tiny comet]

👀

Buff

[icy umbra]

I think it would be fair if had armor like superman up ground.

Or which ever move the double fist up swing is.

We can't combo after it, and Arya would be cooked.

[tiny comet]

1000 damage or quicker startup

[rigid storm]

y’all are so weird 😔

[crisp bronze]

B tier ahhh move

[wicked tusk]

what you guys think if they buff Garnet's spinning multi-punch after side jab, make it more similar like supe's down attack

i mean from knockback direction, make it more to the ground

[tiny comet]

I need then adjust some other characters moves on their priority move concept

[crisp bronze]

Down jab is ok move. Tbh after changes every jab 2 have role now.
Things she actualy need is song buff, a lot of bug fixes and groove buff.

Anything else will make her monster

[tiny comet]

Electric groove forever F tier

[wicked tusk]

i hate when accidentaly misinput into double side jab, that waste my dodge meter and burn out faster

[tiny comet]

Only good for 2s with b.a no one else

[crisp bronze]

Bro its half of a bar, that you regain on hit anyway

[tiny comet]

[crisp bronze]

Its a weakest finisher form the 3 tho

Im using side jab only when i miss jab 1 and enamy didnt punish me for it yet

[tiny comet]

Jab 1 down special instant recover

😏

Jab neutral punch

[wicked tusk]

most of my oppts will keep their distance and w8 after i launch second side jab armor, that finisher's endlag is a bit longer

[tiny comet]

Everyone gets killed by it at least 2-3 times a set

Dont resist

[crisp bronze]

Its not that bad

[wicked tusk]

yea, it is what it is, this time is pretty rough run for me

[crisp bronze]

Anyway
I will not give you tips how i Play or how i view the game

You all playing chess, while im playing beat saber

[tiny comet]

Punch em into the dirt

[wheat dirge]

It’s obviously we gonna look at the body but got damn it’s just too cake up and who’s YALL it’s only me lol

[tiny comet]

Had a batman in masters 1 only using upspecial to kill /ladder me to death

He kept trying to cancel grapple

Ate the fist everytime

[wicked tusk]

chess, eh?
i think i get the clue from it

[tiny comet]

Also up attack charged has priority sometimes

🤷‍♂️

[crisp bronze]

Anyway
Im taking a break to next season probably mayby with short returns for tourneys

Game crushing 1 on 5 matches
Claps hitting less than 50% of the time
And its ig meta again

Like
At least fix this hold by tape game to be playable

[tiny comet]

😦

Ig not that badddd

(Its just rage inducing)

[wicked tusk]

ughh, i'm also starting hate ig especially when this ig runs anti projectile perk
and then keep do the up special

[tiny comet]

Down attack

A well timed shoulder bash

↙️dodge airupspecial ➡️ in the air ofc

[crisp bronze]

I know, but fighting 3 ig on 5 matches is not fun
You need to keep thinking bcs one mistake and you dead on 50, my damage is 600 to 170 and im barely winning, matches lasts for 6-7 minutes.

[tiny comet]

It really really be like that

And its overwhelmingly annoying

Theres a new bug or something going on with rocket fist double bouncing iron giant forcing a tech roll even if hes at 100+

[crisp bronze]

Bruh

Im slowly getting sick of the game. And not even the gameplay itself, but the technical side

[tiny comet]

But tbh

Certain moves are unbalanced and its mostly the multihitting ones

And some characters have agendas for them

Attack decay and tech roll wont fix those problems because theyre poorly balanced

If paddle boy has me on the edge of the map only place i can roll is left back into the combo

[crisp bronze]

I mean
Multihit moves are balanced around being stuck in animation so while you miss you are very vulnerable.

Ig with jab is breaking this move bcs its a fcking black hole you can't do nothing about, same for tom paddle

[tiny comet]

And he does the move 10+ a match not a set a match

Same for bugs nair

Same for reindog roll move

At least jack has bad recovery on whiff

These guys have no shame

No honor

[tiny comet]

We have a multi hitting move but its assssssss compared to every other one

Cause we trying to get to jab after that jab

I have to use down attack to punish people

Harley batman joker slid gotta use down attack cause jab gunna

Shaggy did dash attack but cant do jab cause its going to with cause hes on the ground

[crisp bronze]

Well
Kinda true

Still
Taking break
Fck this game

[slim musk]

#clips message

[lapis lynx]

Actin like they won't get duffed

[icy umbra]

There are only 2 types of iron giant. If they don't know how to loop, free win. If they know how to loop, auto lose. No in between.

