#Garnet

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crisp bronze
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abuse it

fluid trail
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what if the superman isnt stupid and doesnt burn meter unless hes mid combo which you cant di or escape from?

crisp bronze
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armor uses meter

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he dash jumping a lot

loud light
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Why did I agree to this

crisp bronze
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cancels a lot

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and he still need to dodge

fluid trail
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no he wont lol

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you havent been playing any good superman players if you unironically think that

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dodge and armor spammers are easy to beat but players that actually know how to manage meter are impossible

loud light
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Ggs

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That’s the closest I’ve ever gotten

crisp bronze
loud light
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Idk what I even did there either

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Entered the avatar state and still lost 😔

crisp bronze
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tbg i underestimated you

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time to shift gear

tiny comet
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2nd clips video comin soon

loud light
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Holy

crisp bronze
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there is no escape from mommy garnet

loud light
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Which way do I DI

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I tried every single DI I’m getting cooked 😭

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Are you even able to DI that??

crisp bronze
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depends what you want to di out of

loud light
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The side air shoulder ram

crisp bronze
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i thing out of or down

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are best

loud light
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It feels like an infinite or something

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I tried up down left and right

crisp bronze
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its not

loud light
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Is it like angled?

crisp bronze
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you have tight window to dodge between that fast fist and elbow

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but if i time right elbow into fast fist

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its true

loud light
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Oof

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Sleeper character

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Trust

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Oof

crisp bronze
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burnout meter

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is death sentence

loud light
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Yeah

crisp bronze
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vs good garnet

crisp bronze
loud light
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I can’t even fight back 😔

crisp bronze
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im just that good

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but she is a bit better than everyone thing

loud light
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Noooo

crisp bronze
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oof

loud light
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Ggs lol

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That was the most I’ve ever cooked

crisp bronze
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garnet not dying

loud light
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Heavyweight power

crisp bronze
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ye

loud light
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This is lowkey fun tho

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Learning the matchup

tiny comet
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Its up

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😏

loud light
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Rip

crisp bronze
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hmm

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mayby i should leave even less place to breath

loud light
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😶

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Dawg I just learned the matchup 😭

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GOOD GRIEF

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WTF

crisp bronze
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shift gear is real

loud light
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I’m done for

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I’m actually cooked

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Tony save me for the love of Black Adam down air

crisp bronze
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garnet one of the slowest characters in the game

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or something

tiny comet
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Most neutral at least

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Fross in the zone

loud light
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😶

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They’re making me fight an X-men dawg

crisp bronze
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ye
nobody can tell me garnet dont have damage

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when t pose dealing 19

loud light
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I’m fighting the crimson chin

tiny comet
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Neutral punch 24

loud light
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This dude is a godsend

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I’m not even mad

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I’m just flabbergasted

crisp bronze
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im just using garnet how she should be used

loud light
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I’m outta steam dawg

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Ok one more

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I think I have a headache 😔

crisp bronze
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oke

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d tier powaaaah

loud light
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Bro boutta make me quit the game again

loud light
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Alr

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Ggs

tiny comet
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Lol

crisp bronze
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ggs ^^

loud light
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MF

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I HAVE A 0% WIN RATE

tiny comet
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😂

loud light
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😔

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I’m never accepting 1v1s again dawg

tiny comet
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Damns

loud light
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That’s a lie I will

crisp bronze
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garnet go zooooooooooooooooooooooom

loud light
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lol

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I always get mad and then I’m fine in like 2 minutes

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I’m not mad btw

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Just very surprised

crisp bronze
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i cant wait for buffs aiming for the rest of the garnet players

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so i will abuse her even more

loud light
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Good luck with garnet

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I’m gonna go back to the horrors of not playing this game

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For the rest of the day

tiny comet
crisp bronze
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haha

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anyway

loud light
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Also skittles what is it

crisp bronze
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thx for game ^^

tiny comet
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FrossBullyTea

loud light
crisp bronze
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naaaah
im not bulling

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mayby a little

loud light
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Why did you even ask me to play 😭

crisp bronze
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i like to play 1v1s

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thats all

loud light
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Top 250 Finn for a week doesn’t mean anything

crisp bronze
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and im tired of rankeds

loud light
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What is this a Mr.Beast video?

crisp bronze
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naah

loud light
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I’m calling you Mr.Fross from now on

fluid trail
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@crisp bronze i would love to see a video of you fighting a superman there has to be something im not seeing if you think this is an even matchup

tiny comet
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Do you use armor killer Fel?

neat igloo
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i would really like to see more garnets in 2s leaberboard

crisp bronze
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so mayby later

tiny comet
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Cant trust these randoms

neat igloo
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hope you get it soon i need somebody to grind with

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like 2 active garnets in 2s

tiny comet
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Lol

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Thats depressing asf

neat igloo
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and one of them is a cheater

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thats worse

tiny comet
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Damns

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Cheating with garnet (Shame Shame)

neat igloo
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cheating stats atleast

