A garnet Beetlejuice skin would have gone hard
#Garnet
signal dirge
I mean you can simply use it when the opponent is recovering low
Or just to show up faster
No not the platform slingshot meta
crisp bronze
ye
sairs from this tech will go crazy
will need to implement it
for now im using slide dash attack
but its a bit tricky to do
signal dirge
You can get horizontal alot so air up special is my guess
Lemme see something rq
Like what's your thoughts in the practicality of this approach
And you time your upspecial based on if you think they will dodge in or not
Actually you could probably sair 1 upspecial and cover both
They'd go over my head in this example tho
pearl dust
JAB 2 ARMOR
AUGHHHH
MY TIP CREAMYYY
now all they gave to do is give armor to the rest of her grounded normals again
🥹
signal dirge
Sounds busted but let's see it play out
signal dirge
Bros grandmaster? How many masters characters do you have?
toxic walrus
None besides Garnet.
signal dirge
See I'm not gm. Still casual
signal dirge
Is garnet falling faster?
Like. What
I'm getting slid by another garnet in 2s in gold bro how is this happening
I keep sding
tiny comet
I'm getting slid by another garnet in 2s in gold bro how is this happening
Dm the clip?
signal dirge
No
You can have ledge slam tech value tho
I left extra cause the ending was cool
signal dirge
Also I assumed everyone knew you could do this so I never really said it
frozen iris
But I like Dr.Pepper...
jolly flax
Why am I FACING A GRANDMASTER WHEN IM NOT EVEN IN MASTERS YET
tiny comet
Thats just the way it is
toxic walrus
Welp.
Ending the night at GM#86.
Hopefully I won't slide too far down before I get home from work.
crisp bronze
frozen iris
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iwfXSKorcH3_6_Ms2/d1337vdRFOgW?invite=c...
Oh. So that's what being good looks like. Damn.
lapis lynx
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iwfXSKorcH3_6_Ms2/d1337vdRFOgW?invite=c...
Holy, that was nice
neat igloo
where all the koths at i need some runs
drowsy arch
Do u guys think garnet should b labelled as a tank?
mild field
Do u guys think garnet should b labelled as a tank?
With the size of her fat hitbox, sure lets goooo
drowsy arch
She has a lot of armor like superman and mega heavy too
rough mason
Just got sauced by a gizmo
tiny comet
The struggle continues
rough mason
She has a lot of armor like superman and mega heavy too
Superman is a stretch
She got her neutral ground and now her jab strong and I hardly ever use the neutral ground
rough mason
But my Garnet mains what’s the best perks?
exotic hemlock
But my Garnet mains what’s the best perks?
depends on you, for ones i use marker, snowball, 100, and pugalist
some people use 5% though
instead of marker
tiny comet
Electric groove “hot caca”
rough mason
Electric groove “hot caca”
I don’t even think that perk was any good
tiny comet
It was good for about 3 months in beta
Then they made it rng
Thought the circuit skins cost 500 gleamium and the token but it was OR instead of and
So now i have a new garnet skin
lapis lynx
But my Garnet mains what’s the best perks?
My preferred perks are 5%, press the advantage, speed force assist, and pugilist
rough mason
I use the the speed force perk over 100 also
lavish berry
Wow taz players are even more insufferable now
fleet birch
Wow taz players are even more insufferable now
how so?
lavish berry
The new changes are making them even more campy
lavish berry
also garnet feels worse. feels like things that normally wouldn't whiff are missing and not connecting. like they nerfed hitboxes on her or something
crisp bronze
also garnet feels worse. feels like things that normally wouldn't whiff are miss...
bro
she literaly A tier now
xd
lavish berry
she literaly A tier now
ill take your word for it
tiny comet
signal dirge
Garnet is not a tier you quit your trolling
I use groove. 5% is best but all of them feel like nothing except marker which feels like a nerf
crisp bronze
Garnet is not a tier you quit your trolling
she can be
i never had easier time in this game with destroying everyone
the only match ups i have problems is taz and tnj
rest is manhandled
especialy when i found that you have PURE 0tD if enamy do a wrong DI
on lower maps
or higher with last stand
signal dirge
I mean. I'll agree can be. I think when things are going well for garnet she's high A
Also taz kicks my butt
On average tho?
signal dirge
No way. Garnets good when your a god and can outplay your opponents
crisp bronze
you seen clip i did to harley?
crisp bronze
ye but im slowly getting back to my movement from before break
and holy
with slide im doing absurd things
im actualy excited by game again
lavish berry
aight im getting back into the garnet feel
lavish berry
literally just didnt play for 2 weeks
lavish berry
lmao i would but im in a call with my gf as she's doing work and im just screwing around
signal dirge
Yk fross I haven't played in a while but I'll brawl ya
Practice moment
Can show me the crazy power
I added you on my bros account if ya wanna
signal dirge
Sent :3
crisp bronze
i ment 1v1
but sure we can play like 1 2v2 xD
signal dirge
Sorry didn't know I had to go here
crisp bronze
welp
signal dirge
It'll just be fast lmao
I whiffed the diag dodge whoops
Finally ready for the rerank
That didn't go well
Slightly better
crisp bronze
deadly tempo still works
crisp bronze
Idk what that means.
that im moving like monke on crack
THIS MAP
IS SO ASSS
jesus
signal dirge
It's scary. Also more stuff works on garnet
crisp bronze
ye
some mix ups were really nice
signal dirge
It's certainly hell to escape
signal dirge
I'm switching between in and out. I think it's true on bigger charactwrs
crisp bronze
right before you i did it to velma
signal dirge
I'm doing my best to take some sweat on ya
signal dirge
?