[fleet birch]

am i really against #1 iron giant?

nope not doing that im jumping off

[fleet birch]

just do what i do lol

bro i hate batman too

so braindead

grappling hook up air

cant even dodge it

if u dodge early u get hit

if u dodge late u dont get the dodge off

[crisp bronze]

If i had time and actual drive to check every your message i would probably find you complaining about every character in the game

Bro
Stop being crybaby
Pls

[fleet birch]

Ill continue to complain

[crisp bronze]

🙃

[fleet birch]

No reason not to if garnets power wont even work

[icy umbra]

I also complain a lot, but I'm at least asking for advice, even if my question is complaint shaped lol

[tiny comet]

Fighting for ya life

[fleet birch]

cant really get advice for a character being op

[icy umbra]

You gotta put in the time now, so if BS character gets nerfs, they're light work. Also a small handful of garnets are thriving despite the state of the game. So it's possible, most of us just aren't good enough yet 🤷‍♂️

[fleet birch]

I mean once they fix her bugs ill stp complaining

especially if my clap wont even kill

[pearl badger]

What character don't you hate?

[slim musk]

[fleet birch]

Any of them that aren’t broken 😂

[rough mason]

Is garnet combos fixed yet?

[rough mason]

And to be fair I also hate Batman

[fleet birch]

hes just so fast

and his like running jab feels impossible to counter

[wicked tusk]

press advantage against tank chars like supe and ig is not helpful enough

[wicked tusk]

just lost from diamond 2 69 point --> diamond 3 0 point
mostly i lost 19 rp whether my oppts are higher or lower than my rank
i'm kinda my lost my edge and motivations to continue this garnet run in 1s

[tiny comet]

The gatekeepin

Gotta get in the zone for ones and go on a run

And cant mentally disconnect in matches just because theres a bugs tnj or ig

”Lock In’

I parried jason uppercut like 3 times he mentally gave up

[wicked tusk]

TnJ is one of hardest match up from my exp
if Tnj mains spamming just throwing jerry, i still can handle it
but this one, first this Tnj main release his dynamite but instead of smash it, this main throwing jerry first then smash the dynamite, and also the timing from them are kind of tricky
i'm sure TnJ still can beated, it just need more concentrate and patient, it's really exhausting

[icy umbra]

Very. When TJs realized that they can use dynamite without hitting it immediately and just use their air drift, they got so much more slippery off stage.

If you parry, they can hit you, you can't dodge throw it garnets too big, if you get hit by the dynamite they can hit you or just go around your while your in hit stun. I feel like you're better off respecting it, fully disengaging, and waiting for his next move.

[wicked tusk]

i still can play less aggressive and kill jerry with shoulder bash
but the thing is that annoyed me is Tom's up attack and Tom's pan
of course i can't fully blame it, because that need good movement tech

[icy umbra]

Yea, paddle is criminal, dair is criminal. I also learned that Jerry cork gets a full restock when Tom picks Jerry up.

[fleet birch]

iron giant nerf when

[tiny comet]

Bug fix clap when

[exotic hemlock]

since this bug it’s just hard to kill with garnet now

never realized how much i crutch jab to up special

[fleet birch]

Fr

[finite crown]

you prolly already know this but if you place star off the ledge and you grab them u throw them to the wall and they go off the side of the stage

[exotic hemlock]

yeah i love that tech a lot

it’s just a final stock type strat

[drowsy arch]

yeah the RP gain/ loss is really stupid in this game rn

[drowsy arch]

anyone have difficulty recovering vs jack?

sometimes i think he just edge guards me and there's nothing i can do. I really struggle with recovery in general with garnet

[wicked tusk]

you're not the only one, i had that exp before

• usually i'm always save my gauntlet launcher for that moment
• what i learned from Paulybear, that guy used air side attack
• use air up attack in case if Samjack is pretty on the edge

[drowsy arch]

ya... and i feel like i have to be perfect with my dodges back onto the platform or i get effed

[wicked tusk]

and also you can up dodge + press jump to escape from it, but it cost pretty much dodge bar

[drowsy arch]

ya i try to dodge jump but i dont dodge and jump up

i heard it only costs 1 bar instead of 2

maybe i need to do that more

[wicked tusk]

mostly i did this aggressively because if i do normally, it won't work properly

[fleet birch]

Hes kinda like the complete counter to garnet imo

[drowsy arch]

god it really pisses me off when jack does full charge/ almost full charge neutral attack and it hits behind him/ above him

[fleet birch]

exactly why hes a complete counter

batman too

[wicked tusk]

or you can jump + air up special

[fleet birch]

ive found that neutral punch is good against them

just beat this shaggy thats been tormenting me hope i dont get matched with him again lol

[slim musk]

#clips message

[fleet birch]

they fall out of my up jab

[lapis lynx]

Nice 0 to death

[rare timber]

Bro garnet feels so good besides jab into upspecial dropping 24/7 but other than that she might be my most fun character fr

[fleet birch]

shes really fun

until...