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ove 20k wins but only has 1300 mmr from beta

tiny comet
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😂

crisp bronze
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ok

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guys

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fast fall up air is a thing

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it covers so much space for some reasons

tiny comet
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Duh

crisp bronze
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💀

tiny comet
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Old news

crisp bronze
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ye
but i didnt spot it before

tiny comet
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Up air has the fastest recovery on hit and miss

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Unlike air up special 😒

signal dirge
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I do that to avoid whiff punish if I dint get hit one and to be grounded to jump into hit 2

fluid trail
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idk what it is but im gaining 5 rp from wins and losing 12 from losses anyone else having this problem rn?

loud light
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It’s the Garnet curse

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I dunno

tiny comet
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I havent played since reaching diamond

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Might do 2s

fluid trail
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im getting way harder matches and getting punished insanely hard for losing

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not a fun experience

tiny comet
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Average garnet experience

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1s be so boring at times

lapis lynx
tiny comet
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I gotta do all the chasing most of the time

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As garnet

lapis lynx
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Yeah, garnet can't do anything about camping

tiny comet
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🗿🪨

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But when i have the stock lead i still gotta chase

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Dont make sense

lapis lynx
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A lot of characters can be hard to approach too

tiny comet
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😒 morty

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😒 gizmo

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😒 agent smith

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😒 t&j

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Beatable but not a fun gameplay experience

lapis lynx
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The steven matchup is also horrific

tiny comet
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Tubby

lapis lynx
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Steven Sair is better than garnet's entire kit

tiny comet
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I can beat steven on any map but i’ll always lose on dexter lab

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Clap dont be killing on that map like other maps

fluid trail
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literally nothing garnet can do against that

lapis lynx
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Yep

tiny comet
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Either air up special or neutral attack

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Shizz annoying

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Gizmo if i get a lead i gotta just not crumble

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And avoid up air and umbrella at all times

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Ima check something about the popcorn

signal dirge
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Bro

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WHAT IS THAT

tiny comet
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Naaaaaaaaa

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Thats crazy

signal dirge
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Also I'm not like up air either

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That was a shoulder bash to wall

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My garnets just nerfed

tiny comet
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Want me to punch them

signal dirge
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I was gonna grind a rank but after that I'm just malding

tiny comet
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Crazy jack can be like that sometimes

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Randomly just pulls out a wildcard

tiny comet
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Shockingly protective momentum does not work vs exploding popcorn which is wild

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Nor does protective momentum not work for gizmo down attack which spreads projectile to his front and back says dodged but you still get hit

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But works on his neutral special (useless) and neutral attack so long as there’s no popcorn involved

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Wild asf info

signal dirge
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Jake feels strong now btw

tiny comet
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Jake or jack?

signal dirge
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Jack feels strong. But Jake feels strong compared to before season 2

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Up special to the up mace feels surprisingly true even tho I think it's di able

tiny comet
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I have no opinion on jake

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Just velma its a random encounter so it rarely happens

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Grinding 2s

frozen iris
signal dirge
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No dodge meter so we know it's not a dodge thing

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Apparently you just hold triangle

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But I can't test thay

tiny comet
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Dodge this

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2s ranked is cheeks

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Every other game desyncs

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😂

signal dirge
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I haven't had that

frozen iris
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My first (and only) solo 2s game. I had a Rick jump to the top of Dexter's Lab and spam his weak projectile. While I 2v1s a Harley and Jack.

tiny comet
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2v1 or 1v2?

frozen iris
tiny comet
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Gotcha

frozen iris
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I almost got it 3 to 4. You can kill off the side so early on dexter lab, so I went for sair upsepcial and shoulder cheese.

tiny comet
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7 desyncs

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Ridic

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Most on the mojojo map

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8 desyncs

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And you guessed it

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Mojojojo map taking a break f this

crisp bronze
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Ok
And now im playing only 2s and customs

tiny comet
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In silver 3 top 300

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Sad asf

crisp bronze
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Ranked journey ended

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Master 1 reached

frozen iris
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Does the game actually save your peak rank? Because it says peak, but can flux with derank.

signal dirge
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Bro did the season in a weak

crisp bronze
exotic hemlock
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whats it gonna take to make garnet star a trap that sticks on enemies?

novel copper
crisp bronze
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Last game won was vs gizmo

novel copper
crisp bronze
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So
Im in good shape
Now i need tourneys to Play in

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But its hard for it in eu

exotic hemlock
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y’all got any tips for ranked garnet

crisp bronze
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Depends what tips you need

tiny comet
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Punch em into the dirt

signal dirge
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Fross I may not agree w your balance takes but you're cool fr

tiny comet
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Neutral punch jack side special

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Even the enhanced version

signal dirge
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Jack needs whiff frames on that thing

tiny comet
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Nah just dodge above or below him

signal dirge
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I swear they don't even play to hit it anymore. Just do it 7 times infront of you

tiny comet
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Then punish

signal dirge
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Then he'll fair me from 3 miles

tiny comet
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Trust in jerry

crisp bronze
tiny comet
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Projectiles stuff side air sp too

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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He's top 1 garnet. I wonder if there's a bias

exotic hemlock
crisp bronze
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Up special
Nlight
Side air 2
Up air
Up air special

exotic hemlock
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yay

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up special twice

lapis lynx
signal dirge
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Clap

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Also if they get to like 150 up jab and uptilt kill

crisp bronze
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Up special kills early
Nlight is hard to hit, but can kill at 50 full charged

Rest kills around 100-140 if you are not right next to blast zone

signal dirge
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And shoulder bash at like 160

tiny comet
exotic hemlock
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i prolly sound dumb but what’s nlight?