signal dirge
How do I play if he just parried everything
lapis lynx
https://tenor.com/view/garnet-steven-universe-punching-punching-air-gif-26778137
Garnet gatling
signal dirge
He just parried like 5attacks in a row
crisp bronze
dspecial is easiest move to parry in the game
lapis lynx
Bro is daigo
rancid cedar
Look at all these mfs
“Garnet is bottom 1”
“Garnet is D tier”
Now they stopped downplaying their character because shes
tiny comet
Tag me in Z
rancid cedar
BROKEN
tiny comet
👋
crisp bronze
PFFFF
crisp bronze
“Garnet is bottom 1”
“Garnet is D tier”
Now they stopped downplaying their chara...
she still d tier
what do you mean
signal dirge
I wanted to see if there was any window of parry in that last part
crisp bronze
fleet birch
she has a 0td?
rancid cedar
she has a 0td?
Ofc, garnet mains have started abusing 0 to deaths
tiny comet
Pfffft
fleet birch
I didnt even know she had one
tiny comet
Propaganda
fleet birch
Send to me
rancid cedar
Propaganda
What propaganda?
fleet birch
time to pay these characters back
fleet birch
What propaganda?
rancid cedar
I got the clip it’s real easy to hit. I have lose 3 lives to due to it and lost a ranked game
signal dirge
How do you play on that map man
crisp bronze
I got the clip it’s real easy to hit. I have lose 3 lives to due to it and lost ...
send it
probably its not even t0d
signal dirge
Do we currently have a true 0td w no escape?
crisp bronze
or its very DI dependent
tiny comet
Brother d.i the wrong way
fleet birch
i find batman to be too fast still
rancid cedar
Do we currently have a true 0td w no escape?
Yes it’s 100% true and easy
HEAR YE HEAR YE, garnet mains have done it again!!! #clips message
rancid cedar
probably its not even t0d
“A tier” and “high b tier” my ass. This character is broken bro
crisp bronze
“A tier” and “high b tier” my ass. This character is broken bro
send me direct link
to it
and i can tell you then
if its t0d
or not
signal dirge
Whaat
rancid cedar
send me direct link
rancid cedar
Yes it’s 100% true and easy
HEAR YE HEAR YE, garnet mains have done it again!!!...
But it’s here too
crisp bronze
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009538859417215147/1275575277128515685...
bro
its a bug with ledge
tiny comet
When you double bounce on the ledge you slip out of bounds
crisp bronze
and very rare to be more specific
tiny comet
Alot of characters can do that
rancid cedar
bro
its a bug with ledge
Bro it’s a 0 to death
crisp bronze
Bro it’s a 0 to death
🙃
rancid cedar
Why u always downplaying
lavish berry
I see jake is insufferable to fight again
signal dirge
In no way
tiny comet
ALOT
signal dirge
Like alot of characters can trigger it
rancid cedar
But what did I expect every main likes to downplay their brokenness
signal dirge
Also fross I lost all my focus
crisp bronze
if you want to see DI able t0d i can show you
rancid cedar
Morty Finn Arya now garnet
signal dirge
Show me fr
signal dirge
Demo more like delusions
tiny comet
I see jake is insufferable to fight again
Its not bad bad, its really is that no one really plays him so we dont know the matchup
crisp bronze
Morty Finn Arya now garnet
bro
stop the cap
its a bug THAT need to be removed
but holy
its not ToD
tiny comet
Still annoying tho
rancid cedar
if you want to see DI able t0d i can show you
Diable 0 to death. That’s broken
crisp bronze
^
crisp bronze
Diable 0 to death. That’s broken
will send you
rancid cedar
Two zero to deaths
rancid cedar
Perfect balancing by PFG
signal dirge
It's hard to escape but like. Once someone says. Oh just di out. You never die to it again
Unless you get red
Read
rancid cedar
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iwfXSKorcH3_6_Ms2/d1337vdRFOgW?invite=c...
Broken
wtf is that
Loop
Nahh
fleet birch
nvm just 3-0 this arya
crisp bronze
she had 2 places where she could di
and 1 where she could dodge
its not even full true combo
rancid cedar
she had 2 places where she could di
If Tom and Jerry loop is considered one even if it’s diable so should garnets
signal dirge
Sair 1 bash is crazy. I escape it but sometimes it gets me a few times. And you can just replace jumps w dodges when you run out
rancid cedar
HEAR YE HEAR YE GARNET HAS A LOOP AND 2 zero to deaths
fleet birch
HEAR YE HEAR YE GARNET HAS A LOOP AND 2 zero to deaths
our turn
rancid cedar
this game is cooked
crisp bronze
i mean
im ok with read gameplay tho
as long as they give me frame data
rancid cedar
Im going to general chat with this
rancid cedar
Let me download the clip rq
fleet birch
<:jerry_fist:1007095140034281602>
🙌
crisp bronze
Demo more like delusions
btw
you playing much better than last time.
your dodges aproved
your movement aproved
and your basic combos aproved
but you still have problems with exploiting advantage state
tiny comet
Needs more
fleet birch
steven makes me realise how bad garnets dodge is
crisp bronze
steven makes me realise how bad garnets dodge is
dodge is the only thing that holding her back from 0td combos
dodge is slightly to short to hit these
xD
rancid cedar
Bruh thanks a lot frosstea
If you didn’t get involved people would have said it was true
🤦♂️
crisp bronze
ye
i hate gaslight
of any kind
and i dont want people to think she is stronger than she is
🙃
fleet birch
dodge is the only thing that holding her back from 0td combos
yea...