[rough mason]

Jab into clap still dropping 🤦🏽

[fleet birch]

still getting the ghost hits

and the tpose not knocking back

[rough mason]

Have mercy 🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽

[fleet birch]

and when i up jab in air i fall super fast

sometimes when i touch the ground i dont get my jump back

thats just the ones i can think of

[rough mason]

#fixGarnet

[fleet birch]

#buffgarnet

honestly

make the gauntlets have more control

no reason why they cant

[tiny comet]

#nerfgarnet

[true fiber]

buff and fix garnet

[exotic hemlock]

i might be biased but should a projectile with no cooldown (pie, sandwich) break gauntlets?

a perk called heavy gauntlet that makes your gauntlet stronger but you get a longer cooldown

[tiny comet]

Some do some dont

I dont have the strats on it tho

[fleet birch]

[jolly flax]

This game hates garnet

[wicked tusk]

stay strong and always close your fist

[tiny comet]

[slim musk]

#clips message

[pearl badger]

Garnet brothers

[tiny comet]

Si?

[pearl badger]

it is possible do jab>iad with sair

?

[tiny comet]

Not any more

You can do jab jab 2 in iad sair

But its requires a ground bounce

And a certain d.i

[pearl badger]

jab 2?

[tiny comet]

Jab jab down

[pearl badger]

a

[pearl badger]

ooooh, so cool

i was testing jab to sideb in aid sair

[tiny comet]

You can do air up special or up air attack and even down special as iads

But its useless tech

😏

[tiny comet]

Garnet punches be so satisfying to hit

Punch em into the dirtttt

[slim musk]

pionero de techs

[pearl badger]

creadores del tech

[pearl badger]

this can work? #combos message

[tiny comet]

The sair wont work in the air unless a read

But everything else yes

Small characters can be iffy with iad

[slim musk]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-man-cook-gif-6664196623883493304

[pearl badger]

with morty works at 0% but doesn't kill

let me test with another small char

it's weird

really weird

[tiny comet]

Indeeds

[pearl badger]

@slim musk toma nota

[slim musk]

ok estoy tomando nota

[tiny comet]

Garnet combos be consistently inconsistent

50/50

[pearl badger]

and can't start the combo with nair becuase tech happens

buff garnet

[wicked tusk]

if you match up against small chars

[pearl badger]

i think it is possible to do a tech chase with downtilt

[tiny comet]

Nerf garnet

Buff

[slim musk]

up b

[wicked tusk]

we'll see for the next big patch at day 1 S3
right now, keep close your fist and punch them faster and harder before they hit first

[tiny comet]

A down special rework

Cause they cant fix marker but they need to fix clap

😭

[icy umbra]

I know clap barely functions, but has anyone experimented to see if dair sair 1 pops up small characters enough for jab ball jab clap to connect? I'm gonna lab when I get home but was wondering if anyone already knew.

[icy umbra]

👀 forced auto tech down tilt loops? Maybe only have to worry about reacting to left or right after d tilt?

[wicked tusk]

gg @woeful goblet

luckily i learned from our previous matches

[woeful goblet]

ggs!! looking forward to our next match again hahah

[wicked tusk]

btw, this is my first win against garnet ngl

[wicked tusk]

🤜 🤛

[wicked tusk]

am i the only think that every jabs from samjack almost guaranteed get bounced?

[icy umbra]

DI up gets me out of it sometimes, but it feels random.

[tiny comet]

[drowsy arch]

Lol it's so satisfying when i charge punch and a samurai jack does side special right into it and dies

[solid gyro]

What are the best perks for Garnet?

[fleet birch]

puglist and 5% are popular

[little nexus]

hey can anyone give me some easy and generic combos i got no idea how to play this chick

[wicked tusk]

still it's pretty sweaty experience when match up against every samjacks because samjack has good side jab range than garnet
this is why movement techs are most importants to learned

[exotic hemlock]

is there a specific distance for this? or do you just know how far his side special goes from playing

everytime i try to punish a side special i whiff

[fleet birch]

luck

[wicked tusk]

Prediction and luck
mostly casual Samjacks will do the full side special when they desperate back to stage

[fleet birch]

love how this steven could only win when a watermelon was taking up 90% of the screen

[exotic hemlock]

they should’ve just giving samurai grab to garnet instead of this stupid dance

[fleet birch]

well the dance is a nice boost

buff dance and garnets star move

[exotic hemlock]

is there like a way to avoid not being able to use star?

like when i’m fighting someone in the air once i want to get back to platform my down special doesn’t register at all and I almost die

is it bug? am I out of moves in air?