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like not charged neutral?

crisp bronze
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Shielded punch

lapis lynx
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The punch

exotic hemlock
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ooo okay

signal dirge
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Garnet is really simple. You learn alot really quick. Then you learn her approach and disadvantage really slow

exotic hemlock
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i need a garnet streamer

lapis lynx
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Garnet is the fundies character

exotic hemlock
lapis lynx
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Disadvantage is pretty rough for her, she's combo food

tiny comet
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Hit em with the jerry_fist

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Fross go bully him

lapis lynx
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I need to use punch more

frozen iris
exotic hemlock
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where does he stream?

frozen iris
exotic hemlock
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oh okay found him

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i couldn’t find him for some reason

signal dirge
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The garnet discord is so good

novel copper
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@strange radish 👀

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gg's garnet_excited

novel copper
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Back to back Aryas pushing me back out of Diamond IV

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love to see it

tiny comet
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F

frozen iris
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Anyone else see the Blue Diamond Ringout in the pass? I'm definitely using that over Obsidian next.

novel copper
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I'm gonna use it with the circuit skin, I think it suits it

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either that or Here Comes a Thought

signal dirge
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Steven's lion plays the jingle man

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The audio is just crisp and satisfying

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If they did the same for here comes a thought I'd use that tho

tiny comet
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So long as jack isnt moaning in my ears

fleet birch
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why is batman so annoying

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its like he plays himself

signal dirge
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He just has absurd hitboxes

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Like his up special is crazy

fleet birch
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yes i know

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Its crazy

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I hate it

signal dirge
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It's one of those moves no one says is busted but we all know it is

fleet birch
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thats how I feel about harley too

signal dirge
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Also he can dodge out of anything commital

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That's how I feel about tom

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He's supposed to be this zoner

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But his jab is like 6 hits with hitboxes bigger than finn up tilt

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His dair his so far below ledge

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And hit racket is a reflector

fleet birch
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all his moves are like a better garnet

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its so annoying

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up special is literally a semi truck

signal dirge
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Garnet still feels really good to me it's just everyone else feels cheesy

fleet birch
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Her punch being so high up suck tho

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like batman kinda sucks his hitbox in and lunges

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garnet just stand straight and punches and it never lands

tiny comet
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Ima create some sauce in the lab

tiny comet
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That and dive kick is crazy intimidating and can be cancelled even without stamina

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I got a combo 😏

signal dirge
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The combo between the two. Insane punishing hitboxes and exetreme safety let's him be tappy untill it's time to kill at 80

fleet birch
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click anything itll combo

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I mean consider his batarang just follows him and applies the explosive thing and garnets gotta control the gauntlet for a measly like 9 dmg

fluid trail
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theres pretty much nothing more satisfying than killing a taz out of nado with a perfectly spaced sair 2

tiny comet
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jerry_fist more satisfying

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Heavily Biased

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Think i found a frame trap o.o

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Damn dive kick is menance to society

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Cancel or dont you will die

fluid trail
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batman dive kick is almost as bad and brain dead as tax nado

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batman mains get away with spamming it basically for free half the time

tiny comet
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Top 3

fluid trail
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hes def not top 3 because you can camp him (with difficulty albeit) but hes close

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maybe top 5

tiny comet
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Nah nah

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I meant top 3 annoying moves

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My bad

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Or at least top 10

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Arya dodge attack and harley sair attack

fluid trail
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harley sair is not that bad

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replace it with taz nado

tiny comet
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Maybe Batman

fleet birch
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who is like top 5 in the game?

tiny comet
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Marvin dair and lebron down special on ledges in the top 10 for sure

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Garnet, followed by garnet, followed by garnet, followed by garnet, last to no ones surprise garnet

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In no order arya t&j batman steven wonder woman

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ww can easily take t&j spot

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So can a few others

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Gap isnt that far for some imo

fleet birch
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steven doesnt feel that strong tbh

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Like hes got good moves in general

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But when i play him

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might just be skill issue

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He doesnt kill well

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his moves are sometimes jank

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and he just doesnt really have a specialty

tiny comet
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Oh i forgot gizmo

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Depending on the match up to be fair for steven

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Chubby boyo

exotic hemlock
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and I mean the bubble not the shield shield