rancid cedar
When you are afk I will do it
crisp bronze
A bunch of people think beetlejuice has an unescapable infinite
it is what it it
but tbh
i think im closer and closer to find some finn like combos
why im the only one who actualy develop combs for garnet 😭
rancid cedar
i think im closer and closer to find some finn like combos
Bro send the Finn combo to me and don’t post
I have been enjoying Finn andjoker
I don’t want any nerfs
But the community is making it hard
rancid cedar
well
im keeping them for myself
💀💀
crisp bronze
this with harley was the best i hit for now tho
fleet birch
i think the movement changes made lebron stronger
rancid cedar
High levels mfs will be keeping game breaking shi
And hitting it in tournaments 🤦♂️
crisp bronze
And hitting it in tournaments 🤦♂️
its not that easy tho
bcs garnet have literaly 0 moves that are not DI dependent
rancid cedar
bcs garnet have literaly 0 moves that are not DI dependent
Stop downplaying
crisp bronze
try play her
you will see
that every time you hit the move
they flying in other directions
signal dirge
but you still have problems with exploiting advantage state
Yeah you usually can't get as much in 2s since ur hit it of combo
crisp bronze
ye
bcs your enamy is stoopid
you have 2 frame dodge window
between sair and elbow
rancid cedar
No
rancid cedar
How did you master enemy not dodge?
crisp bronze
this is the only situation where its true
when they di down
and they barley bounce
so i can hit it true
as i said
this combo i did is VERY di dependent
rancid cedar
this combo i did is VERY di dependent
All of this is just opinionated
tiny comet
The best move in mvs history
crisp bronze
All of this is just opinionated
you can try it
rancid cedar
At the end of the day garnet needs some tweaks
crisp bronze
the gaunt bug need to be throwed out
but for now she seems like Low a/ top B
and most people still put her in low b
or c
crisp bronze
nair is now very good tool
and i will not deny it
i dont use it as much as other garnets that know what to do tho
fleet birch
i was tryna show this wild garnet the jab up special jab clap
and they ran into it and died
😢
crisp bronze
bruh
average garnet player
no wonder people think she c tier
when most garnet spamming jab and dying
xd
crisp bronze
for me its waste of free jab
tiny comet
Neutral jab
lapis lynx
trust in the punch
fleet birch
no wonder people think she c tier
to the average player she prob is
crisp bronze
to the average player she prob is
i think problem is that she is more than JAB INTO JAB INTO JAB INTO...
fleet birch
i think problem is that she is more than JAB INTO JAB INTO JAB INTO...
yea but some of her stuff is kinda hard to understand and so many oyher chars are way easier
crisp bronze
well
kidna true
fleet birch
well
kidna true
and her jab is kinda bad ngl
Like its a great jab in air
on ground tho
signal dirge
I was drowning in it
What I lack in 1v1 punish I make up for in gameplans and strategy and survival in 2v2
Tho fross you catch me on ledge more than most. I usually feel uncontested
crisp bronze
Tho fross you catch me on ledge more than most. I usually feel uncontested
i have terrible gameplay on wall
but im very good at the ledge
fleet birch
arya is still a nightmare to face oml
tiny comet
Santy be grinding both 1s and 2s, respect
crisp bronze
ok
i labed for like 15 min
and things i discovered
the tod i was trying to do is impossible as true combo
bcs sair into elbow have VERY NARROW dodge window
but
yea elbow into jamp sair is true every time
and at 100-120 its true after double jump
fleet birch
I FOUND ANOTHER GARNET
crisp bronze
Ok nvm
Sair into shoulder sometimes is true
Idk
It feels so random
Mayby you need to tilt shoulder right way?
Fck it
Will lab it tomorrow
fleet birch
2 garnets so far
signal dirge
It's true on garnet I could not escape
I was spaming dodge and di out
I wish I didn't have a life. I'd be the 1# 2s garnet
signal dirge
I don't think so imo
fleet birch
I don't think so imo
If I made a move it was a huge punishment
drowsy arch
I don't know how to beat jack
he absolutely destroys me
movespeed and jabs and range and hitboxes
i can't deal with him
i can't deal with his edge guard
he gets me off the stage and i can't recover
tiny comet
Nair and neutral punch mostly how i beat him
And double jumping his sairs or side special
Nair op
Rocket to reset neutral
Electric ball to stop his nair approach
I neutral punch if he spamming
He be dyin
drowsy arch
idk if i play any jack who is the same rank as me (plat 3) i get destroyed
tiny comet
Understandable
drowsy arch
are there any guides on what to do to punish dodges?