[fleet birch]

honestly idk

i swear sometimes i just cant use it either

[tiny comet]

Sometimes it just expires when your trying to get back, or you already use two specials in the air on your way back and havent touch the ground

[drowsy arch]

it's more of a hard read vs a punish

you have to get jack when he's on autopilot and start charging before he does the move

[fleet birch]

bruh they still havent nerfed jokers combo

[exotic hemlock]

i just want that card cooldown nerfed

and up attack

[fleet birch]

all of it tbh

[exotic hemlock]

literally you could run away and your card is there again

and you don’t even have to approach

[fleet birch]

yea

bro

whats the point of playing joker

if ur just gonna do that one combo all game

hello?

like instead of having unique matches where you have to play well you choose to have a free 0-70 combo??

[exotic hemlock]

maybe its a societal issue where people want to do the bare minimum but still be praised for it

no one seeks discomfort

[fleet birch]

r u like

a psychologist

[exotic hemlock]

no

lmfaooo

[fleet birch]

whats the psychology of jason mains

[exotic hemlock]

i don’t know I don’t play them enough to know

i don’t see a reason to main jason if not for his jab side special

but you still need to sweat a little more than joker

[fleet birch]

slightly

i hate how everytime i try to parry it seems my opponent forgot how to hit me

[fleet birch]

actually i just had this and clipped it

i didnt use any specials and it didnt work

[exotic hemlock]

put it in bug reports please

i really want it fixed

[tiny comet]

Pain

[fleet birch]

Do u know what I mean

[wicked tusk]

that mean this right?

[tiny comet]

Yep

[icy umbra]

this is a big reason why i dont use star. you get 2 uses of special before touching the ground, reactivating star counts as a special use.

[icy umbra]

what stage has the wide horizontal blast zones?

as in, what stages are the hardest to kill off the sides? instead of off the top or a spike?

[wicked tusk]

townsville i guess

[solid gyro]

Thank you. What about in the other two categories? I feel like 100 might be good for me but any others I should consider?

[wicked tusk]

when me still diamond 2
lost -16 RP against ww GM

what a fair match

[wicked tusk]

damn, i was lucky that i just won against Morty (master 5)
it was really exhausting and frustrating
but +14 RP, it's not enough imo

[fleet birch]

Honestly the other two are just whatever u prefer some like the extra 5% movement but some say it messes with their combos

The 100 one is pretty popular too

[tiny comet]

F

[solid gyro]

I'm not good enough to worry about messing up combos so no worry there, lol. Thanks for the info!

[wicked tusk]

my God
i'm start to give up man, lost -19 RP against same rank Diamond until lower oppt is really rough
i understand if i lost against lower rank gold-plat and lost -19, but at the same rank, it's a bit questionable
lost against higher like Master-GM could cost -14-16 RP

this is why i'm really want pfg to focus on improving modes and etc like netcode and contents instead of fully focusing on balance
there's no end about balance because every players will keep complaining and ask to nerf them

Anyway, have you any suggestions about match up against :

• TnJ

• WW

• Shaggy

• Superman

• So far i've met only one-two ww mains, they both are master and GM.

• TnJ, i can play passively like running and keep dodge, but the question is when i can strike them because this good TnJ main also can learn my playstyle and keep jump and pan on my face

• Superman, same like TnJ, i can play safe but the thing is Superman dash is pretty long

• Shaggy, my most complain is he is pretty fast for bruiser imo

I'm really want to play Garnet in 2s
but matchmaking in 2s is takes longer than 1s, play solo is kinda risky

[icy umbra]

-19 for losing to GM 81 joker

sadness

[tiny comet]

The gatekeeping

[tiny comet]

I feel this pain bro trust

Diamond 1-2 gatekeeping

Masters V = Why are you still playing switch characters +4 rp beat masters 1 marvin, -19 rp lost to gm stripe

Masters 1,2 = you enjoy pain?

[wicked tusk]

sry, what's that mean?

[tiny comet]

Gatekeeping = matchmaking making it difficult for you to progress

[wicked tusk]

ah, i see

[tiny comet]

[icy umbra]

and it seems only jokers and mortys are playing today, this is exhausting

[tiny comet]

I get better taking breaks

The grind never stops 😂

Only answer is …

Now if only i convince ajax to buff neutral punch moreee

[fleet birch]

They’re all rough matchups

[lapis lynx]

Next patch punch will kill at 0