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where the garnet discord at

tiny comet
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Rip

fleet birch
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But like even with that it takes long to startup now

exotic hemlock
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yeah the startup is bad but it’s still somewhat usable

fleet birch
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Yea but compared to say wonderwoman the shields useless

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even his up attacks

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they dont feel all that op

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Joker who is already strong can kill super fast with his up attacks

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balloon kills at like 60

tiny comet
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Joker combo can be obnoxious but hes not as strong as he was

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Still great tho

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Also true

fluid trail
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joker true comboed me to death at 20 off of jab because of one di read mid combo

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the character is ridiculous

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you get hit once in neutral you either take 40+ or just outright die

fleet birch
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So idk how hes supposed to be top 5

fluid trail
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steven is broken for other reasons

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hes just good at locking down the stage in neutral

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its not hard for him to rack up damage outside of combos because his neutral game is so good

fleet birch
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yea but one wrong attack and you get put into a big combo

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I mean its completely possible that im just really bad with him

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but ive just never seen like what makes him op

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At least on the same level as like arya

fluid trail
fleet birch
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Is his stage control like top 5 most broken worthy though?

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I feel like its more like

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Arya WW Finn T&J and morty

fluid trail
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yes it is

fleet birch
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yes steven is or my list?

fluid trail
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steven is top 5

fleet birch
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Really

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I need to find a good steven then

fleet birch
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or did u already wait lemme check

tiny comet
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Steven sair need to be stopped

fleet birch
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Like its strong but other characters got even better stuff

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bugs up air and harleys

tiny comet
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Naaaaa

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It kills

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It reflect projectiles

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Might as well be be gizmo umbrella

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With no end lag

fleet birch
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yea

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But even that umbrella is more op

fluid trail
fleet birch
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Do u play a lot of steven?

fluid trail
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i play against lots of stevens

tiny comet
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Ig 😒

fleet birch
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if not no worries

fluid trail
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not atm its 12:41 my time zone

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past midnight

fleet birch
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we in the same time zone

fleet birch
tiny comet
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I ragdoll that giant man

fleet birch
tiny comet
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He weight and thorns alone is why hes so high

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But ima punch him into the dirt

fleet birch
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I cant punch them into the dirt because the height difference

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in all seriousness tho

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Why is garnets jab in air so high up

tiny comet
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Air juggle them

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Its what i do

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Im not afraid to be uncomfortable

fleet birch
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in air

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if theyre barely below

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its super awkward

tiny comet
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I’ll send you my pov vs giant

fleet birch
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sure

tiny comet
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When i find a moment

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Damn i deleted the other one

tiny comet
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Thoughts questions concerns?

fleet birch
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Not bad

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Good gameplay overall

tiny comet
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Made it to gold 4 in 2s

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Top 100 is sad

dark quiver
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the garnet climb is so hard

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i keep getting players who are gaming like their next generation depends on their promotion to plat

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yeah, 70% of my games are campers

crisp bronze
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Then play agressive enough to not let them camp

frozen iris
dark quiver
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yeah, i'm actually always playing full aggro, but i think my problem is that i'm not whiff punishing people with the right moves and my spacing is always off when trying to catch them out of a dodge

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my shoulder bash always falls short of range by a tiny margin

crisp bronze
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I know the pain

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With shoulder

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But im slowly learning the range

dark quiver
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would be way easier to catch people if dodge ranges were standard across all chars 🤔

novel copper
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Yeah it's pretty inconsistent

tiny comet
dark quiver
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yeah, and the higher you go, the more jack side special and taz tornado spammers you get

novel copper
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Man, baiting out Finn's dash attack with projectiles is so satisfying

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I think half of them don't know that it isn't armor, just a projectile shield

crisp bronze
crisp bronze
dark quiver
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i didn't say that i lost to it

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taz tornado however.....

crisp bronze
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Ye
Taz players are diffrent breed

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He doesn't even have bad moves

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But tornado ans cloud letting you Play the game without playing the game

dark quiver
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it's like the devs don't play their own game 😭

novel copper
crisp bronze
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No way

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Bro found shiny pokemon

novel copper
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tbf they were also an Arya player, I've fought them before

tiny comet
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Jack eating my fist everytime

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I cook finn players

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They whiff one airup special on top of the map theyre cooked

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Key is to fire a projectile at them into baiting their shield attack

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Then you use down attack as a follow up

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Works most of the time

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They to busy trying to do their bnb they dont adjust

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At all

tiny comet
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I never read last patch notes besides garnets

dark quiver
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@novel copper omg no way 😭

tiny comet
novel copper
dark quiver
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good game garnet_excited

novel copper
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Holy crap, I just parried the seven hells out of this Arya

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...aaand of course, Medal wasn't recording

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smh

tiny comet
novel copper
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Poor Jack tried to side special spam me

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didn't work

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😎

tiny comet
fluid trail
crisp bronze
fluid trail
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not with the music notes!