tiny comet
Sometimes i’ll get hit by side special 3 times
drowsy arch
i don't understand that concept in this game
drowsy arch
idk if i should just quit garnet
i feel like i'm just trash with her
and i feel horrible about the game lately when i play her
LOL switche to bugs just now and annhialated this batman. I never feel like i'm winning vs batman
ya maybe garnet just isn't my char
it was a plat batman too... same level of player i always struggle with
delicate elm
What is the garnet 0td
tiny comet
What is the garnet 0td
Its a bug that requires the right circumstance and an opponent d.i away from you
rough mason
Garnet = hard mode
I agree
rough mason
I’m also addicted to garnet I’m like top 80 or sum like that when it come to garnet
I be fluctuating I come home from work and I’m back down to like 90😭
drowsy arch
why is the matchmaking and elo gain so awful
tiny comet
Harder up top i guess
tiny comet
Todays tip is “Instead of wasting a dodge to get back on stage just should bash back on stage instead just make sure its on cooldown”
lavish berry
Of course as soon as I get to diamond I fight a gold shaggy who is very good. Annoying
lavish berry
I fear I peak diamond with garnet
tiny comet
Diamond 1 is the gatekeeping era
They’ll put you vs masters 1 on purpose
Just gotta win your winnable matchups and win 1/3 of your bad matchups
And pray theres no gizmos, t&j or any matchups you win 1/20 sets in
rancid cedar
IS THAT COMBO I DID TO ZEL REALLY ALMOST OTD
Hear ye hear ye
crisp bronze
Hear ye hear ye
Testing things
drowsy arch
god why does bj have a stupid ass loop.
i wish they would ban new chars from ranked for like 2 weeks?
clearly they don't playstest them
I'm soooo mad that this BJ loop is in the game. It's so effing easy to execute too. It's just jab jab neutral special
crisp bronze
I'm soooo mad that this BJ loop is in the game. It's so effing easy to execute t...
you know you can di it
right?
drowsy arch
oh can you?
u have to move away from him?
lemme change my dummy setting then
looks pretty un di-able to me
my bot is set on dodge random after hitstun and i'm getting 60 damage
crisp bronze
im almost sure you can di it
drowsy arch
ok nvm
ur right
u di away and u dont get stuck in it
wow okay thanks mb for getting mad
SOOOOO for garnet we take over 50 damage even if we di correctly because we are big bodied
jason takes 78 and iron giant takes 78 before the attack decay from jab comes in and we fall out
this is a dumb oversight
crisp bronze
this is a dumb oversight
50 damage is...ehh
you have normal comboses for that much
they need to remove it
but its not THAT bad
drowsy arch
78 on IG and jason tho
from a jab
and there is no execution needed
there's a funky ground bounce bug happening too. I noticed if you ground bounc someone on the edge of the stage... the momentum can sometimes be enough that they "tech" off the stage and into the blast zone (specifically on dexters lab 1v1 version)
i did nair ground bounce, jab, gauntlets ground bounce and then my opponent got yeeted into the blast zone with a bad tech LOL
mild field
Hear me out
Using Garnet's up-air is really good for recovery. If you get knocked toward the blast zone but survive and have no jumps or dodges left (out of your normal recovery options), your best option is to spam up-air. I swear, it lets you glide across the map.
signal dirge
Yeah. You're right it's not a debate
It also will let you air stall. Up airing when someone thinks your gonna land is good against like black adam
Remove allys picking up your star. You want a passive teamate ability. Future vision kiss.
When an ally stands in garnets rythym for atleast a full stack they gain future vision which would give them an eye above the player on a timer.
This will let the target freely evade one attack and things that consume dodge meter will be half cost.
The effect fades when a stack would decay. You cannot extend this with more dance
Electric groove would apply it tho
Thoughts?
wicked tusk
End me @crisp bronze
i just got crashed again
crisp bronze
spaghettiversus at it finest
wicked tusk
do you guys know what G3TTV's region from?
wicked tusk
eu
hmm, i think this is starting get a lot of sense
i'm from Asia region, so when MU against u and G3 who from EU region, crashed will might happens
crisp bronze
:/
tiny comet
exotic hemlock
i love garnet rn
she’s truly balanced, her fights seem winnable
her up air is underrated
shoulder bashing is the best thing
if you aren’t nair spam shoulder bash
you are missing out on free damage
crisp bronze
she’s truly balanced, her fights seem winnable
She is probably golden standard how balanced character should look like
Strong, but without bullshitt mechanics
rigid storm
Anyone else find the gizmo matchup not that bad? I thought it was supposed to be really bad for her
icy umbra
Gizmo is one of the characters I feel helpless against. I learned recently that you can sing the popcorn and music notes, but the sing move is so slow that it doesn't feel worth it.
And he is so small, I whiff moves by mere pixels alot of the 😭
rigid storm
Maybe I’ve just not fought a good gizmo yet tbh but I just try to spam the dancing move whenever I can and it seems to work
But yeah the whiffs are crazy
crisp bronze
Good gizmo is problematic, but match up is winnable
icy umbra
What's your general game plan against him? Is there anything you find particularly punishable? Or is it mostly set play and player reads?
signal dirge
I figured out why garnet feels like she's falling faster. The newest update added some more imput lag
crisp bronze
What's your general game plan against him? Is there anything you find particular...
You cant let him set up. Playing full agro seems like a best way to beat him
Spam elbow every time you can try to predict Arrows with song and be just as agressive and sticky as possible
You can take some damage in process but its worth it, bcs he dying much earlier than you
signal dirge
Can he still take you to the top for free and kill you?
crisp bronze
After patch i think its much easier to get out this combo
And even if you do, garnet doesn't die on low %
If you di right
Bcs she thick
icy umbra
The problem I have with trying to stay close to characters like gizmo and TnJ is after getting in, their ability to scrap up close is equally as nuts. I try to space around them, but their neutral is so much stronger than garnets.
rigid storm
Jake is just a nightmarish matchup for me fr don’t know what to do
icy umbra
I've only fought a small handful of bad Jakes. If he is spaming the stretchy arm and horse, I just wait it out and wait for mistakes. I've only run into like 4 of them though.
crisp bronze
The problem I have with trying to stay close to characters like gizmo and TnJ is...
Its not
If you can dodge Jerry he is not that hard
Elbow kills Jerry on one hit tho
pastel torrent
She is probably golden standard how balanced character should look like
Strong,...
I love this
Some mechanics are just ruining the competitive aspect of the game
For most characters I can name at least one crazy unfair mechanic
crisp bronze
Tbh when im fighting top players in this patch i doesnt feel any disadvantage now vs any characters
crisp bronze
Bcs i doesnt have any bullshitt tech, but garnet have sick damage and very versitile kit
Like
Wait
I will show you one thing
pastel torrent
Yeah exactly
And every move doesn’t combo into another
Some characters have 50-60dmg kill confirms
It’s crazy
crisp bronze
And every move doesn’t combo into another
Nah
That's not true
Most people on garnet doesnt have combos
pastel torrent
That’s fine
crisp bronze
That's how good garnet looks like
crisp bronze
Bro could di it tho
But he fcked 2 doi
Di
Anyway
Its best comeback i did
Like
Garnet is much stronger than people think, but most players just doesnt utilize kit properly
drowsy arch
I got diamond yesterday in 2s then dropped right back to platinum a few games later and went on a lose streak haha
The nair changes feel rly good for 2s. I feel like a wall lol
I have this issue where I lose my concentration in 2s and stop playing good neutral.
icy umbra
I didn't realize Elbow killed Jerry that's very useful. Is there any helpful tips for navigating around TnJ paddle?
toxic walrus
why im the only one who actualy develop combs for garnet 😭
That's cap brother.
toxic walrus
I didn't realize Elbow killed Jerry that's very useful. Is there any helpful tip...
Garnet has 3 options to kill that mouse, tackle, down air shockwave and neutral attack.
You might need 5% damage for them to work tho.
toxic walrus
Like
Garnet is much stronger than people think, but most players just doesnt ut...
Once again, we agree completely on this.
icy umbra
This whole time I thought the only move that broke Jerry was charged ground neutral
tiny comet
Garnet has 3 options to kill that mouse, tackle, down air shockwave and neutral ...
Theres more… sike
😏
I either kill jerry instantly or attack tom immediately cause they dont expect it depending on the situation ofc
lapis lynx
I remember dtilt killing Jerry back in the beta
tiny comet
Truth but it is what it is
icy umbra
Does nair kill Jerry uncharged?
rigid storm
Down air shockwave is so satisfying to use
drowsy arch
I didn't realize Elbow killed Jerry that's very useful. Is there any helpful tip...
I like using charged dair (ground shockwave) to kill jerry too... but I have to space it properly and make sure top can't come immediately to protect
grounded down tilt kills gizmo car
icy umbra
Do you need any charge to do so?
toxic walrus
Yeah Giz car has something like 3 HP.
drowsy arch
i don't have an answer for jerry paddle
drowsy arch
i've been experimenting with letting tom do paddle and then i try to space perfectly on my nair.... but it's rough cuz he can end paddle early
burnt summit
vast yoke
Man I’m tired of not being ranked 1. Imma find the damn time to play Ranked
Especially since Pauly is up there and we’re even in sets
@tender tiger all love but I’m demoting you from your spot. Today. Probably.
Buff Garnet
tender tiger
Keep dreaming lil bro
vast yoke
😔
tender tiger
In all seriousness, I love to see the competition. May the better garnet win
vast yoke
There’s only like two of you I lose to consistently
drowsy arch
do i give up on going for masters lol
i just got into diamond
but this feels awful to climb
novel copper
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iwfXSKorcH3_6_Ms2/d1337vdRFOgW?invite=c...
Holyyyyyyyyy
novel copper
Down air shockwave is so satisfying to use
that's how I kill Aryas
exotic hemlock
down air shockwave is so hard to hit
crisp bronze
Holyyyyyyyyy
Finn garnet can't hurt you
Finn garnet:
tiny comet
rough mason
Just played like the number 7 T&J and I can say i didn’t enjoy my time
toxic walrus
At least you didn't have to play fox.
I almost took the set from him but man he's so god damn cheesy.
Only fishes for loops.
Almost took a set from the #1 Tom and #1 player overall, feels bad man.
fleet birch
Almost took a set from the #1 Tom and #1 player overall, feels bad man.
Is the loop gone now?
rough mason
Is the loop gone now?
Kinda
tiny comet
That's how good garnet looks like
Nah thats just how light harley is, to be honest
toxic walrus
Is the loop gone now?
kinda, it's a 50/50 now.
but even if you guess right and choose the right option, he can read your dodge and start it over
and it's not hard to do that while charging paddle waiting for the dodge
you either have to jump out of the loop depending on the route or dodge, but if you dodge the jump route, he charges paddle and catches you at the end of the dodge invuln.
and if he guesses you'll jump, he'll catch it with an aerial option
it's a 50/50 that's skewed in tom's favor, because you're still in disadvantage state at the end of the day, regardless of whether you stop the loop or not.
tiny comet
it's a 50/50 that's skewed in tom's favor, because you're still in disadvantage ...