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the music notes all have hitboxes!

crisp bronze
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you can

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it will not interupt you

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so you will get stacks and some damage

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but you will not get interupted

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on my game to master 1

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i played vs gizmo like this

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he could not set up against me

signal dirge
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I'm on a mission to help the jakes

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I'm gonna try to manually learn the jake tech

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Backwards horse

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Anyone wanna try w me?

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Also i fixed it

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It's a 2s list btw

tiny comet
signal dirge
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That's top tier

tiny comet
signal dirge
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I wanna be one of the "better" garnets

neat igloo
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joined the master club

signal dirge
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I still need to join diamond

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Had alotnof work recently

crisp bronze
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and i stopled playing rankeds

neat igloo
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diamond is a grind to get out of

crisp bronze
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and broke the elden ring
jesus
malenia took me 5 hours

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💀

neat igloo
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i own elden ring and still have not played it

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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Anyone able to test something for me

tiny comet
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Think im fine with diamond

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If i join masters it’ll be in 2s

signal dirge
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Well ima still play and see where I land

tiny comet
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Tired of these aryas

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And mortys

signal dirge
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Oh I'm only a 2s player

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Superior game mode

tiny comet
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Rifts >

signal dirge
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No

tiny comet
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Volleyball golf > 1s and 2s

signal dirge
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Double no

tiny comet
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No cap garnet_excited

signal dirge
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I learned the backwards horse jake tech

tiny comet
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Only tech need to be known

signal dirge
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True

neat igloo
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seen a clip of 2 people pvp fighting and it was like a dragon ball z episode no thank you

crisp bronze
crisp bronze
scenic owl
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dex build?

crisp bronze
lavish berry
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Now that all the jacks know that a single jab gives them a string combo against garnet across the stage, and knocks her off, it's just not even fun anymore. Cuz then they just edge guard and you can't do anything

lapis lynx
#

I'm plat 3 at the moment

lapis lynx
crisp bronze
#

jack vs garnet is even match up

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if you aware of side b and kick

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this match up is almost free

lavish berry
#

Being aware of jab is one thing, being able to counter it is another, which doesn't work

crisp bronze
#

i mean

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if you half stage from jack

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there is like 200% chance he will try to dodge cancel jab

lapis lynx
#

The jacks that are patient and don't just side b are tough to beat

crisp bronze
#

true

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but its still even match up

lavish berry
#

I think he's easy to combo once you get that first hit, you can stream roll them easier than other characters, but he can do the same, and he has better frame data and range with hotboxes by far

crisp bronze
#

like
when you start running over him

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its over

lapis lynx
#

True, his disadvantage is pretty poor

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And his advantage state is manageable, he doesn't have that many crazy combos

crisp bronze
#

yep

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as is said

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he have s+ tier jab
spin is s tier
side b is like a+

Anything else just exist

lapis lynx
#

Much rather fight jacks than arya or finn

crisp bronze
#

arya
yes
finn
finn is not that scary

lapis lynx
#

He is, you can always get comboed and die

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And being able to move and threaten with charge attacks is crazy good

crisp bronze
#
  • he doesnt deal much damage
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he is strong

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but for me he is just like jack

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2 aburd moves
rest is allright

lapis lynx
#

His entire kit is pretty solid

crisp bronze
#

its solid A tier
but he is not arya/morty

lapis lynx
#

I believe he's one of the best ones characters

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That jab alone is absurd

crisp bronze
#

yep
jab is annoying af
but still

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my tier list in order looks something like this
arya
morty
joker
gizmo/finn/ig

loud light
#

“Finn is scary” mf I’m scared of Garnet now

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Fross beat the fear into me 😭

crisp bronze
#

imagine being scared of D tier character

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💀

loud light
#

I am when I get ladder combo’d to death every stock

lapis lynx
#

It's ok, she's very uncommon

loud light
#

“It’s ok, #1 Garnet main can’t hurt you”

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“Dw I’m not even that good”

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“Plus you’re using Finn”

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I feel gaslighted 😔

crisp bronze
#

all acording to plan

fluid trail
#

steven is such an unfair matchup man idk what im supposed to do

crisp bronze
#

is best counter

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to him

fluid trail
#

youll just trade with his shield

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its not disjointed

crisp bronze
#

he need to release shield

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to deal damage

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its not moving hit frame

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if you knock him back before he release it
you will not get damage

crisp bronze
#

you need to be keep aware of projectile reflect

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of the bubble hitbox

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of the melon steven

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and these creatures are evolving

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and started using that strange scateboard shield

lapis lynx
#

That move is wild

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He has really good neutral too, shields are annoying to deal with

loud light
crisp bronze
#

its beta jake skateboard

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they took it from him

lapis lynx
#

Exactly

crisp bronze
#

and gave it to steven

loud light
#

I find it stupid

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Jake skateboard literally never hits now

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But Steven gets like looney tunes priority now

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Bro did not need it

fluid trail
#

i just had the most insane ball snipe into kill of my entire life holy

crisp bronze
#

fat kid ate jake with his skateboard

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xd

fluid trail
#

i didnt clip it because of a bug with obs but i sniped an offstage finn from the opposite side of the stage with fully charged ball, ran up and went deep for the sair kill

crisp bronze
#

always nice thing

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still

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my favorite trick shot with it is the time freeze tech

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when you send it
dash attack and ball interupt the dash attack
enamy get stuned for like 2 seconds

lavish berry
#

So I'm noticing you can do a tech similar to b reversals in smash ult

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I've done it by accident a few times with grounded punches and her jab

tiny comet
#

😎

crisp bronze
#

Stun time scales with w
Damage %
Bcs the stun time is what normaly you would fly

On 60+ im almost sure you can cast entire PUNCH on this stun time

crisp bronze
lavish berry
#

In smash ult you can change direction in the air without expending a resource like a jump, or an air dodge by doing a very precise input that turns you around as you're doing the attack

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In this game I've noticed if I land and input an attack in the opposite direction my momentum is going, I move a short distance in that opposite direction while attacking

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Haven't labbed it, just noticed it happen a few times

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Like, i move in the opposite direction with the same level of momentum it as I was going originally

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I'm trying to replicate it in the lab but I cannot

tiny comet
#

I already have 60-70 damage combo

signal dirge
#

B reverse doesn't change momentum in this game

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Neither does wave bouncing

tiny comet
#

I punch em all into the dirt

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You should try the bait, reset tech

signal dirge
#

What are these techs

tiny comet
#

😂

pearl dust
signal dirge
#

Fross rage baits alot

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But jack ain't to bad

tiny comet
#

Im 13 - 3 vs jack

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In ranked 1s

frozen iris
fluid trail
#

i hate it when i get a roll read and its just slightly too early

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lost me a bo3 garnet ditto in pubs just now :(

frozen iris
signal dirge
#

I lose the garnet ditto so much

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Also gauntlets to protect recovery is garnet 101

lavish berry
#

Decent jacks just dodge the gauntlet and sit just a little behind ledge so they can trap you as you land

novel copper
#

Definitely got a handle on the average Finn matchup now

tiny comet
#

Down attack….

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Neutral punch

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Do it again

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Dead

fleet birch
#

top 5 top 10?

signal dirge
#

Top 5 for me but they could be Top 8 and I wouldn't say no

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Also finn will probably be nerfed despite not being super duper strong

fluid trail
#

no hes strong, just not to garnet

signal dirge
#

Is finn just a menace to everyone not garnet?

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Am I blind to Finns strength?

fluid trail
#

superman matchup is so bad holy

drowsy arch
#

i struggle with superman

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basically struggle against everyone

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what do u guys do against jack?

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his jab range is what kills me... if the jack doesn't whiff side special i'm so screwed it feels

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do any garnets stream?

past pendant
#

I don’t understand why PFG hates garnet

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Like bruh why is she SO SLOWWWW

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I CANT KEEP UP WITH A GOOD JACK

drowsy arch
#

idk what to do vs marvin either

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or joker

tiny comet
#

.<

past pendant
#

Sighs

drowsy arch
#

how u doin snooz

#

i'm depressed playing this char

#

lol

fleet birch
past pendant
#

I’m silver 2 rn

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And the grind is real

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Lost to all my Steven matches by a hair

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due to him BEING FASTER THAN ME

fleet birch
drowsy arch
#

why am i gaining less than 10 and losing mroe than 10

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they r the same rank as me

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i really hate dexter's lab

tiny comet
#

Understandable

novel copper
#

as long as I don't get caught in the ground loop I'm good

#

they like to set up with heat vision but I just tackle them out of it

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gauntlets also work

novel copper
#

unless you're talking about moves coming out faster, in which case, yeah, not much to be done about that

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just gotta read and pray

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😐

fleet birch
past pendant
#

Whenever I get the chance

crisp bronze
#

Bcs yes
Outside sair 1 you doesnt have very fast moves

But at the same time she is one of the more mobile characters in terms of pure movement tools

crisp bronze
#

Elbow and dash attack giving you absurd amount of momentum

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If you on song buff you can chase any character in the game

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Like
It may by that im just good at the game
But cmon guys
She is not THAT terrible

fleet birch
#

But being more casual when I play shes pretty bad

exotic hemlock
#

i keep getting whooped as garnet

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im gonna switch

fleet birch
#

See if he will 1v1 with u tho

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I learned a lot from him

exotic hemlock
#

these twitch streamers made me think i could do it

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but this rank grindr has me thinking any matchup is not a good matchup

crisp bronze
fleet birch
#

Like batman is a superior version of garnet

crisp bronze
exotic hemlock
#

drop the clips of the combos

fleet birch
#

and then learned momentum well

crisp bronze
#

I have miserable neutral
Im terrible on ground

exotic hemlock
crisp bronze
exotic hemlock
#

whyyy

crisp bronze
#

Well...actualy it was an habit bcs i had 8 ram and my pc was burning from obs/medal

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But i upgraded lately...
Well
Mayby i should start

crisp bronze
#

Try to fight in the sky as often as possible

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You are D tier character on ground

exotic hemlock
#

okay

crisp bronze
#

In the air you are A+ tier

exotic hemlock
#

should i use her air neutral at all?