⬅️↖️⬆️↗️➡️
toxic walrus
paddle sux 😦
tiny comet
Indeeds
lapis lynx
Such a crazy move
rough mason
I’m literally playing the game on hard mode with garnet 🤦🏽😂. I just hit hit diamond and I’m playing straight masters
toxic walrus
Real talk, has anyone else noticed sometimes you'll keep the movespeed and armor break on sing even with no stacks?
I thought I was crazy but I've had it happen a few times in matches.
I kept breaking a Jason's armor without stacks.
And I wasn't doing 20 damage in one hit.
You know you have it if you have the movespeed GFX from sing without stacks.
I feel like it happens as you lose a stack as you hit the blastzone.
Just a hunch, but I notice it after spawning most of the time.
tiny comet
Real talk, has anyone else noticed sometimes you'll keep the movespeed and armor...
I have actually, i thought it was actually a bug or i was trippin
lapis lynx
I've had it happen before too
drowsy arch
anyone else have difficulty vs jake?
his new spair is killer
i always get destroyed by jake lately
i can't do anything to prevetn him from juggling me nonstop
drowsy arch
LOL.... have u guys seen the F key emoji?
signal dirge
For all disjoint dairs there should be a chest that the center of mass of the charactwr is below yours before it hits
rough mason
I can’t beat bron or reindog to save my life
signal dirge
LeBron is hard. But surprisingly he has little range. When he's not rapidly approaching you watch his balls instead of him. When he is approaching you try to space him out. Bash also clashes with most things he does
signal dirge
Zoners are so annoying in this game
lapis lynx
Yeah, the zoners are all good
crisp bronze
Zoners are so annoying in this game
Playing against zoners is about one good dodge and fast movement.
If you dodge key projectile you are in a advantage position
signal dirge
I didn't say they were busted. Or unbeatable. Tho some are strong
I said they are annoying
You Don't see a Tom and just sigh?
crisp bronze
Ye
I know
Im just saying what is best way to make them less annoying
signal dirge
Yeah but then you hafta deal with their more annoying tiny projectiles.
crisp bronze
You Don't see a Tom and just sigh?
Tom is exeption.
Tom is mage,assassin,bruiser,zoner
He deals physical damage
Mental damage
And an ghost type
signal dirge
Yeah that's the one that gets me the most annoyed
crisp bronze
I was ok with tom, but recently im playing vs him much more than on last patch
And paddle is a bit too strong
signal dirge
That's one thing that's genuinely worse about 2s.
You can fight Tom marvin
And together things are just flying everywhere
crisp bronze
And together things are just flying everywhere
I would be more scared of marvin/Marvin or Marvin/bugs
signal dirge
Jerry becomes as big as rocket when bubbled
crisp bronze
Wait
You can bubble Jerry?
crisp bronze
AND I DIDNT KNEW IT??????
WHAT THE FCK
Wasn't he an heavy projectile in beta?
Bruuuh
Im 100% sure
He was unblockable in beta
signal dirge
He can't be reflected I think but I think if it's a teamate you can. I saw it earlier today
crisp bronze
Wait
We talking about Marvin bubble or garnet bubble
signal dirge
Marvin
signal dirge
Hahaha no you can't just yoink Jerry lmao
LET US
Superman gets what we get but better. Let us have it
signal dirge
Honestly. Let garnet bubble heavy projectiles. :3
signal dirge
Well the whole point Is that it's a dumb mechanic no one likes
crisp bronze
They are slow projectiles on CD
crisp bronze
I think its good mechanic
Imo
Sing in beta was probably best anty projectile move in the game already
Without this
Just return some frame data
And its s tier move again
signal dirge
Well if you aren't gonna give her the frames just let her auto dodge. If they really don't wanna take that path again
crisp bronze
Tbh
I like her state now
Change sing and i can Play her without changes for long time
She need skill
But she rewarding after nerfing most characters
toxic walrus
Ye
no more buffs besides sing
and maybe a buff to sair 2 connecting
cuz I still have so many issues with it
crisp bronze
- she is one of few characters that you actualy can play in few ways
YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, I WILL SPAM THAT ELBOW
crisp bronze
and maybe a buff to sair 2 connecting
And about sair 2
I adapted and im using tpose in 90% situations instead of sair 2
Or up air
signal dirge
Honestly. Sair 2 being much more consistent would be a godsend
It would make wall garnet so much better
crisp bronze
So
Sing changes
Consistency fixes
And im good with garnet
signal dirge
Yeah I agree. Anything further and you'll start adding no skill stuff
crisp bronze
^
Like
We slowly discover new things
Bcs im more and more sure that whacky reverse combo i was doing on you zel is true when made perfect
It its true
Its borderline stupidly good
tiny comet
lapis lynx
signal dirge
You'll hafta show me how it works again I forgor
tiny comet
Garnet on Garnet crimes 
exotic hemlock
just hit a crazy bubble clip
tiny comet
Masters 4
tiny comet
Killed masters harley with twice in one minute on throne room she gave up after that
tiny comet
wait does that work
Rocket jerry can be bubbled yes but jerry himself cant be bubbled, also nice
crisp bronze
i started playing 2s and black adam/ garnet comp is so good
adam dealing nasty damage
and we have have song buff near entire game
lapis lynx
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009538859417215147/1277121212576956426/M...
Gottem
mild field
Garnet electricity effect forever??
As Garnet, there is a way to move around the map with the electricity effect from 'Spark of Love' while still dealing extra damage and gaining Rhythm if using the Electric Groove perk, without needing to stay in the Spark of Love area. I’ve managed to make it work when I stand in the Spark of Love zone, perform the down special, and then follow it up with a clap, but I can’t figure out how to consistently replicate this tech. Well atleast that is what it feels like I do
exotic hemlock
is there supposed to be a dodge window at the end of jab 1? i try to jab and then shoulder tackle but they always dodge out of the shoulder tackle
signal dirge
Let garnet hold neutral punch longer. There's no reason samurai jack should be able to hold side special longer than punch
Also Velma is not bottom tier anymore
mild field
is there supposed to be a dodge window at the end of jab 1? i try to jab and the...
It really depends on their health and recovery times tbh. It’s a hit or miss move in my opinion because it doesn’t have much range in general. I usually use the tackle move to mix up the regular side air, which lets you carry them across the map
crisp bronze
**`Garnet electricity effect forever??`**
As Garnet, there is a way to move aro...
bro
you know clap is elecrtyfying move itself
right?
mild field
you know clap is elecrtyfying move itself
No I mean the spark hands when they are yellow, you can walk around without the bomb
crisp bronze
i mean
its exacly what this doing
it puts electric debuff on enamy
and clap already doing it
signal dirge
I think dtilt is also eletric
mild field
and clap already doing it
I mean every hit will aply electricity when you have the sparked hands
signal dirge
That's dumb. It's literally electic
crisp bronze
I mean every hit will aply electricity when you have the sparked hands
hmmm. i mean
you get like 6 more damage with this tech tho
crisp bronze
That's dumb. It's literally electic
yep
the moves i spotted with this efect are
spark and moves on spark
clap
mild field
hmmm. i mean
you get like 6 more damage with this tech tho
The perk rhythem is pretty good agaist armour characters
crisp bronze
and tpose
signal dirge
It is just tested it
crisp bronze
The perk rhythem is pretty good agaist armour characters
for me its too rng to actualy use it
signal dirge
It's only like a tick.
signal dirge
Idk I charge it usually since the range is good in 2s
crisp bronze
i was playing with adam today
with groove perk
and when TWO people are abusing electricicty
then its worth to use
especialy when adam runs that perk where he deals more damage when enamy is electryfied
funny comp
signal dirge
Honestly even 2 stacks of rythym feels like nothing besides visual effects
Besides fighting superman
crisp bronze
bro did not seen adam on perma speed boost
- with amount of ww and stevens on 2s
its kinda good to have this armor break
mild field
its kinda good to have this armor break
Indeed plus the speed boost on top of the perk is good
crisp bronze
Indeed plus the speed boost on top of the perk is good
ye
but without adam i will probably run 5%
bcs stacks from grove are so rare
same for 1s
mild field
bcs stacks from grove are so rare
In that case just sing for 1.8 seconds for full stacks and every now and then just tap the neutral special to restart the timer for rhythm loss
crisp bronze
In that case just sing for 1.8 seconds for full stacks and every now and then ju...
if start up and end lag was not so long
then ok
but its too hard to witstand it
mild field
I run games with armour break all match
crisp bronze
rn
mild field
but its too hard to witstand it
I feel you, you just have to hope your tm8 is with the shiz
crisp bronze
Even with good teammate
Good player with mobile character will always find opener from your sing
mild field
Good player with mobile character will always find opener from your sing
Perfect then switch it up and start using that electricity
or start hitting that star wall bounce cheese
crisp bronze
Or just fck the song and buff? And brawl them to death instead?
crisp bronze
or start hitting that star wall bounce cheese
If enamy di right way you can't do it
mild field
If enamy di right way you can't do it
I do it when they are already beat up
crisp bronze
Still
If they di up or down you have 50% on read
mild field
Still
If they di up or down you have 50% on read
Still 50% is 50%
crisp bronze
Cheasing on garnet is not the best thing tbh
After this patch she is viable on her own
signal dirge
I like wall bounce cheese
crisp bronze
How many times you killed me with it when we played 16 matches?
Z E R O
Bcs i know how to di
Xd
I dont want to be destroyer of the party
But imo its just not worth doing it
signal dirge
And so did i
Once one or two hit
10000x more fun than just seeing the victory screen
Why don't you just buy a bunch of flash cards that just say you win
Sounds like that's all you want
fluid trail
this character thread has the second most messages out of all the character threads
second only to jason
lapis lynx
Nice
rough mason
Ever since I hit diamond on garnet life been hard I swear 😂
lapis lynx
Diamond is tough for sure
crisp bronze
Ever since I hit diamond on garnet life been hard I swear 😂
ye
now you play vs players s who actualy sweat
and are decent at the game
rough mason
and are decent at the game
Yea and it also don’t help I’m playing garnet. I love the character but man she feels weaker them the rest of the cast
crisp bronze
Yea and it also don’t help I’m playing garnet. I love the character but man she ...
nah nah nah naah
she is in good state now
in last patch you could make excuses
now you cant
rough mason
nah nah nah naah
she is in good state now
I mean eh her neutral air got better but if you whiff it you’re combo food
crisp bronze
I mean eh her neutral air got better but if you whiff it you’re combo food
bro
lets just play
i want to see
how are you playing
crisp bronze
I mean eh her neutral air got better but if you whiff it you’re combo food
and
its not even about her buffs
but nerfs on half of the cast
and system changes that favors garnet
rough mason
bro
lets just play
I’m down to play for sure but I’m at work right now so it wouldn’t be till later tonight
crisp bronze
I’m down to play for sure but I’m at work right now so it wouldn’t be till later...