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the little star fish

crisp bronze
#

You mean star
Or that move where she use all her limbs?

exotic hemlock
#

yeah

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where fist and legs have hit box

crisp bronze
#

Its allright move
Its very good defensive move

fleet birch
#

I see a lot of people use it for recovery if they go off stage

crisp bronze
#

I prefer shoulder and up air

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But ye
Its allright as recovery

fleet birch
#

honestly i wish some other character got like garnets gauntlet

#

Its my favorite move in the whole game

crisp bronze
#

Its allright i guess
And preaty fun to use

fleet birch
#

Ok i still dont understand how steven is supposed to be S tier

exotic hemlock
#

do y’all use marker?

fleet birch
wicked tusk
exotic hemlock
#

oh okay so i should use 5%

#

MAN I CANT SEND VIDEOS

fleet birch
#

Wanna do 1v1 we can practice?

exotic hemlock
fleet birch
#

ah ok

exotic hemlock
#

do y’all know what DI stands for

fleet birch
#

directional input

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i believe its with dodges

exotic hemlock
#

oh okay

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that’s the video

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not my clip

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i was wondering if that’s possible or is it hard ingame

fleet birch
#

it always gets stuck or throws them in an inconvenient spot

crisp bronze
exotic hemlock
#

was that an Air instant dash?

crisp bronze
#

After you throw enamy in that wall you insta dashing and pressing sair

#

Its should not be hard to do it

fleet birch
#

Why is there no garnets in top 100

#

but theres a velma

novel copper
#

That wall throw into sair looks tasty though, I'll have to try it.

crisp bronze
fleet birch
#

They gotta be insane with her

novel copper
#

I mean, she does have a van.

crisp bronze
#

Or he just grinded 1000 matches with good mmr

fleet birch
#

nvm shes no longer in top 100

novel copper
#

That's a solid win confirm if I've ever seen it

#

Though the Velma that beat my ass the other day didn't even NEED the van, so there's that...

fleet birch
#

Is her van really that strong??

crisp bronze
#

Just dodge it
After you do you cant be catched in it
Bcs it counts as projectile

fleet birch
#

I find it just jumps off the map

crisp bronze
#

XD

fleet birch
#

literally if i used it 100 games

novel copper
fleet birch
#

99 would be it jumping off map in 2 seconds

crisp bronze
#

Still
If you have time and some skill you will get into top 100 with pure amount of games

novel copper
fleet birch
#

its so hard on keyboard idk why

novel copper
fleet birch
crisp bronze
#

Btw
I discovered that i need to learn to parry in this game
You can full charge the punch on parry time

novel copper
#

Maybe... maybe. 😔

crisp bronze
#

💀💀

novel copper
fleet birch
#

nothing in velmas kit combos at all

novel copper
#

I need to start punishing Jacks and Aryas with that.

#

Almost every Jack and every Arya starts with a roll

crisp bronze
#

Idk if my reflex is slow or what
But im unable to parry her roll in almost every situation

novel copper
crisp bronze
#

Bruh

novel copper
#

Still not enough to get consistent wins though

#

she's just crazy fast

fleet birch
#

How do u guys even parry I find that everyime I go for it their attack goes either fast than usual or its delayed

#

Is it the exact second or do u have a few frames

novel copper
#

Don't react to the roll, react to the instant you see her sword come up

#

Takes practice, but you'll learn to see it

crisp bronze
#

Idk
Im barely parring in this game
The delay of this game is strange and i cant do it properly

#

In brawlhalla i could dodge 1 frame combos or turbo fast start ups
Here im getting hit by fcking Jack neutral

novel copper
#

With Jack it's a little trickier since he can hold the side special, I think

#

and speaking of Jack

fleet birch
novel copper
#

HIS HURTBOX MAKES NO SENSE

crisp bronze
#

Btw
Elbow is one of the hardest move to parry in the game

novel copper
#

and his DODGE window is too long

crisp bronze
#

Bcs depending how you tilt it
You will get to enamy in diffrent time

novel copper
#

Yeah, if you angle it the hitbox lasts longer

crisp bronze
#

So you need to react to elbow
You cant just learn the timing

novel copper
#

often catches people who think they're safe

fleet birch
#

I always end up stopping that move like 1 inch too early and end up getting comboed how do u stop that

crisp bronze
#

For me this kind of attack is dash attack

novel copper
crisp bronze
#

I swear
It have half of garnet leg longer hitbox than it is in reality

fleet birch
#

do u mean like her leg hitbox is longer than it appears?

crisp bronze
#

English is not my main language

Sorry not sorry i'm making mistakes sometimes

#

A lot

fleet birch
#

What is your first language?

crisp bronze
#

Polish

fleet birch
#

Really? thats actually really cool

crisp bronze
#

Useless ahh language outside my country xD
But its preaty fun

fleet birch
#

I mean its a whole seperate culture and something to be proud of

crisp bronze
#

Of course i am

fleet birch
#

Do u have any polish dishes that you really like?

crisp bronze
#

Ye

Pierogi are goated
Best kind of dumplings in the world

fleet birch
#

I was just gonna ask about those

#

Wait I gotta take this question to dms so i dont get in trouble from mods

dark quiver
#

im gonna go insane, these reindog players dont even play reindog 😭

#

they use it as if they're morty

#

on another note, how do you guys approach the superman matchup? he seems to beat out most of my reactions with his jab

crisp bronze
dark quiver
#

tyty

fleet birch
#

Fross who are ur top 3 most hated characters to go against

#

Not like the op ones like arya tho

crisp bronze
#

Arya
Steven
Harley

#

And Marvin honorable in this list
Bcs he is easy to beat
But he just throwing random shitt and i cant approche

fleet birch
#

I struggle to win as him

crisp bronze
#

Mayby its just vs me

#

Steven is best tempo controler in the entire game

#

You should play carefull vs steven and just wait as he throw shield CD, melon Steven ect, ect and punish him for being hamster entire game

#

But im not that good in this kind of game

fleet birch
#

Not often but when im sick of garnet

crisp bronze
#

Steven is just very good against aggression

#

Bcs he have best disengage and control tools in the game

fleet birch
#

I mean he feel decent but not like insane insane

#

His up attacks are good

#

but like batman can autolock onto you and instant punch for a ringout

#

bugs bat

crisp bronze
#

Same for Harley
She is in tier with garnet probably, but she is harsh match up for garnet

fleet birch
fleet birch
#

by at least a tier

crisp bronze
#

She is not

#

She is low B/High C

fleet birch
#

How so?

crisp bronze
#

She is one demencional
She have one thing that she will do over and over and nothing else
Bcs she doesnt have good tools

She is one of the lightest characters in the game so she dying to 2 touches of any character

#

Outside of box glove and tripple kick she doesnt have good moves

#

Mayby up ai

#

R

#

But its not even on par with Bugs, Steven or joker

fleet birch
#

She is one dimensional but still has a solid kit

#

small hitbox large attacks

crisp bronze
#

Joker have large attack
Steven have large attacks

#

She doesnt

#

Add that she is turbo countered by any shield

fleet birch
#

her hammer is massive

#

gets ringouts easy too

crisp bronze
#

Ye
And it have long start up
And before she charge it you can dodge out of it 10 times

#

And for how long she charge it it doesnt have that much killing power

fleet birch
#

its hard to dodge because she spins

#

And charging it up benefits her because she can move in air with it

crisp bronze
#

Dodge out then
Or above

fleet birch
#

usually its used when you are recovering from off map

#

otherwise she uses the spinning multi kick downwards

crisp bronze
#

Still
Its marked
Any move that is marked can't be broken

#

Bcs you have time to think what to do

fleet birch
#

and her up bat is super fast and kills well

#

and the up gun thing

crisp bronze
#

As i said
She is annoying
And have few thing going on for her

#

But she is nowhere near things like batman

#

Finn

#

Jack

fleet birch
#

We may not agree but I just think that shes a tier better than garnet a tier below finn

crisp bronze
#

Well
If you think so

#

I think she is in the same tier as garnet
But a bit higher in it

fleet birch
#

Shes just got more going for her than garnet

crisp bronze
#

She is not

fleet birch
#

especially since if you can get them somewhat high in the air its a ringout

crisp bronze
#

Tbh
I think garnets up air is better than Harley up air

#

Bcs its as fast as her

#

And its 2 part

fleet birch
crisp bronze
#

And 2 part air moves are much better

crisp bronze
#

From jab - jab 2 up or clap
From sair - up air

#

Elbow sending them in the air too

fleet birch
#

I still find that harley has an easier job sending you into the air

#

and her bat attack is massive very fast and has a slight delay which makes it really difficult to dodge

crisp bronze
#

Go to lab
And test both moves
Garnet up air and especialy up light are turbo fast

#

And both reach higher

fleet birch
#

I already did

#

I still feel like harleys is a lot better

crisp bronze
#

Idk
Tested it to after i lose to one Harley not long ago
And i feel like they are similar

#

And i dodge every harley up air that is not a combo

fleet birch
#

I mean theyre both good moves

#

But the way harleys bat moves

#

idk what it is

crisp bronze
#

With garnet its not that easy, bcs its 2 part

fleet birch
#

its like so fast and large hitbox

crisp bronze
#

As i said
Its strong move
But i prefer to have 2 part over being 3 frames faster

fleet birch
crisp bronze
#

Ye
And i think being 2 part makes is stronger move than Harley

#

Why do you think gizmo up air is so busted

#

Bcs its 2 hit

fleet birch
#

Yea

#

I mean in different situations they have their strengths