ping me when you on game then
rough mason
ping me when you on game then
I feel like I’ve played before but I don’t know
In ranked
I know you’re a top garnet on the leaderboards but the name seems familiar
crisp bronze
I know you’re a top garnet on the leaderboards but the name seems familiar
you na or eu
?
rough mason
you na or eu
Wym?
rough mason
you from North America or Europe
Ohhh North America
crisp bronze
Ohhh North America
so we probably didnt play then
bcs im eu
rough mason
so we probably didnt play then
bcs im eu
Oh okay that makes sense but I’ll ping you when get back on the game
crisp bronze
Oh okay that makes sense but I’ll ping you when get back on the game
oke
signal dirge
Fross is like a savant with this character and was beating people in tournament prepatch and then talks about tiers like he isn't the exception
The game isn't just for gma
Gms
It's for every player on ranked. And should be balanced as such
rough mason
Fross is like a savant with this character and was beating people in tournament ...
Trust me I know he’s the outlier When it comes to garnet but I be out there struggling 😂😂😂
crisp bronze
Fross is like a savant with this character and was beating people in tournament ...
im not ONLY exception
pauly, jb,santy and jhonson playing at my level or even better
signal dirge
Aqua is up there too ik. But judging the state of the game by the top 1% is terrible
crisp bronze
top 1% is real messure how good is character
signal dirge
Tas would be that measurememt
crisp bronze
if someone can play it at highest level without complexes to other characters then character is at least good
signal dirge
But if the character requires 10x the counter play to the other. It's unfun
It kills the game
This game should be balanced around like diamond 5
If the ranks were even functional
crisp bronze
taz is a+
but its just hard match up for garnet
signal dirge
I meant like a theory best. Taz
Tas
But if one charactwr needs 18 aps to counter one imput
crisp bronze
still
garnet is hard bcs you have very little people to teach you how to play her properly
signal dirge
It's also unbalanced.
signal dirge
I mean. Despite me losing to anyone competent. Im in the top leagues. Garnet isn't weak she's just hard because she has alot of pain points
crisp bronze
these things are just not avilable to most people
bcs there are few to non sources from where you can learn her
crisp bronze
I mean. Despite me losing to anyone competent. Im in the top leagues. Garnet i...
she is combo food with bad dodge
thats her problem
reward for this is HUGE damage, vercitile kit and being heavy
signal dirge
Well how much should you have to learn and grow inorder to have an opinion. Should only the best players get to have fun w the game?
Like. Taz and Tom are just not healthy in their states
And you can outplay them
signal dirge
Marvin is playable. But to 99% of players that down beam and up projectile is hell
rough mason
these things are just not avilable to most people
bcs there are few to non sourc...
That’s also true I been out there winging it
crisp bronze
Marvin is playable. But to 99% of players that down beam and up projectile is h...
ye
but marvin doesnt have much more than this
like
in league these kind of characters ar called noob stompers
these are realy easy to play characters that works very well on lower elo
but higher you get, the more drawbacks you see
you just have celing that prevents you to play on common ground with other characters
signal dirge
There should be no. Noob stompers. Maybe slightly stronger characters in low elo but nothing that over 50% of players get stomped by
And high skill ceiling characters should be allowed to thrive
crisp bronze
yes
garnet is kind of high ceiling character
she have more moves to learn than most characters + she have drawbacks that can be exploited
signal dirge
To the average player tho things should feel relatively even. And yeah garnets high. Ig is low
crisp bronze
nah
ig rn is not
he need some brain to play good
every move need to be well tought, bcs if you waste your "combo breaker" you in HUGE disadvantage
and you can be comboed almost infinitly
rough mason
every move need to be well tought, bcs if you waste your "combo breaker" you in ...
Wym by combo breaker
What is that 😂
rough mason
I thought you was talking about garnet
signal dirge
Garnet will be busted when parrying gets more common is my prediction
If the game becomes fish for a parry she's gonna kill in like 3 interactions
But for 90% of players that doesn't mean anything
crisp bronze
parry will never be broken
bcs you always can bait for parry
you always can miss on purpose
signal dirge
Parry won't be broken but the tool might affect some more than others.
crisp bronze
you always have options
bcs window for parry is like 1-3 frames
i dont know for sure
signal dirge
Characters that need to get close and close distance get a new tool. And characters that set up quick but often can't find time will succeed. Trust me
Tho the stun time being so long really let's anyone succeed hard
crisp bronze
i dont think parry will be much stronger than its now
bcs its just hard and risky to pull off
obvious moves will be parried, but nothing more than this
signal dirge
It just depends how far the game gets optimized. Reading will become more common in general. Unless your at the top players I see no one reading dodges and following rn
That's like mid elo smash ultimate
Combine better reads with ability to parry and better execution on punish
I doubt it'll be nothing
crisp bronze
It just depends how far the game gets optimized. Reading will become more common...
brawlhalla was in same state and only top 5% (diam+) was actualy reading and using dodge good
you overestimating parry
signal dirge
Im not saying a d tier will be a tier
crisp bronze
in a lot of cases its much better to just dodge
lapis lynx
he need some brain to play good
IG has got to be one of the most poorly designed characters
signal dirge
I'm saying that the mechanic will be more beneficial to some characters and it might affect placement
Also garnet has a bad dodge. With certain moves it's pretty equal. The upwards bat moves in particular
crisp bronze
IG has got to be one of the most poorly designed characters
still
after nerfs he need some brain to play